Would Romney have gotten bin Laden? Well, maybe

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In 2007, then-candidate Barack Obama made it clear what he would do as president if he learned that Osama bin Laden was hiding in Pakistan and that U.S. forces had a chance to take him out:

“If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and (Pakistani) President Musharraf won’t act, we will.”

His then-opponent, Hillary Clinton, took a similar stance:

“If we had actionable intelligence that Osama bin Laden or other high-value targets were in Pakistan I would ensure that they were targeted and killed or captured.”

However, another presidential candidate took issue with such statements, as Reuters reported at the time:

“I do not concur in the words of Barack Obama in a plan to enter an ally of ours… I don’t think those kinds of comments help in this effort to draw more friends to our effort,” (Mitt) Romney told reporters on the campaign trail….

Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who is one of the Republican front-runners, said U.S. troops “shouldn’t be sent all over the world.” He called Obama’s comments “ill-timed” and “ill-considered.”

“There is a war being waged by terrorists of different types and nature across the world,” Romney said. “We want, as a civilized world, to participate with other nations in this civilized effort to help those nations reject the extreme with them.”

In 2008, as the primary season heated up, the debate continued.

“It’s not worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person,” Romney said in a GOP debate. After that statement drew harsh criticism from John McCain and others, Romney toughened his language a few days later, suggesting that he would indeed target bin Laden.

Obama, on the other hand, stuck to his original position:

“We need more troops, more helicopters, more satellites, more Predator drones in the Afghan border region. And we must make it clear that if Pakistan cannot or will not act, we will take out high-level terrorist targets like bin Laden if we have them in our sights.”

Based on the evidence, it’s too much to argue that Romney would not have committed the manpower and money needed to track bin Laden. You also can’t argue that Romney would have balked at sending troops into Pakistan to kill the terrorist leader. Maybe he would have.

But against that “maybe,” you have the fact that another man had told us quite clearly what he would do if given the chance, and then did it.

– Jay Bookman

448 comments Add your comment

josef

April 30th, 2012
4:51 pm

This ought to be more fun than economics and climate change!

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

April 30th, 2012
4:52 pm

Multiple Choice Mitt….

If he was forced to eat all of his flip flop words he’d make Chris Christie look like Jack Sprat.

josef

April 30th, 2012
4:53 pm

Obama is awfully hawkish for a Euro Socialist Muslim, ain’t he?

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

April 30th, 2012
4:55 pm

I hear the right is claiming President Obama is making this political.

I deny this completely.

He has not even ordered a flight suit!

Murph

April 30th, 2012
4:55 pm

“It’s not worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person,” Romney said in a Republican debate. That statement drew harsh criticism from John McCain and others”
You need to cut this line Jay. The next sentence is redundant.

Otherwise, point well taken.

We will see many more instances in the near future where Romney will refuse (or try) to take responsibility for his own words.

getalife

April 30th, 2012
4:56 pm

Our first flip flop for willard.

He said he would not go after obl.

Our President won this one.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

April 30th, 2012
4:56 pm

I heard a rumor that the Seals killed Osama bin Laden by hitting him with Obama’s Nobel peace prize.

Rim shot….OK I will get my coat. :)

Dave

April 30th, 2012
4:58 pm

You’re right about Romney maybe recanting his election rhetoric – Obama did with respect to Guantanamo, being out of Afghanistan, gay issues and a number of things he was going to “change.” Just this week the new slogan came out – “Forward.” “Let’s forget about what I said last time around about hope and change, I’m still the only hope you’ve got if you aren’t a right-wing Neanderthal. Let’s move forward together.”

It comes down to you can’t believe a word any politician says. I’m going to vote for the Forward guy but I’m not at all happy about it.

getalife

April 30th, 2012
4:58 pm

Double tap.

Can’t wait to see the video in the future.

Soothsayer

April 30th, 2012
4:58 pm

Romney: I’m not so sure.

Now McCain: he would have nuked the entire area to be sure he got him! So . . . a couple of million other people died. No big deal!

