More proof that this is not Ronald Reagan’s GOP

The GOP started changing in 1964…and they haven’t looked back since!! Between xenophobia, racism, sexism….if you ain’t straight and white…you ain’t right!!

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So when you’re implying that Ronald Reagan’s statement “we must at least pledge unified support of the ultimate decision” is not being heeded, you’re talking about Lugar’s refusal to commit to supporting Mourdock if Mourdock happens to win, despite the fact that Mourdock has pledged his support to Lugar should Lugar win? Is that what you’re saying?

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Seldom, if ever, will we raise a cheer signifying unanimous approval of the decisions reached

Definitely NOT what is going on in Congress.

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Clearly, the problem with these assessments of Reagan is that they fail to take into account right wingnut inflation since Reagan’s time. Once you add on an average shift farther right per year of 5%, you easily reach the current level of right wingnuttery relative to the Reagan baseline of 100% right wingnut.

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“The GOP started changing in 1964…and they haven’t looked back since!! Between xenophobia, racism, sexism….if you ain’t straight and white…you ain’t right!!”

Once again we have to dispel HDB and her usual race card.

A higher % of Rs than Ds voted for the Civil rights act of 1964 and the voting rights act of 1965. FACT.

It was also Rs whose “philadelphia Plan” in the 1970s sought to break the construction unions racial barriers that kept blacks out of skilled trades.

HDDB don’t let the facts get in the way of your hate.

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Thulsa Doom: A higher % of Rs than Ds voted for the Civil rights act of 1964 and the voting rights act of 1965. FACT.

It was also Rs whose “philadelphia Plan” in the 1970s sought to break the construction unions racial barriers that kept blacks out of skilled trades.

And what are they doing NOW to improve race relations? And please, don’t say something that indicates there’s no longer a race problem. That’ll get you a nice big facepalm.

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Thulsa Doom-No mention of Nixon’s Southern Strategy huh?. No surprise there. No mention of Ronnie kicking off his campaign in Philadelphia, Miss. or the Bob Jones stops. I can’t believe every black person isn’t a died-in-the-wool wingnut to hear you tell it.

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The history of the 21st Century Republican Party in one paragraph: segregationist Southern Democrats split from the Democrat Party to become Dixiecrats; one-by-one, they turn coat again to become Republicans; then, they take control of the conventional Republican Party; finally, they divide our country into red and blue states, roughly corresponding to the geographic and ideological lines of 1860-1865.

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Black representation in the GOP – 2%.
Black representation in the Democratic Party – 19%

Charts, with colors!

http://factcheck.org/Images/image/2008/ask_factcheck_images/april2008/BlackVote/Black_Vote_Pres.jpg

http://factcheck.org/Images/image/2008/ask_factcheck_images/april2008/BlackVote/Black_Party_ID%287%29.jpg

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Goldwater

“I believe in separation of church and state,”

“A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means. They think I’ve turned liberal because I believe a woman has a right to an abortion. That’s a decision that’s up to the pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious Right.”

There is no place in this country for practicing religion in politics. That goes for Falwell, Robertson and all the rest of these political preachers. They are a detriment to the country.”

“When you say ‘radical right’ today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye.”

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“The GOP offers nothing to anyone if they believe in facts and/or science.”

But the Liberals offer you a free weekly pay check and lots of other monetary goodies…

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And to think Obama isn’t even running against Reagan.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-obama-dead-even-key-swing-states-according-164120093.html

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The above damning figure is perspective.

Out of fifty Republicans in a room, one will be black.

One.

And watch carefully at the GOP Convention in Tampa latter this year.

This is not exactly newsworthy, but the Lily White Party has a big “Tent problem”!

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The GOP track record is bad. This is fact.

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Should have written “demicritic party”, not “demicratic”

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ZEBRA

Who’s the mayor of Philadelphia, Mississippi? Or are you still stuck in the 1960s yourself? What do you know of that little political event that Reagan went to, the Neshoba County Fair…just doing my EOI duties…

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Obama track record is bad

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Don’t kid yourself. Ronald Reagan kicked off his bid for the presidency in Philadelphia, Mississippi, the home of the murders of three young Civil Rights workers. Reagan said at that time that he supported, “State Rights” – which was code for independence from federal government intervention.

ALEC started its assault on any government intervention into private markets in the mid 1970s, using stealthy tactics, that have only recently emerged into the public’s awareness. Where the Republican Party stands today – with its extreme ideological private market purity and no tax agenda -has been decades in the making. Part of the original impetus for that movement included Reagan’s domestic policies regarding the dominance of the private marketplace within the American landscape.

These rightwing, conservative views have contrasted sharply with those of JFK, Robert Kennedy, Edward Kennedy, LBJ – and certainly those of FDR – in which government has been viewed as essentially beneficial to its citizens.

What a battle ground. The effect has been devastating. Balance must return. We need private markets AND governmental regulations and services, such as public education and transportation. We need to cut spending AND to raise revenue. We need to stop the polarization of generalized thinking.

Below is a link which demonstrates one example of the extremes to which ALEC has gone in its ideological agenda – that of dismantling public “government” education for private market-based and for-profit education. Education is only one area of the “American landscape” that has been long losing balance, as a result of this extreme rightwing libertarian ideological agenda, and its damaging propaganda which has been spread across our nation.

http://www.educationvotes.nea.org/2012/05/03/alec-puts-its-fangs-to-education/

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Peadawg true dat

Btw, democratic party was the Klan party up until only recently

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Just once I’d like to read the first couple of pages of comments and find a well-reasoned, on point, factual basis to something Jay wrote.

But if all one has to draw upon are sound bites, slogans and misleading responses lifted from others, I suppose it’s not surprising.

Jay

Diane Rehm show today. ‘Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein: “It’s Even Worse Than It Looks”

“Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein join Diane to talk about their new book and why they think Congress has become more partisan and dysfunctional than at any other time in history.”

Addresses what you wrote about. I don’t believe the transcript is up but the audio’s available. Maybe on your ride home?

http://thedianerehmshow.org/

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Romney has closed the wide swing state gap favoring Obama in March. Believing that there isn’t significant concern within Obama’s campaign would be a false belief.

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josef -Reagan kicked off his campaign there but no doubt his motives were just as pure as the driven snow. The 3 people killed near there were just an unfortunate coincidence.

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ZEBRA

And like I said, you and Reagan are peas in a pod…what DO you know about what Philadelphia has accomplished since then?

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Here’s how far off the deep end the R’s have become:

Barry Goldwater — the wackiest of wack job R’s — was married to the founder of Planned Parenthood of Northern Arizona.

And if he were to run for President today… he’d never get close just because of how much today’s Republicans hate women’s health issues.

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josef – I hope things are great there and continue to be, (I have faith in our Southland’s future) but nothing will change what Reagan did there in 1980 and more importantly why he chose that particular place.

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Reagan needed the Southern vote to win the presidency in 1980. The ideological impetus Reagan was attempting to build in 1980 still has dominance in the South, and parts of the West, today.

The discussion should not center on the past – it should center on the future. However, where Reagan’s politics positioned itself, literally, in 1980 showed the direction our nation would be taking for the next 30 years. It has been a regressive direction. Time to move “forward” again. And that word, with all of the positive connotations it brings, should be supported by all.

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First of all Jay, I don’t read mainstream liberal opinion mags, but not for the reason you would like to believe. It isn’t because I don’t want to, it is because I don’t have the time. I do read the Washington Post, the New York Times and the LA Times and I guess these could be considered mainstream liberal “rags” (just as the AJC is). I always want to know what the other side is up to but now, you liberals have become very predictable and it isn’t difficult to see what you believe.

The “Super Committee” is a prime example of the extremism that exist in the Democrats. It was supposed to be comprised of a group of politicians from both sides who could put politics aside and achieve grand things for our country’s economic “condition” because of their “centricism” and their history as people who could get things done, wasn’t it? But in the end, the extremism of Kerry and others derailed that effort totally.

My point to you is that you are so blinded you can’t recognize the extremism in your own party. You have never written one piece critical of Obama. Never and that is scary unto itself. That should make the alarm go off in any thinking persons (much less a journalists) mind. The party of Reid and Pelosi has abosutely no right at all to claim that the Republicans have all become extrimists because they have driven the democrats into a corral wherein if you are not with them, then you are out and you lose the dollars. During the healthcare debate the centrist democrats that were against it were pretty much either bribed or they were threatened by their own party and they were whipped into submission (according to their tenure and status in the party).

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ZEBRA
I am not at all trying to “change” what Reagan did there in 1980…it was a cheap, low-down and sorry act playing on the town’s tragic history and did nothing positive except slap Philadelphia in the face one more time. And for the record, we cracked a bottle of that fine wine saved to toast his passage to the great beyond. One of the few people whose deaths didn’t pain me.

