More proof that this is not Ronald Reagan’s GOP

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“The Republican Party, both in this state and nationally, is a broad party. There is room in our tent for many views; indeed, the divergence of views is one of our strengths…

Within our tent, there will be many arguments and divisions over approach and method and even those we choose to implement our philosophy. Seldom, if ever, will we raise a cheer signifying unanimous approval of the decisions reached. But if our philosophy is to prevail, we must at least pledge unified support of the ultimate decision. Unity does not require unanimity of thought.”

– Gov. Ronald Reagan,
in a 1967 speech to California Republicans

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People Arnold Schwarzenegger

“In the current climate, the extreme right wing of the party is targeting anyone who doesn’t meet its strict criteria. Its new and narrow litmus test for party membership doesn’t allow compromise….

It’s time for the Republicans who are so bent on enforcing conformity to ask themselves a question: What would Ronald Reagan have done? He worked hard to maintain a welcoming, open and diverse Republican Party. …

We need to remind the Republicans who want to enforce ideological purity that if they succeed, they will undo Reagan’s work to create an inclusive party that could fit many different views.”

– Former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger
in an op-ed in the Los Angeles Times

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“And that’s why the RINOs like Lugar and Hatch have to go. The GOP cannot offer a credible alternative to the destructive hate and social division of the Democrats — the party, let us remember, of slavery, segregation, secularism and sedition — unless it cleans out its own Augean stables first, removes the collaborationists and rejects “bipartisanship” as an absolute good in itself, instead of an occasional, pragmatic means to an end.”

– Michael Walsh,
in an overwrought column in National Review

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John Danforth

John Danforth

“If Dick Lugar, having served five terms in the U.S. Senate and being the most respected person in the Senate and the leading authority on foreign policy, is seriously challenged by anybody in the Republican Party, we have gone so far overboard that we are beyond redemption.”

– John C. Danforth, three-term Republican senator from Missouri and former ambassador to the United Nations under President George W. Bush.

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“A new poll shows Treasurer Richard Mourdock building a commanding lead over Sen. Richard Lugar.

The Howey/DePauw Indiana Battleground Poll, conducted by two prominent Republican and Democratic pollsters, shows Mourdock with a 48 percent to 38 percent lead over Lugar.

Voters will decide the fate of Lugar, a six-term incumbent, in Tuesday’s primary election. And today Lugar pleaded with all those he has helped in his career, no matter what their political party, to step up and salvage his.

“Every person in Indiana who wants me to continue, every person wherever they might be at this point, I encourage them to come out,” he said. “Come out immediately, as fast as you can.”

The poll’s 10 percentage point deficit for him, Lugar said, is not surprising given the millions of dollars spent by groups that oppose him. Those include the anti-tax Club for Growth and the tea party group FreedomWorks. There has been no similar response from the groups he has helped over the years, he said. He cited farmers, veterans, minorities, students, Jews and others as he appealed for help.

– The Indianapolis Star

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– Jay Bookman

523 comments Add your comment

HDB

May 7th, 2012
3:52 pm

The GOP started changing in 1964…and they haven’t looked back since!! Between xenophobia, racism, sexism….if you ain’t straight and white…you ain’t right!!

JamVet

May 7th, 2012
3:53 pm

Let’s see how the zealots spin this one…

Louis Wilann

May 7th, 2012
3:53 pm

So when you’re implying that Ronald Reagan’s statement “we must at least pledge unified support of the ultimate decision” is not being heeded, you’re talking about Lugar’s refusal to commit to supporting Mourdock if Mourdock happens to win, despite the fact that Mourdock has pledged his support to Lugar should Lugar win? Is that what you’re saying?

East Lake Ira

May 7th, 2012
3:54 pm

The GOP offers nothing to anyone if they believe in facts and/or science.

Scary.

Adam

May 7th, 2012
3:55 pm

Seldom, if ever, will we raise a cheer signifying unanimous approval of the decisions reached

Definitely NOT what is going on in Congress.

Louis Wilann

May 7th, 2012
3:57 pm

East Lake Ira:
Richard Mourdock is a geologist. He will be one of the few scientists in either house of congress.

TaxPayer

May 7th, 2012
3:58 pm

Clearly, the problem with these assessments of Reagan is that they fail to take into account right wingnut inflation since Reagan’s time. Once you add on an average shift farther right per year of 5%, you easily reach the current level of right wingnuttery relative to the Reagan baseline of 100% right wingnut.

JamVet

May 7th, 2012
4:05 pm

Richard Mourdock is a geologist.

Lemme guess. He’s a believer in the Rick Perry theory of global cooling and that Darwin’s theory of natural selection is nonsense

Thulsa Doom

May 7th, 2012
4:07 pm

“The GOP started changing in 1964…and they haven’t looked back since!! Between xenophobia, racism, sexism….if you ain’t straight and white…you ain’t right!!”

Once again we have to dispel HDB and her usual race card.

A higher % of Rs than Ds voted for the Civil rights act of 1964 and the voting rights act of 1965. FACT.

