Fox News lets the mask slip once again
This is not a Romney campaign ad. Not technically anyway.
It is a video produced by the Fox News Channel as a news product, a “fair and balanced” review of the Obama presidency to date. It was broadcast on the channel this morning.
Twice.
Since then, it has become such an embarrassment that Fox has made it vanish from its website.
UPDATE: The Fox PR folks emailed, asking that the following response be posted:
“The package that aired on FOX & Friends was created by an associate producer and was not authorized at the senior executive level of the network. This has been addressed with the show’s producers.”
–Bill Shine, Executive Vice President of Programming, FOX News Channel
– Jay Bookman
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Don't Forget
May 30th, 2012
11:11 pm
Krugman is calling it a depression now.
Thulsa Doom
May 30th, 2012
11:11 pm
Tired of the lies,
I also forgot to mention that the 14.6% unemployment in 1940 was higher than it was 3 years earlier at 14.3%. So if New Deal policies were working after a decade than why were things getting worse? Please explain sir.
td
May 30th, 2012
11:13 pm
TiredOfTheLies
May 30th, 2012
10:47 pm
TD – you’re blaming the problems on the President?
Not the GOP Congress that fails to compromise – yes, COMPROMISE.
Remember that thing that we were taught years ago in Social Studies – how government works?
First: Obama had two years of total Democratic control of congress and could pass whatever he wanted to pass so what happened to those two years<
Second: Compromise works both ways. Please show any document produced by Obama that is a compromise document? His budget is the only bill he has presented to Congress and it was rejected by every single Democrat. Where is your proof that Obama wants to compromise?
jewcowboy
May 30th, 2012
11:14 pm
If anyone actually cares, Media Matters carefully debunks this nauseatingly partisan piece of garbage:
http://mediamatters.org/research/201205300004
Not that any of the usual suspects from the right on this blog will bother to click a link or actually believe anything other than what they “know” to be true, if history is any judge.
larry
May 30th, 2012
11:16 pm
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/09/the-real-lesson-from-the-great-depression-fiscal-policy-works/
That Black Guy
May 30th, 2012
11:17 pm
TiredOfTheLies
May 30th, 2012
10:57 pm
‘Black Guy’
Good – wait, go ahead.
I watched lots of the debates and crapola. No, it’s not all the fault of one party.
But apparently only one party says ‘my way or the highway’. Those folks are scary. – Unfortunately, that party is called “Today’s politician” or did you forget the healthcare faux-debate?
Housing prices are dropping, demand is down, the economy isn’t really growing much.
Many noted economists say we are in a depression, but you won’t see that on ANY news channel. You won’t see any politician admit it either. That would scare down demand. (you see, the supply side stuff really doesn’t work….but it makes good rhetoric.) – Yet you trust Obama who says we are in a recovery?
Thulsa Doom
May 30th, 2012
11:20 pm
larry and Oscar,
You guys are certainly right about 1937. But I was talking about what started the great depression and the fact that massive govt intervention wasn’t working.
A massive new entitlement along with massive new taxes, and tightened monetary policy in a time of depressed economic activity certainly will exacerbate the situation. No argument there. I just consider the new taxes and a whole new program as more govt intervention while you guys called it austerity.
That Black Guy
May 30th, 2012
11:21 pm
TiredOfTheLies
May 30th, 2012
10:57 pm
‘Black Guy’
Good – wait, go ahead.
I watched lots of the debates and crapola.
__________________________________________________________
So, can you back up your accusations with proof, links, cites?
Anything other than your OPINION?
We’ll wait…
larry
May 30th, 2012
11:24 pm
Where is your proof that Obama wants to compromise?
Actually the Health Care Bill was a compromise . It was based on ideas from the Republican party in the mid-1990’s. The idea that people were freeloading on other people’s insurance. So the “insurance mandate” idea was brought about.
The idea was so popular , a certain governor of a certain northeastern state, a Republican governor, signed into law a health care law that was very much like the idea the Repubs had in the 90’s.
That Black Guy
May 30th, 2012
11:27 pm
TiredOfTheLies
May 30th, 2012
10:58 pm
Reference: Paul Krugman (hope I spelled it right) – How about an UNBIASED source?
one of those Nobel folks….- didn’t Obama get one of those things after being in office 1 month for what he MAY do? Also, Arafat, and q-Daffy (I think) also got one.
Yeah, they mean a lot now days.
Thulsa Doom
May 30th, 2012
11:28 pm
jewcowboy,
I actually clinked on the link and read about half of it. You coulda just said its W’s fault instead and that would have sufficed.
The article states that a lot the debt is a result of Bush’s policies. Going by that logic a lot of the debt period is due to LBJ’s policies since Medicare and medicaid were enacted during his watch.
Once O takes office though its his policies. He could have changed the W policies or just dumped them. The idea that we can blame W for all of the debt on a whole different president’s watch is ludicrous.
That Black Guy
May 30th, 2012
11:30 pm
Oscar
May 30th, 2012
11:01 pm
TiredOfTheLies
May 30th, 2012
10:57 pm
________
Everything is in the definition. How a depression is defined. Be the accepted definition we are not in one. Change the definition a little to fit and a we can say its a depression.
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Did Obama lead us from recovery into a depression?
