Fox News lets the mask slip once again

Another example of Obama’s lack of experience and competence:

“Polish Death Camps”????? Unbelievable!

Obama’s words at medal ceremony cause trouble with Poland
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/30/politics/obama-death-camps/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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Looked like a fair representation to me.

What stat was incorrect?

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Enter your comments hereOh and NPR had the gall to point out how Obama came from poor humble beginnings and is now president

But it is impossible to get ahead anymore and we need Obama to fix that

Ah the hypocrisy and absurdity….

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Even on new sheets I’m still the only white man in a 100% black neighborhood.

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…and the MSNBC clown stating he did not want to call American military dead heros.

Not a peep from Jay on that one. Interesting.

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Seems accurate to me too

What hasn’t changed

No change to social security
No change to Medicare
No change to the deficit other than making it worse
No change in simplifying and cleaning up the tax code

Very few new jobs despite a blank check for 2 years plus years, Keynesianism is dead but Obama doesn’t know it

Obama is the status quo president

And the status quo sucks

Vote Romney 2012

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Jay, how do you even have the nerve to bring this up when you liberals have MSNBC (Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow and a host of others), CNN, the Washington Post, the New York Times (Krugman), the LA Times and your Atlanta Journal Consitution in the Obama cheerleading section of the America media who send out daily barrages of messages against Romney and the GOP? NBC, CBS and ABC are all in the tank for your boy. Is one dissenting voice in the media which happens to be watched by most of America that important to you? I do have to wonder though, why are they watched the most? And, if I were the Romney campaign I would run exactly this same “commercial” over and over and over. With Obama, hope has changed to constant fear and class and race warfare. Change has morphed into killing people with drones instead of water boarding and promising more people government assistance which is only fueling the fires of our country’s decline. Again, under Obama 25% of this country’s working age population has given up even looking for a job and instead are relying upon government assistance. This makes the un-employment numbers meaningless as those of us that even bother to think already knew. Is this what you want for our country’s future Jay? Is this what you want for you childrens future?

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Jay 6:31

Well I’ll listen to that too

But they stated already that the “republican” dream is: you’re 100% on your own

Which is BS

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Make that: utter and complete BS

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In one major example, New Jersey poll participants were questioned about the outcome of the so-called Arab Spring uprisings in North Africa earlier in the year. A total of 53% of respondents know that Egyptians were successful in overthrowing dictator Hosni Mubarak. Also, 48% know that the Syrian uprising has thus far been unsuccessful in ousting Assad.

Fox News viewers were also 6-points less likely to know that Syrians have not yet overthrown their government than those who watch no news, suggesting a daily dose of sound bytes from CNN at the gym, and headlines from Google News were enough to surpass what average Fox viewers polled knew about current events.

Sad, but funny at the same time, these Republcian News Network rubes…

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Jay 6:31

As to what fox will do tomorrow: I don’t care, I don’t watch and listen to it

They’re biased. So what. Everyone is.

Heck, Murdoch has even told them to dial it back, months ago

Bloomberg has even become more liberal steadily since MB put Bberg news into a blind trust

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Looks like what the major networks like ABC, NBC and CBS run for the other party. Imagine that. Why no outrage over the slanted and biased reports coming from those sources?

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Since then, it has become such an embarrassment that Fox has made it vanish from its website.

Has there been an explanation of why they pulled this “news bit”?

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When you’re in the FoxBubble, reality probably DOES look like bias. Doesn’t make that point of view true, though.

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Why does the same Repubs come on Jay’s blog day in and day out and repeat the same old verbage? There is another blogger (Kyle) that they can go on and have their own soap box to spew their Fox talking points. If Jay is so bias or wrong about his topics, do us all a favor and stay away!!

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“news bit” it is not

On par with the “reporting” of msnbc and even CNN sometimes? Yep

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Nightline” co-anchor Terry Moran gave an interview on Friday to the Media Bistro’s “Morning Media Menu” podcast and compared Barack Obama to George Washington. Talking to host and editor Steve Krakauer, Moran gushed, “I like to say that, in some ways, Barack Obama is the first President since George Washington to be taking a step down into the Oval Office.”

Doomy do loves himself some media bias.

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Which super-pac wrote that piece?

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ATTENTION
@ 6:45
Reckon maybe it might could be because all points of view and all shades of banality and egoism are welcome at Jay’s front porch? Just a thought///

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“amvet’s “spitting on vets” who watch FoxNews.”

Those spitting on VN vets back in the day were lib ilks.

But that’s in past now since O’bozo apologized for their behavior. He would have spit on them too if he was old enough and off the weed long enough to show up.

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Obama change = much higher prices? Yep

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i hate faux news and i hate republicans..they are a evil bunch…and its sad so many poor and workin class folks vote for these idiots… voting away thier interest…lets face it the republicans are for the status quo,big business,the millionare club,and they dont give a d$$m about folks that work everyday and struggle to make ends meet..and if you think Romney is the answer think again he is too rich too care and cant idenify with working class folks…he only wants power he has everything else and what he dont have he can buy a million times over…this middle age war vetren is stickin with our PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES….PRESIDENT BARRACK OBAMA!!!i dont want a replay of the bush years..thats what you will get with romney..americans have a short memory

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just think how boring it would be if those us of the more conservative/libertarian persuasion weren’t here…there’d also be no one here to call “racist”.
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Is that what goes on with the conservative blogger (Kyle)?

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Attention Repubs that come on this blog

May 30th, 2012
6:45 pm
Why does the same Repubs come on Jay’s blog day in and day out and repeat the same old verbage? There is another blogger (Kyle) that they can go on and have their own soap box to spew their Fox talking points. If Jay is so bias or wrong about his topics, do us all a favor and stay away!!
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I don’t know about you, but I learn from those I disagree with.

Do you only want to hear opinions that you agree with? What do you get out of that?

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Attention

If you don’t mind, you can either lead or follow them out since you do not seem to like differing ideas and opinions……….

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F. Sinkwich

May 30th, 2012
6:49 pm
But that’s in past now since O’bozo apologized for their behavior. He would have spit on them too if he was old enough and off the weed long enough to show up.
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Hard to spit when you got “cotton mouth”

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“they dont give a d$$m about folks that work everyday and struggle to make ends meet..”

Conservatives do. Romney included.

If you could get over the bad choices you’ve made in your life, scott, and start anew, you’d feel much better about yourself.

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Scott

“I hate, I hate…” Jeeeze, Mec, with friends like you Obama doesn’t need any enemies…

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Comrade Jay….give it a rest buddy….

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ELEANOR

So, what’s wrong with a little small talk, eh?

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Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.

Rerun number 6,040.

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ATTENTION

Make those third person plurals first person plurals…we only have room for one saint hereabouts and she’s down at the plantation

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I hate,,,,,, I hate…..

Well Scott that would be your first problem.

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scott

May 30th, 2012
6:51 pm
i hate faux news and i hate republicans..they are a evil bunch…and its sad so many poor and workin class folks vote for these idiots
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it’s sad that you hate your fellow Americans. It’s sad that you hate teachers, firemen, police officers, disabled vets, mothers, fathers, grannies, paramedics, some of the people that died on 9/11, that died in Katrina, and others.

You HATE all those people because they don’t agree with you politically.

Next time you call a police officer or paramedic, be sure to ask their political views.

If they are republician, send them away because you HATE them.

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So Planned Parenthood is now doing abortions based upon the sex of the fetus? It appears that what they are doing is deciding that if the potential parent decides that it doesn’t want a fetus of the sex of their liking, then they abort it, depending upon the parents wishes. I guess it all depends upon what sex the potential parent wants to have. What are we, China? Has our society become this whimsical about the value of human life that we interject our preferences as to what sex of child we have?

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Scott

Don’t “hate” so much……… Going to be bad for your blood pressure and over all outlook on life……

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G-MARE

Mormons? Unicorns?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QarofaycN3c

Don’t mess with the old broads…

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pogo,

Infanticide- just like in China or India.

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Talking about letting masks slip—————————From the NYT————————

“The White House convinces itself that the Obama-ordered air strikes overseas have not killed many civilians because, according to the president, any and all men near around a drone target are considered enemies of America and can be executed without being added to the count of civilian casualties.

“It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent,” is how the Times report it. “Counterterrorism officials insist this approach is one of simple logic: people in an area of known terrorist activity, or found with a top Qaeda operative, are probably up to no good.”
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The mask of Stalin slipped to reveal…………………..an effing monster……with big ears.

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Jm,
at least that’s what my great aunt told me…just don’t ask for proof.

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No wonder that crowd is so damn ignorant!

http://tinyurl.com/89md7bg

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Jay…you are a joke.

Whining about the media…after you incessantly attack the Right for the liberal rag…AJC.

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I hate to bring stuff from different threads, but I wanna make sure that my response is heard crystal clear….

No point talking to you when you’ve just degenerated into a whole lot of swearing and cursing. Go get an ice cream and cool down. No kool-aid though. You’ve had enough of that.

Doom

You started that yourself. You tell me how am I supposed to respond to:

Did corporations run up 16 trillion in debt sir? Did they? Answer the damn question Bro. Who the hell ran up 16 trillion in debt? Who the hell created untold billions in future SS and Medicare liabilities?

