More signs — still preliminary — that Iran’s ready to deal
For the moment, I’ll file this under “Believe it when I see it,” but it’s nonetheless encouraging:
“Iran and the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency are near agreement on a plan that could lift the veil on some of the Islamic Republic’s past nuclear research, U.N. officials said Tuesday in an announcement that raised hopes for a more comprehensive nuclear accord when Iranian officials meet with six world powers later in the week.
Yukiya Amano, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, said U.N. and Iranian officials settled most of their differences during talks Monday in the Iranian capital and were moving toward a formal pact on making Iran’s nuclear activities more transparent….
“We had expansive and intensive talks in a positive atmosphere,” Amano told Iranian television after the hastily arranged meeting in Tehran.
Iran’s chief nuclear negotiator, Saeed Jalili, also hailed what he described as “very good talks” with the IAEA leader. “God willing, we will have good cooperation in the future,” he added.”
In a separate line of negotiations, six major countries including the United States will meet with Iranian representatives beginning Wednesday to discuss a deal in which Iran would dismantle its nuclear infrastructure and surrender its stores of highly enriched uranium. In return, harsh economic sanctions against Iran would be lifted.
The odds of success in that negotiation would probably increase if the IAEA inspection deal is finalized, suggesting that Iran is finally willing to concede to international demands. In the past, however, Iran has repeatedly seemed to agree to deals only to back out of them later.
Will this time prove different? Perhaps so. Iran has never before faced economic sanctions so broad and so well-enforced internationally. It’s also pretty clear that if these negotiations fail, military intervention becomes a much more serious option, and that’s a route that nobody should be eager to travel.
Stay tuned. Success is far from guaranteed, but it’s at least worth the effort. As an old Iranian proverb puts it, “Trust in God — but tie your camel tight.”
– Jay Bookman
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454 comments Add your comment
Jm
May 22nd, 2012
4:47 pm
Too bad jay doesn’t apply his healthy Iranian skepticism to the democratic party as well
Joe Hussein Mama
May 22nd, 2012
4:47 pm
S. T. Are — “I have to ask this Jay, how am I supposed to fit my family into one of those electric cars, I have six in my family, including two in baby carseats?”
If we can go from a standing start to walking on the Moon in ten years, we ought to be able to put you and your family in a safe, reliable, efficient and comfortable electric car in the same amount of time. It all boils down to national will.
They BOTH suck
May 22nd, 2012
4:47 pm
Doom
Iran doesn’t produce 13%, but enough to potentially impact the price depending on what other oil producing countries do or do not do
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production
ByteMe
May 22nd, 2012
4:48 pm
Right before the Iraq war, gas in my neighborhood hit $0.99/gal.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
May 22nd, 2012
4:48 pm
Brosephus™
May 22nd, 2012
4:40 pm
Doom
Increasing deportations of criminal aliens has had a negative effect in the places they’ve been shipped off to
Who F’ing cares???
sure they are
May 22nd, 2012
4:48 pm
Bro, your answer is good enough, eventually we ought to find and use more than just oil…competition is good in that respect….more choices lead to better pricing….
Thulsa Doom
May 22nd, 2012
4:48 pm
They both suck,
I agree. I just call folks like Chavez a backlash against U.S. foreign policy- particularly our historic support for banana dictators in Latin America. Sometimes the backlash against our policy is big enough to produce a fool like Chavez- or Castro.
Jefferson
May 22nd, 2012
4:49 pm
Gas could be $6 and you would still buy it, maybe not as much but it would be sold.
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
4:49 pm
Invest in green energy and stop crying about oil for thirty years.
Solve the problem or stop whining about it.
Big oil does not need any welfare
They can’t even cut that welfare.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
May 22nd, 2012
4:50 pm
Thulsa Doom
May 22nd, 2012
4:46 pm
Jay
May 22nd, 2012
4:43 pm
Adjusted for inflation, the price of gasoline is about what it was during the early Reagan years.