Not sure I can vote for him AGAIN.
larry
May 30th, 2012
11:31 pm
If we didnt have government intervention, unemployment would have remained at 25% or higher , instead of the 9.6% in 1936.
But what i like about the New Deal is that the programs that started in the 1930’s are still benefitting people today. Programs like the TVA, all the state parks that were built by the CCC, the EMC’s, etc. The New Deal wasnt just about SS. Although it was part of it.
Thulsa Doom
May 30th, 2012
11:40 pm
larry
May 30th, 2012
11:31 pm
If we didnt have government intervention, unemployment would have remained at 25% or higher , instead of the 9.6% in 1936.
Larry,
You don’t know that. 2 months after the stock market crash in October unemployement rose and peaked at 9%, after which it began a general downward movement over the next several months down to 6.3% in June of 1930. Then the first of several major govt interventions in the way of Smoot Hawley occurred in June of 1930. By November unemployment reached double digits for the first time in a decade at 11.6%. And the double digit unemployment that began after the smoot hawley tariffs continued for every month throuhout the entire remainder of the 30s.
I’m not against all govt projects. Not even close. Some of them like the Hoover dam project are worthy and needed projects. My only point is that the govt just made things worse, much worse.
Don't Forget
May 30th, 2012
11:40 pm
Thulsa, why are you so freakin lazy????? First, get your numbers straight, you’re way low for both years. Then look at the trend and notice the rise in 1938. This occured after FDR was pressured into AUSTERITY measures. Wow, just like Keynes (and Romney for that matter) predicted. And before anyone says it was the war that ended the depression, think about that for a minute……….. What is a war? Especially a big one?? …….. It’s massive government spending and full government employment through a draft. Nobody wants a war (I hope) but the point is.. government stimulus works. The problem with Keynes wasn’t Keynes’s problem. He didn’t advocate deficits during good economic times, that’s what has been done but it’s not part of his economic theory.
jewcowboy
May 30th, 2012
11:41 pm
Thulsa Doom,
I thought the GOP was the “party of personal responsibility?”
“Going by that logic a lot of the debt period is due to LBJ’s policies since Medicare and medicaid were enacted during his watch.’
And all the other President’s before and since LBJ…might want to take a look at a kid named Reagan.
“He could have changed the W policies or just dumped them.”
What do you think he’s been trying to do?
“The idea that we can blame W for all of the debt on a whole different president’s watch is ludicrous.”
The idea that some blame Obama for where we find ourselves as a country today is even more ludicrous. Glad Bush never did anything like that.
North Korea:
Clinton reached a bilateral agreement that failed. -GW Bush
“The United States tried direct dialogue with the North Koreans in the ’90s, and that resulted in the North Koreans signing onto agreements that they then didn’t keep.” Condi Rice
Economy:
“Two-and-a-half years ago, we inherited an economy in recession.” GW Bush
Middle East:
“It wasn’t all that long ago where a summit was called [referring to Clinton's summit] and nothing happened, and as a result we had significant intefadeh in the area.” GW Bush
Re 9/11 (a three-fer, encompassing Clinton, Carter and Reagan):
“They looked at our response after the hostage crisis in Iran, the bombings of the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the first World Trade Center attack, the killing of American soldiers in Somalia, the destruction of two U.S. embassies in Africa, and the attack on the USS Cole. They concluded that free societies lacked the courage and character to defend themselves against a determined enemy.” GW Bush
Job losses:
“In the last six months of the prior administration, more than 200,000 manufacturing jobs were lost. We’re turning that around.” GW Bush (fun fact, at the time in his administration, there were job losses of 913,000)
In 2008, re the economy:
A senior administration official says the budgetary problems stem from what is believed to be inadequate defense, intelligence and homeland security resources that were handed down from Clinton.
Thulsa Doom
May 30th, 2012
11:44 pm
Larry,
TVA, state parks( although I thought the national park system started under Teddy R.), the rural electrification act(which may or may not have started in the 30s) were all good projects. I just think again that the massive govt interventions prolonged the depression.
That Black Guy
May 30th, 2012
11:48 pm
larry
May 30th, 2012
11:24 pm
Where is your proof that Obama wants to compromise?
Actually the Health Care Bill was a compromise . – A “compromise” to the “Blue Dog” dems.
It was based on ideas from the Republican party in the mid-1990’s. The idea that people were freeloading on other people’s insurance. So the “insurance mandate” idea was brought about. – If you support something in the past, you MUST support it NOW? I hope not, because I USED to be anti abortion and a repub.
The idea was so popular , a certain governor of a certain northeastern state, a Republican governor, signed into law a health care law that was very much like the idea the Repubs had in the 90’s. – Of course that has EVERYTHING to do with what happened in the HC faux-debate, even though those in Mass were NOT in the US congress during the HC faux-debate.
Other that that, GREAT points.
Don't Forget
May 30th, 2012
11:49 pm
Thulsa,
http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/recovery.htm
Thulsa Doom
May 30th, 2012
11:52 pm
“He could have changed the W policies or just dumped them.”
What do you think he’s been trying to do?
So when he had a Dem house and senate he couldn’t do anything? He did obamacare after all.
