John Edwards, not guilty and also not innocent

John Edwards is guilty of many things — stupidity, venality, arrogance and a callous cruelty among others — but a jury of his peers has found him not guilty of Count Three in the six-count federal indictment against him.

The jury deadlocked on the remaining five charges, and the judge in the case has declared a mistrial on those counts.

For the time being, at least, the verdict means that Edwards has won his gamble not to admit guilt and to fight the charges against him, which focus on alleged abuse of campaign finance laws. I can’t claim to have followed the case closely enough to have an opinion on the legal outcome, in part because as indicated above, I had already reached a conclusion about the man himself, and it wasn’t good. It was enough to know that the country had dodged a bullet in not elevating him to the vice presidency or higher, and that his reputation was forever ruined.

As Roy Barnes, a former Edwards supporter, put it recently, “There are some people who ought to be taken out from a courthouse, tied to an oak tree and just whipped. I think he fits into that category.”

I’m sure Barnes was speaking figuratively when he said that. At least I think he was.

Maybe.

– Jay Bookman

698 comments Add your comment

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
4:48 pm

He surely is guilty of being a SCUMBAG…….

Whether or not that makes him guilty of break any laws is another story

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
4:50 pm

“breaking”…………

jm

May 31st, 2012
4:52 pm

If he’s like Democrat Eliot Spitzer, he’ll be a TV show host making bank shortly.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
4:53 pm

Does anyone know the likelihood of a retrial on the deadlocked issues?

Real Scootter

May 31st, 2012
4:53 pm

So what happens now? jail time,fine or what?

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
4:53 pm

Jm

Why no mention of Oliver North or G Gordon Liddy?

Just sayn…….

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
4:54 pm

jm — “If he’s like Democrat Eliot Spitzer, he’ll be a TV show host making bank shortly.”

I doubt that. Spitzer just consorted with hookers. Edwards has done considerably more objectionable things than that.

kayaker 71

May 31st, 2012
4:55 pm

What was count three all about?

Steve

May 31st, 2012
4:57 pm

Vitter consorted with hookers and is STILL in office. But Republicans seem to get off the hook for things like that.

Grasshopper

May 31st, 2012
4:58 pm

John Edwards is dreamy…

Peter

May 31st, 2012
4:58 pm

jm ……. Really. as bad as the GOP guy wanting to play with men in the airport bathroom ?

barking frog

May 31st, 2012
4:58 pm

Ol Roy feels betrayed…
Edwards is not done yet.

kayaker 71

May 31st, 2012
5:01 pm

So “dreamy” John got off by the skin of his liberal arse. It is a shame that some of the doctors that he sued didn’t suffer the same fate. This skank has no morals and no conscience…. you liberals should be proud of one of your own.

JamVet

May 31st, 2012
5:01 pm

Count 1: Conspiracy (maximum 5-year sentence)

Edwards, a former U.S. senator from North Carolina, is accused of conspiring to receive and conceal contributions in excess of the allowed limits from Rachel “Bunny” Mellon and Fred Baron, a now-deceased Texas lawyer who was Edwards’ finance chairman. Under the Federal Election Campaign Act, the most an individual could contribute to any candidate in 2008 was $2,300 in the primary election and $2,300 in the general election.

Prosecutors argued that Edwards, while a candidate for federal office, accepted $725,000 from Mellon and more than $200,000 from Baron. Counts 2-5 reflect that accusation.

Count 2: Illegal campaign contributions (maximum 5-year sentence)

Edwards is accused of receiving contributions from Mellon in excess of federal limits in 2007.

Count 3: Illegal campaign contributions (maximum 5-year sentence)

Edwards is accused of receiving contributions from Mellon in excess of of federal limits in 2008.

Count 4: Illegal campaign contributions (maximum 5-year sentence)

Edwards is accused of receiving contributions from Baron in excess of federal limits in 2007.

Count 5: Illegal campaign contributions (maximum 5-year sentence)

Edwards is accused of receiving contributions from Baron in excess of of federal limits in 2008.

Count 6: False statements (maximum 5-year sentence)

Edwards is accused of hiding from his presidential committee the hundreds of thousands of dollars in contributions from Mellon and Baron, causing that committee to create and submit inaccurate campaign finance reports to the Federal Election Commission.

josef

May 31st, 2012
5:01 pm

Well, now we can roast straight folks and Democrats at the same time…and who says the Imam ain’t EOI?

