Would Romney have gotten bin Laden? Well, maybe
In 2007, then-candidate Barack Obama made it clear what he would do as president if he learned that Osama bin Laden was hiding in Pakistan and that U.S. forces had a chance to take him out:
“If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and (Pakistani) President Musharraf won’t act, we will.”
His then-opponent, Hillary Clinton, took a similar stance:
“If we had actionable intelligence that Osama bin Laden or other high-value targets were in Pakistan I would ensure that they were targeted and killed or captured.”
However, another presidential candidate took issue with such statements, as Reuters reported at the time:
“I do not concur in the words of Barack Obama in a plan to enter an ally of ours… I don’t think those kinds of comments help in this effort to draw more friends to our effort,” (Mitt) Romney told reporters on the campaign trail….
Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who is one of the Republican front-runners, said U.S. troops “shouldn’t be sent all over the world.” He called Obama’s comments “ill-timed” and “ill-considered.”
“There is a war being waged by terrorists of different types and nature across the world,” Romney said. “We want, as a civilized world, to participate with other nations in this civilized effort to help those nations reject the extreme with them.”
In 2008, as the primary season heated up, the debate continued.
“It’s not worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person,” Romney said in a GOP debate. After that statement drew harsh criticism from John McCain and others, Romney toughened his language a few days later, suggesting that he would indeed target bin Laden.
Obama, on the other hand, stuck to his original position:
“We need more troops, more helicopters, more satellites, more Predator drones in the Afghan border region. And we must make it clear that if Pakistan cannot or will not act, we will take out high-level terrorist targets like bin Laden if we have them in our sights.”
Based on the evidence, it’s too much to argue that Romney would not have committed the manpower and money needed to track bin Laden. You also can’t argue that Romney would have balked at sending troops into Pakistan to kill the terrorist leader. Maybe he would have.
But against that “maybe,” you have the fact that another man had told us quite clearly what he would do if given the chance, and then did it.
– Jay Bookman
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They BOTH suck
April 30th, 2012
6:07 pm
Moderate
Probably boils down to what flavor of waffle you like
Mark in mid-town
April 30th, 2012
6:07 pm
to Brosephus at 5:50 PM — there is nothing wrong with Obama running an ad highlighting his accomplishments such as giving the order to get bin Laden. What makes what he’s doing so unseemly is that he’s using it to attack Romney.
Anyway, it’s actually a pretty desperate move on Obama’s part. What it shows is that they really think they are behind Romney. Think about it. Obama has pretty much reached his peak whereas Romney can only go up.
That in a nutshell, is the reason for the desperation so early on Obama’s part. One part of the Obama strategy has been to try and stir up all the Democratic base groups, which is why we hear about a war on women, a war on Hispanics, a war on workers, etc….
The only way the man can win is if he stirs up enough resentment among his core groups that they turn out in greater number. He’s beyond being able to convince anyone to support him who is not already supporting him. There are still plenty of hacks in the msm who will gladly follow the marching orders given out by the White House. But increasing numbers of people working in the msm are not crazy about carrying this guy’s water anymore.
Billybob
April 30th, 2012
6:10 pm
i love irony and taking words out of context is easily seen and exposed……
Moderate Line
April 30th, 2012
6:11 pm
It’s not worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person,” Romney said in a GOP debate. After that statement drew harsh criticism from John McCain and others, Romney toughened his language a few days later, suggesting that he would indeed target bin Laden.
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Appears to out of context based on Paul comment at 5:15. I don’t know about the rest.
josef
April 30th, 2012
6:12 pm
Mark
This race promises to be a lot tighter than the Democrats would like to admit, November is still a long way off and things have got plenty of time to get really nasty in both camps…
Paul
April 30th, 2012
6:12 pm
“but this was a call that every president would have made period”
With over half his national security team recommending against it?
With the possibility of SEALS being captured in Pakistan? With the possibility of secret stealth aircraft captured?
With no guarantee it was even OBL there?
Any president would have made the call?
Hardly -
Before, it was all the farRight could do to dismiss Pres Obama from the process, not it’s ‘any Pres would have done it.”