“The idea that some blame Obama for where we find ourselves as a country today is even more ludicrous. Glad Bush never did anything like that.”
Sorry jewcowboy but consistency counts. We don’t blame Clinton for W’s 5 trillion in debt. And so we don’t blame W for O’s 5 trillion in debt either. Each president has to assume responsibility for what happens on his watch.
Regarding that fellow Ronnie Reagan. There is a reason he won re-election with a 49 state landslide. You can’t argue the economic success of his era.
What’s with W and Condy’s North Korean quotes? So the Clinton administration failed in their negotiations with N. Korea. So. What the hell does that have to do with anything?
Did W spend the entire 8 years blaming Clinton? Sure. You can find a handful of selected quotes where they mention a failure of the previous administration. So what. But W didn’t go on appearance and speech after speech like a wussy saying its his predecessor’s fault. That seems to be all the O administration can do and the only thing that can do right- the blame game.
Oscar
May 30th, 2012
11:57 pm
I recently read one theory on the depression recently that the basic cause ws that due to development in farm technology and increase in production, farm prices dropped because of overproduction. That caused farmers to lose income, banks foreclosures of farms, displacement of farmers, high unemployment and the depression. We didn’t come out of it until factory production increased and after WWII we had factory employment. The thirties was a time of transition from people living and working on farms, losing them and then the ecomomy picked up again after the war with factory jobs.
td
May 30th, 2012
11:58 pm
larry
May 30th, 2012
11:24 pm
“Where is your proof that Obama wants to compromise?”
“Actually the Health Care Bill was a compromise ”
Really? The Republicans in the house had absolutely no input on the bill. The only compromise was between the far left and the blue dogs and the far left cussed them everyday for having to make the smallest compromise.
That Black Guy
May 31st, 2012
12:04 am
Nite nite
sleep tight
don’t let the partisan BS bite.
Thulsa Doom
May 31st, 2012
12:06 am
Don’t forget,
I don’t know why you went on a tirade and called me freaking lazy when I’ve given a number of facts in my arguments. No call for that kind of rudeness on your behalf.
Your point on WW 2 being the ultimate stimulus isn’t quite valid. In a way its the ultimate stimulus and obviously just about every able bodied American was put to work. But the result of course was deficits and a lot of debt. We can’t afford to go into that kind of debt today given our already precarious financial situation which is worsening by the day.
And I want you to think about this for a moment. There have been 2 enormous govt interventions in our long history. And in both cases the obvious conclusion is that massive govt interventions simply made things worse. Look at the first 6-7 years of the great depression for example. Look at us now 3 years after stimulus.
Now look at U.S. economic history prior to the great depression. We had had several shocks and recessions including 2 downturns in the 1920s. Each time the govt stood by and did nothing. You know what happened? The economy recovered on its own. It always has. Why people think that “something has got to be done” despite economic history is beyond me. And do you remember the stock market crash of 1987? Its drop was about the same as the one in October of 1929. Know what reagan did? nothing. And yet we recovered just fine. Sometimes the best option is to do nothing and let things work themselves out as opposed to massive govt intervention which simply creates entirely new problems. And given the history and evidence of the great depression and the 07-08 recession it seems to me that govt intervention if anything has made things worse.
Oscar
May 31st, 2012
12:06 am
Regarding that fellow Ronnie Reagan. There is a reason he won re-election with a 49 state landslide. You can’t argue the economic success of his era.
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The fact that he was running against Mondale didn’t hurt him either.
getalife
May 31st, 2012
12:16 am
“americans have a short memory”
We remember.
Thulsa Doom
May 31st, 2012
12:19 am
Oscar,
You saying Mondale was Bo Ring?
Oscar
May 31st, 2012
12:20 am
u saying Mondale was Bo Ring?
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You got it. I coulld not even listen to him. He never got to the point. Kind of like Al Gore excpet more so.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
May 31st, 2012
12:21 am
Fox vs. CBS/ABC/MSNBC/CNN/ACLU …………… so what ?
Thulsa Doom
May 31st, 2012
12:33 am
Had a lot of paperwork to finish up while blogging. I’m out and calling it taps.
Scout that 1 con voice against 5 lib voices in the media is a fair fight. Could you imagine the whining they would do if it was 2 con tv outlets instead of just one? I think they heads would explode.
G Mare 71(PLEASE VOTE NO ON TSPLOST)
May 31st, 2012
12:36 am
Okay, just can’t resist: tea party MEBER??? Faux News watcher?? Ah, the dumbing down of our country continues.
That said, I love my so right wing son-in-law because he adores my daughter and because both of them supported their son (MY grandson) as he worked toward becoming an Eagle Scout. I will never agree with his politics, as he will never agree with mine. BUT, we are family and we love each other ANYWAY.
Point being, we have to go back to the seemingly lost art of COMPROMISE. When one party refuses to do that, WE ALL SUFFER.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
May 31st, 2012
12:51 am
Thulsa:
You are so right. They can dish it out but ………………
John Davis
May 31st, 2012
12:53 am
Mr. Bookman has a problem with the unvarnished truth about the Obama administration. This is an excellent presentation, accurate and reasonable criticism of Obama. There is no problem with this. The facts of what has happened over the last 4 years do not paint a very pretty picture, and of course, Bookman is used to the typical liberal mainstream pro-Obama spin, so this seems unfair to him, when in actuality, it is a reasoned and accurate presentation.
