Why does GOP continue to tolerate Trump?

To ease us back into the political world after a great holiday weekend, a semi-playful little question:

What is it with the Republicans and Donald Trump?

The guy’s a Class A jerk who’s still out there peddling the toxic nonsense that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. He’s also publicly lobbying for a prime speaking spot at the GOP convention in Tampa, and for all we know, he may actually get one.

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I mean, Mike Huckabee has seriously suggested Trump as a replacement for Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, and Mitt Romney continues to play along with the fool as well, both seeking and touting Trump’s endorsement. Romney has even agreed to appear at a major fundraiser hosted by Trump tonight in Las Vegas. (Newt Gingrich is expected to attend as well, creating a concentration of egomania that may very well skew the Earth’s gravitational field.)

And how does Romney respond to the question that he lends credibility to Trump and his birther nonsense by publicly appearing by his side?

“You know, I don’t agree with all the people who support me and my guess is they don’t all agree with everything I believe in. But I need to get 50.1 percent or more and I’m appreciative to have the help of a lot of good people.”

I’m not the George Will fan that I used to be, but over the weekend Will got it right:

“I do not understand the cost benefit here. The costs are clear. The benefit — what voter is going to vote for (Romney) because he is seen with Donald Trump? The cost of appearing with this bloviating ignoramus is obvious, it seems to me. Donald Trump is redundant evidence that if your net worth is high enough, your IQ can be very low and you can still intrude into American politics.”

To which Trump responded via Twitter:

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As insults go, Will definitely wins higher marks, although it should also be said that with Trump as his target, Will had a little better raw material to work with. And while “bloviating ignoramus” earns bonus points as a nice, rhythmic, multi-syllabic compound, it falls well short of the classic description of Trump as a “short-fingered Vulgarian.”

The return fire from Trump, however, was disappointedly pedestrian. The American people have come to expect more from a veteran of media feuds with the likes of Rosie O’Donnell and others. They know that while Trump has always lacked wit, his utter lack of class and manners has usually served as a rhetorical combover to hide those shortcomings. Boilerplate such as “dumbest and most overrated” simply is not up to — or more accurately down to — what we’ve come to expect from The Donald.

– Jay Bookman

551 comments Add your comment

Fred ™

May 29th, 2012
8:36 am

He is a perfect example of the joke that the GOP has become. What else needs said? :lol:

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
8:37 am

hahaha … what Fred said.

Fred ™

May 29th, 2012
8:41 am

What gets me about Trump is that he’s a cheat yet folks love him. How many times has he gone “bankrupt” and walked away with 10’s of millions while leaving his investors screwed? In that way alone he is a perfect fit for today’s Republican party and it’s horde of wannabe lick spittles who fawn up to the super wealthy advancing their agenda to rip everyone off, take their money over seas while paying no taxes, all the while getting screwed by those they are “supporting”. It defies all rational thought and logic.

godless heathen

May 29th, 2012
8:41 am

“rhetorical combover”

2 thumbs up, Jay. I think you put up a Donald blog just so he could use that one.

Project Dreamz

May 29th, 2012
8:41 am

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

May 29th, 2012
8:43 am

“Why does GOP continue to tolerate Trump?”

Money and Celebrity.

Oh and general wimpy wussy squishiness about what is right and wrong.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
8:43 am

Fred – 8:41 – a financial cheat. a marital cheat.

and yet, this is the SAME party that said about Clinton “if a president can’t uphold his marital vows, what ELSE is he going to cheat on???”

Mick

May 29th, 2012
8:45 am

What is it with republicans and the rich? Money and the pursuit of, trumps everything. They can have him…

Joseph

May 29th, 2012
8:45 am

Simply because you left wing freaks foam at the mouth every time you see him…. Why should we throw him under the bus like the dems do to their own all the time? (Booker, Ford, Wright, Ayers)…

Steve

May 29th, 2012
8:47 am

What a sad world we live in, where one’s personal gain (wealth) trumps (pardon the pun) sanity. The GOP would sell their own children into slavery if it meant more personal tax cuts and financial gain.

josef

May 29th, 2012
8:50 am

Trump could at least copy Biden’s model and get his store bought hair from a domestic producer…
On the other hand, we can all use a little comic relief…Thanks, Imam, even if you did cost me wager…

Peter

May 29th, 2012
8:51 am

Perfectly said……

What gets me about Trump is that he’s a cheat yet folks love him. How many times has he gone “bankrupt” and walked away with 10’s of millions while leaving his investors screwed?

Not only that……. the next example of the same thing is Newt, who was running to be the President via the GOP…..He will do the same thing rip off his creditors, and campaign workers………. How about that ripping off his OWN !

YUP that is the example the Republican’s have, and the lemmings are just following that !

kitty

May 29th, 2012
8:52 am

Let’s hope what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas or the world may slip off its axis with that much ego in one place for The Donald’s fundraiser.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
8:52 am

“Why should we throw him under the bus like the dems do to their own all the time? (Booker, Ford, Wright, Ayers)…”

:lol:

Trump = Ayers

YOU made that comparison, deary, not us …

Gale

May 29th, 2012
8:54 am

If the GOP found some sanity in their message and members, they would likely lose the fringe, but they would gain at least that many from the independent middle.

St Simons - now with hamster power!

May 29th, 2012
8:54 am

Why does GOP continue to tolerate Trump?

well, he’s their base-jumper dude.

He keeps their WWE and reality teevee base interested/stimulated.

Julia

May 29th, 2012
8:56 am

Aw, seriously, look at what we as a culture have sunk to, fawning over the likes of the Kardashians and Paris Hilton. why wouldn’t the GOP salivate over The Donald? It is the almighty dollar and the culture , or lack there of, of celebrity.

God help us all.

Fred ™

May 29th, 2012
8:57 am

St Simons? how is the weather? Didn’t leave this morning like we were going to, hopefully though we’ll leave by around 5 or 6. Will that put us at Amelia before midnight you think?

Gordon

May 29th, 2012
8:58 am

I guess the same reason the Democrats continue to tolerate Al Sharpton.

Whirled Peas

May 29th, 2012
8:58 am

I love The Donald. He is constantly sticking his thumb in the eyes of dumb liberals like Bookman. Wait, I forgot. Bookman claims he is not liberal. He is a Progressive. Same thing. A liberal thinks progress is government taking more from those who produce and give to the non-productive while a progressive thinks progress is taking more from the rich so everyone will have the same amount of poverty and misery. Same thing.

Bruno

May 29th, 2012
8:58 am

Hmmm–Another “Better Living Through Insult” column from Jay. Big shock.

USinUK–Did you by chance watch “Iron Lady”?? As a lot of reviewers noted, they spent a little too much time dramatizing her current dementia and too little time covering her actual political career, but a decent flick overall. B and I watched it last night. I’ve been thinking about sending you the Director’s Cut for Christmas. ;-)

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
8:59 am

“well, he’s their base-jumper dude”

instead of Buildings, Antennae, Span and Earth

it stands for BLOATED, ARROGANT, SELFISH, EGO

barking frog

May 29th, 2012
9:00 am

Georgia on my mind...

May 29th, 2012
9:00 am

Did George W. Bush endorse Mitt Romney?

St Simons - now with hamster power!

May 29th, 2012
9:00 am

bankrupt (literally) ideology
fake patriot
and he pretends to be rich like walmart republicans

it’s called ‘target marketing’

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
9:01 am

Hiya B-dawg!!!

I haven’t seen it, yet (the Mister isn’t big on political movies – and, at best, he can take/leave Thatcher) –

if you liked that, you should try to get your hands of The Long Walk to Finchley about her rise in politics

Ted

May 29th, 2012
9:02 am

As least Trump is not as dense as Mike Luckovich. And he does have some good zingers.

Aquagirl

May 29th, 2012
9:03 am

Why should we throw him under the bus

Because that’s where insane @$$holes belong. I can see how this point would completely sail over your head.

barking frog

May 29th, 2012
9:03 am

You’re Fired!

Michael

May 29th, 2012
9:04 am

He represents a wing of the Pubs, that Romney cant win on his own. The wing nuts I call them. Kind of like Peas and Fred.

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

May 29th, 2012
9:04 am

Play to the base, baby. Play to the base.

Shawny

May 29th, 2012
9:04 am

The question of the day is akin to why to the democrats tolerate Bill Maher. He is vile, hateful, and disgusting.

“Many of the truths we cling to depend on our point of view” – Obi Wan Kenobi

Jay

May 29th, 2012
9:04 am

Fred, one question:

Would you consider “delusional lickspittle” to be name-calling?

Thomas Heyward jr

May 29th, 2012
9:05 am

Trump is the Dennis Hopper of politics.
.
Romney is Ron Howard with Psychosis.
.
Obama……Steven Quincy Urkel.

St Simons - now with hamster power!

May 29th, 2012
9:06 am

Fred – no, be careful, don’t speed dude. slow downnnn
its de island mon – let it come to youuuu

josef

May 29th, 2012
9:07 am

TED

trump? Zingers? Now THAT is funny…he has all the wit and charm of a pit viper and the grace and poise of a bull elephant…

Darwin

May 29th, 2012
9:07 am

Because birds of a feather…

Fred ™

May 29th, 2012
9:07 am

Jay

May 29th, 2012
9:04 am

Fred, one question:

Would you consider “delusional lickspittle” to be name-calling?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

No I would consider it a description, just like Josephs, “you left wing freaks.”

Apparently you disagree? What are the “boundries then? Why does ANYONE who isn’t a delusional right wing lickspittle have to be a left wing freak? Please explain to me the difference because I don’t see it.

USMC

May 29th, 2012
9:08 am

“Why does GOP continue to tolerate Trump?”–Jay

“The Donald” is NOT running for President. (thank goodness)

Personal attacks on “The Donald” are NOT going to help Comrade Obama and his failed non-economic policies, etc. But good try, Jay.

Why do the DemocRats continue to tolerate the Socialist Leftwing of the Party? :-)

td

May 29th, 2012
9:09 am

Trump is correct in his assessment. Will maybe a Republican but he is not a conservative and if the Republicans listen to him then they will lose.

USMC

May 29th, 2012
9:09 am

“Why does GOP continue to tolerate Trump?”

Cynthia McKinney, Anyone? :-)

josef

May 29th, 2012
9:09 am

“Would you consider “delusional lickspittle” to be name-calling?”

Well, yeah, but give it its points for originality…

RAMZAD

May 29th, 2012
9:09 am

Repukelicans like to wallow in puke. Trump is the latest Repukelican fascination with with puke.

Rafe Hollister

May 29th, 2012
9:10 am

concentration of egomania that may very well skew the Earth’s gravitational field.

Don’t get too worried Jay, you forgot the offsetting greater egomania in the White House with Oblamer/Biden. I think the gravitational field is safe thanks to Oblamer.

Fred ™

May 29th, 2012
9:11 am

Shawny

May 29th, 2012
9:04 am

The question of the day is akin to why to the democrats tolerate Bill Maher. He is vile, hateful, and disgusting.
+++++++++++++++++++++

To date, I yet yet to see anyone on this blog, left, right, or independent express anything for Bill Maher other than contempt.

Can you provide any proof for your accusation? Or are you just repeating some bumper sticker lines?

Jay

May 29th, 2012
9:12 am

Fred, the difference is that you directed it at one poster in particular.

One-day suspension.

Fred ™

May 29th, 2012
9:13 am

USMC

May 29th, 2012
9:09 am

“Why does GOP continue to tolerate Trump?”

Cynthia McKinney, Anyone?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What does the Green Party have to do with your love of Trump? Are ypou saying you love the nut case Cynthia as well? Is it just universal love you have for ALL nutcases lol?

Sarah Gee

May 29th, 2012
9:13 am

Why do the democrats continue to tolerate…
Jerry Brown
Dennis Kusinich
Bernie Sanders
Howard Dean
Rachel Maddow
Ed Schultz
Vincent Fort
Shelia Jackson Lee
Barbara Boxer
Joe Biden

The list of liberal nutcase hypocrites could go on forever…
It’s easier to be a “columnist” that we thought.

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
9:13 am

rhetorical combover

Bravo!

Well done, Jay!

The antithesis of the tawdry reality TV clown – witty and funny…

Many years ago I figured out that Reagan was not the problem. He was merely the symptom of the Republican’s fakeconservativitis.

Trump is living proof that it has become a pandemic among them…

td

May 29th, 2012
9:14 am

Fred ™

May 29th, 2012
9:11 am

“To date, I yet yet to see anyone on this blog, left, right, or independent express anything for Bill Maher other than contempt.”

But maybe you and a great deal more libs on this page keep watching his show.

Jm

May 29th, 2012
9:14 am

Trump is a doofus

Always has been

Always will be

Messes continue in Syria Iran Afghanistan Iraq Europe and the US

Romney has a 24% margin among vets

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
9:15 am

lickspittle???

dude, that’s not just name-calling … that’s kickin’ it OLD SCHOOL!!

Mick

May 29th, 2012
9:15 am

Bernie sanders is a great american! Smart man full of compassion and wit, what’s not to like about that man???

Jm

May 29th, 2012
9:15 am

Sadly, Obama might be a bigger clown than the Donald

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

May 29th, 2012
9:15 am

“I guess the same reason the Democrats continue to tolerate Al Sharpton”

Bingo

josef

May 29th, 2012
9:16 am

FRED

Sois sage, mon ami léche-crachat délirant… :-)

Aquagirl

May 29th, 2012
9:18 am

Cynthia McKinney, Anyone?

Why no thank you, the Democrats kicked her to the curb. Like sane people. Nobody’s begging for her endorsement or asking her to speak at conventions. See how that works?

Your extraordinarily lame attempt at rebuttal only highlights the difference between Democrats and Republicans, maybe you should rethink how you’re “helping” Republicans with your comments.

KJHF

May 29th, 2012
9:18 am

Jay, they are tolerated for the same reason the dems tolerate SEIU and OWS – they all need someone to say / do the dirty work.

Ted

May 29th, 2012
9:19 am

Trump is a big business guy, and a relentless self promoter, but he echoes the frustrations of small business guys. And that’s why people like him. He is not predictable like Luckovich or Bookman.

Romney Economics

May 29th, 2012
9:19 am

Mitt Romney’s record as a corporate buyout specialist is under examination. The decisions he made at Bain Capital — loading companies with debt, sometimes to the point of bankruptcy, but walking away with millions in profit — show that his values in the White House would have a devastating impact on America’s middle class.

Romney is running on what he says is his record of creating “over 100,000 jobs” in the private sector — a claim that doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny. Regardless, Romney’s mission in the private sector wasn’t to create jobs — it was to maximize profits for his investors

Jefferson

May 29th, 2012
9:20 am

Money worship, or envey.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
9:20 am

My favorite nickname for Mr. Trump rhymes with “spithead.”

That said, I’m not calling for him to pipe down. I *want* him to keep running his yap and to keep associating himself with Romney. The more an overbearing, arrogant jackass of a billionaire like Trump keeps painting himself as some sort of paragon for the GOP to emulate, the more the Democrats can use that ‘out of touch rich dudes’ argument to beat Romney silly.

Rock on, Donald.

josef

May 29th, 2012
9:20 am

IMAM

D*mn, you in one foul-ass mood this a.m., aincha?

Jay

May 29th, 2012
9:21 am

While we regularly see conservatives on this blog quoting Rush Limbaugh and Boortz, I cannot remember a single liberal ever quoting Bill Maher. The only people who even bring up his name are conservatives….

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
9:21 am

Gordon, Joseph, Ted, KJHF and Sarah,

Am I to presume that you think Trump really lends legitimacy to the GOP?

That is a yes or no answer. Feel free to expound as you will.

But please no more red herrings, it’s starting to smell rather fishy around here!

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
9:21 am

Al Sharpton and Bill Maher ring a bell for dumb comments supporting the left…..And you gotta love this morning that Gov. Jerry Brown is OK with the State workers getting their raise next year……And they have a 16 BILLION dollar short fall this year………………Yep, raise the taxes……Next problem please…….GEEZ.

josef

May 29th, 2012
9:22 am

TED

Don’t know how predictable the Imam is…he’s already cost me one burger this a.m.

Jay

May 29th, 2012
9:22 am

Not at all, Josef.

But our friend Fred is a serial offender, as he well knows.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
9:22 am

R. Hollister — “Don’t get too worried Jay, you forgot the offsetting greater egomania in the White House with Oblamer/Biden.”

Well, Mr. Obama *is* the President. And Mr. Trump is some guy on a TV show I don’t watch. I think some ego is justified in the White House.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
9:23 am

Romney’s resume vs Obama’s……………Is that a debate you Libs want?

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
9:24 am

S. Gee — “The list of liberal nutcase hypocrites could go on forever . . .”

I’d like to know specifically how Rachel Maddow, Ed Schultz and Bernie Sanders are hypocrites, please.

Ted

May 29th, 2012
9:25 am

I don’t see any bloggers quoting Limbaugh or Boortz, other than to criticize them. Can to prove your point, Jay?

Steve

May 29th, 2012
9:25 am

Bill Maher is a comedian. He’s not a business magnate who is running around promoting candidates like Trump. Maher is actually pretty funny. As is John Stewart. They are comedians.

Patrick

May 29th, 2012
9:25 am

I’ve noticed that Trump is always big on “family honor”. If anyone ever says anything that he sees as insulting about anyone in his family he goes balistic and comes back at them like a pitbull.

What are the chances that Trump will EVER apologize to President Obama and his family (including his late mother and grandparents) for suggesting they fraudulently altered birth certificates, birth announcements, etc. and repeatedly lying about the President’s citizenship status?

