Romney brags that yes, he sent hecklers
Obama strategist David Axelrod, appearing at a rally in Boston this week, was confronted by an organized group of hecklers who disrupted the event and turned it into a shouting match. Axelrod and others immediately accused the Mitt Romney campaign of organizing and orchestrating the disruption using paid Romney staffers.
That seemed unlikely. At least, it seemed unlikely until Romney admitted it:
“Most of the events I go to, or many of the events I go to, there are large groups of, if you will, Obama supporters there heckling me,” Romney told the press. “And at some point you say, ‘You know what, sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.’ If they’re going to be heckling us, why we’re not going to sit back and play by very different rules. If the president is going to have his people coming to my rallies, and heckling, why, we’ll show them that, you know, we conservatives have the same kind of capacity he does.”
Asked for evidence that the Obama campaign is sending hecklers to Romney events, Romney staffers identified an incident at a New York City firehouse in which a press conference with former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani was interrupted by heckling.
That incident in New York was indeed regrettable.
However, the sole rude and vulgar heckler turned out to be an Occupy Wall Street activist who had heard about the event and hustled over to interrupt it. What she did was way out of line, but there is no evidence whatsoever tying her to the Obama campaign or organization.
(BTW, the whole Occupy tactic of interrupting events and trying to shout down opponents is undemocratic and uncivil and harms the credibility of its cause. It’s a tactic of those unable or unwilling to debate.)
Now, if the Romney campaign has evidence that the woman in New York was following instructions from the Obama camp, or if it has evidence of an orchestrated effort by Obama supporters and campaign staff in other efforts, let’s see it. Such tactics by either side should not be tolerated .
But by sending paid operatives to disrupt the Axelrod event, and by bragging about it afterward, Romney is setting a dangerously confrontational tone, and he’s doing it from the very top.
This is barely June, people. We have a long way to go, and a country to run once it’s over.
– Jay Bookman
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Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 1st, 2012
5:14 pm
Under the 2001 recession unemployment top out at 6.3%. We now have had 44 straight weeks of unemployment above 6.3%.
Comparing apples and watermelons.
Talk about defying logic and reason.
Moderate Line
June 1st, 2012
5:21 pm
Jay
June 1st, 2012
3:45 pm
Jay
June 1st, 2012
3:45 pm
As a matter of fact, it is NOT. In terms of jobs, for example, the recovery from this recession is stronger than that under Bush. Take a look: http://www.minneapolisfed.org/publications_papers/studies/recession_perspective
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Using the website Jay provided a link to it took 47 months to recover to the previous peak. But yet we are still not to the peak after the 2007 recession.
Gm
June 1st, 2012
5:25 pm
Recon 0311 2533
Bush gets a seven?
4500 American troops died in Iraq, 3500 Americans died in 911 because of his security team, banks collaps, housing collaps, auto collaps, wall street collaps.
Amazing how the right has memory laps on this man, Bush can not even travel outside of the US because he would be captured for war crimes.
Moderate Line
June 1st, 2012
5:27 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 1st, 2012
5:14 pm
Under the 2001 recession unemployment top out at 6.3%. We now have had 44 straight weeks of unemployment above 6.3%.
Comparing apples and watermelons.
Talk about defying logic and reason.
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I agree with you. I did not make the comparison. Jay did. I just point out the facts.
Joe Hussein Mama
June 1st, 2012
5:28 pm
Moderate Line — “Talk about defying logic and reason.”
Sorry, nothing doing. If you look at the monthly job numbers for both Presidents, you will see that job losses for Obama were worse than job losses under Bush at the start of both their terms.
And you will also see that:
Obama had a positive month earlier in his term than Bush did
Obama had a net positive month (over 150K jobs added in a single month) earlier in his term than Bush did
Obama has had a greater percentage of positive and net positive months at this point in his term than Bush had by this point in his first term
This ought to keep you busy over the weekend.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.toc.htm
JamVet
June 1st, 2012
5:29 pm
George Walker Bush a 7???!!!
Huge uproarious laugh!!!
Maybe a 1.7…
Moderate Line
June 1st, 2012
5:30 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 1st, 2012
5:14 pm
Under the 2001 recession unemployment top out at 6.3%. We now have had 44 straight weeks of unemployment above 6.3%.
Comparing apples and watermelons.
Talk about defying logic and reason.