Boris Badnoff
April 30th, 2012
6:13 pm
Indeed. Our Beloved Messiah dropped his dog burger and, accompanied by his Squire Brilliant Biden, came straight from the golf course and personally beat Osammy to death with his Nobel Peace prize while the Navy Seals watched. Mittens would have been off doing charity work. Look at the works The Master has wrought. He spent over $ 1 billion to kill Colonel Q in Libya and the Libyans thanked us by desecrating the graves of British and American servicemen killed in WWII. Certainly we can all walk the streets of Atlanta at night and leave our doors unlocked due to The Bringer of Light’s good works. How did we get this lucky?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
April 30th, 2012
6:13 pm
i love irony and taking words out of context is easily seen and exposed……
It’s not about context, sport.
They BOTH suck
April 30th, 2012
6:14 pm
Mark
As know we know the polls will change numerous times between know and the election……….
With that said, start following the electoral maps
This one from Karl Rove himself
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/karl-roves-electoral-map-if-election-were-held-today-obama-would-win/
While Obama’s team is on the attack, as they should be, I do not think it is out of desperation………
It is Romney who will have to sway the voters in those states……..
I’m sure Rove thinks he can do it, but he doesn’t even have Romney close
Obama is on the attack to bury this guy not because he is behind……….
I think it will be close, but the WH is a long was from desperate at this point in time
Thulsa Doom
April 30th, 2012
6:14 pm
Barack Rambobama- war hero extraordinaire.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 30th, 2012
6:14 pm
This race promises to be a lot tighter than the Democrats would like to admit, November is still a long way off and things have got plenty of time to get really nasty in both camps…
Not really. Look at the Electoral Map.
Romney needs to win pretty much every single toss up state to just barely win.
Obama needs just one or two of those to win.
Much easier path for Obama.
Billybob
April 30th, 2012
6:15 pm
hey jay,
just sensing the media has realized that the moderate dems/reagan democrats have left obama……any thoughts on that one………..you know, the leftist media just realizing what happended in nov 2010…..
josef
April 30th, 2012
6:15 pm
K’chak
He don’t get it…I thought it was funny as sh*t when I read it…
pogo
April 30th, 2012
6:16 pm
“Sickos”, “Hypocrits”, “Mittens”. Namecalling is apparently all you libs have left now. Jay, you can’t ever be accused of running a “class” act here as you seem to bring out the worst in everybody involved. Of course, that is probably by design to keep the “hits’ coming in, isn’t it? Division feeds you doesn’t it just as it does the politicians. What rewarding occupations (if you have not personnal integrity at all).
They BOTH suck
April 30th, 2012
6:16 pm
“As we know the polls will change numerous times between now and the election………. ”
Apologize for the typos and lack of concentration
Billybob
April 30th, 2012
6:17 pm
‘it’s not about context sport’…….
that is what obama and axelrod pray for this fall………..ironic huh?
They BOTH suck
April 30th, 2012
6:18 pm
josef @ 6:12
I think it is going to get real nasty and probably before the convention………….
Bush – Kerry nasty….. I think
Jay
April 30th, 2012
6:18 pm
I’ll admit that at first I was a little dubious about the Obama-camp suggestion that Romney might not have made bin Laden a priority. But a review of the record suggested they might be right.
It’s also true that if Romney 2012 were running against Romney 2008, he of the “we mustn’t anger our allies” and “bin Laden isn’t all that important,” Romney 2012 would be accusing his foe of putting other nations in front of our national interests and wanting to run an apology tour for killing bin Laden.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 30th, 2012
6:19 pm
Barack Rambobama- war hero extraordinaire.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Got a better one for you.
George W Bush ” Fighter Pilot ”
LOL
Billybob
April 30th, 2012
6:19 pm
in all fairness jay………how bout’ them bravos the last 3 weeks?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
April 30th, 2012
6:19 pm
josef
I best be careful, otherwise he will reek havoc.
josef
April 30th, 2012
6:19 pm
Grits
That’s assuming that the turnout is in Obama’s favor and that the GOP doesn’t rally the undecided and independents…like I said, November is a long way off and the Romany Lady is still not laying odds…the Dems need to tone down on the c*cky, imauo…they made that mistake in 2008.
Thomas Heyward jr
April 30th, 2012
6:20 pm
Obama also got that sixteen -year-old American citizen….via drone.
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USA..USA..USA
getalife
April 30th, 2012
6:20 pm
willard is weak on foreign policy.
Period.