Apologies from Trump are long overdue–but Trump is too small of a person (despite his overblown ego) to man up and say “I’m sorry”.

mm

May 29th, 2012
9:25 am

Trump is the poster child for what ails the GOP. Their voters swoon over him because he is rich, or so he says. The cons believe idolizing the rich will cause the rich to rain money on them.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

May 29th, 2012
9:26 am

Well, I reckon there’s about 2 billion reasons why the GOP puts up with Trump. Besides, him and Mr. Mormon Underpants both love to fire people, so it’s kinda natural they would get together. If not for those two there wouldn’t be no need for unemployment offices in this country.

Anyhow, it’s Monday on Tuesday out here and I’m already ticked off. What’s with these people that walk around singing when there’s complete strangers around? I mean, it’s not like there’s some record producer that’s going to come into a store and beg them to come to Nashville to make a album. Got news for you, sweet lips: If your voice was that good, you’d already be rich. Chances are you couldn’t get picked for your church choir.

Anyhow, have a good Tuesday everybody.

Jefferson

May 29th, 2012
9:27 am

Sure, Romney’s got nothing.

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 29th, 2012
9:28 am

“Can to prove your point, Jay?”

Just stick around a bit. The quoters will prove it for him.

Gordon

May 29th, 2012
9:28 am

JamVet,

Can’t speak for the others, but I don’t think Trump lends legitimacy to the GOP. He is very good at what he does, however.

Joseph

May 29th, 2012
9:28 am

USinUK – pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

I’m not comparing Trump to the Dem thugs and race hustlers. Just the actions by dems for political reasons are comparable…

Look before I leap...

May 29th, 2012
9:28 am

Every team needs comic relief.
The GOP has chosen the Donald.

Lord Help Us

May 29th, 2012
9:28 am

”Romney’s resume vs Obama’s……………Is that a debate you Libs want?”

I’d prefer more apples to apples…Romney’s record while governing Mass vs. Obama’s record governing the US…

Much more illuminating.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
9:29 am

Boortz and Limbaugh have a public format which they are paid for. They ( at least we admit it) have a right wing bias. Trump is just a businessman calling it likes he see’s it.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
9:29 am

“he echoes the frustrations of small business guys”

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

ohsweetjeebus … and the hits just keep on coming …

that is the perfect example of how the GOP is snowing the middle class … if ANYone thinks that Trump’s problems and frustrations have anything even remotely to do with small business owners, please stand up … we need to know who you are so that we don’t let you operate heavy machinery.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
9:29 am

Ted — “I don’t see any bloggers quoting Limbaugh or Boortz, other than to criticize them. Can to prove your point, Jay?”

I am fond of quoting one particular Limbaughism on Jay’s blog, to wit:

“Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.”

Point proven, then?

bluecoat

May 29th, 2012
9:30 am

@Fred-I thought you were describing Romney.

josef

May 29th, 2012
9:30 am

IMAM

“serial offender”

Either that or a cereal offender. Is he the one who put the thumbtacks in your Cheeri-os this a.m.?

And personal insults? Gevalt, Mate, he’s minor league compared to some hereabouts…imauo…but, well, it’s your sandbox…

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
9:31 am

“I’m not comparing Trump to the Dem thugs and race hustlers”

hate to be the one to break it to you … but, yeah, you did.

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
9:32 am

I have a dream that future GOP nominees will one day live in a nation where they will be judged by the contents of their bank accounts, not by the content of their character. ~Martin Luther Trump, Sr.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
9:33 am

Two words: Al Sharpton……….

Brosephus™

May 29th, 2012
9:33 am

Simply because you left wing freaks foam at the mouth every time you see him…. Why should we throw him under the bus like the dems do to their own all the time? (Booker, Ford, Wright, Ayers)…

Dude, you probably foamed at the mouth and shot off a load just mentioning those last few names. It’s always funny to see projection form the logical basis for answers here.

:)

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Would you consider “delusional lickspittle” to be name-calling?

I would have to know what in the world “lickspittle” consists of in the first place. Whatever it is, it must be pretty bad as Fred got the 1 day Red Card as a result.

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On topic: I think Will’s description of Trump is about the best that anybody will ever get. What the GOP sees in him other than money, I’ll never understand. However, it doesn’t seem like our political system is designed with any semblance of logic anyway, so he fits in perfectly.

TH FROM MC

May 29th, 2012
9:34 am

You have got to be kidding Bookman. Have you every taken an inventory of the low lifes that make up your liberal democratic party? Let’s see – you have the lazy, welfare recipients, criminals, drug users, people who think that killing the unborn is a right, and the ultimate affirmative action pick of all time – Obama. And you think we should be unhappy with Trump? At least he works for a living and has earned everything he owns.

Welcome to the Occupation

May 29th, 2012
9:34 am

Actually I’m surprised Trump didn’t just resort to his usual tricks and do a Candy Crowley and mail Will a picture of him with the word “toupeed dog” scrawled on it.

bob

May 29th, 2012
9:35 am

politics makes strange bedfellows, why does Obama take money from Bain Capital ? If Bain is nothing but a greedy group that bankrupts companies why does Obama hold out his hand for blood money ?

St Simons - now with hamster power!

May 29th, 2012
9:35 am

Fred..serial offender

mrsstsimons says the new term for that is ‘filter-challenged’
but she’s a bleedin heart PC liberal and all.
He’s got a good spirit.
(Shawnees know these things. They’re spooky like that.)

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
9:35 am

What’s funny, Trump was actually a Democrat before this guy ( Obama) screwed it up so bad, or to be fair, walked into a bad situation, threw 5 Billion at it, and fixed nothing.

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 29th, 2012
9:35 am

“What the GOP sees in him other than money”

Why would you think they see anything OTHER than money?

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
9:36 am

Good post @9:34

Joseph

May 29th, 2012
9:37 am

How about dem financier George Soros? Obama and the dems bow every time they see him coming and he is as radical as you freaks think Trump is…

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
9:37 am

My bad, 5 TRILLION

redneckbluedog

May 29th, 2012
9:37 am

USMC

May 29th, 2012
9:08 am
“Why does GOP continue to tolerate Trump?”–Jay

“The Donald” is NOT running for President. (thank goodness)
================================================
If Romney wins…Trump will be Secretary of Treasury…..Or HUD secretary…..
Gingrich will be Secretary of State…..

Thogwummpy

May 29th, 2012
9:37 am

So wait….now that documents have emerged proving that when it suited his image crafting in the past, can we also accuse Obama himself of promoting “toxic nonsense” that he was born in Kenya? (keep in mind, Obama with a slip of the tongue when he was senator…said once to an audience that he was born in Kenya) Basically, Bookman has no problem with Obama implying he was of Kenyan birth so that it would magnify his diversity cred; but later (and as a result of that earlier promotion by Obama and his handlers—such as literary agents) if people naturally ask…given that the media failed to do their job by examining the controversy in the first place (fearful it might result in a disqualification of the man they’d invested their advocacy capital in)—then they are ridiculed as whack-jobs. Look, Bookie-boy…if you claim you went to Penn State and later—embarrassed by the football sex scandal—you try to distance your reputation from that by denying you went to Penn State; are those who do a diligent fact check to find out what’s accurate….crazy?!?! That said, there’s no record that his mother went to Kenya when Obama was born, so it’s likely he was born in Hawaii. But the controversy is his own fault and the fault of a press that didn’t look into it at all (the way they did every allegation in Bush’s past), thus giving it legs.

I’d also like to say that it’s disgusting that you make an attempt to tarnish the GOP for Trump, making a leap of connection that is wispy. If that’s fair game, then I think the DNC can be dragged thru the mud for Rosanne Barr saying “rich people should be guillotined” (or the other bizzar-o stuff that blasts from hundreds of committed moonbat Libtard entertainers and politicians).

Steve

May 29th, 2012
9:37 am

TH from MC – you realize that your ‘lazy welfare recipients’ are mostly white folks in red states, right? I know, really.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
9:38 am

At the end of the day, Libs need the GOP and their overtaxed bad selves. Think about it.

redneckbluedog

May 29th, 2012
9:40 am

I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not
May 29th, 2012
9:23 am

Romney’s resume vs Obama’s……………Is that a debate you Libs want?
=======================================================
ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY….!!!!!!

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
9:40 am

St. Simons – :lol: – your name remind me of my first car … 0-60 in, oh, about 5 minutes or so …

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
9:42 am

“Gingrich will be Secretary of State…..”

:lol:

because DIPLOMACY is his middle name!!

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
9:43 am

“Romney’s resume vs Obama’s……………Is that a debate you Libs want?”

all.

day.

long.

Jay

May 29th, 2012
9:44 am

“Care to prove your point?”

Sure, Ted. Be glad to do so:

Kayaker for one quotes Rush regularly:

“Meanwhile, our Head Narcissist in Charge, has taken it upon himself to edit Presidential Profiles from Coolidge to Reagan, injecting himself, complete with picture, to show his “greatness”. I agree with Rush….. this jerk should marry himself.”

“Rush had a pretty good suggestion about Bozo today. He suggested that Bozo could marry himself because he is so much in love and it would be a same sex union that he would certainly indorse.”

“As an aside on this thread, Rush was eulogizing Donna Summer today on his program and told a story about her and her husband when they met in an airport. He said that Summer and her husband approached him and told him how much they both enjoyed his radio show. They admitted to being conservatives, unusual at that time, especially for a black couple. Maybe Bookman wants a retraction now that he knows her politics.”

And JohnnyReb does as well:

“BTW, Donna was a Conservative. She even liked Rush Limbaugh. I wonder if that will result in retractions?”

And Sinkwich:

“Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh’s latest jab at the National Organization for Women has attracted more Facebook “likes” in 24 hours than NOW’s main page has collected in a little under four years.”

How could that be?”

And Casual Observer:

“I guess Rush was right, to piss off a liberal, just throw facts at them.

Winning!”

Joseph

May 29th, 2012
9:45 am

redneckbluedog:
ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY….!!!!!!

You haven’t read the memo. We’re not supposed to talk about Obama’s accomplishments or lack thereof. Dang it stay on message. The GOP has a war on women. Donald Trump is a raciest.

Steve

May 29th, 2012
9:46 am

So, how WAS Romney’s record in Massachusetts??
(crickets chirping)

Brosephus™

May 29th, 2012
9:46 am

I’d also like to say that it’s disgusting that you make an attempt to tarnish the GOP for Trump, making a leap of connection that is wispy.

:lol: :lol:

Dude ran as a GOP candidate for president in this cycle. He’s met with several other candidates. He’s endorsed a candidate if I remember correctly, and now he’s making an appearance on behalf of a candidate. Jay’s not making the connection dude, The Donald is doing it all on his own. Funny how some conservatives fail to see the bad in their own party while trying to throw darts at the opposition.

Mr. Snarky

May 29th, 2012
9:46 am

Jay,
Because they’re media whores. That’s why.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
9:47 am

Jay – 9:44

snap.

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
9:47 am

Haven’t checked in detail, but I believe the standard ballerina modus operandi is in effect this morning.

The GOPApologists neither say that they approve or disapprove of this man.

The ONLY silly play they can think up is to say, “Sharpton! Obama! Soros! Or someone else!”

I suspect that Joseph, Ted, Sarah, Long named meat, THC from MC, et al, know that this man is a pitiful human being, but have so little moral courage that they dare not even broach the subject, because the godly one commanded so with his Party’s Self-Destructive 11th Commandment…

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
9:48 am

Brocephus – “Funny how some conservatives fail to see the bad in their own party while trying to throw darts at the opposition.”

I believe that’s called PROJECTION

Adam

May 29th, 2012
9:48 am

What is it with the Republicans and Donald Trump?

The guy’s a Class A jerk who’s still out there peddling the toxic nonsense that Barack Obama was born in Kenya

Sometimes you just answer your own question XD

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
9:49 am

Steve – “So, how WAS Romney’s record in Massachusetts??”

:lol:

well, if he was a DEM, it would have been GREAT …

as a GOP??? not so much …

Brosephus™

May 29th, 2012
9:50 am

Jay

Never post facts in a debate here. That usually ends up with deflectionary posts.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
9:50 am

TH from MC — “Have you every taken an inventory of the low lifes that make up your liberal democratic party? Let’s see – you have the lazy, welfare recipients, criminals, drug users, people who think that killing the unborn is a right, and the ultimate affirmative action pick of all time – Obama.”

I see the new GOP campaign to lure Democratic voters has gotten under way.

Brosephus™

May 29th, 2012
9:51 am

USinner

It’s not just projection for some, it appears to be a way of life

Jack

May 29th, 2012
9:51 am

Trump gives me a headache. I do wish he was a Democrat.

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
9:52 am

The GOP has a war on women.

Joseph, that is true, but this compassionate liberal (LOL!) calls it the more cumbersome but highly accurate “The GOP’s Full Scale Legislative Assault on Women’s Rights.”

Don’t try to hide from it. Own it.

Because American women sure know all about it…

Adam

May 29th, 2012
9:52 am

Jay: Sure, Ted. Be glad to do so

Love it. Especially coming from some of the people who repeat the same talking points as each other, and when it’s mentioned that they must be getting this from somewhere, whatever somewhere is mentioned (especially if that somewhere is Rush) they say “Oh I don’t listen to Rush.”

Nonsense. You guys have been called out for being the dittoheads you are. Your response?

Common Sense

May 29th, 2012
9:54 am

Had Trump endorsed a liberal, we’d hear nothing but what a smart business man he was, and look he endorsed “blah Blah BLAH”

You check the endorsement, and if it is for liberals, you celebrate the person. If it is for a conservative, you attack the person.

We realize how important endorsements are on the liberal side. But since you do not understand conservatives, you do not grasp that conservatives do not care about endorsements.

We make up our own minds on an individual basis. Groupthink is a liberal specialty, not a conservative one.

Bosch

May 29th, 2012
9:54 am

Because Trump demonstrates the character trait I see most in the uber right wingers: everyone who doesn’t hold my opinion is dumb.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
9:55 am

Trump gives me a headache. I do wish he was a Democrat.

Certainly easier to wish that than to admit that your side has faults, I suppose. And before you get all “hypocrite” on me, I admit the Democrats have faults on a regular basis. I just happen to think they have less of them, and are a better choice right now for the country. Especially with some of the absolute craziness coming from conservatives/Tea Party/Republicans in office and supporters.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
9:55 am

Thogwummpy — “But the controversy is his own fault and the fault of a press that didn’t look into it at all (the way they did every allegation in Bush’s past), thus giving it legs.”

Horse poop.

The State of Hawaii and the REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR checked the BC and announced — prior to Obama’s nomination — that there was nothing in it that would preclude him from taking office as President if he were to be elected. This was *thoroughly* reported at the time, and the fault lies with the birthers for being sore losers.

Do you really think for a moment that if Governor Linda Lingle saw something funny in Obama’s birth certificate, that she wouldn’t have said something?

Oscar

May 29th, 2012
9:56 am

bloviating = had to look that one up. It fits well.

Don’t know the answer to the question of the day, except that the folks that tolerate him think he has a following. And he must since his TV show is still running.

Will and Trump trading insults, that is classic.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
9:56 am

Common Sense: Had Trump endorsed a liberal, we’d hear nothing but what a smart business man he was, and look he endorsed “blah Blah BLAH”

I call BS. The two sides are NOT the same, and your continued insistence on pushing that message, however slight in its form, shows that you don’t have confidence that the right’s message can stand on its own.

Common Sense isn't very Common

May 29th, 2012
9:56 am

We make up our own minds on an individual basis. Groupthink is a liberal specialty, not a conservative one.
————————————————-

Oh My Freaking G0d LMAO

josef

May 29th, 2012
9:57 am

BOSCH

Howdee-do! How’s bidness…?

St. SIMON’S

Shawnee? Oooohhhh, talk about a mixed marriage! I trust you have learned to sleep with one eye open? :-)

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
9:57 am

The problem we have ( I) have is that the left has no problem with any of the following, some true, some maybe true, but worth debating and asking questions;
1. Obama may be , by our Constitution, legally unqualified to be President
2. They tell us he’s smart, we’ve seen no grades, or proof of a formal,successful education. His life experiences we know of, based on results, has shown us he’s ill prepared to be POTUS.
3. He has past experiences with known terrorist.
4. We all know his “church” history and those beliefs.
5. We all know he can’t talk to 3rd graders without a teleprompter.
6. In most of his speech’s or campaign stops, he tends to only represent half the country.
7.Gas prices going up is not his fault, but falling prices are all because of him.

.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
9:58 am

JamVet – 9:52 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGQyv-43334 this bud’s for you.

BOSCH!!! haven’t seen you in AGES !!! hope the new biz is going well!!! I take it you saw how well Kam’s boys in blue did … (I can’t talk about my Spurs … it hurts too much)

Barack Obama

May 29th, 2012
9:58 am

I wasted that Trump fool after last year’s White House Correspondent’s dinner at the same time that team Six was wasting Osama. Willard is getting an endorsement from the living dead of his party like that deflated gasbag from Georgia.

Lord Help Us

May 29th, 2012
9:58 am

‘We make up our own minds on an individual basis. Groupthink is a liberal specialty, not a conservative one.’

MegaDittos!!

Joseph

May 29th, 2012
9:59 am

I’m glad Bookman got the memo that we must do damage control after Frank’s comments to try and take the heat off his gaffe.

http://nation.foxnews.com/trayvon-martin/2012/05/29/barney-frank-s-trayvon-martin-joke-shocks-commencement-audience

Aquagirl

May 29th, 2012
9:59 am

Nonsense. You guys have been called out for being the dittoheads you are. Your response?