The point is, and no body seems to give a sh*t when they go throwing out Philadelphia the way they do, is the town, predominantly white, elected a black mayor. Isn’t that MORE symbolic? I think it is.

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I am hard pressed to believe that white Republicans have had much to do with the gains made in Philadelphia (population 7,477)…

In May 2009, Philadelphia elected its first black mayor, James A. Young, a 53-year-old Pentecostal preacher and a former county supervisor. He defeated Rayburn Waddell, a white, three-term incumbent, by 46 votes in the Democratic primary.

Young’s campaign staff credited Barack Obama’s presidential campaign for increasing registration of black and young voters in Philadelphia, many of whom voted for Young. Young’s term began July 3, 2009.

Can someone tell me otherwise?

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“you liberals have become very predictable and it isn’t difficult to see what you believe. ”

Looked in the mirror lately

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Don’t tread

“Lugar needs to go. I’m hoping he loses, badly.

He can always run as the Democrat, though – he votes like one.”

If I read you correctly, you disagree with Reagan and agree with Danforth.

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Paul 4:31

Liberals don’t listen to well reasoned points. So theres no point in bothering.

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pogo, good post.

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Pogo…I think you’ve confused Jay with a journalist.

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Matti

May 7th, 2012
4:48 pm
Y’all DO understand that the people who really run the world ($$$$) don’t change with our silly little elections, right? They OWN our executive office and whomever we allegedly elect, either before election day, or five minutes after. The real power on the planet changes little, and does not care one whit about your health care needs, personal dignity, or civil rights. All the frenzied issues of the day are distractions — something to keep us at each other’s throats instead of paying attention to what’s really happening.
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Matti, this is a great BIG digital “high 5″ for that post.

I have been saying this for years.

The money is keeping us at each others throats and fostering distrust.

Ever notice, no matter what party is in charge, the same people connected to gov’t keep making more and more money?

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Mr. Heyward,

Good stuff, but will you please attribute?

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What do the anti-abortion democrats have to say about this sad state of affairs?

The dithering, mushy-mouthed “centrists” will have to decide whether they liked the Stimulus and ObamaCare and the job-killing Dodd-Frank, and “may I have another sir,” or whether they want to elect people with a little fiscal discipline. Some learn slowly, but more are catching on daily.

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Last time I looked, today’s GOP unlike today’s DEM party, wasn’t he11-bent on transforming America into a 3rd world country full of sponges. Freedom and opportunity are still the main planks…not divisive class warfare. The DEMS need to get away from that angle cause it’s growing tired…

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josef, 4:49 pm

I have moved well past you and Philadelphia, MS, even as early as the 1950s. You just don’t see it. You, on the other hand, seem to be stuck in Philadelphia, Mississippi. That locale was only a brief dot of my 4:30 pm post and I had read no other posts when I made my remarks. Had no idea anyone else had written of Philadelphia, MS and Reagan. Notice that my 4:30 pm link centered on ALEC.

Time to move on from “Midgets’ Corners” (your description of your own habitat) to the larger world community.

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Heyward…

You’re as full of sh*t as a Christmas turkey…

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Caution—-Al Queda is now using “body bombs”.
Do you need to do an anal probe Mr. TSA Agent?..And here is my young daughter to peer at..She MAY be a terrorist.
After all…………its not against the law.—–
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The Obsession With The Law: The slave mentality, though illogical and psychotic, still requires a certain foundation to hold it together. The laws of governments tend to suffice. These laws may go completely against the force of inherent conscience, but because the slave has already abandoned listening to his inner voice of reason, this does not bother him much. If you have ever wondered why modern tyrannies always feel the need to put their horrific enforcements in writing first, THIS is why. Oligarchs understand that the law provides the slave with a means to rationalize his participation in the crimes of the state. After all, if some gut-bloated bloodthirsty elitists in government etch their mad inbred ramblings into law, then we have no choice but to follow them, right?

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The Need To Be Accepted: A slave seeks harmony not within, but without, even when that “harmony” is with a system that is designed to destroy him. The viciousness of collectivism lay in its ability to comfort converts with atrocity. As long as the slave feels as though he is a part of the machine, and accepted by the group, he cares not what the machine does to others.

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ME

Then, pray tell, oh Pious One, why do you feel so obliged as to bring up Philadelphia’s sad, tragic past without mentioning how much it HAS moved on? Probably because you have no idea of what the town has done…it just doesn’t fit your narrow-minded, memo-riddled world view…

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Jay

You should put up a warning for major traffic diversions when you post something like this. It’s beginning to get sad to see that your detractors on the right can not formulate a factual point-by-point refutation of things you post without going to the “Johnny did it too!!” defense or simply avoiding your point(s) altogether.

If this country is so center-right as people claim, there should be little to no problem t building a finely articulated dissent to anything you post here.

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Paul

You’re more likely to get struck by lightning while going to claim your record MegaMillions Lottery jackpot while driving your date, Giada De Laurentiis, back to the airport to catch her return flight home after coming to spend a weekend with you before you get what you asked on the first page.

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Finally…a REAL example of irony.
From water-cop snoops, to the knuckle-draggers of the Secret Service or the DHS, to the creeps that want to frisk you at a sports event.
They’re all the same.

The Need For Control: I suppose it’s ironic, but the average slave loves tyranny because it affords him a perceived seat at the table of power, perhaps for the first time in his entire life. Collectivist slaves are often people who have felt weak and inadequate since childhood. While honorable human beings fight this personal uncertainty by strengthening themselves physically and mentally, and improving upon their own character, the slave takes the easy route by joining with bureaucracy and living vicariously through its conquests. Through the state, the hollow, cowardly, and stupid, have the ability to “show the world who’s boss”, and get revenge for a life filled with meaninglessness.

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Here you go JamVet: (from the Washington Post)
“Miller, for his part, insists he’s acting out of conscience. “Have you ever seen a 72-year-old man flip-flop?” he demanded. It is the national party that has changed, he insists, by veering left and abandoning its once-loyal conservative southern constituency — although Miller, who chaired the national party’s 1996 platform committee, appears not to have decided this until he arrived in Washington in 2000.

Called out of retirement to finish the unexpired term of Sen. Paul Coverdell (R), who died that summer of a brain hemorrhage, Miller wrote in his book that he found a national Democratic Party run by cultural elites and organized labor. In 2002, he observed, when Republicans swept statewide Georgia races, defeating Gov. Roy Barnes (D) and Sen. Max Cleland (D), no national Democratic leader could campaign in Georgia without doing more harm than good. Miller cut ads defending both Democrats, to no avail.

“If this is a national party, sushi is our national dish,” Miller wrote. While Franklin D. Roosevelt said of the South, “I see one-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clad, ill-nourished,” according to Miller, “Today, our national Democratic leaders look south and say, ‘I see one-third of a nation and it can go to hell.’ ”

Miller said the final straw came after Sept. 11, 2001, when Senate Democratic leaders opposed Republican legislation to create the Department of Homeland Security. Most Democrats, including Cleland, backed an alternative bill with stiffer employee protections. Miller, like President George W. Bush, viewed this as putting loyalty to organized labor ahead of national security, and he blamed it for Cleland’s defeat, as did a number of analysts in Georgia. (Democratic leaders blamed Republican ads portraying Cleland, a triple amputee from the Vietnam War, as unpatriotic for voting against the Bush-backed bill.) After the homeland security vote, Miller stopped attending weekly Democratic caucus meetings.”

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Ragnar

To clarify about “earmarks”; I mean “earmarks” in that very stimulus bill that they say was bad for America.

I do not condone “earmarks” for anyone. All monies should be easily tracked and not hidden deep within some bill.

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Thulsa Doom

May 7th, 2012
4:50 pm
And what are the Dems doing NOW to improve race relations?- typo correction

I dunno Adam. You tell me.
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They remind you that you are a racist if you don’t support Obama.

You meanie you.

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“Liberals don’t listen to well reasoned points”

Sure we do. When we’re presented with them. Seldom happens here.

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JamVet
May 7th, 2012
4:22 pm

The above damning figure is perspective.

Out of fifty Republicans in a room, one will be black.

One.

And watch carefully at the GOP Convention in Tampa latter this year.

This is not exactly newsworthy, but the Lily White Party has a big “Tent problem”!

And the other 49 will be in the dem tent because they need financial assistance from the gub’ment due to the high rate of single mommies unable to collect child support from multiple street running baby daddies, and hating black achievers like Condoleeza Rice and Clarence Thomas. How dare they achieve.

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Paul,

want to see a picture of him?

just look up “inept” in the dictionary.

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Your argument would be stronger a dad, if you were more specific.

Do you have any specific facts or figures?