It was also Rs whose “philadelphia Plan” in the 1970s sought to break the construction unions racial barriers that kept blacks out of skilled trades.

HDDB don’t let the facts get in the way of your hate.

Louis Wilann

May 7th, 2012
4:08 pm

Try to stay objective.

Adam

May 7th, 2012
4:10 pm

Thulsa Doom: A higher % of Rs than Ds voted for the Civil rights act of 1964 and the voting rights act of 1965. FACT.

It was also Rs whose “philadelphia Plan” in the 1970s sought to break the construction unions racial barriers that kept blacks out of skilled trades.

And what are they doing NOW to improve race relations? And please, don’t say something that indicates there’s no longer a race problem. That’ll get you a nice big facepalm.

pogo

May 7th, 2012
4:11 pm

God, you ARE getting desperate Jay. Why don’t you talk about the demise of the Centrist Democrats in Congress? They are becoming exitinct and many of them that are not even seeking re-election because the Democrat party has becom so extreme. You don’t bother to mention that do you Jay? You can title the piece “More proof that these are not Bill Clinton’s Democrats”. Man, you are so far gone it is pitiful. You won’t even acknowledge that your own party has become radical so who in the hell are you to say that another party has?

Zebra

May 7th, 2012
4:11 pm

Thulsa Doom-No mention of Nixon’s Southern Strategy huh?. No surprise there. No mention of Ronnie kicking off his campaign in Philadelphia, Miss. or the Bob Jones stops. I can’t believe every black person isn’t a died-in-the-wool wingnut to hear you tell it.

Uh Oh

May 7th, 2012
4:13 pm

“There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God’s name on one’s behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in ‘A,’ ‘B,’ ‘C,’ and ‘D.’ Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of ‘conservatism.’ ”
(1909-1998) US Senator (R-Arizona) Source: Congressional Record, September 16, 1981

Ayn Rant

May 7th, 2012
4:13 pm

The history of the 21st Century Republican Party in one paragraph: segregationist Southern Democrats split from the Democrat Party to become Dixiecrats; one-by-one, they turn coat again to become Republicans; then, they take control of the conventional Republican Party; finally, they divide our country into red and blue states, roughly corresponding to the geographic and ideological lines of 1860-1865.

Common Sense

May 7th, 2012
4:13 pm

There’s a serious difference between including people of different philosophical beliefs and including people that are different than you because of other characteristics.

There no desire to have socialists or progressives or marxists within the Republican Party. That’s what the Democratic Party is for.

JamVet

May 7th, 2012
4:14 pm

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

May 7th, 2012
4:15 pm

Oh the horror! Oh the weeping and gnashing of teeth!

The GOP seems to have gone through the “change”.

A change a little wine and pamprin can’t fix.

Y’all are just crackin’ me up today!

Uh Oh

May 7th, 2012
4:17 pm

Goldwater

“I believe in separation of church and state,”

“A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means. They think I’ve turned liberal because I believe a woman has a right to an abortion. That’s a decision that’s up to the pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious Right.”

There is no place in this country for practicing religion in politics. That goes for Falwell, Robertson and all the rest of these political preachers. They are a detriment to the country.”

“When you say ‘radical right’ today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye.”

Jay

May 7th, 2012
4:18 pm

So Pogo, other than Democrats who have been forced to run against each other because of redistricting, please list races in which liberal Dems have targeted more moderate Dems for extinction as part of an ideological purging.

Please instruct us in how DINO is used just as often among Democrats as RINO is among Republicans.

Please list the Democrats targeted for primary challenges because they have been too willing — meaning, they are willing to even consider the idea — of compromise with Republicans.

Tommy Maddox

May 7th, 2012
4:19 pm

“The GOP offers nothing to anyone if they believe in facts and/or science.”

But the Liberals offer you a free weekly pay check and lots of other monetary goodies…

Jm

May 7th, 2012
4:20 pm

Proof that this is not Bill Clinton’s Demicratic Party: Obama and trillion dollar deficits

Recon 0311 2533

May 7th, 2012
4:20 pm

GT

May 7th, 2012
4:21 pm

Principals helping students cheat, eats away at me. We are an America where the ends equal the means. Politicians waving fingers at baseball players when they have an Augean stable 30 years in the making themselves, is the stuff we are writing our legacies on. We are not Godly people as we portray ourselves, we are people who have lost our way, who must think we have no higher power to answer to anymore and honesty is no longer our master. It is the appearance of honesty, the look of talent over substance that is leading the masses. Marriage is barely a piece of paper, children are less and less the product of a family environment and begin their lives that way. It is not the enforced ideological, purity no one is pure in the Mongolian bred, it is the appearance of purity, like that of Hitler, that green lights the immorality of the Republican Party. I offer Newt as exhibit A, Cane as exhibit B, the state Republican Party as exhibit C through Z. Ralph Reed to round it off. Every sin is forgiven not by God but by the Repubican party, if it gets the party where they want to go.

