Mitt Romney’s plan to federalize education reform

“What we do not need are prescriptive top-down mandates emanating from Washington D.C., which are so fashionable among many in the nation’s capital.”

– Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, in his foreword to Mitt Romney’s “white paper” on education.

Promises such as that have become boiler-plate in Republican campaigns, which take as a given that there is no problem that cannot and should not be attributed to meddling by the federal government.

However, in reading Romney’s 35-page education white paper (more on that later), I was struck by the contradiction between that boiler-plate promise and the long string of new requirements that Romney would place on state and local governments.

They include, and I quote (emphasis mine):

“Require states to adopt open-enrollment policies for students receiving Title I and IDEA funds, and to eliminate caps on charter and digital schools.” (Note: This part of the Romney plan would create a federally funded school voucher system, using federal tax dollars. Is a federal voucher system an enumerated power in the Constitution?)

– “To expand the supply of high-performing schools in and around districts serving low-income and special-needs students, states accepting Title I and IDEA funds will be required to take a series of steps to encourage the development of quality options:

First, adopt open-enrollment policies that permit eligible students to attend public schools outside of their school district that have the capacity to serve them. Second, provide access to and appropriate funding levels for digital courses and schools, which are increasingly able to offer materials tailored to the capabilities and progress of each student when used with the careful guidance of effective teachers. And third, ensure that charter school programs can expand to meet demand, receive funding under the same formula that applies to all other publicly supported schools, and access capital funds.”

– “Replace federally mandated school interventions with a requirement that states create straightforward public report cards that evaluate each school on its contribution to student learning.”

“States must have in place standards to ensure that every high school graduate is prepared for college or work and, through annual testing, hold both students and educators accountable for meeting them. The results of this testing, for both their own children and their schools, must be readily available to parents in an easy-to-understand format.”

“… states seeking block grants will be required to establish evaluation systems based in part on effectiveness in advancing student achievement, reward effective teachers and principals with additional compensation and advancement opportunities, eliminate or reform teacher tenure, streamline the certification process for becoming a teacher, and prohibit seniority-based transfer and dismissal rules (including Last In, First Out layoffs).”

If I didn’t know better, I’d say that those sound very much like “prescriptive top-down mandates emanating from Washington D.C., which are so fashionable among many in the nation’s capital.”

They sound as if Washington will be dictating how teachers will be hired and fired and also how they will be compensated, evaluated and promoted. They sound as if Washington would dictate how and even whether teacher tenure is granted. They sound as if Washington will require states to promote vouchers and charter schools. They sound as if Washington will dictate standardized testing of students and how those tests will be used.

We can debate the wisdom of such steps, and as I noted above, I intend to come back to the white paper and to Romney’s speech this week on the topic, because it contains some important material. But for the moment, let’s just acknowledge the basic hypocrisy involved in claiming to reject federal mandates on Washington and then proposing an entire new slate of those very mandates.

The idea of a federal voucher alone makes this a Washington intervention of historic proportions.

– Jay Bookman

230 comments Add your comment

mm

May 25th, 2012
12:43 pm

What happened to the rightwing cry of “keep the government out of my life”?

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

May 25th, 2012
12:47 pm

Cosnervatives? Hypocrits? No way!

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

May 25th, 2012
12:48 pm

Keep the guvmint out of my trailer park!

S.C. studies show poor, blacks most likely to play lottery often

May 25th, 2012
12:49 pm

Jay says,
The idea of a federal voucher alone makes this a Washington intervention of historic proportions.

_______

We all know how that works. Georgia has the HOPE scholarship fund that does not have an income cap for recipients. The poor and middle class are the ones that actually play but the higher income brackets receive a majority of the scholarships.

http://arkansasnews.com/2009/07/26/sc-studies-show-poor-blacks-most-likely-to-play-lottery-often/

Doggone/GA

May 25th, 2012
12:53 pm

What happened to the rightwing cry of “keep the government out of my life”?

You only quoted part of it: “What happened to the rightwing cry of “keep the government out of my life BUT IN YOURS”?

RB from Gwinnett

May 25th, 2012
12:55 pm

Keep propping up the empty suit, Jay.

If this crap is the best reason you have for people to vote for Obama, November isn’t going to be very kind.