Unfortunately, blacks who would join the GOP, attempt to advance themselves via education or industry…

All blacks? Some blacks? A few blacks? More blacks that do so than in the Democratic Party?

If so, where is the proof?

jonix, don’t let your blood pressure get too high. (grin)

Hell man, you never see me get that skinned about my birth state – and they have got some real friggin’ losers there, like those putrid louts at the Westboro Baptist Church!

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And the other 49 will be in the dem tent because they need financial assistance from the gub’ment due to the high rate of single mommies unable to collect child support from multiple street running baby daddies, and hating black achievers like Condoleeza Rice and Clarence Thomas. How dare they achieve.

considering that “red” states get the most gub’ment welfare, your point is what exactly?

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“And the other 49 will be in the dem tent because they need financial assistance from the gub’ment due to the high rate of single mommies unable to collect child support from multiple street running baby daddies, and hating black achievers like Condoleeza Rice and Clarence Thomas. How dare they achieve”

Now THAT’s the way to win ‘em over to your side.

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And the other 49 will be in the dem tent because they need financial assistance from the gub’ment due to the high rate of single mommies unable to collect child support from multiple street running baby daddies, and hating black achievers like Condoleeza Rice and Clarence Thomas. How dare they achieve.

Your argument would be stronger, Sinkwich Prince, if you were more specific.

Do you have ANY specifics at all to make a convincing argument?

I mean other than your racist stereotypes…

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“And the other 49 will be in the dem tent because they need financial assistance from the gub’ment due to the high rate of single mommies unable to collect child support from multiple street running baby daddies, and hating black achievers like Condoleeza Rice and Clarence Thomas. How dare they achieve.”

49 out of 50?

Wow

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considering that “red” states get the most gub’ment welfare, your point is what exactly?

Also there are more white people on welfare than blacks.

I know that’s hard for some to swallow but its true.

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InAtl’s translation: I got nothing, so I’ll attack the poster.

you’re the one who wanted to put up a nut job as a shining example of whatever your point was.

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“Do you have ANY specifics at all to make a convincing argument?

I mean other than your racist stereotypes”

Short answer: No

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InATL

I never met Zell Miller and he is welcome to his opinions as we all are.

With that said, you don’t think a book deal and paid guest appearance on Fox News could have swayed him at all, do you?

I do not know either way, but the Democrat party didn’t change that much from 01 to 04.

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josef

Good luck tonight. Sounds like a tough spot to be in.

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my IQ

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O.K. Jamvet
http://newsone.com/1195075/children-single-parents-u-s-american/
http://newsone.com/1510935/black-unemployment-rate/
http://www.nndb.com/people/205/000024133/
Enjoy

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A Dad — “Unfortunately, blacks who would join the GOP, attempt to advance themselves via education or industry, and don’t buy into the “it’s whitey’s fault” are labeled as “Uncle Tom’s.” I for one have seen time and time again racial taunts thrown as some of my black colleagues for “acting white” in trying to get ahead.”

Are you saying that such sentiments are *representative* of Democrats who comment on African-Americans in the GOP?

Or are you upset that such things are said at all?

FWIW, I don’t subscribe to such views, and I don’t believe that many — or any — posters here *do* subscribe to them. Anyone who says something like that, Republican or Democrat, isn’t speaking for me, and it’s certainly not part of any Democratic platform I’m aware of.

Speaking for myself, I didn’t think much of Herman Cain as a candidate, but I certainly didn’t deride him as an “Uncle Tom” or anything remotely like that. In fact, my criticism of him centered around the fact that there were no publicly available performance data from Pillsbury or Burger King from the periods when he was in leadership positions at those companies — and so it was impossible to judge for ourselves whether or not he was truly the business success he had represented himself to be.

There are plenty of ways to criticize any political candidate without having to stoop to racist comments.

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yep:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-september-2-2004/indecision-2004—zell-on-earth

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“I try never to get into a blog fight with an idiot.”

Charming, as always

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josef

May 7th, 2012
5:23 pm
Okay, fair is fair. Why am I in such a slathering dither tonight, you may ask. I’ll tell you. Tonight I’ve got to go in my professional capacity to interpret for a group of Latino parents who have literally just been sold down the river, told to shut up and be grateful by the Black, Liberal and White Conservatives acting in cohort. Why do I not want to go back to the 1960s here? Because I have to go back to the 1960s tonight. And I have to keep my own mouth shut and my own opinions to myself.
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josef, can you provide any details? Not names and places, but just an overview?

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Which of the two major political parties has floated “Purity Tests” in Idaho, South Carolina and Washington DC?

Which one has men like Grover “The Grand Inquistor” Norquist who forces members to sign binding pledges, “even if your country goes to hell? (Hat tip Alan Simpson R-Wy.)

The neoconservative movement has murdered traditional conservatism, tolerance and dissent in the GOP. Gawd knows when, if ever, it will be resurrected.

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“The neoconservative movement has murdered traditional conservatism, tolerance and dissent in the GOP”

Yep. Drowned it in a bath tub.

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Bigoted Prince, those articles confirm that ..49 out of 50 blacks will be in the dem tent because they need financial assistance from the gub’ment due to the high rate of single mommies unable to collect child support from multiple street running baby daddies, and hating black achievers like Condoleeza Rice and Clarence Thomas.

And you really think I’m gonna waste my time wading through your tripe, when you don’t even have the balls to quote the very first relevant sentence from any of them???

Man, you really know how to make a convincing argument to bolster your rabid Republican racism, huh?

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JamVet — “The neoconservative movement has murdered traditional conservatism, tolerance and dissent in the GOP. Gawd knows when, if ever, it will be resurrected.”

Not only that, but conservative intellectualism as well, such as that typified by William F. Buckley. I knew my days in the GOP were numbered when I saw a preponderance of commenters on a Free Republic thread deriding and mocking Buckley some years ago.

Truth, honesty and a dispassionate analysis of the facts — even uncomfortable ones — used to be the hallmark of intellectual conservatism. No longer, because it’s dead now for all I can tell.

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“Kinda funny to me, I view all humans as humans and make observations based on the individual.”

Yet I went on a bs filled diatribe about 49 of 50 blacks…………

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I see. You are an open minded dude. No doubt

Keep it up

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Joe Hussein Mama

May 7th, 2012
5:29 pm
FWIW, I don’t subscribe to such views, and I don’t believe that many — or any — posters here *do* subscribe to them. Anyone who says something like that, Republican or Democrat, isn’t speaking for me, and it’s certainly not part of any Democratic platform I’m aware of.
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JHM, you should hang with me sometime.

I have been kicked out of a carwash in College Park because I didn’t feel Obama was a great persident (this was during his FIRST FFS).
I have been called everything but a child of God because I state I’m not a democrat.
Do you know what it’s like to be in a setting (barbershop, family gathering whatever) and hear a political discussion take place, hear falsehoods being thrown all over and not participate because you don’t feel like being cussed out?
Have you ever been cussed out because you didn’t like a politician or party?
Ever had your ethnicity questioned because you didn’t like a politician or party?

Sucks to be a Black independent in America these days.

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TBG

Not the car wash?

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Excuse me “Would not call them……………..”

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They BOTH suck
May 7th, 2012
5:46 pm

“Kinda funny to me, I view all humans as humans and make observations based on the individual.”

Yet I went on a bs filled diatribe about 49 of 50 blacks…………

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I see. You are an open minded dude. No doubt

Keep it up

Why don’t you provide me with an explanation as to why 49 blacks go to the democrats every time if they don’t want something from the government without dropping the race card. Programming from where? Church?

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Prince

Back up the original assertion you made with actual statistics and we can move forward with the discussion.

Rhetoric, talking points and hyperbole will NOT suffice.

Other wise…….. bye bye

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But the Liberals offer you a free weekly pay check and lots of other monetary goodies

While the Reds offer Lotto-size checks to Big Oil,
then balk at spending 30 pennies per capita on algae research,

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“I suppose that’s because he means history as it is recorded in his own mind, which differs considerably from what actually happened.”

Wasn’t it Andy Warhol that said something like “Art is what I say it is” I guess history is whatever billybob says it is.

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“Why don’t you provide me with an explanation as to why 49 blacks go to the democrats every time if they don’t want something from the government without dropping the race card”

Could it possibly be because there are too many R’s that ask questions like this?

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My original assertion was a response to one from JamVet. Why don’t you call him out for the original assertion sychophant? And respond to my last post rather than change the subject.

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Con/Vet: “Sucks to be a Black independent in America these days.”

Stop hogging all the pity, Dude!! Do you think it doesn’t suck to be a Democrat in a Southern red state, where the national “debate” drowns out what the local & state bubbas are doing –that really affects our lives– year in and year out, and nobody will listen because they’re all dialed into the national cable “news” stories? How about a white woman who is seriously PRO-equality no matter what the flavor of your minority is, living amid people who blame “single mommies” and sensible health care initiatives for all their problems? Or the same venturing into the city where it’s assumed she’s one of “them?”