How about the Carter years?
Brosephus™
May 22nd, 2012
4:51 pm
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
Who F’ing asked you???
Joe Hussein Mama
May 22nd, 2012
4:51 pm
F. P. Ayers — “They’re stealing a page from North Korea’s playbook. They’re stalling, they must be close to getting a nuke.”
FWIW, having a nuke isn’t much use unless they have a functional delivery system that can get it where they want it to go. And the raggedy-azz North Korean system probably has the Chinese going ‘dude, watch out where you POINT that thing.’ If the Norks tried to fire off that failure of a satellite launcher they’ve got with a nuclear warhead on top of it, the thing would probably land somewhere in the ocean and go POOF.
carlosgvv
May 22nd, 2012
4:51 pm
Why doesn’t Israel quietly send word to all Arab States that if Iran attacks them with nukes they will respond by nuking EVERY SINGLE Arab State and turn the entire Middle East into a nucelar wasteland? Seems to me most of the Arab States would put considerable pressure on Iran not to produce an atom bomb.
They BOTH suck
May 22nd, 2012
4:51 pm
Doom
Pretty decent gas prices and adjusted inflation chart
http://inflationdata.com/inflation/inflation_rate/gasoline_inflation.asp
Thulsa Doom
May 22nd, 2012
4:51 pm
They both suck,
They used to produce 13 or 17% I don’t remember which but I think it was actually the higher number. The reason i remember that stat is that when they were waging war Iran and Iraq respectively produced those 2 percentages of world output which equaled 30% of world output at that time. Since then of course I’m sure that through war, economic mismanagement and the degrading of facilities that both are producing substantially less. And that the rest of the world is likewise producing more.
josef
May 22nd, 2012
4:51 pm
Fresh Prince…
“Who F’ing cares???”
You should. Increased instability in Mexico and Central America does not bode well for us…does the term enlightened self-interest mean anything to you?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
May 22nd, 2012
4:52 pm
More of Thulsa trying to anger liberals by pretending to be very very dumb
Well, Thelma don’t have to pretend too hard. It’s sort of like the guy that can’t read pretending he can’t read, if you know what I mean.
Anyway, I say let’s get cozy with the Towelheads till they let their guard down. Then we turn the whole country into a pile of melted glass. We got all those troops over there. Might as well use them to turn that bunch of heathens into good Christians. Before you know it they’ll be cheating each other and stepping all over poor people and holding Tea Party rallies and packing heat in church.
Have a good Tuesday night everybody. Soon as this check-in is finished I’m heading home to Fox News and the Truth.
Joe Hussein Mama
May 22nd, 2012
4:52 pm
F. P. Ayers — “How about the Carter years?”
The lines and shortages took place during the Nixon Administration, not Carter’s term. The Arab Oil Embargo was in 1974.
They BOTH suck
May 22nd, 2012
4:53 pm
carlos
Why would Israel nuke every Arab and Muslim state or do you mean just the Arabs?
Not all ME countries are even that friendly with Iran.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
May 22nd, 2012
4:53 pm
I find it funny that liberals shout personal choices to problems but want someone else to pay to resolve them……and mandate it….
I find it funny that you don’t have the resolve to approach your employer, lay out a logical reason you need a raise, and ask for it. If they won’t pay you what you think you are worth, find someone who will or strike out on your own.
I don’t recall saying anything at all about mandating someone else to resolve your problem.
JKL2
May 22nd, 2012
4:53 pm
Iran will get rid of their nukes by detonating them over Israel. Anything else would be a failure to them. If they are agreeing to anything it is to stall for time or to relax our defenses so they can bring in some more parts/equipment.
G Mare 71( got the living' the red state BLUES!)
May 22nd, 2012
4:53 pm
Hi, Joseph, I think you got me mixed up with Granny G. This my first post on this topic.