G Mare 71(PLEASE VOTE NO ON TSPLOST)
May 31st, 2012
1:35 am
Oh, please, Cons, get over yourselves. Do you really want a return to the 8 years of George Bush? If not, vote for President Obama. Mitt Romney will only take us back there. Back there will take us back to the bread lines, to the former executives & bankers selling apples & pencils on the streets, OR to another war in which we will lose countless lives, our own & theirs, and uncounted treasure which could/should be used for infrastructure, for aiding the poorest among us, for getting our country back
on track to be the country our founders envisione
C
Ck on trac
Mister.Earl
May 31st, 2012
2:57 am
The Other
Birtherism is not an issue. It’s a slur that mainly benefits the Democrats. It ties the GOP to a fringe conspiracy theory whose racial animus is transparent: An African-American president must by definition be an alien, no matter what’s on his birth certificate. – Frank Rich
Thank you Fox News …. for the treasonous bile from unemployed Republicans
Whatever jay!!
May 31st, 2012
3:23 am
Can we call u booger like the character on good times because u deserve the same respect! Gives us all a break jay u got abc, cbs, nbc, and Cnn and jay bookman out there carrying obamas water and u want to complain about fox news what a joke u r and the liberal rag the ajc is so glad i canceled my subscription long ago! U r the new Cynthia Tucker but dumber! Might as well start crying now cause your socialist president is gonna get beat bad in november gonna be a landslide! Boo hoo jay cry me a river!!
Whatever jay!!
May 31st, 2012
3:33 am
Just cant believe how dumb obama supporters r complete idiots! I understand that black people vote for him because he is black even though unemployment in the black community is around 18 percent that dont seem to matter! Just look how stupid CNN is they have the worst ratings in 20 years because they r trying to get obama reelected and r liars and propagandists and too stupid to wake up and smell the coffee! President Romney will bring Capitalism back to America and finally squash the Liberal Agenda, thank goodness! Obama will go down as the worst President Ever! Jay Bookman will go down as just another Liberal Hack at AJC a rag of a paper!
Whatever jay!!
May 31st, 2012
3:49 am
Obama is the worst politician and is no secret that he is aloof loner! He dies not even talk to his own party much less the republicans! Good politicians work across the aisle ala Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton who just happens to hate Obama like most in his own party! Jay Bookman would never tell u that it would be telling the truth something he seems to be allergic of! People like Jay prey on the dumb and uninformed and of course the government handouters! These people still dont realize we r the government our hard earned money for those that actually pay taxes is what makes the government work! Most people that want more government and socialism aint got no skin in the game and quite frankly probably never will!
marko
May 31st, 2012
5:30 am
Watching Foxes little tirade, one things obvious, Obama over sold what he’d be able to accomplish In four years. Churchill only promised the English people blood, sweat and tears. Perhaps Obama didn’t fully understand how seriously bad the global economy really was. Casino capitalism didn’t just take down our economy, it took down Europe’s as well. Did he really believe that he could correct thirty years of bad economic policies in less than four years? If so, he deserves the blame for the massive disappointment so many seem to be feeling.
One things certain, we can’t blame Fox. They voted for McCain and Palin. If only we’d voted for those guys. They would have cut taxes, deregulated Wall Street, and drilled in everybody’s back yard. By now we’d be so happy we’d be whistling zippity do da out our collective A-holes. Oh my just think of what could have been.
Bud Wiser
May 31st, 2012
5:55 am
Jay
May 30th, 2012
6:15 pm
In the first place, Ty, those actually are supposed to be commercials, rather than commercials masquerading as news stories..
So what are the other media stooges at NBC, CBS, ABC masquerading as, Bookman? Certainly not as ‘news’ sources, Dan Rather and his made-up stories about GW Bush pretty much put the exposure on media bias and hypocrisy right out there.
And what is the difference between your drooling, slobbering love affair with all things democrat, progressive and/or socialist, except you do not pretend to be anything other?
You always fall back on the ” I’m an opinion writer” crutch, then try to pass crap like this as news?
Can’t have it both ways. Just continue your lapdog stooge mentality and presentation in your writing (don’t try to be a ‘news’ guy, your type just can’t cut it) because we all know what you are anyway.
President Romney, coming soon to a voting booth near you.
2012.
Jack
May 31st, 2012
6:00 am
Don’t watch Fox if it bothers you.
Charles M from NY
May 31st, 2012
6:05 am
Thanks Jay. Good simple and direct piece and judging from the comments, you can tell you’ve struck a nerve.
I’ll say it again:
1. If someone’s so stupid as to think that Obama is HIS/HER problem, good riddance. It might take them years, but they’ll eventually discover that their problem has always been their utter ignorance and clamoring to self-defeating principles/values, whatever ignorant label you’d choose to call it. By that point, Obama will be a multimillionaire, and they’ll still be stuck in their misery, perhaps still blaming him for it.