“But…but….OBAMA!”

lol….what a beatdown.

lovelyliz

May 29th, 2012
9:59 am

“Why does GOP continue to tolerate Trump?”

Because in comparison he makes them look saner

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
10:00 am

Im A — “The problem we have ( I) have is that the left has no problem with any of the following, some true, some maybe true, but worth debating and asking questions.”

If those are the questions that you think are worthy of public debate given all the issues our country faces right now, then you’re part of the problem, not part of the solution.

IMO, of course.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
10:00 am

Common Sense: We make up our own minds on an individual basis. Groupthink is a liberal specialty, not a conservative one.

As clearly demonstrated by the continued pushing of the same talking points by multiple conservative posters here.

Oh wait…

See, you’re wrong. Groupthink is not a trait assigned to a political party. Here, conservatives do that far more often than the liberals. I’m sure that you can find a place where the opposite is true. Groupthink is about not thinking for oneself, or just jumping on the bandwagon. And your side seems to value jumping on the bandwagon so much that your supporters regularly excommunicate anyone who is off message.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
10:01 am

another day … another opportunity for “another liberal” to totally demonstrate the irony of his name

Bosch

May 29th, 2012
10:01 am

Hi ya josef and USinUK! Yeah, things are going good — not a bajillionaire yet, but working on it. :) Had alot going on my boring mundane life, so I haven’t had much blogging time. Hopefully will have more later. And yes, we are still talking about the game.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
10:02 am

Joseph: I’m glad Bookman got the memo that we must do damage control after Frank’s comments to try and take the heat off his gaffe.

http://nation.foxnews.com/trayvon-martin/2012/05/29/barney-frank-s-trayvon-martin-joke-shocks-commencement-audience

I see that and raise you Bill Maher: “[Obama] couldn’t be less threatening if he was carrying a can of tea and Skittles.”

St Simons - now with hamster power!

May 29th, 2012
10:02 am

I listen to the enemy ebby day, and i swear, i thought Rush’s
stenographer worked dis blog, mon

USinUK, the lovely shawnee/german mrsstsimons went to
school in Swaffham, what a small world it is.

Brosephus™

May 29th, 2012
10:02 am

But since you do not understand conservatives, you do not grasp that conservatives do not care about endorsements.

So, if that is indeed the case, why have so many GOP candidates and office holders on all levels signed Sir Grover’s pledge? Why does so many GOP office holders and candidates stress their religious affiliations and activities in campaigns? Why do so many GOP candidates and office holders chant the same groupspeakesque “I’m for small government” when there is no attempt to ever define what “small government” actually means?

Dude, the GOP is proof positive of “Groupthink” and it’s not just a liberal specialty as you think it is.

Bosch

May 29th, 2012
10:04 am

I’m a liberal……whatever your name is –

problem with everything on that list is that they defy logic and common sense to believe any of those things and we HAVE debated them to death (and common sense and logic prevailed).

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
10:05 am

Common Sense — “We make up our own minds on an individual basis. Groupthink is a liberal specialty, not a conservative one.”

Having played for both teams, I can assure you that you are absolutely and completely wrong on that.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
10:05 am

Brosephus: Dude, the GOP is proof positive of “Groupthink” and it’s not just a liberal specialty as you think it is.

Right on the nose.

Ironic, isn’t it, that those who make such claims often fall prey to Groupthink without even realizing it, and demonstrate it pretty obviously to any outside observer?

Flashback on the Republican Campaign Trail

May 29th, 2012
10:05 am

Romney Won’t Attend Debate Hosted By Donald Trump

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxnD_bq1Y3s

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
10:05 am

Had Trump endorsed a liberal, we’d hear nothing but what a smart business man he was from this liberal but what a horrible human being this man is.

Not everyone is as blinded by that R & D thing as you…

CJ

May 29th, 2012
10:07 am

Romney on Trump: “You know, I don’t agree with all the people who support me and my guess is they don’t all agree with everything I believe in. But I need to get 50.1 percent or more and I’m appreciative to have the help of a lot of good people.

In other words, Romney couldn’t care less about truth and decency. He’ll hook up with anybody, no matter how repugnant, who can help him reach his goal.

Common Sense isn't very Common

May 29th, 2012
10:07 am

JHM

Sorry, I cut that from a previous cons post.

The OMG at the end was MY response :-)

williebkind

May 29th, 2012
10:08 am

“Why does GOP continue to tolerate Trump?”

Why does the DNC continue to tolerate progressive liberals?

Soothsayer

May 29th, 2012
10:09 am

What I would like to see is Donald Trump marry Callister Gingrich. Can you imagine the amount of hairspray thye would use between them?

I really found this quote from one of the early bloggers interesting:

“A liberal thinks progress is government taking more from those who produce and give to the non-productive while a progressive thinks progress is taking more from the rich so everyone will have the same amount of poverty and misery.”

And I thought:

A conservative is one who thinks the government extracting $ trillions of dollars in taxes from taxpayers and squandering that money on never-ending, pointless, useless, needless, worthless wars instead of useful purposes like roads, bridges, and schools is good.

TH FROM MC

May 29th, 2012
10:09 am

Steve writes: TH from MC – you realize that your ‘lazy welfare recipients’ are mostly white folks in red states, right? I know, really.

Hey Steve while it is true that for shear numbers of welfare recipients whites win but as a percentage of the race the top welfare moochers are black – it is not even close. Over 60% of blacks get government scraps while only 25% of whites do. Same thing with the prison population – blacks are WAY over represented. Facts are a funny thing huh Steve? So your point is?

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
10:09 am

Of all of the sheer nonsense in that screed, this one sticks out:

We all know…

Why is YOUR singular, solitary opinion so worthless to you that you have to concoct others to bolster it?

n

May 29th, 2012
10:09 am

Nothing breeds success like success
Where ever he goes
Prosperity follows from the skyline of New York
To the Atlantic City Casinos
Donald wants wealth for all
The democrats sit on the wall
And have a big fall

Barack spends the taxpayer’s money
So much money it is bankrupting the country
The president is leading us into poverty
If he wins he will bankrupt the country

St Simons - now with hamster power!

May 29th, 2012
10:09 am

josef – i can tell, just by that comment, you are married to a native.
hell yes, i sleep with one eye open. i’m lookin into a webcam too.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
10:10 am

St. Simons – make her a chip butty and tell her “cheers” from me!! :-) (are you both celebrating the jubilee this weekend as honorary Brits???)

Bosch – 10:04 – which is why I laugh and laugh everytime I see a post from that person … and people think irony is dead …

GT

May 29th, 2012
10:10 am

Fred nailed it.

Trump would model some “pretty boy” wrestler trotting around the the ring in guerrilla grippers, brogan boots and an American flag cape. This my friends is where we find the Republican Party of 2012, Cartoon characters, weak characters who have wives and ex wives on rosters, make money and get contributions from gambling casinos, and bring all this trash back into the churches of America in their campaign to make church and state one entity. They have a contempt of our country, as does Murdock a foreign spokesman for the right-wing, who along with Trump and Newt and thousands of religious fakes have found a weakness in our system and exploited it to the point of exhaustion. We have spent a weekend praising the great individual American war heroes now back to reality and how a party uses these men and our religious faith to their ill gotten favor.

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
10:11 am

“the top welfare moochers are black multinational, billion dollar corporations – it is not even close.”

WAKE UP!

Corporations are people, my friend. ~Mitt Romney

Jefferson

May 29th, 2012
10:12 am

What would Romney do different than what President Bush did ? We see where that led us.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
10:13 am

“Corporations are people, my friend. ~Mitt Romney”

like Soylent Green?

williebkind

May 29th, 2012
10:14 am

I am not going to defend Donald Trump, howerver calling him a “bloviating ignoramus” sounds like the typical career politician. We are 16t in debt and this cost to taxpayers was by college trained minds. Now who is the ignoramus–the taxpayer?

East Lake Ira

May 29th, 2012
10:15 am

Mr. Snarky

May 29th, 2012
10:15 am

I may not agree with George Will much, but Trump wishes he had 1/10th of Will’s intelligence and eloquence. The smartest thing Trump ever said is “You’re Fired!”

Soothsayer

May 29th, 2012
10:16 am

Ira: I also read that piece — great article by Michael Fumento.

Steve

May 29th, 2012
10:16 am

My point is that black are a very low percentage of our population, and your and my tax money is mostly going to support poor white folks in red states. That is fact.

It’s also a fact that blacks were 3rd class citizens in the South through the mid 1960s, and it will take generations to erase the damage done there. We, as white people, created this mess that resulted in blacks living in ghettos and getting sucked into the welfare mentality. It will take time for that to turn around. meantime, explain to me why we have so many Republican voting poor whites in Mississippi/Alabama etc on the dole?

josef

May 29th, 2012
10:16 am

ZamVet

I was behind a corporation at Whole Foods, and….

St SIMONS

:-)

Road Scholar

May 29th, 2012
10:17 am

I wonder how many small businesses Mr Trump, the small business guru of repubs, has crushed in his multiple climbs from obscurity and bankruptcies?

Romney needs to stay upwind from Trump to stay away from the “shrapnel hair” when the winds blow and the stink of his past.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
10:17 am

williebkind: We are 16t in debt and this cost to taxpayers was by college trained minds. Now who is the ignoramus–the taxpayer?

You started your post about Trump, then shifted quickly to this. Why? What’s your point? What does one have to do with the other? “Oh yeah Trump is an ass, but Obama SUCKS”?

barking frog

May 29th, 2012
10:18 am

Censorship is an ugly thing
even in it’s editorial form.

williebkind

May 29th, 2012
10:18 am

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
10:11 am

USinUK – pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012 (same as being homosexual too)

I read that to mean that corporations were made of people. Is this not the same type interpretations liberals uses to indoctrinatine the uninformed.

Bosch

May 29th, 2012
10:18 am

“The president is leading us into poverty
If he wins he will bankrupt the country”

BS.

You guys really need some new material. The “OMG, Obama is spending us to death” meme have been judged and found wanting.

williebkind

May 29th, 2012
10:19 am

Adam

May 29th, 2012
10:17 am
I said I would defend Trump but he is less a threat than Sorros.

josef

May 29th, 2012
10:19 am

STEVE

“Republican voting poor whites in Mississippi/Alabama etc on the dole”

Not being snarky at all, but stats on this please…

Adam

May 29th, 2012
10:19 am

It’s also a fact that blacks were 3rd class citizens in the South through the mid 1960s, and it will take generations to erase the damage done there.

Exactly. And some, though they may not admit it except behind an anonymous blog name, think that the damage should NOT be reversed, but perpetuated. If only so they can continue to perpetuate the myth that there are OTHERS out there who just want to sit on their ass and don’t want to work to get themselves out of a bad situation. NEWS FLASH: Americans in general want to work to get out of a bad situation!

Peadawg

May 29th, 2012
10:20 am

“I read that to mean that corporations were made of people.”

Then Romney should have said that. But he didn’t. He said corporation ARE people. Big difference.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
10:21 am

I said I would defend Trump but he is less a threat than Sorros.

So basically Tu Quoque.

Hell of a college-trained mind you got there….

Ahem

May 29th, 2012
10:21 am

Same reason Democrats tolerate Obama?

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
10:21 am

“howerver calling him a “bloviating ignoramus” sounds like the typical career politician”

Willieb … meet George … http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Will

NOT a career pol

williebkind

May 29th, 2012
10:22 am

Adam, I would not defend Trump…oops

Adam

May 29th, 2012
10:23 am

williebkind: Ok ok I probably went too far with that. Sorry.

It’s just not a valid argument to say “your guy is worse.” Among other things it perpetuates the false idea that the sides are the same.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
10:23 am

Ira, thanks for that Fumento piece.

I keep telling people my story (it’s much like Fumento’s) and they dismiss it, saying it couldn’t possibly happen. Well, it does, and there are more disaffected conservatives than just me. Many, many more.

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
10:23 am

I read that to mean that corporations were made of people. Is this not the same type interpretations liberals uses to indoctrinatine (sic) the uninformed.

I understand the first statement.

Though I vehemntly disagree. We the people is a sacred phrase coined by the Founding Fathers and used to explain our role as the SOVEREIGNS (look up the definition, if you must) in this nation.

Romney’s phrase is perverted capitalism, nothing more. (In my useless opinion)

But your second sentence? It needs some more work.

What exactly are you trying to say, willie?

Matti

May 29th, 2012
10:24 am

“Short-fingered Vulgarian”

HAHAHAHA!

To answer the question in the headline:

I think a large swath of the American populace that identifies as Republican simply lacks either the ability or desire to think critically. For the same reason they think the McRib is a delicacy and a buggy full of cheap garbage from WalMart = “living well,” the hype of The Donald as some self-made economic genius — who worked hard to get rich, just like any American could if it weren’t for those pesky gubmint regulations & taxes — is real. After all, he has a TV show, some buildings, and knows how to trade up in the wife department. He must be legit! Right? Hahahahaha!

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
10:24 am

“May 29th, 2012 (same as being homosexual too)”

being a former girl scout is the same as being homosexual???

Soothsayer

May 29th, 2012
10:24 am

I’m always amazed with the fixation the Fright-Wing has about “welfare.” To them, their every last tax dollar is going to some Black woman, driving an Escalade, buying steaks at Whole Foods with food stamps and having kids out of wedlock. They are simply consumed with this thought.

Yet, the care not one whit about the $ trillions of dollars of their taxes being wasted on useless wars. I tell you, it boggles the mind. It just shows the power of propaganda and how minute minds can be easily swayed to fixate on one thing and completely overlook another.

But then, that’s the whole purpose, isn’t it? Take your mind off the obscene wasteful spending on wars and turn it onto the “Welfare Queen.” After all, we always need someone to hate — an enemy. And who better than a minority?

Adam

May 29th, 2012
10:25 am

JHM: Well, it does, and there are more disaffected conservatives than just me. Many, many more.

I know. I know some of them. I have a feeling I would have been one had I been born a bit earlier.

williebkind

May 29th, 2012
10:25 am

USinUK – pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout (same as being homosexual)

May 29th, 2012
10:21 am
I have read Will’s commentary many times. He is boring, lack-luster, and piddles on inane subjects that interest him only.

williebkind

May 29th, 2012
10:26 am

“being a former girl scout is the same as being homosexual???

A target rich environment?

josef

May 29th, 2012
10:27 am

USinUK

“…being a former girl scout is the same as being homosexual???”

I was trying to get a handle on where that one came from, too. Inquiring minds want to know…

Ol' Timer

May 29th, 2012
10:27 am

The question of why the Republicans continue to embrace Trump is best understood by a quote from John Kenneth Galbraith who said: “The modern conservative is engaged in one of the oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a moral justification for selfishness.”

The alleged cache of “the Trump Brand” is diminished every time he opens his mouth. The GOP won’t trust him to make a speech for fear he’ll throw the F bomb into a group of evangelical deacons.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
10:27 am

willieb – what he is not is a career pol … “typical” or otherwise …

and what’s your beef with Girl Scouts???

Steve

May 29th, 2012
10:27 am

Soothsayer, you hit the nail on the head.

DawgDad

May 29th, 2012
10:28 am

“Donald Trump is redundant evidence that if your net worth is high enough, your IQ can be very low and you can still intrude into American politics.”

Why single out Trump and the GOP when the Democrats have an endless supply? This is America, land of free speech.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
10:28 am

Soothsayer: To them, their every last tax dollar is going to some Black woman, driving an Escalade, buying steaks at Whole Foods with food stamps and having kids out of wedlock.

Yep. And as I say every time, pics or idt didn’t happen.

One person actually asked if she could borrow my iPhone to take the picture. I said “No, you may not borrow my 3 year old iPhone that I got second hand for cheap from someone who was trading up. I wonder if anyone else might be in a similar situation….. hmm….”

Adam

May 29th, 2012
10:29 am

quote from John Kenneth Galbraith who said: “The modern conservative is engaged in one of the oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a moral justification for selfishness.”

Oooo, I like it. Keeping it.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
10:29 am

josef … this should be interesting, if nothing else …

St Simons - now with hamster power!

May 29th, 2012
10:29 am

USUK -”as honorary Brits?” – um, that would be a stretch for us….

wow, she knew what you were talking about (i didn’t)
she was thrilled to get some ‘pickle jelly’ from visiting UK friends.
so i had to open my mouth and started telling them about
’shag music, shag music’ to which she gave me the ’shut up you idiot’
sign that, from a shawnee woman, lets say, loses some of the
translation here.

williebkind

May 29th, 2012
10:30 am

Donald Trump and the Vice President–Joe Biden. Now we have a comparison!

Steve

May 29th, 2012
10:30 am

The wars under GWB are estimated to cost tax payers THREE TRILLION dollars. But hey, let’s worry about a few thousand people on welfare.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
10:31 am

DawgDad: Why single out Trump and the GOP when the Democrats have an endless supply? This is America, land of free speech.

Care to go one for one? I’d like to see just how many Democrats you can name who fit this description. Let’s see if the amount office-for-office adds up to be more or the same on the Democrat side. I am willing to lay odds it is not.

TaxPayer

May 29th, 2012
10:32 am

What do you expect. Many a Republican likely believe that they could one day rise to the level of arrogant idiot that is The Donald and eat pizza with a fork. Whatever motivates ‘em, I suppose.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
10:32 am

No Bosch…………We haven’t debated them to death, we’ve ignored them and swept them under the rug to death………………….And Obama’s chickens……………In the famous words of Rev. Wright…………………Are coming home to roost in November. He’s struggling against a moderate from the North for heavens sake LOL.