Thomas Heyward jr

April 30th, 2012
4:59 pm

Basic Decency would require a trial.
.
Decent people brag ..not….over murder.
.
You proggies sure have come a long way.

josef

April 30th, 2012
4:59 pm

STEVE

I don’t care who you are, thass funny! :-)

HEY, IMAM

You don’t seem to know if you’re coming or going….

Dave

April 30th, 2012
5:01 pm

Jay, I think you are lecturing the commenter about economics on the wrong thread.

getalife

April 30th, 2012
5:01 pm

Starting off this election by talking about getting obl and willard’s first flip flop is genius.

Brilliant.

larry

April 30th, 2012
5:01 pm

I dont think Romney would have the guts to pull the trigger to go after Bin Laden. He probably would pull a Bush and say that OBL isnt important. Then he would say we must proceed with the ” War on Terror” and give some goofy response.

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

April 30th, 2012
5:01 pm

Cheesy Grits is gonna have a hard time with this one.

getalife

April 30th, 2012
5:02 pm

thomas,

That is hilarious.

Jay

April 30th, 2012
5:02 pm

Obama did with respect to Guantanamo, being out of Afghanistan, gay issues and a number of things he was going to “change

No, Dave, he did not.

Obama has not changed his position on closing Guantanamo. He has simply failed to convince Congress to agree with him. That is not a flip-flop.

Contrary to your claim, Obama campaigned on putting two new brigades into Afghanistan; he has done exactly what he said he would do.

He said he would end “do not ask, do not tell,” and he has done so.

Those are all facts, Dave.

Tom Middleton

April 30th, 2012
5:03 pm

Well, we sent President Bush to Afghanistan to get Bin Laden, and he did balk and then took us to an unnecessary war in Iraq. After that, he dismantled the intelligence unit activated to find him, and as far as the Bush administration was concerned, it was over.

Thank you, President Obama, for doing what we asked Bush to do. Now we know what real leadership character is all about, and we are very, very grateful.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

April 30th, 2012
5:03 pm

Basic indecency?

Lying about smoking guns and mushroom clouds to justify an invasion.

josef

April 30th, 2012
5:03 pm

Thomas

Murder? Now that’s just TOO funny…

Soothsayer

April 30th, 2012
5:03 pm

I know I’m going to take heat for this. But, I don’t believe that Osama bin Laden was killed in any Seal raid. I think he had been dead for years.

If the Seals killed OBL why wouldn’t they have returned his body under refrigeration to the United States for verification? I mean, here is the World’s most wanted terrorist. It just doesn’t make sense.

If you believe this story, then you believe that if you buy 2 you actually do get one free!

A bunch of baloney.

Paul

April 30th, 2012
5:05 pm

This is so cool.

A thread about a Lib Democrat who’s ups wartime troop levels, puts the CIA on notice getting OBL is a top priority and goes against most of his advisors in making the call to launch a SEAL team into Pakistan to kill OBL.

Bumped up against the con Republican’s nominee, who may not have done any of those things.

And now we get to watch the arguments of both sides defending their guy and savaging the other.

Warrior, take no prisoners Democrats vs back off and let things ride Republicans.

Double cool.

getalife

April 30th, 2012
5:05 pm

“Basic Decency would require a trial.
.
Decent people brag ..not….over murder.
.
You proggies sure have come a long way.”

Cracked me up :)

josef

April 30th, 2012
5:05 pm

getalife

D*mn! We’re TOO much in synch today…we need to talk about the Wah-uh! :-)

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

April 30th, 2012
5:06 pm

Well, Romney would of not only got bin Laden but turned him into a Mormon. See, bin Laden was already halfway there. He never touched booze and he had a whole bunch of wifes. It’s just that he had to learn about the Golden Tablets and maybe go on a mission or two to other countrys. And maybe do a better job of firing people instead of just outright killing them. And maybe get a car elevator put in his house.