Billybob
April 30th, 2012
6:22 pm
understand point you are trying to make, but that is pure speculation……either way bin laden being gone is a good thing for all americans
ty webb
April 30th, 2012
6:23 pm
I’m just glad that our leftist friends are finally pulling for the good guys and are not worried how we’re treating the bad guys…now that’s “change” we can all be proud of.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 30th, 2012
6:23 pm
That’s assuming that the turnout is in Obama’s favor and that the GOP doesn’t rally the undecided and independents…like I said, November is a long way off and the Romany Lady is still not laying odds…the Dems need to tone down on the c*cky, imauo…they made that mistake in 2008.
Nothing is a sure thing. Especially in politics.
But all things being equal Id much rather be in Obama’s shoes right now.
Like I said . Electorally he has a much easier road.
getalife
April 30th, 2012
6:25 pm
It just got nasty and our President won on foreign policy.
willard will wind up on social issues.
Big Stick just thumped willard.
They BOTH suck
April 30th, 2012
6:25 pm
Pass the Cheesy Grits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMj_S_KwahI
The last line is amazing
Billybob
April 30th, 2012
6:25 pm
romney/giuliani 2012…….you heard it here first…….?
Thomas Heyward jr
April 30th, 2012
6:26 pm
Why isn’t the Obama/Romney drones bragging about this?
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A group of Pakistanis met in Islamabad late last month to discuss the impact of U.S. drone strikes in their communities. One of the attendees was a 16-year-old boy named Tariq Aziz, who had volunteered to learn photography to begin documenting drone strikes near his home. Within 72 hours of the meeting, Aziz was killed in a U.S. drone strike. His 12-year-old cousin was also killed in the Oct. 31 attack. “People were aware of the threat to them. Yet they volunteered—Tariq, in particular, because he, at his age in that remote community, was familiar with computers, was excited about the idea of being able to document the civilian casualties,” says reporter Pratap Chatterjee, who met Aziz days before he was killed. As part of a larger investigation on the CIA-led U.S. covert drone war, Chatterjee and the Bureau of Investigative Journalism reports that drone strikes in Pakistan have killed at least 392 civilians, including 175 children. “I question as to whether the CIA is really attempting to identify people before they kill them,” he says. “It would have been so easy for the CIA, the ISI, to come question these kids, to have taken them aside, even put them in jail or interrogated them… But instead they chose to kill them.”
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USA..USA..USA.
Jm
April 30th, 2012
6:26 pm
Obama is weak on the economy
Period
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 30th, 2012
6:26 pm
I’m just glad that our leftist friends are finally pulling for the good guys and are not worried how we’re treating the bad guys
Still worried about how we are treating the bad guys. That hasn’t changed.
You see when you treat the bad guys harshly it gives the other side license to do the same to our POW’s. I know I know they are going to do it anyway. Still doesn’t make it right and you lose to moral high ground.
In effect when you are torturing Foreign POW’s you are in essence torturing American POW’s.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 30th, 2012
6:27 pm
Obama is weak on the economy
Period
Not according to the numbers.
Period
josef
April 30th, 2012
6:27 pm
Cheesy
I would agree with you that Obama has the edge now (and hopefully will keep it through election day, even if I probably won’t be voting for him), but I’m not laying any bets just yet…
Brosephus™
April 30th, 2012
6:27 pm
What makes what he’s doing so unseemly is that he’s using it to attack Romney.
So, Republicans can attack Obama saying that he can’t run against his record. At the same time, Obama CAN’T use his record to attack Republicans. Ok. Sounds like you’re asking for the game to be rigged in favor of the GOP. You can bet that the GOP will attack Obama on his record. I see nothing wrong with him attacking back using his record.
In theory, it would be nice if our campaigns were free of the negative attacks. Then again, in theory, it would be great if politicians actually told the truth all the time too. In this particular case, I see the GOP crying foul just as the Democrats did when Republicans ran on 9/11 as a background to national security in 2004.
getalife
April 30th, 2012
6:28 pm
jm,
Did he flip flop on the ryan plan yet?
F. Sinkwich
April 30th, 2012
6:28 pm
Jay, you’ve posted some stupid blogs here, but this one wins the prize.
Romney wouldn’t have gone after OBL?
Hell, even the king of loser lib ilk presidents, Jimmy Carter, would have made that same call.
Even you, Jay, would have.
Sheeeeesh.
Thomas Heyward jr
April 30th, 2012
6:29 pm
Greenwald has Bookman’s number————–
“This dog-training treatment of media figures was just as prevalent — and just as effective — during the Bush years (although, as someone with many dogs, I can honestly say that actual dogs are much more difficult to train than these journalists, who just need one or two biscuit crumbs in exchange for life-long devotion and obedience).”