Now who cursed who first??? As I told you downstairs, if and/or when you come at me with some semblance of decorum, I’ll respond likewise. When you come at me like that, ^^^^ you get what you give out. As to Kool-Aid, I don’t drink it, and I don’t make snide references such as that. Jay lets you get away with starting crap with people, but bring it my way, and I’ll dish it right back. If Jay bans me, it’s no water off my back. I don’t disrespect anybody here, and I won’t let anybody disrespect me.

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Roger Ailes should be force-fed Rush Limbaugh’s liposuctioned fat.

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I saw the FOX story. If it were a lie on NBC, CBS or ABC about, for example Bush’s national guard record it, would be no problem for the wicked left and Jay would not report it. However, the truth about Obama’s dismal record on “Hope and Change” is not news worthy. In fact, just this week the so called major net works insisted on repeating Obama lies about Romney’s time at Bain Capital causing layoffs when in fact the lay offs did not occur during the time Romney was at Bain Capital. Obama knows they are distorting the truth and so does the networks but the networks dutifuly report whatever they are told by the white house. Jay is merely one of the Democrat party marionettes whose job between now and Novemeber will be to talk about anything but Obama’s record.

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By the way, has anyone seen how much the Republican budget proposal reduces the debt yet. I’m still hoping for those numbers to be published in a new Heritage paper or on some other Koch-run website such as the GOP’s site or perhaps Paul Ryan’s page, et al, but to no avail. Republicans keep going on and on, and on and on… on and on and on… about the horrors of the monstrously large debt that only Obama has created and dumped upon the US so I figure they surely must have something more to share with us than just their usual. But No. They do not. They have nothing more than the usual. Nary a solution. Unless I have missed something. Anyway. That is why I ask. So I ask again. Has anyone seen anything from the Republicans that details just how much their budget proposal reduces the debt. Anyone. Maybe from one of your friends at Fox.

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BROSEPHUS

@ 7:20

Well, here’s you some of that inferior Mississippian imagery for you…

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20120530/FEAT/120530020/-1/Nletter03/USM-senior-competes-for-Miss-USA-title?source=nletter-news

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Lib ilks here will weep at this news:

“This reporter has been told that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has metastatic rhabdomyosarcoma, an aggressive cancer that has “entered the end stage”.”

My sympathies to you all.

*sniff*

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Since then, it has become such an embarrassment that Fox has made it vanish from its website.

I’d love to see an explanation.

Perhaps the Edward R. Murrow-like Neil Cavuto could enlighten us…

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I recall

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Brocephus,

Are you still stewing after your swearfest? I’m over it bro- water under the bridge. Let it roll off your shoulders and relax. Hell I’m not even mad at Joe mama.

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Maybe if you posted O’bozo’s plan we could compare and contrast.

Nah. You can have your “O’bozo”. I think that is more your speed.

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Oh, you silly Democrats! You are against such realism and you know it reveals your pathetic president as a fool and an inept leader, but you know in your heart that it is an effective expose.

No matter how Bookman moans and screams about it is a travesty or it is not a news piece, it is what it is and the American people know it. After all, Fox News is the most watched program of its kind in the country.

Your liberal counter news organization, MSNBC, has tried to do the same but no one watches this program but leftists, liberals, and lunatics. Funny how you all have all of the main stream media in your back pockets, but only Fox has most of the viewing public.

I say to you…tough luck! We are the common sense viewers of real news. Go take a cold shower and join the rest of your loser Occupy Movement losers.

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“After all, Fox News is the most watched program of its kind in the country.”

And that was an impact how on the 2008 Presidential elections?

Exactly how did those stats overlap?

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Plantations, Prisons and Profits
By CHARLES M. BLOW
“Louisiana is the world’s prison capital. The state imprisons more of its people, per head, than any of its U.S. counterparts. First among Americans means first in the world. Louisiana’s incarceration rate is nearly triple Iran’s, seven times China’s and 10 times Germany’s.”
That paragraph opens a devastating eight-part series published this month by The Times-Picayune of New Orleans about how the state’s largely private prison system profits from high incarceration rates and tough sentencing, and how many with the power to curtail the system actually have a financial incentive to perpetuate it.
The picture that emerges is one of convicts as chattel and a legal system essentially based on human commodification.
First, some facts from the series:
• One in 86 Louisiana adults is in the prison system, which is nearly double the national average.
• More than 50 percent of Louisiana’s inmates are in local prisons, which is more than any other state. The next highest state is Kentucky at 33 percent. The national average is 5 percent.
• Louisiana leads the nation in the percentage of its prisoners serving life without parole.
• Louisiana spends less on local inmates than any other state.
• Nearly two-thirds of Louisiana’s prisoners are nonviolent offenders. The national average is less than half.
In the early 1990s, the state was under a federal court order to reduce overcrowding, but instead of releasing prisoners or loosening sentencing guidelines, the state incentivized the building of private prisons. But, in what the newspaper called “a uniquely Louisiana twist,” most of the prison entrepreneurs were actually rural sheriffs. They saw a way to make a profit and did.
It also was a chance to employ local people, especially failed farmers forced into bankruptcy court by a severe drop in the crop prices.
But in order for the local prisons to remain profitable, the beds, which one prison operator in the series distastefully refers to as “honey holes,” must remain full. That means that on almost a daily basis, local prison officials are on the phones bartering for prisoners with overcrowded jails in the big cities.
It also means that criminal sentences must remain stiff, which the sheriff’s association has supported. This has meant that Louisiana has some of the stiffest sentencing guidelines in the country. Writing bad checks in Louisiana can earn you up to 10 years in prison. In California, by comparison, jail time would be no more than a year.
There is another problem with this unsavory system: prisoners who wind up in these local for-profit jails, where many of the inmates are short-timers, get fewer rehabilitative services than those in state institutions, where many of the prisoners are lifers. That is because the per-diem per prisoner in local prisons is half that of state prisons.
In short, the system is completely backward.
Lifers at state prisons can learn to be welders, plumbers or auto mechanics — trades many will never practice as free men — while prisoners housed in local prisons, and are certain to be released, gain no skills and leave jail with nothing more than “$10 and a bus ticket.”
These ex-convicts, with almost no rehabilitation and little prospect for supporting themselves, return to the already-struggling communities that were rendered that way in part because so many men are being extracted on such a massive scale. There the cycle of crime often begins again, with innocent people caught in the middle and impressionable young eyes looking on.
According to The Times-Picayune: “In five years, about half of the state’s ex-convicts end up behind bars again.”
This suits the prison operators just fine. They need them to come back to the “honey holes.”
Furthermore, the more money the state spends on incarceration, the less it can spend on preventive measures like education. (According to Education Week’s State Report Cards, Louisiana was one of three states and the District of Columbia to receive an F for K-12 achievement in 2012, and, this year, the state, over all, is facing a $220 million deficit in its $25 billion budget.)
Louisiana is the starkest, most glaring example of how our prison policies have failed. It showcases how private prisons do not serve the public interest and how the mass incarceration as a form of job creation is an abomination of justice and civility and creates a long-term crisis by trying to create a short-term solution.
As the paper put it: “A prison system that leased its convicts as plantation labor in the 1800s has come full circle and is again a nexus for profit.”

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As I’ve noted many times, Faux News is porn for lonely old Republicans…

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Jay – are you saying that up until this point, you actually thought Fox News WAS fair and balanced? And this “editorial” segment today changed your mind about this? Is that what you’re so upset about? If that’s the case, then you are so much more uneducated and naive than your readers originally thought.

Or are you actually upset that the “editorial” used Obama’s words, Obama’s slogans, and Obama’s financial numbers to show the TRUTH about his performance as president? I’m guessing it’s the latter. You and other liberals seem to have a hard time handlign the facts.

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Jam

The rating for Fox and talk radio mean nothing in terms of the overall electorate. It is good for those who follow and of course for the investors, but if the “ratings” were some end all of end alls in terms of elections then why do Republicans not win every election?

It is simple with all the ratings, it is still a small percentage of the electorate………………

But if somehow that makes someone feel good to tout Fox and talk radio ratings as if they get a “gold star” in the mail……. let them ramble

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“then why do Republicans not win every election?”

Cause they’re not conservative enough.

But thanks for asking.

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Sinkwich 7:28 hilarious

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“Now who cursed who first??? As I told you downstairs, if and/or when you come at me with some semblance of decorum, I’ll respond likewise. When you come at me like that, ^^^^ you get what you give out. As to Kool-Aid, I don’t drink it, and I don’t make snide references such as that. Jay lets you get away with starting crap with people, but bring it my way, and I’ll dish it right back. If Jay bans me, it’s no water off my back. I don’t disrespect anybody here, and I won’t let anybody disrespect me.”

In a word plus acronym: pure BS

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I gotta hone up on my cut and paste skills….

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“Cause they’re not conservative enough.

But thanks for asking.”

And as usual our top clown has made his appearance..

