Weird news of the day: Top Ga. Republicans back major tax hike
Gov. Nathan Deal, a Republican, is campaigning around the state for passage of the regional transportation tax. He is also helping to raise private contributions to fund voter outreach in support of the plan.
And he’s not alone.
Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle, also a Republican, has hit the speaking circuit as well, warning that the state cannot simply cut its way to prosperity but instead must be willing to invest in itself in order to grow. Passage of the TSPLOST, he says, is critical to that growth.
U.S. Sens. Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson, also Republicans, have also expressed public support for passage of the TSPLOST, which if approved by voters in July will impose a one-penny sales tax for 10 years to build transportation infrastructure.
Think about that: The four most high-profile Republican officeholders in Georgia — all four of whom have signed the infamous pledge to oppose “any and all efforts to increase taxes” — have expressed public support for a tax hike. In the case of Deal and Cagle, they are out there actively campaigning on its behalf.
And of course, it’s not just any tax hike. If approved by voters in the 10-county metro Atlanta region and by voters in the other 11 regions across the state, it would become the largest single tax hike ever enacted in Georgia. Yet GOP leaders are still supporting it.
That level of support is pretty amazing, given that the current Republican Party is not exactly forgiving to those it considers heretics on tax issues. To the degree it suggests a unified position among Georgia Republicans, it’s also misleading. A good number of lower-profile Republicans oppose passage of the regional TSPLOSTS, including some — such as Senate Majority Leader Chip Rogers — who initially voted in favor of putting the question to voters.
So why are top Republicans endorsing the proposal despite the risk it might pose to their political futures?
In part, it’s because opposing passage of the TSPLOST brings risks of its own. While Tea Party Republicans oppose the measure, the state’s business community is strongly supportive, and they’re the folks who help finance statewide political campaigns.
The cynics among us would point out that the business community supports the TSPLOST because they stand to make money off it, and those cynics have a very good point. For example, approval of the tax would create a decade-long stream of work for the construction and asphalt-pouring industries, which are naturally contributing to campaigns to pass the measure.
However, business support for the measure is much deeper and broader than that, and for good reason. Every business in the state relies on transportation infrastructure to facilitate the movement of its workforce and customers and in many cases its raw material and finished product. They know that public investments by previous generations have created the infrastructure that they rely upon on a daily basis, and they also realize that in recent years that infrastructure has been badly underfunded.
Without a fresh infusion of capital, Georgia’s transportation infrastructure will no longer be competitive in a global economy. This week, with the opening of a new international terminal at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport, the region got another reminder of the importance of such links, and of the leadership required to create them.
– Jay Bookman
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(ir)Rational
May 18th, 2012
2:05 pm
getalife – What?
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
May 18th, 2012
2:05 pm
“Slam dunk, he will have a bad time in prison.”
Hes gonna wish he was still Big and FAT.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
May 18th, 2012
2:05 pm
At that point he was in a defensive posture.
Nope.
Zimmerman lost the “defensive posture” argument when he initially began hunting Trayvon with a weapon. His own actions put him on the offensive.
That Black Guy
May 18th, 2012
2:06 pm
Well, I guess ” if Romney” is proof that Jay’s rule about spamming his blog has been suspended.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
May 18th, 2012
2:07 pm
“Go back and check the votes to start the Iraq war. You’ll be surprised just who raised their hand and VOTED FOR IT. Many short memories here.”
Yes sir…especially about the part where they we blatantly lied to…
(ir)Rational
May 18th, 2012
2:07 pm
TBG – I would say there are a couple of posters here today that are in violation of that rule.
if Romney believes the government doesnt create wealth why does he want the top government job
May 18th, 2012
2:07 pm
why is it that the people who are glad that this 17 year old black boy who was minding his business was stalked and killed vote republican? they seem to get some joy out of this tragedy
rightwing troll
May 18th, 2012
2:08 pm
http://www.ajc.com/news/cobb/cobb-school-board-cant-1440237.html
Why is it always teaching positions getting axed? Why not administration?
