John Edwards, not guilty and also not innocent
John Edwards is guilty of many things — stupidity, venality, arrogance and a callous cruelty among others — but a jury of his peers has found him not guilty of Count Three in the six-count federal indictment against him.
The jury deadlocked on the remaining five charges, and the judge in the case has declared a mistrial on those counts.
For the time being, at least, the verdict means that Edwards has won his gamble not to admit guilt and to fight the charges against him, which focus on alleged abuse of campaign finance laws. I can’t claim to have followed the case closely enough to have an opinion on the legal outcome, in part because as indicated above, I had already reached a conclusion about the man himself, and it wasn’t good. It was enough to know that the country had dodged a bullet in not elevating him to the vice presidency or higher, and that his reputation was forever ruined.
As Roy Barnes, a former Edwards supporter, put it recently, “There are some people who ought to be taken out from a courthouse, tied to an oak tree and just whipped. I think he fits into that category.”
I’m sure Barnes was speaking figuratively when he said that. At least I think he was.
Maybe.
– Jay Bookman
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Casey Kasem
May 31st, 2012
7:59 pm
Good evening everyone. This is Casey Kasem coming to you with a long distance dedication to one “Towncrier”………..
For all you do, especially those things that we will never know about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD_DyoB4Cjs
Let it out man. Confession will only free you to be the best man you can be.
G Mare 71(PLEASE VOTE NO ON TSPLOST)
May 31st, 2012
8:00 pm
Back to a much earlier post: I just have to say this to ‘Julia.’ It truly sickens & saddens me that you have the same name as my beautiful 1/4 Asian granddaughter.
Tom(Independent-Viet Vet USAF)
May 31st, 2012
8:00 pm
Just to be fair and balanced, hello Willard Mitt Romney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
josef
May 31st, 2012
8:03 pm
CASEY
BOTH
I don’t hate Knee-grows, I just think they ought to stay at their end of the counter…
G-MARE
Did you get the I sent you a few floors down?
Recon 0311 2533
May 31st, 2012
8:03 pm
The Obummer’s lost North Carolina and looks like he’s very likely losing Wisconsin. Peel off Florida along with Ohio and it’s Sayonara.
They BOTH suck
May 31st, 2012
8:04 pm
TC
No one has attempted to silence you. You are only a victim if you want to be a victim.
You came to the table with a “slipper slope”: gay marriage will lead to polygamy BS. Mind you, you have yet to produce any factual data to back up your assertion, but I already knew you couldn’t. So it is ok.
Outside of being called out for it, be my guest. Keep slipping if you like.
Your last post saying you are against homosexuality, gay marriage, etc is much better than that polygamy crap you brought into the debate.
Towncrier
May 31st, 2012
8:05 pm
“Ad hominem? Don’t you have to be homo for that?”
You are apparently out of bullets, josef. And I am fast losing respect for you because you are being childish. I have never disliked you or thought ill of you in my heart because of your homosexuality. I think it’s wrong, but I don’t hate you for it at all. That is your choice. But to impose your choice on me is too much. Gay marriage is at best a state rights issue – not a federal one. That is my beef. I can accept – though I don’t condone it – gay marriage at the state level. But I don’t want that acceptance forced upon me at the federal level. I can always move out of a state to another more in agreement with my views. To rubber stamp this at the federal level is a tyranny of the minority (whose “rights” – or should I say wants – can be “protected” at the state level).
They BOTH suck
May 31st, 2012
8:05 pm
“slippery slope”
That was 3 times I think………
wet wiccan
May 31st, 2012
8:06 pm
Towncrier -
Did you see this story last week? A 40 year old man, father of 6, had an MRI for a kidney stone. They discovered he also had female sex organs.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2149389/Man-goes-hospital-kidney-stone–discovers-hes-woman.html
Factory defect?
JamVet
May 31st, 2012
8:06 pm
Casey, though every single one of those first seven Steely Dan albums were monsters, for me, that debut LP is still the sweetest…
One more for TC…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTt-URVOYos
They BOTH suck
May 31st, 2012
8:07 pm
“That is your choice. But to impose your choice on me is too much.”
A gay person getting married imposes on you?
