Appeals court overturns federal gay-marriage law

A federal appeals court in Boston has ruled unanimously that the Defense of Marriage Act is unconstitutional, in effect reaching the same conclusion as the Obama Justice Department.

The case is almost certainly destined to be decided by the Supreme Court, a fact the appeals court noted in delaying implementation of its ruling until the Supreme Court gets a shot at it.

The ruling is certainly founded in logic and reason. The court ruled that the federal government cannot confer benefits on those who were married under Georgia law or Kansas law and then deny benefits to those married under Massachusetts law, which allows gay couples to marry.

In one example, federal law allows the spouses of military veterans to be buried alongside them in military cemeteries. But DOMA would deny that right to gay spouses of veterans. The court found that violates both the right of gay Americans to equal protection under the law and violates the authority of states to regulate marriage.

– Jay Bookman

538 comments Add your comment

Keep Up the Good Fight!

May 31st, 2012
11:39 am

Oh the protest we shall hear about activist judges!

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
11:40 am

Heading to an SC near you

SomaAtl95

May 31st, 2012
11:43 am

A win for personal freedoms. Its a shame the so-called “Party of Personal Freedoms” will do everything they can to decry this ruling.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

May 31st, 2012
11:46 am

Posts about zoophilia in 3…2…1….

Brosephus™

May 31st, 2012
11:46 am

This one’s likely to produce a few facepalm worthy posts…

gotta get’em lined up and ready to go… :)

josef

May 31st, 2012
11:46 am

Be still my jerking knee… :-)

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
11:49 am

Bro

Line them up……………….

1. Are you ok with 3 people or more getting married?
2. Are you ok with people marrying animals?
3. Do you know this is not what is in my Bible?

Those a few to get us going

:-)

Adam

May 31st, 2012
11:50 am

Appeals court overturns federal gay-marriage law

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!

B

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!!!!!

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
11:50 am

Josef

I would tell you to keep “jerking”, but that doesn’t sound right

:-)

Adam

May 31st, 2012
11:50 am

1. Are you ok with 3 people or more getting married?
2. Are you ok with people marrying animals?
3. Do you know this is not what is in my Bible?

Damn, beat me to it :D

barking frog

May 31st, 2012
11:51 am

At last a judge has read the
constitution and ruled
appropriately. He won’t last long.

Tom(Independent-Viet Vet USAF)

May 31st, 2012
11:52 am

States should decide what is best for their citizens, not some federal govt (Democrats or Repubs)! Federal govt needs to stay out of our lives!!!!!!!

josef

May 31st, 2012
11:53 am

I’ll refrain from comment until such time as I’ve read and digested the decision. But that it tackles head on the Social Security survivors’ benefits is getting to the heart of the matter, imauo.

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
11:53 am

Tom

Exactly. Let gays marry and be done with it

Thanks for concurring

Peadawg

May 31st, 2012
11:54 am

“Federal govt needs to stay out of our lives!!!!!!!” – I’m glad you agree with the ruling.

jm

May 31st, 2012
11:54 am

ok by me

freedom for all

wish Libs would get on this page for economic issues and social issues that they don’t just happen to be in favor of

Adam

May 31st, 2012
11:54 am

Marriage is a defined legal contract between two people and according to a previous Supreme Court decision, cannot apply to more than two people. Whether or not one is ok with such a thing, to legally enforce a contract with more than two people in such a situation would be a nightmare, if not impossible.

Also, 2 people consists of 2 consenting adults. Toasters, dogs, and fruit salads cannot sign legal contracts as they have no legal standing as a consenting adult.

The Bible has zero standing in legal terms. People have to pretty much agree to a law for it to stand, and it has to not violate the Constitution. For example, one cannot sell their daughter because the Bible says so: Slavery is illegal as ratified in the Constitution.

Hope I got that out of the way early enough this time so I can just link people here when they start bellyaching about those side issues.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

May 31st, 2012
11:55 am

Wow!
Jay saw my post below and decided to make it his subject! :D

Peadawg

May 31st, 2012
11:55 am

“Heading to an SC near you”

^^^this^^^

josef

May 31st, 2012
11:55 am

TOM

Hell, yes! And we can get back to the segregated water fountains and Sue Ellen can have another epiphany… :-)

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
11:56 am

Tom — “States should decide what is best for their citizens, not some federal govt (Democrats or Repubs)! Federal govt needs to stay out of our lives!!!!!!!”

I think that PEOPLE can decide what’s best for themselves.