I drive by the elementary school cited in this article everyday, this last year they built an entirely new school… but they have to fire 350 teachers… I thought wingnuts were job creators?
Thulsa Doom
May 18th, 2012
2:08 pm
” I would cut defense spending and funnel guaranteed money back into the system”
Normal,
Allright. We actually do have some common ground. I would agree wholly on that. I’m of the opinion that we need to cut defense anywhere from 10-15% and possibly as deep as 20%. I just think it has to be done over several years so as not to shock the economy. Same with other cuts. I’m in agreement with you on using proceeds to shore up SS and Medicare. Personally I am sick and tired of 36 bases in Germany and other enormous military expenditures. The Germans and others need to start providing for their own damn defense.
As for making Medicare more like the prescription part D plan I would be all for it. I know that you and others see it as making insurance companies rich but I can assure you the margins are very small. On top of that the Part d drug plan is the only health care initiative that govt has come up with that has not only come in under budget but substantially under budget. It works very well relative to other programs.
Anyway we may still disagree on some things but that’s cool. At least we found some common ground on needed cuts.
getalife
May 18th, 2012
2:09 pm
Weed stays in your system for thirty days.
Weed does not mke you violent, it makes you hungry for skittles and tea.
zimm took prescribed drugs for anxiety that does make you violent.
Obama is over
May 18th, 2012
2:09 pm
Bernie Marcus wrote an op-ed piece in Investors Business Daily this week where he said that Home Depot would never have been able to succeed as a new company under the Obama administration. He said:”Over the past three years Washington has issued more than 10,000 rules that impose an estimated $16 B in new costs. Small businesses , who often lack the teams of lawyers or compliance officers to sort through everything they’re required to do, are suffering disproportionately.” Yet the conversation continually devolves to social issues like abortion, gay rights, birth certificates, and dogs. I doubt very seriously that Romney will spend much time on the birther debate, just as I doubt that Obama will ever have anything meaningful to contribute about how to grow the economy. The past four years have proven that he is clueless on how to help small business and simply out of his league.
rightwing troll
May 18th, 2012
2:10 pm
Zim might walk, and if so the law was followed and he got a fair trial.
All I ever asked for was a fair shake for the boy who was stalked and killed.
getalife
May 18th, 2012
2:10 pm
ir,
Read about the new papers filed.
They got him.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
May 18th, 2012
2:10 pm
“According to Zimm Trayvon had gone behind another building and Zimm was on his way back to his truck when T came around another side and jumped him.”
I think, that without a witness that would have to be classified as unprovable. I think the Judge would instruct the jury as such.
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
May 18th, 2012
2:11 pm
Testimony from Martins GF will seal his fate especially since she was on the phone with him, when he was confronted.
DeeDee said Martin turned around and asked Zimmerman why he was following him. “The man said what are you doing around here?” DeeDee recalled Zimmerman saying.
Jm
May 18th, 2012
2:11 pm
Obama is a PAC whore
if Romney believes the government doesnt create wealth why does he want the top government job
May 18th, 2012
2:12 pm
@obama is over
BERNIE MARCUS IS TELLING a d@mn lie
getalife
May 18th, 2012
2:13 pm
odrama,
That is rw garbage.
The regulations report is not done yet.
He wants to cut needless regulations and cut taxes on small business but your party said no.
rightwing troll
May 18th, 2012
2:13 pm
“Obama is a PAC whore”
Gotta play the game by the rules set forth, it wouldn’t be prudent to not…
Thulsa Doom
May 18th, 2012
2:13 pm
“Zimmerman lost the “defensive posture” argument when he initially began hunting Trayvon with a weapon. His own actions put him on the offensive.”
Nope. Not if he gave up the chase and had already retreated. And stating that he was “hunting Trayvon with a weapon” is bit too much of your typical mind reading and hyperbole. Not unexpected of you though.
In any event just a damn terrible tragedy for the Martin family and for the young man who unnecessarily lost his life but we’ll just have to let the court system work its way through.
if Romney believes the government doesnt create wealth why does he want the top government job
May 18th, 2012
2:13 pm
@jm2:11
as opposed to youre mom?