Thanks for clowning

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In June of last year, Jon Stewart went on air with Fox News’ Chris Wallace and started a major media controversy over the channel’s misinforming of its viewers. “Who are the most consistently misinformed media viewers?” Stewart asked Wallace. “The most consistently misinformed? Fox, Fox viewers, consistently, every poll.”

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By numerous measures, Santorum and Gingrich are more conservative than Romney…………..

They were shellacked by an overall center right Republican electorate

But don’t let facts get in the way of your fantasy land diatribes

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ZamVet

Watch it with the Zimbabwe one, y’hear…Zimbabwe is a highly educated country, even out in the boonies…so, why did you choose it?

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Health Care

In early 2011, the Kaiser Family Foundation released another survey on public misperceptions about healthcare reform. The poll asked 10 questions about the newly passed healthcare law and compared the “high scorers”—those that answered 7 or more correct—based on their media habits. The result was that “higher shares of those who report CNN (35 percent) or MSNBC (39 percent) as their primary news source [got] 7 or more right, compared to those that report mainly watching Fox News (25 percent).”

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St SIMON’S

“echoes can’t vote.”

That’s a good one!

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Well, I’m kinda late getting on here because I was caught up watching Fox News.

It figures a librul like Bookman would take out after Fox News. I watch it because they tell the Truth. And even if they stretched things a little, I’d still watch it because they say the things I want to hear. I feel like a real pointy head after I’ve spent the night listening to Sean and Bill and all the other right-thinking people because I always feel like I’m really caught up on what’s going on in this country and the world. Strange how it takes a Australian to make sure we get the straight scoop.

And it don’t sound like they take sides. The Truth don’t take sides.

Have a good night everybody.

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I learned we have a big deficit from Fox.

Is that a lie?

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F. Sinkwich
Louisanna must be doin’ some hard time.

Don’t forget to vote for O’bozo.

And don’t bend over in the shower I’ve heard, but you probably figured that out by now.

Sux to be you, I guess…

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Thank you for your kind words.

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stands for decibels

May 30th, 2012
7:17 pm

Roger Ailes should be force-fed Rush Limbaugh’s liposuctioned fat.
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dB, that comment will do wonders for my diet.

I won’t be eating tonight.

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“Eugene had a job detailing cars at a dealership and had been arrested a handful of times on marijuana-related charges, his brother said.

“I don’t understand any of this,” the brother said. “I know my brother, and anybody else who knows him knows he was a genuinely sweet person.”"

Oops. Don’t do pot. U might eat someone’s face.

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I can see those pot legalization polls heading the other direction…..

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Jay,

I would like to give you a homework assignment please.

Tonight you have to watch 2 hours of MSNBC. That time can be spent on Rachael Madow and/ or Ed Schultz. After you have watched this you have to write a blog on the lies and half truths that you observed.

The up coming blog must have at least 2 quotes which are glaring examples of left leaning TV reporting. The quotes must be followed by the actual truth.

For extra credit you may review the Clayton State University study guide as it is presented to the youth who are taking history at that campus. I can make that book available to you if you like. A preview, ” President Carter faced a severe downturn in the economy. faced with republican oppisition on policies that would improve the economic outlook, Carter was forced to do his best via presidential directives. Of course once Regan took over those directives, put in place by Carter, did a great deal to enhance the illusion that Regan actually helped the country”

Then you can sum up which side is more ” liberal” if you will, in what they publish and which side skews the truth.

I await your presentation

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BROSEPHUS

Gotcha!

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By the way I know it spelled Reagan

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Sinkwich,

Thulsa asked for the supporting evidence regarding the fact that you viewers of Fox are more misinformed than even people that watch no news and I replied. Do yourself a favor and read the non-KOS information that I provided. Become one of the informed. Okay, now that was funny.

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Enter your comments here

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These types of pieces undercut the credibility of Fox or reinforces the lack of credibility.

let me think… The latter, I believe.

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You know what’s interesting. The words media bias never existed in the liberal vocabulary until Fox news came along.

Now it’s an everyday accusation, even your president has caught on to the liberal theme of ” they talk bad about us”

And Fox is only one out of 4 networks. Makes you wonder why libs never had a problem with CBS! NBC or ABC

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it gives me a thrill up my leg…

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Don’t either side want me, where do I go?

Have you considered the middle.

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Instead of thinking in terms of “sides,” and in terms of taking a stand against an opponent, just listen to the data shared in this interview with President Reagan’s former policy advisor, which I had posted earlier. Don’t focus on the fact that the interview takes place on the Chris Matthews Show. That is not relevant. Bartlett was asked by Matthews to be on his show because of an op-ed Bartlett had previously written in which he presented these facts to the general public. Bartlett had served in two Republican administrations. He does not appear to be overly partisan.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#43917503

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“The words media bias never existed in the liberal vocabulary until Fox news came along”

In the words of a Republican Congressmen from SC

“YOU LIE”

Next topic

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Fox does have some HOT women………

Let me be the 1st to say…………..

Especially “the 5″

All three of the women who are regulars are smokin…….. including Bush’s ex Press Sec

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BOTH

Now, be nice to Mama. The short term memory is the first to go…

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BOTH

And my man Shep ain’t half bad…!

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Heaven forbid! I’d still have to fall one way or the other when I lost my balance…

I’ve found that when I lean forward while walking, I am less likely to fall to the left or right although I do favor the left, being a Southpaw.

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“Bartlett had served in two Republican administrations. He does not appear to be overly partisan.”

He’s a RINO establishment hack. All he wants is an invite to Sally Quinn’s parties in Georgetown.

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Watched it this morning on Fox and Friends and it was spot on. The problem of course is it comes across as a political ad. The left doesn’t like it because it tells the story of a failed presidency and Jay is only being a good lefty by criticizing it on his blog. A little bit of left wing whining here but the video itself is a home run.

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Truth hurts. When you don’t have anything positive to run on, you try to deflect any attention to your failures by attacking your opponent. We need change we can believe in and that will start in 2013.

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They BOTH suck

May 30th, 2012
8:25 pm

TBG

Your post earlier today about fingers in mouths just crossed my mind.

That was nothing short of hilarious……..

Bravo, Bravo

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That’s the visual I get sometimes after reading his posts.

I USED to go after Adam about his posts, but stopped weeks ago. I don’t want to be seen as someone who targets particular people.

The only time I’ll say something is if he does it to me.

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That Black Guy,

Correct me if I am wrong but I seem to recall you claiming that “they would move that oil using his [Buffett's] trains” so I thought it only natural to call you out for that yarn given that Buffett clearly does not own all the trains that could be used for transporting oil should someone choose to do so, not that your comment really had any bearing whatsoever on my original post though. It was really just a convenient diversion that you decided to throw out. k.

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Oh my God. Taxpayer thinks Jon Stewart, a far left guy, is a credible voice on who and who isn’t informed. Damn that is funny.

Oh my God. Thulsa cannot even read far enough into my replies to his request for information to glean the simple fact that what I posted was not about Jon Stewart. That’s not funny though. It’s sad and telling. Now run along, Doom. Your Fox “News” surely awaits..

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Thanks, Louisiana.

Here’s some good advice:

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.

Too bad your momma didn’t tell you that.

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weetamoe

Ja już przeprosił w imieniu prezydenta Obamy. Co więcej chcesz, głupie gówno?

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TBG @ 8:54

Understood, however there are times he gets what he deserves……..

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ME, he’s a RiNO, despicable as Olympia Snowe.

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F.Sinkwich…oh thank you “Moma”.

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“You have given me the best advice that I have ever received. You are a wonderful person! Once again thank you.”

You’ve made my day!

I always strive to help my fellow human being.

Please pass along my wisdom to your siblings.

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“must be a sensitive f*ggot thing! ”

hahahahaha

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The right doesn’t suppress minorities the left does. This falsehood about conservatives perpetuated by far-left Democrats is nauseating but some unfortunately believe it to be true and sadly give their votes to a party who wants nothing else from them or for them.

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They BOTH suck

May 30th, 2012
9:10 pm

I am laughing so hard that tears are rolling down my face!!!

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Jay, Jay, Jay… so, given Obama has no record to run on nor a plan to jump start the economy, which category are you using today — deflection, deception, or digression (or name calling)?

I ‘digress’, but remember, at the end of the day the only real question for November 2012 each of us needs to ask ourselves is — am I and/or my family better off today then we were four years ago? Everything else falls under the above 3 D’s…

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One and out

Am I and my family better off than we were four years ago?

Yep.

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LOUISIANA

The post to BOTH…

See, I was the one who made the “sensitive f*ggot” comment…

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“F. Sinkwich made a very rude remark…”

Now you hurt my feelings.

Shame on you!

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Jury awards $3 million in man’s sex death (AJC)

[The doctor] failed to inform the patient to stop all physical activity until the [heart stress] test was completed.

See, now if you die having sex with a buddy and a strange woman, your doctor will have to pay. It’s only right! I mean, somebody’s got to pay.

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This thread was a goofy topic anyway, so it explains why there’s not much going on that’s interesting. I’ll wish y’all a great evening and catch up tomorrow.

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josef

May 30th, 2012
9:19 pm

One and out

Am I and my family better off than we were four years ago?