And will wonders never cease, I actually agree with Barnes on something…

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
5:02 pm

kayaker

Come on now. Not sure how many “liberals” on this board have run to the defense of Edwards. No different than you have run to the defense of Republican scumbags.

Scumbags come in all political stripes

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
5:03 pm

Steve — “Vitter consorted with hookers and is STILL in office. But Republicans seem to get off the hook for things like that.”

I knowit. My wife calls Vitter “Diaper Dave.” But then she’s not as good-natured or as charitable as I am. :D

JamVet

May 31st, 2012
5:03 pm

71, this one?

In 1984 Edwards was assigned to a medical malpractice lawsuit that had been perceived to be unwinnable; the firm had only accepted it as a favor to an attorney and state senator who did not want to keep it. Nevertheless, Edwards won a $3.7 million verdict on behalf of his client, who had suffered permanent brain and nerve damage after a doctor prescribed an overdose of the anti-alcoholism drug Antabuse during alcohol aversion therapy.

josef

May 31st, 2012
5:03 pm

KAYAKER

Given your profession, for a change I think you’re being rather kind on Eddie… :-)

Recon 0311 2533

May 31st, 2012
5:04 pm

Edwards will get judgment someday. I didn’t follow this case all that closely either but thought I understood that count 3 was the strongest count against Edwards that was presented. If that’ true it seems strange that the jury would find him not guilty on count 3 but deadlock on the other 5 weaker counts. It would seem that they would have found him not guilty on all counts.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
5:06 pm

K71 — “This skank has no morals and no conscience…. you liberals should be proud of one of your own.”

Many liberals on this board have repudiated Edwards and I think you know it.

Your choice is clear; either berate us and lower yourself to Edwards’ level, or behave in an adult fashion and rise above it. I wonder which you will choose?

Peter

May 31st, 2012
5:06 pm

Edwards will get judgment someday.. Really ? Where and When ?

Peter

May 31st, 2012
5:07 pm

K71 — “This skank has no morals and no conscience…. you liberals should be proud of one of your own.”

Yes…… and all of us should Judge him like a good little christian we all pretend to be !

JamVet

May 31st, 2012
5:09 pm

Or this one?

The biggest case of his legal career was a 1996 product liability lawsuit against Sta-Rite, the manufacturer of a defective pool drain cover. The case involved Valerie Lakey, a three-year-old girl who was disemboweled by the suction power of the pool drain pump when she sat on an open pool drain whose protective cover had been removed by other children at the pool, after the swim club had failed to install the cover properly. Despite 12 prior suits with similar claims, Sta-Rite continued to make and sell drain covers lacking warnings. Sta-Rite protested that an additional warning would have made no difference because the pool owners already knew the importance of keeping the cover secured.

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
5:09 pm

Peter

Not sure if Kayaker is a Christian. At least he hasn’t expressed it when I have been on this blog. That might be painting with a broader brush than you think

Paul

May 31st, 2012
5:09 pm

I can understand the verdict.

I can also understand the gratitude expressed that he was never VP.

Karma will play out.

Sheets?

josef

May 31st, 2012
5:11 pm

BOTH

Peter is a fan of Gaugin….

…and as for Kayaker, we’ve tangled a lot, but it’s never had a religious tone of any sort…

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
5:11 pm

I’m out — all be well and drive safely.

josef

May 31st, 2012
5:12 pm

PAUL (and Doggone when you check in)

Was catching up on y’all’s exchange downstairs when we got the sheets…excellent on both counts…

Steve

May 31st, 2012
5:12 pm

He will be looked down upon by everyone for the rest of his life, which will be bad enough. I’m not sure if he has any remorse though as he seems sociopathic to me.

Common Sense isn't very Common

May 31st, 2012
5:13 pm

Since I am currently living in NC it has been pretty much all Edwards on a daily basis for months.

I think the DA started to lose the case when they limited testimony of the election board (that was favorable to Edwards).

Yes he is a total scumbag but I think this was somewhat of a witch hunt.

No better and no worse than the witch hunt for Clinton.

