Gay spokesman for Romney resigns under outside pressure
Ah man. This is disappointing. I thought we might be past all this by now.
From Jennifer Rubin, conservative blogger at The Washington Post and generally a stalwart defender of Mitt Romney:
“Richard Grenell, the openly gay spokesman recently hired to sharpen the foreign policy message of Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign, has resigned in the wake of a full-court press by anti-gay conservatives.
In a statement obtained by Right Turn, Grenell says:
“I have decided to resign from the Romney campaign as the Foreign Policy and National Security Spokesman. While I welcomed the challenge to confront President Obama’s foreign policy failures and weak leadership on the world stage, my ability to speak clearly and forcefully on the issues has been greatly diminished by the hyper-partisan discussion of personal issues that sometimes comes from a presidential campaign. I want to thank Governor Romney for his belief in me and my abilities and his clear message to me that being openly gay was a non-issue for him and his team.”
For examples of the criticism leveled at Romney by fellow conservatives for the Grenell hire, see Bryan Fischer at the American Family Association, Matthew J. Franck at National Review and the Family Research Council.
Grenell was not without controversy for reasons that extend beyond sexual orientation. Upon being hired by Romney, he had to go through his Twitter account and eliminate some pretty impolitic remarks made about various political figures, from Newt Gingrich to Hillary Clinton. It’s also important to note that members of Romney’s team reportedly urged Grenell to stay on board rather than resign.
But as Rubin describes it, “Grenell decided to resign after being kept under wraps during a time when national security issues, including the president’s ad concerning Osama bin Laden, had emerged front and center in the campaign.” The campaign was acting as though Grenell had become too hot to be allowed to do his job, so he left.
The incident recalls the example of Ken Mehlman, a gay Republican who served as George Bush’s 2004 campaign manager and as head of the Republican National Committee but who felt compelled to remain in the closet until 2010, when he left politics as a profession.
“The process of not being able to say who I am in public life was very difficult,” Mehlman said. “No one else knew this except me. My family didn’t know. My friends didn’t know. Anyone who watched me knew I was a guy who was clearly uncomfortable with the topic.”
It’s also worth noting that social conservative groups and several prominent conservative politicians refused to participate in the annual CPAC meeting in Washington in 2011 because GOProud, a gay conservative group, was allowed to become one of many co-sponsors of the event.
In 2012, after GOProud was publicly disinvited, the boycott ended and the groups returned.
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Oscar
May 1st, 2012
10:42 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
May 1st, 2012
9:33 pm
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Good point. Thatnks for the answer. I never would have thought of that. But it makes sense.
So does keeping ground troops out of Asia. W. and Cheney should have gone to the movies more oftern
Paul
May 1st, 2012
10:42 pm
Yes, LDS are Christians. But if there ever was a time LDS in the Romney campaign felt like telling these so-called Christians “you’re right – we’re not like you” this is it.
JamVet
May 1st, 2012
10:44 pm
Matti, I suspect that many of the rantings that Bud and others here are based on one reason and one reason only.
They are really, really scared. They know what is coming and, as was the case in 2008, they cannot stop it.
Despite their prayers otherwise, it is not likely the US economy is gonna do a George Walker Bush on us before November.
And though they delude themselves into thinking that the depraved lies by their piggish oracles like Rush Limbo and their full scale legislative assault on women, goes unnoticed, they could not be anymore wrong.
Across the board, on pretty much every major issue – from their inexplicable love for poisons and toxins in our land, air and water to their asskissing of banksters and casino capitalists who destroyed the dreams of millions of American families – they are in deep, deep trouble.
And though they lack the stones to ever admit it, they nonetheless know it…
Oscar
May 1st, 2012
10:46 pm
Towncrier
May 1st, 2012
10:21 pm
“…in the end since all returns to dust and nothing is really consequential…Sez you.”
No, not just me. It is a inescapable logical conclusion which is addressed even by atheists like Camus who, in his The Myth of Sisyphus, starts out by saying the first philosophic question is suicide (which is logical in the face of nothingness and pain – he quotes Hamlet’s soliloquy among other literary passages). Got something substantive to add?
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Trouble with those guys is that they thought too much. That gets you into trouble ten ways till Sunday every time.
Oscar
May 1st, 2012
10:48 pm
bman
May 1st, 2012
9:41 pm
Oscar .. .. Right now, neither one has an advantage. The first debate will be the most important.
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I agree. The game is still on the table. Or in basketball terms, it’s still on the court.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
May 1st, 2012
10:58 pm
hardly anyone even watches debates, we’d rather watch paint dry. everyone already has an idea who they’ll vote for. the indie female will be the swing voter. and she won’t forget the well orchestrated war on women’s rights that the repugs have started.
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Obama is in Afghanistan, taking credit yet again for the killing of bin Laden. He and his campaign also have essentially said Romney wouldn’t have had the guts to make the call, either.
That classless pig is delusional, desparation reeking from his pores.
what a bitter sad and hate filled little man you are. you have my deepest sympathy.
Towncrier
May 1st, 2012
11:02 pm
“…she won’t forget the well orchestrated war on women’s rights that the repugs have started.”
“…what a bitter sad and hate filled little man you are…”
The contrast between these statements is interesting. I guess there is no hatred in the first one, though there is judgement of the same in the second.