Joe Hussein Mama
May 22nd, 2012
4:54 pm
Carlosgvv — “Why doesn’t Israel quietly send word to all Arab States that if Iran attacks them with nukes they will respond by nuking EVERY SINGLE Arab State and turn the entire Middle East into a nucelar wasteland?”
Israel’s longstanding policy has been to neither confirm or deny that they even HAVE the bomb. For many years, the best intel we had about Israeli nuclear research came from South Africa, who cooperated with Israel on nuclear research back in the 70s.
josef
May 22nd, 2012
4:55 pm
CARLOS
The Arab world would like nothing better than an Israeli “take out” on Iran. There’s no love lost between the Arabs and the Persians. It’s not Israel’s quiet message to them we need to be considering, but their quiet word to Washington to pass on the Israel…
Fred ™
May 22nd, 2012
4:55 pm
And the reason that the GOP will not win the White House back until 2024. If then…
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
No Jamvet. Arrogance such as in statements like that will win them an election faster. Arrogance such as Pelosi and Reid showed when they got a majority and rammed Obama care down the throats of the republicans while telling them to sit down and shut up their input wasn’t wanted or needed. Arrogance like that is what got us this current system where no Republican in the house will side with the democrats to get a bill through and the House will not even entertain a Democrat idea.
They BOTH suck
May 22nd, 2012
4:55 pm
TD
You could be right, but since that time Russia has really ramped up production as well as Brazil, Canada, Venezuela and Mexico
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
4:56 pm
jm,
The dems are on the attack and willard is running from his horrible jobs numbers.
Our President wins the number one issue of jobs.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
May 22nd, 2012
4:56 pm
josef
May 22nd, 2012
4:51 pm
Fresh Prince…
“Who F’ing cares???”
You should. Increased instability in Mexico and Central America does not bode well for us…does the term enlightened self-interest mean anything to you?
If the borders were manned and sealed it wouldn’t be that much of a problem. And if Eric “rat face” Holder hadn’t run guns to them it might be less of a problem, agree self proclaimed “enlightened one?”
josef
May 22nd, 2012
4:57 pm
G-MARE…
Ooops.. I did! But you know all you old ladies look alike…
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
May 22nd, 2012
4:58 pm
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
4:56 pm
jm,
The dems are on the attack and willard is running from his horrible jobs numbers.
Our President wins the number one issue of jobs
Not intended to be factual. There’s that tingly feeling in his leg
PJ
May 22nd, 2012
4:58 pm
sure they are @4:46 pm
Two wars, Med Part D, No Child Left Behind, Tax Cuts. All unfunded Con mandates and programs running into the billions of dollars and still counting. Oh yeah, those liberals…………. .
Thulsa Doom
May 22nd, 2012
4:58 pm
Brocephus,
Well yeah increasing deportation effected those countries disproportionately but that’s not really our fault. We just sent them back to the countries they came from.
Also this is how a lot of those gangs got started. The roots of some of those gangs were that the members were actually unemployed guerilla soldiers. There is nothing more dangerous than a newly unemployed guerilla fighter who has time on his hands and no job.
Take a look at history. After the ending of the Guatemalan and Salvadoran civil wars thousands of newly unemployed guerrilas resulted in a sharp rise in criminal activity in those countries. But their law is harsh and naturally some of them started migrating to the U.S. for criminal activity. So the idea that we exported crime to them is actually the reverse. It started with them exporting crime to us with a lot of aimless young men- often ex guerrillas without a job who had previously only known violence.
They BOTH suck
May 22nd, 2012
4:59 pm
“but their quiet word to Washington to pass on the Israel…”
BINGO
You get the gold star for the day. You and I have previously discussed this issue, but it seems most to not understand or agree.