Wow
How so?
chuck
May 31st, 2012
8:07 pm
TBs, just so you know, there are 188 articles in the past couple of years in the NYT on poygamy. Just sayin’
G Mare 71(PLEASE VOTE NO ON TSPLOST)
May 31st, 2012
8:07 pm
Josef, I will be chuckling about your neighbor’s a$$ for a long time to come – uh, a long…. Oh, never mind.
Peter
May 31st, 2012
8:07 pm
OK chuck. you would vote for a quitter, and I would vote for a guy who would try to straighten out the Bush mess.
By the way he is protecting America better then any Republican has…….He had the balls to get Bin Laden…something the Republican’s FAILED TO DO.
You would vote for a weak person who quit amongst a few issues, and someone who could barely run a slightly populated state that got the most PORK per person in the entire country…. What was it ……$15k of pork per citizen of Alaska…..
You must be a pork loving guy……. not fiscally responsible, but hey you are that guy.
Please the young kids are way more up on all then you think.
You must be like that guy Kyle who writes the GOP blog and states this today……..
The promise to end the 400 toll once the bonds were paid off was just that: a promise by politicians, the kind of pledge that is — or should be assumed to be — made to be broken.
“Mission Accomplished” Dude !
Casey Kasem
May 31st, 2012
8:09 pm
Jamvet
Thanks for the great and most applicable Steely Dan
They BOTH suck
May 31st, 2012
8:10 pm
chuck
And they all have to do with the lack of the right for gays to marry
Just sayn
josef
May 31st, 2012
8:11 pm
TOWNCRIER
You named the weapon, I just accepted the duel…
They BOTH suck
May 31st, 2012
8:13 pm
josef
I think you are “imposing”……
Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)
May 31st, 2012
8:14 pm
“A 40 year old man, father of 6, had an MRI for a kidney stone. They discovered he also had female sex organs”
It’s rare, but not unheard of. I have a cousin who’s daughter was found to be hermaphroditic. She had testes as well as ovaries, but her ovaries were functional and the testes were not…so they were removed.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
May 31st, 2012
8:14 pm
test test test
test test test
Brosephus™
May 31st, 2012
8:14 pm
ANY IDIOT, having read my posts on the topic would actually be able to infer that from what I wrote. Where does that leave you?
That leaves me in front of my computer wondering why I’m even engaged in a discussion with an idiot. Any idiot would be able to articulate their points without someone else having to infer them. Have you had to infer anything I’ve posted? Nope. I’ve been pretty explicit in what I think/say/know.
I knew about Obama’s Indonesia adventures and such because there were two books out that he wrote/co-authored that basically gave a blueprint to how he acted and thought. He sat in the state house in Illinois, so there was a voting record there. He sat in DC in the Senate chambers, so he had a record there. So, you can save the media vetting crap for those who frequent Free Republic, Red State, and other Conservative media outlets that will co-sign that BS with you.
As I stated earlier, any lack of MEDIA stories is not the fault of the media. If the GOP opposition research had done THEIR due dilligence, everything that was reported by SOME MEDIA outlets would have easily been broadcast by all of them if it were really newsworthy.
josef
May 31st, 2012
8:14 pm
GMARE
I sent you this one when you were talking about making Romney prove he isn’t a unicorn…
Oh, and Unmentionable says not to call y’all the Old Ladies club…he says y’all are the Grand Old Dames…he likes the acronym…
Anyway, Mormons, Grand Old Dames and unicorns…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QarofaycN3c
Towncrier
May 31st, 2012
8:14 pm
“Mind you, you have yet to produce any factual data to back up your assertion, but I already knew you couldn’t.”
I said earlier that “Laws against [polygamy] did not exist in the US until the mid 10th century, it is practiced today in a number of cultures and there is plenty of historical precedent for it.” I also said that polygamy laws are no being enforced in Canada and that a suit is in being pressed against laws prohibiting polygamous relationships in Utah: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/12/us/12polygamy.html
Now, do you have something to say besides “slippery slope”?