Furthermore, it also sucks to be a working class Republican misled into voting against his or her interests year after year, only…. many of them are still oblivious to their own reality, bless their hearts.

The suck-age is wide and plentiful, my dear. That’s the one thing for which there truly IS enough for everybody! (Or at least, 90-something percent of us.)

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Thanks Jay, and yes…that too.

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They BOTH suck

May 7th, 2012
5:51 pm
TBG

Not the car wash?
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Yup
Out side of politics, the owner and I get along great. So, now we discuss every thing but.

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Jay
May 7th, 2012
5:55 pm

You gotta love how the Prince plays the race card so flamboyantly, then declares it off-limits to raise the issue in any other context.

Bury your head in the sand, sing Kumbaya, and pretend all is well in the African American communities in the south enlightened one.

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huseein’s central gov’t planning policies…a better bunch of big gov’t leftists…

Blah, blah, blah.

So what do your cons do?

For the second straight time, you desperately try to nominate some truly rabid right winger – think of some of them, from Keyes to Cain to Brownback to Huckabee to Hunter to Newt to both Ricks to Michelle – and fail.

And this time instead of just nominating a loathed RINO like McCain, you’re getting ready to nominate the RINO Father of Socialized Medicine.

Aka, “I was Obamacare before Obamacare was cool”.

And you rubes DARE trot out the constant socialist/leftist/Communist/Marxist claptrap?

Though Joseph McCarthy would be proud of you guys, you are once again gonna get Mccained, because your own party can’t even stand the nominee…

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There’s more projection in this thread than in all movie theaters combined, if all those movie theaters were built out of movie theaters with extra projectors in them.

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Fresh Prince

We see you only have name calling to back up your assertions.

Thanks for playing.

Take care

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Well put Brocephus, a tangible explanation that other frequent poster are unable to nut up. Now explain please why the lean toward more liberal candidates?

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josef, 5:30

“Then, of course, I’m not a self-loathing Southerner who went running off Up North to “escape” and then came back after the firestorm to criticize those who stayed and stuck it out, to tell them just what a bad job they did of it.”
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Like I said, josef, you are full of stereotypical images of others in your own head. And so much anger, also, it appears – from your above words.

I have never identified primarily with any locale, or race, or gender, or ethnic group. So when one criticizes the South, or South Georgia, or NYC, I do not perceive that that person is criticizing me, any more than I would think that one is criticizing me, personally, who criticizes “Liberals,” in general. Moreover, I like the person I am, and was.

I went to Connecticut in 1961 to study drama at a summer playhouse, as a young acting apprentice. I fell in love with a young man from Washington State. We both did not feel an affinity with our middle class roots. We married in my south Georgia hometown two years later, and we left for NYC to live. I lived with him in NYC’s East Village where I worked and where I went to school at NYU. I felt more affinity with people in the Village than in S. GA. When we ended our marriage, I decided to come back to Georgia, after 7 years in the City, because I knew that I needed the emotional support of my family. Simple as that. If my family had been from Ohio, I would have returned to Ohio. My first husband and I remained dear, lifelong friends, until his death in NYC in 2006. His poetry was been well received, including a New York Foundation Grant for the Arts award. A book of his poetry was published, posthumously, in 2011, for which I was asked to write the Forward. He and I had the same world vision, unlike those with whom we had grown up. I have always loved my Southern family, and I like many things about the South, as well as about NYC – the primary places of my in depth experiences. It is you who continues to see in stereotypes regarding my perceptions, and suspect you do so with others, also.

Perhaps, this reminder of my response to your post on “Mary Elizabeth Sings” on December 20, 2010, will help you to understand, better, my thinking and my consciousness. I sincerely hope so.

“For josef nix -

Thank you for reading my blog and for taking the time to write such an in depth response to this post. It is obvious that you identify with many labels of yourself, as you described in your first few paragraphs, and one of those labels to which you most strongly identify, as evidenced in the latter part of your response, is that of being a gay man. You have perhaps missed, I think, the essence of what I was attempting to communicate, and that is that there is a core spirit, within each one of us, that is beyond labels of any kind.

I hope that you will read my next post, entitled, ‘Open Letter to Readers Regarding ‘I Am What I Am. ‘ ‘ I wrote that post not only as a response to your authentic comments, but also to share with readers my thinking, in greater detail, regarding the limitations of assigning labels, of any nature, to ourselves and others.”

http://maryelizabethsings.wordpress.com/2010/12/10/i-am-what-i-am/

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I see the Republicans have nothing factual to offer up as a challenge to the quotes that Jay provided so they whine. Same old story.

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jamvet,
you describe the current democratic president to a T…..nice job and i’m glad you finally are opening your eyes to who obama actually is…..guess you are actually listening to his words at this point…..

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They BOTH suck
May 7th, 2012
6:12 pm

Fresh Prince

See those numbers aren’t so easy to back up….

Try Google, Bing or Yahoo next time

I googled, you might want to try something other than Mad Magazine or the Enquirer..

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Matti

May 7th, 2012
5:59 pm
Stop hogging all the pity, Dude!!
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Ok Matti, I’ll let you borrow a cup of pity, but I need it back on Saturday. Going to a B-B-Q.

Joking aside, I feel what you are saying.

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It is a shame that so many of you cons are ideologically forced into historical ignorance…

The policies of Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry Truman, who desegregated the military, led more African-Americans to vote for the Democrats. Still, Dwight Eisenhower got 39 percent of the black vote when he ran for re-election in 1956; and Vice President Richard Nixon received 31 percent against the eventual winner, Sen. John F. Kennedy.

So when someone says that blacks don’t vote with their brains, that’s utterly false.

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I worked for Reagan in 1980 & 1984, you again, don’t know what you are talking about. Stick with what you do know.

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Jay

May 7th, 2012
6:01 pm
“Sucks to be a Black independent in America these days.”

yeah, I’m not the most popular man at some of MY family reunions either.
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That’s what sucks.

I love talking to people who see things different than I do. That’s one of the ways you grow as a person.

What I hate is the hostility that sometimes go along with it.

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jay,
so liberals are on the right side of race and everyone else is not…..brilliant deduction there lib….reread you post and notice the second grade logic….
FYI….
who passed the civil right legislation?
who actually penned the magic negro song?
liberal media constantly brand republicans as racist…..try again lib

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“I worked for Reagan in 1980 & 1984, you again, don’t know what you are talking about. Stick with what you do know.”

Did you ever meet N word dropping and top adivsor and RNC man Lee Atwater?

I will admit, he did apologize for his political shenanigans before his death

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Black Americans lean more towards liberal candidates because most major advances that Blacks have achieved has been with the assistance of people who were left of center. Abolitionists were fighting against those who’s more conservative thinking was less receptive to change the status quo, even if they didn’t own slaves themselves.

After the Civil War, Blacks won elections as Republicans with the assistance of Liberal Republicans. They lost those gains when the Liberal Republicans lost power and were being forced out of the party. The gains made in the 1960’s came with the assistance of non-conservative Americans regardless of party affiliation. So, although many Black Americans hold views consistent with modern Conservatives, many follow the path that has been more beneficial to all of us over the course of our history.

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Con/Vet,

I’m frequently the one at social gatherings trying to defuse political tensions, drawing the focus back around to what we have in common, rather than what divides us. The “they WANT us to be divided” speech I offered earlier is a good one for that. Also, I regularly tell my Dad to ZIP IT, even though I agree with most (but not all) of his positions. “DAD! How is that not RUDE? You’re being RUDE! Stop it!” Seriously. I partake joyously of good eats & drinks offered in a social setting. (BBQ!) It ticks me off when people want to ruin it with politickin’.

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taxpayer,
no facts are needed to dispute a leftist liberal’s idea that his political opponents party is not the party of reagan…..it’s his opinion and a couple of quotes don’t make it fact……you libs are slipping

My! How convenient… for you, BillyBob.

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When the liberals win 49 out of 50 states in a national election, they will have something to crow about. Until then, it’s all bull sh*T.

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What’s a matter with throwing incumbents out???

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The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers

May 7th, 2012
6:07 pm
Well put Brocephus, a tangible explanation that other frequent poster are unable to nut up. Now explain please why the lean toward more liberal candidates?
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You didn’t ask me but:

Blacks tend to be more socially conservative than not. But, we also recognize that there are times when gov’t is needed to step in to ensure/protect our human rights. Republicians, IMO, tend to push the mantra that “those days are behind us”.
Democrats, at least on the surface, pay lipservice to giving a flying flip about certain struggles that Blacks had/have to endure.