JamVet

May 7th, 2012
4:22 pm

The above damning figure is perspective.

Out of fifty Republicans in a room, one will be black.

One.

And watch carefully at the GOP Convention in Tampa latter this year.

This is not exactly newsworthy, but the Lily White Party has a big “Tent problem”!

Zebra

May 7th, 2012
4:22 pm

In 2005, Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized for his party’s use of the Southern Strategy in the previous century.

This from the party of truth, goodness and light.

Jefferson

May 7th, 2012
4:23 pm

The GOP track record is bad. This is fact.

Jay

May 7th, 2012
4:23 pm

Also, Pogo, find me a column in a mainstream liberal opinion mag as overwrought and frankly wacko as that National Review piece cited above. It reads like something you’d read in a cult.

Jm

May 7th, 2012
4:26 pm

Should have written “demicritic party”, not “demicratic” :)

Peadawg

May 7th, 2012
4:26 pm

“Proof that this is not Bill Clinton’s Demicratic Party: Obama and trillion dollar deficits”

You forgot tax cut extensions and staying in Afghanistan waaay longer than we should.

josef

May 7th, 2012
4:26 pm

ZEBRA

Who’s the mayor of Philadelphia, Mississippi? Or are you still stuck in the 1960s yourself? What do you know of that little political event that Reagan went to, the Neshoba County Fair…just doing my EOI duties…

I'm a "con" and a vet. STOP SPITTING ON ME!!! (That Black Guy)

May 7th, 2012
4:27 pm

JamVet

May 7th, 2012
4:14 pm
Black representation in the GOP – 2%.
Black representation in the Democratic Party – 19%
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Does it say anything about Blacks who are not a member of EITHER party? (I’m at work, so the link won’t open)

Jm

May 7th, 2012
4:28 pm

Obama track record is bad

SoGaVet

May 7th, 2012
4:28 pm

As much as one hates to see a moderate like Luger go (although he votes lock-step like the rest of ‘em), could it be that he’s been there 6 terms – 36 years? Just sayin’.

Mary Elizabeth

May 7th, 2012
4:30 pm

Don’t kid yourself. Ronald Reagan kicked off his bid for the presidency in Philadelphia, Mississippi, the home of the murders of three young Civil Rights workers. Reagan said at that time that he supported, “State Rights” – which was code for independence from federal government intervention.

ALEC started its assault on any government intervention into private markets in the mid 1970s, using stealthy tactics, that have only recently emerged into the public’s awareness. Where the Republican Party stands today – with its extreme ideological private market purity and no tax agenda -has been decades in the making. Part of the original impetus for that movement included Reagan’s domestic policies regarding the dominance of the private marketplace within the American landscape.

These rightwing, conservative views have contrasted sharply with those of JFK, Robert Kennedy, Edward Kennedy, LBJ – and certainly those of FDR – in which government has been viewed as essentially beneficial to its citizens.

What a battle ground. The effect has been devastating. Balance must return. We need private markets AND governmental regulations and services, such as public education and transportation. We need to cut spending AND to raise revenue. We need to stop the polarization of generalized thinking.

Below is a link which demonstrates one example of the extremes to which ALEC has gone in its ideological agenda – that of dismantling public “government” education for private market-based and for-profit education. Education is only one area of the “American landscape” that has been long losing balance, as a result of this extreme rightwing libertarian ideological agenda, and its damaging propaganda which has been spread across our nation.

http://www.educationvotes.nea.org/2012/05/03/alec-puts-its-fangs-to-education/

Jay

May 7th, 2012
4:30 pm

So Josef, your theory is that Reagan just accidentally picked that tiny town in Mississippi to kick off his 1980 campaign with a speech on states’ rights?

Purely coincidental, out of all the little towns in the entire country, that he picked that burg with that message?

You don’t truly believe that.

Jm

May 7th, 2012
4:30 pm

Peadawg true dat

Btw, democratic party was the Klan party up until only recently

Adam

May 7th, 2012
4:30 pm

Crap, gotta go! See ya!

Paul

May 7th, 2012
4:31 pm

Just once I’d like to read the first couple of pages of comments and find a well-reasoned, on point, factual basis to something Jay wrote.

But if all one has to draw upon are sound bites, slogans and misleading responses lifted from others, I suppose it’s not surprising.

Jay

Diane Rehm show today. ‘Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein: “It’s Even Worse Than It Looks”

“Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein join Diane to talk about their new book and why they think Congress has become more partisan and dysfunctional than at any other time in history.”

Addresses what you wrote about. I don’t believe the transcript is up but the audio’s available. Maybe on your ride home?

http://thedianerehmshow.org/

Paul

May 7th, 2012
4:32 pm

Correction:

“Just once I’d like to read the first couple of pages of comments and find a well-reasoned, on point, REFUTATION based in fact to something Jay wrote.

Recon 0311 2533

May 7th, 2012
4:32 pm

Romney has closed the wide swing state gap favoring Obama in March. Believing that there isn’t significant concern within Obama’s campaign would be a false belief.

carlosgvv

May 7th, 2012
4:33 pm

If Republican politicians are following the strict criteria of their right wing, it is on orders of their corporate sponsors.