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In fact that was my entire point. Unemployment was in the range of what many would consider full employment so comparing the two recessions in terms of employment recovery is pointless.
Gm
June 1st, 2012
5:32 pm
Maybe the right nut jobs can answer this along with scum Sean Hannity, if Bush was so great why dont Willard appear with him in any photos? Obama and Clinton wil be appearing togather, oh I forgot, the right wants to pull up their dead god Reagan who held office back in the 80’s .
They BOTH suck
June 1st, 2012
5:35 pm
“Yeah, I’m going to try to get some riding in, but I have a date Sat and may be too sore to ride Sun”
Well don’t take it for too long…………. You might not be able to walk
Have a great weekend
Thulsa Doom
June 1st, 2012
5:39 pm
“I’d say it’s the same as the statute of limitations for lauding Reagan”
Yep. And while we’re at it we might as well put a statute of limitations on lauding Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, etc. We can start by tearing down the Lincoln memorial in DC as well as the Washington monument.
Nothing like demonstrating liberal absurdity with more absurdity.
Joe Hussein Mama
June 1st, 2012
5:45 pm
Doom — “Nothing like demonstrating liberal absurdity with more absurdity.”
Logic FAIL.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_ridiculum
Once again, Doom uses straw men to say things others didn’t say, then crows about his victory. Congratulations on disproving something no one said, Doom!
I’m out; enjoy your weekend. And drive safely; the kids are out of school and you know they aren’t paying attention to the road.
Thulsa Doom
June 1st, 2012
5:45 pm
Obama has better job numbers than W?
And yet unemployment remains at 8.2% 3 1/2 years into his tenure.
Can’t put lipstick on this pig of an economy.
That Black Guy
June 1st, 2012
5:47 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 1st, 2012
4:49 pm
Correction: Which is why they keep trying to blame the tax cuts on Obama since he EXTENDED them.
And why exactly, were they EXTENDED?
________________________________________________________
To get the unempolyment extension passed. I get that.
I don’t like the fact that he extended them.
He owns what he signs.
Thulsa Doom
June 1st, 2012
5:48 pm
Joe mama,
I didn’t attempt to disprove anything Joe Mama. Please show me where I tried to “disprove” something. You can’t. I’m just making a simple point- but then you have problems comprehending simple let alone complex points.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 1st, 2012
5:49 pm
…so comparing the two recessions in terms of employment recovery is pointless.
Two
.
different
.
types
.
of
.
recession.
That Black Guy
June 1st, 2012
5:50 pm
I give Bush a 4
Obama gets a 5.525559027745 (rounded up)
Recon 0311 2533
June 1st, 2012
5:53 pm
Looks like the libs are having a difficult time processing the recent economic reports, so it’s back to the Bush derangement syndrome.
Recon 0311 2533
June 1st, 2012
5:59 pm
Lets see there’s a recession with a downturn in the economy followed by robust recovery and then there’s a recession with a downturn in the economy with meager recovery. Seems like we’re experiencing the latter and the worst since the great depression. Is George Bush still running the country?
Thulsa Doom
June 1st, 2012
6:00 pm
Recon,
I think you nailed it. They can’t put lipstick on a pig with this morning’s jobs report so its back to their ultimate deflection- W. But, but, but Bush….
Recon 0311 2533
June 1st, 2012
6:02 pm
Doomy,
Yep the libs console themselves in the strangest ways.
Thulsa Doom
June 1st, 2012
6:04 pm
“Is George Bush still running the country?”- Recon
Recon,
Let me have Adam help out and give you an assist on an answer to that question.
Adam
May 4th, 2012
2:15 pm
Sorry, but Bush isn’t President anymore.
Thulsa Doom
June 1st, 2012
6:07 pm
A Boston consulting group said that there are 129,000 fewer millionaires today than at the start of 2011.
Lets hear that thunderous applause from the libs!
Never mind of course that there are now fewer rich people to pay the lion’s share of the taxes. Libs didn’t think about that did they? They never do…
GT
June 1st, 2012
6:11 pm
Dirty tricks, Watergate, is there a more paranoid herd of people than Republicans during election time?
Moderate Line
June 1st, 2012
6:28 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
June 1st, 2012
5:28 pm
Moderate Line — “Talk about defying logic and reason.”
Sorry, nothing doing. If you look at the monthly job numbers for both Presidents, you will see that job losses for Obama were worse than job losses under Bush at the start of both their terms.