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USA..USA..USA
USMC
April 30th, 2012
6:30 pm
“USMC is white? Do tell…”–josef
LOL! Actually I am mixed! But to fit into GM’s demented view of life I can play any part you need me to but I don’t have my SAG card. May be GM should call my agent first.
Oscar
April 30th, 2012
6:30 pm
F. Sinkwich
April 30th, 2012
6:28 pm
______
But George W. did not.
Billybob
April 30th, 2012
6:30 pm
thanks for the second sinkwich……….
Thulsa Doom
April 30th, 2012
6:30 pm
“Not according to the numbers.
Period”
APPARENTLY PASS THE CHEESY GRITS THINKS THAT A RECORD NUMBER OF MONTHS WITH UNEMPLOYMENT ABOVE 8% AND A REVISED ESTIMATE OF ECONOMIC GROWTH DOWNWARD TO 2% FOR 2012 IS GOOD ECONOMIC NUMBERS. YOU CANT MAKE THIS STUFF UP. THIS GUY ACTUALLY THINKS THE OBAMA ECONOMY IS GOOD. GAWD THAT IS FUNNY!!!
ty webb
April 30th, 2012
6:31 pm
“But George W. did not.”
and I’ll raise you a “But Clinton did not”…waving poms poms is so easy.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 30th, 2012
6:32 pm
My favorite Bush moment was the on where he was asked about anything he would have done differently or done wrong in office.
Of course he couldn’t think of not one single thing. Not one.
Such is the level of the neocon’s delusion.
Billybob
April 30th, 2012
6:32 pm
w didn’t have the chance to make that call oscar………..let’s make that distinction……
pogo
April 30th, 2012
6:32 pm
Oh yea, “Blogspot is ready when you are” blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Translated, “how dare you disagree with our dearest and most beloved host who provides us with an avenue to our virtual friends”?
The libs on this blog are waaaay to predictable in their responses. Case in point, the phrase, “but, but, but”. Another sad diversionary tactic developed to shield Obama from his failures by implying that he shouldn’t be blamed for some reason he doesn’t deserve even when there is proof otherwise. Makes one see how histories political lemmings were created by the dictators. All these leaders had to do was be “cool” enough and promise the people something for nothing and they had their followers by the “nads”, so to speak. Just as is happening today.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
April 30th, 2012
6:33 pm
Blah, blah, blah, Jimmy Carter blah, blah, blah.
You too can post like a con. Just follow my three easy lessons for just $19.95. Act now, and you receive a set of Ginsu knives.
F. Sinkwich
April 30th, 2012
6:33 pm
Even the Mittster agrees with me:
“Mitt Romney said Monday that he would have ordered the raid that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden, remarks that came in response to Democratic suggestions that Mr. Romney might not have ordered the strike last year had he been president. “Even Jimmy Carter would have given that order,” Mr. Romney told reporters…”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 30th, 2012
6:35 pm
Well I see some still lack a sense of proportion and understanding of the hole that Bush left….. not funny at all….so very sad.
Jm
April 30th, 2012
6:36 pm
Getalife
Don’t know don’t care
F. Sinkwich
April 30th, 2012
6:36 pm
Welcome, billy….
josef
April 30th, 2012
6:36 pm
USMC
What else do you and President Obama have in common….hmmm?
Billybob
April 30th, 2012
6:37 pm
the fall campaign will expose all the leftist media tricks and the utter failure of that media to sway public opinion……….with that said, obama has no record to run on and romney can win by running on obama’s record……what romney should do is run on ideas to grow the economy and let obama’s own words help romney get elected…….
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 30th, 2012
6:37 pm
YOU CANT MAKE THIS STUFF UP. THIS GUY ACTUALLY THINKS THE OBAMA ECONOMY IS GOOD.
It is. Hey our business is booming. We are hiring new people all the time.
If you aren’t doing well maybe you should stop blaming the government for all your problems.
Bottom line stay out of my way. Im doing just fine.
Thomas Heyward jr
April 30th, 2012
6:38 pm
Greenwald further exposes the sickness———————–
“After years of being mocked by the Right as Terrorist-coddling weaklings, Obama — strutting around touting his own strength — lets them feel strong and powerful in exactly the way that Bush and Cheney’s swaggering let conservatives prance around as tough-guy, play-acting warriors. Rather than ignore this aggression, Democratic think tanks point with beaming pride to the corpses piled up by the Democratic Commander-in-Chief to argue that he’s been such a resounding foreign policy “success,” while Democratic pundits celebrate and defend the political value of his majestic kills.