Zebra

May 7th, 2012
4:33 pm

josef -Reagan kicked off his campaign there but no doubt his motives were just as pure as the driven snow. The 3 people killed near there were just an unfortunate coincidence.

josef

May 7th, 2012
4:34 pm

JAY

Not at all. That particular little trick pissed me off big time, along with his speech there…the point I am trying to make is that folks still keep throwing Philadelphia out there as some symbolic thing of a past time and pay no attention whatsoever to just what that little mudhole has accomplished since that time…Reagan or Zebra or ME, all peas in a pod…

And, well, you should know what the Neshoba County Fair is, and if not, check it out..

Like I said, Reagan’s speech there pissed me off big time

josef

May 7th, 2012
4:35 pm

ZEBRA

And like I said, you and Reagan are peas in a pod…what DO you know about what Philadelphia has accomplished since then?

JamVet

May 7th, 2012
4:35 pm

and lots of other monetary goodies…

You mean like Baxter International and their $210,000,000 in Georgia giveaway goodies?

As of 2010 there are at least 26 moderate Democrats in Congress out of 244. (11%)

Not many, tis true.

But can someone name even 6 moderate Republicans out of 289?

ByteMe - Political thug

May 7th, 2012
4:38 pm

Here’s how far off the deep end the R’s have become:

Barry Goldwater — the wackiest of wack job R’s — was married to the founder of Planned Parenthood of Northern Arizona.

And if he were to run for President today… he’d never get close just because of how much today’s Republicans hate women’s health issues.

JamVet

May 7th, 2012
4:40 pm

“Btw, democratic party was the Klan party up until only recently”

And no matter which irrelevant letter – D or R – that you boobs try to connect it to, they have always been, are now and will forever be home to ARCH-CONSERVATIVES and not liberals.

Own it, sons of cross burners…

Zebra

May 7th, 2012
4:43 pm

josef – I hope things are great there and continue to be, (I have faith in our Southland’s future) but nothing will change what Reagan did there in 1980 and more importantly why he chose that particular place.

Don't Tread

May 7th, 2012
4:45 pm

Lugar needs to go. I’m hoping he loses, badly.

He can always run as the Democrat, though – he votes like one.

Mary Elizabeth

May 7th, 2012
4:46 pm

Reagan needed the Southern vote to win the presidency in 1980. The ideological impetus Reagan was attempting to build in 1980 still has dominance in the South, and parts of the West, today.

The discussion should not center on the past – it should center on the future. However, where Reagan’s politics positioned itself, literally, in 1980 showed the direction our nation would be taking for the next 30 years. It has been a regressive direction. Time to move “forward” again. And that word, with all of the positive connotations it brings, should be supported by all.

Thomas Heyward Jr.@windstream.net

May 7th, 2012
4:47 pm

AUGUSTA — The second day of the Maine Republican State Convention is coming to an end, but the controversy continues.

It isn’t the rubugnents against moderates in the GOP party.
Its progressive statists against those who love freedom………And it isn’t limited to the Repuglican party either.
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Along with FIVE other states—————————————————-

Organizers at the Augusta Civic Center on Sunday said presidential candidate Ron Paul has won 22 state delegates that will go to the national GOP convention in Tampa, Fla., and fellow candidate Mitt Romney has won zero.

The results were based on voting Saturday night and Sunday.
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You silly statists who crave an Uncle Sam Father Figure……………..Good Luck!
The Revolution Lives.

pogo

May 7th, 2012
4:47 pm

First of all Jay, I don’t read mainstream liberal opinion mags, but not for the reason you would like to believe. It isn’t because I don’t want to, it is because I don’t have the time. I do read the Washington Post, the New York Times and the LA Times and I guess these could be considered mainstream liberal “rags” (just as the AJC is). I always want to know what the other side is up to but now, you liberals have become very predictable and it isn’t difficult to see what you believe.

The “Super Committee” is a prime example of the extremism that exist in the Democrats. It was supposed to be comprised of a group of politicians from both sides who could put politics aside and achieve grand things for our country’s economic “condition” because of their “centricism” and their history as people who could get things done, wasn’t it? But in the end, the extremism of Kerry and others derailed that effort totally.

My point to you is that you are so blinded you can’t recognize the extremism in your own party. You have never written one piece critical of Obama. Never and that is scary unto itself. That should make the alarm go off in any thinking persons (much less a journalists) mind. The party of Reid and Pelosi has abosutely no right at all to claim that the Republicans have all become extrimists because they have driven the democrats into a corral wherein if you are not with them, then you are out and you lose the dollars. During the healthcare debate the centrist democrats that were against it were pretty much either bribed or they were threatened by their own party and they were whipped into submission (according to their tenure and status in the party).