East Lake Ira

May 29th, 2012
10:32 am

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
10:32 am

The question of why the Republicans continue to embrace Trump is best understood by a quote from John Kenneth Galbraith who said: “The modern conservative is engaged in one of the oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a moral justification for selfishness.”

Another huge BRAVO!!

And why the otherwise despicable Trump is so revered by Republicans, Libertarians, Tea Partiers, etc…

Mr. Tullios

May 29th, 2012
10:33 am

Donald Trump is a spoiled little brat. Born w/ a silver spoon in his mouth just like ol Mitt. He inherited 60 million dollars form his Dad way back when. Nice start if you can get it. Self made…! My arse.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
10:34 am

St. Simons – “i had to open my mouth and started telling them about
’shag music, shag music’ to which she gave me the ’shut up you idiot’
sign that, from a shawnee woman, lets say, loses some of the
translation here”

okay, that made me snort!

re: pickle jelly … do you mean Branston pickle??? yumyumyum …

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
10:35 am

He’s struggling against a moderate from the North for heavens sake LOL.

Moderate???

Is that the new euphemism for RINO and the Father of Socialized Medicine?

This guy makes John McCain look like Barry Goldwater! And your Rovian led party damn near swiftboated that nominee!

sam

May 29th, 2012
10:37 am

trump is like pt barnum with bad hair

Douglas

May 29th, 2012
10:38 am

Probably for the same reason the Democrats put up with Al Charlatan …. er Sharpton. The rabble rouser of Tawana Brawley fame, the instigator of the riots in New York that lead to blood shed, etc. Both parties have a pretty big tent when it comes to such people.

JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG

May 29th, 2012
10:40 am

“TH from MC — “Have you every taken an inventory of the low lifes that make up your liberal democratic party? Let’s see – you have the lazy, welfare recipients,”

Let me help you out here sport: LOOK AT YOUR GOP FOLKS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7r2i6NrqNs

Bosch

May 29th, 2012
10:41 am

Funny thing Douglas is that I don’t see too many Democratic candidates touting Al Sharpton around on the campaign trail. Go figure.

DawgDad

May 29th, 2012
10:42 am

“Let’s see if the amount office-for-office adds up to be more or the same on the Democrat side”

What on earth are you talking about? “Office-for-office”???

How about a Buffett, Baldwin, Fonda, Streisand, Soros, Oprah. Which is all fine, it’s a free country.

Steve

May 29th, 2012
10:43 am

Al Sharpton? Really? Trump is elevating himself much higher into the political debate/arena than Sharpton is.

Steve Atl

May 29th, 2012
10:43 am

Why do Liberals continue to tolerate Bill Maher, Chris Hayes, Tim Geithner, and Eric Holder to name a few?

Rickster

May 29th, 2012
10:44 am

Jay’s column about Obama being the most frugal president ever has been proven absolutely false:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304707604577426240727922340.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

Care to “revise and extend” your remarks Jay?

Misty Fyed

May 29th, 2012
10:44 am

George Will is a Blue Blood Republican with a good dictionary. The problem is many conservatives are tired of the Blue Blood Republicans. The party is being shaken up. Of course George Will doesn’t like the Donald. But George Will sold his soul many moons ago. His opinions on those who challenge the status quo are about as unbiased as Jays evaluations of Obama.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
10:45 am

sam – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PT_Barnum

check out the piccie … it’s actually PT Barnum’s hair … just bleached and combed over …

josef

May 29th, 2012
10:45 am

JOE COOL

That one is right up there with throwing out Ayers, Wright, et al by the right wing…some song, different dance…

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
10:45 am

“Of course George Will doesn’t like the Donald. But George Will sold his soul many moons ago”

:lol:

he SOLD OUT???

okay, I’ll play.

to whom???

Independent voter

May 29th, 2012
10:45 am

Joe Biden makes the Donald look brilliant.. then there is Al Sharpton..

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
10:46 am

6 months to go for a new Declaration if Independence. The regime will be gone……But the damage done between election day and swearing in day will be huge. At least all the Clintons did was trash the white house and steal some silver and china etc.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
10:48 am

George Will is scared of being taken off the DC party list….so he plays along, playing both sides.

St Simons - now with hamster power!

May 29th, 2012
10:48 am

USUK – yes, that’s it. I guess you have to develop a taste for it…

I’ll be glad when these cons realize what a small world it is,
and that We’re All in This Together.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

May 29th, 2012
10:49 am

Granny G said it best at 0843. Can’t add anything else.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
10:49 am

Then why is Romney polling so well against Mr. Wonderful? We know the answer,,,,,yes, he’s that bad……..Obama that is.

Steve

May 29th, 2012
10:50 am

“Im a Liberal…”

Sorry, but clearly, Obama wins the 2nd term. Willard Mittens Magic Underwear Romney? LMAO

Flashback on the Republican Campaign Trail

May 29th, 2012
10:51 am

JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG

May 29th, 2012
10:40 am

I just watched your clip and it makes me wonder if these people are living in the 1950’s. This is just AMAZING!!!

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
10:51 am

With the wackos in Calif & NY spotting him 150 delegates, you might be right.

TiredOfIt

May 29th, 2012
10:52 am

Just another republican whose daddy had money. In the republican party you worth as an individual is based on dollar value.

MrLiberty

May 29th, 2012
10:52 am

Why stop at Trump? Why do they continue to tollerate Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gingrich, Romney, etc. And while we are at it, why does the Democratic party continue to tollerate Hillary, Bill, Obama, Hoyer, Feinstein, Pelosi, Gore, Biden, etc.?

All of these folks have in their own way destroyed freedom, liberty, respect for the US on the global stage, caused the deaths of tens of thousands through their votes, cause the caging of tens of thousands through their continued support of the war on drugs, etc.

They are all worthless. Americans need to get them all out of office and turn the criminals over to the international war crimes tribunals to get those issues settled.

Call It Like It Is

May 29th, 2012
10:52 am

Silly blog why does the right put up with Trump, I dont know, why did the left put up with the Kennedys for almost a century? Idiots on both sides of the table.

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
10:53 am

he SOLD OUT???

okay, I’ll play.

to whom???

The Ronald! And his Eleventh Commandment!

“Thou shalt never point out any facts regarding corruption, sleaze or incompetence against another Republican.”

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
10:53 am

“I guess you have to develop a taste for it…”

get the sharpest cheddar cheese you can find and slap that one piece of bread, Branston pickle on another … nomnomnom

Moderate Line

May 29th, 2012
10:53 am

Trump hurts Romney because all Romney needs to do is remind people about unemployment being over 8.0.% Any other topic being discussed hurts Republicans. But going negative also hurts Obama with independents. There are just as many crazies on the other side like Bill Maher.
Also, remember that 22% of the people believe Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks in advance and 22% said they did not know. Is this any crazier than the birthers? What percentage of Democrat donors believe this? Did Obama disavow any of their money? Both sides do not denounce the crazies because they know they are the ones who are most likely to be motivated to vote.
Obama has only a 43% approval rating among Independents so his strategy is simple motivate the base and demotivate independents by being as negative about your opponent as possible. You can see Jay’s article is completely in tune with this because you can see how many articles he writes which have no other purpose than to increase Romney’s negative.
I think this is a mistake because the election will be a referendum on Obama and if Europe tanks this will have a negative effect on the US and Obama’s ratings. Obama will need those independent voters.
My fear with Romney is it will give Republicans control over the Senate, House and Presidency. However, Obama’s strategy and the words of Jay are actually making me evaluate Obama more negatively. They actually make Romney look more moderate since he a Republican from Mass.
Republicans will focus on the deficit and the economy so Obama needs to counter the argument and he is already losing which is interesting since the deficit is because of 1)tax cuts 2) military spending 3) recession 4) medicare spending all of which he inherited. The economy is tough because whatever happens in the next few months he has no control over.

Oblama

May 29th, 2012
10:53 am

It’s just fitting that “The Donald” gets in on the act since we currently have our 1st “Reality Show” President known as “The Great Divider”. When Oblama disclaims the hateful and stupid Bill Maher and sends back his $1,000,000 campaign contribution we can talk about Donald Trump. Jay’s a hypocrite for not criticizing Oblama for embracing Maher and his ilk – while Jay insists on Romney ditching Trump. Can it be because of your socialist leanings Jay?

Soothsayer

May 29th, 2012
10:53 am

Man, things is heatin’ up ’round heah! Love it!

Peter

May 29th, 2012
10:54 am

Shawny. Bill Maher speaks the truth…. you must be religious then.

stands for decibels

May 29th, 2012
10:54 am

Late to this, but a couple thoughts that, I don’t believe, have been entirely explored.

1) the answer to Jay’s headline question is “The conservative Prime Directive.” In case anyone’s forgotten what that prime directive is, it is to Piss Off Liberals. Doesn’t matter if a) the term “liberal” is so loosely defined it basically means “anyone who doesn’t support my guy”, or b) if there isn’t any actual pissing off going on–merely the opportunity to be annoying is all that matters.

So, that’s why Trump is tolerated. He “pisses off liberals.” that’s what conservatives have chosen to believe anyway.

2) Trump had made a lot of Democratic-friendly/anti-Bush noises in 2004. Interesting to read a Kos entry from that time, and to read the comments in response. Basically, they said “we don’t need this clown.”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/04/16/24405/-Trump-is-a-Democrat

weetamoe

May 29th, 2012
10:55 am

I think Trump is a fool, but the title of *first birther* belongs to our composite evolving president himself, and unlike Obama booster Al, aka Tawana’s big bro, Trump does not have the blood of innocent people on his hands.

Peter

May 29th, 2012
10:56 am

MrLiberty. you have a valid point…….. Seems the richer one gets and the more powerful in finances, and then in politics, it becomes all about ME !

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
10:56 am

JamVet –

Don Corleone: What’s the matter with you? I think your brain is going soft with all that comedy you are playing with that young girl. Never tell anyone outside the Family what you are thinking again. Go on.

Lord Help Us

May 29th, 2012
10:56 am

I love me some ham-handed satire coming from brand new handles. Reeks of desperation…

Steve

May 29th, 2012
10:56 am

Economy is improving. Unemployment is down 2 points. Gas/fuel is down. Housing is returning, stock market is up. Osama is gone. Ghadaffi is gone. Our troops are returning home and the three trillion dollar wars are ending.

So how is this bad for Obama?

Moderate Line

May 29th, 2012
10:56 am

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
10:56 am

Call It Like It Is, what a bogus comparison.

Kennedy was no idiot, like Trump is.

And at least did some good for this nation, including enlisting in the United States Army at the age of 19.

Can you tell exactly what good Mr. Combover has ever done for this republic?

St Simons - now with hamster power!

May 29th, 2012
10:57 am

“…and eat pizza with a fork.”

hahaha
There is nothing funnier than watching the Biffs & Muffys here
trying to eat fried chicken with a fork.
what a metaphor

Peter

May 29th, 2012
10:58 am

Fact Check……… THE GOP CANT KREEP AMERICA SAFE..REMEMBER DUBYA.

Yes those are the facts, and the truth !

JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG

May 29th, 2012
10:58 am

Flashback on the Republican Campaign Trail

May 29th, 2012
10:51 am

And they STILL wonder why they are poor…..GO FIGURE.

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
10:59 am

ex-pat, I believe the comparison between La Cosa Nostra and the modern day GOP is accurate in some ways. Both are criminal syndicates that require complete loyalty, or else!

Peter

May 29th, 2012
10:59 am

Steve PLEASE.. Are you looking at the facts for gosh sake….. How is that reasonable ?

godless heathen

May 29th, 2012
10:59 am

Did “if Romney” get a new gibberish generator for his birthday?

MItt’s gonna keep The Donald around in case someone has to tell President Obama, “You’re fired!’

Steve

May 29th, 2012
11:01 am

Well, Peter, he IS a Muslim from Kenya so who cares about reality.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
11:02 am

Steve Atl: Why do Liberals continue to tolerate Bill Maher, Chris Hayes, Tim Geithner, and Eric Holder to name a few?

Why is Chris Hayes in that list? One of these names is not like the others….

Oblama

May 29th, 2012
11:02 am

Jay the Oblama government announced the recession ended over two years ago – so why has Oblama increased socialist spending dramatically every year since the so called recovery in record breaking fashion? Food stamps are up 43% since Oblama’s “recovery” began. Why are unemployment benefit extensions necessary in this fantastic Oblama recovery? Simple – the recovery is a lie fostered by the leftist news media. It’s a mirage generated by our “1st Reality Show” President.

John Birch

May 29th, 2012
11:02 am

Thje Reps don’t throw the moron Trump overboard for the same reason Obama didn’t denonunce Rev. Wright as a vile racist hate-mongering idiot. But thanks for the fluff piece on the easy target Jay, it almost made me forget Obama’s promise to cut the deficit in half!

josef

May 29th, 2012
11:03 am

JOE COOL

How much time have you spent in Mississippi? What DO you know about the state? You can find that type anywhere you look and slap Minnesota or Massachusetts on it, and launch off in a “those people” attack…

ST SIMON’S
My Granny’s rule: if you can’t eat it with a spoon,knife and fork, it’s not served at the dinner table.
:-)

Adam

May 29th, 2012
11:03 am

stands: 2) Trump had made a lot of Democratic-friendly/anti-Bush noises in 2004. Interesting to read a Kos entry from that time, and to read the comments in response. Basically, they said “we don’t need this clown.”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/04/16/24405/-Trump-is-a-Democrat

Oh snap, looks like “Common Sense”’s argument just fell apart…

godless heathen

May 29th, 2012
11:03 am

Moderate Line: Over 90% of American’s believe in the Sky Fairy. Most Americans believe UFOs are from alien worlds.

Brosephus™

May 29th, 2012
11:04 am

Adam @ 10:05

Exactly!!!

——————————-

Hey Steve while it is true that for shear numbers of welfare recipients whites win but as a percentage of the race the top welfare moochers are black.

Hey “whomever you are today”, Blacks may make up the larger percentage of people on welfare, but Whites cost taxpayers far more money. Think about that one for a minute so you can realize how insignificant your talking point really is….

Adam

May 29th, 2012
11:04 am

so why has Oblama increased socialist spending dramatically every year since the so called recovery in record breaking fashion?

Facts just don’t penetrate for you, do they?

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
11:04 am

JamVet – “Both are criminal syndicates that require complete loyalty, or else!”

ZACKLY

Steve

May 29th, 2012
11:05 am

Oh I forgot – he’s a “socialist communist” too, and I HATE OBAMA/ROMNEYCARE (but I can’t tell you why I hate it…)

Peter

May 29th, 2012
11:06 am

Oblama George Bush announced “Mission Accomplished “…….. what was that other then the Bilking of America with the “Cost Plus Contracts ” ?

Do you really think after George Bush the economy would be back in 2 years ? Come on now what planet do you live on ?

Lord Help Us

May 29th, 2012
11:07 am

‘a black man…’

You’re selling hard and nobody is buying. You may want to put the shovel down…

ragnar danneskjold

May 29th, 2012
11:07 am

Easy question: unlike democrats, republicans tolerate intellectual diversity. No mind-numb clones in the party on the right – only the left requires rigid adherence to the party orthodoxy.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
11:07 am

“socialist spending ”

oy to the vey …

someone else who hasn’t the first clue what the word actually means.

stevie ray....Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right...here I am...

May 29th, 2012
11:07 am

Donald Trump, Mike Huckabee, and John Maher’s (politics only) are all a joke and not newsworthy. Why anyone give’s a rats arse about their views is beyond me….

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
11:08 am

” 22% of people believe Bush knew about 9/11″ is an Ok talking point for the left….but 54% of the people in Mississippi believe Obama being born in Kenya makes them nut jobs……So typical. See my moniker.

Steve

May 29th, 2012
11:08 am

Easy question: unlike Republicans, Democrats tolerate intellectual diversity. No mind-numb clones in the party on the left – only the right requires rigid adherence to the party orthodoxy.

(see how that works? giggle)

williebkind

May 29th, 2012
11:08 am

Steve

May 29th, 2012
10:56 am

Did you just began reading the paper Steve? Or do you just pick out selected articles. Here…drink some more kooooollll aid.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
11:09 am

ragnar: unlike democrats, republicans tolerate intellectual diversity. No mind-numb clones in the party on the right – only the left requires rigid adherence to the party orthodoxy.

I am afraid the opposite is true, actually.

What is with you guys and projecting your obvious faults onto the Democrats? You really REALLY must know your message can’t stand on its wn to try such blatant false bullying tactics.

josef

May 29th, 2012
11:09 am

BROSEPHUS

Some of us don’t know when to quit…all black folks are on welfare and everybody from Mississippi and Alabama are white and racists… :-)

Been thinking of changing my handle: Delusional Lickspittle Plantation Liberal…

Steve

May 29th, 2012
11:10 am

Williebkind – look up the facts on the Internets using the googles.. I dare ya.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
11:10 am

” 22% of people believe Bush knew about 9/11″ is an Ok talking point for the left….but 54% of the people in Mississippi believe Obama being born in Kenya makes them nut jobs……So typical. See my moniker.

I don’t think you made the point you think you made :lol:

Jay

May 29th, 2012
11:10 am

“When Oblama disclaims the hateful and stupid Bill Maher and sends back his $1,000,000 campaign contribution we can talk about Donald Trump. Jay’s a hypocrite for not criticizing Oblama for embracing Maher and his ilk …”

How many silly statements can be made in a single paragraph, Oblama?