2. Fox News is not a news organization. Poll after poll suggests that you’re better off not watching Fox News.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
May 31st, 2012
6:08 am
Good morning, all y’all,,,
I laughed when I read that past article about how Fox News makes you more stupid. I truly thought it was a very funny parody worthy of “The Onion”…But reading these…ah…comments, I’m beginning to believe that the truth was written…Like I have always said…two kinds of Republicans…the rich…and the conned…
Whatever jay!!
May 31st, 2012
6:22 am
President Romney will straighten out Odumbos complete mess! U guys remember the liar and chief u know the one that said i will cut the deficit in half and George W Bush is unpatriotc for his high spending! What about this one there is no Red States or Blue States but the United States snicker snicker… This Obummer should be called the divider and chief. 1. Black versus White 2. Rich versus poor 3. Socialism versus Capitalism. President Romney will once again unite us!! Obummer has never run anything in his life but his mouth and that is what got him elected the first time. Now he has a record and has proven he is not a leader in any stretch of the imagination! President Romney will bring dignity back to the White House and not every decision he makes will be based on politics like Odumbo! Thank ubin advance President Romney!!!
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
May 31st, 2012
6:23 am
http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/05/30/political-pictures-god-bless-amercia/
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
May 31st, 2012
6:30 am
Normal’s cats…Those who know me will get it…
http://lolcats.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/05/29/funny-cat-pictures-kittehz-wivowt-konchuntz/
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
May 31st, 2012
6:33 am
What? No0t Hogwarts??!!
http://history.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/05/30/funny-pictures-history-stupid-owls/
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
May 31st, 2012
6:37 am
May 31, 1859:
USinUK,
Tell Big Ben happy birthday for me
Big Ben goes into operation in London
The famous tower clock known as Big Ben, located at the top of the 320-foot-high St. Stephen’s Tower, rings out over the Houses of Parliament in Westminster, London, for the first time on this day in 1859.
After a fire destroyed much of the Palace of Westminster–the headquarters of the British Parliament–in October 1834, a standout feature of the design for the new palace was a large clock atop a tower. The royal astronomer, Sir George Airy, wanted the clock to have pinpoint accuracy, including twice-a-day checks with the Royal Greenwich Observatory. While many clockmakers dismissed this goal as impossible, Airy counted on the help of Edmund Beckett Denison, a formidable barrister known for his expertise in horology, or the science of measuring time.
Denison’s design, built by the company E.J. Dent & Co., was completed in 1854; five years later, St. Stephen’s Tower itself was finished. Weighing in at more than 13 tons, its massive bell was dragged to the tower through the streets of London by a team of 16 horses, to the cheers of onlookers. Once it was installed, Big Ben struck its first chimes on May 31, 1859. Just two months later, however, the heavy striker designed by Denison cracked the bell. Three more years passed before a lighter hammer was added and the clock went into service again. The bell was rotated so that the hammer would strike another surface, but the crack was never repaired.
The name “Big Ben” originally just applied to the bell but later came to refer to the clock itself. Two main stories exist about how Big Ben got its name. Many claim it was named after the famously long-winded Sir Benjamin Hall, the London commissioner of works at the time it was built. Another famous story argues that the bell was named for the popular heavyweight boxer Benjamin Caunt, because it was the largest of its kind.
Even after an incendiary bomb destroyed the chamber of the House of Commons during the Second World War, St. Stephen’s Tower survived, and Big Ben continued to function. Its famously accurate timekeeping is regulated by a stack of coins placed on the clock’s huge pendulum, ensuring a steady movement of the clock hands at all times. At night, all four of the clock’s faces, each one 23 feet across, are illuminated. A light above Big Ben is also lit to let the public know when Parliament is in session.
Sarah Gee
May 31st, 2012
7:07 am
Here we have Jay bookman pimping for left wing causes all day every day in a paper so bad that the publisher takes out ads promising that the AJC is not still a left wing rag. No worries about Rather trying to steal an election with a patently false story, no worries about CNN and God knows, little Jay only applauds ( and repeats) what ever floats across the screens at MSNBC no matter how false or vile.
Bookman, you don’t have any crediblity to make this argument.
redneckbluedog
May 31st, 2012
7:10 am
SuperPACs like Americans for Prosperity, Crossroads, and the US Chamber of Commerce are accepting donations from foreign interests, like Weatherford, Transocean, Halliburton, and News Corp….!!!!!
redneckbluedog
May 31st, 2012
7:13 am
Jack
May 31st, 2012
6:00 am
Don’t watch Fox if it bothers you.
============================
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT…!!!! But it seems like it would violate some kind of campaign finance law……We’ll take care of Murdoch after they do in England…!!!!
Jim Turner I I I
May 31st, 2012
7:13 am
Jay is just upset that the White House only controls most of the media – not all of the media!!
ken
May 31st, 2012
7:17 am
MSNBC doese not admire the Military. JERKS
stands for decibels
May 31st, 2012
7:21 am
aww. Someone fed “ken” a little story and now his feefees are hurt.
Whatever jay!!