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“When the liberals win 49 out of 50 states in a national election, they will have something to crow about. Until then, it’s all bull sh*T.”

It is the one with the majority of electoral college votes: period, plain and simple

Bush was glad of that for sure

If that has changed in any way, please fill us in.

Did Reagan get a set of “kinsu” knives or something in that election?

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Georgia

Do not stoop to that poster’s level to make a point

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“Georgia, I’d say that’s much too harsh an assessment.”

Ya think?

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It never ceases to amaze me how our conservative bloggers regularly post no valid counterargument to the thread topic, or they completely ignore it and jump in repeating whatever anti-Obama nonsense they’ve heard that day.

I’d love to be proven wrong, but alas…. it seems not to be…..

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Jay

May 7th, 2012
6:16 pm
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Jay, you are not Black, so you can’t comment on why Blacks vote for liberals.

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Republicans aren’t leaving the Republican party, the party is leaving them by moving to the far right. Unfortunately, too many wingnuts are hanging on, refusing to let go, riding it all the way into absurdity.

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They BOTH suck

May 7th, 2012
6:17 pm
TBG

He really is a cool dude, but when he goes off on some of those conspiracies…. It is a trip to say the least.

I’m sure you have read previous posts on here about both sides being upset about African Americans for Obama, AAs for Bush, etc……….

I’m waiting for him to start “African American for Paul”. No “s” after American because he might be the only one
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“Because liberals fought hard for civil rights.”

And what evidence do you have that conservatives did NOT? Are you prepared to argue that the Christian ministers, for instance, who stood for civil rights would embrace gay marriage, abortions of convenience and the like? Huh?

“Because liberals nominated the first black candidate for president.”

Yeah…and who was the first black Secretary of State? And the second? Did you forget that a number of these same “liberals” demeaned these two as “Uncle Toms”? Or is that an instance of more selective amnesia on your part?

“Because liberals don’t lionize talk-show hosts who broadcast “Barack the Magic Negro.”

Yeah, only talk-show hosts who demean female VP candidates as c**** and worse. There is your war on women for you, Jay. Oh…that’s right…on the same logical grounds that Rice was an Uncle Tom, Palin is not a real woman.

“Because a liberal candidate didn’t choose Philadelphia, Miss., to kick off his presidential campaign with a speech on “states’ rights.”

Puleeasse. Is that all you got? Do you even hear yourself talking?

“Because liberals don’t send emails to each other with pictures of Obama with a bone through his nose.”

Yeah. They do not likewise demonize or demean conservative figures. How much is the cool-aid you are drinking?

So much for what liberals don’t do, Jay. How about some STINKING HONESTY from you about what they have and continue to do that is deplorable? How about acknowledging, for starters, that LBJ was a racist and likely did not pass Civil Rights legislation out of love for n****** (as he was want to call blacks)?

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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/freedomriders/

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Heading home, I’ll catch up then.

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“To your point, that lip service is what gets the vote. When one party basically ignores you while the other talks any game, you tend to go with the one that acknowledges your existence. ”

To borrow from Jay’s stock of metaphors, is that like the drunken husband who, over and over again, says “sorry honey” for years of negligence, broken promises, abuse or the like?

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that is not condescension jay, it’s your democratic elected politicians doing this and a large number of americans falling for it…….there is a distinction, but i don’t expect you to discern it based on the leftist view you parrot here……..you must pause sometimes though, when you realize that the leftist media no longer has free reign on this issue and conservatives can openly talk about race without being stymied by political correctness anymore……..based on many of your posts and articles here, i would say that, between you and me, i’m not the one with the problems regarding race………..you are the one who always brings the connotation of race with the negative slant always pointed at your political opponents……trust me, it speaks volumes

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I guess those Bush tax cuts didn’t trickle their way down to some of the Republicans posting on here given that they’re still whining about how they’re sick and tired of paying taxes. I guess they didn’t get the word on the forms of income available tax free to them under the Bush tax cuts. Too bad. Now they’re about to expire.

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Jam Vet, 6:49,

We could start with Abe Lincoln.

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Jammie’s hero, LBJ, destroyed generations with his “War on Poverty.”

After $5 trillion dollars or more since his ruinous reign, that war is lost, at least for another generation. At best.

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taxpayer,
let me simplify…..quotes are accurate facts, but opinion based on them is not fact…….again, my statement was accurate that jay’s writing is not a fact even if he pen’s some accurate quotes from the past…..

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“We could start with Abe Lincoln.”

Good start…….. With that said would you consider the Republicans who voted for civil rights as the center to left of center Republicans that were at one time more prevalent in the Republican Party? maybe a combination including conservatives?

It surely was for the most part the more center to right of center Democrats who fought against civil rights?

And as you well know the “Southern Strategy” that was implemented in the late 60s and used for 30 plus yrs ran many of those southern Democrats over to the Republican Party.

See: LBJ comments about Dems loosing the south after he signed the legislation as well as the apologies from 2 of the last 3 RNC chairmen in regards to the Southern Strategy and the Republicans efforts to exploit racial tension and stereotypes to garner the white southern vote

I see a two way street. How do you see it?

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taxpayer,
the only whining about taxes is coming from barrack obama who is whining about certain people not paying their fair share while at the same time not defining fair share…..it’s called a political football…..kind of like jay’s column in which he hopes to persuade all of the reagan democrats to stick with obama, you know since today’s gop is not the party of reagan…..wink wink…..that will not work b/c they have already left the democrat party……..

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Towncrier

Nope. It’s like the mall Santa promising you that G.I.Joe with the Kung Fu grip every year and ending up with an empty tree each year.

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LBJ decimated the black family.

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taxpayer,
let me simplify…..quotes are accurate facts, but opinion based on them is not fact…….again, my statement was accurate that jay’s writing is not a fact even if he pen’s some accurate quotes from the past…..

Billybob,

Quotes are indeed actual facts so why don’t you give us some quotes to counter Jay’s actual facts instead of more of your opinion.

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taxpayer,
the only whining about taxes is coming from barrack obama

Billybob,

Clearly, you missed kayaker’s recent post as well as the GOP’s ongoing mantra regarding taxes.

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jam Vet, 7:04,

Mr. Paludan was most certainly a liberal writer whose spin has been looked at through many eyes. From time to time, all of us have thoughts and actions that support both liberal and conservative views. I am sure that Lincoln was not exempt. In 1860, however, he accepted the nomination of the Republican convention to be the Republican candidate for president. However you spin it, he was a solid GOP candidate. I am sure glad he won. We might have been an entirely different country otherwise.

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“Your turn.”

Two reasons: because it was inevitable and for political advantage.

Who worked to get Civil Rights legislation passed in the first place? Eisenhower:

“Civil rights became a critical concern during Eisenhower’s administration. In 1954 the Supreme Court ruled that racial segregation in public schools was unconstitutional, but the decision was not universally accepted. The people of the South resisted, and racial tensions mounted. In 1957 the governor of Arkansas ordered National Guard troops to prevent a group of African-American students from enrolling at an all-white high school in Little Rock. Eisenhower was forced to send federal troops to escort the new students to school. Eisenhower also proposed and signed the Civil Rights Act of 1957, which was intended to guarantee the voting rights of all African Americans. This was the first civil rights legislation to pass since Reconstruction. It was followed by the Civil Rights Act of 1960, which was an attempt to further strengthen voting rights by mandating federal inspection of local voter registration polls.” -ourwhitehouse.org

“The Democratic Senate Majority Leader, Lyndon Baines Johnson from Texas, realized that the bill and its journey through Congress could tear apart his party, whose southern bloc was anti-civil rights and northern members were more pro-civil rights. Southern senators occupied chairs of numerous important committees due to their long seniority. Johnson sent the bill to the judiciary committee, led by Senator James Eastland from Mississippi, who proceeded to change and alter the bill almost beyond recognition. Senator Richard Russell from Georgia had claimed the bill was an example of the Federal government wanting to impose its laws on states. Johnson sought recognition from civil rights advocates for passing the bill, while also receiving recognition from the mostly southern anti-civil rights Democrats for reducing it so much as to kill it.” – Wikipedia

“”…LBJ biographer Robert Caro notes that prior to 1957, Johnson “had never supported civil rights legislation—any civil rights legislation,” including anti-lynching legislation. His private behavior toward blacks was appalling. Robert Parker, LBJ’s longtime black employee and limousine chauffeur, claims that Johsnon blasted him daily with a blizzard of bigoted slurs. And even as LBJ was being praised by liberals for his appointment of Thurgood Marshall to the Supreme Court, behind closed doors LBJ’s cynical brand of “identity politics” became clear. As presidential historian Robert Dallek recounts, LBJ explained his decision to a staff member by saying, “”Son, when I appoint a n*****r to the court, I want everyone to know he’s a n*****.” – Hoover Institution

“”These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.” – Ronald Kessler’s “Inside The White House”

“”I’ll have those n******s voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” — Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One Ronald Kessler’s “Inside The White House” – Ronald Kessler’s “Inside The White House”

Now your turn: do you think he was not racist and political operator and what would you cite as evidence?