ByteMe
May 22nd, 2012
4:59 pm
Why doesn’t Israel quietly send word to all Arab States that if Iran attacks them with nukes they will respond by nuking EVERY SINGLE Arab State and turn the entire Middle East into a nucelar wasteland
Pretty much every other Arab state is Sunni and Iran is Shia. The Arabs are not friends of the Persians.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
May 22nd, 2012
4:59 pm
Fred
No son, the ultimate arrogance is rewriting history….
sit down and shut up? really?
who’s idea was the mandate? uh?
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
4:59 pm
Fred,
The reason why health care passed was insurance costs were rising and onlt the wealthy could afford it. The health care system would collapse. That is not arrogance, that is reality.
Fred ™
May 22nd, 2012
4:59 pm
Granny G: Someone accused you of using an ALT earlier and I didn’t believe it. You weren’t posting as Becky were you?
josef
May 22nd, 2012
5:00 pm
FRESH PRINCE
Sounds like a good idea…except it doesn’t work that way…it’s not entirely a matter of control of out borders, but what instability in that part of the world does to our own economic and security interests there…
Brosephus™
May 22nd, 2012
5:00 pm
If the borders were manned and sealed it wouldn’t be that much of a problem.
25,000 Border Patrol Agents and 20,000 Customs and Border Protection Officers can’t do it. If you want manned and sealed borders, go to a communist country, because you’re not gonna get that AND maintain your freedom to move about here in the US if that’s what you’re after.
Thulsa Doom
May 22nd, 2012
5:01 pm
They both suck,
I agree with your statement. Its probably more of the fact that Russia in particular and some other countries you mentioned have significantly ramped up production. That and the degradation of their own facilities in Iran/Iraq to a lesser degree- war sure seemed to have dampered production in both countries.
They BOTH suck
May 22nd, 2012
5:01 pm
Fresh Prince
Thanks for coming on today. No need for anyone to run to any of the conservative talk shows or blogs. You are regurgitating the talking points in such a eloquent manner.
Thanks again for the public service
Fred ™
May 22nd, 2012
5:02 pm
Getalife and Granny: Rewriting history? YOU are rewriting history if you are saying that after Obama was elected and the Democrats had the House and 60 Senators that they DIDN’T tell the Republicans to sit down and shut up while they passed Obama care then you are delusional. There was ZERO Republican input in that bill which is why the Republicans are so rabid about it.
Please don’t demean yourselves and try to make up something……….
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
May 22nd, 2012
5:02 pm
If the borders were manned and sealed it wouldn’t be that much of a problem.
If we hadn’t spent all that money in Iraq, maybe we could’ve focused on the borders.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Nah, if that kinda government money was available you silly cons would be all about tax cuts.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
May 22nd, 2012
5:03 pm
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
4:59 pm
Fred,
The reason why health care passed was insurance costs were rising and onlt the wealthy could afford it. The health care system would collapse. That is not arrogance, that is reality
So educate yourself, get a better paying job or work 2 jobs if you feel the need to have health insurance. Unless you are in abject poverty or on government assistance,you will not like the price tag out of your paycheck. Someone has to pay for the free-loaders.
That Black Guy
May 22nd, 2012
5:03 pm
Jay
May 22nd, 2012
4:17 pm
As for gas prices they are slowly dropping but are still well above the $1.81 they were when Obama came into office. When gas drops to $1.81 you may then crow loudly.
More of Thulsa trying to anger liberals by pretending to be very very dumb.
_______________________________________________________________________
But someone insinuating that Obama has anything to do with the recent drop in gas prices, well, that’s not dumb at all, right Jay?
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
5:03 pm
princess,
bain fired American for profit to destroy families and communities.
willard ranked 47th on jobs when he was governor.
Horrible job numbers and facts you ignore..
Mighty Righty
May 22nd, 2012
5:04 pm
Amazingly, there are people who think Iran agreeing to talk is a “new” break through. It is not. Actually Iran has been talking since at least 2003 with the European Union and the United Nations. They have been allowing IAEA inspectors in their country as well. All prior agreements have been changed, lied about and ignored by Iran. This newest ploy is nothing different from many past delaying tactics by the Iranian government. They stall and we agree to the stall. Hopefully, this time it will be different. But, there is nothing in the history of our present administration to make one think this time will be different. I believe their sudden interest in re-opening discussions is not the result of any U.S. initiative or sanctions, it is more than likely their interest is stimulated by Israel’s tough position.