May 31st, 2012
7:23 am
Yeah really Jay (booger) Bookman just who should we watch? NBC that doctored the Trayvon Martin 911 tape to make Zimmerman sound like a racist! Thanks Fox news for reporting this from the daily caller or CBS Rather the blather or liar or PMSNBC with a thrill up their leg Matthews that gets their talking points and entire show from Media Matters or should we watch CNN Jay in which their credibility is so bad they had more viewers in 1990!! Thank God for Fox News Finally a Station that Holds all the other liberal stations accountable and they can no longer just report BS like they did for 60 years without any fact checking!!! ONCE AGAIN THanKs FOX NEWS! Kudos on the previous post about the Editor of AJC talking about changes at the AjC what a joke Jay Booger just took Cynthia Tuckers place as the Liberal (liar) hack!!! AJC SAME OL Liberal RAG!!!
stands for decibels
May 31st, 2012
7:24 am
Just to make it bleedin’ obvious for the morning wingers–when you try to equate FNC with MSNBC, you’ve already lost the argument.
MSNBC claims to be “the place for politics.” It’s dominated by commentary and doesn’t pretend otherwise.
Fox News Channel claims to be “Fair and Balanced.” They say “We report, you decide.” Both assertions are utter lies.
(I’ve pointed this out about a dozen times in here and I imagine I’ll do it a dozen times more, and we’ll still get this phony argument from the right about these respective cable outlets.)
Rightwing Troll
May 31st, 2012
7:26 am
Looks like one wingnut has had too much coffee this AM…
ken
May 31st, 2012
7:29 am
stands for decibels, and where is your DD214 ??
Jm
May 31st, 2012
7:29 am
Rt is right
Sfd take a chill pill
Minus the bath salts
stands for decibels
May 31st, 2012
7:33 am
What would my military service record have to do with lies you’re spreading about Chris Hayes, ken?
Whatever jay!!
May 31st, 2012
7:34 am
Stands for Decibels!!! U Should spend more time fact checking your Socialist Messiah u might find 2 sentences a day that contain half truths the rest of it is blatant BS!!! FOX NEWS RULES!!! President Romney will prevail despite all the liberal medias propaganda and thats what will make it all the better!!! President Romney is already beating them at their own game all of O’s Strategies r bombing even with Liberal Media carrying his water!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
Misty Fyed
May 31st, 2012
7:35 am
Hahaha…Yawn….I love the fact Jay criticizes the video; but fails to point out any inaccuracy. Still waiting for that.
I guess Jay supports that school teacher who believes people should go to jail for talking bad about the president even if its the truth….well THIS president anyway.
stands for decibels
May 31st, 2012
7:38 am
“Whatever jay”, do the remedial summer-school writing classes begin next week? And in the meantime are you helping Mom around the house like you promised?
cloudodust
May 31st, 2012
7:40 am
Fox 1, Lame Stream Media 306,904. Yep, we’re in the game…
curious
May 31st, 2012
7:40 am
Ken,
I’m retired Army and watch MSNBC & Fox. What makes you say MSNBC doesn’t admire the military?
TaxPayer
May 31st, 2012
7:41 am
Fox and the Republican Brain
The evidence is clear… Fox viewers are the most misinformed. But then comes the truly interesting and important question: Why is that the case?
To answer it, we’ll first need to travel back to the 1950s, and the pioneering work of the Stanford psychologist and cult infiltrator, Leon Festinger.
In his 1957 book “A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance,” Festinger built on his famous study of a doomsday cult called the Seekers, and other research, to lay out many ramifications of his core idea about why human beings contort the evidence to fit their beliefs, rather than conforming those beliefs to the evidence. That included a prediction about how those who are highly committed to a belief or view should go about seeking information that touches on that powerful conviction.
Republicans are so predictable. Then again, most cults are.
TaxPayer
May 31st, 2012
7:43 am
Ha Ha Ha. I love the fact that Fox pulled the video and immediately started finger-pointing at the person that made it. Why did the fairly unbalanced network pull the video from its site?
Whatever jay!!
May 31st, 2012
7:44 am
Curious just Chris Hayes statement over the weekend that he has a problem calling fallen soldiers Heroes and the mere fact that Liberals only support the military when a Dumbocrat is in office!
Whirled Peas
May 31st, 2012
7:44 am
I love Fox. Without them all we would have access to is the leftist drivel coming from the AJC and the rest of the “mainstream” press.
Mick
May 31st, 2012
7:45 am
The problem with republicans is their ideology and propaganda. They believe every negative accusation tossed at oabama. They forget that they had complete control from 2000 – 2007 which resulted in the biggest economic calamity since the depression. Then they have the gaul to demand that obama “fix it” in his first three years or else he will be deemed a failure. What a joke and its politics not based in reality. Vote obama and vote to give the house back to the dems along with the senate. The democrats have their issues but the republican party is no where close to a viable choice…
cloudodust
May 31st, 2012
7:45 am
Taxpayer, re: 0741 : We figured the cult part out about the DEM’s years ago…
Scooter
May 31st, 2012
7:45 am
Can we say Idolatry?
stands for decibels
May 31st, 2012
7:46 am
What makes you say MSNBC doesn’t admire the military?
curious, it’s because Chris Hayes, on his excellent weekend show “Up”, had the temerity to think out loud about the use of the word “hero” when describing each and every military member remembered on Memorial Day. Apparently we are not allowed to think about such things, and what these words actually mean.