They BOTH suck
May 31st, 2012
8:14 pm
Midnight Cruiser, uh?
hahahahaha
G Mare 71(PLEASE VOTE NO ON TSPLOST)
May 31st, 2012
8:15 pm
Re John Edwards: yeah, he is a scumbag in the first degree, but he is still easy on the eyes. That is not to say that I would ever vote for him, even for dog catcher, but…. I guess what I am not communicating too well here is that Edwards is in the same camp with Mel Gibson – easy on the eyes but rotten and disgusting at the core.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
May 31st, 2012
8:16 pm
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josef
May 31st, 2012
8:16 pm
And CRIER…
The real difference between me and you is that I’m happy and you’re not. You take yourself too seriously, and I don’t…
Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)
May 31st, 2012
8:17 pm
“until the mid 10th century,”
19th century?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
May 31st, 2012
8:17 pm
Sorry, I did a “test” but the spaces are missing above ………. but you can still figure it out …………
Towncrier
May 31st, 2012
8:17 pm
“Did you see this story last week? A 40 year old man, father of 6, had an MRI for a kidney stone. They discovered he also had female sex organs.”
I saw that and did research on the subject. It is very rare and there are no documented cases of both organs being operative. Genetic mutation that doesn’t really have any bearing on my views.
They BOTH suck
May 31st, 2012
8:18 pm
TC
That article has what to do with gay marriage and it leading to polygamy?
yes you continue down that “slope”
Do you have the factual data that says gay marriage leads to the other?
Canada not enforcing polygamy has exactly what to do with gay marriage?
Come on dude………. You can do better than this, right?
Towncrier
May 31st, 2012
8:18 pm
“19th century?”
Yes, lol. I never claimed I was a good typist and since we can’t edit what we post…
Recon 0311 2533
May 31st, 2012
8:19 pm
Towncrier@8:05,
Therein lies the problem. The homosexual community wants their sexual lifestyle to be considered normal. It’s not normal, however, the left uses this as an issue to garner another voting block. Homosexuals are a small voting block by themselves but the left gets a multiplier by enlisting their sympathizers and creating a cause. The left uses a cause mentality to expand its otherwise narrow message. The majority of Americans do not want their children brain washed into believing that homosexuality is a normal lifestyle that should be socially acceptable.
chuck
May 31st, 2012
8:21 pm
Broron, opposition research that goes UNREPORTED, by the mainstream media BECAUSE THEY ARE SHILLING FOR OBAMA doesn’t do much in the way of informing the public. Not to mention the fact that the PRESS IS SUPPOSED TO BE UNBIASED. Opposition research is by definition, BIASED. I guess that’s all I can expect from someone who gets all of their news from moveon.org.
Get a clue dufus.
They BOTH suck
May 31st, 2012
8:23 pm
“It’s not normal”
Defined by whom? Your God?
Homosexual activity takes place in good ole mother nature, not just with humans. But you knew that already, so just sayn
There are so many veils on tonight, one would think we are at a Moroccan restaurant and about to see some belly dancers. I just don’t want to see the bellies of the ones with veils on at this location
Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)
May 31st, 2012
8:24 pm
“The homosexual community wants their sexual lifestyle to be considered normal”
got proof of that? Marriage has little to nothing to do with sexual lifestyle…whether homosexual or heterosexual.
Towncrier
May 31st, 2012
8:24 pm
“That article has what to do with gay marriage and it leading to polygamy?Come on dude…You can do better than this, right?”
Huh? I guess not for you. You just aren’t getting it. My argument is that the acceptance of gay marriage can logically lead to the acceptance of polygamy. Why not? Instead of deflecting in every one of you posts, why don’t you for ONCE present a logical argument why it won’t do so. I know the arguments liberals have made and you seem unaware of any of them. Tell you what…when you man up and can present a reasoned response, let me know. Until then, speak to the hand.
Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)
May 31st, 2012
8:26 pm
“My argument is that the acceptance of gay marriage can logically lead to the acceptance of polygamy. ”
Why should it? The two have nothing to do with each other.
G Mare 71(PLEASE VOTE NO ON TSPLOST)
May 31st, 2012
8:27 pm
Josef, I probably did, but please send it again. I am OLD ya know. (Not to mention that “I drinks a bit.”)
They BOTH suck
May 31st, 2012
8:27 pm
TC
Already told you……. You have nothing accept your opinion. That is fine but it isn’t evidence.
