The race for the White House: What the numbers say

On this last day of May, let’s take a look at where we stand in the presidential race, shall we?

In short, it looks like a tight one.

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Mitt Romney and Barack Obama are tied in both the Gallup (46/46) and Rasmussen (45/45) tracking polls, with Obama holding a narrow two-point lead in the RealClearPolitics average of national polls. (The most recent Fox poll — taken mid-month — put Obama up by seven.)

RCP’s state-by-state results favor Obama so far, with the incumbent holding 230 of the 270 electoral votes needed for re-election and Romney holding 170, with 131 too close to call.

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But as Stu Rothenberg points out at Roll Call, the stars may even be aligning for a repeat of the 2000 debacle in which Al Gore got 540,000 more votes than George W. Bush but lost in the electoral college:

“Most of the same states are in play as were in 2000, and any close popular vote outcome raises the possibility of a split decision, especially because Obama is likely to “waste” large numbers of votes in carrying a handful of populous states.

In 2000, six states delivered a plurality of at least 500,000 votes to one of the major party nominees. Five of those states — New York, California, Massachusetts, Illinois and New Jersey — went for Gore, while only one, Texas, went for Bush. Bush carried 30 states that year, while Gore won 20 states and the District of Columbia.

Eight years later, in a relative blowout, 10 states delivered pluralities of at least 500,000 votes for one of the nominees. Obama won nine of those states (the five above plus Michigan, Maryland, Pennsylvania and Washington), while Texas gave Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) a huge win.”

As Rothenberg points out, such a divisive outcome “could produce national hand-wringing, finger-pointing, complaints of unfairness and anger, further dividing Americans and undermining confidence in our political system.”

Frank Newport, editor-in-chief at Gallup, looks at the polling and points out that the situation today ought to be familiar:

“Obama is in a quite similar position to George W. Bush’s position in 2004. Bush ended up winning that election over Democrat John Kerry by three percentage points in the popular vote. Bush’s job approval rating was in the upper 40s at about this time in 2004, as is Obama’s today. And, in terms of the trial-heat ballots, Bush and Kerry were close, as are Obama and Romney today. In a May 21-23 2004 poll, for example, it was Kerry 48 percent, Bush 46 percent among registered voters. In our most recent weekly seven-day rolling average this year, from May 22-29, it’s Obama 46 percent, Romney 46 percent — again, among RVs. You can’t get too much more similar than that.”

And as Gallup also points out, the lines that divide us aren’t that hard to discern:

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In other words, while in total we Americans are very closely divided — testimony in part to the increasing skill of political professionals — the differences of opinion within our various subgroups are quite stark.

Finally, for the record, my own best guess at this point echoes the point made by Newport: Obama in November by three.

– Jay Bookman

336 comments Add your comment

Register to Vote in Georgia

May 31st, 2012
9:12 am

Mick

May 31st, 2012
9:15 am

Yes, obama in november with the dems holding the senate and taking back the house…then put the pedal to the metal for a full blown socialist agenda!!! I kid, I kid…

HDB

May 31st, 2012
9:15 am

We all know that this election will be close….but it’ll be greatly influenced by how the superPACS attack the candidates….and which lies are the more convincing!! When Corporate America and the GOPPACS propose to spend upwards of ONE BILLION DOLLARS to spread their ideology….let’s hope that the PEOPLE’S voice speaks louder!!

If you are experiencing problems registering to vote call....

May 31st, 2012
9:15 am

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Keep Up the Good Fight!

May 31st, 2012
9:15 am

All the more reason to stop all the new voting restrictions and purges of voter rolls by Republicans to disfranchise legitimate voters and to watch the actual fraud by Republicans (the latest appearently in MI).

Out By The Pond

May 31st, 2012
9:16 am

It shouldn’t be this close.

JohnnyReb

May 31st, 2012
9:19 am

And, my own best guess is Romney in a blowout. Here’s but one reason.

As the time draws closer, voters of all types will realize you don’t have over 30 states voting against gay marriage who then vote in a guy who will load the supreme court to give an outcome completely different.

Besides, by the time we disinfranchise all those poor people who don’t have voter ID the other guys won’t have a chance!

Wondering

May 31st, 2012
9:20 am

How could we possibly vote out a president that has been so frugal? Jay need to show his chart on a daily basis to remind people.

King of Everything

May 31st, 2012
9:21 am

Political light years between now and November. Obama will knock over Romney the same way he did to that fly or the Donald. Good thing they are tied now which means they have an even break in the horse race. With Bain, MA. Gov. record, the party of “NO”, I still smell a landslide. Let’s see if the superPACS money can really talk since SCOTUS says money is speech.