Yep.
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Me too.

Man, I get tired of answering this question.

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SOOTH
@ 9:25

Now THAT’s news we need to know about!

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Not to mention “fair and balanced.”

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TBG,

Why would I have a problem with Buffett. I mean, he’s reviled by the right so he’s okay by me. As for him standing to make a profit shipping oil by train, I’m not aware of any contracts that could be referenced to either prove or disprove that claim. Feel free to post something for review if you wish to discuss it further.

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F. Sinkwich,

I dunno. Taxpayer has given me plenty of humor tonight. Every time I look up one of his sources in one of his um ’studies’ showing how misinformed those fox viewers are I just start cracking up when I see a bunch of kook left websites, 501c groups, etc. associated with the authors.

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Allow me to expand:

Me too.

Man, I get tired of answering this question. NOT that the president had ANYTHING to do with it.

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Sooth, that’s Hot Tuna you wanna see, not radioactive tuna

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SOOTH

Me. too!

FORMAL BLACK GUY

In the economic sphere, not so much, but in the civil rights sphere, yeah, he’s coming around and things are looking up…

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Glad to see so many people on here bashing Mr. liberal (bookman). Anyone with a functioning brain can see that the obama presidency has been a complete failure and that he will be embarrassed this November and sent packing to Chicago. That city deserves him! This country deserves better!

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TaxPayer

May 30th, 2012
9:35 pm

TBG,

Why would I have a problem with Buffett. – I didn’t ask if you had a problem with Mr Buffet. I asked if you had a problem with the fact that Mr Buffet has such a close relationship with this administration and stands to make a substantial amount of money from policy decisions of this admin. Kinda like Cheney and Halliburton.

I mean, he’s reviled by the right so he’s okay by me. – The right hates Amadinnerjacket in Iran, does that mean you like him?

As for him standing to make a profit shipping oil by train, I’m not aware of any contracts that could be referenced to either prove or disprove that claim. Feel free to post something for review if you wish to discuss it further. – I trying to research if BNSF has exclusive freight use of the rail lines along that route. But if they do, would you have a problem with the relationship between Mr Buffet and the admin?

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josef

May 30th, 2012
9:45 pm

SOOTH

Me. too!

FORMAL BLACK GUY

In the economic sphere, not so much, but in the civil rights sphere, yeah, he’s coming around and things are looking up…
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True dat, josef, true dat

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Thulsa once again proclaims himself to be the weiner and once again I must concur. Too bad there are not many call for your one-handed typing skills, Doom. You’ll have to settle for those insurance sales commissions. Meanwhile, your wall of lies just got a:

B
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Have you ever thought of doing:

D
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instead. That would at least demonstrate a little, very little, level of original thought. Give it a try.

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TBG,

Why deal with if’s when there are so many factual things out there to talk about. For example, the fact that Fox “News” viewers are more misinformed than people that watch no news at all. Thulsa is in denial though as I’m sure most Fox viewers are.

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I get a thrill up my leg…

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It’s mind-boggling how some of you are still such huge supporters of Obama after these last 3+ years. Romney is the weakest republican candidate that I can remember. Still, somehow…he has a chance to win. Obama, if he were even half as good as many of you believe, should be blowing Romney out of the water. He’s not. And why? There are too many people asking “oops, did i really do that?” back in 2008.

Obama would be better off as a sales executive, or head of some charity.

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So jay I guess U support the terorists.

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What’s a “Meber”?

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A one-sentence bill worth $300 million to a single, politically connected family that has doled out hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign donations is about to get a big push forward.
Set to be approved by the House Financial Services Committee on Thursday, the legislation would help Emigrant Savings Bank of New York sidestep a costly mandate of the Dodd-Frank financial reform law. No other bank in the country would be affected.
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Boooooooooo

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TBG,

Leaving off the if would not create a factual event to discuss.

Thulsa did not expose any studies as being anything unless you are one of those people that accept Doom’s proclamations as factual. They’re not. They’re just more of his usual bs. I posted material that referenced actual studies from numerous sources including even a Kaiser study and Doom pulled his usual garbage routine of making a worthless declaration with no basis in fact. But if that’s what you are looking for, go for it.

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Tell us all what part of the video is factually incorrect? Debt? Jobs? Food stamps? Why are all of you so upset about using the Presidents own words with actual facts?

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What part of the replay of Obama’s own words which explicitly outline the failure of his first term did you not comprehend?

Obama’s strategy for US jobs recovery, economic recovery, education improvement, immigration, healthcare reform, ATF gifts of assault weapons to murdering Mexican drug lords, and foreign energy independence are all idiotic, abysmal failures. His socialist game plan to undermine US sovereignty, weaken foreign relations, to kill the US Dollar as the World Currency, and instigate a divisive class and race war worked like a charm.

Obama and his socialist Czars have spent the past 3.5 years dragging the USA into the depths of ineptocracy and financial ruin. (If the term, “ineptocracy,” is unfamiliar to you, click here: http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/ineptocracy). Obama and his key socialist henchwoman, Valerie Jarrett are natural enemies of the US Constitution.

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Taxpayer?

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Buehler…. buehler…..buehler…..

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TiredOfTheLies

May 30th, 2012
10:40 pm

So are we surprised? Fox ‘News’ being political?

What part of the video was factually incorrect? Is it political to show the actual words and post actual facts to go along with those words?

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Hey TD – the part that is FACTUALLY INCORRECT is that we are in a DEPRESSION. You won’t hear it from our politicians, but in time, it will be recognized as such. Probably about 10 years from now.

Unfortunately, what the GOP is proposing is EXACTLY what was done in the early to mid 1930’s. “Gee… let’s try austerity.” Guess what – it didn’t work! To get us out of the depression was massive government spending, which happened to be a war (no, I don’t like the idea either – but it did work.) Further evidence? Austerity isn’t working now in Europe either… but hey, they’re different (Not!)

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Looks like tired of the lies needs to fix his remote control so that he can switch his news channel to a perfectly neutral news outlike- like Chris matthews and MSNBC. BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!

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Thank you for making this video easy to share. I do not have cable and that makes it tough to get accurateness like there is in this video. I sincerely appreciate you bring this to my attention. I will share with my friends.

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Hey, I’m glad to have been an economist – at least I know what might happen – and how to live through it. I just feel for all the stupids that actually believe the drivel from FOX.
Sad.

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Do a bit of reading, but you gotta read real economic journals, not the trash online and on TV.

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There is a reson CNN is at a TWENTY year low, not that you would comment on that!

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hulsa Doom

May 30th, 2012
10:49 pm
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Read some more on 1937 and you will get your answer. The result pulled the ecomony, which had been recovering back down. Until the next year when spending went back up.

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Reference: Paul Krugman (hope I spelled it right) … one of those Nobel folks….

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mmm, mmmmm
20 year low.
Just goes to show that folks like to watch what makes them feel good, and what they agree with..
Unfortunately the truth hurts – doesn’t get much viewership.

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Oscar,

Lots of new programs and events happened throughout the 1930s. What specific event in 1937 are you referring to? Because clearly tired of the lies has not a damn clue as to what the hell he is talking about.

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I see a lot of blather from tired of the lies. Haven’t seen any facts or rebuttal points yet though.

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FDR balanced the budget in 1937. Didn’t work out.

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Oscar, there isn’t an accepted definition of a depression if by accepted you mean agreed upon.

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Oscar, sorry,
I thought that was earlier – it could have been 1937, but it has been several years since I’ve read on the subject. I do remember that they tried unsuccessfully to balance the budget.

I was trying to make a point that you can raise the ire of folks with just some little stuff, and some sort of ‘facts’, and get them to go one way or another… like FOX.

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tired of the lies,

What austerity measures do you speak of? If you know so much you should be able to recite them. There were in fact 2 serious economic dips in the 1920s and you know what the govt did? Nothing. And you know what? The economy recovered just fine. Now if you go back and look at the FACTS you will see that Herbert Hoover actually started us on govt spending and programs before FDR even came in. FDR just greatly expanded on them. His new deal was 12 years and comprised the 1930s. We did not pull out of the recession until 1941

Fact sir. After a decade of New deal and massive govt spending the unemployment rate in 1940 was 14.6%. So after a decade of new deal policies we still had massive unemployment. So how do you explain this BS that you are positing that stimulus or govt intervention or Keynesian economics pulled us out of the depression when the evidence is quite the contrary? Go ahead. Explain it.

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Don’t Forget

May 30th, 2012
11:07 pm

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Pretty sure there is a definition agreed on by most economists. Unemployement in excess of twenty per cent lasting for years comes to mind as one of the factors.

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Tired of the lies,

I also forgot to mention that the 14.6% unemployment in 1940 was higher than it was 3 years earlier at 14.3%. So if New Deal policies were working after a decade than why were things getting worse? Please explain sir.

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If anyone actually cares, Media Matters carefully debunks this nauseatingly partisan piece of garbage:

http://mediamatters.org/research/201205300004

Not that any of the usual suspects from the right on this blog will bother to click a link or actually believe anything other than what they “know” to be true, if history is any judge.