InAtl

May 7th, 2012
4:47 pm

I don’t suppose you want to address Zell Miller’s opinion of the current democrat party. You know, the party that “left him”?

josef

May 7th, 2012
4:48 pm

ZEBRA
I am not at all trying to “change” what Reagan did there in 1980…it was a cheap, low-down and sorry act playing on the town’s tragic history and did nothing positive except slap Philadelphia in the face one more time. And for the record, we cracked a bottle of that fine wine saved to toast his passage to the great beyond. One of the few people whose deaths didn’t pain me.

The point is, and no body seems to give a sh*t when they go throwing out Philadelphia the way they do, is the town, predominantly white, elected a black mayor. Isn’t that MORE symbolic? I think it is.

Matti

May 7th, 2012
4:48 pm

Y’all DO understand that the people who really run the world ($$$$) don’t change with our silly little elections, right? They OWN our executive office and whomever we allegedly elect, either before election day, or five minutes after. The real power on the planet changes little, and does not care one whit about your health care needs, personal dignity, or civil rights. All the frenzied issues of the day are distractions — something to keep us at each other’s throats instead of paying attention to what’s really happening.

If you want some semblance of control over your environment, you’d do better to run for President of your HOA and begin finding ways to bribe your City Council members.

JamVet

May 7th, 2012
4:48 pm

I am hard pressed to believe that white Republicans have had much to do with the gains made in Philadelphia (population 7,477)…

In May 2009, Philadelphia elected its first black mayor, James A. Young, a 53-year-old Pentecostal preacher and a former county supervisor. He defeated Rayburn Waddell, a white, three-term incumbent, by 46 votes in the Democratic primary.

There was no Republican challenger.

Jim Prince, publisher of the local The Neshoba Democrat newspaper said, “Philadelphia will always be connected to what happened here in 1964, but the fact that Philadelphia, Mississippi, with its notorious past, could elect a black man as mayor, it might be time to quit picking on Philadelphia, Mississippi.”

Young’s campaign staff credited Barack Obama’s presidential campaign for increasing registration of black and young voters in Philadelphia, many of whom voted for Young. Young’s term began July 3, 2009.

Can someone tell me otherwise?

josef

May 7th, 2012
4:49 pm

ME

Then move on, Sister…Philadelphia has…

Uh Oh

May 7th, 2012
4:49 pm

“you liberals have become very predictable and it isn’t difficult to see what you believe. ”

Looked in the mirror lately

Thulsa Doom

May 7th, 2012
4:50 pm

And what are the Dems doing NOW to improve race relations?- typo correction

I dunno Adam. You tell me.

Paul

May 7th, 2012
4:50 pm

Don’t tread

“Lugar needs to go. I’m hoping he loses, badly.

He can always run as the Democrat, though – he votes like one.”

If I read you correctly, you disagree with Reagan and agree with Danforth.

Jay

May 7th, 2012
4:50 pm

In other words, Pogo, you got nothing to back up your claim. It was a childish “oh yeah, well so do you!!” without basis in fact or reality.

Jm

May 7th, 2012
4:50 pm

Paul 4:31

Liberals don’t listen to well reasoned points. So theres no point in bothering.

InAtl

May 7th, 2012
4:50 pm

Further, a quote about Zell’s book, “A National Party No More”:

With the growl of the Marine sergeant he was, Senator Zell Miller leaves no doubt that he believes his own Democratic Party is badly out of step with most of the country and needs to shape up or ship out.

As part of a stinging critique of the Democratic Party, Miller outlines key positions on important issues that can again make the party relevant for the entire nation. From tax cuts to welfare, gun control to the environment, the arts to education, immigration to terrorism, Miller identifies values that make sense to a growing majority of Americans.

Miller’s candid analysis of the campaigns of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton further underscores his conclusion that the Democratic Party can no longer field a serious presidential challenge.

Recon 0311 2533

May 7th, 2012
4:51 pm

pogo, good post.

Thomas Heyward Jr.@windstream.net

May 7th, 2012
4:52 pm

I can understand a woman’s proclivity to accept the mentality of slavery.
I don’t think I will evah understand a man’s ability to accept it. It has to have something to do with playing soccer and not smoking cigarettes……….and wearing make-up.
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In the initial stages of nearly every recorded tyranny, the saucer eyed dumbstruck masses exhibit astonishing and masterful skill when denying reality. The facts behind their dire circumstances and of their antagonistic government become a source of cynical psychological gameplay rather than a source of legitimate concern. Their desperate need to maintain their normalcy bias creates a memory and observation vacuum in which all that runs counter to their false assumptions and preconceptions disappears forever. It is as if they truly cannot see the color of the sky, or the boot on their face. The concrete world of truth becomes a dream, an illusion that can be heeded or completely ignored depending on one’s mood. For them, life is a constant struggle of dissociation, where the tangible is NOT welcome…

Don't Tread

May 7th, 2012
4:55 pm

Pogo…I think you’ve confused Jay with a journalist.