...and President Obama "might" have Georgia on his mind....

May 31st, 2012
9:21 am

Now is the time for Georgia to be a toss up state. He can WIN Georgia too!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kH_EZF0XqM&ob=av2e

Out By The Pond

May 31st, 2012
9:21 am

There is little chance of the democrats taking back the house if the top spot is this close. If (when) Obama is reelected it will be four more years of obstruction from the right. And God help us if he is not reelected. This past recession will look like the Good Old Days.

JohnnyReb

May 31st, 2012
9:22 am

I can’t resist – here’s reason #2 for Romney in a blowout.

If for no other reason, to get Obama’s mug off the TV!

If Barry spent as much time actually working to solve problems as he does campaigning and making useless speeches, he could have been a better president.

larry

May 31st, 2012
9:23 am

I think it will be Obama by a field goal and a safety , especially after the debates. I also think that after the 65+ crowd and the 50-64 crowd gets more information on the Ryan-Romney budget plan, that number will turn as well.

Stonethrower

May 31st, 2012
9:24 am

Polls say what I want them to say. Romney in a close race because the poor and the young don’t matter because they don’t vote.

Common Sense

May 31st, 2012
9:24 am

Keep Dreamin’

larry

May 31st, 2012
9:26 am

Besides, by the time we disinfranchise all those poor people who don’t have voter ID the other guys won’t have a chance.

Brought to you by the National Republican Party.

We are only constitutional when we want to be!

Thomas

May 31st, 2012
9:26 am

Sugary drinks> 16 ounces banned in NYC in March of 2013
New York City is not about wringing your hands; it’s about doing something,” he said. “I think that’s what the public wants the mayor to do.”

All fun and games until a neo con mayor says all citizens must carry a loaded pistol for protection- it is in the publics interest

To an Islamic Mayor commissions a study that says praying 5 times a day promotes emotional and physical health

It always makes sense to those it makes sense to

Paul

May 31st, 2012
9:26 am

“such a divisive outcome “could produce national hand-wringing, finger-pointing, complaints of unfairness and anger, further dividing Americans and undermining confidence in our political system.”

Yes it may, because those with whom we disagree aren’t just those we disagree with, it’s because they are evil, ill informed, stupid, selfish….

Obama’s a socialist, Romney’s a corporate elitist. It’s not “Pres Obama has this position, Gov Romney has that position.” Closest we get is “Pres Obama wants higher taxes on the super rich because he’s a socialist, wealth distributionist who hates capitalism” and “Romney wants to cut corporate taxes because he’s a big-money elitist who disdains the average working person and wants to keep them in their place.”

I guess the only way some people can feel good about their opinions is to demonize those who don’t share them. Personally, I think that’s an indicator of some pretty big insecurities.

Aquagirl

May 31st, 2012
9:28 am

As the time draws closer, voters of all types will realize you don’t have over 30 states voting against gay marriage who then vote in a guy who will load the supreme court

The problem with obsession is you often don’t notice those around you aren’t as obsessed.

the cat

May 31st, 2012
9:29 am

The debates will be one of the deciding factors along with the women’s vote to put President Obama back in office. Mittens is going to look like a floundering idiot during the debates.

Steve

May 31st, 2012
9:29 am

My intuition is usually right, and it’s clear to me that Obama wins. Romney doesn’t have anything special to bring to the table. Things are improving enough that the public won’t want to change course, especially when they remember what 8 years of George Bush was like. When Romney’s Massachusetts bad record settles into the public conscious, that will kill him too, as will the gutting of social programs that he’s behind.

larry

May 31st, 2012
9:29 am

This is pretty sad……………Why vote for a canidate who can not spell AMERICA!!

http://specials.msn.com/a-list/news/mitt-romney-typo-popular-pages

too little time

May 31st, 2012
9:29 am

GWB got it by 3% ONLY because the country was still shell-shocked after 9/11. John Kerry doesn’t have that going for him.

Finn McCool

May 31st, 2012
9:29 am

Vegas still has Romney at around 2:1 and obama at around 7:11.

josef

May 31st, 2012
9:29 am

Interesting and a nice chart…

One result does stand out, though, high school or less… 44 Obama, 46 Romney…sorta takes the wind out of the sails of both sides claiming the other is the choice of the uneducated…

The Romany Lady is still not laying odds…crystal ball is too murky…

Paul

May 31st, 2012
9:29 am

Thomas

Can you clarify?