Jm
May 1st, 2012
11:03 pm
Obama is rallying the republican base
Good job O
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
May 1st, 2012
11:04 pm
For Scout – It seems to me that Florida’s Stand Your Ground Law only applies to white males. I guess they’re the only ones who can feel “frightened”.
Tonight on AC360: Stand your ground law under scrutiny in domestic violence case
Editor’s note: Don’t miss Gary Tuchman’s interview with Marissa Alexander at 8 and 10 p.m. ET tonight on AC360°.
Marissa Alexander, a 31-year-old mother of three, pleaded for her freedom as an inmate in the Duval County Jail in Jacksonville, Florida.
“This is my life I’m fighting for,” she said while wiping away tears. She added, “If you do everything to get on the right side of the law, and it is a law that does not apply to you, where do you go from there?”
Alexander is referring to Florida’s so-called ’stand your ground’ law, a law that has come under scrutiny since the killing of Trayvon Martin. Unlike the Martin case, which involved one stranger killing another, Alexander’s case involved her gun and her abusive husband.
On August 1, 2010, she said her husband, Rico Gray, read text messages on her phone that she had written to her ex-husband. She said Gray became enraged and accused her of being unfaithful. “That’s when he strangled me. He put his hands around my neck,” Alexander said.
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/24/tonight-on-ac360-stand-your-ground-law-under-scrutiny-in-domestic-violence-case/?iref=allsearch
Toddler's unite
May 1st, 2012
11:04 pm
Repub men only like dealing with Gays in the quiet of a hotel room, preferably after midnite.
Ahem
May 1st, 2012
11:06 pm
Nobody gives a craap about this BS. Did you see the Fool in Kabul?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
May 1st, 2012
11:07 pm
The contrast between these statements is interesting. I guess there is no hatred in the first one, though there is judgement of the same in the second.
Well….there’s no harm in “guessing”……..
Towncrier
May 1st, 2012
11:08 pm
“It seems to me that Florida’s Stand Your Ground Law only applies to white males. I guess they’re the only ones who can feel “frightened”.”
I am not familiar with the details of the case, so I will not comment. It is so easy to jump to conclusions. I saw Condaleeza Rice on a show last night and she said that the last unresolved issue in America was race. I think she’s right. It is still a hot potato. She is 40% European, by the way. She was surprised.
bman
May 1st, 2012
11:10 pm
“Repub men only like dealing with Gays in the quiet of a hotel room, preferably after midnite.”
a “been there, done that” kinda thing for you? good grief man!
Towncrier
May 1st, 2012
11:10 pm
“Well….there’s no harm in “guessing”
Ah, good. Just to be clear – so there was no contempt lying behind the use of these words: “well orchestrated war on women’s rights that the repugs have started”?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
May 1st, 2012
11:11 pm
she was born and raised in alabama. oh wait, isn’t there a Paris, Alabama?
Towncrier
May 1st, 2012
11:13 pm
“She was born and raised in alabama… oh wait, isn’t there a Paris, Alabama?”
Try Faces of America with Henry Louis Gates, Jr. You do know the show, don’t you?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
May 1st, 2012
11:15 pm
contempt? No. nor was there any surprise. there’s been signs for years that an all out assault was going to be waged — just didn’t know when.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
May 1st, 2012
11:18 pm
so her genetic profile traces back to europe. whooppeeee dooo. my genetic profile traces my lineage back to the conquistadors. that makes me “european” too………
TGT
May 1st, 2012
11:18 pm
“They are really, really scared.”
Yeah, because the GOP hasn’t had ANY recent election success…besides the 2010 landslide, the Scott Brown victory, the Bob McDonnell victory, the Chris Christie victory…
“Across the board, on pretty much every major issue – from their inexplicable love for poisons and toxins in our land, air and water…”
You are, of course, referring to the issue of man-made global warming–which barely even registers as an issue with Americans who actually vote–and which fewer and fewer Americans are being duped into believing.
One issue will decide this election: the economy–and on this issue Obama is in “deep, deep trouble.”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
May 1st, 2012
11:19 pm
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman:
As always, that will be decided by a jury of peers based on the facts.
TAPS ! Everyone still up be nice.
Thulsa Doom
May 1st, 2012
11:22 pm
Debbiedoright,
Stand your law only applies only to whites? Wasn’t it a white guy who got shot in 2004 that spurred the stand your ground law in Florida? And didn’t Frederica the nice African American lady with the fashionable cowgirl hats and many Dems support passage of the law back then? But of course once a young black men gets killed well I guess that just changes everything for Miss Fredericka I guess.
Jimmy62
May 1st, 2012
11:24 pm
Just like there are plenty of bigots on the left, there are still some on the right. It’s very unfortunate, and I wish this hadn’t become an issue because it’s just so stupid. I’m libertarian/conservative and have never had any issue with gay people or gay marriage.
Of course I also see the irony that whenever there is a Republican that is gay, the left likes to shout it from the rooftops, no matter what the individual wants. That’s not exactly a sign of tolerance.
Towncrier
May 1st, 2012
11:24 pm
“…there’s been signs for years that an all out assault was going to be waged — just didn’t know when.”