Soothsayer

May 25th, 2012
12:56 pm

Jay, is it me or does it seem like there’s lunacy under every Fright-Wing rock you turn over.

Mighty Righty

May 25th, 2012
12:56 pm

I agree with Jay. Sounds like the schools and teachers will be required to teach. I realize this is a novel concept for many of todays liberals which prefer a school system that doesn’t hurt anyone’s feelings especially the feelings of school teachers. (These concerns of course are manifested in large contributions to the Democrat party by the favored teacher unions.) I remember well how the D.C. voucher system was workinh so well. It gave poor and disadvantaged children access to education which had previously been denyed to the students by the liberal policies of Democrat favored teacher unions. Alas, the Democrats immediately upon resuming power eliminated the voucher program thereby plunging the poor and disadvantaged they calim to care for, back into the dismal and failed learning system that is so typical of todays liberal controlled schools. Romney gives me hope. Maybe stupidity can be reversed.

yuzeyurbrane

May 25th, 2012
1:02 pm

It is something we should be used to in Georgia. Every private education institution is actively seeking to enhance its budget with public funds. Hypocrisy is rife among these folks, especially those from parochial schools who claim some sort of moral mission from God to help the poor. And they are pandered to by every “conservative” politician in the state.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 25th, 2012
1:03 pm

ZOMG SOSHULIZUM

Mighty Righty

May 25th, 2012
1:07 pm

On this Memorial day weekend, I would like to thank all of those who serve and have served this greatest of all nations, sacrificing their time, wealth, health and lives for the benefit of all of us. Thanks to their loved ones who suffer and have suffered as well. God Bless all of you.

Soothsayer

May 25th, 2012
1:09 pm

All of these Fright-Wing education “plans” have at their root the same concept. Letting rich taxpayers use public funds to send their kids to private schools. How many times will they keep trotting the same old tired concept?

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

May 25th, 2012
1:11 pm

No mention of using a national list of textbooks? Any way we can keep states like Texas from writing their own biased textbooks which leave out important historic details and repaint whatever they don’t want people to remember?

Fred ™

May 25th, 2012
1:12 pm

Mighty Righty: You are welcome.

Brosephus™

May 25th, 2012
1:13 pm

Jay

Don’t you realize it’s only hypocrisy if the ideas originate from specific people?

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

May 25th, 2012
1:13 pm

I would like to thank all of those who serve and have served

Now, let’s cut their benefits? That usually follows when a conservative wants to thank the troops. “We love you, but you really don’t need all those health benefits, education benefits, pay increases..our love and devotion should be quite enough.”

Mighty Righty

May 25th, 2012
1:18 pm

Poor liberals. Can’t talk about Obama’s accomplisments becuase there are none. So for the next five months the left’s focust will be to desparage Romney and Republican plans to do what Obama has been unable to do, and that is to improve whatever the subject is. Obama has been such a complete failure there is not a single subject domestic or global that has improved during his term. Obama himself has admitted as much by ignoring his own record while focusing on things Romney has yet to do as Jay does with this article. There is good news for the looney left, however. You will get to vote for Obama again in 2016 as he tries to regain the presidency.

Mighty Righty

May 25th, 2012
1:20 pm

Finn

It is the Democrats and Obama that have closed VA hospitals. Can you name one, just one benefit Republicans have cut. I am a veteran and would really like to know.

Jefferson

May 25th, 2012
1:21 pm

If Romney wins,he will do what he is let do.

Jefferson

May 25th, 2012
1:22 pm

They cut the hope money.

Fly-On-The-Wall

May 25th, 2012
1:24 pm

A typical response from a conservative. We don’t want Washington involved in anything – except for .

Fly-On-The-Wall

May 25th, 2012
1:25 pm

Interesting … it didn’t like the < symbols. It was suppose to read "…except for – start your list here."

RB from Gwinnett

May 25th, 2012
1:25 pm

Finn, no we shouldn’t cut their benefits or those of teachers firemen police the IRS elderly welfare recipients DOT FDA librarians any any other public employee. We should just raise taxes on people whose incomes have been cut over the past few years while their benefits and property taxes and insurance have all gone up because we sure wouldn’t want public employees to share in any of the pain being felt by the private sector would we???

mm

May 25th, 2012
1:28 pm

Aren’t vouchers a form of socialism?