What country that has legalized gay marriage has then accepted polygamy derived from the gay marriage ruling?
Should be a quick google for you
You made the assertion and you can’t back it up. that is not on me…….
chuck
May 31st, 2012
8:27 pm
Recon, an interesting fact to me is that consistently, polls show a majority of Americans (59% or so) don’t have a problem with gay marriage, but in ALL 38 states where it has gone on the ballot, it has been voted down. Do you think that the social pressure to conform to leftist ideals is intense? In a public “poll” people say one thing, but in a secret ballot, they do the opposite. Either that, or they only poll people in NY and Cali.
Towncrier
May 31st, 2012
8:28 pm
“Therein lies the problem. The homosexual community wants their sexual lifestyle to be considered normal. It’s not normal, however, the left uses this as an issue to garner another voting block. Homosexuals are a small voting block by themselves but the left gets a multiplier by enlisting their sympathizers and creating a cause. The left uses a cause mentality to expand its otherwise narrow message. The majority of Americans do not want their children brain washed into believing that homosexuality is a normal lifestyle that should be socially acceptable.”
I agree for the most part Recon. Take a look up at page 4 or 5 to see my original post. These guys seem to think “we want to redefine marriage in this way to accommodate us, but the heck with anyone else who might also desire an unconventional marriage (such as a polygamist).” And on what grounds? Moral? Logical? I waiting to hear…
Soothsayer
May 31st, 2012
8:29 pm
I want my lack of sexual lifestyle to be considered normal.
josef
May 31st, 2012
8:29 pm
BOTH
I think I know what it is they’re really worried about. They’re afraid that piece they knocked off in secret will come into court and say “He promised me marriage…” Breach of contract, I think it’s called…
They BOTH suck
May 31st, 2012
8:30 pm
And to all a good night
Not too much gay bashing……. Some of you will be hitting yourself square on the head
peace
Recon 0311 2533
May 31st, 2012
8:31 pm
chuck, the only polls that mean anything are the ones where citizens go and vote. As you correctly pointed out when homosexual same sex marriage is up for a vote the majority in this country says no.
They BOTH suck
May 31st, 2012
8:31 pm
josef
have a great night……. As always, on this issue, you know I have your back. 1000%…. yes 1000
Towncrier
May 31st, 2012
8:31 pm
“What country that has legalized gay marriage has then accepted polygamy derived from the gay marriage ruling?”
In what country was gay marriage legal 100 years ago. Should be a quick Google search. I await your answer. Then tell me how YOU know that polygamy will not also become legal in the US in the future.
Soothsayer
May 31st, 2012
8:34 pm
Jay, if you’re out there listening, can we have some climate change or contraceptives or FairTax? Heck, even something about Catholics. Anything other than this dreadful subject.
And, can we have a week off from gay marriage?
Towncrier
May 31st, 2012
8:35 pm
“Why should it? The two have nothing to do with each other.”
Um….they both represent departures from the traditional (implied) “definition” of marriage. Make gay marriage legal is a HUGE departure from historical and moral norms in this country. Once you have redefined marriage once, it is a lot easier to do it the next time. I guess you don’t get that…
Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)
May 31st, 2012
8:35 pm
“In what country was gay marriage legal 100 years ago”
Couldn’t find a country that has gone from gay marriage to polygamy, huh?
Recon 0311 2533
May 31st, 2012
8:36 pm
If polygamists and those who practice other perverted lifestyles like beastality ever represent a viable voting block you can be certain the left will champion their cause.
josef
May 31st, 2012
8:37 pm
GMARE
Scroll up here to 8:14
BOTH
You’ve got my what?
Brosephus™
May 31st, 2012
8:37 pm
Broron, opposition research that goes UNREPORTED, by the mainstream media BECAUSE THEY ARE SHILLING FOR OBAMA doesn’t do much in the way of informing the public.
Namecalling… First sign that you’ve lost the debate. However, I’ll continue to spar with you just because I feel like having a bit of fun tonight….
The GOP has their own media outlets that have more effect on the national dialogue than all the “liberal” media combined. I guess you forget how quickly the national dialogue shifted from “Jobs, jobs, jobs” to “we’re drowning in debt” in 2010-2011. That was not because of some Democratic push, that was all GOP.