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TiredOfTheLies

May 30th, 2012
10:57 pm

‘Black Guy’
Good – wait, go ahead.
I watched lots of the debates and crapola. No, it’s not all the fault of one party.
But apparently only one party says ‘my way or the highway’. Those folks are scary. – Unfortunately, that party is called “Today’s politician” or did you forget the healthcare faux-debate?

Housing prices are dropping, demand is down, the economy isn’t really growing much.
Many noted economists say we are in a depression, but you won’t see that on ANY news channel. You won’t see any politician admit it either. That would scare down demand. (you see, the supply side stuff really doesn’t work….but it makes good rhetoric.) – Yet you trust Obama who says we are in a recovery?

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TiredOfTheLies

May 30th, 2012
10:57 pm

‘Black Guy’
Good – wait, go ahead.
I watched lots of the debates and crapola.
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So, can you back up your accusations with proof, links, cites?

Anything other than your OPINION?

We’ll wait…

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TiredOfTheLies

May 30th, 2012
10:58 pm

Reference: Paul Krugman (hope I spelled it right) – How about an UNBIASED source?

one of those Nobel folks….- didn’t Obama get one of those things after being in office 1 month for what he MAY do? Also, Arafat, and q-Daffy (I think) also got one.

Yeah, they mean a lot now days.

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Oscar

May 30th, 2012
11:01 pm

TiredOfTheLies

May 30th, 2012
10:57 pm

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Everything is in the definition. How a depression is defined. Be the accepted definition we are not in one. Change the definition a little to fit and a we can say its a depression.
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Did Obama lead us from recovery into a depression?
Not sure I can vote for him AGAIN.

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larry
May 30th, 2012
11:31 pm

If we didnt have government intervention, unemployment would have remained at 25% or higher , instead of the 9.6% in 1936.

Larry,

You don’t know that. 2 months after the stock market crash in October unemployement rose and peaked at 9%, after which it began a general downward movement over the next several months down to 6.3% in June of 1930. Then the first of several major govt interventions in the way of Smoot Hawley occurred in June of 1930. By November unemployment reached double digits for the first time in a decade at 11.6%. And the double digit unemployment that began after the smoot hawley tariffs continued for every month throuhout the entire remainder of the 30s.

I’m not against all govt projects. Not even close. Some of them like the Hoover dam project are worthy and needed projects. My only point is that the govt just made things worse, much worse.

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Thulsa Doom,

I thought the GOP was the “party of personal responsibility?”

“Going by that logic a lot of the debt period is due to LBJ’s policies since Medicare and medicaid were enacted during his watch.’

And all the other President’s before and since LBJ…might want to take a look at a kid named Reagan.

“He could have changed the W policies or just dumped them.”
What do you think he’s been trying to do?

“The idea that we can blame W for all of the debt on a whole different president’s watch is ludicrous.”
The idea that some blame Obama for where we find ourselves as a country today is even more ludicrous. Glad Bush never did anything like that.

North Korea:

Clinton reached a bilateral agreement that failed. -GW Bush

“The United States tried direct dialogue with the North Koreans in the ’90s, and that resulted in the North Koreans signing onto agreements that they then didn’t keep.” Condi Rice

Economy:

“Two-and-a-half years ago, we inherited an economy in recession.” GW Bush

Middle East:

“It wasn’t all that long ago where a summit was called [referring to Clinton's summit] and nothing happened, and as a result we had significant intefadeh in the area.” GW Bush

Re 9/11 (a three-fer, encompassing Clinton, Carter and Reagan):

“They looked at our response after the hostage crisis in Iran, the bombings of the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the first World Trade Center attack, the killing of American soldiers in Somalia, the destruction of two U.S. embassies in Africa, and the attack on the USS Cole. They concluded that free societies lacked the courage and character to defend themselves against a determined enemy.” GW Bush

Job losses:

“In the last six months of the prior administration, more than 200,000 manufacturing jobs were lost. We’re turning that around.” GW Bush (fun fact, at the time in his administration, there were job losses of 913,000)

In 2008, re the economy:

A senior administration official says the budgetary problems stem from what is believed to be inadequate defense, intelligence and homeland security resources that were handed down from Clinton.

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larry

May 30th, 2012
11:24 pm

Where is your proof that Obama wants to compromise?

Actually the Health Care Bill was a compromise . – A “compromise” to the “Blue Dog” dems.

It was based on ideas from the Republican party in the mid-1990’s. The idea that people were freeloading on other people’s insurance. So the “insurance mandate” idea was brought about. – If you support something in the past, you MUST support it NOW? I hope not, because I USED to be anti abortion and a repub.

The idea was so popular , a certain governor of a certain northeastern state, a Republican governor, signed into law a health care law that was very much like the idea the Repubs had in the 90’s. – Of course that has EVERYTHING to do with what happened in the HC faux-debate, even though those in Mass were NOT in the US congress during the HC faux-debate.

Other that that, GREAT points.

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“He could have changed the W policies or just dumped them.”
What do you think he’s been trying to do?

So when he had a Dem house and senate he couldn’t do anything? He did obamacare after all.

“The idea that some blame Obama for where we find ourselves as a country today is even more ludicrous. Glad Bush never did anything like that.”

Sorry jewcowboy but consistency counts. We don’t blame Clinton for W’s 5 trillion in debt. And so we don’t blame W for O’s 5 trillion in debt either. Each president has to assume responsibility for what happens on his watch.

Regarding that fellow Ronnie Reagan. There is a reason he won re-election with a 49 state landslide. You can’t argue the economic success of his era.

What’s with W and Condy’s North Korean quotes? So the Clinton administration failed in their negotiations with N. Korea. So. What the hell does that have to do with anything?

Did W spend the entire 8 years blaming Clinton? Sure. You can find a handful of selected quotes where they mention a failure of the previous administration. So what. But W didn’t go on appearance and speech after speech like a wussy saying its his predecessor’s fault. That seems to be all the O administration can do and the only thing that can do right- the blame game.

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larry

May 30th, 2012
11:24 pm

“Where is your proof that Obama wants to compromise?”

“Actually the Health Care Bill was a compromise ”

Really? The Republicans in the house had absolutely no input on the bill. The only compromise was between the far left and the blue dogs and the far left cussed them everyday for having to make the smallest compromise.

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Don’t forget,

I don’t know why you went on a tirade and called me freaking lazy when I’ve given a number of facts in my arguments. No call for that kind of rudeness on your behalf.

Your point on WW 2 being the ultimate stimulus isn’t quite valid. In a way its the ultimate stimulus and obviously just about every able bodied American was put to work. But the result of course was deficits and a lot of debt. We can’t afford to go into that kind of debt today given our already precarious financial situation which is worsening by the day.

And I want you to think about this for a moment. There have been 2 enormous govt interventions in our long history. And in both cases the obvious conclusion is that massive govt interventions simply made things worse. Look at the first 6-7 years of the great depression for example. Look at us now 3 years after stimulus.

Now look at U.S. economic history prior to the great depression. We had had several shocks and recessions including 2 downturns in the 1920s. Each time the govt stood by and did nothing. You know what happened? The economy recovered on its own. It always has. Why people think that “something has got to be done” despite economic history is beyond me. And do you remember the stock market crash of 1987? Its drop was about the same as the one in October of 1929. Know what reagan did? nothing. And yet we recovered just fine. Sometimes the best option is to do nothing and let things work themselves out as opposed to massive govt intervention which simply creates entirely new problems. And given the history and evidence of the great depression and the 07-08 recession it seems to me that govt intervention if anything has made things worse.

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“americans have a short memory”

We remember.

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u saying Mondale was Bo Ring?

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You got it. I coulld not even listen to him. He never got to the point. Kind of like Al Gore excpet more so.

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Had a lot of paperwork to finish up while blogging. I’m out and calling it taps.

Scout that 1 con voice against 5 lib voices in the media is a fair fight. Could you imagine the whining they would do if it was 2 con tv outlets instead of just one? I think they heads would explode.

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Thulsa:

You are so right. They can dish it out but ………………

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Oh, please, Cons, get over yourselves. Do you really want a return to the 8 years of George Bush? If not, vote for President Obama. Mitt Romney will only take us back there. Back there will take us back to the bread lines, to the former executives & bankers selling apples & pencils on the streets, OR to another war in which we will lose countless lives, our own & theirs, and uncounted treasure which could/should be used for infrastructure, for aiding the poorest among us, for getting our country back
on track to be the country our founders envisione

C

Ck on trac

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Can we call u booger like the character on good times because u deserve the same respect! Gives us all a break jay u got abc, cbs, nbc, and Cnn and jay bookman out there carrying obamas water and u want to complain about fox news what a joke u r and the liberal rag the ajc is so glad i canceled my subscription long ago! U r the new Cynthia Tucker but dumber! Might as well start crying now cause your socialist president is gonna get beat bad in november gonna be a landslide! Boo hoo jay cry me a river!!

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Obama is the worst politician and is no secret that he is aloof loner! He dies not even talk to his own party much less the republicans! Good politicians work across the aisle ala Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton who just happens to hate Obama like most in his own party! Jay Bookman would never tell u that it would be telling the truth something he seems to be allergic of! People like Jay prey on the dumb and uninformed and of course the government handouters! These people still dont realize we r the government our hard earned money for those that actually pay taxes is what makes the government work! Most people that want more government and socialism aint got no skin in the game and quite frankly probably never will!