RB from Gwinnett

May 25th, 2012
1:29 pm

The problem with HOPE is the out of control increases in tuition, not a lack of income. It has a spending problem just like the federal government.

Mighty Righty

May 25th, 2012
1:30 pm

Finn

Here is a link to remind all when Obama wanted veterans to use their own health insurance to pay for treatment of their battle wounds. The most despicable proposal by any administration in my life time. The idea that men and women who sacrificed for this country would have to pay for treatment of their injuries suffered in combat. Public pressure went nuts and FORCED Obama to withdraw this stupidity. But the example is evidence of the disregard this administration has for our men and women in uniform.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yOZ0Fz7sww

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

May 25th, 2012
1:31 pm

The problem with HOPE is it is used by people who can afford the education without using it. It needs income caps.

GT

May 25th, 2012
1:32 pm

Republicans can’t fix it, they really don’t believe in education. They believe in power which is a big difference. If they educated the masses there would be a dried up pond where the Republicans use to live. They recruit dull citizens like they claim gays recruit straights only they are far more successful at the dumb down America campaign, which is the mother’s milk to their existence.

mm

May 25th, 2012
1:32 pm

“We should just raise taxes on people whose incomes have been cut over the past few years while their benefits and property taxes and insurance have all gone up because we sure wouldn’t want public employees to share in any of the pain being felt by the private sector would we???”

The private sector employees are in pain because their salaries have been cut and/or stagnated for the last 20 years to increase corporate profits. And that’s just the folks that still have a job.

It’s a pretty simple choice this November.

Either you want our citizens running this country or you want corporations running this country.

We all know where each party stands.

Jefferson

May 25th, 2012
1:32 pm

The problem is the ga GOP gov’t decided to cut funds rather than use means testing.

Peadawg

May 25th, 2012
1:32 pm

“The problem with HOPE is it is used by people who can afford the education without using it. It needs income caps.”

^^this^^

The first proposal years ago had caps, didn’t it?

mm

May 25th, 2012
1:34 pm

MR,

“But the example is evidence of the disregard this administration has for our men and women in uniform.”

Your dispicable con party voted no on every effort to help out our veterans, from pay to housing to insurance. STFU.

Brosephus™

May 25th, 2012
1:35 pm

We should just raise taxes on people whose incomes have been cut over the past few years while their benefits and property taxes and insurance have all gone up because we sure wouldn’t want public employees to share in any of the pain being felt by the private sector would we???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmPRHJd3uHI

I guess the fact elude you that job growth would have been much better if it not were for the loss of government (public sector) jobs all throughout the recovery. I guess you also ignore that, on the fed level, public sector employees have contributed an additional $75 B over the next 10 years for debt reduction while no other segment of this country has contributed one cent extra. But in your mind, yeah, the public sector isn’t feeling any pain. :roll:

Mick

May 25th, 2012
1:35 pm

Republicans and education kind of like oil and water, they just don’t mix. Notice how in education it’s all the union teachers faults or in gov’t it’s all president obama’s fault. Quite pathetic in its shortsightedness and ignorance, but hey, it works for them day in and day out…

Ennis

May 25th, 2012
1:36 pm

I really don’t know what the “right” answer is to education. But when public schools graduate students that can’t compose a complete complex sentence, or do basic math in their heads, something is terribly terribly wrong. Billions (that’s with a B) has been spent on education in the last few decades and it is only getting worse. I’m not suggesting that Mitt has the ‘right” answer, but something has got to change in the way we teach our children….

Jefferson

May 25th, 2012
1:36 pm

The GOP mindset is why they are losing.

Oscar

May 25th, 2012
1:38 pm

Romney’s plan is not what we need. Example of bad thinking. More federal control of local schools is not the way to go.

Mick

May 25th, 2012
1:38 pm

ennis

Most of the time the reason why so many don’t know those basics is because they don’t speak english, get it?