Well, being a conservative, I find it odd for someone (not just you) to characterize the abortion issue and free contraception as a “war on women”. Those are emotional terms. To me, it boils down to principle. I do not think a woman should be able to abort what may, in fact, be a living human being just because the consequence of having sex and not using contraceptives or insisting her partner do so (condoms are reportedly 98% effective when used properly and there is only a 20% chance of a woman getting pregnant each month) just to much to bear (pun intended). In the case of incest, rape or medical necessity, then that is different. But abortions for convenience is just not right morally. The time to exercise choice is before conception, not afterwards. And where, constitutionally, do people think they have a “right” to FREE contraceptives? I should think, in the interests of preventing abortions and unwanted children, the government or insurance might give them out for free. But no one should be compelled to do so. After all, it is neither the government or the insurance companies that are having sex. Do I deserve a free taxi ride home if I drink too much at a bar?
Towncrier
May 1st, 2012
11:29 pm
“so her genetic profile traces back to europe. whooppeeee dooo.”
That cavalier response smacks a little of a bad emotion. Do you want to solve the race issue in America or be resentful? The fact is, there is a LOT of mixed blood in Americans and that is a useful starting point, in my view, for discussing and resolving the race issue. Do you not agree?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
May 1st, 2012
11:32 pm
Doom: Wasn’t it a white guy who got shot in 2004 that spurred the stand your ground law in Florida?
You just made my case for me. Thanks.
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Towncrier – Emotional? Hmmm let me guess, you must be a man right? I don’t know how much of the litigious passages you are aware of, but things like contraceptive – no one is asking for “free” contraceptive, their asking that if you can cover pills for some old man to continue to “get it up” you should cover pills for young women not to get pregnant.
You conservatives see “we want it FREE!!” under every rock. None of its true, but you’ll continue with your fallacy regardless.
Thulsa Doom
May 1st, 2012
11:34 pm
Towncrier,
A lot of people don’t want the race issue solved. It takes away a huge crutch for a lot of people not to mention a whole industry of race hustlers like Jesse and Al. And it takes away a lot of power for Dems over their minions if they can no longer blame everything on race for them.
Towncrier
May 1st, 2012
11:35 pm
“I don’t know how much of the litigious passages you are aware of, but things like contraceptive – no one is asking for “free” contraceptive…”
Untrue, some actually are. And Obama care mandates it, does it not?
“…their asking that if you can cover pills for some old man to continue to “get it up” you should cover pills for young women not to get pregnant.”
Well if that is the case, I am equally opposed to men getting viagra (or some such drug) free. Neither should be free in my view.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
May 1st, 2012
11:37 pm
that should be “contraception”……..typing too fast….
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That cavalier response smacks a little of a bad emotion. Do you want to solve the race issue in America or be resentful? The fact is, there is a LOT of mixed blood in Americans and that is a useful starting point, in my view, for discussing and resolving the race issue. Do you not agree?
IMO – the only way to “solve” the issue is for all the old folks, on both sides, to die out and take their hate with them. children don’t know how to hate, its the adults who teach them that fine art.
Thulsa Doom
May 1st, 2012
11:37 pm
“It seems to me that Florida’s Stand Your Ground Law only applies to white males. I guess they’re the only ones who can feel “frightened”.
I dunno bout that. Seems to me that young black men have a lot to feel frightened about. Namely other young black men.
Matti
May 1st, 2012
11:38 pm
Debbie Do Right,
As you can tell from the responses by the troglodytes on this board, Florida’s “stand your ground” law was never meant for women who are in rebellion against the lawful, divine rights of their husbands to beat the crud out of them and their children to keep them in their place. (I was married to a Florida swamp redneck, and he explained the rightful order of things to me, so believe me — I know.) A woman who behaves has nothing to fear from her husband, and if she makes the choice to disobey, deserves what she gets.
Like the pillar of manhood “Towncrier” explained, it’s a choice to disobey. It’s a choice to not keep an aspirin between our knees to prevent an unplanned pregnancy.
I’m sure Towncrier expects that if part of his paycheck is deducted to pay for group insurance every month, then he will be entitled to whatever his doctor prescribes him for the health and maintenance of his “man parts.” A woman who expects her “woman parts” prescriptions to be covered, however, is just a moral aberration, and does not deserve the EXACT SAME coverage from her group policy as her male co-workers. After all, she should be in the kitchen baking biscuits, the zlut!
Towncrier
May 1st, 2012
11:40 pm
“A lot of people don’t want the race issue solved. ”
Perhaps you are right, TD. Some people prefer to resent than forgive or reconcile. But that is not just along racial lines. There are family members who do not speak to each other for decades. I am actually glad to see prominent “black” figures who have white blood in them, because it takes away the we versus them position of racist haters. That is why it bothered me so much for the media to paint Obama as a “black” man when he is mulatto. It hurts race relations in the end. Do you know who gave us what is arguably the greatest American form of music (jazz)? It was mulattoes.
Thulsa Doom
May 1st, 2012
11:42 pm
“(I was married to a Florida swamp redneck, and he explained the rightful order of things to me, so believe me — I know.”
Typical liberal with their poor choices in life. Perhaps ya shouldn’t have married a Florida swamp redneck. Did you not know he was a Florida swamp redneck when you married him? Jeez.
Oscar
May 1st, 2012
11:43 pm
Towncrier
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Nobody uses the term mulatto anymore. Mixed race is the term or biracial. time to update. And don’t think Louis Armstrong was one.