Peter

May 31st, 2012
5:14 pm

Why because he got caught is there an issue ? Look at McCain for gosh sakes.

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 31st, 2012
5:14 pm

Thanks Josef!

Matti

May 31st, 2012
5:14 pm

Mr. Bookman,

Am I correct in my understanding that someone can shovel millions of dollars to a Super PAC –anonymously– and the Super PAC’s handlers can spend that money pretty much any which way they want to? No questions answered?

If so, doesn’t it seem like John Edwards is being singled out for prosecution because people think he’s a scum? How many times are these particular charges investigated or prosecuted in any given decade?

Not a fan of his self-indulgent personal decisions that hurt the wonderful woman who married him and removed him as an effective advocate for America’s (now mostly voiceless) poor, but then (a) this behavior is in no way unique to John Edwards or Democratic Presidential candidates, and (b) someone else’s marriage is none of my business.

Thulsa Doom

May 31st, 2012
5:15 pm

I saw a funny story this morning that Obama flys in his barber every 2 weeks to cut his hair. Damn the carbon footprint! The presidents hair is impodent it is.

It reminded me of that ridiculous piece where Edwards was primping in the mirror for a couple of minutes. Edwards had the $400 haircut. To be fair Clinton only had that cheap $200 haircut.

What is it with these liberal, out of touch elitists?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18157456/ns/politics-decision_08/t/edwards-haircuts-cost-pretty-penny/

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_n25_v9/ai_13925502/

Paul

May 31st, 2012
5:15 pm

josef

Thanks.

Given the current topic, can you imagine Doggone/GA with a law degree going up against John Edwards? Yowza!

kayaker 71

May 31st, 2012
5:15 pm

JamVet, 5:03,

That’s just one of them. Think they are all like that? Edwards was singly responsible for the soaring malpractice insurance premiums for neurosurgeons, OB and pediatrics in NC. He was the recipient of 50 verdicts in excess of 1M dollars. 31 of these cases were malpractice cases. In one of the worst, in which his client was awarded 23M dollars for convincing a jury that a baby born with cerebral palsy suffered oxygen loss at delivery, he dramatized the case by playing the baby in front of the jury, speaking in baby language to dramatize the event. He is a despicable ambulance chasing jerk who made most of his money at the expense of mostly well meaning physicians.

jm

May 31st, 2012
5:15 pm

“Why no mention of Oliver North or G Gordon Liddy?”

Were they on a major news network with an hour-long show for a few years?

What’d I miss?

jm

May 31st, 2012
5:16 pm

“as bad as the GOP guy wanting to play with men in the airport bathroom ?”

liberal homophobia

Thulsa Doom

May 31st, 2012
5:16 pm

If Edwards goes to prison will he be able to fly in his barber to give him $400 haircuts?

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
5:17 pm

josef

That is why I mentioned it. Kayaker and I have went back and forth a few times, however I’ve never sensed a religious aspect to his views.

I didn’t want him painted in a way that that could be untrue.

pogo

May 31st, 2012
5:17 pm

But the liberals were “this close” to choosing this guy as being their guy. This explains how Obama got elected, doesn’t it? This is what happens when the press and the people fawn over the image of a candidate and don’t lgive a critical eye to the real person and what they are all about. And to this day, we still don’t know what Obama is all about. Obama’s campaign is in deep, deep do-do. He has a bunch of young, over educated and spoiled ideologues running it who cannot see the forest for the trees. Useful idiots if you will. After what happened in Boston, Axlerod and Obama must be panicking. Even the good Governor of that state had to stick with Romney and Bain.

Win or lose, I cannot wait until the Wisconsin Governor’s recall election next Tuesday. That will be a referendum on what the American people believe about the Obama administrations way of doing business (funneling public dollars to unions and special interests). If Walker stays in Wisconsin, Obama better start packing.

Peter

May 31st, 2012
5:18 pm

He is a despicable ambulance chasing jerk who made most of his money at the expense of mostly well meaning physicians.

Wow did you read all the verdicts, and each note during those trials ?

Or are you just ASSUMING ?

jm

May 31st, 2012
5:18 pm

my 5:15 – oh yeah, prime time too :)

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 31st, 2012
5:18 pm

“I saw a funny story this morning that Obama flys in his barber every 2 weeks to cut his hair.”