Doggone/GA
May 18th, 2012
2:14 pm
“Well, I guess ” if Romney” is proof that Jay’s rule about spamming his blog has been suspended”
Nope, it only proves that Jay is not currently monitoring his blog.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
May 18th, 2012
2:14 pm
Thulsa Doom
May 18th, 2012
2:08 pm
If only Congress would talk to each other like we do…great things would happen!
rightwing troll
May 18th, 2012
2:14 pm
Even if Zimm walks, life as he knew it is over by his own hand…
Adam
May 18th, 2012
2:15 pm
Thulsa: Seems you just don’t like having your own childish crap about “Bush is no longer president” thrown back in your face
Good lord. The fact that you can’t recognize that that is what I did to YOU by making the comment in the first place is what is most telling here.
Also that whole thing on my description of a morally bankrupt business practice reads like “He called my company a NAME! I’ll show him! I’ll give it a DIFFERENT NAME!” It doesn’t matetr what you call it. I stand by my description, and it is DEFINITELY what Bain has done on a number of occasions.
Adam
May 18th, 2012
2:15 pm
TBG: How does someone end up on the “IGNORE” list?
“Why do teabagggging kooks”
Sort of, yeah
Doggone/GA
May 18th, 2012
2:15 pm
“Weed stays in your system for thirty days”
The active ingredient can remain in your system for up to 90 days
Tealiban Party
May 18th, 2012
2:16 pm
godless heathen
May 18th, 2012
9:04 am
What I like the most is that hurricane evacuation system they installed on I-16 about 15 years ago that has never been used.
Are you upset or relieved that a hurricane evacuation hasn’t been necessary lately? Hard to tell.
getalife
May 18th, 2012
2:16 pm
Joe,
One of the skinheads will make him his boyfriend and they will protect him if they can.
curious
May 18th, 2012
2:16 pm
From an inside source:
Trayvon was approached by Zimm and when Zimm flashed his weapon, Trayvon, figuring he was about to get shot, decided to fight for his life.
It’s always good when the other party is dead and no one else saw the event from start to end.
Why didn’t Zimm follow the dispatchers advice?
Recon 0311 2533
May 18th, 2012
2:17 pm
getalife,
Now that you now know who the Blackstone Group is and what they do I’ll help once again to bring you up to speed a bit further. You see the Obama campaign ran an ad criticizing Romney for his association with Bain Capital a private equity firm like Blackstone. The ad had misinformation within the content that even had some Democrats criticizing the Obama campaign for running it. The very next day after the ad ran, Hamilton James the CEO of Blackstone threw a huge fund raising dinner event for Obama, while the left was running around calling Bain and Romney vulture capitalists. Can you see the hypocrisy? probably not.
Adam
May 18th, 2012
2:17 pm
(ir)Rational: TBG – I would say there are a couple of posters here today that are in violation of that rule.
Did someone say “rule”?
(I am j/k)
Jm
May 18th, 2012
2:17 pm
“Weed does not mke you violen”
Testosterone does and trayvon OD’d on it
Thulsa Doom
May 18th, 2012
2:18 pm
Normal,
Someone familiar with Florida law on here had posited that since t is dead that as a rule that we have to take z’s testimony at face value unless it can be absolutely proven by the prosecution that he is lying or wrong. Bottom line is that is a very high bar for the prosecution to disprove zimm’s version of events. That’s where I think Zimm looks to be in a good position legally. Going to be really hard for the prosecution to prove murder. Manslaughter perhaps but murder looks like they set a pretty high bar to prove.
(ir)Rational
May 18th, 2012
2:18 pm
Adam – Kidding or not, I still don’t know what you mean.
getalife – Okay.
Jm
May 18th, 2012
2:19 pm
Bernie Marcus had no agenda
Speaks the truth
Obama sux
(ir)Rational
May 18th, 2012
2:20 pm
Jm – Really? You know that for a fact? So are you a MD now also in addition to being a financial whiz?
getalife
May 18th, 2012
2:20 pm
Doogone,
“heavy smokers have reported positive tests 90 days after quitting”
Correct. Most are heavy smokers, my bad.