Oscar
May 1st, 2012
11:44 pm
Matti
May 1st, 2012
11:38 pm
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Baki9ng buscuits, barefoot and pregnant.
Thulsa Doom
May 1st, 2012
11:46 pm
Towncrier,
I hate to be pessimistic but race will always be there because some people just won’t let it go- it serves multiple purposes as a crutch, an excuse for failure, and most of all a power base of hate for people like Jesse and Al. Sad but true . There are people on this board who wake up every day wondering how whitey is gonna screw them that day. gm is the perfect example follwed by jefferson and hdb.
Matti
May 1st, 2012
11:49 pm
Thulsa,
Thank you so much for your concern! How it warms my heart…. So few people make bad romantic choices when they’re young, you know. Certainly YOU never did! Fortunately, I learned from that mistake, and fixed it before I’d wasted too many years. I even left him the house, and left with only my bruises and what I could cram into my car! I hope he can forgive me someday, but unfortunately, he’s not the wise, thoughtful, caring, kind, stalwart man that you are. Gosh, your wife is lucky to have you explain the world to her!
Towncrier
May 1st, 2012
11:49 pm
“Like the pillar of manhood “Towncrier” explained, it’s a choice to disobey. It’s a choice to not keep an aspirin between our knees to prevent an unplanned pregnancy.”
By golly…what was I thinking??? It really is TOO much to ask people to use contraceptives – even though the combination of a condom and spermicide during the week or so a woman may actually become pregnant makes pregnancy virtually impossible. Yeah, I guess go ahead and take as many lives as you want. Next maybe we can start getting rid of all of the “inconvenient” elderly in nursing homes. Whadda ya think???
“I’m sure Towncrier expects that if part of his paycheck is deducted to pay for group insurance every month, then he will be entitled to whatever his doctor prescribes him for the health and maintenance of his “man parts.”
Well, your surety in that case is faulty, because I do not support that at all. But hey, whatever you say….
“A woman who expects her “woman parts” prescriptions to be covered, however, is just a moral aberration, and does not deserve the EXACT SAME coverage from her group policy as her male co-workers. After all, she should be in the kitchen baking biscuits, the zlut!”
Wow…love your reasoning in darkness. Read my response to DDR: neither should be free. That is only fair. If one is not free, neither should the other be. Perhaps you should find another tree to bark at.
Oscar
May 1st, 2012
11:50 pm
Thulsa Doom
May 1st, 2012
11:46 pm
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If it was not race, it would be religion.
Same type people would be fighting about religion if they didn’t have race to fight about. Some people just like to fight and create division. They live off of that because they have nothing else.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
May 1st, 2012
11:52 pm
Matti – you are soooo right! It’s amazing how this woman, who filed a protective order against her abuser, who’s abuser put in a statement to the cops that she never pointed the gun at him AND that he had beat her up before and he GUESSED she was KINDA scared of him, does NOT have the right to “stand her ground”. The judge said he, (notice its a male), didn’t think her reasons were VALID and it didn’t apply to the law. A-Freaing-Mazing!!!
Doom – Your comment to Matti – Grow Up.
Towncrier
May 1st, 2012
11:53 pm
“Nobody uses the term mulatto anymore. Mixed race is the term or biracial. time to update.”
That would be incorrect. Maybe in the PC crowd. No need to update unless you no one knows the word. And that is not the case.
“And don’t think Louis Armstrong was one.”
So…by making that statement do you think you are invalidating my claim that jazz came from mulattoes? If so, is there a way we can meet and wager a huge sum of money?
Thulsa Doom
May 1st, 2012
11:55 pm
Matti,
Sorry Matti but I’ve no patience for women who knowingly , naively, and most of all stupidly marry men that they know to be POS es. Its hard to feel sorry for stupidity.
Matti
May 1st, 2012
11:57 pm
Towncrier,
It’s not free if I’m paying premiums every month. D’OH! Also, (newsflash!), those prescriptions are not solely for contraceptive purposes, just like not all drugs for man parts are about getting it marching again. If you knew your women-parts better, you’d know that they have many legitimate medical uses. Would you have me bring a note to my employer from my doctor describing the exact state of my woman parts before I can swipe my insurance card? Are you in favor of employer intervention into the doctor-patient relationship, or that it’s his right to know every medical detail of every employee? That’s kind of creepy, but it seems like that’s what you’re advocating. I apologize if it’s not.
Thulsa Doom
May 1st, 2012
11:58 pm
Debbie,
No. You grow up. Too much of this nonsense of people making shyte poor decisions in their lives and then whining about their dumbarse decisions to others later on. Nobody told her to marry a complete loser who was also abusive. She knowingly married a bad guy. That’s on her.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
May 2nd, 2012
12:00 am
Gosh, your wife is lucky to have you explain the world to her!
Girl, he’s not married. He’s free and single and ready to mingle. Lock your daughters up.
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Oscar you may be right. I mean look at the english and the scots. they’re both of the white race but they still kill each other and hate each other.
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TC: If you pay a premium for health insurance, then you are NOT getting anything free.
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Doom -AGAIN you forget LimpBalls — on purpose?
Towncrier
May 2nd, 2012
12:02 am
“Sorry Matti but I’ve no patience for women who knowingly , naively, and most of all stupidly marry men that they know to be POS es. Its hard to feel sorry for stupidity.”