Thomas Heyward Jr.@windstream.net

May 7th, 2012
4:55 pm

yessah–master————–can I have another?
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The True Slave: The true slave is not a person who has been shackled, beaten, tortured, and made to comply under threat of death. As long as that poor soul has the spirit of rebellion and is ever seeking freedom, they are not imprisoned fully. The true slave is a person who enjoys their subservience, who is weighted with fear by the very idea of independence from the system, and who would actually fight and die to maintain the establishment which enslaves them. The true slave is not able to imagine living any other life beyond his micro-managed existence.

I'm a "con" and a vet. STOP SPITTING ON ME!!! (That Black Guy)

May 7th, 2012
4:56 pm

Matti

May 7th, 2012
4:48 pm
Y’all DO understand that the people who really run the world ($$$$) don’t change with our silly little elections, right? They OWN our executive office and whomever we allegedly elect, either before election day, or five minutes after. The real power on the planet changes little, and does not care one whit about your health care needs, personal dignity, or civil rights. All the frenzied issues of the day are distractions — something to keep us at each other’s throats instead of paying attention to what’s really happening.
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Matti, this is a great BIG digital “high 5″ for that post.

I have been saying this for years.

The money is keeping us at each others throats and fostering distrust.

Ever notice, no matter what party is in charge, the same people connected to gov’t keep making more and more money?

Towncrier

May 7th, 2012
4:56 pm

“You have never written one piece critical of Obama. Never and that is scary unto itself. That should make the alarm go off in any thinking persons (much less a journalists) mind. ”

It should. It does me. It smacks of dishonesty, though probably less intended than not. I am on record here of conceding (rather than defending) many things Republicans have done. Obama has not proven to me to be anything more than a mediocre (at best) president. We need a lot better at this moment in time. Is Romney going to be a great president? I cannot be sure. But I am betting he will be a sight better than Obama.

Matti

May 7th, 2012
4:57 pm

Mr. Heyward,

Good stuff, but will you please attribute?

JamVet

May 7th, 2012
4:57 pm

InAtl, NO specifics in that reference to Miller?

How is that overview of any value?

And I’m not sure if it is a parody or not, but for him to indict the Democratic Party on the environment seems rather…………………………….. loony.

And this??? After McCain and now Romney??? I believe a compelling argument can be made that the parties have reversed their recently historic roles.

Miller’s candid analysis of the campaigns of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton further underscores his conclusion that the Democratic Party can no longer field a serious presidential challenge.

ragnar danneskjold

May 7th, 2012
4:58 pm

What do the anti-abortion democrats have to say about this sad state of affairs?

The dithering, mushy-mouthed “centrists” will have to decide whether they liked the Stimulus and ObamaCare and the job-killing Dodd-Frank, and “may I have another sir,” or whether they want to elect people with a little fiscal discipline. Some learn slowly, but more are catching on daily.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

May 7th, 2012
4:58 pm

Well, there you go again, throwing off on St. Ronnie Reagan.

Anyhow, you can’t meet in the middle with a bunch of RINOs. If the Gays, Those People, the Illegals and other libruls can have their own party, why can’t us White Conservative people have ours? We took it over fair and square and we ain’t giving it back. We won’t stop till we’ve drowned guvmint in a washtub and made our God the King of this country. And if that Lugar can be beat in the primary we’ll have the Senate as well as the House under our control.

cloudodust

May 7th, 2012
4:58 pm

Last time I looked, today’s GOP unlike today’s DEM party, wasn’t he11-bent on transforming America into a 3rd world country full of sponges. Freedom and opportunity are still the main planks…not divisive class warfare. The DEMS need to get away from that angle cause it’s growing tired…

josef

May 7th, 2012
4:58 pm

DON’T TREAD

“Pogo…I think you’ve confused Jay with a journalist.”

He is a journalist. An opinion writer for a second string provencial daily who runs a first rate blog…and I’m saying this when right now I’m ready to slap him silly,,, :-)

Seriously, though, he’s paid to give his opinion in the media…that is a journalist.

Mary Elizabeth

May 7th, 2012
5:00 pm

josef, 4:49 pm

I have moved well past you and Philadelphia, MS, even as early as the 1950s. You just don’t see it. You, on the other hand, seem to be stuck in Philadelphia, Mississippi. That locale was only a brief dot of my 4:30 pm post and I had read no other posts when I made my remarks. Had no idea anyone else had written of Philadelphia, MS and Reagan. Notice that my 4:30 pm link centered on ALEC.

Time to move on from “Midgets’ Corners” (your description of your own habitat) to the larger world community.

ragnar danneskjold

May 7th, 2012
5:00 pm

A RINO or moderate republican is someone who wishes to compromise with democrats. A conservative is someone who thinks it lunacy to spend a trillion dollars you do not have, on shovel-ready jobs that aren’t, leaving the bills to be paid by future generations.

josef

May 7th, 2012
5:01 pm

Heyward…

You’re as full of sh*t as a Christmas turkey…

JamVet

May 7th, 2012
5:01 pm

Your argument would be stronger, Sinkwich cloudodust, if you were more specific.