Recon 0311 2533

May 25th, 2012
1:38 pm

At least ideas that could produce better results than what we have today on average nationally within our public school system. The Democrats idea, teacher unions and more teacher unions.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 25th, 2012
1:38 pm

Righty — “Here is a link to remind all when Obama wanted veterans to use their own health insurance to pay for treatment of their battle wounds. The most despicable proposal by any administration in my life time. The idea that men and women who sacrificed for this country would have to pay for treatment of their injuries suffered in combat. Public pressure went nuts and FORCED Obama to withdraw this stupidity. But the example is evidence of the disregard this administration has for our men and women in uniform.”

Just FYI, insurance subrogation in the VA has been around since LONG before I entered the VAHC system in the early 90s.

And while we’re on the topic of political outrages done to veterans, don’t forget that President Bush kicked all Category 8 veterans out of the system in 2005 (me included) and that the GOP tried to cut VA funding in HALF the following year.

I pay VERY close attention to veterans’ issues, pal, and the GOP isn’t the friend to veterans that you seem to want to think they are.

RB from Gwinnett

May 25th, 2012
1:39 pm

Means testing is just another way for liberals to turn HOPE into another vote buying social program. There is no “we the people” in anything you do. Just one take from your neighbor scheme after the next.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

May 25th, 2012
1:40 pm

So the liberal Washington Post has given the whole “Obama most frugal since Ike”.

Not one
Not two
but 3 Pinocchios for accuracy.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/the-facts-about-the-growth-of-spending-under-obama/2012/05/24/gJQAIJh6nU_blog.html

When are facts not the facts? When they are distorted BS.

I don’t know what is more frustrating, Politicians who don’t get anything done but get themselves re-elected or the modern press that can’t give the American people some unbiased information.

They BOTH suck

May 25th, 2012
1:42 pm

Hope everyone has a great and safe holiday weekend…..

Lets kick it off early…………. Tito style

Tito Puente Jr’s band will be lighting up Piedmont Park on Sunday night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUhZZR4mEp8&feature=relmfu

Be there or be an L7………….

Peace and love

I’m out

Oscar

May 25th, 2012
1:44 pm

Recon 0311 2533

May 25th, 2012
1:38 pm
____

So you agree with Romney that we need more federal control from Washningto. I’ll put you down for that.

Thulsa Doom

May 25th, 2012
1:44 pm

Oh noes. Texas is writing their own biased textbooks. The sky is falling. The sky is falling.

Mick

May 25th, 2012
1:45 pm

Oh, and by the way, jeb bush the great republican master of educational needs, is the reason why florida is so screwed up today with testing. He initiated the testing regime and it has gotten progresively worse. This year, the test and the private companies that administer these test have finally started to come under the microscope, and they are failing bigtime, the problem? Their tests are neither reliable and valid because of all the changes they introduce every year. Josef stalin said, “it doesn’t matter how many votes you get, its who counts the votes that matters”. In testing, it doesn’t matter who takes the test, it’s whose grading those tests that matter. SAT – the only valid and relibale legitimate testing organiztion, all others are fly by night operations in cahoots with those evil republicans…

Joe Hussein Mama

May 25th, 2012
1:47 pm

Doom — “Oh noes. Texas is writing their own biased textbooks.”

Texans can write? Will wonders never cease? :D

Mighty Righty

May 25th, 2012
1:47 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

As usual you are just wrong.

Sheez Louise

May 25th, 2012
1:47 pm

Ok…so I’m wondering why exactly am I agreeing with most of the stuff I am reading in his proposal. This is ROMNEY talking?? Yeah… hypocrisy.

davetv

May 25th, 2012
1:48 pm

The only hypocrisy I see here is from those people who on one hand claim that the poor and middle class are getting the shaft and then complain when someone offers a plan where everyone has a chance/funds to go to the school of their choice. In what way is giving more control of education to the states and local schools a problem? Why do you insist that some unelected bureaucrat in D.C. with no skin in the game is in a better position to determine what is best for your children and how your tax dollars are spent? If your kids are getting a bad deal, if your kids have a horrible teacher, if your kids are passed through the school system with no knowledge other than how to pass a standardized test, what can you do about it?