The whole myth of media bias is nothing but a ploy for conservatives to gain more tv and radio time to push their agenda. The fact that one can separate conservative media outlets from “mainstream media” while claiming the highest ratings should be a clue to someone with common sense that something’s amiss. However, those who feed on rhetoric can’t make the connection.
Not to mention the fact that the PRESS IS SUPPOSED TO BE UNBIASED.
And where did you get that little nugget from? The Press is supposed to report. You can’t even post here without bias, so why would you expect anybody else to write or report something without bias? There is bias everywhere, and it’s not going away. When you rely on opinionators to give you your “news”, you end up thinking just as you do. Opposition research is indeed bias, so I’m glad that you have at least one working brain cell. That said, if it’s newsworthy, whether it’s biased or not, it will get reported.
Funny you resort to the moveon.org comment. I guess that one brain cell has narcoleptic and fell asleep on you right at a very key moment. I won’t lower myself to your level and call you a name. I do have a level of self-esteem.
JamVet
May 31st, 2012
8:38 pm
My argument is that the acceptance of gay marriage can logically lead to the acceptance of polygamy.
Logically?
It is pure sociological nonsense. That would be laughed out of any and every scientific study.
Along that line, sometimes a couple of ex-marine here tries to equate homosexuality with incest or pedophilia, which is also an completely insane proposition.
They read like some sort of sophist and demented Sexual Domino Theories…
Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)
May 31st, 2012
8:38 pm
“Um….they both represent departures from the traditional (implied) “definition” of marriage.”
Traditional where? Polygamy is VASTLY older than “traditional” marriage. I refer you to the Bible for proof of that.
josef
May 31st, 2012
8:39 pm
SOOTH
@ 8:29
From the sounds of some here ’bouts, I think it probably IS normal…
Soothsayer
May 31st, 2012
8:39 pm
George W. Bush and his lover Republican Senator Larry Craig emerge triumphantly after a successful tryst in a Congressional bathroom stall. Hey! Don’t ask me. I just report ‘em.
Fair's fair
May 31st, 2012
8:41 pm
Lets legalize polygamy too
josef
May 31st, 2012
8:42 pm
ZamVet
Kinda interesting to hear the “serial monogamists” talking about homosexuality leading to polygamy…
What was that Imam said about the Get Out of Leviticus Free Card…best one liner I have ev-uh heard for it…
Towncrier
May 31st, 2012
8:43 pm
““In what country was gay marriage legal 100 years ago”
“Couldn’t find a country that has gone from gay marriage to polygamy, huh?”
Let’s trace through your lack of reasoning here. Gay marriage was not legal anywhere I know 100 years ago. If you had made the claim that gay marriage would never be legalized back then (because there was no country that had allowed it), how right would you have been? But now, you want to claim that because it hasn’t happened yet, it won’t. Do you respect the lessons history might teach us?
josef
May 31st, 2012
8:43 pm
AmVet
Oh, yes, zayinIM alert tonight…
Towncrier
May 31st, 2012
8:44 pm
“Traditional where? Polygamy is VASTLY older than “traditional” marriage. I refer you to the Bible for proof of that.”
Not in the US (unless you are speaking of before the mid 19th century). Is there another country that matters to you in this debate?
Fair's fair
May 31st, 2012
8:45 pm
If gender doesn’t matter, why does the number matter?
If gender doesn’t matter, why does species matter?
Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)
May 31st, 2012
8:45 pm
“But now, you want to claim that because it hasn’t happened yet, it won’t. Do you respect the lessons history might teach us?”
But I didn’t say polygamy would never be legalized. I said it has nothing to do with gay marriage. In fact, I think it’s quite likely that it WILL be recognized someday…whether gay marriage is nor not.
Towncrier
May 31st, 2012
8:46 pm
“It is pure sociological nonsense. That would be laughed out of any and every scientific study.”