Chris said:
“I feel uncomfortable about the word hero because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war. And I don’t want to obviously desecrate or disrespect the memory of anyone that’s fallen and obviously there are individual circumstances in which there is genuine tremendous heroism, you know, in a hail of gunfire, rescuing fellow soldiers and things like that. But it seems to me we marshal this word in a way that’s problematic. Maybe I’m wrong.”
You’re supposed to gasp in shock and horror that such a thing was ever said on the TeeVee, apparently.
stands for decibels
May 31st, 2012
7:48 am
For all the right wing jackassery you hear around comments sections like Jay’s, I have to say there’ve been quite a few splendid things written in defense of Chris Hayes. Here’s another I stumbled upon:
http://www.nj.com/njvoices/index.ssf/2012/05/msnbcs_chris_hayes_hero_commen.html
So what was Hayes saying? Here’s my take:
He was saying that words like “hero” are often used to trumpet and elevate war, to place war beyond scrutiny. And he is troubled by that. “Hero” and “patriotism” are often part of the rhetoric that forbids any questions.
The hyenas on the right wasted no time. They pounced. And Hayes apologized.
“As many have rightly pointed out, it’s very easy for me, a TV host, to opine about people who fight our wars, having never dodged a bullet or guarded a post or walked a mile in their boots,” Hayes said in a statement to the New York Daily News.
But wait, isn’t that exactly what U.S. soldiers fight for, our freedom of speech, our right to opine? How many people have opinions about poverty who have never been poor, who attend private schools but bash public schools, who can never get pregnant but express views trashing women who use birth control or choose abortion? The list goes on.
The fact is Hayes isn’t saying anything new about the power of words, jingoism and patriotism. From “All Quiet on the Western Front,” about World War I, to “Slaughterhouse 5” and “Catch-22” about World War II, literature is filled with this kind of agonized debate: Do we cloak the horror and absurdity of war in patriotic glory and heroism? Is it sometimes a cover for wars that have no justification?
Any free society worth the name will not shy away from that discussion.
TiredOfIt
May 31st, 2012
7:49 am
We deceive, you believe; Fox (GOP) TV
Whatever jay!!
May 31st, 2012
7:50 am
Blah blah blah Taxpayer why does Fox News irritate u libs so much is it because they r Number 1? Is it because the lamestream medias propaganda no longer works? Is it Jealousy? Now go back and kneel and pray on your Obama rug so u can start your day! I will help u get started! Obama, Obama, Obama,Obama my Socialist Messiah!! FOX News Rules!!!
Mick
May 31st, 2012
7:52 am
whatever
Animal planet is number one, averaging over 9 million viewers a night. Fox is a cesspool for repubs, wallow in it…
TaxPayer
May 31st, 2012
7:55 am
Fox “News” and its devoted following simply need to own up to the fact that their viewers are more misinformed than people that watch no news, for starters.
ken
May 31st, 2012
7:55 am
stands for decibles, WORDS MEAN THINGS, and yours tell us a lot about you.
JohnnyReb
May 31st, 2012
7:56 am
I watch Fox News with the exception of an occasional stray to MSNBC that does not last long due to nausea. MSNBC, now there’s a political agenda posing as a news station.
Even with my support of Fox, I am glad they pulled the piece. It was not news and instead was a very well done expose of the Obama fraud.
Liberals have a valid point the piece was not news, but that is not what bothers them the most. No, the problem is, it exposes Obama for what he is – all talk and little action (please spare us the OBL BS, please).
Mick
May 31st, 2012
8:00 am
If obama is exposed, then what about the republican party as a whole? Working to make him fail? Great objective for losers but in spite of it all, everything is trending in his favor. Why would we want to go backwards?
Whatever jay!!
May 31st, 2012
8:00 am
Mick W was screaming about fannie and freddie long before the collapse and the dumbocrats said not no but hell no but Mick we know since u r a dumbocrat that facts dont matter!! Move along nothing to see here! Its not ok to waterboard but its ok to assasinate and kill innocent civilians in the drone attacks!! Yeah that makes real sense not even suggesting i have problems with drones i have problems with double standards!!! President Romney will start governing from day one not ruling like Moochelle stated when Obummer won! What u desire is a ruler not a government official that works for the people! Please do us all a favor and find the country with a ruler and get the hell out of the US since that is what u desire!!
stands for decibels
May 31st, 2012
8:01 am
Yes, ken, words mean things.
And so I ask, seriously–now that you have the actual context of what was surely presented to you as simply “I feel uncomfortable about the word hero” — what is it about what Chris Hayes actually said, that is so offensive to you?
stands for decibels
May 31st, 2012
8:02 am
MSNBC, now there’s a political agenda posing as a news station.
no, J-Reb, they quite clearly identify themselves as “the place for politics.” They don’t claim to be “Fair and Balanced.” They don’t say “We Report, You Decide.”
A little honesty here would go a long way.
TaxPayer
May 31st, 2012
8:03 am
If Festinger’s ideas about “selective exposure” are correct, then the problem with Fox News may not solely be that it is actively causing its viewers to be misinformed. It’s very possible that Fox could be imparting misinformation even as politically conservative viewers are also seeking the station out—highly open to it and already convinced about many falsehoods that dovetail with their beliefs. Thus, they would come into the encounter with Fox not only misinformed and predisposed to become more so, but inclined to be very confident about their incorrect beliefs and to impart them to others. In this account, political misinformation on the right would be driven by a kind of feedback loop, with both Fox and its viewers making the problem worse.