I believe I made the same point. Unemployment never went above 6.3% in the first recession.
And you will also see that:
Obama had a positive month earlier in his term than Bush did
Obama had a net positive month (over 150K jobs added in a single month) earlier in his term than Bush did The recession started two months before Obama took office while under Bush the recession started two months after he took office. If your going to look at the quickest month we added jobs after a recession the recession started in Dec 2007 and we added jobs in Jan 2008. One month later. Cherry picking data leads to erroneous conclusions.
Obama has had a greater percentage of positive and net positive months at this point in his term than Bush had by this point in his first term
Since I was not comparing recessions and not Presidents I don’t know what your point is. I was not comparing Bush to Obama. I was comparing the recovery of jobs under the 2001 recession and the 2007 recession.
1) My first point is you can not compare the employment recovery because unemployment top out at 6.3% in 2001 which not much over full employment.
2) All the jobs we lost in 2001 were recovered in 47 months.
3) Based on my calculations we have only recovered 33% of the jobs we lost from the peak.
However, if you want to argue about jobs under Obama month the month. I will argue about how long did it take for either President show positive job growth from their 1st month.
Bush had positive job growth in the 27th month of his presidency. Pretty pathetic, However, Obama has yet to show positive job growth for his presidency. He is still down 1375K from his first month in office. Now all that being said I think I am just showing you how I can cherry pick data just as good as you because the data doesn’t show everything because the recession that Bush faced was not that bad which was point in the first place. My argument was never that Bush was better at adding jobs but the recession in 2001 was not as bad. The circumstances that the two men face were quite different. In 2001 we did not have all these people under water on their houses and a complete banking failure.
This ought to keep you busy over the weekend.
The only thing I think is you really did not understand my point originally because the data reflects poorly on your preferred candidate so you cherry pick some data to try to show how your candidate is better than Bush but interest was only in comparing the recovering of one to the other or showing how neither could be compared.
Thulsa Doom
June 1st, 2012
6:28 pm
GT,
Yes. Those nice OWS folks.
Moderate Line
June 1st, 2012
6:30 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 1st, 2012
5:49 pm
…so comparing the two recessions in terms of employment recovery is pointless.
Two different types of recession.
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Again, my point.
Thulsa Doom
June 1st, 2012
6:34 pm
Oh Noes Joe Mama was cherry picking data! Say it aint so.
JKL2
June 1st, 2012
6:39 pm
Good thing we have fewer people looking for work to make obama’s unemployment numbers look good. If it was the same as when he took office, unemployment would really be over 10%.
Not sure how much more of his “lazer-like focus on job creation” we can take…
Moderate Line
June 1st, 2012
6:50 pm
All I was showing was how the two recession are incomparable but because the numbers interpreted by people who support Obama saw these “numbers” as an attack on Obama they become defensive. If you interpret these number negatively just think how moderates will take it. Republicans don’t matter because they are not going to vote for Obama anyway.
In any kind of analysis their is a subjective element. This recession had a banking failure and a housing market collapse which has left many people under water. I have said over and over this recession was going to last a long time. McCain winning would not have made any difference. I also believed that we would probably hit a double dip recession. We may not hit one but the economy is hitting a second slow down. I don’t think who the president was would make any difference.
But if you live by the sword you die by the sword. And for President unfortunately the sword is the economy.
Moderate Line
June 1st, 2012
6:57 pm
Moderate Line
June 1st, 2012
5:21 pm
Jay
June 1st, 2012
3:45 pm
Jay
June 1st, 2012
3:45 pm
As a matter of fact, it is NOT. In terms of jobs, for example, the recovery from this recession is stronger than that under Bush.
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Even with the latest job gain, the economy has regained only 3.9 million of the 8.8 million jobs that were lost in the deep recession that ended in June 2009. May’s job growth was the smallest increase in a year.
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-06-01/the-u-dot-s-dot-economy-slips-below-the-mendoza-line
Logic and Reason.
Joseph
June 1st, 2012
6:59 pm
He didn’t have to send them Jay. His campaign office was right around the corner. LOL.. You loons… I guess you could go ahead and admit that Obama and his surrogates started up and support the Wall St slugs…..
Joseph
June 1st, 2012
7:01 pm
Anything to run away from that atrocious record… LOL…
Joseph
June 1st, 2012
7:03 pm
I’m just ready to see them poll numbers fall next week… LOL….