So says you? Refute me, PLEASE!!!
josef
May 31st, 2012
8:47 pm
Where was homosexual marriage legal 100 years ago? Not sure, but a couple of hundred years ago it was legal in the Cherokee, Creek, Choctaw, Seminole, and oh, yes, even them bad a33 miltarists, the Chickasaw nations…of course, they’ve since become “civilized…”
And, know what, machismos, they advised the women when to send the men off to the warpath…
Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)
May 31st, 2012
8:47 pm
“Not in the US (unless you are speaking of before the mid 19th century). Is there another country that matters to you in this debate?”
You were the one that invoked “traditional” marriage. Polygamy IS a “traditional” marriage form. It does, in fact, exist here – even though it’s not legal. Ever watched “Sister Wives”? That’s on TV, in case you didn’t know.
They BOTH suck
May 31st, 2012
8:48 pm
TC
You made an assertion……….. Back it up.
When you back up with FACT your original post then we will play
Otherwise, try your bigoted @ss weak arguments with someone else
You are playing the games that pundits play……… Well I don’t play them. Can’t answer an assertion so twist the argument to the person who made the challenge.
Pretty simplistic and I know you are smarter than that to think I was going to fall for it
You are also welcome to bring up the guys from your church who were “healed” or whatever it is you said occurred with them in terms of them going “straight”
hahahahahaa
And know I say my good night to all…….. for real this time
Towncrier
May 31st, 2012
8:49 pm
“But I didn’t say polygamy would never be legalized. I said it has nothing to do with gay marriage. In fact, I think it’s quite likely that it WILL be recognized someday…whether gay marriage is nor not.”
Well, then, you are on a different page then all the others arguing with me. I disagree that is has nothing to do gay marriage, since precedent is a weighty factor in US legal decisions.
Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)
May 31st, 2012
8:49 pm
“If gender doesn’t matter, why does species matter?”
What part of CONSENTING ADULTS don’t you understand?
Fair's fair
May 31st, 2012
8:49 pm
Saudi Arabia is ahead of and more liberal than America
They allow polygamy
josef
May 31st, 2012
8:50 pm
The Bible, eh…how can I resist posting this one again…
*************
Why Can’t I Own a Canadian?
October 2002
Dr. Laura Schlessinger is a radio personality who dispenses advice to people who call in to her radio show. Recently, she said that, as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22 and cannot be condoned under any circumstance. The following is an open letter to Dr. Laura penned by a east coast resident, which was posted on the Internet. It’s funny, as well as informative:
Dear Dr. Laura:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them:
When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness – Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?
I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination – Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this?
Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? – Lev.24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.
Your devoted fan,
Jim
They BOTH suck
May 31st, 2012
8:50 pm
“and now”, but I do know………… Nite
Come back more often TC……… It has been fun
Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)
May 31st, 2012
8:51 pm
“I disagree that is has nothing to do gay marriage, since precedent is a weighty factor in US legal decisions”
Then show how they are related? HOW will gay marriage lead directly to polygamy?
Fair's fair
May 31st, 2012
8:51 pm
Even liberal polygamy tolerating Saudi Arabia doesn’t allow gay marriage
Go figure
JamVet
May 31st, 2012
8:51 pm
TC, your made up illogical “argument’ is just that.
Of course, I’ll refute you.
Point me to the credible scientific studies, anywhere, at any time, that confirm, corroborate, bolster or even remotely broach your “argument” that that the acceptance of gay marriage can lead to the acceptance of polygamy.
You seem so c0cksure (LOL) of your “argument” that there must be dozens of them, right?
OK, how about one?
Take your time,..
Recon 0311 2533
May 31st, 2012
8:52 pm
Even though countless lives have been lost and billions of dollars spent on homosexual behavior that’s spread aid’s, hepatitis C and other STD’s we can’t place blame on homosexuals. The blame must be placed on left wing politics that champions and enables their behavior solely for political gain.
Love T.K.O.
May 31st, 2012
8:53 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgSo27rUIik&feature=relmfu
Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)
May 31st, 2012
8:54 pm
“Even liberal polygamy tolerating Saudi Arabia doesn’t allow gay marriage
Go figure”
So gay marriage will lead to polygamy, but polygamy cannot lead to gay marriage?