I read somewhere once that Madonna has a hairdresser come in EVERY DAY to touch up her roots.

jm

May 31st, 2012
5:19 pm

liberal media failing to do due diligence on a democrat politician. again.

does the liberal media take its job seriously? /rhetorical q/ – nope

Peter

May 31st, 2012
5:19 pm

But the liberals were “this close” to choosing this guy as being their guy. This explains how Obama got elected, doesn’t it?

How did Bush get elected then ? Oh the highest court leaning right at the time appointed him……..that’s right !

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
5:19 pm

“Were they on a major news network with an hour-long show for a few years?

What’d I miss?”

With you very well knowing that both of the indivduals I mentioned having been media figures then you could have saved yourself a post. That was weak as it gets, even from you, and you can be pretty weak a good percentage of the time.

Get you a being helping of “selective condemnation”………… It goes well on anything

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 31st, 2012
5:19 pm

“Given the current topic, can you imagine Doggone/GA with a law degree going up against John Edwards? Yowza!”

I’m not sure I’d make a good lawyer. I’ve been told I’m too logical! Of course, I’ve also been told I’m too blunt.

jm

May 31st, 2012
5:20 pm

obama. free pass. edwards, free pass. kerry, free pass.

Why does the non-media have to do the due diligence on democrat politicians? hmmmm

Peter

May 31st, 2012
5:21 pm

liberal homophobia.

Love it……..when the brain ceases to function…then the name calling persists !

JamVet

May 31st, 2012
5:21 pm

&1, your impassioned, Edwards-like (LOL!) eloquence aside, I believe this is the case you are referring to…

In 1985, Edwards represented a five-year-old child born with cerebral palsy – a child whose mother’s doctor did not choose to perform an immediate Caesarean delivery when a fetal monitor showed she was in distress.

Edwards won a $6.5 million verdict for his client, but five weeks later, the presiding judge sustained the verdict, but overturned the award on grounds that it was “excessive” and that it appeared “to have been given under the influence of passion and prejudice,” adding that in his opinion “the evidence was insufficient to support the verdict.”

He offered the plaintiffs $3.25 million, half of the jury’s award, but the child’s family appealed the case and received $4.25 million in a settlement.

Winning this case established the North Carolina precedent of physician and hospital liability for failing to determine if the patient understood the risks of a particular procedure.

Thulsa Doom

May 31st, 2012
5:22 pm

kayaker,

I don’t think libs want to hear about this ambulance chasing scum and how he made his money. His shenanigans drove up not only malpractice premiums but also insurance premiums. Him and the whole group of scum trial lawyers just like him. Its hard to teach liberals though and make them understand just how scumbags like Edwards affect their lives like this.

jm

May 31st, 2012
5:22 pm

TBS – feel free to point me to their host shows

Spitzer – CNN, In the Arena.

Peter

May 31st, 2012
5:24 pm

That might be painting with a broader brush than you think……..

Not really I am sure all have opinions about the guy, but hey we are all happy Christians making judgment calls…..because that is the Christian thing to do !

Paul

May 31st, 2012
5:25 pm

Doggone/GA

I was thinking ‘tenacious.”

barking frog

May 31st, 2012
5:25 pm

Doggone
I would say too honest.

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
5:25 pm

jm

Cry all you like. After all it is your MO. Jay said this. jay said that.
boo booo

wwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Split all the hairs you like………… They are media figures and just like Spitzer and the best you have is “well they didn’t have an hour show”

hahahahahahaha

You just cried more tears than the recent storm dumped rain on FL

But carry on……… at least you are fairly consistent

josef

May 31st, 2012
5:25 pm

JM

What did you miss? A LOT…those two on the tee vee were something to behold!

PAUL/DOGGONE

Seriously, y’all both made some interesting points/comments…

BOTH

I leave it to Kayaker to state his case, but I seem to recall very early on in one of our tangles over homosexuality, he made the point that he was not religious..

Thulsa

Okay, better get busy defending your fellow ambulance chaser! :-)

.

jose

May 31st, 2012
5:25 pm

John Edwards is a scumbag and guilty of immorality. However, in my opinion, he did not break the law. The payment was to hide his mistress from his wife and family, not from voters and therefore did not break federal election law. The government over reached in this particular case.