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Yesterday on his MSNBC morning show, Chris Hayes conducted an excellent, two-part discussion of Obama’s escalated civilian-killing drone attacks, with a heavy emphasis on the innocent people, including numerous children, who have been killed. He showed a harrowing video clip of a Yemeni man’s anguish as he described the pregnant women and children killed by Obama’s 2009 cluster bomb strike; featured the U.S. drone killing of 16-year-old American citizen Abdulrahman Awlaki in Yemen; and interviewed human rights lawyer Clive Stafford Smith, who described the 16-year-old Pakistani boy he met at a meeting to discuss civilian drone deaths and who, a mere 3 days later, had his own life ended by an American drone.
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USA ..USA…USA
Soothsayer
April 30th, 2012
6:39 pm
Now where did that come from?
Thomas Heyward jr
April 30th, 2012
6:39 pm
“corpses piled up by the Democratic Commander-in-Chief to argue that he’s been such a resounding foreign policy “success,” while Democratic pundits celebrate and defend the political value of his majestic kills.”
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sick
F. Sinkwich
April 30th, 2012
6:39 pm
Bush !!!!
Can RACISM be far behind?
Nope.
Brosephus™
April 30th, 2012
6:40 pm
Mark in Midtown
If you come back through, check that 1st 6:37 for proof of what I’m talking about.
the fall campaign will expose all the leftist media tricks and the utter failure of that media to sway public opinion……….with that said, obama has no record to run on and romney can win by running on obama’s record……
Yet, this topic is about Obama attacking Romney using his record as the slap jack.
F. Sinkwich
April 30th, 2012
6:41 pm
“It is. Hey our business is booming. We are hiring new people all the time.”
Pass manufactures food stamp cards.
josef
April 30th, 2012
6:42 pm
Billybob
“.with that said, obama has no record to run on and romney can win by running on obama’s record…”
Who says you can’t have it both ways?
getalife
April 30th, 2012
6:43 pm
Jimmy Carter attack?
willard is weak on national security.
Period.
They BOTH suck
April 30th, 2012
6:43 pm
“the fall campaign will expose all the leftist media tricks and the utter failure of that media to sway public opinion”
That jibberish has been stated for the Presidential and mid-terms for how many elections now?
It is pretty much unspoken slogan ……………….
Get ready for the Muslim and birther anthems to crank up as well
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
April 30th, 2012
6:44 pm
Jimmy Carter !!!!
Can FOOD STAMP be far behind?
Nope.
josef
April 30th, 2012
6:44 pm
“Pass manufactures food stamp cards.”
Nyah. He designs prom dresses.
Jay
April 30th, 2012
6:46 pm
Romney wouldn’t have gone after OBL?
Hell, even the king of loser lib ilk presidents, Jimmy Carter, would have made that same call.
Even you, Jay, would have.
I like to think I would have too, Sinkwich. But let’s remember that Robert Gates — no one’s idea of a pacifist Defense Sec — argued against the operation, wanting to simply bomb the compound to lessen the risk. Biden agreed with Gates. Obama overruled them, which the experienced Gates called “one of the most courageous calls – decisions — that I think I’ve ever seen a president make.”
So no, I don’t think we can assume that other presidents would have made the same call. The claim by Romney given his remarks on the subject are akin to his claims that he too would have rescued GM, a claim that he did not make during the primaries.
Billybob
April 30th, 2012
6:46 pm
sometimes you can josef, usually a coincidence though, don’t you think…..
Paul
April 30th, 2012
6:47 pm
Heyward 6:26
“A group of Pakistanis met in Islamabad late last month to discuss the impact of U.S. drone strikes ”
Do you have a point, or do you just like to cut and paste stuff?
If you do have a point, what is it?
That we should stop the drone strikes?
If so, how do you get the bad guys?
Send in ground forces?
Or let them operate unimpeded?
Or continue the strikes, but send in ground teams to knock on doors and ask for picture ID and DNA samples of the residents?
You do have a point, with a well-thought out alternative, don’t you?
getalife
April 30th, 2012
6:48 pm
Things are going well.
Knock on wood.