G Mare 71(PLEASE VOTE NO ON TSPLOST)
June 1st, 2012
8:14 pm
JamVet re 5:29: I think you are being generous with that 1. More like .7 ! And off topic yet again, did anyone else see the CNN story re the Nuns vs the Vatican? My take? You rock, Sisters!!! And, yeah, I’m allowed to say that because I spent 14 years in Catholic schools & am pretty much recovered now, all these years later.
Please vote no on tsplost,
Signed, G O D
Mighty Righty
June 1st, 2012
8:56 pm
Can’t stand the equal treatment, huh. Republicans only make noise, they won’t attack the speaker the way Obamanazi thugs have and will.
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Mighty Righty
June 1st, 2012
9:06 pm
This is the Obama economy. He spent five trillion dollars and he claimed he fixed the economy and it was recovering. Well, when the new skipper of the ship takes over, does the repair, claims the repairs were a success and then sails the ship around for three years bragging about how he fixed it, he cannot now complain that the prior skipper caused the new leak. This is the Obama economy for better or worse. He has spent three years bad mouthing business, bad mounthing capitalisim and saddeling them with strangling regulations he should not now be surprised that the job producers are having trouble producing jobs. A fifth grader could figure it out.
Mighty Righty
June 1st, 2012
9:15 pm
Now, if the Obama campaign has evidence that the hecklers in Boston were following instructions from the Romney camp, or if Jay has evidence of an orchestrated effort by Romney supporters and campaign staff in other efforts, let’s see it. Such tactics by either side should not be tolerated .
But by sending paid operatives to disrupt the Axelrod event, (Proof please) and by bragging about it afterward, Romney is setting a dangerously confrontational tone, and he’s doing it from the very top.
Next thing there will be Union thugs like the blue shirted S.E.I.U. and other Obama supporters causing violence like they did in St. Louis.
G Mare 71(PLEASE VOTE NO ON TSPLOST)
June 1st, 2012
9:20 pm
Mighty, say WHAT? Cognitive dissonance in the first degree!
G Mare 71(PLEASE VOTE NO ON TSPLOST)
June 1st, 2012
9:23 pm
Someone here earlier asked another someone about Scrabble. Words With Friends anyone?
td
June 1st, 2012
9:32 pm
Mighty Righty
June 1st, 2012
9:15 pm
I think Romney’s team was sending a clear message to Obama’s team that they are not the McCain campaign and they will not put up with the same Chicago style thug tactics they saw 4 years ago and in 2010. If you want to say it sets up a confrontation then so be it.
JKL2
June 1st, 2012
9:43 pm
Gm- if Bush was so great why dont Willard appear with him in any photos?
Because Bush isn’t a publicity whore like Clinton. You don’t see he traveling around third world countries tell them how the US sucks like Carter either.
Georgia
June 1st, 2012
9:50 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8IqkRbxcTA&feature=related
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
June 1st, 2012
10:22 pm
Because Bush isn’t a publicity whore like
ClintonSarah “Snowbilly Snooki” Plain.Fried yon taco
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
June 1st, 2012
10:33 pm
“if Bush was so great why dont Willard appear with him in any photos?”
The same reason Democratic candidates don’t want to be seen with Obama.
Joel Edge
June 2nd, 2012
5:55 am
Please, Jay. Dem supporters have been harassing others for decades. Acting offended when the favor is returned? If you didn’t want “a dangerously confrontational tone” you should have been condemning it before now.
Vinny
June 2nd, 2012
11:46 am
Oh Jay, you and your little liberal bed-wetting butt-buddies are such a bunch of wimps.
At least Romney isn’t trying to ensure that illegal aliens vote in the next election.
Go cry in your post toasties and call someone who gives a crap.
Get Real
June 2nd, 2012
2:37 pm
Comrade Jay, we know the rules are different for liberals. I like Axlerod’s line that “you can’t handle the truth” spoken by the villan in a Few Good Men…makes sense to me…
Voice of the People PAC
June 5th, 2012
11:33 am
so then two wrongs do make a right.
i just love learning about americanism
Tyler
June 5th, 2012
1:29 pm
Glad to see he’s willing to be the bigger man.