Joe Hussein Mama
May 22nd, 2012
5:04 pm
F. P. Ayers — “If the borders were manned and sealed it wouldn’t be that much of a problem.”
We’ve got what, like eight or nine thousand miles of land border with Mexico and Canada? But you’re talking about it like it would be a simple matter.
I’m pretty sure the Border Patrol would have trouble recruiting guys to stand guard on our borders with the Yukon and the Northwest Territories of Canada.
Brosephus™
May 22nd, 2012
5:04 pm
Doom
The only group I know that has a verified tie in with military origins would be the Los Zetas in Mexico. They were Mexican Special Forces if I remember correctly (had to do a bit of crash studying on gangs). You may be partially correct in some of the origins, but I don’t think many of the founders of most Latin gangs would have been old enough and/or seasoned enough from a military standpoint for that to be a factor in their origins.
Believe it or not, the US military has had an unwitting hand in training gang members in military-styled warfare techniques too.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
May 22nd, 2012
5:05 pm
Nah, if that kinda government money was available you silly cons would be all about tax cuts
And the Dem’s would pi$$ it away on green energy and refunding money to investors that Corzine screwed.
They BOTH suck
May 22nd, 2012
5:05 pm
TBG
I’m not Jay, but it would be dumb.
Did you see my reply to your 4:30 downstairs?
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
5:05 pm
princess,
Your party loves welfare for people that need no help and making record profits.
Your lies do not work on this blog princess.
That Black Guy
May 22nd, 2012
5:09 pm
JamVet
May 22nd, 2012
4:02 pm
Predictably, the rabid right wingers hate this news.
_______________________________________________
Jam, who would that be?
Anyone on this blog?
They BOTH suck
May 22nd, 2012
5:09 pm
Bro @ 5:04
Not sure what they call it now because it was renamed after much negative PR, but the School of America’s in Fort Benning, Ga has trained some of the best assassins that Latin America has ever known. Anyone that thinks that some of these guys haven’t left the military or could still be in and are not training narco gangs are not living in the real world
Thulsa Doom
May 22nd, 2012
5:09 pm
“More of Thulsa trying to anger liberals by pretending to be very very dumb.”
And that’s just more of you trying to get a rise out of me Jay. Much to your discredit.
I’ve been posting today since around 12:30 or 1 pm today and I challenge you to go back and find a post where I’ve been rude or have baited or tried to anger liberals with my posts. If you can find one post where I’ve exhibited rudeness or tried to “get a rise” out of people then show it to me.
If you can find just one then you won’t even need to ban me. I will go ahead and permanently ban myself from your site.
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
5:10 pm
Some will fail but some will provide jobs.
Enough with big oil welfare.
It is irresponsible.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
May 22nd, 2012
5:11 pm
And the Dem’s would pi$$ it away on green energy and refunding money to investors that Corzine screwed.
As I recall, we did have a projected budget surplus in 2000. Now remind me again, which candidate wanted to save for a rainy day and which candidate promised tax cuts?
carlosgvv
May 22nd, 2012
5:11 pm
They, Joe, Joseph
My post isn’t that hard to understand. The idea is that Israel QUIETLY inform the Middle East
ARAB states that if they (Israel) go, they will nuke all the Arab States.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
May 22nd, 2012
5:12 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
May 22nd, 2012
5:04 pm
F. P. Ayers — “If the borders were manned and sealed it wouldn’t be that much of a problem.”
Ok, force the states that give them driver’s licenses to stop. Dis-allow banks, check cashing services and money transfer companies from doing business with them. Force hospitals to not deal with anyone without a to date verifiable visa or social security card. Audit high illegal employers like companies that deal with construction and hispanic restaurants for their employees paperwork and bank records… You get the idea?