Explain to me why Federal government shouldn’t be involved in marriage, but state government should, please.

jm

May 31st, 2012
11:58 am

Fewer stupid laws for all. Please.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

May 31st, 2012
11:59 am

OK, good for the courts…Now, on to women’s right to choose…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

May 31st, 2012
11:59 am

I heard that Sue Ellen’s epiphany was truncated.

By Professor Plum, in the conservatory, with a knife.

TGT

May 31st, 2012
11:59 am

Again, I ask: How would you libs discriminate and define marriage?

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
11:59 am

K’Chak — “I heard that Sue Ellen’s epiphany was truncated. By Professor Plum, in the conservatory, with a knife.”

Did you hear the screaming, too?

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
12:00 pm

Bro

Can we get a facepalm please?

Joe the Prophet

May 31st, 2012
12:01 pm

VERY, VERY, VERY interesting……Wonder if they will overturn the Morrill Act of 1862, the Edmunds Act of 1882 and the Edmunds-Tucker Act of 1887…..which outlawed polygamy…..These acts targeted the Church of LDS…….If the defiinition of marriage is handed over to the states, then states can legalize polygamy…..

I’m sure that Senate Leader Reid would be GLAD to bring the bill to a vote….and “President Romney” would be glad to sign it…..!!!!!

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
12:01 pm

TGT — “Again, I ask: How would you libs discriminate and define marriage?”

Oh, we’d permit all manner, variety and permutations of legally semi-permanent relationships between men, women, wee beasties and Coke machines.

:roll:

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

May 31st, 2012
12:02 pm

K’chak,
Heh, I like the sound of that, too…but I digress…at least it wasn’t Professor Plum, in the Conservatory, without a condom…wait! What does Truncate mean again?

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
12:02 pm

Straw man on 11:59…………

Straw man on 11:59

Going to need a clean up once the same person tears it down………….

But please watch the “red herrings” and “slippery slopes” on your way to the straw man clean up on 11:59

josef

May 31st, 2012
12:03 pm

TGT

Oh, I’d say 35+ years in a forsaking all others relationship sharing bed, blankets, bathroom and bankbook would come close…how about you? Do you mean how would we define civil union? Looks like that’s for the courts to decide since the legislative is having such a hard time getting it through their pointy l’il haids…

Erwin's cat

May 31st, 2012
12:03 pm

Adam – “to legally enforce a contract with more than two people in such a situation would be a nightmare, if not impossible….”

??? happens everyday!…hardly a nightmare or impossible

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

May 31st, 2012
12:04 pm

What does Truncate mean again?

To lop off.

josef

May 31st, 2012
12:04 pm

But can a coke machine and a pepsi machine get married…? :-)

Jefferson

May 31st, 2012
12:04 pm

Problem with states rights deal is you end up with backassward states like GA. I’m an American 1st, Georgian 2nd. The folks who can fix the problems with state gov’t are the same ones who cause the problems and in this case it is the GOP.

josef

May 31st, 2012
12:06 pm

Me? I can’t wait until I can get married in North Carolina…talk about sweet revenge!

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

May 31st, 2012
12:07 pm

But can a coke machine and a pepsi machine get married…?

Yes and become Coksies happily ever after…or Pepcocks…what ever

barking frog

May 31st, 2012
12:08 pm

josef
May 31st, 2012
12:04 pm
But can a coke machine and
a pepsi machine get
married…?
…………
with a blood test from
Dr. Pepper.

Logical Dude

May 31st, 2012
12:08 pm

Yep, this is heading the same direction as interracial marriage.

What? somebody is actually against interracial marriage? In the 21st century???

Ennis

May 31st, 2012
12:08 pm

I wish all the gays and lesbians would get hitched up. That way, within a generation they will all have been bred out of the gene pool. Seems fair and right to me. However, I do not subscribe to the belief that “those” people don’t have a right to do as they please, as long as it stops appx 1 inch from my nose. The Guvment created this mess, let them sort it out. And please all you people that complain about the BIBLE forbidding it, get over it. Your children, if properly taught at home and Church, aint gonna marry any homo anyway.

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
12:09 pm

Can a lemon marry a lime or as that already legal because we have Sprite?