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taxpayer,
let me simplify…..quotes are accurate facts, but opinion based on them is not fact…….again, my statement was accurate that jay’s writing is not a fact even if he pen’s some accurate quotes from the past…..

Billybob,

Further, kindly take a moment and scroll through Jay’s post as I have. I note that he signed the post and he spelled his name accurately. What did you note from his own words that you consider to be inaccurate or non-factual, etc. Just curious.

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kayaker

You do know the Parties of today are not the Parties of 40 yrs ago, nevertheless 150 yrs ago, right?

That is good and bad changes for both, but arguing an 1860 platform based on today’s parties is going to be a stretch

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“LBJ decimated the black family”

Only one? Pretty good record I’d say.

Yes but apparently it was THE black family.

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It was called “the southern strategy,” started under Richard M. Nixon in 1968, and described Republican efforts to use race as a wedge issue — on matters such as desegregation and busing — to appeal to white southern voters.

Ken Mehlman, the Republican National Committee chairman, this morning will tell the NAACP national convention in Milwaukee that it was “wrong.”

“By the ’70s and into the ’80s and ’90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out,” Mehlman says in his prepared text. “Some Republicans gave up on winning the African American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong.”

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Suck, 7:17,

Yeah, you are probably right. However, Lincoln, no matter what his leanings politically, was not only the Republican candidate for president but the prime reason why blacks were freed. His amazing vision and persistence held this country together, all be it , rather tenuously. The country as you see it is a result.

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Kayaker @ 7:23

On that we can agree 100%

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Jay

Please look at my 7:20 to see why the program is holding it up.

Thanks

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2 words: Joe Biden

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Our CIA has once again foiled an Al Qaeda bomb plot on board a U.S. airliner on the anniversary of bin Ladins death. The master A.Q. bomb maker has evidently engineered a bomb made from a substance called PETN that has a very small foot print and is non-detectable by metal detectors. It apparently detonates in the suicide bombers underwear but with an upgraded detonating device. The good news is that the C.I.A. was on it the bad news is that Al Qaeda has re-constituted not in Afghanistan but in Yemen. The war against radical Islamic terrorism is far from over.

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Recon @ 7:29

Thanks for that post. Had news on, but wasn’t paying that much attention when they went over the plot

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More proof that this is not Ronald Reagan’s GOP:

And the “left” is not Kennedy’s party !

We have not gone nearly as far right as you have gone left.

If that still scares you ………… too bad.

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“Lincoln didn’t fight the Civil War to free the slaves.”

True meter says: half true. Not at first. But that changed during the course of the war.

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Reagan has a legacy so distorted by the Conservative idolization of him that we may never have a clear picture of the real man behind the television set beyond the elaborate myth now concocted around him. Did he really rid the world of commie scum? Did destroy or save our economy? Check out my portrait of The Gipper and help me figure it out on my artist’s blog at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2011/02/happy-100th-gipper.html with some Cold War Hollywood!

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However you spin it, he was a solid GOP candidate.

And notwithstanding your outrageously foolish claims otherwise, Lincoln was not a conservative.

OK, so far you are sitting on zero.

Can you and your so called conservative friends here give me some names of actual conservatives who fought hard for civil rights?

And extra bonus if they did so in the past fifty years. LOL.

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GEORGIA the NEW MISSISSIPPI

And there’s something wrong with that? Get over your bigotries, prejudices and biases…Mississippi is just e pluribus unum, some things good, some things bad…like some other people you need to get your head out of the sand and see how much things have changed, some for the better, some for the worst, since you looked….

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He would likely be considered “conservative” from a moral point of view.

And yet more made up nonsense…

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josef

Hope things went as well as possible considering the situation you had to deal with

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Recon,

Obama enveloped Jay into his fog of lofty and idealistic rhetoric long ago. I don’t think Jay will ever find his way out of it.

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Reagan would have made a really crappy Democrat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1sGN6J9Tgs

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There is a reason why the Democrats are represented by an ass as their mascot.

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Many Southern States cannot change their voting districts, etc. without Justice Department approval.

That is the last vestige of the “War” and therefore it still goes on.

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Boring

“Both parties suck… KILL THE DONKEYS AND THE ELEPHANTS!!!!”

Can no do…they’re both on the endangered species list…

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And in a blow to gay rights credibility Joe Biden comes out in full support of gay marriage.

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Towncrier

That metaphor is one that I think strikes more to the core of the problem than what people realize. The fact is, the Democratic Party has almost a total lock on the lip service paid to the Black community. They talk a good game about what could/should/has to be done. However, their track record of producing results is not one to broadcast to the world in my opinion. On the opposite side of the spectrum, the GOP doesn’t even make any attempt to hold dialogue with the Black community other than to berate them about something and question their “loyalty” to the Democrats. It’s kinda hard to persuade someone to vote for you while you’re poking them in the eyes and kicking them in the nuts at the same time.

If the GOP actually paid attention, they would see that almost ANY tangible results that actually helps the Black community would do more to get votes than simply offering lip service.

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Here are the “real” accomplishments of Reagan and the RepugNOwecan’ts. “The Disastrous Legacy of Ronald Reagan.”

Hey! It’s got lots of charts and you don’t got to read too much.

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Confused and need an answer :

“Jay says,
NEWSFLASH! The Civil War’s done been over now for 151 years!

….can someone tell me who WON?”

I saw this on a bumper once:

Yankees 1
Rebels 0
Halftime

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Except …………… Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, et al were never even tried and there is a good reason.

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I remember this from MANY years ago: the election is over, let the bitterness pass. I’ll hug your elephant and you kiss my … donkey.
Some things never change & some wars are never over.

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PAUL

How did it go…like I said, I just loves me some Jose Cuervo…I felt like I was right back in Mississippi in 1965…I did get through it with professional integrity intact…

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How ignorant are some folks? 151 years ago would be 1861… Appomattox 1865…I guess, though, in the minds of some it just never happened..

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That was for Sooth – josef

not that you didn’t figure it out.

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“On the opposite side of the spectrum, the GOP doesn’t even make any attempt to hold dialogue with the Black community”

Borocephus,

They tried that. Why should they waste their time anymore with a community that simply doesn’t care to listen? You remember when Bush 1 spoke at the graduation of Morehouse I think it was? The students did various things to show their blatant disdain of the man from turning their backs to closing their eyes feigning sleep to looking at the floor to showing a complete lack of interest in what the man was saying. He might as well have been talking to a brick wall.

And let’s face it. Its a far easier sell to promise people social programs and goodies, preach a culture of victimization, and tell people you will do things on their bahalf that they can’t do for themselves. Contrast that with telling them the alternative which is to preach hard work, accountability, pulling yourself up by the bootstraps, value education much more, stay out of trouble with the law, work your way up from the bottom, etc Try selling that to the hip hop culture and lemme know how it goes.

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Lincoln studied Madison.
Davis studied Jefferson.

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Entertaining history debate ….

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“They tried that. Why should they waste their time anymore with a community that simply doesn’t care to listen?”

More efforts are being made than have been in a long time. No doubt and that is a great thing. ‘

With that said, I don’t believe the last 2 out of 3 RNC Chairmen apologized for ignoring and even polarizing the black community for 30 plus yrs because there wasn’t any truth to it.

Come on TD

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We could always dynamite Stone Mountain and put an end to at least one more reminder of the Civil War. Then, there’s that sunken Civil War vessel in the Savannah River that might keep the fight alive. Too bad for Perdue and Co. if they were hoping to make way for larger Chinese supply ships coming our way.

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Pleasant evening, all -

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josef

I was trying to be subtle.

But you are right about the joining forces to keep the new uppities in check.

Power. Money and or power….. motivates nearly everything.

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josef

I think I know the answer, but will still ask.

Have you read any of Newt’s “history” books?

I have not

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Bro

Did the government check come on so you can get the new wheels and tune up on the Escalade?

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“Contrary to what you believe, it has nothing to do with social programs and sh*t like that.”

Sure brocephus. uh- huh. Whatevuh you say.

“All the Black community wants is to be treated as equal Americans and not something worse than dogsh*t on the bottom of your shoe. Until you and others realize that, you’ll never get it.”

And please show me in what way, shape, or form that black people are treated like dogshyte at the bottom of someone’s shoe? How?

We must be living in 2 different Americas bro because in the America I live in this nation bends over backwards for minorities in the way of affirmative action in jobs, education,etc. and in social spending programs, etc. Please identify for me another nation on earth that does more for its minorities than what the U.S. does for its minorities. This should be real interesting.