Thomas Heyward Jr.@windstream.net

May 7th, 2012
5:02 pm

Caution—-Al Queda is now using “body bombs”.
Do you need to do an anal probe Mr. TSA Agent?..And here is my young daughter to peer at..She MAY be a terrorist.
After all…………its not against the law.—–
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The Obsession With The Law: The slave mentality, though illogical and psychotic, still requires a certain foundation to hold it together. The laws of governments tend to suffice. These laws may go completely against the force of inherent conscience, but because the slave has already abandoned listening to his inner voice of reason, this does not bother him much. If you have ever wondered why modern tyrannies always feel the need to put their horrific enforcements in writing first, THIS is why. Oligarchs understand that the law provides the slave with a means to rationalize his participation in the crimes of the state. After all, if some gut-bloated bloodthirsty elitists in government etch their mad inbred ramblings into law, then we have no choice but to follow them, right?

JamVet

May 7th, 2012
5:02 pm

“A conservative is someone…”

And I stopped reading!

(Just not into made up definitions that much!)

Thomas Heyward Jr.@windstream.net

May 7th, 2012
5:03 pm

The Need To Be Accepted: A slave seeks harmony not within, but without, even when that “harmony” is with a system that is designed to destroy him. The viciousness of collectivism lay in its ability to comfort converts with atrocity. As long as the slave feels as though he is a part of the machine, and accepted by the group, he cares not what the machine does to others.

Mighty Righty

May 7th, 2012
5:03 pm

I guess I am one of those “zealots.” I believe in limited government. I believe in equal rights for all people. (Notice the difference between rights and outcomes.) I could care less what color your skin is or whether you believe in my God, I believe the government should live within it’s means and not borrow money when the nation is not at war or in an emergency that requires desperation. I believe in everyone paying their fair share in taxes. Please note when I say “fair” I think it applies to everyone not just a few “other” people as most of you do. I believe in the inalienable god given rights of the individual. Included in those individual rights are the rights to abortion, and to gay marriage. Hell, you can marry your car or your house plants for all I care. Just don’t make me foot the bill. I believe in the constitution and the way to change it is through admendment as prescribed therein not through judicial fiat. I believe in free enterprise and in the government butting out of our lives and business. I also believe in replacing elected tyrants that don’t believe as I do. As for those of you who prefer to trot along like sheep in the hope of getting some kind of hand out you didn’t pay for and couldn’t earn I have nothing but contempt for you and your moocher comrads.

josef

May 7th, 2012
5:03 pm

ME

Then, pray tell, oh Pious One, why do you feel so obliged as to bring up Philadelphia’s sad, tragic past without mentioning how much it HAS moved on? Probably because you have no idea of what the town has done…it just doesn’t fit your narrow-minded, memo-riddled world view…

Uh Oh

May 7th, 2012
5:06 pm

Ragnar

Didn’t many of the “conservatives” who have voted against the stimulus and have been touting that vote also sneak home your tax money and borrowed money via “earmarks”?

Yes or no

Brosephus™

May 7th, 2012
5:06 pm

Jay

You should put up a warning for major traffic diversions when you post something like this. It’s beginning to get sad to see that your detractors on the right can not formulate a factual point-by-point refutation of things you post without going to the “Johnny did it too!!” defense or simply avoiding your point(s) altogether.

If this country is so center-right as people claim, there should be little to no problem t building a finely articulated dissent to anything you post here.

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Paul

You’re more likely to get struck by lightning while going to claim your record MegaMillions Lottery jackpot while driving your date, Giada De Laurentiis, back to the airport to catch her return flight home after coming to spend a weekend with you before you get what you asked on the first page. :)

A dad

May 7th, 2012
5:06 pm

JamVet – your color charts (pun intended) are not convincing. Unfortunately, blacks who would join the GOP, attempt to advance themselves via education or industry, and don’t buy into the “it’s whitey’s fault” are labeled as “Uncle Tom’s.” I for one have seen time and time again racial taunts thrown as some of my black colleagues for “acting white” in trying to get ahead. Sad state of affairs. Truly sad state of affairs.

Thomas Heyward Jr.@windstream.net

May 7th, 2012
5:07 pm

Finally…a REAL example of irony.
From water-cop snoops, to the knuckle-draggers of the Secret Service or the DHS, to the creeps that want to frisk you at a sports event.
They’re all the same.

The Need For Control: I suppose it’s ironic, but the average slave loves tyranny because it affords him a perceived seat at the table of power, perhaps for the first time in his entire life. Collectivist slaves are often people who have felt weak and inadequate since childhood. While honorable human beings fight this personal uncertainty by strengthening themselves physically and mentally, and improving upon their own character, the slave takes the easy route by joining with bureaucracy and living vicariously through its conquests. Through the state, the hollow, cowardly, and stupid, have the ability to “show the world who’s boss”, and get revenge for a life filled with meaninglessness.

carlosgvv

May 7th, 2012
5:07 pm

The one and only goal of Big Business is to make as much profit as they can. Their goal is to get rid of as many Govt. regulations as possible and return to the days of laissez faire. They know the far-right Republican electorate is mostly composed of uneducated and easily fooled people. So, they ordered Republican politicians to appeal exclusivly to these voters, knowing they will believe anything they are told. Business ultimately wants to pollute with no restrictions and turn out unsafe products with no Govt. inspectors. At the same time, Republican politicians will be ordered to constantly tell their electorate how wonderful Big Business is and how lucky we all are to live in such a free country.