Jm
May 22nd, 2012
5:12 pm
Getalife 4:56 um, wrong. Whatever
Romney polls far better on jobs than Obama
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
May 22nd, 2012
5:13 pm
As I recall, we did have a projected budget surplus in 2000. Now remind me again, which candidate wanted to save for a rainy day and which candidate promised tax cuts?
Can we talk about Obama’s budget? BwaaaHaaaaBwaaaaHaaaa
They BOTH suck
May 22nd, 2012
5:13 pm
carlos
It isn’t about understanding your post. It is about something that isn’t going to occur and really doesn’t make as much sense as you seem to think it does.
Your opinion. I get that, but it isn’t going to happen
Fred ™
May 22nd, 2012
5:14 pm
Doomy? Been watching the History channel (or whatever channel has those gang things on lol)?
I saw that same episode. The El Salvadoran dudes used the machetes. Then like Brocephus said, there were the Mexican Spec Ops dudes. There are a ton of Latin American gangs here but there is a difference. Unlike THEIR backwoods countries, we have folks like Brocephus who WILL put a whooping on that ass.
They ARE NOT going to go around terrorizing the populace, killing judges and Congressfolks and such like they do in their own Countries. We WILL stop it here.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
May 22nd, 2012
5:14 pm
As I recall, we did have a projected budget surplus in 2000. Now remind me again, which candidate wanted to save for a rainy day and which candidate promised tax cuts?
You can thank Newt for that.
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
5:14 pm
This is a election for Americans that don’t ignore facts, the collapse and the last gop disaster called w.
cons ignore these facts and they don’t matter.
They can’t win on lies and just the con vote.
Jay
May 22nd, 2012
5:14 pm
Thulsa I did not imply in any way that you had been in any way rude or insulting.
My point was — and feel free to correct me if I’m wrong — that you are too intelligent to TRULY believe that $1.80 gasoline was anything but a very temporary aberration caused by a global economic collapse.
Again, maybe I was wrong in that assessment.
josef
May 22nd, 2012
5:15 pm
carlos
I don’t think there’s any need to “quietly inform” the Middle East of what Israel (under the auspices of the United States) would do if attacked. Israel has made it clear on any number of occasions…
Sarah Gee
May 22nd, 2012
5:15 pm
I hope Iran is ready to negotiate. Obama has made it a requirement for his crediblity that Iran not have a nuclear weapon. After his rhetroic, his crediblity woudl be utterly shot if Iran is allowed to go nuclear. Unfortunately for Israel, his history is not great.
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
5:16 pm
jm,
You know the only poll that matters is in November.
Four more years!
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
May 22nd, 2012
5:16 pm
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
5:14 pm
This is a election for Americans that don’t ignore facts, the collapse and the last gop disaster called w.
cons ignore these facts and they don’t matter.
They can’t win on lies and just the con vote.
Help me Obamawankenobi help me. You’re my only hope….
Fred ™
May 22nd, 2012
5:16 pm
If you can find just one then you won’t even need to ban me. I will go ahead and permanently ban myself from your site.
WTF? You and I BOTH on the same day trying to be polite? Ya reckon it’s the blood ring around the moon with that weird eclipse or something? I mean normal folks get all rabid and sht but us rabid folks are becoming docile?
Joe Hussein Mama
May 22nd, 2012
5:16 pm
Carlosgvv — “My post isn’t that hard to understand. The idea is that Israel QUIETLY inform the Middle East ARAB states that if they (Israel) go, they will nuke all the Arab States.”
I understood your post just fine. The Israelis apparently prefer to keep everyone guessing about the size of their nuclear package, so to speak.
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
5:17 pm
doomy ignores the collapse and is a Bama fan.
G Mare 71( got the living' the red state BLUES!)