Jm
April 30th, 2012
6:50 pm
Romney would’ve bombed or sent in troops
Either way OBL dead
josef
April 30th, 2012
6:50 pm
Sinkwich
Some stock tips for you…put your money where your mouth is…
http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturers/ebt-card-manufacturer.html
Soothsayer
April 30th, 2012
6:51 pm
When piles of carefully researched books, released government documents, and testimony of eye witnesses made it clear that Oswald was not President John F. Kennedy’s assassin, the voluminous research, government documents, and verified testimony was dismissed as “conspiracy theory.”
In other words, the truth of the event was unacceptable to the authorities and to the Ministry of Propaganda that represents the interests of authorities.
The purest example of how Americans are shielded from truth is the media’s (including many Internet sites’) response to the large number of professionals who find the official explanation of September 11, 2001, inconsistent with everything they, as experts, know about physics, chemistry, structural engineering, architecture, fires, structural damage, the piloting of airplanes, the security procedures of the United States, NORAD’s capabilities, air traffic control, airport security, and other matters. These experts, numbering in the thousands, have been shouted down by know-nothings in the media who brand the experts as “conspiracy theorists.”
This despite the fact that the official explanation endorsed by the official media is the most extravagant conspiracy theory in human history.
Let’s take a minute to re-acquaint ourselves with the official explanation, which is not regarded as a conspiracy theory despite the fact that it comprises an amazing conspiracy. The official truth is that a handful of young Muslim Arabs who could not fly airplanes, mainly Saudi Arabians who came neither from Iraq nor from Afghanistan, outwitted not only the CIA and the FBI, but also all 16 US intelligence agencies and all intelligence agencies of US allies including Israel’s Mossad, which is believed to have penetrated every terrorist organization and which carries out assassinations of those whom Mossad marks as terrorists.
In addition to outwitting every intelligence agency of the United States and its allies, the handful of young Saudi Arabians outwitted the National Security Council, the State Department, NORAD, airport security four times in the same hour on the same morning, air traffic control, caused the US Air Force to be unable to launch interceptor aircraft, and caused three well-built steel-structured buildings, including one not hit by an airplane, to fail suddenly in a few seconds as a result of limited structural damage and small, short-lived, low-temperature fires that burned on a few floors.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
April 30th, 2012
6:51 pm
How funny that Jimmy Carter did make a similar call to Obama’s and yet the same cons seem to continue to claim one of the decisions that cost Jimmy his presidency was an “easy call”…… oh wait, I guess consistency is one of the things cons are not know for.
Nancy
April 30th, 2012
6:51 pm
Actually, there’s rumor that after 10 years of being holed up in a compound with three wives, and never being able to leave his fortress, that bin Laden himself tipped off the Navy Seals.
godless heathen
April 30th, 2012
6:53 pm
I was out checking the compound and saw some of “those people” wrestling with a frig at one of the unoccupied houses in the subdivision just outside the compound’s fence. Having learned from my Newton County friends last week, I decided to perform a little covert recon before I pulled down on them with the AK. After watching for a minute I saw they were trying to get the frig into the house. Oh well, no fun tonight.
Thomas Heyward jr
April 30th, 2012
6:53 pm
Paul-
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You once defended the FDA.
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My point wwould be waaaaay above your progressive pay-grade.
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There IS no “bad guys” until they do “bad” stuff.
See TSA, CIA, IRS, Washington.
pogo
April 30th, 2012
6:55 pm
And Jay, from a political standpoint, I don’t know who is advising Obama on his campaign but he pulled the OBL card way too soon. It is being played out 7 months before the election. The American attention span is about 24 hours now. They become saturated and then they become bored. In the mean time they form other opinions based upon other things like our economy, jobs and our debt. You know, those things that you liberals want the American public to totally ignore and don’t want acknowledge that Obama has been a total failure in.
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
April 30th, 2012
6:56 pm
Its a good thing we have that fierce warrior, The Supreme Leader, on our side. I can see all our enemies cowering in fear.
Thomas Heyward jr
April 30th, 2012
6:56 pm
Heck—–Gleenwald had Paul’s number..as well——–
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Most Democratic praise for “Obama’s foreign policy successes” fails even to acknowledge, let alone condemn, the thousands of innocent people whose lives have been extinguished by his militarism. These deaths simply do not exist in their world. When you force them to address it, they’ll simply dismiss it away with the military terminology first popularized by Timothy McVeigh (that’s just “collateral damage”) and then quickly return to the Bush-era mantra of mindlessly invoking the word “Terrorism” to justify whatever violence the U.S. Government commits. They see themselves, and especially their leader, as so righteous and noble that incidents like this and this and so many others are blissfully kept far away from their consciousness because the reality of what they support cannot be reconciled with their self-perception; that, more than anything, is what explains the bitterness directed at Hayes yesterday: he publicized facts which they desperately prefer be hidden, not just from others but from themselves.