First, Maher’s pledge was to an independent SuperPAC, not to the Obama campaign. Obama didn’t receive the contribution, and Obama thus has no power to return it. He opposes SuperPACs and has advocated their abolition, but until that somehow happens, Obama has no control over what Maher or the SuperPAC does.

Second, how has Obama “embraced” Maher? You made the charge; please explain how it is might be valid.

Because as far as I can tell, it is a lie. David Axelrod, Obama’s campaign adviser, canceled an appearance on Maher’s show. Obama has never spoken supportively of Maher as far as I can tell. The head of the pro-Obama SuperPAC, Bill Burton, said Maher’s comments had been “vulgar and inappropriate” (although he didn’t turn the money down.)

Burton also pointed out this morning on MSNBC that Obama would never appear with Maher, in contrast to Romney and Trump.

So please, Oblama, explain how you were right in the previous statements.

Winston Smith

May 29th, 2012
11:11 am

You might have thought Jay Bookman came up with this topic on his own. He didn’t, and usually doesn’t.

“http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/05/obama-team-bashes-romney-over-trump-support/1?loc=interstitialskip#.T8TmKSqtOSY”

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/29/11936170-first-thoughts-playing-the-trump-card?lite

Pretty amazing how in sync nearly all the critics of conservatives ALL publish stories of a similar nature on the same day, isn’t it?

What time do you get the fax or email from the Obama/DNC for today’s target?

williebkind

May 29th, 2012
11:11 am

“Easy question: unlike Republicans, Democrats tolerate intellectual diversity”

That is a lie! Democrats only tolerate those who follow the social platform. Turn the page Steve there is another article that tells you all about it.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
11:12 am

Burton also pointed out this morning on MSNBC that Obama would never appear with Maher, in contrast to Romney and Trump.

Really? I want that clip!

JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG

May 29th, 2012
11:12 am

josef

May 29th, 2012
11:03 am

Lets look at numbers and make it easy for you: Mississippi Rankings:

50th in Education
POOREST STATE IN AMERICA
#1 Child Welfare for 10 straight years
#1 in obesity

he11, we could go all day……..

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
11:12 am

Adam – 11:10 – :lol: glad I wasn’t the only one who thought that …

Adam

May 29th, 2012
11:13 am

a black man is in office …: Please chill out. Your statements are over the top and unnecessary.

zeke

May 29th, 2012
11:13 am

Better question, WHY DO YOU LEFTIST REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH NUTS TOLERATE PELOSI, REID, SHUMER, DODD, GLOVER, SHEEN, PENN, AND OBOZO?????

williebkind

May 29th, 2012
11:13 am

Winston Smith

May 29th, 2012
11:11 am
It is their gravitas! Remember how that word came out in all their commentary the same day?

Adam

May 29th, 2012
11:14 am

stevie ray....Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right...here I am...

May 29th, 2012
11:14 am

Steve,

Yes, all of this stuff happened under his watch with varying degrees of his true role. His term is not over and he got beat by convict in one state and another no-name in another. He still has several months left on his term and lobbyist still rule DC agenda, immigration has not new policy, the deficit is frightening to say the least, government waste remains out of control, the real unemployment numbers are atrocious…likely around 16%, and he continued to support Bush cuts, he panders to Wall Street and the telecoms despite rhetoric to the contrary, he’s shown not leadership skills to get congress gridlock, his foreign policy leaves much to be desired….

Too bad the alternative will also pander to the status quo…

East Lake Ira

May 29th, 2012
11:14 am

ragnar danneskjold

May 29th, 2012
11:07 am

I think you forgot to take your Chlorpromazine and Thorazine this morning.

Please see the nurse before you comment any more.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
11:15 am

zeke: Better question, WHY DO YOU LEFTIST REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH NUTS

Well, at least we’ve eliminated the possibility that zeke was addressing anyone who posts here….

Joe The Plumber Too

May 29th, 2012
11:16 am

Hey, “a black man in office” stop embarrassing all blacks with your bigoted remarks. Newsflash little fellow, all Republicans are not racists and all racists are not white. Grow up junior.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
11:16 am

zeke – I think you have a little spittle on your screen … you need a moment to grab a tissue?

Brosephus™

May 29th, 2012
11:16 am

Been thinking of changing my handle: Delusional Lickspittle Plantation Liberal…

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Beware of the impending fatwah though. ;)

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
11:16 am

Democrats only tolerate those who follow the social platform.

Earlier this morning, I asked you to explain a statement that you made and you did not reply.

I’ll ask you again, Do explain this one. You know, the basic stuff – verifiable facts, events, quotes, etc…

Because in both cases, you have been dead wrong…

stevie ray....Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right...here I am...

May 29th, 2012
11:16 am

A Black man….

Is that all you got??? Accusing all who disagree with your politics of being racists is sophomoric at best…

stands for decibels

May 29th, 2012
11:18 am

Not that he cares what I think, but “a black man” is indulging in the sort of behavior that would result in a perma-ban if I ran Jay’s blog.

josef

May 29th, 2012
11:18 am

IMAM

Took a swipe in jest at you earlier this a.m.and you DID cost me a burger, but have you read this one? Our man Obama sounds a lot like Scout…

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20120529

Adam

May 29th, 2012
11:19 am

stevie ray: Is that all you got??? Accusing all who disagree with your politics of being racists is sophomoric at best…

But wait, I thought that was the ONLY argument “liberals ever have…..

NOT.

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

May 29th, 2012
11:19 am

Good article:
Since the crash of 2008, there’s no question that millions of Americans have indeed stopped looking for a job. But that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re not working. Look around, it’s much more likely that the officially “unemployed” are busy, doing their best to make ends meet in whatever ways they can. Sex work, drugs and crime spring to mind, but the underground or “shadow” economy includes all sorts of off-the-books toil. From baby-sitting, bartering, mending, kitchen-garden farming and selling goods in a yard sale, all sorts of people—from the tamale seller on your corner, to the dancer who teachers yoga—are all contributing to the underground economy along with the “employed” who pay them for their wares.

http://www.alternet.org/story/155491/where_are_the_missing_5_million_workers_in_the_underground_economy

Jay

May 29th, 2012
11:20 am

And Moderate writes:

“Also, remember that 22% of the people believe Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks in advance and 22% said they did not know. Is this any crazier than the birthers? What percentage of Democrat donors believe this? Did Obama disavow any of their money? Both sides do not denounce the crazies because they know they are the ones who are most likely to be motivated to vote.”

Well, let’s see. You do raise an interesting parallel.

What would have happened in 2004 had John Kerry campaigned alongside, and attended fundraising events sponsored by, someone who had publicly endorsed the “Bush knew all along” nonsense? You’re right, the parallel is there. But the fact of the matter is that Kerry did NOT do that, or anything close to that.

Romney has.

getalife

May 29th, 2012
11:21 am

As will dips his toe into the real world.

Brosephus™

May 29th, 2012
11:21 am

So please, Oblama, explain how you were right in the previous statements.

Jay

You will have a much better chance of teaching a cinder block how to roll over and bark before you get some cogent answer on that one…

Just sayin’

Adam

May 29th, 2012
11:22 am

stands: I’m with you. “a black man” is making comments I find unacceptable, and I am sure many “liberal” posters here agree.

So what’s that about “liberals” never step up to repudiate stupid comments? What? I can’t hear you over the stupid comments being made by someone who I’m “supposed to” agree with.

TBone

May 29th, 2012
11:23 am

The same could be said of any number of folks on your side of the aisle who have done far less than the Donald; Howard Dean for one.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
11:24 am

stands: Times like this I wish I DID have some sort of Rule Enforcement ability….

Brosephus™

May 29th, 2012
11:24 am

Jay

If Fred warranted a suspension, doesn’t the mystery meat (h/t to JamVet) warrant similar for this display of word vomit?

godless heathen

May 29th, 2012
11:24 am

josef,

That article is a bit disturbing.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
11:26 am

“Well, let’s see. You do raise an interesting parallel.”

yeppers … we’ve got our crazees on the left … we just don’t put them up on stage …

josef

May 29th, 2012
11:26 am

JOE

Mississippi is behind Georgia, New York, California, New Jersey and three others in top in illiteracy, BTW, also the first state to have every classroom on line, pioneered heart transplant surgery, oh, I could go on and on about all that..

Poorest state in the union, yes, but its benighted denizens also contribute more of their per capita income to charitable causes than any other…

Serious health issues, yes, but you might also want to take a look at the programs it has developed to address those health issues…

Children on welfare…? I’d say that’s not such a bad idea, given the socio-economic conditions which have long plagued the state. At least they’re not starving to death…

The point I am trying to make is that you take your swipes without considering just what goes into this…

It’s easier to swipe than it is to look underneath at the challenges to that swipe…it’s the” folks in the hood” mindset of the right…

Plantation liberal? I think you are a wannabe…but sorry, your application has been rejected. :-)

Jimmy62

May 29th, 2012
11:26 am

The GOP doesn’t take Trump seriously. If they did then why didn’t he stay running for President for more than 5 minutes?

He’s funny and entertaining and seems to piss off liberals. That’s his value to the GOP. That you think we take him seriously tells me how clueless an observer you are.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
11:27 am

Adam – 11:22 – we refudiate them, as well … so take THAT

Oblama

May 29th, 2012
11:28 am

Sorry to disagree but Maher is a Dem spokes “idiot”. He has been seen with all the top Dems… including Nanny Pelosi and our 1st “IQ Challenged” VP Joseph Biden. He has contributed $1,000,000 to Barrack Hussein Oblama’s campaign. He speaks at every $60,000 a plate Dem fund raiser. He is backing a socialist. Maher has come out of the closet and he is a true far left socialist….. a true “progressive”.

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
11:28 am

Jay, THAT IS TRUE DIFFERENCE between hard core GOPers and hard core Dems.

NO Democratic candidate would dare cuddle up to a truther the way that “mainstream” (puke) neocons candidates do to these beyond insane birthers like Mr. Combover…

stands for decibels

May 29th, 2012
11:29 am

Times like this I wish I DID have some sort of Rule Enforcement ability….

A lot of the problem here is the open-endedness of the ajc blogs. I know a lot of people just love it, but I don’t; I wish people had to register to post, that there was at least a modest investment one had to make getting login privileges, for instance, to cut down on some of the mystery-meat folks. I also wish there were clown filters, so if I just didn’t feel like reading some jackass’ posts, I wouldn’t have to bother scrolling past them.

I’m sure the ajc has its reasons for keeping this as freewheeling as it is. Their blog, their rules.

Brosephus™

May 29th, 2012
11:29 am

Muchas Gracias Jay!!

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

May 29th, 2012
11:30 am

USinUk,
Give Zeke a break…with that name, he’s probably always been last in line and is just a touch bitter… ;)

St Simons - now with hamster power!

May 29th, 2012
11:30 am

“It is their gravitas! Remember..”

and their duct tape, & their teleprompter, & their whack-a-mole….
we could do this all day….glass house…etc

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
11:30 am

I’m A — “Then why is Romney polling so well against Mr. Wonderful?”

He’s not.

http://www.electoral-vote.com

Peter

May 29th, 2012
11:30 am

YUP……. Moderate Line: Over 90% of American’s believe in the Sky Fairy.

Fear is a motivator in all !

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 29th, 2012
11:30 am

“NO Democratic candidate would dare cuddle up to a truther …”

Personally, I wouldn’t state it as a matter of “daring”…I would say “NO Democratic candidate IS STUPID ENOUGH to cuddle up to a truther “

Peter

May 29th, 2012
11:31 am

Oblama . Please admit you just make stuff up……. I guess that is “Your “……. ” Mission Accomplished “.

stands for decibels

May 29th, 2012
11:32 am

we refudiate them, as well …

it stabs me in the heart, as it does yours throughout the heartland.

[...] Associated PressWhy does GOP continue to tolerate Trump?Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog)Texas may give Mitt Romney the GOP nod to face ObamaKansas City [...]

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
11:32 am

“That you think we take him seriously tells me how clueless an observer you are.”

When Mitt Romney sheepishly accepted Donald Trump’s endorsement in a hastily arranged ballroom ceremony in Las Vegas in February, the political world scratched its collective head. Even Fox News polls showed that a Trump endorsement would be more likely to hurt a presidential candidacy than to help.

It now appears that whatever motivated Romney’s initial embrace of Trump, the two remain close. The Republican presidential candidate is strengthening his ties to the real estate mogul – and relying more on his fundraising – even as Trump demonstrates increasing adherence to cracked-mirror politics.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-news-blog/2012/may/25/mitt-romney-donald-trump-birther

josef

May 29th, 2012
11:32 am

heathen

I agree. I’m still trying to digest it. Like I said, the fellow’s got a lot more in common with Scout than I’d like to think…

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
11:33 am

The GOP doesn’t take Trump seriously. If they did then why didn’t he stay running for President for more than 5 minutes?

Nonsense.

If they didn’t take him seriously he would not have been the party’s frontrunner for even five milliseconds…

Why because the GOP freak show is full of clowns!

Friday, April 15, 2011

Trump takes the lead

Only 38% of Republican primary voters say they’re willing to support a candidate for President next year who firmly rejects the birther theory and those folks want Mitt Romney to be their nominee for President next year. With the other 62% of Republicans- 23% of whom say they are only willing to vote for a birther and 39% of whom are not sure- Donald Trump is cleaning up. And as a result Trump’s ridden the controversy about Barack Obama’s place of birth to the highest level of support we’ve found for anyone in our national GOP polling so far in 2011.

Jay

May 29th, 2012
11:33 am

In other words, Oblama, you got nuttin’ after getting called out.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
11:33 am

Normal – 11:30 … you laugh, but I went from having a last name that started with a G to a last name that started with an S … being in the 2nd half of the alphabet isn’t fun!

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
11:33 am

R. Danneskjold — “unlike democrats, republicans tolerate intellectual diversity.”

Absolutely, 100% FALSE.

I speak from personal experience.

Brosephus™

May 29th, 2012
11:33 am

Adam – 11:22 – we refudiate them, as well … so take THAT

:shock:

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
11:35 am

Personally, I wouldn’t state it as a matter of “daring”…I would say “NO Democratic candidate IS STUPID ENOUGH to cuddle up to a truther “

reminded me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwk6r8TJD2U

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

May 29th, 2012
11:35 am

USinUk,
With my family name I always ended up in the front of the class…always wanted tot be an “S” or lower… :)

Jay

May 29th, 2012
11:36 am

The term “intellectual” should never be used in any way, shape or form in a discussion about Donald Trump.

Oblama

May 29th, 2012
11:36 am

Fact is Oblama’s is supported and accepts all donations from ANY source. Never seen a lawyer turn down cash – have you? Flip for cash here – and flop for cash there. Bought, wrapped up and paid for by left wing special interest groups. Morality has no place in the Oblama administration.

They BOTH spoke

May 29th, 2012
11:36 am

Oblama

Why no mention of the numeorus Republicans who have been on Maher’s show?

If you do not like Democrats going on Maher’s show, that is your right, but do not be scared, call them all out

getalife

May 29th, 2012
11:37 am

willard was too weak to call out the bither kook trump.

How can willard stand up to Iran or other countries?

Mark in mid-town

May 29th, 2012
11:38 am

I didn’t realize that Trump was Obama’s literary agent, a person who could have only gotten such mistaken information about being born in kenya from Obama himself. But our liberal msm hacks have no interest in that.

josef

May 29th, 2012
11:38 am

USinUK

One good thing about a last name that begins with N, which ever way the line up, A-Z or Z-A, just go ahead and get in the middle.. :-)

They BOTH spoke

May 29th, 2012
11:38 am

Some on here are just flailing away hoping that every 100 swings might end up with one connect……

My advise: any sort of sparing is not for you

JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG

May 29th, 2012
11:39 am

Oblama

May 29th, 2012
11:36 am

A simple google search of “obama campaign returns donation” puts holes in your story.

stands for decibels

May 29th, 2012
11:39 am

The term “intellectual” should never be used in any way, shape or form in a discussion about Donald Trump.

Even if the words “skid marks” and “fleeing to avoid contact” are included in the same sentence?

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
11:39 am

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
11:40 am

Oblama — “Morality has no place in the Oblama administration.”

GMAMFB.

Given the stinky dirtbags y’all trotted out for the primary season, I don’t think you need to waste any time or effort trying to paint the GOP as some sort of collection of moral paragons.

Thulsa Doom

May 29th, 2012
11:40 am

Jay
May 29th, 2012
11:36 am

The term “intellectual” should never be used in any way, shape or form in a discussion about Donald Trump.

Jay,

On the other hand you don’t get to be a billionaire by being an idiot. He may be an egomaniac and even a blowhard but the man is certainly intelligent.

Milo83

May 29th, 2012
11:41 am

Obama had plans to make Truther Van Jones his Green Jobs Czar. Cuddling up with a Truther in the WH is far more egregious than having one on the campaign trail.

St Simons - now with hamster power!

May 29th, 2012
11:41 am

“unlike democrats, republicans tolerate intellectual diversity.”

Best.Bill.Orvis.White.Imitating.William.F.Buckley.Evah

G Mare 71(PLEASE VOTE NO ON TSPLOST)

May 29th, 2012
11:41 am

Re the Girl Scouts: I recall a story a few months back about a politician in, I think, Indiana who wanted to boycott the girls’s cookies because of their alledged association with Planned Parenthood. It does, indeed, take all kinds.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
11:41 am

josef – 11:38 … haha … yep, you really were stuck in the middle …

Common Sense

May 29th, 2012
11:43 am

If George Bush were President we would be hearing about this from the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?_r=1&partner=MYWAY&ei=5065

But with Obama as POTUS, not a peep from you wonderful liberals.