Which candidate will win because of the proposed supersize sugary drink ban in New York City?

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

May 31st, 2012
9:30 am

President Obama will win a close one, but he will win. There will also be a shifting of power in the House and senate. If this means four more years of obfuscation we will see. Odds are the the seats in both houses will be tighter and maybe some thing will get done. But regardless, I think people are waking up to the nightmare of what unfettered corporate money will do to this country…

And…

Somebody explain to me how a person can advocate personal rights and yet not advocate the right to choose or the right to marry? Either you advocate for ALL equality in rights, or you are being hypocritical.

Brosephus™

May 31st, 2012
9:31 am

I guess the only way some people can feel good about their opinions is to demonize those who don’t share them. Personally, I think that’s an indicator of some pretty big insecurities.

I’ll co-sign that one all day long!!!!

ty webb

May 31st, 2012
9:31 am

“This is pretty sad……………Why vote for a canidate who can not spell AMERICA!!”

“canidate”? really?

Steve Atl

May 31st, 2012
9:32 am

I am voting for Romney because the largest issue in our country is the economy and Mitt Romney has the proven track record to take a total financial mess and make it into a viable and profitable entity.

Obama has been winging it with minimal results and a ridiculous amount of debt…

godless heathen

May 31st, 2012
9:32 am

That’s some breakdown. A few more categories would be nice.

Stoners
NASCAR fans
Dirt hippies
Rastafarians
Cross-dressers
Cross-dressing Rastafarians
Cross-dressing Rastafarian NASCAR fans

Brosephus™

May 31st, 2012
9:32 am

josef

I’m wondering where that chart puts me and the ABW. Black, married, college educated, Christian, income over $36K…. Some things just can’t be distilled down by demographics.

the cat

May 31st, 2012
9:33 am

Mittens has yet to release his 2011 tax return, his dad was born in Mexico in a commune, his wife spends money like the Queen. He may outspend Obama but voters aren’t going to be swayed.

Common Sense isn't very Common

May 31st, 2012
9:33 am

Jay

I didn’t see old white guys in the chart?

You and I are an important demographic :-)

josef

May 31st, 2012
9:33 am

TY
@ 9:31

:-) Beat me to it!

andygrdzki

May 31st, 2012
9:34 am

Hope and Change continues:

Weekly Jobless Claims Rise for Fourth Straight Week
Published May 31, 2012
Reuters
New U.S. claims for unemployment benefits rose last week for the fourth straight week, which could heighten concerns the labor market recovery is softening.
Initial claims for state unemployment benefits rose 10,000 to a seasonally adjusted 383,000, the Labor Department said on Thursday.
The prior week’s figure was revised up to 373,000 from the previously reported 370,000. Economists polled by Reuters had forecast claims unchanged last week.
Claims have now risen in seven of the last eight weeks. Most of those increases were marginal and the overall level of claims has held at levels consistent with a modest recovery in the labor market.
But the steady increase could add to the concerns raised by April’s disappointing 115,000 gain in nonfarm payrolls. A Labor Department report due on Friday is expected to show employers added 150,000 jobs in May.
The four-week moving average for new claims, a measure of labor market trends, increased 3,750 to 374,500.
A Labor Department official said there was nothing unusual in the data but that results for five states, including California, had been estimated.
The number of people still receiving benefits under regular state programs after an initial week of aid fell 36,000 to 3.24 million in the week ended May 19.
The number of people on extended benefits rose 12,479 to 312,434 in the week ended May 12, the latest week for which data is available.

Still, back in the US after several extended trips…… No place like Home……

King of Everything

May 31st, 2012
9:34 am

Larry@ 9:29 am. Because that makes him look like one of “us” and we identify with him. Sort of like “refudiate”. That’s why repubs want to can the Dept. of Education.

ty webb

May 31st, 2012
9:35 am

too far off to bet…right now, the more interesting “horse race” involves “I’ll Have Another”.

Mary Elizabeth

May 31st, 2012
9:36 am

Paul, what about this thought?

The same political forces, and interests, which put George W. Bush in power are supporting the presidency of Mitt Romney. Food for thought? Very different direction for our nation than the one steered by President Obama.

josef

May 31st, 2012
9:36 am

BROSEPHUS

I was looking for me, too! Old Gay White Southern Jewish Redneck Plantation Liberal and Delusional Lickspittle…oops, better stop while I’m ahead… :-)

Steve

May 31st, 2012
9:37 am

So, how WAS Mittens’ record as Mass governor? So he’s going to run on being a lousy governor who didn’t create jobs, and his track record at Bain Capital where he destroyed jobs?