The way the system is now (unless you can afford to send your kids to private school) there is nothing you can do. If we didn’t send our education dollars to D.C. and then have to beg to get it back, we would have more control over the situation. If our State governments and local school boards were in charge of spending, curriculum, and hiring/firing practices- we could show up and complain about a problem and/or vote them of office. If schools were run more like a business where they had to compete for students/dollars, the need to actually provide a service to your children would increase. If parents started pulling their kids out of a certain school because the teachers suck, how soon would that school bring in better teachers? They would have to or we would shut them down for lack of funding.

It seems that this article (opinion piece) is focusing on placing blame on Republicans because they want to shift powers/rules/mandates to the states rather than the federal government. It doesn’t mention that requiring schools to have standards based on performance, open enrollment and an evaluation system for teachers is a bad thing. No, the only problem anyone has with those ideas is that your guy wasn’t the one to come up with it. If Obama had suggested all these reforms in the education system, you’d be lauding him as a forward thinker and claim he’s battling for the poor or middle class. It must really stick in your craw that the person/party who wants to help you have more control over your kids education is a dreaded/hated/rich Republican.

Could it possibly be that you are the ones who care more about the politics of it all rather than your kids well-being? Or perhaps you really don’t want to have more control of your kids education. Perhaps you feel you’re not smart enough to have that kind of responsibility. Or perhaps you just don’t want to be bothered or you simply don’t care. That is exactly what your party thinks of you… that you’re too stupid to understand and need to have important decisions taken out of your control. Obviously you agree with that analysis because you gladly accept the situation and bitch and moan when someone suggests you take personal responsibility for your life, health-care, education, etc.

Have a nice day.

jm

May 25th, 2012
1:49 pm

knew this was coming :)

jm

May 25th, 2012
1:50 pm

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush Mitt Romney

Mighty Righty

May 25th, 2012
1:51 pm

Mick

You don’t have to go to Florida to see how well the “public school systems” teach. Just review the Atlanta School system where both students and teachers failed.

jm

May 25th, 2012
1:52 pm

“If I didn’t know better, I’d say that those sound very much like “prescriptive top-down mandates emanating from Washington D.C., which are so fashionable among many in the nation’s capital.””

You liberals love these things. Now you can vote for Romney. :)

They BOTH suck

May 25th, 2012
1:52 pm

davetv

Actually the majority of your education dollars do come from state and local levels

jm

May 25th, 2012
1:54 pm

“The idea of a federal voucher alone makes this a Washington intervention of historic proportions.”

If Obama and liberals had their act together, and had already fixed a broken system, there wouldn’t be the need to discuss this or find new solutions.

But Obama and liberals haven’t fixed the system. The status quo is not acceptable and Romney deserves great credit for looking to continue reformation of a broken education system.

Romney 2012.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 25th, 2012
1:54 pm

Jay:

“We can debate the wisdom of such steps, and as I noted above, I intend to come back to the white paper and to Romney’s speech this week on the topic, because it contains some important material. But for the moment, let’s just acknowledge the basic hypocrisy involved in claiming to reject federal mandates on Washington and then proposing an entire new slate of those very mandates.”

If this is true it is not the right approach …………….. BUT…………. it pales in comparison to the dozens of other issues that Romney is heels over head better than Obama.

Keep whistling in the dark.

Jefferson

May 25th, 2012
1:55 pm

Some folks just don’t want someone to get something easier than they did.

jm

May 25th, 2012
1:55 pm

Liberals eat sleep and breathe federal mandates. So you should be thrilled at the expansion of federal power.

Me, less so.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 25th, 2012
1:56 pm

Headline: “Foreign students enjoy new summer job protections — but what about Americans?”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/foreign-students-enjoy-new-summer-job-protections–but-what-about-americans/2012/05/22/gIQA3D1CjU_story.html?tid=pm_pop

Americans first? Not in an Obama administration !

Mick

May 25th, 2012
1:56 pm

mighty

That is a loser cop out attitude; why do you cons always focus on the negative? What about all the scholars and honor students that public schools are producing? There are a heckuva a lot more excellent, good, average students then there are the poor and failing yet thats all you focus on but I’d bet my bottom dollar that you wouldn’t let that happen to your kid – because you care. There’s your answer right there…

Jefferson

May 25th, 2012
1:58 pm

numbers, the president would hire Americans 1st, the GOP won’t.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 25th, 2012
1:59 pm

Jay:

Did you overlook this one?