Go figure.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
11:43 am

St. Simons — “Best.Bill.Orvis.White.Imitating.William.F.Buckley.Evah”

Damn. Just . . . just . . . just DAMN.

Post of the Year. :D

jjllss33

May 29th, 2012
11:44 am

George Will – a public intellect who does not accept the fact that humans burn enormous tonnages of fossil fuels, who is unable to understand that burning coal and oil adds carbon dioxide to the atmosphere, who cannot accept the simple measurements that show rapidly increasing levels of CO2 in the atmosphere, and who is mystified by the fact that CO2 tends to increase global temperatures. And yet, and yet, a man who calls Trump a bloviating ignoramus cannot be all bad.

They BOTH spoke

May 29th, 2012
11:44 am

Common Sense

You should be elated. He is out Bushing Bush………

As Bro has stated several times, he is Bush Light………

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
11:45 am

“On the other hand you don’t get to be a billionaire by being an idiot”

um. there are always exceptions to that rule – I don’t think I’d color Paris Hilton a rocket scientist.

Oblama

May 29th, 2012
11:45 am

Jay – you said nuttin’. Oblama and the Dems have been seen at fund raisers with Bill Maher and have accepted his cash. Bill Maher has gone to the podium and given speeches at Dem fund raisers with Oblama present. $1,000,000 gets the “Reality Show” President’s attention. Again Jay said nuttin’ for me to respond to and you can’t debate nuttin’ (hot air).

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 29th, 2012
11:47 am

“um. there are always exceptions to that rule – I don’t think I’d color Paris Hilton a rocket scientist”

And, um, I don’t think anyone actually knows what “the Donald” is actually worth.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
11:47 am

shorter Oblama – “lalalalalalalalalala … I can’t hear you … lalalalalalalalalalala”

GT

May 29th, 2012
11:47 am

What Romney does is bring the freaks into the tent. America has made politics entertainment. News providers travel in circus tents, the whole dignity of moral values has been washed away with the winds of ratings.

Obama really fits the morality bar much better than the GOP who earn their bread and butter from righteous voters. The Republican are barely club players and Obama is world class, yet never makes that his issue. Family is important to Obama, you get that idea with Newt or Trump or anybody that brings them into his tent. I couldn’t image my father ever bringing these kind of people home for dinner. In his day, they were called bums. Now we worship them?

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
11:47 am

“And, um, I don’t think anyone actually knows what “the Donald” is actually worth.”

let’s see … multiply by three … carry the bankruptcy …

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
11:47 am

C. Sense — “But with Obama as POTUS, not a peep from you wonderful liberals. Go figure.”

Several of us have and continue to express misgivings about Obama’s handling of the war here on Jay’s blog, so your objection is quite beside the point.

What I find fascinating, however, is the change of heart CONSERVATIVES have had on the selfsame issue. Locking people up for years without charges? Dandy! Accidental and suspicious looking deaths while incarcerated under the supervision of US MPs? All in a day’s work!

Obama follows similar policies as Bush? QUELLE HORREUR. :roll:

Go peddle your faux indignation elsewhere, pal.

Tundra Dude

May 29th, 2012
11:47 am

Trump ain’t no Einstein, but he may be right, being a Birther:

Inquiring Mindz want to know…
Who told Miriam he was born in Kenya…..?

The Original Birther is……,Miriam Goderich, former employee at Acton & Dystel.

http://bit.ly/J0TbmX

A promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama’s then-literary agency, Acton & Dystel, touts Obama as “born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.”

According to the booklet itself, the text was edited by Miriam Goderich, who has since become Dystel’s partner at Dystel & Goderich, an agency founded in 1994.

The booklet, which was distributed to “business colleagues” in the publishing industry, includes a brief biography of Obama among the biographies of eighty-nine other authors represented by Acton & Dystel.

It also promotes Obama’s anticipated first book, Journeys in Black and White–which Obama abandoned, later publishing Dreams from My Father instead.

———————————————————–

Obama’s biography in the booklet is as follows

Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, he attended Columbia University and worked as a financial journalist and editor for Business International Corporation. He served as project coordinator in Harlem for the New York Public Interest Research Group, and was Executive Director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago’s South Side. His commitment to social and racial issues will be evident in his first book, Journeys in Black and White.

Peter

May 29th, 2012
11:48 am

Hey Common Sense . tell us about how the GOP got Bin Laden, and the country was safer after that OK ?

Oblama

May 29th, 2012
11:48 am

Oblama is not an idiot but his running mate is a possibility for that tittle. …. and he is just one step away – a shuddering thought.

josef

May 29th, 2012
11:48 am

COMMON SENSE

“But with Obama as POTUS, not a peep from you wonderful liberals.”

This liberal began peeping about it downstairs and up here, too, Jus’ sayin’

Peter

May 29th, 2012
11:51 am

Tundra Dude .

Please tell us how Saddam Hussein, and Bin Laden were working together to create 911 ?

Please tell us how the GOP kept America safe under “their watch “.

nomoobama

May 29th, 2012
11:51 am

@ Sarah, you forgot king blunder Obama on your list. Anyone tolerating obozo needs to have their head examined…yes, im talking about you…Demonuts.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
11:52 am

Tundra – 11:47 – dude. keep up … that was refuted as quickly as it came out … evey by the people who originally published it, the braintrust at Breitbart

Brosephus™

May 29th, 2012
11:52 am

Jay @ 11:33

Just remember that you can teach a brick how to bark before you get something reasonable when you ask questions like that.

Thulsa Doom

May 29th, 2012
11:53 am

Why do Repubs tolerate Trump?

Why do liberals tolerate mindless Hollywood celebs several of whom think 9/11 was a W conspiracy?

Why does Obama tolerate Maher contributing 1 million to his superpac?

Speaking of Maher I saw that earlier Jay stated that unlike Rush Limbaugh quoting cons on this blog the libs never quote Maher. Well how can they quote him on this blog? His nasty and vicious comments towards R women wouldn’t pass the auto censor much less the imam’s censorship. And on top of that there is nothing to quote outside of his unprintable quotes. Does the man have anything of actual intellectual substance to quote when he’s not speaking in the dialect of despicable? Um. Nope.

And last I see that Jay spent the last 2 paragraphs of the article lambasting Trump over the perceived lack of wit in his criticism of Will. Is the wittiness or lack of wittiness really that important in a 2 sentence tweet? Further proof of how O got elected. Democrats value style over substance.

Brosephus™

May 29th, 2012
11:55 am

Why does GOP continue to tolerate Trump?

To sum that question up in one chart….

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/the-politics-of-the-super-rich-in-one-chart/2012/05/29/gJQAlWvyyU_blog.html

I know you like charts, Jay. :)

Oblama

May 29th, 2012
11:55 am

This election is about the economy, jobs creation in the PRIVATE sector, and the reduction of the alarming Fed debt. It’s not about Bill Maher OR Donald Trump. Nice try with the smoke and mirrors again Jay.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
11:56 am

Doom — “Why does Obama tolerate Maher contributing 1 million to his superpac?”

Mostly because candidates and their campaigns can’t legally exercise direct control over superpacs (which would include telling them to refuse or return donations). But I’m sure you already knew that.

josef

May 29th, 2012
11:56 am

Tundra

“Is the wittiness or lack of wittiness really that important in a 2 sentence tweet?”

I’d say wittiness in a two sentence tweet is fundamental, but that’s just me.

They BOTH spoke

May 29th, 2012
11:56 am

“Further proof of how O got elected. Democrats value style over substance.”

No offense but those who not only voted for Bush not once but twice, surely can say the same

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
11:57 am

“seal team 6 got him, no gop, no dems. Shut it idiot.”

:lol:

yeppers. all by themselves. just like they always do – operating without orders and intel and such.

good gawd, you people defy belief.

josef

May 29th, 2012
11:57 am

Syria, anyone?

MiltonMan

May 29th, 2012
11:57 am

Reps have Trump; Libs have Soros. When is the last time you say Jay slamming the libs for having Soros around???

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
11:58 am

“His nasty and vicious comments towards R women wouldn’t pass the auto censor much less the imam’s censorship.”

ohsweetjeebus … dude, please tell me that you’re not holding Rush up as a paragon of respect towards women

Oblama

May 29th, 2012
11:58 am

gone today – here tomorrow.

They BOTH spoke

May 29th, 2012
11:58 am

And yes TD, since you love to recall Reagan, I will call out Bush

Jefferson

May 29th, 2012
11:59 am

If you keep Maher on politics and out of religion, he kicks his Faux contemporaries silly.

josef

May 29th, 2012
12:00 pm

USinUK
@ 11:57
Just doing my EOI duties, but have you read that NYT article? I was of the oh, quit giving Obama too much credit for that…I’m now reassessing that opinion…

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
12:00 pm

josef – no thanks. that place is a mess.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
12:00 pm

MiltonMan — “When is the last time you say Jay slamming the libs for having Soros around???”

I think it was back when Soros’ NBC program went off the air.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
12:00 pm

stands: Even if the words “skid marks” and “fleeing to avoid contact” are included in the same sentence?

HAHAHAHA :lol:

They BOTH spoke

May 29th, 2012
12:00 pm

“When is the last time you say Jay slamming the libs for having Soros around???”

Not sure, but seeing that JB is a left of center opinion writer, chances are he would call out right of center and right wing more than he would those on the left.

Wingfield would be the opposite, etc, etc.

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 29th, 2012
12:00 pm

“good gawd, you people defy belief.”

Might be closer to say they DEFINE belief: I BELIEVE IT, therefore it’s true

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
12:00 pm

Oblama, tsk, tsk, tsk.

It is not a sign of weakness to admit that you have been proven wrong.

It is a sign of weakness that you think doing so is.

barking frog

May 29th, 2012
12:00 pm

Miss me yet ? -Saddam Hussein

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
12:01 pm

josef – oooo … got a linkee?

They BOTH spoke

May 29th, 2012
12:01 pm

Everyone have a great lunch

Out for awhile

Brosephus™

May 29th, 2012
12:01 pm

Reps have Trump; Libs have Soros. When is the last time you say Jay slamming the libs for having Soros around???

Probably about the same time that Soros actually held a campaign event and went onstage on behalf of a lib. Wait, he hasn’t quite done that yet, has he? Dangit!!! I hate it when y’all give me these false analogies to ponder.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
12:01 pm

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
12:02 pm

Bro – 12:01 – not to mention, he’s not chok-full-o-crazee

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 29th, 2012
12:03 pm

“Reps have Trump; Libs have Soros”

Soros is a birther? Who knew?!

Adam

May 29th, 2012
12:03 pm

Thulsa: Why do Repubs tolerate Trump?

Why do liberals tolerate mindless Hollywood celebs several of whom think 9/11 was a W conspiracy?

Tu Quoque. Your argument is forfeit.

BTW, did you see this, Thulsa: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/05/28/in-fallujah-iwo-jima-chickamauga-and-in-flanders-fields/?cp=4#comment-964383

Peadawg

May 29th, 2012
12:03 pm

All the GOPers on here whining about why Jay doesn’t call out Democrats for stoopid sh*t….do y’all whine over on Kyle’s blog too for not calling out the GOP for the mountain of crap they pull?

Look before I leap...

May 29th, 2012
12:04 pm

Seeing a whole buncha deflection but not much defense from the righties today.

josef

May 29th, 2012
12:04 pm

Adam

May 29th, 2012
12:04 pm

Thulsa: Is the wittiness or lack of wittiness really that important in a 2 sentence tweet? Further proof of how O got elected. Democrats value style over substance.

Uh, there isn’t any substance in his tweet either.

RB from Gwinnett

May 29th, 2012
12:05 pm

Your still stuck with Obama, Jay. No amount of R bashing is going to change that.

I notice you failed to mention “undecided” is giving Obama a strong challeng in quite a few states D primaries. Can you tell us more about the policies of this “undecided” character?

josef

May 29th, 2012
12:05 pm

USinUK

And it’s about to get even messier…

Brosephus™

May 29th, 2012
12:07 pm

Peadawg

You know that’s not how the game is played. There’s no complaining on Kyle’s other than liberal complaining.

stands for decibels

May 29th, 2012
12:07 pm

let’s see … multiply by three … carry the bankruptcy …

You forgot the bit about “start with 100 million of Dad’s money to spend in a booming NYC real estate market where anyone with an IQ above that of donkey crap could’ve prospered…”

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
12:07 pm

Soros, Gates, Buffet and many others have given away zillions of dollars to charity. In fact they give away more every year than the bloviating ignoramus has in his entire tawdry, narcissistic, “It’s ALL about ME!!” life.

APRIL 12–During the recent Comedy Central roast of Donald Trump, the presidential aspirant used his rebuttal time to remind the audience–and a dais of tormentors–that he had “seven billion f&cking dollars in the bank.” He delivered this rebuke with the kind of pure joy seen when a boy discovers Santa has brought him a puppy for Christmas.

More than his towering ego, vituperative tongue, or peculiar hairstyle, money has defined Trump during the 30-plus years he has spent in the public eye. He frequently brags of his billions, and even sued a journalist who had the nerve to question whether those 10-figure pronouncements were severely inflated.

Now that Trump is again threatening to run for president–and has, for the first time, gained some political traction thanks to his embrace of the “birther” movement–The Smoking Gun has examined how the 64-year-old developer has spent some of that massive fortune. Specifically, Trump’s philanthropy over the past 20 years, which has been channeled through the Donald J. Trump Foundation.

A TSG review of the group’s Internal Revenue Service returns dating back to 1990 reveals that Trump, the foundation’s president, may be the least charitable billionaire in the United States.

How miserly is The Donald?

From 1990 through 2009, Trump has personally donated a total of just $3.7 million to his foundation, which was incorporated in 1987. In fact, the billionaire is not even the largest contributor to his own charitable organization.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/trump-least-charitable-billionaire-109247

barking frog

May 29th, 2012
12:08 pm

josef
Think it will be read this
time?

mm

May 29th, 2012
12:08 pm

“list. Anyone tolerating obozo needs to have their head examined…yes, im talking about you…Demonuts.”

Isn’t it amazing how the GOP has convinced their dumbed down voters that everything was perfect until Obama got elected?

bman

May 29th, 2012
12:08 pm

Romney fundraising with Trump? If you can’t choose someone better & “do the right thing” say, like Spike Lee to raise some dough, you don’t deserve to be President.

josef

May 29th, 2012
12:08 pm

Soros=puts his money where his mouth is
Trump=puts his mouth where his money is

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
12:08 pm

RB — “I notice you failed to mention “undecided” is giving Obama a strong challeng in quite a few states D primaries. Can you tell us more about the policies of this “undecided” character?”

Why would it matter, when all the states involved are solidly red?

KJHF

May 29th, 2012
12:09 pm

JamVet

May 29th, 2012 Only to the fringes of either side.
9:21 am

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
12:10 pm

excellent josef – thanks – train reading for the ride home! :-)

Adam

May 29th, 2012
12:10 pm

Peadawg: All the GOPers on here whining about why Jay doesn’t call out Democrats for stoopid sh*t….do y’all whine over on Kyle’s blog too for not calling out the GOP for the mountain of crap they pull?

Heh.

BTW, any of the same whiners notice more than one person calling out “a black man” earlier? Thought not./

How about this time Jay got rid of one of my “liberal” posts: http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2011/09/07/phil-kent-criticism-is-a-strike-against-freedom-of-speech/?cp=13#comment-715535

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
12:10 pm

“Trump=puts his mouth where his money is”

I thought it was put his foot where his mouth is

josef

May 29th, 2012
12:11 pm

frog

It’s hard to say. Whatever happens though the bloodshed has only started. There’s just too many scores to settle now to avoid it…

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
12:12 pm

josef – 12:05 – civil war is like that … I think AQ will try to get a toe-hold there, but the people have been dealing with Assad long enough, they won’t tolerate it

Paul

May 29th, 2012
12:12 pm

“Why does GOP continue to tolerate Trump?”

“Romney has even agreed to appear at a major fundraiser hosted by Trump tonight in Las Vegas.”

Because money is the mother’s milk of politics.

Period.

josef

May 29th, 2012
12:13 pm

USinUK

Nyanh. There’s a silver spoon in the way. :-)

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
12:13 pm

Both the amount of money Trump has donated to his own foundation as well as the aggregate contributions made by the not-for-profit group are pitiful when compared to the philanthropy of other high-profile tycoons like Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Larry Ellison, Ted Turner, Michael Bloomberg, David Geffen, or S.I. Newhouse.

For example, in 2008 alone, Bloomberg’s charitable contributions totaled $235 million. In 2009, Ellison gave his medical foundation stock worth $73.2 million, according to IRS records. Newhouse’s foundation reported making donations totaling $11.8 million on its 2009 IRS return. And a tax return filed last year revealed that the late entertainer Johnny Carson even left his charitable foundation $156 million.

Trump’s miniscule donations have also been dwarfed by the charitable contributions of Leona Helmsley, whom Trump took great pleasure in mercilessly skewering. Helmsley, who died in 2007, left billions to her charitable trust, which last month alone made donations totaling $12.93 million (or nearly twice what Trump’s foundation has donated in the past 20 years).