Chris
June 5th, 2012
1:48 pm
Matt, probably no chance you will see this, but how dumb can you get? Did you read the article? Romney admitted to paying them and sending them over. Reading comprehension…
cemz
June 5th, 2012
2:24 pm
What is Romney even doing running for president?! in any other country he would be a political moron for using religion as a platform. religion has no place in politics.
Paul
June 5th, 2012
3:46 pm
(BTW, the whole Occupy tactic of interrupting events and trying to shout down opponents is undemocratic and uncivil and harms the credibility of its cause. It’s a tactic of those unable or unwilling to debate.)
It is also a tactic of those who aren’t invited to the debate or given a seat at the table. Many of the views of Occupy (i.e. the rich should pay more taxes) are shared by many informed people capable of debate but they aren’t represented in the media. At least they weren’t until Occupiers started having sit-ins and interrupting speeches by the wealthy.
Peter
June 5th, 2012
4:37 pm
When you say: ” (BTW, the whole Occupy tactic of interrupting events and trying to shout down opponents is undemocratic and uncivil and harms the credibility of its cause. It’s a tactic of those unable or unwilling to debate.)”
you are generalizing in a most unhelpful way. Are you aware that certain parts of the Occupy movement actually feel that the whole process is rigged and undemocratic and that disruption is perhaps their only hope of being heard?
Also, do you think that former Mayor Giuliani is somehow loved by the 99%? His fascist tactics and obvious disdain for anything other than the moneyed classes really set him up for disrespect. From whom do you think Mayor Bloomberg learn his anti-democratic tactics?
Please don’t behave like the mainstream media and make sarcastic remarks about dirty hippies. Really they may be our only hope.
J
June 5th, 2012
4:54 pm
This Election just vote for whom you think will do the best job.
http://www.dailyjobcuts.com
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Stormkrow
June 5th, 2012
5:22 pm
Wait til we folks in Occupy start visiting him on the campaign trail in the coming months.
ga_observer
June 5th, 2012
5:43 pm
Anybody remember that Obama’s administration (the corrupt Eric Holder) refused to prosecute the New Black Panthers who openly stood with weapons at the polling places? So what about a little yelling at a campaign event, a little sauce for his goose brings O’s billy clubs to our gander with the full support of the corrupt Attorney General.
Old Dawg
June 5th, 2012
5:59 pm
What’s the purpose of this column? Lots of political campaigns have been doing this for a long time. It’s politics, not powderpuff football!
OedipusTax
June 5th, 2012
6:16 pm
Liberals have been shouting down conservative speakers for decades, quite often at liberal universities that are supposed to teach freedom of speech. No one is more intolerant of free speech today than a typical liberal, that professes to already know what is right, and therefore, discussion isn’t necessary. This includes Jay Bookman. Talk radio fails with liberals because know-it-alls do not listen.
Patrick Romano WAR DAMN EAGLE
June 5th, 2012
6:22 pm
WOW, The libs including this newspaper of a rag albeit it Electronically has no Ethics.
Hey Jay, ever here of reporting the “real news” What a joke-You are about as useless as your crack sports guys over there, Mark Bradley and D Lebetter and let’s not forget Schultz. What a bunch of tools.
Thank God Romney is running against this Apologizer in Chief. What a joke he has made out of this great nation and our constitution!
Can;t wait till Nov
Patrick Romano WAR DAMN EAGLE
June 5th, 2012
6:26 pm
At ga_obsewrver, You are SO right and the liberal press won’t let you remember or much less report it or BHO’s allegiances to The rev. Jeremiah Wright and other terrorists…
FOX News, Fair & Balanced #1 is why it’s #1 Cable News Show!
Martin Williams
June 5th, 2012
6:38 pm
You know what Jay, I hope Romney becomes our next president. If we as Americans think a person with a business experience is the best to run this country now, they should think again. Look what Georgia W. Bush did to America, he left us in the greatest recession, and Hoover did the same and both had business experience. I know under Romney, un-employment will surely be in double digit. So, I continue to hope Mitt Romney becomes our next president and amen to that.
flagger
June 5th, 2012
6:41 pm
Hey Jay ure lib is hanging out…
Cats hav fleas 2
June 5th, 2012
6:45 pm
Skool is hard….I quitting, makin babies and lettin da gubment take care of me. I want sum o jay munney….prez say it ok
Obama is a coward
June 5th, 2012
6:52 pm
Romney 2012.