TD, very few people are actually stupid (extremely low IQ). Instead, they are foolish. And we are all that way from time to time – sometimes with grave consequences (like the teenager who gets drunk one night and collides with minivan carrying a family and kills them). And to be honest, many men put on a “show” when courting women to which they fall prey. Women want to be loved by a man and sometimes let their emotions cloud their better judgement. So, I sympathize with women who wind up in really abusive relationships. But I don’t condone a life’s worth of bitterness over it. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned (or abused or not loved).
Matti
May 2nd, 2012
12:02 am
Thulsa,
DId I ask for your patience OR your pity? No, I did not. I relayed that I had learned from my mistake, corrected it and moved on. I owned it and I owned the consequences, and never asked anyone else to fix it. That sounds like responsible human behavior to me.
Yet, you still feel wronged somehow… Hmmm… Sounds like you’re projecting your own issues onto me. No thanks.
Thulsa Doom
May 2nd, 2012
12:04 am
Oscar,
You are probably right. If not race people would most assuredly probably fight about religion and then politics I suppose.
Don't Forget
May 2nd, 2012
12:04 am
Thulsa, it cuts both ways on race. There are plenty of white people who wake up every day convinced that the only reason they aren’t successful is because of things like affirmative action. Heck, you see it here every day with the “if a white person did that”………. mindset. I’ve even known southeast asians who think they have to outperform everybody by a sizable margin to be successful because of some invisible quota that is quickly filled for southeast asians. Anybody who has fallen short of their expectations does this and race is simply a convenient explanation.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
May 2nd, 2012
12:05 am
Doom – OMG!!! I guess you’re perfect and have NEVER made a bad decision and/or bad choice in your life right? Jeesh! it happens!! that’s why there’s divorce. if you get into a bad marriage then you can get out of it. Matti got OUT. if she would’ve stayed for umpteen years and kept getting her butt kicked then you’d have a point.
Towncrier
May 2nd, 2012
12:10 am
“It’s not free if I’m paying premiums every month. D’OH! Also, (newsflash!), those prescriptions are not solely for contraceptive purposes, just like not all drugs for man parts are about getting it marching again. If you knew your women-parts better, you’d know that they have many legitimate medical uses.”
Perhaps we are talking at cross purposes…I am responding more to the Sandra Fluke type position. Maybe I need to become more educated about “women’s parts” (that is not something my wife has spoken a lot about).
“Would you have me bring a note to my employer from my doctor describing the exact state of my woman parts before I can swipe my insurance card? Are you in favor of employer intervention into the doctor-patient relationship, or that it’s his right to know every medical detail of every employee? That’s kind of creepy, but it seems like that’s what you’re advocating.”
No and no. My main problem is with abortions of convenience and anything logically connected to that.
“I apologize if it’s not.”
I do as well. We cool?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
May 2nd, 2012
12:13 am
TC – you’re thinking mulatto and jazz – Jellyroll Morton? I’m a big fan of his music. what little there is that you can find of it that is.
oh well, later ladies and gents. I’ve got to go to Augusta tomorrow (oh joy). Sweet dreams all.
Except for Doom. I want him to dream about LSU beating BAma’z azz over and over again.
Oscar
May 2nd, 2012
12:15 am
So…by making that statement do you think you are invalidating my claim that jazz came from mulattoes? If so, is there a way we can meet and wager a huge sum of money?
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You want to bet a large sum of money. Who are you, Mitt Romeny wanting to bet pocket change of $10,000.00. Sorry, can’t do that.
Thulsa Doom
May 2nd, 2012
12:15 am
“DId I ask for your patience OR your pity? No, I did not”
No. You didn’t. You just started whining about it is all. And don’t worry. You didn’t get any of my pity. I reserve my pity for people like kids who have cancer for no reason of their own, people who are truly poor and desperate, and most of all people who have little or zero control over their lives. Folks living in refugee camps in Darfur for example or kids raised in abusive homes.
Sorry but I’ve seen too many women I know or too many friends who have had female relatives or daughters get involved with the “bad boy” for the dumbest, most inexplicable reason. My girlfriends daughter spent 2 weeks in a psych ward after an emotional breakdown caused in large part by this abusive boyfriend after we told her repeatedly to stay the hell away from this kid. Perhaps I’m too harsh on Matti but frankly I just don’t understand the stupidity of why women make such poor choices and stick with such losers.
Towncrier
May 2nd, 2012
12:16 am
“oh well, later ladies and gents. I’ve got to go to Augusta tomorrow (oh joy). Sweet dreams all.”
Good night, DDR.
Thulsa Doom
May 2nd, 2012
12:17 am
21-0 Debbie. Life is good under King Saban.
Towncrier
May 2nd, 2012
12:19 am
“Perhaps I’m too harsh on Matti but frankly I just don’t understand the stupidity of why women make such poor choices and stick with such losers.”
They just do. Human beings, as I like to say, are idiot savants. We land people on the moon and then spill millions and millions of gallons of oil into the Gulf of Mexico. You strike me as being a bit self-righteous, TD. People need mercy and forgiveness for their folly. We all do – including you.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
May 2nd, 2012
12:20 am
Doom- for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0&feature=related
Towncrier
May 2nd, 2012
12:21 am
“You want to bet a large sum of money. Who are you, Mitt Romeny wanting to bet pocket change of $10,000.00. Sorry, can’t do that.”