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
5:26 pm

Peter

May 31st, 2012
5:26 pm

Its hard to teach liberals though and make them understand just how scumbags like Edwards affect their lives like this.

Dick Cheney…….. Cost Plus contracts ring a bell ? Driving up the deficit.

Thulsa Doom

May 31st, 2012
5:26 pm

“How did Bush get elected then ? Oh the highest court leaning right at the time appointed him……..that’s right !”

Revisionist history aint gonna cut it sir. W won that election fair and square. And what libs refuse to acknowledge is that 6 news organizations( 4 liberal, 2 conservative) went down to Fla a month or 2 later and recounted by hand every vote cast. The results? Not only did W win but he won by a wider margin.

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
5:26 pm

JamVet

May 31st, 2012
5:26 pm

All of these emotion-based, empirically unsubstantiated arguments epithets – are interesting.

Though they offer nothing informative or compelling.

Though they do remind me of the old adage about urinating into the wind…

Thulsa Doom

May 31st, 2012
5:27 pm

Peter,

Liberal icon FDR handed out cost plus contracts during WW2. Does that ring a bell sir?

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
5:27 pm

josef

I hear you. I was just speaking up for him since it appeared he was being hit for something he may not even be

jconservative

May 31st, 2012
5:28 pm

What was missing in this case was prosecutorial discretion.

Peter

May 31st, 2012
5:28 pm

Thulsa Doom. Who won the popular vote then ?

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 31st, 2012
5:28 pm

Well, let’s see…according to some posters here there is no crime…since there is no conviction.

barking frog

May 31st, 2012
5:28 pm

Edwards clients didn’t get
a dime a jury didn’t award.

Peter

May 31st, 2012
5:29 pm

Liberal icon FDR handed out cost plus contracts during WW2. Does that ring a bell sir?

No I was not alive then.. never rang a bell.. what was the deficit under FDR please tell me since you probably know.

Rhett Butler

May 31st, 2012
5:29 pm

Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
5:29 pm

http://talkradioinsiders.com/page/g-gordon-liddy-radio-show/

JM

what else can I assist you with?

A tissue perhaps

Thulsa Doom

May 31st, 2012
5:30 pm

josef,

Ya lost me there sir. Who would my fellow ambulance chaser be?

BTW I about fell out of my chair on your one liner about not coveting your neighbors wife but his ass being a different story.

The Snark

May 31st, 2012
5:30 pm

I must be the oldest guy on this blog, ’cause I remember Spiro Agnew.

josef

May 31st, 2012
5:31 pm

PETER

I’m pretty sure Kayaker is quite familiar with those cases…most medicine men are…mention his name to Unmentionable during the his hay day as the Dem front runner and get an earful…

Really, Kayaker is being somewhat restrained given his temperament and the topic at hand…

Peter

May 31st, 2012
5:32 pm

Is Newt going to get the free pass jm…… or will he have to pay all the millions he owes to his GOP workers, and those he got stuff from ?

Peter

May 31st, 2012
5:33 pm

I’m pretty sure Kayaker is quite familiar with those cases…most medicine men are…

That is an assumption.

Thulsa Doom

May 31st, 2012
5:33 pm

“what was the deficit under FDR please tell me since you probably know.”- Peter

Peter,

You really don’t know? Deficits under FDR were gigantic and among the biggest if not the biggest deficits in U.S. history adjusted for inflation. Your ignorance on this subject is nothing short of astounding.

ragnar danneskjold

May 31st, 2012
5:34 pm

Finally an area where leftists and conservatives can agree. I have never been a fan of Mr. Edwards, but this case should not have been prosecuted. The jury got it right.

josef

May 31st, 2012
5:34 pm

THULSA

Just a throwback to one of our earlier “exchanges” in re your work in insurance…I compared you and your business to such…you didn’t take highly to it! :-)

SNARK

Oh, no you’re not! Nattering nabobs of negativity! :-)

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 31st, 2012
5:34 pm

“I must be the oldest guy on this blog, ’cause I remember Spiro Agnew”

Not by a long shot if that’s as far back as you go. I can remember Eisenhower when he was President.