Jay, you are quite biased aren’t ya, son?
Something smells in this country
June 5th, 2012
7:07 pm
Republican, Democrat, Obama, Romney they all smell like rotten eggs. Time to start all over.
atljack
June 5th, 2012
7:09 pm
Let’s conduct a test for honesty. Are there ANY Republicans who actually like Romney? Really?
Come on. You know in your heart that you don’t really want a flip-flopping (remember how you accused Clinton and Kerry of being a “flip-flopper” – Romney is an ALL-WORLD flip flopper) RomenyCare creating Mormon as President.
baby
June 5th, 2012
7:09 pm
The hecklers at the caucus that booed Mitt’s sons were Paul supporters. He’s so incredibly confused.
Adam
June 5th, 2012
8:05 pm
Wow way to be an 8 year old. Two wrongs don’t make a right etc. and so forth.
Barrack "I'm a Lying Hypocrite!" Obama
June 5th, 2012
8:59 pm
Hell yeah if Obozo is gonna do it….Romney should as well….I like how this guy is a straight shooter not like that phony fake ass Obozo…he would have lied
Ron Hyatt
June 5th, 2012
9:38 pm
You commie libs are gonna get a whole bunch of shovel sammiches this year.
melvinowens
June 5th, 2012
9:40 pm
i do not trust thurston howell III, i mean mitt romney
DwayneL
June 5th, 2012
10:13 pm
obama is going to loose big this November so he can send all the hecklers he wants!
Kris
June 5th, 2012
10:14 pm
The republicans continue to bully Women.
Democratic measure designed to ensure that women don’t face pay discrimination was blocked Tuesday by Republicans “Republicans putting partisan politics ahead of American women and families.”
OBAMA 2012
OedipusTax
June 5th, 2012
10:20 pm
Now we find that Romney’s email account has been hacked. Ok, objective Mark Bradley, report on THAT! Maybe then you can get the egg off of your face for all the hatred you spew about Romney. What a pitiful excuse for a columnist, but of course, even more pitiful is the ridiculously prejudiced AJC that can’t come up with anybody better than you. Now wonder newspapers are going out of business.
OedipusTax
June 5th, 2012
10:20 pm
Not Mark Bradley, Jay Bookman
Simeon Namore
June 5th, 2012
10:26 pm
Ah. You see, this is one of the ways fascism rises. They embrace any and all opportunities to manufacture offenses against them, so that they may retaliate in feigned righteousness and indignation. This is how it’s done, in little and in large.
Jack
June 5th, 2012
10:35 pm
“It’s a tactic of those unable or unwilling to debate.”
Or a tactic of those who are not given an opportunity to debate; a tactic of those who have to MAKE themselves heard.
Atlanta1
June 5th, 2012
10:37 pm
Waiting for the excuses to start on the ‘beat down’ the Unions took…
Out spent 7:1…
Better organized on the ground… That’s what is being said on CNN.
But to CNN’S credit, they are also reporting that 90% of those polled made up their minds weeks ago (before the heavy advertising started)…
Oh well…
Mike
June 5th, 2012
10:45 pm
Romney, as a leader, should probably talk more about “The Golden Rule”, and its merits, rather than suggesting bad done to you, can and should be returned. My kids hate the ugly they are seeing done, and I know it is only going to get worse. Let’s try to put an end to “jungle rule” now, before it gets much worse.
Sux Limbow
June 5th, 2012
11:16 pm
Speaking of civil debate (or lack thereof), sinc chickenhawk Boortz is tossing in the sponge, I guess you’ll never get a chance to dismantle his ‘big lie’ fair tax in person.
Oblama
June 5th, 2012
11:55 pm
Sometimes you make a funny and it’s taken as the truth. That was the case here. I can remember Dems using those tactics against the “Newtster”.. They unloaded a bus load of laid off labor union supporters to heckle Newt on live TV. Both sides can play that game.
CuriousVoter
June 6th, 2012
12:36 am
What’s wrong liberals? Can’t take your own medicine? You think Republicans don’t remember all the heckling you did to Bush? Romney is right, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
Joel
June 6th, 2012
12:40 am
Wow. It is hard to comment on this, not for the humor or any other reason other than the sadness that our nation has achieved over the 200+ years it has been ‘independent’. Our forefathers created a nation in such fashion that they had representation, or by the people. To look at the advances that humankind has achieved since our beginnings one would theorize that we, as a people, have gotten more intelligent as time passes. We have gone from discovering how to start a fire, to discovering that round, edgeless objects are easiest to roll, thus make great methods of connecting to the ground something that you desire to be moved from one location to another.