Common Sense isn't very Common

May 31st, 2012
9:37 am

larry

This is pretty sad……………Why vote for a canidate who can not spell AMERICA!!

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That’s because he offshored that app development to India :-)

ty webb

May 31st, 2012
9:37 am

josef,
yeah, “larry”, by his own standards, just disqualified himself for President.

Peadawg

May 31st, 2012
9:37 am

If things keep going like they are (unemployment falling, gas prices falling, positive job growth each month, etc.) I suspect Obama will be re-elected.

I also think Democrats will have full control of the House(majority) and Senate(over 60)…that will make it work better. All this fighting over something as simple as extending the student loan interest rate has gotten old.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

May 31st, 2012
9:39 am

“Cross-dressing Rastafarian NASCAR fans”

You rang?

in other words

May 31st, 2012
9:39 am

“Obama in November by three.”

Pats by three.

How’d that work out for you, loser?

Peadawg

May 31st, 2012
9:40 am

I just wish it was someone better than Obama and not as extreme, like Hillary.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

May 31st, 2012
9:40 am

Bro’, Josef…

Yeah, and I saw no column for “Normal People” either…

The Fresh Prince of BIll Ayers

May 31st, 2012
9:41 am

Too close to call for sure. This election could be the tipping point where enough Americans want a European model nanny state. Maybe the education system and t.v. have dumbed enough people down to where they need politicians to run their lives for them.

Adam

May 31st, 2012
9:41 am

In other words, while in total we Americans are very closely divided — testimony in part to the increasing skill of political professionals — the differences of opinion within our various subgroups are quite stark.

IT’S ALL OBAMA’S FAULT!

Am I too late for that tripe?

TaxPayer

May 31st, 2012
9:42 am

Those vote preferences are quite telling. The GOP has that antiqued white male vote as conned as ever.

Recon 0311 2533

May 31st, 2012
9:42 am

Further proof as to how ideologically divided we are is the state of our economy and how tight this race appears to be. In past presidential elections with just released jobless claims and GDP numbers the incumbent would already be preparing to vacate the White House. In today’s political climate this incompetent is still alive but hopefully that will change in November.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/2012/05/31/weekly-jobless-claims-rise-for-fourth-straight-week/

godless heathen

May 31st, 2012
9:43 am

Normal: niche voter

Steve

May 31st, 2012
9:43 am

Recon – America doesn’t want to go back to what got us into this mess in the first place. That is why Obama will win, and Romney will tank.

Paul

May 31st, 2012
9:43 am

the cat

You may not want to pursue the “Mrs. Romney spends like the Queen” when the first lady spends a grand on a skirt and a couple grand on a sundress –

Doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense to criticize people for spending what they’ve earned. Neither the Obama or the Romneys are in debt, near as I can tell.

Adam

May 31st, 2012
9:44 am

JohnnyReb: As the time draws closer, voters of all types will realize you don’t have over 30 states voting against gay marriage who then vote in a guy who will load the supreme court to give an outcome completely different.

Sorry dude, but the anti-gay marriage ship has sailed as a voting turnout issue. Besides, the NC people forgot that to make that work you have to put it on the SAME ballot as the Presidential one :D

Butch Cassidy

May 31st, 2012
9:44 am

Steve Atl – “Mitt Romney has the proven track record to take a total financial mess and make it into a viable and profitable entity.”

And what experience does he have in the Non Profit sector? Afterall, the United States wasn’t set up as a for profit enterprise, and Romney can’t bankrupt the states he doesn’t like and sell them off to the highest bidder.

Grasshopper

May 31st, 2012
9:45 am

Obama gets 88% of the black vote? That’s a surprise. And 68% of the no religion vote? Not a surprise.

josef

May 31st, 2012
9:46 am

PAUL

And which queen would that be?

Adam

May 31st, 2012
9:46 am

larry: I also think that after the 65+ crowd and the 50-64 crowd gets more information on the Ryan-Romney budget plan, that number will turn as well.

They won’t, though. The “liberal media” isn’t bringing this up to them. And, well, need I say it… neither is Fox News.