Adam

May 31st, 2012
12:09 pm

Erwin’s Cat: ??? happens everyday!…hardly a nightmare or impossible

Polygamy is illegal. So no, it doesn’t happen every day. Note my comment included “in such a situation”

josef

May 31st, 2012
12:09 pm

NORMAL

It ain’t natural, I tells you. The Good Book says “like shall seek like.” Oh, wait a minute, I mean…oh, dear…nevermind…

Refugee from the "Sahara of the Bozart" (Thank God and H.L. Mencken We Escaped)

May 31st, 2012
12:10 pm

This could be another War Between The States issue. Even the most progressive “Hate State” North Carolina just voted overwhelmingly “agin it” as Pastor Worley says as he calls for all “queers and homos” to be put inside a big fence so they can be kept from reproducing(?) and exterminated. Shorter University and 2 other TaliBaptist colleges in Jawja are decimating their faculties with their gay hate tactics. Don’t expect to see this reported in the AJC.

Same-sex marriage in the “Hate States”?

Danger, Will Robinson, Danger!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

May 31st, 2012
12:10 pm

I wish all the gays and lesbians would get hitched up. That way, within a generation they will all have been bred out of the gene pool.

Teh stoopid is strong in this one.

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
12:11 pm

“That way, within a generation they will all have been bred out of the gene pool. ”

Dumbest post of the day (maybe the YEAR) and I am proud to call it out……

So straight people will stop having gay kids if gays are allowed to marry.

bwhahahahahahahahahahahahaahha

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

May 31st, 2012
12:11 pm

josef

May 31st, 2012
12:09 pm

:D

Adam

May 31st, 2012
12:11 pm

Logical Dude: What? somebody is actually against interracial marriage? In the 21st century???

Wellt hey’re not ALL dead yet. People who were against it then SAY they aren’t against it anymore… It’ll be the same story in 40 years when it comes to same-sex marriage.

josef

May 31st, 2012
12:11 pm

ENNIS

Our kids were properly raised at home, and, yep, you’re right. Not one of the three married a homo…

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
12:12 pm

josef

Thanks for playing nice with Ennis. I was unable to get past the stupidity and ignorance

Adam

May 31st, 2012
12:12 pm

Ennis: I wish all the gays and lesbians would get hitched up. That way, within a generation they will all have been bred out of the gene pool.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA

Right, because gay people having sex is what produces gay children.

That Black Guy

May 31st, 2012
12:13 pm

What is it called when someone presents an arguement that had not been offered in the current discussion and then proceeds to refute the arguement that only they presented?

BTW, this is the correct ruling.

getalife

May 31st, 2012
12:13 pm

Get your big oppressive government out of our bedrooms pervs.

skipper

May 31st, 2012
12:13 pm

Betcha “Lickity-Split” Maddow will be “progressively” and “liberally” glowing tonight……………….

the cat

May 31st, 2012
12:14 pm

Wait-Ennis wasn’t satire? OMG

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
12:14 pm

Adam — “Right, because gay people having sex is what produces gay children.”

Clearly his two dads never had “the talk” with him. :D

Erwin's cat

May 31st, 2012
12:14 pm

Adam..Polygamy is illegal here in the US, but not everywhere…those multi-party contracts are manageable…. hardly a nightmare or impossible…just sayin’

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
12:15 pm

skipper — “Betcha “Lickity-Split” Maddow will be “progressively” and “liberally” glowing tonight……………….”

You’re just jealous because she gets more action from women than you do.

Aquagirl

May 31st, 2012
12:15 pm

I can’t wait until I can get married in North Carolina…talk about sweet revenge!

There must be a suitable location somewhere with a big ‘ol statue of Jesse Helms.

Tom(Independent-Viet Vet USAF)

May 31st, 2012
12:16 pm

Jefferson@12:04 – Perhaps you should be an American 1st and then Californian 2nd? If you don’t care for Georgia, then move to the Left Coast, makes sense to me?

Adam

May 31st, 2012
12:17 pm

TBG: What is it called when someone presents an arguement that had not been offered in the current discussion and then proceeds to refute the arguement that only they presented?

I *think* it’s a straw man, technically. But if someone is presenting an argument that they have actually heard presented seriously elsewhere on the same subject, it’s technically not. Tough call.

getalife

May 31st, 2012
12:17 pm

tom,

Self deport.

Thanks con.

GT

May 31st, 2012
12:18 pm

Makes sense. In the logic of the backwoods, one state does not have to honor another state’s definition of marriage. A man could get married 50 times in fifty different states and maybe even a few more times off shore.

What this law says is a man married to a man or woman cannot be married again until he or she has divorced the one partner and that stands in all 50 states. So all gay people will go to Mass. the home of Romney :) get married and then come back to Atlanta legally married.

I think that is brilliant, and also I wonder if some of a gay persons tax money can’t be traced to the benefits given to hetrosexual spouce benefits. You are paying for drinks and denied entry to the bar.