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Jay
May 30th, 2012
6:15 pm

In the first place, Ty, those actually are supposed to be commercials, rather than commercials masquerading as news stories..

So what are the other media stooges at NBC, CBS, ABC masquerading as, Bookman? Certainly not as ‘news’ sources, Dan Rather and his made-up stories about GW Bush pretty much put the exposure on media bias and hypocrisy right out there.

And what is the difference between your drooling, slobbering love affair with all things democrat, progressive and/or socialist, except you do not pretend to be anything other?

You always fall back on the ” I’m an opinion writer” crutch, then try to pass crap like this as news?

Can’t have it both ways. Just continue your lapdog stooge mentality and presentation in your writing (don’t try to be a ‘news’ guy, your type just can’t cut it) because we all know what you are anyway.

President Romney, coming soon to a voting booth near you.

2012.

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Thanks Jay. Good simple and direct piece and judging from the comments, you can tell you’ve struck a nerve.

I’ll say it again:
1. If someone’s so stupid as to think that Obama is HIS/HER problem, good riddance. It might take them years, but they’ll eventually discover that their problem has always been their utter ignorance and clamoring to self-defeating principles/values, whatever ignorant label you’d choose to call it. By that point, Obama will be a multimillionaire, and they’ll still be stuck in their misery, perhaps still blaming him for it.

2. Fox News is not a news organization. Poll after poll suggests that you’re better off not watching Fox News.

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President Romney will straighten out Odumbos complete mess! U guys remember the liar and chief u know the one that said i will cut the deficit in half and George W Bush is unpatriotc for his high spending! What about this one there is no Red States or Blue States but the United States snicker snicker… This Obummer should be called the divider and chief. 1. Black versus White 2. Rich versus poor 3. Socialism versus Capitalism. President Romney will once again unite us!! Obummer has never run anything in his life but his mouth and that is what got him elected the first time. Now he has a record and has proven he is not a leader in any stretch of the imagination! President Romney will bring dignity back to the White House and not every decision he makes will be based on politics like Odumbo! Thank ubin advance President Romney!!!

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Normal’s cats…Those who know me will get it…

http://lolcats.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/05/29/funny-cat-pictures-kittehz-wivowt-konchuntz/

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May 31, 1859:
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Tell Big Ben happy birthday for me

Big Ben goes into operation in London

The famous tower clock known as Big Ben, located at the top of the 320-foot-high St. Stephen’s Tower, rings out over the Houses of Parliament in Westminster, London, for the first time on this day in 1859.

After a fire destroyed much of the Palace of Westminster–the headquarters of the British Parliament–in October 1834, a standout feature of the design for the new palace was a large clock atop a tower. The royal astronomer, Sir George Airy, wanted the clock to have pinpoint accuracy, including twice-a-day checks with the Royal Greenwich Observatory. While many clockmakers dismissed this goal as impossible, Airy counted on the help of Edmund Beckett Denison, a formidable barrister known for his expertise in horology, or the science of measuring time.

Denison’s design, built by the company E.J. Dent & Co., was completed in 1854; five years later, St. Stephen’s Tower itself was finished. Weighing in at more than 13 tons, its massive bell was dragged to the tower through the streets of London by a team of 16 horses, to the cheers of onlookers. Once it was installed, Big Ben struck its first chimes on May 31, 1859. Just two months later, however, the heavy striker designed by Denison cracked the bell. Three more years passed before a lighter hammer was added and the clock went into service again. The bell was rotated so that the hammer would strike another surface, but the crack was never repaired.

The name “Big Ben” originally just applied to the bell but later came to refer to the clock itself. Two main stories exist about how Big Ben got its name. Many claim it was named after the famously long-winded Sir Benjamin Hall, the London commissioner of works at the time it was built. Another famous story argues that the bell was named for the popular heavyweight boxer Benjamin Caunt, because it was the largest of its kind.

Even after an incendiary bomb destroyed the chamber of the House of Commons during the Second World War, St. Stephen’s Tower survived, and Big Ben continued to function. Its famously accurate timekeeping is regulated by a stack of coins placed on the clock’s huge pendulum, ensuring a steady movement of the clock hands at all times. At night, all four of the clock’s faces, each one 23 feet across, are illuminated. A light above Big Ben is also lit to let the public know when Parliament is in session.

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SuperPACs like Americans for Prosperity, Crossroads, and the US Chamber of Commerce are accepting donations from foreign interests, like Weatherford, Transocean, Halliburton, and News Corp….!!!!!

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Jay is just upset that the White House only controls most of the media – not all of the media!!

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aww. Someone fed “ken” a little story and now his feefees are hurt.

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Just to make it bleedin’ obvious for the morning wingers–when you try to equate FNC with MSNBC, you’ve already lost the argument.

MSNBC claims to be “the place for politics.” It’s dominated by commentary and doesn’t pretend otherwise.

Fox News Channel claims to be “Fair and Balanced.” They say “We report, you decide.” Both assertions are utter lies.

(I’ve pointed this out about a dozen times in here and I imagine I’ll do it a dozen times more, and we’ll still get this phony argument from the right about these respective cable outlets.)

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stands for decibels, and where is your DD214 ??

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What would my military service record have to do with lies you’re spreading about Chris Hayes, ken?

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Hahaha…Yawn….I love the fact Jay criticizes the video; but fails to point out any inaccuracy. Still waiting for that.

I guess Jay supports that school teacher who believes people should go to jail for talking bad about the president even if its the truth….well THIS president anyway.

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Fox 1, Lame Stream Media 306,904. Yep, we’re in the game…

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Fox and the Republican Brain

In his 1957 book “A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance,” Festinger built on his famous study of a doomsday cult called the Seekers, and other research, to lay out many ramifications of his core idea about why human beings contort the evidence to fit their beliefs, rather than conforming those beliefs to the evidence. That included a prediction about how those who are highly committed to a belief or view should go about seeking information that touches on that powerful conviction.

Republicans are so predictable. Then again, most cults are.

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Curious just Chris Hayes statement over the weekend that he has a problem calling fallen soldiers Heroes and the mere fact that Liberals only support the military when a Dumbocrat is in office!

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The problem with republicans is their ideology and propaganda. They believe every negative accusation tossed at oabama. They forget that they had complete control from 2000 – 2007 which resulted in the biggest economic calamity since the depression. Then they have the gaul to demand that obama “fix it” in his first three years or else he will be deemed a failure. What a joke and its politics not based in reality. Vote obama and vote to give the house back to the dems along with the senate. The democrats have their issues but the republican party is no where close to a viable choice…

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Can we say Idolatry?

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For all the right wing jackassery you hear around comments sections like Jay’s, I have to say there’ve been quite a few splendid things written in defense of Chris Hayes. Here’s another I stumbled upon:

http://www.nj.com/njvoices/index.ssf/2012/05/msnbcs_chris_hayes_hero_commen.html

So what was Hayes saying? Here’s my take:

Any free society worth the name will not shy away from that discussion.

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Blah blah blah Taxpayer why does Fox News irritate u libs so much is it because they r Number 1? Is it because the lamestream medias propaganda no longer works? Is it Jealousy? Now go back and kneel and pray on your Obama rug so u can start your day! I will help u get started! Obama, Obama, Obama,Obama my Socialist Messiah!! FOX News Rules!!!

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Fox “News” and its devoted following simply need to own up to the fact that their viewers are more misinformed than people that watch no news, for starters.

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I watch Fox News with the exception of an occasional stray to MSNBC that does not last long due to nausea. MSNBC, now there’s a political agenda posing as a news station.

Even with my support of Fox, I am glad they pulled the piece. It was not news and instead was a very well done expose of the Obama fraud.

Liberals have a valid point the piece was not news, but that is not what bothers them the most. No, the problem is, it exposes Obama for what he is – all talk and little action (please spare us the OBL BS, please).

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Mick W was screaming about fannie and freddie long before the collapse and the dumbocrats said not no but hell no but Mick we know since u r a dumbocrat that facts dont matter!! Move along nothing to see here! Its not ok to waterboard but its ok to assasinate and kill innocent civilians in the drone attacks!! Yeah that makes real sense not even suggesting i have problems with drones i have problems with double standards!!! President Romney will start governing from day one not ruling like Moochelle stated when Obummer won! What u desire is a ruler not a government official that works for the people! Please do us all a favor and find the country with a ruler and get the hell out of the US since that is what u desire!!

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MSNBC, now there’s a political agenda posing as a news station.

no, J-Reb, they quite clearly identify themselves as “the place for politics.” They don’t claim to be “Fair and Balanced.” They don’t say “We Report, You Decide.”

A little honesty here would go a long way.