Paul

May 31st, 2012
9:46 am

Mary Elizabeth

“The same political forces, and interests, which put George W. Bush in power are supporting the presidency of Mitt Romney. Food for thought? ”

It’s not surprising, and as I’ve written, it’s the preponderance those people have in an advisory capacity or are likely to become part of his administration that is the great cause for alarm. That’s entirely different than just pointing to Romney’s financial backers and saying “see where they come from?” when one of Pres Obama’s top bundlers runs Bain.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

May 31st, 2012
9:46 am

I agree with Jar regarding the outcome but not the margin. I think it will be at least double that.

DOJ will address voter disenfranchisement this summer…..The purging
will be stopped.

Steve

May 31st, 2012
9:47 am

I’d guess that Romney’s plans for SS and Medicare will be made largely public as we get closer to the elections.

Aquagirl

May 31st, 2012
9:48 am

Obama gets 88% of the black vote? That’s a surprise.

2% less than Al Gore….I’m surprised too.

godless heathen

May 31st, 2012
9:49 am

In today’s political climate this incompetent is still alive ……….

Well he did get OBL.

Paul

May 31st, 2012
9:49 am

Oh, I forgot my morning shout-out.

Went out yesterday and gas had fallen another two cents.

THANK, PRESIDENT OBAMA!

Since he can control gas prices, sending them up and down, I’m wondering why he hasn’t announced he’s going to match Newt’s $1.81 a gallon and go for $1.80 a gallon….

martin the calvinist

May 31st, 2012
9:49 am

one reason why we have an electoral college is to prevent very populous states from dominating and ruling over states with lesser population and to prevent the US from being a pure democracy where the majority rules over the minority w/o regard of their rights. So in 2000, Al Gore winning the popular vote by 540,000 wasn’t a debacle…

Talking Head

May 31st, 2012
9:50 am

If Florida, North Carolina, and Ohio go to Romney…NOBama

josef

May 31st, 2012
9:50 am

JohnnyReb

Kinda makes you stop and think, doesn’t it! The one that tickles the sh*t out of me are the ones who go yapping family values, then cast votes for those with “more wives than the two Mormons combined!”

Ya gotta admit, though, a person of color and a Mormon the two contenders show us Americans can challenge our biases…now if we could just get something in those categories that weren’t mediocre… :-)

Adam

May 31st, 2012
9:51 am

Aquagir;l: Obama gets 88% of the black vote? That’s a surprise.

2% less than Al Gore….I’m surprised too.

OH SNAP.

What’s that? I can’t hear your whining about Blacks on a Plantation over the echo from the racist insinuations you made earlier!

Paul

May 31st, 2012
9:51 am

Morning, Butch

“And what experience does he have in the Non Profit sector?”

Does the Olympics qualify?

Hey josef

Why, the royal queen, of course!

(Like that answers the question – :-) )

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
9:51 am

Adam — “Sorry dude, but the anti-gay marriage ship has sailed as a voting turnout issue. Besides, the NC people forgot that to make that work you have to put it on the SAME ballot as the Presidential one”

Maybe they’ll go with some variation of the Scary Black People method this fall. I still laugh when I think of that panel discussion in 2008 where Eugene Robinson said to a conservative commentator “n****r panic? THAT’S what you’re going with?” :D

Common Sense isn't very Common

May 31st, 2012
9:52 am

josef -

the repubs had Huntsman but wouldn’t vote for him because …….

Adam

May 31st, 2012
9:53 am

JHM: Oh dude, I never heard that one. Is there a clip?

Butch Cassidy

May 31st, 2012
9:53 am

Paul – “Does the Olympics qualify?”

LOL, okay, I will give him credit for the Olympics, but I hardly think it’s a winning strategy for taking the Whitehouse. :)

larry

May 31st, 2012
9:53 am

Okay, my bad. It is candiate. But really, AMERCIA ?

Or is there a hidden agenda ? A-M-E-R-C-I-A.

C-I-A?

Steve

May 31st, 2012
9:55 am

The only two Presidents who had strong “business experience” failed miserably: Hoover and Bush 2.

Running businesses vs managing the government is apples and watermelons.

Mary Elizabeth

May 31st, 2012
9:55 am

Paul, 9:46 am

“It’s not surprising, and as I’ve written, it’s the preponderance those people have in an advisory capacity or are likely to become part of his administration that is the great cause for alarm.”
===============================================

In light of your words, above, Paul, I think you would be interested in reading the content of my 9:14 post on the previous thread this morning.

Common Sense isn't very Common

May 31st, 2012
9:55 am

Butch Cassidy

May 31st, 2012
9:56 am

Steve – “Running businesses vs managing the government is apples and watermelons.”