They BOTH suck
May 18th, 2012
2:21 pm
getalife
I do not think Recon was saying that one side should get unlimited funds and the other should not. I believe he was pointing out the hypocrisy of Obama to call out the 1%ers, yet take money from the 1%ers.
I could go on and on about Romney’s hypocrisies and flip flops, whether Recon would acknowledge them is beside the point that he was making.
On that issue, he has a valid point.
What he Said
May 18th, 2012
2:21 pm
Okay, Zimmerman had some actual injuries. However, I can’t help but remember his family’s claim that his head was repeatedly slammed into the sidewalk, for over a minute, and that Zimmerman was beaten until he was nearly unconscious (but still had the wherewithal to grab his gun and shoot). Yet, his injuries did not warrant a trip to the hospital. Sending an injured party to the hospital, as a precautionary measure, is pretty routine. Certainly, having one’s head repeatedly slammed into a concrete sidewalk would necessitate a trip to the ER. Yet Zimmerman’s injuries were so superficial that he was treated by EMS in the back of a police car. Something is still not adding up in my head.
Secondly, Zimmerman’s injuries do not prove who initiated the physical altercation. If Zimmerman had accosted Trayvon, the teen would have cause to defend himself. A person is not allowed to start a fight with someone, find himself on the losing end, kill his opponent and then claim self defense.
Lastly, with regards to Zimmerman’s motives, let’s not forget that he had a history of calling 911 (50 times within a year, if I recall correctly). That type of hyper-vigilant behavior speaks volumes about his character, and perhaps about his frame of mind on the night in question. Furthermore, let’s remember that he said, “These a**holes always get away,” implying that he was not going to let yet another one get away. The 911 call is pretty damning.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
May 18th, 2012
2:22 pm
Not if he gave up the chase and had already retreated.
Testimony from Martins GF will seal his fate especially since she was on the phone with him, when he was confronted.
Hmmmmm, seems that Zimmerman hadn’t given up the chase after all.
B
O
O
M
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getalife
May 18th, 2012
2:22 pm
del,
Do you really want to talk about hypocrisy.
.
Seriously?
Mighty Righty
May 18th, 2012
2:22 pm
When Bain Capital invested in Steel Dynamics they found a site in DeKalb County Indiana. They then asked for a tax break to locate their plant there. The tax break, probably a property tax break caused Steel Dynamics to spend 375 million dollars building the plant in DeKalb County that ultimately employed 6000 workers who pay local and state taxes and spend teir pay checks in the area. This was and is an economic boon to DeKalb County Indiana. Had the Bain invested company not been given those tax breaks, that investment and those jobs would now be somewhere else and DeKalb, County Indiana would not be collecting much property tax on the cavant property.. What the left calls corporate welefare, the right calls economic progress and what the left calls a tax give away the local politicians call tax revenue.
Doggone/GA
May 18th, 2012
2:22 pm
“heavy smokers have reported positive tests 90 days after quitting”
On the report I heard yesterday, they said that trace levels can be detected for up to 90 days…and that is what the autopsy report said was found…trace levels.
Adam
May 18th, 2012
2:22 pm
(ir)Rational: Probably best that you don’t know
I’m trying not to bring up that old fight as a point of contention.
Thulsa Doom
May 18th, 2012
2:24 pm
“It doesn’t matetr what you call it. I stand by my description, and it is DEFINITELY what Bain has done on a number of occasions.”
Adam,
I’m sorry but your description of bain capital as a “vulture capitalist” is simply wrong as I’ve shown you. What a vulture capitalist does vs what a venture capitalist or private equity firm does is completely different things. You just don’t have enough business acumen to understand the difference. Nor do you have the humility to accept when you’re simply wrong. You just double down and dig the hole even deeper. Can you provide a link where Bain capital has done on numerous occassions exactly what vulture capitalists do?