Airball.
Towncrier
May 2nd, 2012
12:21 am
Well, I am out as well…Good night all.
Matti
May 2nd, 2012
12:23 am
Towncrier,
Yes, and thanks for that. FYI: hormone-based prescriptions treat a variety of ailments in both men and women. Not usually something you’d want to discuss/defend at work, but something you’d very much want to be able to purchase if needed!
I understand your feelings about “abortions of convenience.” Most people disapprove of them, even when they disagree on the appropriate level of intervention by law enforcement personnel. FYI: the bill our Governor signed today has nothing whatsoever to do with abortions of convenience, and does nothing to reduce those numbers. It’s existence is purely political, to appease the hard-core “RTL” fundies who lobby the Capitol endlessly. It really does come between a doctor and patient during a serious, crisis-level situation, restricts the doctor’s ability to do what’s best for the patient when time is critical, and punishes women who did nothing wrong. Sad.
The Thin Guy
May 2nd, 2012
12:24 am
If he is gay why did he quit? He’s wasn’t morose, mildly unhappy or particularly sad. He was gay. I can’t be gay whilst our country is being occupied by The Kenyan Klutz. But after he is gone I will pass right through gay to absolutely giddy. What a queer topic.
Thulsa Doom
May 2nd, 2012
12:28 am
Dont forget,
I know of white people who have complained about affirmative action even though they did not miss out on a job opportunity because of it. I sense they are more worried about their kids being discriminated against. But I don’t know one single white person who constantly harps on affirmative action costing them jobs, etc.
Unles someone is hanging out with a bunch of down and out losers I have to question your statement that a lot of white people who blame their failures or lack of achievement on affirmative action. I do not personally know one white person who blames his circumstances on affirmative action.
Thulsa Doom
May 2nd, 2012
12:38 am
You strike me as being a bit self-righteous, TD. People need mercy and forgiveness for their folly. We all do – including you.
And you strike me as a little judgemental in your statement. I don’t think I’m as much self righteous as I simply have a lack of patience with people doing really stupid things and making really bad choices when they know them to be really bad choices to begin with. Now I have done my fair share of stupid things also, particularly as a younger man. But I’m not going to air them out and use racial slurs when doing so in a whining session.
And like I said maybe I am a little harsh on Matti but she should be able to take it. As much crap as she dishes out against cons with her own hateful rhetoric I expect that if she can dish it out then she ought to be able to take it too.
Jack
May 2nd, 2012
5:47 am
Deviant behavior always attracts attention. If gays become a majority, my behavior would become deviant.
weetamoe
May 2nd, 2012
6:02 am
Grenell was a trusted member of George W Bush’s administration, even representing the US at the UN. His tweets about Michelle Obama, Mrs Gingrich, and other women made him an all too easy target for the harridans who instigated the phony war against women. Too bad he thought it best to resign for the good of the party. Good try, AJC. I am sure it won’t be the last.
Normal Free, Plain and Simple
May 2nd, 2012
6:12 am
Those who fear gays might want to look in the mirror….
Normal Free, Plain and Simple
May 2nd, 2012
6:25 am
GOP’s view on women’s rights…
http://history.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/05/01/funny-pictures-history-see-you-can-move-around/
Midori
May 2nd, 2012
6:38 am
the people who think the war on women is phoney are themselves phoney. and blind. and not very honest.
Brosephus™
May 2nd, 2012
6:58 am
Yeah, well…it does. I’m not a fan at all of Gov Christie (sp?) but methinks Romney could use a little of the balls that Christie had when he went after his party about Muslims.
Agreed…
JamVet
May 2nd, 2012
7:04 am
…the phony war against women.
I love it.
If these Republican men say it enough times, they certainly can convince themselves.
But not the women in the is country. Particularly those that vote.
Nor the rest of us who will not sit by and let them be abused and humiliated by the Party of Yesteryear and their demented Male Masters of the Uterus.
I’m predicting an historic landslide of slut, prostitute and FemiNazi votes – both by numbers and percentages – against the Limbaugh-led GOP this November.
Go ladies, go!
Brosephus™
May 2nd, 2012
7:04 am
His tweets about Michelle Obama, Mrs Gingrich, and other women made him an all too easy target for the harridans who instigated the phony war against women. Too bad he thought it best to resign for the good of the party.
Some people never, ever want to take the blame for the mess they create all by themselves. Instead, there’s always somebody else to blame. The GOP didn’t stand up for the guy, and there were even conservative backing groups who went after him. Blaming things on the opposition is an excuse to not look at your own problems.
stevie ray..Clowns to the Left and Jokers to the Right..here I am...
May 2nd, 2012
7:08 am
MIDORI
Agreed but its a war women can easily win…likely by a blowout. I hope women take the bait and blast the right wing Jokers into the 21st century. I hope Romney doesn’t need the religious (fighting for relevancy)right to win this…
stevie ray..Clowns to the Left and Jokers to the Right..here I am...
May 2nd, 2012
7:12 am
After listening to President Trillion extemporaneously address the troops last evening, I think he should go back to the telepromter….exclusively a political move guised as some meaningful partnership agreement which is bs..