May 22nd, 2012
5:18 pm
Fresh Prince, thank Newt, really???
Joe Hussein Mama
May 22nd, 2012
5:18 pm
F. P. Ayers — “Ok, force the states that give them driver’s licenses to stop. Dis-allow banks, check cashing services and money transfer companies from doing business with them. Force hospitals to not deal with anyone without a to date verifiable visa or social security card. Audit high illegal employers like companies that deal with construction and hispanic restaurants for their employees paperwork and bank records… You get the idea?”
I get your idea, but isn’t it more than a little OT?
I don’t have a problem discussing the topic with you, but how did you get on it from the OP, exactly?
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
5:18 pm
“Help me Obamawankenobi help me. You’re my only hope….”
If you can’t debate better than that, blogging is not for you con.
Jm
May 22nd, 2012
5:18 pm
Getalife 5:16 that first part is true
Its anything but a cake walk for Romney
But he has several things in his favor for winning
Fred ™
May 22nd, 2012
5:19 pm
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
May 22nd, 2012
5:12 pm
Audit high illegal employers like companies that deal with construction and hispanic restaurants for their employees paperwork and bank records… You get the idea?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
No, I don’t. how about audit the BANKS who employ the illegal Indians and Canadians. What about all those f’ing illegal Chinese? What is wrong with you people? How has a Hispanic face become the face of the “illegals?”
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
5:19 pm
I do like what the newt and perry said about bain.
Did you cons see the ad?
Fatal flaw indeed.
JamVet
May 22nd, 2012
5:20 pm
“or work 2 jobs”
What a lazy POS.
Just two?
Your beloved Boy Emperor thought it was great that in America you could work three jobs.
And you wonder why millions of people around the globe think you neocons are batshiite crazy…
That Black Guy
May 22nd, 2012
5:21 pm
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
May 22nd, 2012
4:48 pm
Brosephus™
May 22nd, 2012
4:40 pm
Doom
Increasing deportations of criminal aliens has had a negative effect in the places they’ve been shipped off to
Who F’ing cares???
________________________________________________
You should.
Why?
Because they COME BACK, meaner, more experienced, and with friends. To a neighborhood near you.
Thulsa Doom
May 22nd, 2012
5:21 pm
“But someone insinuating that Obama has anything to do with the recent drop in gas prices, well, that’s not dumb at all, right Jay?”
That black guy,
Thanks much. That’s a pretty obvious point that I didn’t even think about. Neither did Jay in his zeal to criticize me.
josef
May 22nd, 2012
5:22 pm
PJ
Just so we keep the record straight, that NCLB abomination was bi-partisan…
Joe Hussein Mama
May 22nd, 2012
5:22 pm
Fred — “What is wrong with you people? How has a Hispanic face become the face of the “illegals?”
I’ve said it here before (and I’m sure Brosephus remembers), but it bears saying again.
My wife is Hispanic. Born in the US to American parents, but dark hair, dark skin, brown eyes and all that. Speaks English like she was born here, because she was. The only accent she’s got is a bit of West Coast California girl.
My friend’s wife is British. Blond, blue eyes and ‘ere now, wot’s oll this then?’
Guess which one gets pulled out of line at the airport? The born-here one or the obvious foreigner?
They BOTH suck
May 22nd, 2012
5:23 pm
TD
Look at it this way. If JB doesn’t acknowledge you and even chastise you then he probably doesn’t love you……
Feel the LOVE……………….
josef
May 22nd, 2012
5:24 pm
FRED
Remember the South Asian commedian-commentator on Jon Stewart…there’s parking attendant Brown and systems engineer Brown…
barking frog
May 22nd, 2012
5:24 pm
getalife
Jm says Willard is winning.
Fred ™
May 22nd, 2012
5:25 pm
“Guess which one gets pulled out of line at the airport? The born-here one or the obvious foreigner?”