Fox “News” viewers want to believe the misinformation so they do.
Mick
May 31st, 2012
8:03 am
whatever
You need to do some serious reading and get off the fox news couch. Fannie and freddie caused the whole thing? Right…if anyone needs a new country it should be you mr. intolerant know nothing…
Are you registered to vote?
May 31st, 2012
8:07 am
If you have any questions, call this number: 1-866-myvote1
Whatever jay!!
May 31st, 2012
8:10 am
We republicans want Socialism to fail and since obama stated he wanted to fundamentally change america ala Socialism we indeed from day one wanted him to fail!! Mick u obviously love handouts something for nothing! I will not apologize one bit!! OBAMA is a Socialist and i want him to fail did u get that micky? In November u will see many more Americans want it to fail also and President Romney will get this great nation back on track! I am sorry your freebies will be taken away but u gotta grow up sometime!! Wake up and read the paper sometime Socialism is failing all over the world!! If u would check out Fox News u would be more informed! Fox News Rules!
skipper
May 31st, 2012
8:10 am
Jay,
I reckon you need to watch Rachel Mad-woman, I mean Maddow to get “fair and balanced” info, right????? And CNN certainly would never dare tip to the left…..
TiredOfIt
May 31st, 2012
8:12 am
“W was screaming about fannie and freddie”
From 2002, President George W. Bush, saying Freddie is “dismantling barriers” to help more people have home ownership, how “deserving families who have bad credit histories” can own homes, and that “the low income home buyer can have just as nice a house as anybody else.”
stands for decibels
May 31st, 2012
8:15 am
Boy howdy, is there anything conservatives hold more dear to their hearts than the absurd notion of corporate-owned media being left-wing?
Mick
May 31st, 2012
8:15 am
whatever
Obviously, I don’t need to waste any more time with you….socialist agenda? Uh-huh…
Union
May 31st, 2012
8:16 am
funny stuff.. heaven forbid anyone show any failure from the “hope and change” mantra..
Brosephus™
May 31st, 2012
8:18 am
Hahaha…Yawn….I love the fact Jay criticizes the video; but fails to point out any inaccuracy. Still waiting for that.
Why ask Jay to defend something that he never asserted? There must be some kind of straw man academy that some posters here attend. I swear y’all can build a straw man faster than the average human blink.
Can you show where the video is “Fair and Balanced” as Fox claims to be? That’s Jay’s actual point, had you even bothered to read the grouping of letters and spaces above the video that forms words and sentences.
Whatever jay!!
May 31st, 2012
8:18 am
Hey J give me three lies that have been reported on fox News so we can have examples of their misstruths! I will go ahead and give u several main stream liberal lies 1. Nbc editing trayvon 911 tapes 2. Dan Rather lies about W’s military record 3. The duke lacrosse scandal now give me three fox news lies just so i have something to reference other than your opinion that they r not fair and balanced
JohnnyReb
May 31st, 2012
8:19 am
“….what about the republican party as a whole? Working to make him (Obama) fail?”
Why, oh why does it never occur to Liberals that Republicans are not working to make Obama the man fail. No, we work to make his policies failures because we don’t agree with them.
Why don’t we agree with them the less informed ask? Because they are demonstrated failures. But why would we expect Liberals to understand that. Barry has spent 5 trillion and they want to give him more.
TaxPayer
May 31st, 2012
8:19 am
When are people most likely to seek out self-affirming information? Hart found that they’re most vulnerable to selective exposure if they have defensive goals—for instance, being highly committed to a preexisting view, and especially a view that is tied to a person’s core values. Another defensive motivation identified in Hart’s study was closed-mindedness, which makes a great deal of sense. It is probably part of the definition of being closed-minded, or dogmatic, that you prefer to consume information that agrees with what you already believe.
So who’s closed-minded? Multiple studies have shown that political conservatives—e.g., Fox viewers–tend to have a higher need for closure. Indeed, this includes a group called right-wing authoritarians, who are increasingly prevalent in the Republican Party. This suggests they should also be more likely to select themselves into belief-affirming information streams, like Fox News or right-wing talk radio or the Drudge Report. Indeed, a number of research results support this idea.
Those Fox “News” viewers probably did not realize that they were being studied so closely either. They are a fascinating sort. They’ve actually helped more than they realize with advancements in some key areas of interest regarding the human brain.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
May 31st, 2012
8:20 am
And Just what do you think Jay’s blog would be about IF it was George W. who had a hit list or kill list being executed from the oval office? Think that would just get a shoulder shrug from the Libs as it did for our King. No, it would be a take to the streets that Cheney an Rumsfield were only missing SS uniforms.
JohnnyReb
May 31st, 2012
8:20 am
stands – I wrote the piece was not news. Is that not honesty?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
May 31st, 2012
8:21 am
Stands
“absurd notion of corporate-owned media being left-wing”
It’s so much easier than thinking.
I heard that Obama has created Polish gulags in 57 states run by Saul Alinsky where they force middle class white guys to gay marry and have abortions for sex selection while playing Sesame Street songs way too loud and they slip birth control pills into the arugala salads.
Oh the humanity.