F. Sinkwich
April 30th, 2012
6:56 pm
“But let’s remember that Robert Gates — no one’s idea of a pacifist Defense Sec — argued against the operation, wanting to simply bomb the compound to lessen the risk.”
Gates is just another Bush mistake, like Harriet Myers. I think Bush did some good things and would certainly have been more effective managing the country through our economic problems than O’bozo has been, but his weakness was RINOs.
Anyone who would accept a position in the O’bozo administration is a Marxist (see Jarrett, that green jobs czar, etc.) or a pathetic RINO in need of a paycheck.
Some people have no pride. Gates is one.
Soothsayer
April 30th, 2012
6:57 pm
“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. [That our government is good. It would never harm it's own citizens, even to start wars which benefit the Military Industrial Complex and enact laws that severely restrict Constitutional rights.] When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore [and ridicule] and even deny anything that doesn’t fit in with the core belief.
– Frantz Fanon
Jay
April 30th, 2012
6:58 pm
It’s the anniversary, Pogo. The anniversary comes when it comes.
USMC
April 30th, 2012
6:58 pm
“What else do you and President Obama have in common….hmmm?”–Josef
Well I don’t smoke pot, so we don’t have that in common…
He obviously likes the dark meat while I prefer more of an International Flavor!
saywhat?
April 30th, 2012
7:00 pm
KUTGF- “How funny that Jimmy Carter did make a similar call to Obama’s and yet the same cons seem to continue to claim one of the decisions that cost Jimmy his presidency was an “easy call”…… oh wait, I guess consistency is one of the things cons are not know for”
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Ty Webb-April 30th, 2012
6:31 pm
“But George W. did not.”
and I’ll raise you a “But Clinton did not”…waving poms poms is so easy.
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Actually Clinton did, with the missile strike on a factory Osama was supposed to be meeting at- but did Republicans say “any President would have made the same call”? Nope. They criticized the decision as “wagging the dog”. Revise history much? Keep making “not intended to be factual statements”, republicans. You are only fooling yourselves.
They BOTH suck
April 30th, 2012
7:00 pm
“but his weakness was RINOs.”
And Romney is a ?
Jay
April 30th, 2012
7:03 pm
Well-asked, BOTH.
Moderate Line
April 30th, 2012
7:03 pm
They BOTH suck
April 30th, 2012
6:07 pm
Moderate
Probably boils down to what flavor of waffle you like.
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LOL!
Don’t understand people who defend ANY politician. From my perspective they are lying and people pick the lies they want to hear. Usually the ones that benefit them in our society.
godless heathen
April 30th, 2012
7:03 pm
Mitt Romney, May 2007:
“Of course we get Usama bin Laden and track him wherever he has to go, and make sure he pays for the outrage he exacted upon America,” Romney said.
Asked if that meant moving heaven and earth, Romney said: “We’ll move everything to get him. But I don’t want to buy into the Democratic pitch that this is all about one person. … It’s more than Usama bin Laden. But he is going to pay, and he will die.”
josef
April 30th, 2012
7:04 pm
BOTH
“And Romney is a ?”
Obama in white face?
saywhat
@ 7:00
But…but…
USMC
saywhat?
April 30th, 2012
7:04 pm
Jay
April 30th, 2012
6:58 pm
It’s the anniversary, Pogo. The anniversary comes when it comes.
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Thats B.S. Jay. Obama timed the attack to have the one year anniversary happen exactly at the same time the Republican nominee would be determined. I believe he made these plans while planting his false birth announcement in the Hawaiian news papers. He’s tricky that way.
Old Goober
April 30th, 2012
7:05 pm
A new law that allows Georgians to buy health insurance plans approved by other states was envisioned as free-market solution that would lower prices and increase choices. So far, the law has failed to produce results: Not a single insurer is offering a policy under the new law.