InAtl

May 7th, 2012
5:09 pm

Here you go JamVet: (from the Washington Post)
“Miller, for his part, insists he’s acting out of conscience. “Have you ever seen a 72-year-old man flip-flop?” he demanded. It is the national party that has changed, he insists, by veering left and abandoning its once-loyal conservative southern constituency — although Miller, who chaired the national party’s 1996 platform committee, appears not to have decided this until he arrived in Washington in 2000.

Called out of retirement to finish the unexpired term of Sen. Paul Coverdell (R), who died that summer of a brain hemorrhage, Miller wrote in his book that he found a national Democratic Party run by cultural elites and organized labor. In 2002, he observed, when Republicans swept statewide Georgia races, defeating Gov. Roy Barnes (D) and Sen. Max Cleland (D), no national Democratic leader could campaign in Georgia without doing more harm than good. Miller cut ads defending both Democrats, to no avail.

“If this is a national party, sushi is our national dish,” Miller wrote. While Franklin D. Roosevelt said of the South, “I see one-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clad, ill-nourished,” according to Miller, “Today, our national Democratic leaders look south and say, ‘I see one-third of a nation and it can go to hell.’ ”

Miller said the final straw came after Sept. 11, 2001, when Senate Democratic leaders opposed Republican legislation to create the Department of Homeland Security. Most Democrats, including Cleland, backed an alternative bill with stiffer employee protections. Miller, like President George W. Bush, viewed this as putting loyalty to organized labor ahead of national security, and he blamed it for Cleland’s defeat, as did a number of analysts in Georgia. (Democratic leaders blamed Republican ads portraying Cleland, a triple amputee from the Vietnam War, as unpatriotic for voting against the Bush-backed bill.) After the homeland security vote, Miller stopped attending weekly Democratic caucus meetings.”

Mary Elizabeth

May 7th, 2012
5:09 pm

josef, 5:03

You are so full of stereotypical thinking that i could never alter your perceptions no matter what I said. The point was not about Philadelphia, MS. The point was and is world visions.

I am sure that Philadelphia, MS has become much more progressive since 1980, as has much of the South and other parts of our nation. However, Philadelphia, MS was not the focus of the discussion. Only you made it so. Think about why that might be.

Uh Oh

May 7th, 2012
5:09 pm

Ragnar

To clarify about “earmarks”; I mean “earmarks” in that very stimulus bill that they say was bad for America.

I do not condone “earmarks” for anyone. All monies should be easily tracked and not hidden deep within some bill.

Paul

May 7th, 2012
5:10 pm

Jm

“Paul 4:31

Liberals don’t listen to well reasoned points. So theres no point in bothering.”

Do you have any idea how inept that sounds?

I'm a "con" and a vet. STOP SPITTING ON ME!!! (That Black Guy)

May 7th, 2012
5:12 pm

Thulsa Doom

May 7th, 2012
4:50 pm
And what are the Dems doing NOW to improve race relations?- typo correction

I dunno Adam. You tell me.
__________________________________________________________________

They remind you that you are a racist if you don’t support Obama.

You meanie you.

Matti

May 7th, 2012
5:12 pm

josef,

Mr. Heyward is quoting someone named Brandon Smith from a piece called Understanding the Slave Mentality.

Doggone/GA

May 7th, 2012
5:12 pm

“Liberals don’t listen to well reasoned points”

Sure we do. When we’re presented with them. Seldom happens here.

Midori

May 7th, 2012
5:12 pm

Zell Miller?

Zell “I challenge you to a duel” Miller?

that the best you can do?

thank god the party did leave that nut. he’s probably sitting somewhere soiling his diaper.

The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers

May 7th, 2012
5:13 pm

JamVet
May 7th, 2012
4:22 pm

The above damning figure is perspective.

Out of fifty Republicans in a room, one will be black.

One.

And watch carefully at the GOP Convention in Tampa latter this year.

This is not exactly newsworthy, but the Lily White Party has a big “Tent problem”!

And the other 49 will be in the dem tent because they need financial assistance from the gub’ment due to the high rate of single mommies unable to collect child support from multiple street running baby daddies, and hating black achievers like Condoleeza Rice and Clarence Thomas. How dare they achieve.

EJ Moosa

May 7th, 2012
5:13 pm

During every Presidential Election since 1960, the incumbent party loses power when year over year corporate profit improvement fell below 10%.

That would be 12 of 13 elections.

The one election that does not fit? Gerald Ford, who was not elected in the first place.

Obama’s going to need more than Republican bashing to help him defy the reality of just how weakened the economy is.