Doggone/GA

May 31st, 2012
12:18 pm

“Again, I ask: How would you libs discriminate and define marriage?”

And again I answer: a legal contract between 2 consenting adults.

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
12:19 pm

Tom

Based on some of your previous post I believe that you are not an Obama fan. Based on that, when are you leaving the US? What is good for the goose is good for the gander, right? Or is it just individual states?

Ennis

May 31st, 2012
12:19 pm

Okay Okay I was just poking fun at the let them get married thingy. I was right however about children being brought up to respect other people, have manners, and all that other “old fashioned” stuff. Also a strong religious teaching thrown into the mix makes for some well educated, bright young people to take the place of us elderly people that have grandchildren by now and are looking at the prospect of studying for that “BIG” final exam.

Adam

May 31st, 2012
12:19 pm

Erwin’s Cat: Ok. If they are manageable (maybe I just think it’s too complicated for me personally to get a grasp on) then polygamy is a possibility in legal terms. If that is the case, does this ruling open the door for polygamy?

That Black Guy

May 31st, 2012
12:19 pm

the cat

May 31st, 2012
12:14 pm
Wait-Ennis wasn’t satire? OMG
______________________________________________________

I pray he was.

TBS @ 12:11, That was the 1st thing that popped into my head.

skipper

May 31st, 2012
12:20 pm

@ JH Mama,
OK, I gotta admit that was funny…..remind me not to get into a insult/joke contest with you…you are quick on the draw even if I don’t agree with you!

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
12:21 pm

Ennis

Thanks for taking the time to clarify

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
12:21 pm

GT — “Makes sense. In the logic of the backwoods, one state does not have to honor another state’s definition of marriage. A man could get married 50 times in fifty different states and maybe even a few more times off shore. ”

This seems plausible. It would explain the disconnect between the whole MARRAIGE ARE SAKRID meme and all the adultery, hooker-renting, page-grabbing and shoe-tapping in men’s rooms that seems to permeate the GOP’s ranks.

SomaAtl95

May 31st, 2012
12:21 pm

So let me get this straight, You “conservative” posters want the Guvmint out of your lives, but want them to control everyone elses? You don’t want Islam sharia law in America but are fine with America being a “Christian Nation”? You don’t want women to have the power to choose what they want to do with their own bodies but have no use for poor and underprivileged children until they’re old enough to fight wars and die for your causes?
How much sense does that make?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

May 31st, 2012
12:22 pm

Okay Okay I was just poking fun at the let them get married thingy.

Walking it back using the ol’ “I was just joking/fooling/funnin’ around” card.

Sounds awful familiar.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
12:23 pm

skipper — “OK, I gotta admit that was funny…..remind me not to get into a insult/joke contest with you…you are quick on the draw even if I don’t agree with you!”

Thank you for taking that in the spirit intended — I saw the opening and just couldn’t resist. :D

We have lots of posters here who could stand to show the same kind of good sportsmanship you just displayed.

Adam

May 31st, 2012
12:24 pm

Adam

May 31st, 2012
12:25 pm

Walking it back using the ol’ “I was just joking/fooling/funnin’ around” card.

Sounds awful familiar.

Gaslighting is the term.

josef

May 31st, 2012
12:26 pm

Let’s see…New Jersey and New York permit first cousins to marry, Mississippi and Louisiana don’t…does that mean that if you marry your cousin in New Jersey or New York, Mississippi and Louisiana don’t have to recognize it…? In Texas and Oklahoma it’s a criminal offense, does that mean if you go there you can be prosecuted?

*****************

Oh, no, my Mama was a d*ke and my Daddy was a f*ggot…!

That Black Guy

May 31st, 2012
12:26 pm

Adam

May 31st, 2012
12:17 pm
TBG: What is it called when someone presents an arguement that had not been offered in the current discussion and then proceeds to refute the arguement that only they presented?

I *think* it’s a straw man, technically. But if someone is presenting an argument that they have actually heard presented seriously elsewhere on the same subject, it’s technically not. Tough call.
___________________________________________________________________

I just wanted to put a name to it before those stuck in 1850 start with their BS.

Thanks

skipper

May 31st, 2012
12:26 pm

@JH Mama,
10-4….I toted my butt whoopin’ like a man………

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

May 31st, 2012
12:26 pm

Gaslighting is the term.

I was thinking more in terms of a certain individual.

real john

May 31st, 2012
12:26 pm

Jay,

On a side note, the US GDP was revised LOWER (AGAIN!) in the first quarter. Growth was a meager 1.9% versus the 2.2% that Obama was touting.