“Nobody has even asked to be approved to sell across state lines,” Georgia Insurance Commissioner Ralph Hudgens said. “We’re dumbfounded. We are absolutely dumbfounded.” AJC
Well, I declare! I hope this state’s Republicans weren’t lying to me about lowering insurance costs by opening the state up to competition.
Soothsayer
April 30th, 2012
7:06 pm
The Saudi terrorists were even able to confound the laws of physics and cause WTC building seven to collapse at free fall speed for several seconds, a physical impossibility in the absence of explosives used in controlled demolition.
The story that the government and the media have told us amounts to a gigantic conspiracy, really a script for a James Bond film. Yet, anyone who doubts this improbable conspiracy theory is defined into irrelevance by the obedient media.
Anyone who believes an architect, structural engineer, or demolition expert who says that the videos show that the buildings are blowing up, not falling down, anyone who believes a Ph.D. physicist who says that the official explanation is inconsistent with known laws of physics, anyone who believes expert pilots who testify that non-pilots or poorly-qualified pilots cannot fly airplanes in such maneuvers, anyone who believes the 100 or more first responders who testify that they not only heard explosions in the towers but personally experienced explosions, anyone who believes University of Copenhagen nano-chemist Niels Harrit who reports finding unreacted nano-thermite in dust samples from the WTC towers, anyone who is convinced by experts instead of by propaganda is dismissed as a kook.
In America today, and increasingly throughout the Western world, actual facts and true explanations have been relegated to the realm of kookiness. Only people who believe lies are socially approved and accepted as patriotic citizens.
Indeed, a writer or newscaster is not even permitted to report the findings of 9/11 skeptics. In other words, simply to report Professor Harrit’s findings now means that you endorse them or agree with them. Everyone in the US print and TV media knows that he/she will be instantly fired if they report Harrit’s findings, even with a laugh. Thus, although Harrit has reported his findings on European television and has lectured widely on his findings in Canadian universities, the fact that he and the international scientific research team that he led found unreacted nano-thermite in the WTC dust and have offered samples to other scientists to examine has to my knowledge never been reported in the American media.
USMC
April 30th, 2012
7:06 pm
Romney TAKES lead in Polls…
http://www.gallup.com/poll/150743/Obama-Romney.aspx
tick tock, tick tock, tick tock…
Paul
April 30th, 2012
7:07 pm
Heyward
“You once defended the FDA.”
What, now you’re advocating letting the ‘free market’ regulate e coli?
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“My point wwould be waaaaay above your progressive pay-grade.”
Translation: “I just like to cut and paste stuff.”
They BOTH suck
April 30th, 2012
7:07 pm
josef
hahahahahaha
I’m not saying that being a RINO in itself is a bad thing, but if someone is calling out RINO’s from the Bush administration………. prevailing wisdom probably says get ready for a bunch more if Romney is elected
Thomas Heyward jr
April 30th, 2012
7:08 pm
Why you all bragg about the blood, here is how a real American would have handled it————–
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“It was absolutely not necessary and I think respect for the rule of law, international law – what if he’d been in a hotel in London?” Paul asked. “We wanted to keep it secret. Would we have sent the helicopters into London? Because they were afraid the information would get out. No you don’t want to do that.”
Paul said the U.S. government should have worked with the Pakistani government, respecting borders, to get at Osama bin Laden. He pointed to other terror suspects who were captured and tried. Paul pointed to the arrest of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, widely accepted as the 9/11 mastermind, by Pakistani authorities. Mohammed now sits at Guantanamo Bay awaiting trial by a military tribunal.
Paul also pointed to the capture and trial of “Blind Sheikh”, Omar Abdel Rahman, who was arrested in Brooklyn and tried and convicted in U.S. court.
“What’s wrong with that?” Paul asked. “Why can’t we work with the government?”
They BOTH suck
April 30th, 2012
7:09 pm
Moderate @ 7:03
To a great extent I would have to agree
I certainly lean towards to the left, but I am no more enamored in how Dems run the show when they are in charge of the House, Senate or WH in terms of petty politics, etc then I am with the Republicans
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
April 30th, 2012
7:11 pm
I salute Obama for killing bin Laden. There was a chorus of people who said we shouldn’t have crossed into Pakistan to do it. I think it is obvious Obama had to OK crossing into Pakistan so give him props for approving that.
Some of you have to occasionally put the Kool-aid down and say the other side did something good every once in a while. Try it and your soul will feel good.
Soothsayer
April 30th, 2012
7:13 pm
Not so fast there, corporal.