It’s all in how you phrase the question. Let me p[hrase it to YOU in a different way and see how YOU answer………………
Guess which one gets pulled out of line at the airport? The hot dark haired exotic looking chick or the bleached blond ugly chick?
Jm
May 22nd, 2012
5:26 pm
Frog
Stop talking to yourself
josef
May 22nd, 2012
5:26 pm
“Guess which one gets pulled out of line at the airport? The born-here one or the obvious foreigner?”
Yep.
Thulsa Doom
May 22nd, 2012
5:27 pm
“you may be partially correct in some of the origins, but I don’t think many of the founders of most Latin gangs would have been old enough and/or seasoned enough from a military standpoint for that to be a factor in their origins.”
You’re right. I’m only partially correct on that. But keep in mind that what I’m also saying is that a lot of young, aimless men who would have up and joined the guerillas and been prime recruits for them during those guerilla years then opted instead for a life of crime instead when there were no guerrilla armies operating. Strange as it seems a guerilla army is also a source of employment.
“Believe it or not, the US military has had an unwitting hand in training gang members in military-styled warfare techniques too.”
Good point. Doesn’t surprise me in the least. I do know of several cases where gang members joined the military, got their training, and then brought it back with them to the streets.
Joe Hussein Mama
May 22nd, 2012
5:27 pm
Fred — “Guess which one gets pulled out of line at the airport? The hot dark haired exotic looking chick or the bleached blond ugly chick?”
To be fair, my friend’s wife is quite easy on the eyes, but her voice has got a decidedly fingernails + chalkboard quality to it.
jm
May 22nd, 2012
5:28 pm
oops
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/05/22/obamas-war-on-coal-hits-your-electric-bill/print#ixzz1vdALNXOI
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
5:28 pm
jm,
Fair enough but willard can’t run from questions.
“The attack on free enterprise” will not cut it on bain.
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
5:29 pm
frog,
Polls show it is even but they had mccain up by 10.
Joe Hussein Mama
May 22nd, 2012
5:30 pm
jm — Someone tell Fox to get with the program. Just last week, the GOP line was that it was unconscionable to politicize things by calling them ‘wars.’ (laughing)
Fred ™
May 22nd, 2012
5:30 pm
“Remember the South Asian commedian-commentator on Jon Stewart…there’s parking attendant Brown and systems engineer Brown…”
LOl josef, nope. Never watched the show. But I can see from what you wrote where the joke goes.
What is that other phrase? Steal a little and they call you a thief steal a lot and they make you a king…………….
That phrase is in this tune I’m linking. Listen to it, One of the best mellow guitar solo’s I’ve ever heard. To me it’s as good as Hendrix’s in “The Wind Cries Mary.” It’s a Dylan tune and he’s singing, but he’s actually palatable in this one. I’m gonna split for the evening. I was waiting for an answer from Granny but she obviously split.
Ya’ll have a great evening. Oh and Josef? What’s a sweetheart like you doing in a place like this? ROFL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpRKstHl7Y0
josef
May 22nd, 2012
5:31 pm
FRED
I’ve told this one before, but…
One evening we were passing the time of day on the street with one of our Latina neighbors, a blonde blue-eyed woman. She and I were speaking Spanish. We were talking about some recent INS raids in the area. Unmentionable, who doesn’t speak it but does understand it, told us “speak English! They’ll haul me in. I’m criminally swarthy.”
That Black Guy
May 22nd, 2012
5:31 pm
getalife
May 22nd, 2012
4:59 pm
Fred,
The reason why health care passed was insurance costs were rising and onlt the wealthy could afford it.
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I’m not wealthy and i could afford it.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
May 22nd, 2012
5:32 pm
Audit high illegal employers like companies that deal with construction and hispanic restaurants for their employees paperwork and bank records… You get the idea?
Too funny!
I got “the idea” 26 years ago after St. Ronnie of the RayGun’s 1986 amnesty, sport. You seem to be whining about the open gate long after the fact.