In the aftermath of national tragedies like September 11 and Hurricane Katrina–when public figures worth a fraction of Trump were donating seven figures to relief organizations–the billionaire apparently misplaced his checkbook somewhere in his triplex atop Trump Tower.

Helmsley, by comparison, gave $5 million to the American Red Cross when New Orleans was submerged, and, post-9/11, she gave $5 million to the New York Police and Fire Widows’ and Children’s Benefit Fund.

In 2006, Trump’s foundation did give $1000 to the New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Fund, a controversial Scientology program (co-founded by Tom Cruise) that promoted a “purification rundown” for firemen and others who inhaled toxins while working near the smoldering remains of the World Trade Center.

No wonder the self-obsessed – though neer-do-well versions – revere him so…

mm

May 29th, 2012
12:14 pm

“Can you tell us more about the policies of this “undecided” character?”

Yeah, he could also defeat Robmey in November.

barking frog

May 29th, 2012
12:15 pm

josef
It’s the way a war on terror works.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

May 29th, 2012
12:15 pm

How much time have you spent in Mississippi? What DO you know about the state?

Oh my! Looks like this Joe Cool done stepped in it. There’s two things you can’t do when josef’s around: trash Mississippi and make fun of rednecks. Next thing you know, josef will be telling Joe Cool he’s going to be mashed into the pavement. Me, I just wish josef was poorer and needed to teach in the summer. It’s going to be awful hot on this blog with him on here all the time.

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
12:16 pm

You cons can run, but you cannot hide. Donald Trump is MAINSTREAM Republican.

Notwithstanding that he is a creepy little lunatic in the Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Dick Cheney mold…

Billybob

May 29th, 2012
12:16 pm

trump is a sideshow, but your column illustrates which side is the side of intolerance……it’s sad jay, that you and the left are only left with trump insults to try and paint your political opponents in a bad light…..speaks well for conservatives in nov though…..oh, and it was funny to hear obama say vietnam vets were treated bad when they came back and it was disgraceful……i guess he accidentally left the part out where it was his own ilk, including john kerry, in the democrat party that were the ones who treated and spoke of the vets that way…….fun stuff and easy to expose liberals hypocrisy

josef

May 29th, 2012
12:17 pm

USinUK

The al Qaaida link…I’m not too sure about that…even they can’t figure it out…they have been notably absent.

Unmentionable said that he thought the reason we were “staying out of it” was so that when the Sunni come in, they’ll take care of the Shia and the Iran surrogate…

Whatever comes, the Christians and Alawai are about to face their own Armageddon…

Jay

May 29th, 2012
12:18 pm

MiltonMan, what exactly is your problem with Soros?

I mean, other than the fact that you’ve been indoctrinated to believe that mere mention of his name should make children cringe in horror and dogs hide under the bed. What exactly has he done or said to make him such an object of hate?

RAMZAD

May 29th, 2012
12:18 pm

The answer is simple, and it creates an unprecedented danger for the Republican Party, in particular, and for social conservatives in general. Their hate for Obama is so profound, so all consuming, so universal that Republican ilk and apparatchik will associate with any low life, vulture, vampire, insect, reptile, termite, scavenger- Limbaugh, Coulter, Malkin, Trump, Norquist, Arpaio, Hannity, et al that expresses disdain for Obama. Intellect and reason and good government has nothing to do with it.

It is not logical, but it is real. This hate for Obama has been and continues to be an object lesson for all Americans to see that the Republican Party is not about the good of America, but about its incredible self serving lust for power and aggrandizing wealth for its lemmings.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
12:21 pm

josef – 12:17 – I saw a report that there are a few AQ there, but that the people don’t support them –

But, as it emerges during our conversation, he does not like al-Qaeda. He fears them and what they would do in Syria. And he does not believe the bombings in Damascus were done by al-Qaeda.

“This lie is being used again and again by the regime”, he said. “The regime lies all the time. They even lie about the weather. Are they telling the truth now that al-Qaeda is behind these bombings? The bombings are done by the regime.”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18193504

Thulsa Doom

May 29th, 2012
12:21 pm

“1) Citing that certain companies prefer to hire people if they see a particular university’s name is not evidence that university is turning out a better product”- Adam

Sure Adam. Companies preferring to hire folks from some universities over others is no proof that some universities turn out a better product. And I’m sure you can prove this right? Or is it just more of your opinion posing as truth.

2) We aren’t JUST talking about universities. Let’s also look at K-12, and see if the determining factor is mostly or always due to private sector involvement, shall we?- Adam

Well of course Adam. Lets just look at the micro level to start off with shall we? Do the Obama’s send their kids to Washington DC public schools or the prestigious Sidwell school?

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
12:23 pm

Jay – 12:18 – I’ve got £5 that says his answer involves MoveOn and/or manipulation of the pound.

Thulsa Doom

May 29th, 2012
12:24 pm

Joe Mama,

Yes. I think we all know that the candidates don’t control superpacs. But O is the president of the U.S. So are you telling me that if the potus told his superpac that he wanted the money returned from Maher that they wouldn’t return it? Is this man’s power and influence so limited or so inconsequential that they would not heed his request? He is the potus after all.

They both suck,

Go ahead and criticize W all ya want. Won’t bother me none. He probably deserves most of it.

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 29th, 2012
12:24 pm

” Do the Obama’s send their kids to Washington DC public schools or the prestigious Sidwell school?”

Digging deep into that trash heap aren’t you?

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
12:25 pm

“Do the Obama’s send their kids to Washington DC public schools or the prestigious Sidwell school?”

the Sidwell school, where Chelsea Clinton went, so they know that the school can handle the security issues …

sheesh.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
12:25 pm

billybob — “……i guess he accidentally left the part out where it was his own ilk, including john kerry, in the democrat party that were the ones who treated and spoke of the vets that way…….”

No, he didn’t. And it’s pretty clear that you’ve never actually READ what Kerry actually said.

Besides that, the GOP has a long history of treating the *active* military fairly well, but not treating *veterans* as well as they’d like for people to think. I’m a disabled veteran myself, and I pay *very* close attention to how lawmakers vote on veterans’ issues. I suspect the truth would surprise you.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

May 29th, 2012
12:26 pm

josef

May 29th, 2012
11:18 am

Josef,
I wonder if President Obama will issue a deck of cards for his “kill list”… :)

BTW: Delusional Lickspittle Plantation Liberal… You know? The initials to have a ring to them DLPL…sorta rolls off the tongue… :)

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
12:26 pm

Poor Mitt, if he had a working spine, he would back away from Donnie like he had the plague. (which in a matter of speaking, he does.)

But his handlers know that to do so, would kill the anyy chance he has of getting the rabid right, albeit lukewarm, “base” out to vote for him.

Clearly Romney is not really interested in the independent/centrist voters.

And why he will lose just like McCain did. ESPECIALLY after he chooses some new version of Sarah Palin.

Billybob, just curious.

As you are a big friend of veterans, were you also a big fan of the swiftboaters?

235 more days

May 29th, 2012
12:27 pm

Do you think calling Palin a cun# is comedy?
How many of you lefties agree with his thoughts. You have a sick sence of humor.

Now regarding Trump, he isn’t one of my conservative choices. I think he is a spoiled brat.
Now having said that, I could also throw out my choices of comparisions from the left side, but I won’t go there

East Lake Ira

May 29th, 2012
12:28 pm

stands for decibels

May 29th, 2012
12:29 pm

I’ve got £5 that says his answer involves MoveOn and/or manipulation of the pound.

My money is on TEH NAZZI’S!!!11!

getalife

May 29th, 2012
12:29 pm

Fred,

Go to drudge.

No moderation on links links using disqus..

Enjoy.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
12:31 pm

Doom — “Yes. I think we all know that the candidates don’t control superpacs. But O is the president of the U.S. So are you telling me that if the potus told his superpac that he wanted the money returned from Maher that they wouldn’t return it? Is this man’s power and influence so limited or so inconsequential that they would not heed his request? He is the potus after all.”

Read my previous post more closely, Doom. It would be a campaign finance violation for him to tell an associated superpac what to do. He can’t *legally* do it, and neither can anyone from his campaign. Playing fast and loose campaign finance can get you in all kinds of hot water; that’s why John Edwards is on trial right now.

Frankly, if you think that’s a simple and practical action for any candidate to take (not just Obama), then I seriously recommend that you do some reading about campaign finance laws and regulations. Candidates and their campaigns aren’t allowed to have ANY control whatsoever over outside PACs and superPACs. That disconnect was what induced congress to support campaign finance “reform.”

Billybob

May 29th, 2012
12:31 pm

joe,
i do know what kerry said through the years and you can ignore it based on politics if you want since you are a liberal democrat, but i hear what people say and hold them to it…..

Adam

May 29th, 2012
12:31 pm

Thulsa: Sure Adam. Companies preferring to hire folks from some universities over others is no proof that some universities turn out a better product. And I’m sure you can prove this right?

It’s easy enough: just because some companies prefer to hire from certain schools because their hiring managers made that decision does not PROVE that those schools turn out a better product. It may mean many things, but “turning out a better product” statistically is not one of the things that correlates to. Surely someone who is not “foolish,” such as yourself, would recognize the truth that those decisions are not necessarily based on anything other than a perception?

Well of course Adam. Lets just look at the micro level to start off with shall we? Do the Obama’s send their kids to Washington DC public schools or the prestigious Sidwell school?

Deflection. Answer the original: Do private schools in this country turn out a better product than public schools? Where specific people put their children doesn’t prove anything. Show me studies that speak to the question, not to logical fallacies.

Milo83

May 29th, 2012
12:32 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
12:32 pm

timestamp — “How many of you lefties agree with his thoughts.”

Left you a response to your Friday meltdown, pal. You’re funny when you get angry. :D

Adam

May 29th, 2012
12:34 pm

LUNCH. I’ll be back later for Thulsa’s response. One thing it will not contain: Any studies that show private education in this country turns out a better product than public, especially on the K-12 side.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
12:34 pm

billybob — “i do know what kerry said through the years”

You pretty clearly *don’t* know what he said.

“and you can ignore it based on politics if you want”

I don’t ignore it at all. In fact, I can quote it.

“since you are a liberal democrat”

No, disaffected Republican. You’re zero-for-two now, so be careful with your next swing, Slugger.

“but i hear what people say and hold them to it…..”

Okay, I’ll bite. What did Kerry say that’s got you so offended?

Watch closely, folks. This should be GOOD. :D

JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG

May 29th, 2012
12:36 pm

-Al-Qaeda No2 in Afghanistan killed, NATO says-

http://news.yahoo.com/al-qaeda-no2-afghanistan-killed-nato-says-084739426.html

“Another One Bites the Dust”

They BOTH spoke

May 29th, 2012
12:36 pm

“but i hear what people say and hold them to it….”

Based on this comment, guess you will not be voting for Romney, correct?

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
12:36 pm

dB – egads … Debbie Schlussel … I just had 2 nice cookies, and now they’re threatening to come back up … thanks for that …

getalife

May 29th, 2012
12:37 pm

cnn fecklessly calls out willard for not standing up to unhinged birthers like mccain.

Gave it five seconds of their precious time.

Talk about corporate media taking a dive for the gop.

Geez.

Paul

May 29th, 2012
12:37 pm

Afternoon, Jay

“MiltonMan, what exactly is your problem with Soros?”

As MiltonMan hasn’t answered, I’ll offer it’s likely Soros supporting MediaMatters, Center for American Progress to the tune of millions of dollars. It’s not only that MediaMatters has such a love affair with Fox, it’s that such groups (banded together in Accountability Now) also target moderate Democrats, or in their words “Congressional Democrats who vote out of line with their more liberal constituencies will face some tough times in the next election cycle.”

So Soros donates millions to groups that target not just conservatives, but moderate Democrats. I’d say that’s why his name doesn’t sit too well.

Soros’s name has the same effect upon many on the Right as mentioning the Koch brothers to many on the Left. Tends to fast forward to extreme emotions and responses.

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
12:38 pm

But for whatever reasons–gratitude, empathy, naming rights, religious beliefs, guilt, good publicity, take your pick–the country’s wealthiest families have historically helped fund hospitals, libraries, research facilities, museums, schools, and cultural institutions via significant contributions and/or recurring pledges.

But for Trump, the only buildings bearing his name have tacky gold gilding and are stuffed with overpriced condominiums.

The anti-philanthropist is a good stooge for Romney…

Thug

May 29th, 2012
12:38 pm

What do dems see in little barry?

Obama is over

May 29th, 2012
12:39 pm

Trump is a pretty easy target. I have wondered why the Democratic party puts up with Al Sharpton. His entire business model is based on maintaining the status quo. He cannot acknowledge any progress in race relations because that is the source of his money as a community organizer. Despite the fact that we have a Black President and attorney general, Sharpton would have the world believe that there are no opportunities for minorities in the United States.

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
12:40 pm

Trump is a pretty easy target.

Please do expound!

Since he is the topic…

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 29th, 2012
12:43 pm

“Why does GOP continue to tolerate Trump?”

“WHY DO THE DEMS. CONTINUE TO TOLERATE SHARPTON?”

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 29th, 2012
12:44 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
12:45 pm

0311 — “WHY DO THE DEMS. CONTINUE TO TOLERATE SHARPTON?”

Damn, Jay, that’s got to be a new record. You sent someone into fulll-throated meltdown before he even had time to compose his first post. :D

josef

May 29th, 2012
12:46 pm

MILTON MAN

I’m waiting, too…and while you’re at it, prove SFD wrong.

NORMAL

Does have a ring to it, doesn’t it?

USinUK
I don’t think any of the various factions would want al Qaaida involved on their behalf..

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
12:47 pm

“What do dems see in little barry?”

a FAB prez.

jm

May 29th, 2012
12:47 pm

Scout – hopefully obama will lay off the LSD. Don’t want him eating the face of Bibi or Merkel…..

The Thin Guy

May 29th, 2012
12:48 pm

The Donald is an expert on making money, losing money, seducing women, and getting rid of women. That makes him an expert on something whereas in the White House we have Dumb and Dumber who couldn’t find shoes in a shoebox. Nice photo of The Donald, Jay. Have you ever had a bad hair day?

josef

May 29th, 2012
12:48 pm

And for reasons I think y’all can understand, I have a problem with any government official who doesn’t send his/her kids to public school…

They BOTH spoke

May 29th, 2012
12:48 pm

Scout

That website about Obama smoking dope 30 yrs ago will sway as many voters as the weak story that Jay put up a few weeks ago about Romney being a bully in the 10th grade or whenever it was…..

getalife

May 29th, 2012
12:48 pm

jm,

Bath salts.

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
12:48 pm

josef – 12:46 – no kidding … “um, thank you SO much for your KIND offer to help, but really, we don’t want to put you out. we know you have so many other fatwas you’re juggling right now – so, don’t feel that you need to get involved in our little dispute … but, thank you again for offering to help … no, really, don’t let the door hit you … “

getalife

May 29th, 2012
12:49 pm

trump is a publicity stunt and an expert in bankruptcy and divorce.

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 29th, 2012
12:49 pm

“WHY DO THE DEMS. CONTINUE TO TOLERATE SHARPTON?”

For the same reason we continue to tolerate you.

josef

May 29th, 2012
12:49 pm

JM

What you mean, see the face of Bibi? They go to bed together every night and wake up together every morning…

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 29th, 2012
12:50 pm

They BOTH spoke

May 29th, 2012
12:51 pm

josef @ 12:48

I agree. I can see why public officials send their kids to private school, but if they were really doing something to impact public schools in a positive way, they would be leading the way with their children

josef

May 29th, 2012
12:51 pm

SCOUT

You need to go read that NYT article…seems you and President Obama are on the same page on some issues…

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
12:52 pm

Doggone — “For the same reason we continue to tolerate you.”

Come now, 0311’s been calming down a bit of late. We don’t agree on much, but he and I have actually had some civil conversations in recent weeks. :)

barking frog

May 29th, 2012
12:52 pm

Wasted days and wasted
bytes…

They BOTH spoke

May 29th, 2012
12:52 pm

Scout

Veterans at this time in 08 were polling about the same for McCain……..

I’m sure you are aware of the overall election results

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 29th, 2012
12:52 pm

jm:

I hear you. That was a pretty sick thing down there in Florida !

Generation$crewed

May 29th, 2012
12:53 pm

Jay,

The Right tolerates Trump because of money, not so much his personal money but the amount he is able to raise. He helps with fundraising.

Now a simple question is it worse to have a “birther” as a fundraiser, or is it worse to appoint a “truther” to ones adiministration (Van Jones)?

Just curious which one you think is worse?

getalife

May 29th, 2012
12:54 pm

Don’t smoke fake weed or do fake coke.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 29th, 2012
12:54 pm

josef:

Some? Perhaps ………. as is true in any candidate/election.

It’s the important ones and the future of this country that count the most for me.

P.S.

Are you off for the rest of the summer? Good to have you on here all day.

They BOTH spoke

May 29th, 2012
12:54 pm

josef

May 29th, 2012
12:54 pm

BOTH

As Granddaddy always said, don’t try to sell a product you wouldn’t buy yourself.

getalife

May 29th, 2012
12:54 pm

van jones was fired.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 29th, 2012
12:55 pm

Generation$crewed:

Good one ! Thank you.

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 29th, 2012
12:55 pm

“Come now, 0311’s been calming down a bit of late. We don’t agree on much, but he and I have actually had some civil conversations in recent weeks”

that’s why I said we tolerate him

getalife

May 29th, 2012
12:56 pm

President Obama stood up for vets like scout and del.