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
May 2nd, 2012
7:16 am
stevie ray
well without political moves
there’d be no politics
no politics – no government
no government then anarchy
STEVIE RAY SUPPORTS ANARCHY!
stinkin’ commie!
(just saying)
Brosephus™
May 2nd, 2012
7:18 am
exclusively a political move guised as some meaningful partnership agreement which is bs..
In layman’s terms… Unless he’s running a pro-GOP agenda, everything he does is partisaned politics. Seems like Charlie Brown will kick a field goal before Obama does something that gets approval from many people.
Bud Wiser
May 2nd, 2012
7:20 am
Matti
May 1st, 2012
10:19 pm
Bud Wiser,
You write that hateful garbage AS IF you are somehow a friend to the women of the world. Do you imagine you’re actually fooling anyone?
Well, had you read the actual content of what I wrote, as opposed to some wild-a$$ interpretation (where do you people come up with that crap anyway?), you would see that I stated that it was Obama who has a rather dangerous or callous view of women.
Me?
I don’t.
But, I have a rather dim view of stupid women, and Matti, I cannot see you. Some guy beat you up in the past, you stuck with him a while, and now you hate all men?
Sorry about that, but I cannot fix stupid, just point it out.
Call It Like It Is
May 2nd, 2012
7:22 am
Jay the title of your blog is silly and just a bait for hate. Grenell was an idiot and it has nothing what so ever to do about him being Gay. The right is trying to appeal to woman and you have an idiot on the team that is tearing woman down on twitter. The man is gone not because he is gay, but because he couldnt act like an adult and keep his opinions to himself. But of course I understand you need blog hits, so thus the whole GAY GRENELL IS GONE. Sad very sad.
stevie ray..Clowns to the Left and Jokers to the Right..here I am...
May 2nd, 2012
7:28 am
BRO,
Come on man, he did order the strike so kudos but I don’t think he has done anything else unique or noteworthy that will stand the test of time. I doubt Romney will be able to accomplish much other than posturing for re-election either…seeing how most of our elected official spend 30% of their time raising money to maintain professional politician status….Irks me that he used our money for phony crony BS like this….
JamVet
May 2nd, 2012
7:28 am
If these Republican men say it enough times, they certainly can convince themselves.
And then right on cue:
…and it has nothing what so ever to do about him being Gay.
Of course not, call it like it isn’t.
Too bad you never read the links JB provided. (That would require a tad bit of intellectual curiosity.)
This is not just an Etch-A-Sketch moment for the governor, it is a crossing-the-Rubicon moment. It appears to be a dog-whistle to the homosexual lobby, a way of saying to them I’m with you, not with them. It appears to be his way of saying to gay activists that when push comes to shove you can count on me. I’ll be in your corner, not theirs. ~Bryan Fischer, American Family Association
Brosephus™
May 2nd, 2012
7:31 am
Call It Like It Is
I guess you didn’t bother to read the links in Jay’s piece…
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fischer/120424
Gov. Mitt Romney stepped on a landmine by appointing Richard Grenell, an out, loud and proud homosexual, to be his spokesman on national security and foreign policy issues. Grenell has for years been an outspoken advocate for homosexual marriage. In fact, word is that he left the Bush administration because President Bush would not formally acknowledge his homosexual partner.
Since, as the saying goes in D.C., personnel is policy, this means Gov. Romney has some ’splaining to do. This clearly is a deliberate and intentional act on his part, since he was well aware of Mr. Grenell’s sexual proclivities and knew it would be problematic for social conservatives. It’s certainly not possible that there are no other potential spokesmen available, men who are experts in foreign policy and who at the same time honor the institution of natural marriage in their personal lives.
So this has all the appearances of a deliberate poke in the eye to the pro-family community, and a clumsy one at that, coming right on the heels of endorsements from Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention, Robert Jeffress of First Baptist Dallas and the National Organization for Marriage, and right after the governor accepted an invitation to deliver the commencement address at Liberty University.
As I explained in a much-discussed Tweet over the weekend, the message Gov. Romney appears to be sending to the pro-family community through his Grenell appointment is “drop dead.”
That’s from Bryan Fischer. I don’t think Mr. Fischer’s displeasure is more about Grenell’s opinion as it is about his lifestyle.
Brosephus™
May 2nd, 2012
7:33 am
stevie ray
I’m just calling it as I see it. Regardless to what Obama does, there will be many who will not be satisfied. It doesn’t matter whether they lean left or right. He may as well begin to refer to himself as Charlie Brown.
stevie ray..Clowns to the Left and Jokers to the Right..here I am...
May 2nd, 2012
7:35 am
GRANNY,
I have no response to that other than apparently some children must have been left behind. Using our money solely for political gain is practice of abuse….the culture comes from the top…Bush, Trillions, Romney…don’t matter. All President Trillion knows how to do is throw our money at all problems…he is a clown prince..
stevie ray..Clowns to the Left and Jokers to the Right..here I am...
May 2nd, 2012
7:40 am
I will not be satisfied with any president any time soon i reckon unless those in power stop dis’n us and our money while accomplishing zero sans promoting bundlers etcetera…all I can do is continue my letter writing…unfortunately, its kinda like praying for others, selfish endeavor not likely to bear fruit.