However, we have gone from watching TV shows with an entertainment factor along with making a point by which people can grasp a different understanding of certain situations, and therefore think more broadly – despite whether or not their opinion of the situation changes as a result…to TV shows such as Jackass, Jersey Swhores, and so on. And we support them (by which I mean those who have nothing better to do than watch adults act as kids and take no responsibility for their own lives, rather than doing other, more entertaining things, such as mild, non-lethal but still painful self-mutilation. No, I don’t find such activity fun, entertaining, nor acceptable, but for comparison it fits the bill to describe the anguish this show brings to the more mature, intelligent sector of society.
Our forefathers had representation in government, because they formed it. As time goes on, we have less and less influence in our government, but nonetheless we hit those voting booths without realizing that 99% of the laws that govern us were written before our grandparents were born. Somehow people find it acceptable to force people to wear a seat restraint in cars, in fear of a monetary loss dictated by those who laugh as they stuff the money behind their pocket protector, as they get ready to go to a gay sex club to cheat on their wife and take her the gifts of STDs. Ahh the warm, loving individuals these are. Menwhile the one writing the ticket is usually underpaid, and just a half mile from a rape/homicide in progress. And a motorcyclist passes by, with no helmet, protected only by the glasses that he/she may or may not be wearing, allowed to do so legally, with no protection. Nevermind the strengthened glass, steel, and other solids which has safety tests and strict rules on how they must react physically to collisions, based on impact speed, force, and angle. Has anyone seen the old crash dummy commercials? Remember? “You can learn a lot from a dummy. Please, buckle your safety belt.”
Like many of you, I missed those commercials where the crash dummy was used to test the safety of the motorcyclist in a collision. One may accuse the DOT of not testing the two-wheeled carriages, but we are confident that our government wouldn’t allow us to ride on/in anything that is unsafe! Oh, they didn’t test them? But lots of states doesn’t even require them to wear anything other than shoes and enough articles of covering to cover up insulting body parts. We vote for republicans, or democrats, sometimes independents. We call republicans ‘conservative’ when they portray the opposite of the definition of conservative in their policies/actions. We allow the new ‘tea party’ to profanely disgrace one of the most liberating protests in American history. If you want to be a Tea Party, then protest, force the government to abandon the political party system. Create a new party, not for the rich nor the poor. Not for the candidate’s own welfare. But rather for the people, pushing and forcing policies, laws, and regulations that are FAIR to the PEOPLE and their freedom, privacy, and equality. Force the government to abandon its own corruption, each candidate is on their own for campaigning, organizing, gathering their staff/committees to schedule outings and speeches.
Instead, what do we have? Democrats: “I am voting against that because it was brought up by a republican.” And republicans: “I am voting against that because it was brought up by a democrat!”
This is more obvious in the republican party, but each side is at fault. Quit freaking whining, grow some mid-region spheres and stand up for the people who are credited/blamed for the position you are holding, because if you don’t vote and write legislation in their favor, then you are scum, and not worthy of being a man – and I feel sorry for your kids and spouses, to be next of kin to an invertebrate.
Ann
June 6th, 2012
1:20 am
Keep it up AJC. Misleading headlines designed to slam the Repub candidate. That’s why this week when you called to offer me the paper for almost free I said NO.
mothers concerned
June 6th, 2012
5:54 am
He is still a bully !!! I feel sorry for him
mongo
June 6th, 2012
6:24 am
Dubya2 = Willard Mitt Romney
Eastern Kentucky
June 6th, 2012
6:37 am
Just curious: are you a paid employee of the Democratic National Committee, or are you instructed by the AJC to fault-find Republicans and ignore Democrat’s faults, or do you honestly think Republicans are evil and Democrats are something just shy of holy?
American
June 6th, 2012
6:54 am
Okay, you know this is getting old. We are so stupid that the foreign press is not printing anything positive. Here we go again! Eight years Bush minus four years Obama=… Do the math dummies! Let’s do it again, if it took Bush 8 years to spend a surplus, many jobs outsourced to foreign soil, made products with “Made in the USA” a novelty, give the 1% a very sweet tax break, forgive standard regulations for Wall St/Banks/credit cards/campaign funds and create a deficit in the trillions of dollars looking for weapons of mass destruction, why in the H*** would it go away in 4 years? If you can’t figure that out for the love of GOD please burn your voter’s registration card! TODAY!!! PEACE!!!!