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josef @ 8:34

That is too funny. I’ve only know one person to have read any of his books, but he is a Newt man so I wasn’t sure how biased he was when he said they are great “history”……..

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Let’s see,we need to copy the Democrats and sign on to socialism,entitlements,gay rights and marriage,abortion,Islamic laws,take God out of schools, government,everything,cleanse all school textbooks of our real history,accept the lie of evolution, make all illegal immigrants legal,take money that has been earned legally from some and give it to others who do not deserve it,spend money that we borrow and cannot repay and on and on.Is that really the type of American we should be. We would have lost WW II if today’s Democrats had been in power and forced to learn German.

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You just can’t find a good woman like this anymore !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk2232wMXA4

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Brosephus™

May 7th, 2012
8:31 pm
“I’m gonna bow out early. I’ve gotta get some rest if I’m gonna sit on my ass all day waiting on my welfare check to come so that my girlfriend can go roll to Publix in the Caddy with 30″ rims to get some food for all my babies and their mamas…”

I don’t remember saying a damn thing about someone sitting on their ass all day collecting welfare and I damn sure didn’t say anything about caddies, 30 inch rims,babiey mommas, and all that.

Looks like you played the victimization and stereotype card perfectly without any help at all from me or any other con.

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One for you, JamVet

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/576695_407689172587122_113544412001601_1270725_499527834_n.jpg

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They bigots are out in force tonight.
It is however refreshing that they pretty damned blatant about it. Usually they are pretty coy.

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THULSA

Believe it or not, I do sometimes go places that have nothing to do with gay folks…

I was speaking of racial minorities…well, at least in today’s classification, these are a “race.” They don’t seem to think so, but they’re not the ones making that decision…

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accept the lie of evolution

Can you believe it?

Some of these Republican bigots and ignoramuses (hat tip Clarence Darrow) are STILL fighting the Scope Monkey Trial!

89 years down the road!!!

They would be right at home in Turkey. Or maybe Iran…

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Jay, you attribute the “Barack the Magic Negro” to Rush Limbaugh, but either you’re lying to the readers or you’re embarrassingly misinformed. That was the title of an op/ed in the LA Times by a black writer:

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,3391015.story

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InAtl………….. try again

“Barack the Magic Negro”[2] is a song by American political satirist Paul Shanklin who wrote and recorded it for the Rush Limbaugh Show as satire after it was first applied to presidential candidate Obama by movie and culture critic, David Ehrenstein, in a Los Angeles Times op ed column of March 19, 2007. It was played numerous times in 2007 and 2008 by Rush Limbaugh and appeared on the 2008 album We Hate the USA. It is sung by Shanklin to the tune of “Puff, the Magic Dragon”. Shanklin impersonates black activist Al Sharpton, who regretfully sings that white people will vote for Barack Obama for President instead of Sharpton, because Obama is a magical Negro (a term previously popularized by Spike Lee[3]), not a real black man from the “hood”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_the_Magic_Negro

Now what were you saying?

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InAtl

Since you are back peddling at this moment……. I will provide the link of the person who wrote the song

http://www.paulshanklin.com/aboutpaul.html

Your welcome

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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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This calls for the Doobie Bros.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7-BBADPAvE

There is a country song called “Tonight the bottle let me down”

InAtl: A new parody is coming out for you… “Tonight the google let me down”

It happens to the best of us………… it really does

hahahahahahaa

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josef,

Gays don’t go to gay only places? What a shocker. Kinda like I never went to backstreet or club anytime or any other various places to chase dancers in the wee hours of the morning.

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TD

You sure those were not drag queens?

Just messing with you……. Used to have a “friend” who worked at Tattle Tales in the 90s. Been at BackStreets several times to dance and party until the wee hours

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Oh, and should I go hahahahahaha? No, I didn’t think so. That’s really juvenile.

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They both suck,

And as Harry Reid says that magic Negro doesn’t speak with that street dialect- making him one mighty refined negro according to good ole Harry.

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InAtl

It did let me down. let me extend you an apology…………..

I

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TD

I would say Harry was stupid. You have never read anything were I absolved him or any Democrat of racial comments and actions.

I have made sure to say that blame and credit should be applied to both parties………

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InAtl

Do what you must do or not do? I extended you an apology if you haven’t read it already

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Thulsa

Isn’t Harry a Momon?

I’ve been to a straight bar…and it wasn’t I who was doing the chasing…

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TD

I had a buddy of mine who ran track at one of the larger “local” universities in the 80s……… He was with us one night at Back Streets and he was the one flying “solo”.

He got hit on by a BIG DUDE………………… BIG……………..

Steroid taking BIG. My buddy is good size and works out a lot, especially at that time. He got mad and just left. Took a taxi to his apartment in Buckhead

We kid and laugh at him to this day

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Josef,

Yes. Harry is a Mormon. A fact that seems to escape some of the liberals who have been doing some Mormon bashing lately on these blogs. Ironic aint it?

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they both suck,

Well I do remember when Limpballs said something about McNabb and of course they raised hell and published all kinds of quotes. As it turned out several racist quotes attributed to Rush were completely false and had in fact never been uttered by him.

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From the Donna Reed show. Those were the best times. Better cars, better music, and everyone was white! On a Facebook page by a rabid Republican who uses the page to campaign against Obama.

Surrrre—go ahead and tell me that racism is dead.

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It’s not about the chasing,
It’s about the catching.

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they both suck,

Well he was at a gay bar after all. I’ve known a lot of gays. You can’t help but know a lot of them if you hang out with some hotties or pursue them. When they know what you’re about its no issue. They leave you alone and just treat you normally and respectfully. That is a funny story but it seems to me that if he had just told the guy he was there for the womens then it wouldn’t have been an isssue. No reason to get mad over though.

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TD

To be honest, I think the more “fiery” one is the more negative reaction they get. Rush, Oberman, Shultz, Hanitty, etc…..

Rush is the king of day time political / entertainment opinion shows…………… ie he is going to get rocked as the TOP DOG in that industry.
Not saying it is right, but people at the top are the one’s being aimed for…….

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josef:

Did you see that article I sent you the other day about that “Jewish Seal” they found while excavating the first Temple ?

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TD

he had been in there before but never “flying solo”…………….. the drinking among other things had him thinking he was going to be the man amongst the few available women that might have been there

I’m laughing now

We were by the pool tables and he went to the bar to get a drink. We say the guy approach him. He turned to look at us with this look of horror

hahahahahhaah

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Both

Though the days are long gone, back in the day for reasons I never really did understand, it was the so-called straight ones he were trying to knock off a piece..

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“As it turned out several racist quotes attributed to Rush were completely false and had in fact never been uttered by him.”

That happens on both sides of the fence.
People hear something that they think could be true, backs up whichever bias they have and mistake it for fact and then REPEAT it ad nauseum.

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“Jewish Seal” they found while excavating the first Temple ?”

0311/8541, that’s truly amazing. I thought SEALS evolved from Navy UDT. I had no idea they were actually Jewish and began their evolution from the first Temple.

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They both suck,

Raz him tomorrow and let him know that total strangers know of his travails.

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td

i will

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T.D.
I don’t think May Jo would refer to him as a Lion if she were alive today, liberal or otherwise.

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Scout….

Caught that…interesting…

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Looks like the desperation level is beginning to rise.

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Seen the Julia cartoon on the Bozo website? Womb to tomb government supervision. This chick can’t go anywhere without some government program “helping” her along. And the crazy liberals love it. Just what the doctor ordered. That government ring through the nose will get very uncomfortable after awhile, however. Note that Julia only had a facial profile, no face and she was white. The war on women rages on.

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Okay, gotta get my rest..g’night

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0311/8541,

Truly enlightening…”SEALS are made of semi-precious stone”. Is that with or without sun glasses and would that also include Marine Corps Force Recon TAD’d to SEAL teams. SEALS were set in signet rings for convenience.” Was Obama promised a signet ring for his convenience when he green lighted the OBL snuff? You really do come up with informative stuff. Semper Fi.

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Exactly what has been accomplished in Lugar’s last few terms in the U.S. Senate? Not much. It’s time for a clean slate – Republican and Democrat.

Our government was smaller, more efficient, and far more “statesman-like” when the nation was young, and Congressmen sacrificed a few (short) years in public service before returning to the private sector.

Throw the bums out! Bring on term limits.

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TD @ 9:47

Of course I have no idea what occurred or if a crime was committed or not, but I would agree with the “drunk” part.

I think that is what delayed the call to authorities.

How much he tried to save her or didn’t of course I have no idea, but I would bet he was very intoxicated.

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Lukas

Are you prepared to vote for anyone who is not the incumbent?