Headline: “Forget Bain — Obama’s public-equity record is the real scandal”

“Despite a growing backlash from his fellow Democrats, President Obama has doubled down on his attacks on Mitt Romney’s tenure at Bain Capital. But the strategy could backfire in ways Obama did not anticipate. After all, if Romney’s record in private equity is fair game, then so is Obama’s record in public equity — and that record is not pretty.

Since taking office, Obama has invested billions of taxpayer dollars in private businesses, including as part of his stimulus spending bill. Many of those investments have turned out to be unmitigated disasters — leaving in their wake bankruptcies, layoffs, criminal investigations and taxpayers on the hook for billions.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/forget-bain-obamas-public-equity-record-is-the-real-scandal/2012/05/24/gJQAXnXCnU_story.html

ken

May 25th, 2012
2:01 pm

For America to have good schools we need parents and morals. Parents and morality are in the history books.

Fred ™

May 25th, 2012
2:02 pm

Mighty Righty

May 25th, 2012
1:51 pm

Mick

You don’t have to go to Florida to see how well the “public school systems” teach. Just review the Atlanta School system where both students and teachers failed.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

And Don’t forget to thank President Bush and his unfunded mandate, No Child Let Behind for that failure………

Mick

May 25th, 2012
2:03 pm

1811

Well, at least obama was promoting employment unlike romney gobbling up companies and shredding them for personal gain. Obama has gained nothing except your eternal ire – no matter what. He has kept us safe and got bin laden, don’t forget it. Remind me, what is romneys most significant accomplishment to date?

davetv

May 25th, 2012
2:03 pm

They both suck:

The Department of Education is requesting $69.8 billion in discretionary funding for Fiscal Year 2013, an increase of $1.7 billion, or 2.5 percent, from 2012.

How much of that $69.8 billion will make it back to our schools? Don’t you think your local school district could more efficiently use their share of that budget?

Joe Hussein Mama

May 25th, 2012
2:03 pm

Righty — “As usual you are just wrong.”

Well, sorta. Bush actually kicked Category 8 veterans out of the VAHC system in 2004, not 2005 as I said. So I guess you win that one. (laughing) :D

On the other topic, read it at weep:

“C. Bush Administration underfunded veterans’ health care by $2 billion. The Bush Administration’s 2004 budget underfunded veterans’ health care by nearly $2 billion. (”Vets Health Low on Bush’s Priority List,” The Hill, September 17, 2003; “Support for Troops Questioned,” Washington Post, June 17, 2003; U.S. Department of Veterans’ Affairs, September 2002)”

“D. Bush Administration proposal would end health care benefits for 173,000 veterans. More than 173,000 veterans across the country would be cut off from health care because of Bush Administration proposed budget cuts and its plan requiring enrollment fees and higher out-of-pocket costs. (”Support for Troops Questioned,” Washington Post, June 17, 2003)”

And scroll down below that to see what the Disabled American Veterans and the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America give our Senators for grades when it comes to caring for vets.

http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/chickenhawks.html

“When speaking to the Veterans of Foreign Wars in late August, Mr. Bush boasted that in his first four years as president he had increased VA spending by twice as much as Mr. Clinton had in eight years. What he didn’t mention was that the White House had to rush to fill an almost $3 billion VA funding shortfall that emerged over the summer.”

That shortfall wasn’t a surprise. Congressional Republicans refused to fully fund the VA that year. Democrats shamed and embarrassed them into resolving the budget cut during the summer, just a couple of months before the next fiscal year’s budget would have kicked in.