Of course, you, and your fellow Democrats will keep trying to steer the conversation to social issues or other things.

Now all reports are showing a dismal May jobs report coming out tomorrow. If it was so sad for our country, it would be almost funny trying to watch Democrats and their continued failures on the economy. If Obama and the Dems stay in controll, our countries finances will be in the toliet after four more years.

But I’m sure you will have some really in depth stories about our soaring defecit, crappy housing market, unsubstainable spending, and long term umemployment problem. Now CNN and some other liberal media are complaining that if we don’t extend the Bush/Obama tax cuts, the economy will nosedive…Well, which is it?….They say our whole problem is the Bush tax cuts, now they act like we have to extend them…The Democrats literally have no clue on how the economy works. They ONLY know how to spend money…regardless if they actually have the money to spend…Pathetic

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
12:28 pm

This is totally OT, but I was reading the news while eating my soup, and I thought this was very interesting.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47623025/ns/technology_and_science-science/

It’s not a hugely momentous story, but I find it intriguing and diverting. A detective story where there’s no perp, if you will.

ty webb

May 31st, 2012
12:28 pm

the same DOMA that Bill Clinton (D) signed into law? Good news indeed. Couple that with DADT(also signed into law by Democrat Bill Clinton) being overturned and Obama’s recent endorsement for “States’ Rights”, and us fans of personal liberty can smile somewhat.

real john

May 31st, 2012
12:28 pm

I apologize for the terrible spelling. I’m at work so I don’t have a whole lot of time to spell check :)

josef

May 31st, 2012
12:28 pm

ENNIS

Okay, but what I said still stands…

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
12:28 pm

Adam and Kam

I haven’t seen Ennis post on here before and I blasted him pretty good. I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt this time. I see what you are saying without a doubt, however I’m going to see what other morsels he brings to the table.

JamVet

May 31st, 2012
12:28 pm

Time for all of the homophobes to go back in the closet!

Oscar

May 31st, 2012
12:29 pm

Marriage is a defined legal contract between two people and according to a previous Supreme Court decision, cannot apply to more than two people.

__________

And since the court has ruled corporations are people, 0 just ask Mitt _ then that should mean that I could marry a corporation, or two corporations could marry.

Can anyone step up and stop this nonsense. Corporations are not people.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

May 31st, 2012
12:29 pm

Oh, no, my Mama was a d*ke and my Daddy was a f*ggot…!

And I’m your brother/sister… :)

Adam

May 31st, 2012
12:30 pm

real john: Of course, you, and your fellow Democrats will keep trying to steer the conversation to social issues or other things.

Now THAT’S funny….

What, social issues not working for you guys this go around?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

May 31st, 2012
12:30 pm

They BOTH suck

“Ennis” isn’t a newbie here.

Brosephus™

May 31st, 2012
12:30 pm

Bro

Can we get a facepalm please?

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Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
12:30 pm

K’Chak — “I was thinking more in terms of a certain individual.”

I feel certain that I know to whom you refer.

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

May 31st, 2012
12:30 pm

And there was much rejoicing in the stalls of the highway rest areas!

Adam

May 31st, 2012
12:31 pm

Now all reports are showing a dismal May jobs report coming out tomorrow

I remember a prediction similar to this prior to a jobs report that had over 200k jobs and a lower unemployment rate, TWICE. I think I’ll wait for the report before declaring it “dismal” or “glowing.”

That Black Guy

May 31st, 2012
12:31 pm

skipper

May 31st, 2012
12:20 pm
@ JH Mama,
OK, I gotta admit that was funny…..remind me not to get into a insult/joke contest with you…you are quick on the draw even if I don’t agree with you!
_____________________________________________________________________

skipper, JHM is the Bruce Lee of quick wit.

If you listen real close you can hear him making those Bruce Lee sounds as he types out a quick retort. :lol:

Oscar

May 31st, 2012
12:32 pm

does that mean that if you marry your cousin in New Jersey or New York, Mississippi and Louisiana don’t have to recognize it

+++++++++++

The court ruling says the oppostite, that it does have to be recognized.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 31st, 2012
12:32 pm

real john — “defecit”

This is when you can’t go pewp.

And I think it’s PRECIOUS how you put it right next to the word “crappy.” :D

They BOTH suck

May 31st, 2012
12:32 pm

Kam

Got you. For some reason I do not recall his name or he is a regular posting under another. I do not know which one