Soothsayer

May 31st, 2012
5:35 pm

Hey! a little “Bunny Money” is what this whole thing’s all about. So what if she has a “crush” on ol’ John and he cain’t keep his pants zipped? Ain’t reason fur sendin’ a feller to prison, now is it?

Peter

May 31st, 2012
5:35 pm

You really don’t know? Deficits under FDR were gigantic and among the biggest if not the biggest deficits in U.S. history adjusted for inflation. Your ignorance on this subject is nothing short of astounding.

Maybe so I should have know, and for what reason ?……. did he cut taxes as well during that time frame ?

jm

May 31st, 2012
5:36 pm

“Jay said this. jay said that.
boo booo”

TBS – I’m 100% sure I haven’t even mentioned Jay’s name on this blog post. Epic fail.

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
5:36 pm

Jm

You have a great day, now…….

:-)

JamVet

May 31st, 2012
5:37 pm

Spiro Agnew.

Now there was a prime time player in the GOP’s rogues gallery.

Arguably the worst Vice President in modern American history.

Until Richard Bruce Cheney came along.

Then he blew old Spiro out of the water ala Bob Beamon in the 1968 Olympics!

(And for Doomy……… BOOM!)

jm

May 31st, 2012
5:37 pm

“http://talkradioinsiders.com/page/g-gordon-liddy-radio-show/”

I’m sorry. Did I say radio show? I’m 100% sure I said TV show….. more fail from TBS.

Come’on bud.

josef

May 31st, 2012
5:38 pm

PETER

Edwards was the poster boy for that…

Thulsa Doom

May 31st, 2012
5:38 pm

Peter,

Prior to 2009 the 3 largest deficits in U.S. history adjusted for inflation were under FDR.

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
5:38 pm

On this blog…..

Ok, you get a few passes, but you know yourself you have done some crying and moaning numerous times

Just hold tight and keep your usual type posting…….

I will be sure to remind you

“epic fail”?

Sort of like G Gordon Liddy and Oliver North didn’t “host” their own shows?

hahahahahahaha

:-(

jm

May 31st, 2012
5:39 pm

Peter 5:32 – sorry, which TV show does Newt host?

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
5:39 pm

jm

Keep flailing. It is a usual day for you.

Nothing new

Thulsa Doom

May 31st, 2012
5:40 pm

JamVet,

Naw man. You gotta get vertical on the BOOM. Spaces help too. Feel free to use it next time- preferably right after you call someone meat or mystery meat since that one always cracks me up.

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
5:40 pm

“TBS – feel free to point me to their host shows”

“I’m sorry. Did I say radio show? I’m 100% sure I said TV show….. more fail from TBS.

Come’on bud.”

You couldn’t hit yourself if you were trying……..

But keep the laughs coming

:-)

jm

May 31st, 2012
5:41 pm

TBS – you crack me up

Peter

May 31st, 2012
5:41 pm

Thulsa Doom . read up a little about the New Deal and FDR.. ……I guess you forgot to mention the Great Depression he was working against…… Gosh how similar to what is going on today after Bush Jr !

Brosephus™

May 31st, 2012
5:42 pm

I guess the DA couldn’t seal the deal in this case. Had the state of North Carolina passed a bill to retroactively make it illegal to be a scumbag, they would have easily gotten a conviction in this case. However, being a scumbag is not, in itself, illegal. Whether you think or know someone is guilty, when it comes to court proceedings, you have to be able to prove it. In the case of the defense, all they need to do is muddy the waters a bit, and you end up with results such as this.

—————————-

Win or lose, I cannot wait until the Wisconsin Governor’s recall election next Tuesday. That will be a referendum on what the American people believe about the Obama administrations way of doing business (funneling public dollars to unions and special interests).

No, Wisconsin will be a referendum on what the people of Wisconsin think about recalling Walker. That election has nothing to do with Obama or the nation regardless to how either party tries to spin it. I swear, some people can turn a baptism into the political battle of the year. :roll:

—————————-

To those feeding jm the attention he desperately craves, hold yourselves responsible for whatever you create.

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
5:42 pm

Jay

Let Jm edit one of his post, so it appears that he is telling the truth. He doesn’t seem to have the ability to go back and read all of his post before he sticks his foot in his mouth.

But what is new?

:-)