(ir)Rational
May 18th, 2012
2:25 pm
Adam – Okay. Whatever you say boss.
getalife
May 18th, 2012
2:26 pm
“Police: Trayvon Martin’s death ‘ultimately avoidable’”
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/17/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html
Slam dunk.
Steve
May 18th, 2012
2:26 pm
Zimmerman is going to be found guilty of at least manslaughter, as HE pursued Trayvon and shot at close range. I might jump someone and smash them to the ground, too, if I was being pursued for buying skittles and iced tea.
stands for decibels
May 18th, 2012
2:26 pm
Bernie Marcus had no agenda
Here’s a blast from Bernie “no agenda” Marcus’ past:
“This is the demise of a civilization,” moaned Bernie Marcus, cofounder and former CEO of The Home Depot, during an Oct. 17 conference call about card check. “This is how a civilization disappears. I’m sitting here as an elder statesman, and I’m watching this happen, and I don’t believe it.”
Mr. Marcus sketched out the doomsday scenario for his listeners, with unions going after what he called the “low hanging fruit” and proceeding to organize workers in industry after industry. He had taken it upon himself to notify the nation’s CEOs of the danger, but they were not yet grabbing their guns. “This is as important as anything that’s ever happened to these companies. And they’re not reacting, and they’re not fighting. The old time fighters are gone.”
But in the class war, as in the real deal, there are always ways of motivating the yellow. “If a retailer has not gotten involved with this, if he has not spent money on this election, if he has not sent money to Norm Coleman and these other guys,” Mr. Marcus said, apparently referring to Republican senators facing tough re-election fights, then those retailers “should be shot; should be thrown out of their goddamn jobs.”
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
May 18th, 2012
2:27 pm
Thulsa,
As to Florida law, I’ll take your word on it. I just don’t know. Just let the courts to their thing and I’ll be OK with whatever comes out.
Steve
May 18th, 2012
2:27 pm
(banjo music playing)
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
May 18th, 2012
2:27 pm
…and words for us all…
http://scifi.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/05/18/sci-fi-fantasy-star-trek-what-if-my-names-wolfram-alpha/
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
May 18th, 2012
2:27 pm
getalife….. peep this..lol
For all the Zim fans:
http://stat.mobli.com/media_stills/media_3856234.jpg
Adam
May 18th, 2012
2:27 pm
Thulsa: I’m sorry but your description of bain capital as a “vulture capitalist” is simply wrong as I’ve shown you
You didn’t show me any such thing. You objected to the name I gave the description of the practice, rather than the description of the practice. And now you want to argue about ONLY THAT. Sorry, but no. If you want to talk about my description of what Bain did on a regular basis, and throw in a little thing at the end of every post you make about it saying “But that’s not ‘vulture capitalist’ that’s ‘insert other name for it here’” then fine. But no, not going to follow you down a terminology rabbit hole.
They BOTH suck
May 18th, 2012
2:29 pm
Adam
Take a Valium or something
Adam
May 18th, 2012
2:29 pm
Why the heck do we have so much detailed info regarding the Martin case? Doesn’t that automatically give him appeal capability?
DawgDad
May 18th, 2012
2:30 pm
“They know that public investments by previous generations have created the infrastructure that they rely upon on a daily basis, and they also realize that in recent years that infrastructure has been badly underfunded. ”
So answer these questions for me: HOW did those previous generations manage to finance the CREATION of all the existing infrastructure WITHOUT this additional 1% tax? WHY has infrastructure “been badly underfunded” in recent years? To to what extent (who decides how much)? Where is the infrastructure money going? WHY would I possibly be inclined to vote for a new tax to fund a plan that is guaranteed to DISRUPT traffic on my major artery during construction and subsequently make congestion WORSE? Huh?
This is WHY there is a Tea Party; GOP leaders are not all conservative economically. Please tell that private group to stop polling me – they are wasting the time and the money they could otherwise contribute to infrastructure.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
May 18th, 2012
2:30 pm
Interesting…
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/18/11757714-romneys-day-one-what-do-we-know-about-his-plan?lite
Logical Dude
May 18th, 2012
2:31 pm
(driveby)
Jay says: Passage of the TSPLOST, he says, is critical to that growth.