Call It Like It Is
May 2nd, 2012
7:41 am
And right on cue JB’s pitbulls come out of the woodwork to defend this pitiful blog. Of course your right, it all has to do with him being gay, nothing to do with him saying Gingrich’s wife’s hair looks snaped on or talking about Maddow’s looks. You speak of intellectual curiosity, yet you show the most lack of it. Good day
Brosephus™
May 2nd, 2012
7:46 am
You speak of intellectual curiosity, yet you show the most lack of it.
No, you show the most lack of it. You simply decided to bash Jay just out of pure knee jerk reaction. What you should have done is read the piece and/or links, and you would have seen that it’s not all because of what that guy tweeted. Maybe you should Read It Like It Is for once.
btw… I wouldn’t really qualify as a pitbull for Jay. Jay handles things for himself and does not need my assistance. I merely tried to assist you in your lack of reading. From now own, I’ll refrain from trying to help you out.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
May 2nd, 2012
7:50 am
stevie ray
sorry you were left behind.
my folks worked all their years to make sure their 7 were educationally qualified to lead.
i feel for ya fella’, it must be tough
JB
May 2nd, 2012
7:50 am
The key word is “quit”. If you are leading an open open Gay life style, you are subject to ridicule, right or wrong. We will all be judged one day by our Lord, but until then, you are judged by the world. Being fat, ugly,black, slow, Southern etc all have some of the same judgements to a degree, but to suggest that there are NO Gay conservatives is wrong. There are plenty.
JB
May 2nd, 2012
8:07 am
But, I will add, in a not so political correct terms in reality in this country based on facts, Romney pissing off gays loses few votes, if any. They were never there in the first place. If they vote for the well being for their country, they will vote for Romney. If they just vote for the best guy to support their chosen life style, then the guy with big ears is their man.
rightwing troll
May 2nd, 2012
8:40 am
“If they just vote for the best guy to support their chosen life style, then the guy with big ears is their man.”
Ummm… I don’t think W can run again… it’s in the constitution, or something like that. I know some of you wingnuts here wish he could, but he can’t.
However, you have a candidate who will embrace all that W’s administration was about and all that W’s administration did… why anyone would WANT that is beyond me, especially since we are starting to slowly recover from what W did to our country.
Don Abernethy
May 2nd, 2012
8:58 am
What would the media do if they did not have gay and race issues to rant about? Pretty soon they will be defending radical Muslims.
Peter
May 2nd, 2012
9:05 am
How about newt.. 4 million in debt, and not able to pay staffers, and those who helped him along…..YUP GOP way of running things…….Reminds me of Bush and the way he ran the country into the debt we have today because of his made up War !
But hey you don’t have to pay for a War do you GOP fans ?
lovelyliz
May 2nd, 2012
9:11 am
Who’s next, Red Lobster?
Oblama
May 2nd, 2012
9:22 am
Same ‘ole – Jay is back with the smoke and mirrors. This time it’s sex warfare. This election isn’t about sexual orientation. Oblama’s handlers want to make this election about class warfare/ sex warfare/ race warfare/ age warfare/ victim warfare/- anything (and I mean anything) but the economy, jobs and the alarming multi trillion dollar debt and how to reduce it. THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT THE ECONOMY, JOBS AND THE MULTI TRILLION DOLLAR FED DEBT AND HOW TO REDUCE IT. Out here in the real world – not D.C. – we know and experience every day this continued recession we are in. We don’t need fake figures from the Fed to tell us how the economy is doing. We don’t depend on the government to tell us that the MISERY INDEX is still very high.
willie lynch
May 2nd, 2012
9:24 am
I wonder where Lindsay Graham falls on this issue?
Bill Orvis White
May 2nd, 2012
9:27 am
The face of a righteous, conservative campaign needs to have someone who exemplifies family values. The honorable Governor Romney made the Right Choice in this decision which was honestly a no-brainer. Governor Romney has a record of making proper, tough decisions and He will continue to do so when He rightfully becomes president.
Amen,
Bill
willie lynch
May 2nd, 2012
9:28 am
Oblama
May 2nd, 2012
9:22 am
You know all the president has to do is lie like his predecessor. Pull the two wars started by the Bush administration off the books and hide it (like Bush) and we could knock 6 trillion dollars off the deficit.
Oblama
May 2nd, 2012
9:29 am
Oblama’s handlers multi million dollar photo op in Afghanistan has backfired. Oblama put lives in harms way with this desperate photo op for votes. Very reckless and now 7 innocent lives have been lost. As I have stated in the past, Oblama is our 1st “Reality Show President”. Unfortunately the lives risked and lives lost weren’t a reality show. Every time one innocent life is lost it effects many others and show the lack of wisdom on the part of Oblama.
Oblama
May 2nd, 2012
9:35 am
7 trillion dollars injected in to the economy by the Fed and still the misery index is high, the economy is stalled and Oblama’s is on the record. .001 % drop in unemployment for $7,000,000,000,000 is how much spent per job……. that’s Oblama’s plan for you in the future.
Oblama
May 2nd, 2012
9:39 am
Huckabee Report tuesday: Oblama’s handlers have set a new record for Presidential fund raisers with 124 so far – beating Clinton’s record of 94- and the campaign has months to go. What caught my eye was that over 20 of these fund raisers were done OUTSIDE of the U.S.A. – mostly from nations ruled by dictators and socialists.