They BOTH suck
May 31st, 2012
8:54 pm
well I guess I was up for one more post
Me thinks someone needs to put the bottle down
Their Jesus would not be a pleased man…………………
Now I am 3 and out for sure
give them hell Jam
Fair's fair
May 31st, 2012
8:55 pm
Why do we have prudish clothing indecency laws
In Europe you can go to naked beaches
The US is F’d up
Towncrier
May 31st, 2012
8:55 pm
You were the one that invoked “traditional” marriage. Polygamy IS a “traditional” marriage form. It does, in fact, exist here – even though it’s not legal. Ever watched “Sister Wives”? That’s on TV, in case you didn’t know.
If you read through my posts, you will see I cite history as a one reason polygamy may well be legalized. It was not illegal in the US until the mid 19th century.
Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)
May 31st, 2012
8:56 pm
“Even though countless lives have been lost and billions of dollars spent on homosexual behavior that’s spread aid’s, hepatitis C and other STD’s we can’t place blame on homosexuals”
Are you really contending that heterosexuals NEVER, EVER, not EVER get any of those diseases?
Really?
Fair's fair
May 31st, 2012
8:56 pm
“So gay marriage will lead to polygamy”
I didn’t say that…..
josef
May 31st, 2012
8:57 pm
FAIR
But those burkhas are so, declasees…
Recon 0311 2533
May 31st, 2012
8:57 pm
Indian lore conflicts with documented human behavior that transcends myths.
Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)
May 31st, 2012
8:57 pm
“If you read through my posts, you will see I cite history as a one reason polygamy may well be legalized. It was not illegal in the US until the mid 19th century”
Still dodging the question as to how gay marriage will lead to polygamy I see.
Towncrier
May 31st, 2012
8:57 pm
“Point me to the credible scientific studies, anywhere, at any time, that confirm, corroborate, bolster or even remotely broach your “argument” that that the acceptance of gay marriage can lead to the acceptance of polygamy.”
What does science have to do with it? I mean, really??? We are talking about the legalization of polygamy!!! Do you understand the concept of a legal precedent? Read up on one being used now: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/12/us/12polygamy.html
Fair's fair
May 31st, 2012
8:58 pm
American prudes
My neighbor should be able to marry her crazy cats if she wants
JamVet
May 31st, 2012
8:58 pm
jonix, zayin indeed. THAT is the real perversion…
That and those that Thomas Jefferson referred to when he spoke of how he was not impressed that God does not lie, because the Bible and the men who use it do…
Fair's fair
May 31st, 2012
8:59 pm
Josef, that is a big word with which i am not familiar
josef
May 31st, 2012
8:59 pm
D*mn…some of the straights here know more about homosexuality than I do…I guess they’ve just been practicing longer…staying up late nights studying…
Fair's fair
May 31st, 2012
9:00 pm
Harems for everyone!
Except the looooosers of course
Towncrier
May 31st, 2012
9:00 pm
“Still dodging the question as to how gay marriage will lead to polygamy I see.”
Geez….can you guys read? A SCOTUS ruling establishing that gay marriage is constitutional establishes a precedent for ruling polygamy to be so as well. Do I have to spell everything out for you guys? Geez!!!
They BOTH suck
May 31st, 2012
9:01 pm
$hit I haven’t left yet
Josef @ 8:59
I think that is why Casey dedicated “Midnight Cruiser”
Fair's fair
May 31st, 2012
9:01 pm
If gay people can marry each other, surely I should be able to drive a measly 100 MPH
What’s with our stupid speed limits?
josef
May 31st, 2012
9:02 pm
Aw, and I thought you didn’t read my posts Is that another of those things you say you don’t do but do do
..heh, heh…wanna mud wrestle…?
josef
May 31st, 2012
9:03 pm
BOTH
Stick around! The zayin in chief is sniffing around…could be fun…
weetamoe
May 31st, 2012
9:03 pm
As usual, it didn’t take but a mo for the –well what about David Vitter?—. I dislike Edwards but not nearly as much as I dislike federal prosecutors. During his quite unconvincing mea culpa in front of the courthouse Edwards claimed God has more for him to do. Prelude to a comeback and another power grab, most likely. Since he refused a plea deal which would have cost him his law license, he is still qualified to practice. Something Bill Clinton had to forfeit.