Without a fresh infusion of capital, Georgia’s transportation infrastructure will no longer be competitive in a global economy
The issue is that STATE GOVERNMENT
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
May 18th, 2012
2:32 pm
Interesting read and look see…
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/18/11757714-romneys-day-one-what-do-we-know-about-his-plan?lite
Logical Dude
May 18th, 2012
2:33 pm
I guess my keyboard works faster than I do. . .
The issue is that STATE GOVERNMENT wants YOU to vote for a tax hike yourself. If YOU don’t do it, then the STATE will have to actually get off their friggin arses and pass a true DOT funding mechanism to stay competive. . . and well, they just don’t have the ba… guts to do it.
getalife
May 18th, 2012
2:33 pm
Both,
Our President will use all gop tactics and will fight to the end.
Hypocrisy is used on both sides and fair.
The” we are better than them and won’t will not be like them” argument lost in his campaign.
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
May 18th, 2012
2:33 pm
-Mitt Romney’s first general election ad makes ‘day one’ promises-
The ad also says Romney will introduce tax cuts and reforms “that reward job creators, not punish them.”
More tax cuts for the Wealthy…..CONs love that.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/mitt-romney-first-general-election-ad-makes-day-140352469.html?bcmt=1337351941725-d17af25e-ccca-4fa6-b7b1-37ddb7e46c5f&bcmt_s=u
stands for decibels
May 18th, 2012
2:33 pm
Changing gears a bit–anyone else happen upon this?
5 Ways to Spot a B.S. Political Story in Under 10 Seconds
This turdstorm of pointless click-bait filler is a problem for anyone who wants to be an informed voter. To learn anything useful, you need to be able to sort through all of the garbage to find the actual information and insight. So let me just tell you right now that you can safely ignore any story if …
#5. The Headline Contains the Word “Gaffe”
Basically, It’s … a politician accidentally misspoke in a way that made him or her look silly, and the opponents are pouncing on it.
If you’re new to following politics, trust me when I say you will grow to absolutely hate the word “gaffe.” Go to a news portal or a politics blog and search for the word “gaffe” and watch the server nearly burst into flames trying to serve results.
[...]
“Obama gaffe,” “Romney gaffe,” “Perry gaffe,” “Biden gaffe” — every party gets it equally. The word just means “embarrassing mistake,” and I have literally never heard it used outside of the context of a meaningless, bullsh#t filler political news story. I’m not normally an angry man, but it’s such an obnoxious word that if somebody at work used “gaffe” in a sentence I would fling my goddamned coffee into his face.
As they say–read the whole thing.
Thulsa Doom
May 18th, 2012
2:34 pm
“Testimony from Martins GF will seal his fate especially since she was on the phone with him, when he was confronted.”
Sorry but the call to the girlfriend doesn’t fully tell the story-especially since the call dropped. She does not know if he immediately went and confronted or was confronted by Z after the call ended or if he had words with Z, left, and then came back around and confronted him. In other words we don’t fully know. You gotta do better than that to earn a B O O M ! Sorry poo try harder.
Mighty Righty
May 18th, 2012
2:35 pm
What he Said
Neitier you nor I were there, so we have only the known facts to deal with colored by our personal experience and prejudice. I believe the facts suport Zimmermans report of the attack. He said he was returning to his car after the 911 operator, who BTW is not a police officer or a representive of the police, when he was attacked, knocked to the ground and was being beaten by Travon. Now even if Zimmerman did instigate the incident, that does not relieve Travon of the responsibility to control himself. Zimmerman stated he believed his life was in danger. His injuries, head wounds, broken nose, was still being beaten by Travon while Travon was sitting on top of him substantiates his version and that of an eye witness who saw Travon on top of Zimmerman beating him. Attorneys when gven the latest facts believe Zimmerman’s story. This will be settled in court. I believe Zimmerman walks.
getalife
May 18th, 2012
2:36 pm
Joe,
That cracked me up
My rule is don’t start none and there won’t be none.