Willis
June 6th, 2012
7:23 am
Oh, Romney. The guy who assaulted a fellow student (with his gang) and used scissors to give the student a haircut. Yeah, that guy. Paying hecklers is just reflective of his attitude toward others he doesn’t like.
Freedoms Almanac » Blog Archive » MEGA NEWS PILE
June 6th, 2012
11:34 am
[...] Romney admits Dick move. They all do it…but its still belittles us all. [...]
Mark vCitUntd Jansen
June 6th, 2012
11:53 am
Were the Hecklers of Mitt Romney Organized Hecklers SENT By The Obama Organization or were they grass roots Conscientious Objectors to the Mormon Bishop of the White Horse Prophesy, or the one who Baptizes the Deceased of other Religions to convert them to Mormonism, or the Candidate whose Family Tree Looks Like a tree with “Witches Broom” in it.. reflecting grandaddy Miles’ multiple wives? Might be they were objecting to the candidacy of a Velociraptor Capitalist who shreded their jobs before gulping down their retirement savings!!!! RUFKM! I can think of a couple hundred million people who should be heckling Mint RawMoney and none of them have Swiss or Banana Island Bank accounts to hide their money!
Joe Hussein Mama
June 6th, 2012
5:18 pm
M. Line — “I believe I made the same point. Unemployment never went above 6.3% in the first recession.”
Not the point I was making. Look to monthly job losses, not percentages. That’s where you misunderstand me.
“The recession started two months before Obama took office while under Bush the recession started two months after he took office. If your going to look at the quickest month we added jobs after a recession the recession started in Dec 2007 and we added jobs in Jan 2008. One month later. Cherry picking data leads to erroneous conclusions.”
It certainly does, which is why I specifically pointed to Presidential terms, not recessions. This is what I said:
Obama had a positive month earlier in his term than Bush did
Obama had a net positive month (over 150K jobs added in a single month) earlier in his term than Bush did
I stand by both of those statements. If I wanted to speak directly to the respective recessions, then I would have specifically *said* “recessions. But I didn’t.
“Since I was not comparing recessions and not Presidents I don’t know what your point is. I was not comparing Bush to Obama. I was comparing the recovery of jobs under the 2001 recession and the 2007 recession.”
I understand that you don’t get my point. Simply understand that I’m making a point as well.
“1) My first point is you can not compare the employment recovery because unemployment top out at 6.3% in 2001 which not much over full employment.”
Actually, you can compare it quite readily. But I’m on record here several times describing the performance of both Obama and Bush as poor in this regard.
“2) All the jobs we lost in 2001 were recovered in 47 months.”
I don’t believe that’s true and will be doing the math on my own. I’ll try to respond in the morning.
“3) Based on my calculations we have only recovered 33% of the jobs we lost from the peak.”
I’ll have a look at this, too.
“However, if you want to argue about jobs under Obama month the month. I will argue about how long did it take for either President show positive job growth from their 1st month.”
Already addressed above, on a per-month basis.
“Bush had positive job growth in the 27th month of his presidency.”
No.
“Pretty pathetic, However, Obama has yet to show positive job growth for his presidency. He is still down 1375K from his first month in office. Now all that being said I think I am just showing you how I can cherry pick data just as good as you because the data doesn’t show everything because the recession that Bush faced was not that bad which was point in the first place. My argument was never that Bush was better at adding jobs but the recession in 2001 was not as bad. The circumstances that the two men face were quite different. In 2001 we did not have all these people under water on their houses and a complete banking failure.”
Okay.
“The only thing I think is you really did not understand my point originally because the data reflects poorly on your preferred candidate”
I understand just fine. However, you do now. I’ve never *defended* Obama in this area here on Jay’s blog. You are simply mistaken on that point.
“so you cherry pick some data to try to show how your candidate is better than Bush”
Incorrect. Again, I’ve deplored the performance of *both.* Both suck for different reasons.
“but interest was only in comparing the recovering of one to the other or showing how neither could be compared.”
Not at all; comparison is eminently possible here.