Tell that to Romney, he thinks that they are one in the same.

Common Sense isn't very Common

May 31st, 2012
9:57 am

I’m not certain but didn’t Romney get a hell of a lot of Federal money for the Olympics?

Dearie

May 31st, 2012
9:57 am

Larry ~ One of Romney’s PR typesetters may have misplaced a letter in America, but according to President Obama there are 7 more states in American than any of us were aware of…..

Recon 0311 2533

May 31st, 2012
9:57 am

For now I’ll only predict a very close election. September will show more predictability as to the elections outcome. The electoral map at the point is meaningless.

larry

May 31st, 2012
9:57 am

candidate. Slow down typing …………….. dang!

Talking Head

May 31st, 2012
9:58 am

“I’m not certain but didn’t Romney get a hell of a lot of Federal money for the Olympics?”

A non profit getting federal dollars! Say it ain’t so!

ty webb

May 31st, 2012
9:58 am

“Okay, my bad. It is candiate. But really, AMERCIA ?”

“candiate”? you should’ve stopped while you were behind. A good rule to live by is to simply not point out others’ misspellings, cause it happens to all of us…oh, and Romney probably didn’t type that himself.

Paul

May 31st, 2012
9:58 am

Hi Granny

Texas is putting thru the voter ID thing. Paper ran an article about how prevalent voter fraud is. Used the state’s numbers. Turned out in two years there were 12 cases investigated.

12.

In two years.

Reporters asked the state’s Republican leadership why such a number warranted the massive legislative and monetary effort.

If only my Republican state leaders were as concerned with preventing problems from becoming big problems when it comes to education, child nutrition, job training….

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
9:58 am

Adam — “JHM: Oh dude, I never heard that one. Is there a clip?”

I don’t know; I’ve never looked. It was on CNBC and there was a lot of crosstalk (and I’m hearing impaired) but it was pretty clear to me and my wife what he said. We couldn’t believe it, and I wish I had Tivo-d it.

Butch Cassidy

May 31st, 2012
9:59 am

Common Sense – “I’m not certain but didn’t Romney get a hell of a lot of Federal money for the Olympics?”

Gosh I hope not. That would really put a damper on that whole “self reliance” thingy. I was under the impression that Mitt paid for the Olympics out of his own pocket. ;)

JohnnyReb

May 31st, 2012
9:59 am

greetings and best wishes josef

I really think the voting will come down not so much on the economy or social issues. While those and others are extremely important, especially to those most affected, I think voting will be for the path America will take going forward. There could not be more contrasting choices. I am a little disappointed in Mitt not making that point; pehaps he will later.

Paul

May 31st, 2012
9:59 am

Thanks, Mary Elizabeth
Going there now.

josef

May 31st, 2012
10:00 am

larry

Oh, you’re just being silly…not that there’s anything wrong with that. But did you catch Jeanne Moos on that one…?

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
10:00 am

Steve — “Running businesses vs managing the government is apples and watermelons.”

Indeed. A President must work with Congress to get things done, unlike how a CEO directs the operations of his or her company.

JamVet

May 31st, 2012
10:00 am

Bro and heathen, to your points,

Where’s the breakdown of the Hebe vote?!

If I had to conjecture – Obama 71, Romney 20

In other words, you must be a bookie’s wet dream come true! For your own financial well being, DO NOT go anywhere near the sports book at Caesars…

Butch Cassidy

May 31st, 2012
10:01 am

JohnnyReb – “I am a little disappointed in Mitt not making that point; pehaps he will later.”

He will if he’s consistent. Afterall, all he needs to do is give the Etch a Sketch a good shake.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
10:01 am

C. Sense — “I’m not certain but didn’t Romney get a hell of a lot of Federal money for the Olympics?”

I’m sure the SLOOC got a boatload for security, coming so soon after 9/11 as it did.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

May 31st, 2012
10:01 am

…and Romney probably didn’t type that himself….

But if the video was really made in India, the CIA part really figures… :)

Aquagirl

May 31st, 2012
10:01 am

according to President Obama there are 7 more states in American than any of us were aware of…..

I knew someone would find a point even more lame than n****r panic.

barking frog

May 31st, 2012
10:01 am

The great recession may
have realigned consumer
attitude to shopping
Salvation Army instead
of Walmart, buying used
cars, and drastic downsizing
in housing. If so they may
stay home in November
because they don’t care
anymore.

josef

May 31st, 2012
10:01 am

TY

You beat me to it again! :-)