If you go out looking for trouble, you will find it.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
May 18th, 2012
2:36 pm
Heh, heh…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9LZvsbCuFw&feature=youtu.be
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
May 18th, 2012
2:36 pm
DOOM-Sorry but the call to the girlfriend doesn’t fully tell the story-especially since the call dropped.”
What it does is contradict his “walking back to the car” story.
Mick
May 18th, 2012
2:36 pm
yaker
If the z-man had just stayed in his car and let the police do their job, a youth would still be alive and he wouldn’t be hiding out – fact…
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
May 18th, 2012
2:38 pm
Doom…..Zim says he never confronted him. Contradicts his statement sport.
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
May 18th, 2012
2:40 pm
Mighty Righty…..so you okay with those govt subsidies Bain Capital received?
Recon 0311 2533
May 18th, 2012
2:40 pm
Do you really want to talk about hypocrisy.
.
Seriously?
get, I’ve seen better dodges but you tried.
Mick
May 18th, 2012
2:41 pm
It’s just like 911, they didn’t have to know the plot, just be on alert for hijackings that summer, which they were by the way but only for gov’t officials; no hijackings, no 911…
getalife
May 18th, 2012
2:41 pm
zimm will do hard time.
Done.
What else do you tea party cons want to lie about?
getalife
May 18th, 2012
2:42 pm
del,
Both sides will use it.
Deal with it.
Thulsa Doom
May 18th, 2012
2:42 pm
Adam,
Bottom line is that vulture capitalism is not what Bain capital is about. Certainly there were some companies that they tried to save and turn around and couldn’t and then had to end up selling off what was left of the company to salvage what they could. That’s life and not every business is going to be successful. Surely you understand that.
But the primary purpose of the company was to identify turnaround situations or undercapitalized companies and turn them into successful enterprises. Here are some of the household whos who business names that they have been involved with. Do these companies represent “vulture capitalism”?
“Bain grew, and in the process it hired a lot of business analysts and other support personnel. The companies they invested in or acquired in buyout deals became hugely successful enterprises: Domino’s Pizza, Sealy, Sports Authority, Dunkin’ Donuts, Toys R Us, Burger King and countless other firms whose expansion over the years have created thousands of jobs.”
Recon 0311 2533
May 18th, 2012
2:44 pm
TBS, Thank you for your fair comment but enlightening getalife seems next to impossible.
Mighty Righty
May 18th, 2012
2:44 pm
Jay says Georgia won’t be competitive in a “GLOBAL” economy without a high speed rail! I have a better idea and it may even be cheaper. Dig a canal from Atlanta to the Savanah River and widen it to the Atlantic. We could load and unload cargo containers right down town. That would be GLOBAL. I am afraid a train from downtown to Marietta or Macon or both just doesn’t pass the global smell test.
Thulsa Doom
May 18th, 2012
2:45 pm
Joe cool,
No it doesn’t because we don’t know what happened after he hung up the phone with her. We don’t know if T ran behind a building or if he directly confronted Z. We do not know. I can’t make that point any simpler for you, kamchak and others.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
May 18th, 2012
2:47 pm
Weird…
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/05/defense-house-turns-down-amendments-against-f35b-v22-051712/
getalife
May 18th, 2012
2:47 pm
del,
Who is willard romney?
Tell me about who he is.
Recon 0311 2533
May 18th, 2012
2:49 pm
After hearing that just released tape from the eyewitness I don’t see how the prosecution can get a conviction in the Travon Martin case. It appears to support Zimmerman’s version.
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
May 18th, 2012
2:50 pm
Thulsa Doom
May 18th, 2012
2:45 pm
Let me try this again……According to Zim, he says he NEVER confronted him at any point until he was attacked from behind right? Problem is, Martin GF is on the phone when Zim ask him, “what are you doing here”.
MrLiberty
May 18th, 2012
2:51 pm
Just another reason why so many are so disgusted with the GOP. No principles.