They BOTH spoke

May 29th, 2012
12:56 pm

jm and Mick

Not sure where you live in FL, but hope you didn’t receive any property damage due to the storm

barking frog

May 29th, 2012
12:57 pm

Jm,1801
Miami brings a new meaning
to “have a friend for dinner”.

josef

May 29th, 2012
12:59 pm

FROG
@ 12:52

:-)

SCOUT
We have to be back the last week of July…I’m sorry but that just ain’t right…I don’t care if it does jibe with the days count. And good to be here…

But as for the article, I’m being drop-dead serious when I say he sounds like you…

*****************

That Florida one…now THAT’s bizarre!

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 29th, 2012
12:59 pm

Anything to get a vote or two. He’s desperate !

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
1:00 pm

barking – 12:57 – horrible story … gah

USMC

May 29th, 2012
1:00 pm

Why does the DemocRat party continue to tolerate Minister Farrakhan?

FARRAKHAN: Soon Whites ‘Will Be Minority’ in Country They ‘Took’…
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/farrakhan-laments-sad-that-mexico-lost-california-arizona-colorado-new-mexico-through-american-trickery-soon-whites-will-be-the-minority-in-the-country-they-took/

Generation$crewed

May 29th, 2012
1:01 pm

getalife
May 29th, 2012
12:54 pm

To be fired one must be HIRED,

Are u saying they only found out at the time they fired him? Or did they know and either hire him or allow him to keep his job?

If they didn’t know, what does that say about them and who they are willing to appoint to positions that effect us all?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 29th, 2012
1:01 pm

josef:

“But as for the article, I’m being drop-dead serious when I say he sounds like you…”

Sounds like and being are two different things. He will do anything (say anything) to get those votes and then ……………………..

“AFTER THE ELECTION I WILL HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY ………. (COMRADE)” !

getalife

May 29th, 2012
1:01 pm

No scout,

President Obama stood up for you knowing that cons like you will never vote for him.

Carry on .

Thulsa Doom

May 29th, 2012
1:02 pm

Doggone,

Why the Obama’s send their kids to private school is a legitimate question. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it less so.

USinUK,

The Obama’s send their kids to a private school because of “security issues”? Really?

Sooooo,

Are you saying and admitting that private schools in general are safer because there is more discipline?

Or are you saying that the secret service for whatever reason can protect kids at a private school but can’t do the same job at a public school? Amy Carter and I believe the Bush daughters all went to public school so right there your argument is looking ridiculously weak.

Or are you saying that the Sidwell school is just better security wise because it has a moat filled with ferocious gators, an electrified barbed wired fence to keep out child molesters, and a team of ex seal mercenaries to deal with any intruders and hence Sidwell in particular is safer?

josef

May 29th, 2012
1:02 pm

FROG
@ 12:57

You’re on a roll today…

********

And Ole Scout is always ready to throw us a curve ball just when you think you’ve got him pegged…and don’t put him and Del in the same context. Scout’s not by spirit mean and hateful. Del is. IMAUO

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

May 29th, 2012
1:03 pm

Countdown

Was it any funnier when John McCain called his wife that?

getalife

May 29th, 2012
1:03 pm

gs.

Fired.

He opines at the aol blog.

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 29th, 2012
1:03 pm

“Why does the DemocRat party continue to tolerate Minister Farrakhan?”

For the same reason we tolerate you.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 29th, 2012
1:04 pm

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 29th, 2012
1:05 pm

Out on patrol. Everyone be nice.

stands for decibels

May 29th, 2012
1:05 pm

ceiling SHEETZ.

josef

May 29th, 2012
1:05 pm

SCOUT

READ the article…it ain’t about what he’s SAID but what’s he’s DONE…and it ain’t particularly flattering, btw…

*******

Oh, so now us in the public schools are supposed to accept that we aren’t deserving of the same security…hmmmm….

USinUK - pro-gay-marriage thug and former Girl Scout

May 29th, 2012
1:06 pm

“The Obama’s send their kids to a private school because of “security issues”? Really? ”

really.

“Are you saying and admitting that private schools in general are safer because there is more discipline?”

not security from other children – but from people who would like to harm them

“Or are you saying that the Sidwell school is just better security wise because it has a moat filled with ferocious gators, an electrified barbed wired fence to keep out child molesters, and a team of ex seal mercenaries to deal with any intruders and hence Sidwell in particular is safer?”

yes. that’s exactly what I’m saying :roll:

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 29th, 2012
1:06 pm

“Why the Obama’s send their kids to private school is a legitimate question. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it less so.”

When did I make any comment on where they Obamas send their children to school?

Thulsa Doom

May 29th, 2012
1:06 pm

Joe Mama,

What I was thinking was that he can publicly repudiate Maher and send a clear message to the superpac. Just like Romney did a few days ago. Its a matter of class, decency, and just doing the right thing Joe.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/romney-campaign-repudiates-superpac-plan-to-revive-rev-wright-story/

USMC

May 29th, 2012
1:07 pm

“What does the Green Party have to do with your love of Trump? Are ypou saying you love the nut case Cynthia as well? Is it just universal love you have for ALL nutcases lol?”–fred TM

I guess Fred is one of the mindless sheep that live on a steady diet of Fast Food, Video Games and Hate Talk Radio/MSNBC and have no Critical Thinking skills to help them sort out the issues.
Someone please tell fred that Cynthia was a democRat representative. The Donald doesn’t the Republican party as Jay would like you to believe May be fred has a fetish for the Donald’s “Doo”.
(I am totally kidding with you fred. LOL!) Happy belated Memorial Day to you! :-)

Peter

May 29th, 2012
1:07 pm

Not a single GOP folk on the blog has anything to say, but good at changing the subject……… and of course.never ever answers a question directed at them concerning their remarks.

Just like Cheney did…..lie and .. spew crap !

Cost plus contracts Good ! Bin Laden and Saddam working together ! Weapons of Mass destruction…………… and the best one yet…….. “deficits don’t matter ” !

Gee no wonder the GOP is financially, and morally bankrupt….. and trying hard to make all of America the same !

barking frog

May 29th, 2012
1:08 pm

Was it any funnier when John McCain called his wife
that?
………
“Hello, that.”

josef

May 29th, 2012
1:08 pm

The Obamas and the private school…

More plantation liberalism, imauo. But, what else is new?

Dee

May 29th, 2012
1:08 pm

The Bush girls nor The Carter’s daughter attended public school (the Bush girls knew how to party)
See there is this wonderful webwsite called ummm Google
You can look things up

Joe Hussein Mama

May 29th, 2012
1:10 pm

Doom — “What I was thinking was that he can publicly repudiate Maher and send a clear message to the superpac. Just like Romney did a few days ago. Its a matter of class, decency, and just doing the right thing Joe.”

A fair point, fairly articulated. Don’t know why he’s not.

josef

May 29th, 2012
1:11 pm

USMC

Fred’s been fatwah’d…the Imam’s in a foul fetter today…

Doggone/GA - 999.999.999.999 (preserving my anonymity)

May 29th, 2012
1:11 pm

“Oh, so now us in the public schools are supposed to accept that we aren’t deserving of the same security…hmmmm”

How well do you think you could teach if each child present in your school had one or more Secret Service agents near them? Come on Josef, you know perfectly well it’s not the “same security” – it’s the ability and facilities to manage EXTRAORDINARY measures of security.

John Birch

May 29th, 2012
1:14 pm

We are doomed by the polarization of the parties and the politiicians didn’t even do that. It was mostly the work of the media, Rush and Maher feeding the frenzy to build ratings. So we have posters calling Obama ‘fab pres’????? Okay we got bin Laden on his watch (not necessarily his accomplishment) and the fake unemployment number is down a little although more than half the jobless no longer recieve benefits and, therefore, aren’t counted. Oh and he promised we’d stay below 8% and we’re still above that even using the fake number. What is the Obama legacy to date? Failed diplomacy in the ME and the largest deficits in history. Doesn’t look much different than W’s to me.

Where is George W. Bush?

May 29th, 2012
1:15 pm

Bruno

May 29th, 2012
1:15 pm

Quick straw poll. Obama vs. Romney will result in:

A. A big win for Obama

B. A tight victory for Obama

C. A big win for Romney

D. A tight victory for Romney

Bragging rights are at stake…….

Where is George W. Bush?

May 29th, 2012
1:19 pm

Bruno@1:15 none of the above.

They BOTH spoke

May 29th, 2012
1:19 pm

Bruno

Hope you enjoyed your weekend

B is my pick………. especially in the total vote count

Billybob

May 29th, 2012
1:22 pm

Why does the AJC continue to tolerate Bookman? wow, is your paper hiring jay, b/c i can do that too…..

jm

May 29th, 2012
1:25 pm

RE FL, bath salts, LSD etc (getalife / TBS / Scout / frog)

Yeah, totally whacked out. I’ve been over that bridge several times…… even walked down in that area…. may think twice about that one in the future….

“Miami brings a new meaning
to “have a friend for dinner”.”

vomit….

Jay

May 29th, 2012
1:29 pm

“Do you think that increasing the debt will get our finances in order?

No, Straitroad, I do not. However, I also recognize that the GOP proposals do nothing but make the problem even worse.

Seriously, how can a party claim to be serious about the deficit when raising defense spending and cutting taxes remain the two main planks in their party platform? It makes no sense whatsoever.

josef

May 29th, 2012
1:30 pm

Doggone

I went to a public school at a time we had a federale in every classroom AND at every entry and exit…and we learned A LOT from teachers who TAUGHT…Jackson, Mississippi, 1970.

Thulsa Doom

May 29th, 2012
1:33 pm

“Deflection. Answer the original: Do private schools in this country turn out a better product than public schools? Where specific people put their children doesn’t prove anything. Show me studies that speak to the question, not to logical fallacies.”

Ask and you shall receive Adam. And after I show you these studies we will then ask the teachers what they think shall we?

In the first set of analyses, all private schools were
compared to all public schools. The average private
school mean reading score was 14.7 points higher
than the average public school mean reading score,

The average private
school mean mathematics score was 7.8 points higher
than the average public school mean mathematics score,

The average private school
mean reading score was 18.1 points higher than the
average public school mean reading score

Now of course this study rather than looking at the absolute differences then “adjusted for differences” in the way of race and various other factors to arrive at the conclusion that public schools did as well or possibly even better than private schools. The study of course was funded by the U.S. govt(no bias there huh) and as I said did certain “adjustments” to get the scores they wanted. But the absolute numbers before “adjustments” were higher in the private schools Adam. There ya have it!

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/pdf/studies/2006461.pdf

Billybob

May 29th, 2012
1:35 pm

jay,
fyi……big gov’t leftist liberalism in a country with a constitution that vows limited gov’t is what makes no sense whatsoever……you will realize that in nov

Thulsa Doom

May 29th, 2012
1:38 pm

USinUK,

Perhaps you can provide a link of Sidwell showing its vast defense network and its state of the art security and missile defense systems to back up your statement about why its facilities are so much more secure than say a DC public school.

JamVet

May 29th, 2012
1:39 pm

We are doomed by the polarization of the parties and the politiicians (sic) didn’t even do that. It was mostly the work of the media, Rush and Maher feeding the frenzy to build ratings.

Nope.

Per the exact words of Representative Tom Price – GA, it is because of the leadership in the two parties.

ken

May 29th, 2012
1:40 pm

And why do you put up with George Soros ????

Adam

May 29th, 2012
1:40 pm

Several pages and so far the most prominent argument against tolerating Trump is Tu Quoque.

Are there any Republican supporters with a better argument? If they exist they must not be frequenting this blog….

Bill Orvis White

May 29th, 2012
1:42 pm

So a man who has a little bit of confidence is called a jerk? Methinks yer a tad jealous of a successful businessman who has an acumen for running classy operations – AND HAS REAL-WORLD experience as compared to the Theorist-in-Chief.
I love Mr. Trump just as much or even more than the honorable Governor Willard “Mitt” Romney. Mr. Trump has more leadership skills in his pinky than all of what’s in the Hussein Obama “administration.”
Amen,
Bill

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

May 29th, 2012
1:43 pm

Seriously, how can a party claim to be serious about the deficit when raising defense spending and cutting taxes remain the two main planks in their party platform? It makes no sense whatsoever.

Reality and the Republicans have never been the closest of friends.

Only way out of this financial mess is to raise taxes and cut spending with most of the cuts coming in defense spending.

The Republicans will never allow either. The party is tied to the failed ideology of “trickle down” economics. The problem is nothing ever trickles down. It just stays with the rich.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
1:45 pm

Alright Thulsa, if the private schools turn out a better product statistically speaking, as you are showing, how do you explain that people taken from public schools are not doing any better after being put in private schools? Are the scores in the study broken down by students who have always been in private school and those who have not?

Further, how does this fit into your larger argument that private is always better than public in terms of efficiency?

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

May 29th, 2012
1:45 pm

Mr. Trump has more leadership skills in his pinky than all of what’s in the Hussein Obama “administration.”

And he is white !!!! Bonus !!!!

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

May 29th, 2012
1:52 pm

Further, how does this fit into your larger argument that private is always better than public in terms of efficiency?

Private isn’t better. Its almost always more wasteful. You wouldn’t believe the amount of money that is wasted in the private sector. Ive worked at companies where it was nothing to spend a thousand bucks to feed the staff for a day.

Go to your local courthouse or local government office and see how many times they have done that.

A: Never

Obviously im not for making everything government owned. Both have their place.

But the idea somehow that private sector is so efficient and doesn’t waste anything is just plain false.

Adam

May 29th, 2012
2:05 pm

But the idea somehow that private sector is so efficient and doesn’t waste anything is just plain false.

Exactly.

Jay

May 29th, 2012
2:23 pm

“Reagan had a Democrat Congress which heavily influenced spending (drove much of it),

Absolutely false, as any close look at the history of that period will demonstrate. Year after year, the final budgets passed by Congress in that era came in almost exactly at the amount that President Reagan had requested. That’s just a simple mathematical fact.

Jay

May 29th, 2012
2:27 pm

Mr. Burgundy, your analysis would do your namesake proud.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
2:42 pm

Romney booed out of inner city Philly neighborhood today with heckles of ” what are you doing here”……..And then in the next week or two on a Sunday morning news program we will here a Democratic Mayor from a heavy Democratic city tell us that Romney has not reached out to us. Beautiful, just beautiful.

Jay

May 29th, 2012
2:43 pm

Ron Burgundy, stop peddling such blatant nonsense. Craig Robinson was rehired by Oregon State because, as Factcheck.org points out, “he has led his team to the most wins it has had in back-to-back seasons in almost 20 years.”

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/stimulus-saves-first-ladys-brother/

Once again, the capability of the right wing to generate, propagate and then believe in such volumes of unmitigated baloney is astounding. And it never stops. Once one rumor is shot down, they generate another 20 in its place, each of them equally unbelievable.

It is truly a phenomenon, and one that does not speak highly of those who get swept up in it. Just another example of life on the conservative Holo-deck.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

May 29th, 2012
2:47 pm

Bain infusion of cash to a company= jobs any way you spin in. People get rich. You bet. Funny we only here about that failed ones…..and speaking of failing, the executives who drove Fannie Mae into to mountain, who ought to be in jail, have ALL showed up with positions on Obama’s reelection campaign staff………………….Unbelievable.

Jay

May 29th, 2012
5:53 pm

JohnnyReb, that’s a much more accurate and fair assessment, although I’d note that it attributes increased spending to Obama that he had nothing to do with and that were driven automatically by the high jobless rate, declining income etc.

It’s also important to note its bottom line:

“All told, government spending now appears to be growing at an annual rate of roughly 3 percent over the 2010-2013 period, rather than the 0.4 percent claimed by Obama and the MarketWatch analysis.”

That 3 percent annual increase is a lot less than under any previous president since Carter, and less than half the increase of Reagan and Bush II. So my point still stands: Obama is thrifty compared to his predecessors, and far from the free-spending caricature drawn by the right.

Z

May 29th, 2012
7:08 pm

Mitt Romney needs his republican buddies to hold down Trump and cut his hair..Birds of a Feather flock together, both hucksters..snake oil salesmen..

ODD OWL

May 29th, 2012
8:07 pm

Mittens “Mucho Pasos” Romney’s association with that bloviating ignoramus Donald Trump, causes one to question Romney’s character or lack thereof…

Donald Trump Critic

May 29th, 2012
8:09 pm

Jay why did you use that particular picture? You could have used the other one where Trump had just returned from the hairdresser!!!

ODD OWL

May 29th, 2012
9:48 pm

Mittens Romney have surrounded himself with morally reprehensible, despicabe people…

Mr Right

May 29th, 2012
11:52 pm

Gordon

May 29th, 2012
8:58 am

I guess the same reason the Democrats continue to tolerate Al Sharpton.

You got em good!

Mr Right

May 29th, 2012
11:54 pm

Mittens Romney have surrounded himself with morally reprehensible, despicabe people…

I wonder if they paid their taxes ?

Mr Right

May 29th, 2012
11:57 pm

Jay

May 29th, 2012
5:53 pm

Wow what would the debt be if Obama wasn’t so thrifty ? Nice try Jay

ld

May 30th, 2012
12:43 am

Fred

Though I prefer the humor of Jon Stewart, I usually find Bill Mahar entertaining even when I may disagree with him.

Given the snobby attitude of many Republicans, including some that post here, this independent suspects that the reason some Republicans like to keep Trump around is the hope that they look more sane by comparison.

Joel Edge

May 30th, 2012
6:11 am

“Why does GOP continue to tolerate Trump?”

It’s called freedom. Look it up.