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whatever

You need to do some serious reading and get off the fox news couch. Fannie and freddie caused the whole thing? Right…if anyone needs a new country it should be you mr. intolerant know nothing…

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We republicans want Socialism to fail and since obama stated he wanted to fundamentally change america ala Socialism we indeed from day one wanted him to fail!! Mick u obviously love handouts something for nothing! I will not apologize one bit!! OBAMA is a Socialist and i want him to fail did u get that micky? In November u will see many more Americans want it to fail also and President Romney will get this great nation back on track! I am sorry your freebies will be taken away but u gotta grow up sometime!! Wake up and read the paper sometime Socialism is failing all over the world!! If u would check out Fox News u would be more informed! Fox News Rules!

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“W was screaming about fannie and freddie”

From 2002, President George W. Bush, saying Freddie is “dismantling barriers” to help more people have home ownership, how “deserving families who have bad credit histories” can own homes, and that “the low income home buyer can have just as nice a house as anybody else.”

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whatever

Obviously, I don’t need to waste any more time with you….socialist agenda? Uh-huh…

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Hahaha…Yawn….I love the fact Jay criticizes the video; but fails to point out any inaccuracy. Still waiting for that.

Why ask Jay to defend something that he never asserted? There must be some kind of straw man academy that some posters here attend. I swear y’all can build a straw man faster than the average human blink.

Can you show where the video is “Fair and Balanced” as Fox claims to be? That’s Jay’s actual point, had you even bothered to read the grouping of letters and spaces above the video that forms words and sentences.

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“….what about the republican party as a whole? Working to make him (Obama) fail?”

Why, oh why does it never occur to Liberals that Republicans are not working to make Obama the man fail. No, we work to make his policies failures because we don’t agree with them.

Why don’t we agree with them the less informed ask? Because they are demonstrated failures. But why would we expect Liberals to understand that. Barry has spent 5 trillion and they want to give him more.

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And Just what do you think Jay’s blog would be about IF it was George W. who had a hit list or kill list being executed from the oval office? Think that would just get a shoulder shrug from the Libs as it did for our King. No, it would be a take to the streets that Cheney an Rumsfield were only missing SS uniforms.

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Stands

“absurd notion of corporate-owned media being left-wing”

It’s so much easier than thinking.

I heard that Obama has created Polish gulags in 57 states run by Saul Alinsky where they force middle class white guys to gay marry and have abortions for sex selection while playing Sesame Street songs way too loud and they slip birth control pills into the arugala salads.

Oh the humanity.

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I meant taxpayer on the above question on foxs three lies

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But why would we expect Liberals to understand that. Barry has spent 5 trillion and they want to give him more.

I can’t answer for Liberals, but you seem to forget one little Constitutional nugget. Appropriations begin in the House. Since the election of 2010, that chamber has been under GOP control. Any “spending” that Obama has done was approved by the GOP, therefore, it’s not just his spending. Since you want to be “fair and balanced” about things. I love how Reagan’s spending is blamed on his Democratic Congress, yet nary a peep about the GOP House when it comes to Obama’s. I wonder why?

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“Blah blah blah Taxpayer why does Fox News irritate u libs so much is it because they r Number 1?”

Doesn’t that make them the mainstream media?

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PIPA’s study of misinformation in the 2010 election didn’t just show that Fox News viewers were more misinformed than viewers of other channels. It also showed that watching more Fox made believing in nine separate political misperceptions more likely. And that was a unique effect, unlike any observed with the other news channels that were studied. “With all of the other media outlets, the more exposed you were, the less likely you were to have misinformation,” explains PIPA’s director, political psychologist Steven Kull. “While with Fox, the more exposure you had, in most cases, the more misinformation you had. And that is really, in a way, the most powerful factor, because it strongly suggests they were actually getting the information from Fox.”

And those Fox “News” viewers are so willingly brainwashed.

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Adam

Isn’t CNN that same channel where Erick Erikson gets camera time constantly and Breitbart editor Dana Loesch is a regular?

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they r Number 1?

in a small subset yes, but 30 or so more million people are watching
something more substantial.

you do understand the word subset right? media….broadcast…cable…

too much for you?

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Fox viewers are the most uninformed viewers on political FACTS than viewers of any other news station. MSNBC has intelligent, research-based news (especially Rachel Maddow)

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Take a break, Bookman. We police our own so you don’t have to.

From the WSJ: Fox programming executive vice president Bill Shine said the video was created by an associate producer and wasn’t authorized at the network’s senior level. He said senior executives wouldn’t have approved it and that the matter was addressed with the show’s producers.

Ed Morrissey, of the conservative media blog Hot Air, questioned the video even though he wrote, “I don’t disagree with much, if anything” that it says.

“If anyone wanted to look for evidence that the overall Fox News organization intends to campaign against Obama rather than cover the campaign, this video would be difficult to refute as evidence for that claim,” Mr. Morrissey wrote.

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Isn’t CNN that same channel where Erick Erikson gets camera time

Erick Erikson? The guy who just three years ago referred to the then-retiring Supreme Court Justice Stevens as a “goat-f#cking child molester”? Why yes.

And it’s not just “camera time.” Erikson is a paid CNN contributor.

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Lynie gal u r kidding right that girl is a habitual liar she will tell u half the story the half that proves her point but not the whole story msnbc is a editing joke cutting and splicing the lunatic channel and ed schultz fighting for the unions what a fraud the unions pay him 150k per year for seminars and other bs which obviously goes mostly for favorable coverage u guys who watch msnbc and think tere is muc truth r being hoodwinked

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“they r Number 1?”

No, they are not. They are the number 1 news CABLE Channel. They are consistently and constantly beaten by the prodcast news. They are only “number 1″ in a very limited audience.

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http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/politics/2012/05/31/ac-tuchman-birther-conspiracy-theory.cnn

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stands – the thought of you calling me a liar never entered my mind. I will rethink MSNBC as perhaps it is unfair to compare them to Fox. There is no doubt Fox is biased, but they do have opposing views often. Fox and Friends crossed the line with the piece in question.

One last thing on MSNBC – they should change their slogan to “the place for Liberal politics.”

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“the place for Liberal politics.”

well, they have had “Lean Forward” as a slogan for awhile; I always took that as code for “We’re progressive,” for what that’s worth.

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And there is an even more telling study of “Fox-only” behavior among conservatives, from Stanford’s Shanto Iyengar and Kyu Hahn of Yonsei University, in Seoul, South Korea. They conducted a classic left-right selective exposure study, giving members of different ideological groups the chance to choose stories from a news stream that provided them with a headline and a news source logo—Fox, CNN, NPR, and the BBC—but nothing else. The experiment was manipulated so that the same headline and story was randomly attributed to different news sources… Republicans and conservatives overwhelmingly chose Fox for hard news and even for soft news, and ignored other sources. “The probability that a Republican would select a CNN or NPR report was around 10%,” wrote the authors.

Bias! What bias! Ha Ha Ha. You Fox “News” viewers are such a riot.

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No liberal comment on what part of this evil video is not true. I didn’t seem much to disagree with. But killing the messenger always works. Helps to cover up the truth.

Fox pulled their own video made by their own people.

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and yeah, MSNBC is mostly liberal, although I think a fair number of their shows either lean somewhat right (Joe Scarboro, who has three hours every morning) or try to be fairly neutral (Andrea Mitchell? Don’t see much of her show, I assume she tries to play it down the middle.)

And I don’t know what you call their “Lockup” and other cheezy docu/reality things they run later in the evenings and on weekends. (Besides “lousy”, I mean.)

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Brosephus: Isn’t CNN that same channel where Erick Erikson gets camera time constantly and Breitbart editor Dana Loesch is a regular?

And there’s that.

Really even the conservative bloggers thought this one was out of line. But hey, if you guys want to feel content in how right you are and how you can just make reality whatever you want it to be, go ahead. Your bubble or big tent or whatever you call it will get smaller and smaller and you’ll just say “see? everyone else is insane but we inside this ever shrinking tent are sane!” I mean, really, good luck with that.

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I’m a Democrat. Served in the Army from Nixon through Clinton. I always thought I supported the military regardless of which party was in power. The only time I can definitely remember people disrespecting the military in large numbers was during the Vietnam War. How many of those folks are Liberals or Conservatives today can be argued, but I’d bet there is a mix. Was Cheney, Gingrich, etal any different than the ones protesting? There’s a lot of dead soldiers that carried their water because they had more important things to do. Letting someone else die in your place is what I call disrespect.

In my opinion, real disrespect is those that could have served, didn’t serve, and wrap themselves in the flag. Bottom line is they didn’t care enough about the country or their countrymen to pitch in and help out. All they need to do is look in the mirror and ask themselves “Where was I when my country needed me?”

Just like the Medal of Honor, the term “Hero” should be reserved for a select few that distinguish themselves on the battlefield. Getting killed is not a qualifier, although we need to be grateful for their sacrifice.

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So Jay… are you upset over the fact that Fox News put together the video? Or are you upset that everything they point out in the video (debt increasing, food stamp rolls increasing, gas prices increasing, unemployment increasing, etc.) is true?

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Rickster

May 31st, 2012
8:53 am

Another one of the “other” Republicans…

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curious

Strong words and true!!!

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Rickster: Or are you upset that everything they point out in the video (debt increasing, food stamp rolls increasing, gas prices increasing, unemployment increasing, etc.)