Thulsa Doom
May 18th, 2012
2:51 pm
Normal,
I wish I could remember who it was but someone on here that seemed to really know the Fla. law pretty well was talking about it and explained the high bar the state would need to exceed to prove Z was lying. In any event I grow weary of the whole situation and I wish people would just not worry about it and let the system run its course. Damn shame that the young man died and I think we all agree on that.
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
May 18th, 2012
2:53 pm
“After hearing that just released tape from the eyewitness I don’t see how the prosecution can get a conviction in the Travon Martin case. It appears to support Zimmerman’s version.”
SMH…witness says Zim was getting his azz whooped. Thats it. Doesnt say where it started. If you follow me and confront me, and think its okay, you best believe you are in store for an azz whooping too
getalife
May 18th, 2012
2:54 pm
zimm will cop a plea.
He was told not to follow but he did anyway.
Ultimately Avoidable is the argument.
Beat that,
.
Mick
May 18th, 2012
2:55 pm
**Damn shame that the young man died and I think we all agree on that.**
Yes, damn shame because it didn’t have to happen, and that is the crux of the issue…
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
May 18th, 2012
2:57 pm
SHEEEEEETS
Recon 0311 2533
May 18th, 2012
2:57 pm
“If you follow me and confront me, and think its okay, you best believe you are in store for an azz whooping too”
You sound like a real “azz” whooper, on a blog of course.
Soothsayer
May 18th, 2012
2:58 pm
Here’s an idea: instead of taxing Georgians on what they purchase, let’s impose a tax on imports coming through the Port of Savannah.
If you’re gonna buy cheap, Chinese crap, you may as well help our infrastructure in the process.
I wonder how many of you remember the Georgia 400 toll? Remember that it was supposed “go away?”
getalife
May 18th, 2012
2:58 pm
The gop are controlled by the tea party and do exactly what the tea party wants them to do .
Why? To save their precious jobs. The gop should change their name to tea party..
Our founders wanted them to serve then go back to their real jobs.
Thulsa Doom
May 18th, 2012
2:59 pm
Joe Cool,
I see what you’re saying. Obviously that would change things if she is to be believed and if she immediately stated that as her testimony. But I think what we need to have is his full story explaining this discrepancy and his testimony. And even then I’m still not sure that this gives trayvon the right to physically attack Z. If someone confronts you as a stranger in their neighborhood you do not automatically have the right to attack them. Otherwise I would have whupped a few asses in my time. A lot to sort out. Let the system play itself out.
You said it
May 18th, 2012
3:11 pm
“You sound like a real “azz” whooper, on a blog of course.”
Look in the mirror
Mighty Righty
May 18th, 2012
3:19 pm
Here is the opposite of the Bain Capital Steel Dynamics tax break. Where I live,we have plenty of vacant land accessable to I 75. The land is just sitting there not producing much revenue and frankly is an eye sore. A few years ago, a major retailer wanted to locate here and acquire that land. The retailer was a large mail order on line retailer as well as on premises retailer. The retailer did not ask for any tax breaks that I know of except it did not want to collect Georgia sales tax on its on line or mail order sales. The state and county refused to give them that exemption. So the company went to Chattanooga and opened their facility which employs between 200 and 400 people. The vacant property is still vacant, at least 200 people wo would have been paying taxes in Georgia do not have jobs and our county is hurting for tax revenue. I wish I could tell you the stupid politicians were Democrats. The idiots who made this decision were Republicans. Stupid is as stupid does regardless of whether Republican or Democrat. The shame is that the Democrats have moved so far to the left that their anti business attitude supports what the Republicans did in this case. The Democrats will have to get over hating business or they wil never get off of welefare and our nation will never progress from the doldrums it is in. To save this country from destroying itself we need to elect politicians that will be agressive in attracting business. The recession will never end until a majority understand the answer to our economic problems lies with business not government.
Adam
May 18th, 2012
3:32 pm
stands @ 2:33 good find!
Susan
May 18th, 2012
4:06 pm
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Ol' Timer
May 18th, 2012
4:27 pm
Bud Wiser isn’t. . . .