Once again, Righty, I know what I’m talking about. You, not so much.

mm

May 25th, 2012
2:05 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

May 25th, 2012
2:06 pm

Mighty Righty

May 25th, 2012
2:06 pm

I will admit it, I feel much better with Republicans setting educational policy in Washinton D.C. than with the liberal left doing the same. I am just uncomfortable with the idea of Marxists teaching our children about Capitalism. I can see the results of communist indoctrination of the left wing bloggers on this site. People who believe the peoples wealth belong to the government for redistribution by that government to that governments chosen people in the name of “fairness”. In reality that confiscation of wealth is for the sole purpose of buying votes and repaying favored political contributors. The current administration is the first and hopefully the last to campaign on the premise that capitalism must be destroyed. The excuse, straight from Karl Marx is “fairness”. Our public school system has to be over hauled to return this country to the “inalienable rights” of the individual.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 25th, 2012
2:06 pm

This is about as sick as government schools can get:

Headline (ABC) : “Trayvon Martin Day declared at D.C. elementary school”

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2012/05/trayvon-martin-day-declared-at-d-c-elementary-school-76327.html

davetv

May 25th, 2012
2:07 pm

What percent of “mostly” is false?

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

May 25th, 2012
2:10 pm

According to Adam you are not allowed to use Politifact because they are no longer trustworthy.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 25th, 2012
2:11 pm

Mick:

1) “Well, at least obama was promoting employment unlike romney gobbling up companies and shredding them for personal gain. Obama has gained nothing except your eternal ire – no matter what. He has kept us safe and got bin laden, don’t forget it.”

Please look up and report back the number of car dealerships that were FORCED to close under El Jeffe Obama and how many employees were put out of work ?

2) Remind me, what is romneys most significant accomplishment to date?

“Being the Republican presidential candidate poised to oust a sitting President who is out to destroy this Republic as we know it.”

Joe Hussein Mama

May 25th, 2012
2:12 pm

Righty — “I can see the results of communist indoctrination of the left wing bloggers on this site.”

Really? Where?

Fred ™

May 25th, 2012
2:12 pm

LOl Scout, look at the school that is holding Trayvon Day, Malcolm X (by any means necessary).

davetv

May 25th, 2012
2:12 pm

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801: OUCH! :-D

Shawny

May 25th, 2012
2:13 pm

Monday – bash republicans.
Tuesday – bash republicans.
Wednesday – bash republicans.

wash, rinse, repeat.

Fred ™

May 25th, 2012
2:13 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

May 25th, 2012
2:12 pm

Righty — “I can see the results of communist indoctrination of the left wing bloggers on this site.”

Really? Where?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

You must be REALLY bored today JHM lol. Why else would you address to mindless automaton.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 25th, 2012
2:14 pm

Hummmm ……………………. looks like Princess Summerfall Winterspring trampled on the promotional opportunities of more qualified applicants.

“US Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren has said she was unaware that Harvard Law School had been promoting her purported Native American heritage until she read about it in a newspaper several weeks ago.”

Adam

May 25th, 2012
2:15 pm

Like I’ve said for a while now: GOP wants to do what GOP wants to do with government. They want to borrow and spend on things they like, and cut things they don’t. They want to use the government to ban things they don’t like, enforce rules they like, and cut government out of anything that doesn’t fit that.

It’s not about jobs. It’s not about the deficit. It’s not about what’s best for education or health care. It’s about power. That’s what it has always been about for the GOP.

Mick

May 25th, 2012
2:16 pm

** a sitting President who is out to destroy this Republic as we know it**

Jesus, joseph, and mary, if you truly believe that, then I seriously feel sorry for you! Paranoia will destroy ya…

kitty

May 25th, 2012
2:16 pm

Mighty Righty, you do realize that right now the GOP may have the power in the House but the pendulum does swing back and forth so if education policy is set in DC then it could be Dems just as easy as the GOP. So isn’t totally local better than DC at all? I thought local control was the GOP mantra, states and all that. Apparently only when the GOP is not in control of things in DC. That is exactly the hypocrisy Jay is pointing out in this post. Sometimes I wonder if the right wingers are capable of critical thinking at all with those sorts of comments.

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

May 25th, 2012
2:16 pm

Mighty doesn’t recall the outrage from the left when the GOP tried to cut veteran benefits? Figures.

Adam (appointed rule enforcer by a few conservatives with no power)

May 25th, 2012
2:16 pm

According to Adam you are not allowed to use Politifact because they are no longer trustworthy.

That’s right. Follow the rules dammit :lol:

Thulsa Doom

May 25th, 2012
2:16 pm

Steve-USA,

“According to Adam….”

And then I quit reading.

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

May 25th, 2012
2:18 pm

until she read about it in a newspaper several weeks ago.