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Bring on term limits.

Seing as how re-election rates for congress critters is in the 80-90% range, it’s a safe bet that you are talking about other people’s elected representatives and not your own.

But spout on if it makes you feel superior.

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“Thulsa, the accounts I read said that Biden has no problem with same sex marriage, NOT that he is 100 percent for it”

Awww, come on now, lighten up. If you take away his right to exargerate he’ll have nothing left to say.

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getting close to Zulu hour…y’all have a great evening. Taps

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frog, here’s another for his sidekick in crime!

http://tinyurl.com/csydxjt

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“it’s a safe bet that you are talking about other people’s elected representatives and not your own.”

Funny how that works. We all know Congress is effed up. But most of us think its everyone else’s Congressman who is effed up.

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EGADS !

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/u-secretary-state-hillary-rodham-clinton-speaks-during-photo-040359047–finance.html

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Doggone/GA

May 7th, 2012
10:07 pm
“Thulsa, the accounts I read said that Biden has no problem with same sex marriage, NOT that he is 100 percent for it”

Doggone,

You and Gmare missed the point. I don’t care if Biden is not opposed to gay marriage or if he gives it a 100% ringing endoresement. I was making fun of the fact that if he supported it that its bad news for the gay rights movement since its akin to having homey the clown say that he supports your particular position. Except of course that homey the clown has more credibility than Joe Biden.

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Kamchak,

Nope. My Congressman was John Lewis. So I readily admit to my Congressman being effed up.

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Nope.

So, the Thulsa Doom that was disparaging Ted Kennedy earlier was a name-jacker?

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“Whenever you decide to quit thinking with rhetorical talking points and talk real world”.

I think you should take a bit of your own advice bro.

“You obviously wouldn’t understand sarcasm if it bit you in the ass.”

That’s funny. I’ve got a pretty good bit of dry humor or so I’m told. SUre didn’t seem like sarcasm to me. Nevertheless we’ll just say that it was.

“Have a good evening, and I’ll pray for your soul because it appears that you obviously need it.”

I’ll say one for you to since I believe you also need a dose of prayer. And I’ll especially pray that you get that effing chip off your shoulder.

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“Where is the inconsistency in saying that Ted Kennedy sucked as a Congressman and also that my own Congressman also sucked?”

hahahaha

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I’ve got a pretty good bit of dry humor or so I’m told.

I’ve been told that I am a lock to win the Oscar for best actor.

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I’ve got a pretty good bit of dry humor or so I’m told.

I can make The Most Interesting Man in the World cry like an 8 year old girl, or so I’m told.

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I WISH my congressman was still John Lewis. Mine is now Gingrey. He and our senators are SERIOUS right wing crazies.

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Kamchak, I love you .

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Brocephusm

Seems to me that you started off with the insulting and the cursing. You made a post full of rhetoric about being stepped on like gum under a shoe. I simply asked you a realistic question as to why or how you view things that way and now you become all unhinged.

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Okay, 0311, I don’t know if fruit of the boom is original with you, but that is really funny.

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Doom

Seems as though you conveniently forget that I was responding to something you posted when I “started” things.

And let’s face it. Its a far easier sell to promise people social programs and goodies, preach a culture of victimization, and tell people you will do things on their bahalf that they can’t do for themselves. Contrast that with telling them the alternative which is to preach hard work, accountability, pulling yourself up by the bootstraps, value education much more, stay out of trouble with the law, work your way up from the bottom, etc Try selling that to the hip hop culture and lemme know how it goes.

Now tell me again how I started with the rhetoric crap?

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Bro,

What you view as rhetoric I view as the real reason as to why Republican values don’t sell to the black community and Democratic values do. The fact that you don’t like it is why you call it rhetoric. Now let me show you some real rhetoric with some cursing thrown in for good measure.

“If you wanna b*tch about Blacks voting Democratic 9 out of 10 times, then you face two choices. Either shut up about that sh*t or do something to change it.
Contrary to what you believe, it has nothing to do with social programs and sh*t like that. It’s also not about preaching about hard work and sh*t like that. All the Black community wants is to be treated as equal Americans and not something worse than dogsh*t on the bottom of your shoe. Until you and others realize that, you’ll never get it.”

All I wanted to then know was for you to back up your statement that black Americans are treated worse than dogshyte on the bottom of a shoe. You could say that 200 years ago. You could even say it 50 years ago. You cant say that today given the level of social program spending and affirmative action that we provide. I asked a serious question. What country in the world bends over backwards to help minorities in their country more than the level to which the U.S. tries to help minorities, blacks in particular, in this country through affirmative action, private charity, and social program spending?

Rather than have a substantive debate you would rather start talking some nonsense about cadillacs and 30 inch rims huh?

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“Oh Towncrier”

You probably should keep to you own business, Paul, and let Jay fend for himself (since you apparently didn’t have anything to add to the conversation). Whadda ya think?

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More crying to come Jay as the Dem,s get their ass kicked come December,I love it,you reep what you sew!,this sly little man does nothing but cause people to work against each other,worst “Prez” I have ever witnessed in my lifetime.

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Doom, Can we just be honest? “Minorities” only applies to blacks as the black community doesn’t give a crap about any other minority. There are no groups of Haitian imigrants demanding their “minority” rights. There’s no Jesse Jacksoniskie demading rights for Polish immigrants. No Wang Sharpton demanding rights for Korean immigrants. It’s all about blacks, so lets stop pretending “minorities” means anything more than “blacks” and just call it what it is.

BTW, the Polish and Korean immigrants are part of the group doing the jobs Americans won’t do. That 7 to 7 shift at the dry cleaner 6 days a week ain’t getting done by Jaquanda. Whine if you want, but unless you’re lying to yourself, you know it’s true.

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“If the GOP actually paid attention, they would see that almost ANY tangible results that actually helps the Black community would do more to get votes than simply offering lip service.”

You may be right, Brosephus – especially in view of Steele’s statements. I hope they test your theory.

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“And what makes you think the US is bending over backwards to help minorities, Blacks in particular? Just because we give people SNAP? TANF? We’ve been over the numbers before. There are more Whites on welfare than Blacks, and before you go switching to percentages, the taxpayer spends more on Whites on welfare than they do on Blacks. So, depending on your perspective, there is no appearance that the US is doing anything special to help Blacks in that area.”

I think what you may want to conclude in all of this (as I have), Brosephus, is that the federal government is not particularly good at “helping” anyone. The best sort of help for individuals comes from individuals.

“Lets go to education. The current trend in education is privatization and charter schools. Sounds fine and good, but those who can’t get in those schools are left in schools that rival 2nd world schools. We’ve been cutting education budgets for primary and secondary schools. For colleges, costs are increasing much faster than wages which makes it harder for lower income kids to get into college.”

Let’s do, since I happen to know more than a little about this subject. The DOE and government run schools in general are a huge part of the problem. Where in the world did anyone get the idea that teaching classes of up to 35 students at a time five or six times a week is acceptable? Yes, they will say, but we need more money. No, I reply, you need to use the money you receive much more efficiently – as in making personnel a much higher priority than new buildings everywhere. How about converting an old mall into a new school if you need it, reducing class sizes to 15-20 students and paying more to attract and keep good teachers? I could go on and on, but it is wearisome to do so.

“Wanna go to employment, then let’s hit that one next. Mandatory sentencing guidelines through the 80’s and 90’s has left many a Black, males in particular, with criminal records. Criminal records make it harder to get past background checks when applying for jobs. Compound that with the growth of privately operated prisons, and there was an industry that thrived on people being locked up.”

I would contend that this is government at work once more. How about giving prisoners on good behavior opportunities to voluntarily work at supervised jobs for a low wage so they can acquire job skills, save money for when they get out and maybe contacts that will help them get a job. No, instead, they pack people into prisons like sardines with nothing constructive to do but lift weights, watch television and be in a gang. If wisdom is proved right by her children, then folly is proved wrong by hers as well.

In my opinion, Brosephus, it is the folly of government that is to blame for much of the plight of blacks in America. We need some really different and fresh ideas advanced to solve these problems.

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Towncrier, the black community is suffering miserably from a lack of leadership. The current cast of characters with Jesse as a good example are doing little more than making excuses for failure and blaming others. When Jesse and co. have a rally in downtown anywhere extoling the need, in fact demanding, for black youths to get an education and develop a marketable skill, he’ll have some credibility. Until the 44% graduation rate becomes more important to him than whether or not Trayvon or Zimmerman threw the first punch, nothing is going to change for the hundreds of thousands of black children who have no means of feeding themselves beyond WIC.

BTW, I don’t recall Jesse having any comment about the APS teachers and aministrators cheating the education system for bonus money. Did I miss it or is that not an issue important to the vastly black APS students?

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Gtg…gn all.

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