Actually, more than half that list is NOT true.

Unemployment has been decreasing for some time now: Source: BLS
Gas Prices have been decreasing and are lower than they were at this point last year: Source: GasBuddy
Food stamp rolls are DECREASING. Source: New York’s Human Resources Administration

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No challenge to Thomas’ comment on Tucker being the likely funny of the day, but I am getting a good chuckle from the posts trying to prove CNN is not liberal. CNN has gone to the way of Air America but managed to barely survive.

One lesson would be that Liberals may not be the best judge of what is Liberal.

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And it’s not just “camera time.” Erikson is a paid CNN contributor.

dB

I didn’t wanna overwhelm the non-thinkers with actual facts. From some of the reactions here, they don’t respond too well when such things are exposed to them.

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Butch

What is it about the truth that some people refuse to acknowledge and/or face??

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No liberal comment on what part of this evil video is not true. I didn’t seem much to disagree with.

No conservative comment on how that video represents Fox’s “Fair and Balanced” tagline either, which is Jay’s premise on this topic. However, there’s been a Burning Strawman Festival going on here about how apparently Jay’s accusing the video of being inaccurate.

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Silly essay, as if MSNBC does not regularly do puff pieces on the Oval Office Occupier. A leftist is someone who thinks CNN is objective. I the the Jeopardy question to this answer is “Who is Dan Lothian?”

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I listen to NPR every day, right after Rush. It is always good to get a different slant on things political…. you know, it’s good to know the enemy as well as you can. Most every commentary interview show between 3:00 and 5:00 when All Things Considered starts, is liberal commentary starting with Teri Gross and ending with Diane Rheme. In all of my years of listening to these shows, I have never listened to a conservative being interview on any of these shows or heard a reporter being interviewed that was not from the New York Times or the Washington Post. Their bias, is however, more subtle than Fox’s piece. It’s not an in your face commentary like the one on Fox, just innuendo, jokes and laughs about the right and intellectual snobbery. The arrogance is palpable and you get the feeling that they are up on some kind of pedestal looking down on the common man and making proclamations that could not possible be untrue or even biased. Just the truth. I would not kill the messenger with them any more than I would with Fox but Bookman, as usual, is telling only half of the story.

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Brosephus: However, there’s been a Burning Strawman Festival going on here about how apparently Jay’s accusing the video of being inaccurate.

Whether or not Jay says it, the video IS inaccurate. First and foremost it is not accurately represented as a fair and balanced review of Obama’s Presidency. For instance, Osama bin Laden isn’t mentioned AT ALL. Not even to try to take credit away from him.

2) Gas prices are going down, not up, and the President (no matter who it is) is not responsible for gas prices.
3) Unemployment rates (all of the ones measured, including discouraged workers or part time workers who want full time) are going down
4) Food stamp enrollment is decreasing over time

The video makes claims to the contrary in all of the above. They even clip Obama in with statements to make it appear as though he is increasing gas prices himself, increasing food stamps himself, and increasing unemployment himself – all on purpose.

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Wow, a media outlet with an opinion against the current POTUS! Shocker! Nothing like this ever went down when Bush was POTUS from other media outlets, no sir ree bob.

I can’t wait till this election cycle is over.

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Silly essay, as if MSNBC does not regularly do puff pieces on the Oval Office Occupier.

Let me explain why Tu Quoque doesn’t work: Because even if MSNBC didn’t exist, Fox News would STILL be a right wing organization with right wing views as a GOP propaganda machine. You have no defense against that, so you act like the people you disagree with ought to play by different rules than your own side does, and call that “fair and balanced.”

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Talking Head: Nothing like this ever went down when Bush was POTUS from other media outlets, no sir ree bob.

I’m sure you have examples of campaign videos against Bush that topped 4 minutes and contained nothing but attacks, aired by a News Organization during non-commerical time – TWICE.

Go on. Show me. I’ll wait.

Or you could just admit you made a false equivalence there.

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“Peadawg, opinion writers write opinions. Opinions are by definition are never fair and balanced.”

I get that. I’m not sure what you’re problem w/ my post is. I was responding to another blogger on here.

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Whether or not Jay says it, the video IS inaccurate.

I don’t have a dog in that fight. My point is to the posters who claim that Jay’s piece is because he’s saying the video is inaccurate. I’m waiting for someone to point to Jay’s exact words or phrase that shows as such. The fact that not a single Fox supporter can show where Jay’s actual premise, in that the video does not match Fox’s “Fair and Balanced” theme, is wrong is quite telling. If the video was indeed “Fair and Balanced” as Fox claims they are, why did the video disappear from their website? Why have they blamed some associate producer for the video? Does Fox News not have editors and/or some hierarchy that’s involved in actually running the business and making business decisions or is their business model akin to a monkey flinging feces against a glass wall?

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Come now. Cons know that Obama can only make gas prices go up. Cons know that Obama can only make unemployment go up. Cons know that Obama has nothing to do with the military. Cons know that only Obama is responsible for spending and taxes. After all, they heard it on Fox “News”. Their trusted source of fairly unbalanced entertainment.

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Fox News viewers are less informed than people who don’t watch any news at all.

That conclusion right there tells you that the study is bunk. For this to be true, watching Fox News would have to remove information from people’s minds. Is that the claim?

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Samantha,
Kids of any stripe who earn a scholarship by hard work and good grades deserve them. Wealthy families, whose kids are college qualified, but not eligible for a scholarship should have to pay for their kids education…or co-sign the loans…

Kids of poorer families, who haven’t qualified for a scholarship, but are otherwise eligible for college should have help from the Government to pay for their education. Afterall, an educated nation is best for all concerned.

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Adam,

Remember the downfall of Dan Rather? Rathergate?

http://mediamythbusters.com/index.php?title=Rathergate

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That conclusion right there tells you that the study is bunk. For this to be true, watching Fox News would have to remove information from people’s minds. Is that the claim?

Read the entire sequence of posts and find out for yourself what the results of the studies revealed. As for your “claims”, feel free to provide supporting studies for review.

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LIBERALS ARE IGNORANT

they rail against the 1%
yet they are led to this ranting by 1%ers who use and abuse the intellectual midgets to get elected
then they defend their liberal 1%ers

i weep for the future

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When news becomes so bias you have to put the reporter into the story as part of the plot. He, or she, is no longer a fly on the wall reporting like a camera the events, but becomes an author sometimes of fiction that decides an outcomes and then reports the event to reach that outcome. At first you do it for the pleasure of winning against a big brother who has always won, then you recreate for the greed of being able at artificialize reality and the money it brings.

In Keith Rupert Murdoch there is a man proven by fact gathered under oath to have exploited the boundaries of journalism for his own ends. It is like a fixed sporting event the outcome fitting the bet, yet not one conservative has a problem with this kind of conduct. They like reality filtered to the room temperature they desire. Their answer to this weak character is, in many cases falsely, the other side does it. Nope the other side was Walter Cronkite telling what historians call the the most trusted information of his time. You in turn invented the Fox Network, to the joy and enrichment of a foreign born owner with no stake in our country, which has become the fold to honest reporting. One thing even Murdock’s money can’t suppress for ever is the truth, if the baby is ugly all the money in the world can’t make it pretty. Like the free market there is a law of nature at work and truth is its highway. Fox and the Tea Party ran off the road a long time ago, and now is sell the smell of a sewer as fresh air and those who have never smelled fresh air are buying it.

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“as is their revulsion towards allegedly liberal (but really centrist) media outlets”

LOL, now that is funny as he&&! This is why you should never compromise with liberals. It is better to go down in flames and rise again without liberals. First we kick them all out of the political houses and then we kick them out of colleges. Then the road to recovery will be quick and hearty.

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This video is a prime
example of how easily
the Romney campaign
can use Obama’s words
against him just by going
to the video tape.

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“As for unemployment, within a few months we’ll be able to say it was less than this point in 2008 too.”

I agree.

“Actually, yes.” – Gas was less than $2 when Obama was elected, now $3.50. But it was b/c of the recession, which the video doesn’t mention. And the $3.50 is not Obama’s fault.

The video is being purposefully misleading w/ it’s numbers even if they are technically true.

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Peadawg: Gas was less than $2 when Obama was elected, now $3.50. But it was b/c of the recession, which the video doesn’t mention. And the $3.50 is not Obama’s fault.

Ahhhh but you said in 2008. Peak gas price in 2008 was $4.11 average, and on this exact date in 2008, it was higher then than it is now. In fact, it remained higher than it is now until September of 2008.

So nice try.

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“So nice try.” – Yeah you got me on a technicality there.

*polite golf clap*

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won’t it be funny when cox enterprises sells its media assets (THE AJC) to murdoch and newscorp

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willibkind: Obama is responsible today and will be trepsonisble tomorrow or until he is booted out of office.

If he is responsible today, then how come gas prices are down? In your view, it’s because if gas prices go down then other forces MUST have somehow made that happen, and that if prices go up that means Obama has somehow gotten control again. Convenient logic, that.

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Romney doesn’t need to lie about Obama…..He just needs to turn on the tape of him and his inner circle and enjoy.

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