That’s at lest two months old….and she is doing just fine in the polls.

davetv

May 25th, 2012
2:18 pm

Elizabeth Warren, Eric Holder & Robert Mueller… All three only know things that happened a few weeks ago. They must have a rolling 2 week window of memory. Anything beyond 2 weeks leaves the old memory bank. There must be a name for that condition.

Finn McCool (The System Isn't Broken; It's Fixed ~ from an Occupy sign)

May 25th, 2012
2:19 pm

Mighty has gone hysterical….gonna be a looong weekend at the Mighty house.

Joe Hussein Mama

May 25th, 2012
2:20 pm

0311 — “Princess Summerfall Winterspring trampled”

“she was unaware”

Dude, you only posted two sentences and you STILL managed to contradict yourself. You must have the attention span of a sugar beet.

Adam

May 25th, 2012
2:20 pm

As for Politifact, it makes no difference what they think. If they came out the other way on this, it would be thrown up on every conservative website as “proof” despite, or perhaps because, it was a soft ball thrown to the right (like some of their other rulings). And now that they have affirmed it, more or less, the right calls it “the liberal media” (except when they agree) and ignores the facts (like always) in order to perpetuate their pre-existing position. Any facts, stories, or ANYTHING that says otherwise MUST be wrong. You simply CAN’T go against the grain at all, even if your position is based solidly in reality and the other side is in lala land.

Eubiful O'sheet

May 25th, 2012
2:20 pm

Virtually everyone (who is not a member of a teachers’ union) acknowledges that it has become virtually impossible and extremely expensive to fire any teacher – whether for classroom incompetence or moral turpitude – no matter how vile.
In every state hundreds, if not thousands of “teachers” who are deemed unsafe to be in contact with children report every day to “rubber rooms” where they spend the day doing nothing – but collecting a paycheck, (some of them for years) while the school system and the teachers’ union battle over their termination. i.e., APS still spending a million dollars/month to pay CRCT cheaters who can’t yet be fired. Love those union rules.
But…. What if….
ALL new teachers union contracts across the country stipulated that:
— for any teacher that the school system/board/parents/etc. want to terminate – due to poor classroom performance, groping children, etc. – the salary and benefits of that teacher will no longer be paid by the school system (taxpayers) but rather by the union – continuing at the same rate as before the termination proceedings commenced and until the teacher is finally exonerated and returned to the classroom – or is officially fired.
If the teacher is exonerated, the school system reimburses the teachers’ union all funds they have paid said teacher.
If the teacher is terminated for cause, the schools system (taxpayers) owe nothing.

See how long it takes to get incompetents and criminals off the payroll then….(can anyone say “nanoseconds”?)

davetv

May 25th, 2012
2:21 pm

Finn: she’s doing “fine” in the polls… a democrat in Massachusetts is doing “fine”??

Don Abernethy

May 25th, 2012
2:21 pm

As a Republican who wants to defeat Obama I do not see Romney as part of the right wing. He is a liberal like Obama. He bought the election and sadly I have no choice but to vote for him. NoBama.

Adam

May 25th, 2012
2:21 pm

Thulsa: And then I quit reading.

A likely story, seeing as you seem compelled to continue any conversation we have, asserting how right you are, even when you’ve been shown to be wrong.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 25th, 2012
2:21 pm

Hummmm ……………………

“President Obama took an apparent racial swipe at Colin Powell in a 1994 NPR interview in which he implied the four-star general is acceptable to “white America.”

RB from Gwinnett

May 25th, 2012
2:21 pm

Bro, “public sector employees have contributed an additional $75 B over the next 10 years for debt reduction while no other segment of this country has contributed one cent extra. ”

The only way public sector ee’s can contribute to debt reduction is to resign an get a job that generates tax revenue instead of consuming it.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

May 25th, 2012
2:22 pm

Adam – “That’s right. Follow the rules dammit”

See I do read what you say. :)

The 3 day weekend starts…….now! Thank you Vets and their families!

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

May 25th, 2012
2:23 pm

Joe Hussein Mama:

If you think she was “unaware”, I have some land in Florida I would like you to look at.

Mick:

With all my heart ………….. with all my heart !