This has been my answer to a silly question asked by Bookman. Have a good night everybody.

ragnar danneskjold

April 30th, 2012
5:06 pm

Best line I saw this weekend, the Obamaniacs are crazy to raise the question of whether Romney would have authorized the SEALs to do their job. Even Dennis Kucinich would have authorized the shot. The funniest story I have heard – no basis, may be apocryphal – is that Obama delayed the decision (as always) for about three weeks, risking losing the window for action. Another funny story – similarly apocryphal, may not be true – is that he had to be dragged off the golf course for the photo-op.

The sad thing is that this is the great achievement of the Messiah. A decision that any idiot would have made.

JamVet

April 30th, 2012
5:06 pm

The question is, would the battle-hardened Flip, “Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof, the smoking gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.”, do a GeeDub and attack the wrong country again?

Maybe the inept neocons could build an idiotic case to justify botching an invasion of ………….Slovenia.

jm

April 30th, 2012
5:07 pm

Arianna Huffington: Obama ad ‘despicable’
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75742.html

josef

April 30th, 2012
5:07 pm

Sooth

Oh, dear! Another conspiracy. And how do the international zionist hoodlum na zi Jew bankers figure in? :-)

Thomas

April 30th, 2012
5:07 pm

Where is this universe in which these things that you claim are true? It sure isn’t THIS universe

Sure is Bookman- QE3 or broke for the WH

Stock market working because no company is missing, unfortunately, the current unemployed.

Recent data trending top left to bottom right.

Paul

April 30th, 2012
5:08 pm

Thomas Heyward Jr.

Okay, you gonna enlighten us on how that was murder?

Time for some popcorn -

ragnar danneskjold

April 30th, 2012
5:08 pm

Dear Soothsayer @ 5:03, I confess that I think similarly – one of the few conspiracy theories I have bought into. No basis, mere suspicion.

They BOTH suck

April 30th, 2012
5:08 pm

I say yes……….. He would have made the same call………

Casual Observer

April 30th, 2012
5:08 pm

Maybe he can get that other darling of the left John Edwards to join him also.

Soothsayer

April 30th, 2012
5:09 pm

Well, now. Jm has returned under and new nom de blogue: Thomas Heyward, Jr. What happened to — what was that other name you were using? Somebody help me out here. Oh, yea! Lyman Hall. What a joke!

Jm: if you’re going to post as a sock puppet, at least change your writing style.

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

April 30th, 2012
5:09 pm

I know I’m going to take heat for this. But, I don’t believe that Osama bin Laden was killed in any Seal raid. I think he had been dead for years.

And rightfully so. Did you know we have landed on the moon ?

Soothsayer

April 30th, 2012
5:09 pm

See, rag, you do have some redeeming qualities after all.

Paul

April 30th, 2012
5:10 pm

ragnar

“The funniest story I have heard – no basis, may be apocryphal – is that Obama delayed the decision (as always) for about three weeks, risking losing the window for action. ”

That’s easily verifiable.

The fact it fills a part of the blogosphere doesn’t say much about the reading ability of participants in those sites.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

April 30th, 2012
5:11 pm

“And rightfully so. Did you know we have landed on the moon?”

Please. I am begging you, don’t ask him about 9/11.

265 more days

April 30th, 2012
5:11 pm

You rats, Jay included, keep on talking about Mitt’s flip flopping, and maybe you are correct, I just prefer to take it as a person who will listen to others opinoins and change his if necessary, as all politicians do………………I seem to remember a young man from Chicago, about four years ago, was also a good flipper, and still is……………….just saying

They BOTH suck

April 30th, 2012
5:13 pm

Soothsayer

I may have asked you this before, so I apologize if this is a redundant question…..

Do you ever check out Alex Jones show or his website at all?

Soothsayer

April 30th, 2012
5:14 pm

“Please. I am begging you, don’t ask him about 9/11.”

What I’m waiting for is for Jay to have a blog post about 9/11. Unfortunately, if he did, the AJC and Ann Cox Chambers would have his desk boxed up and escort him out of the building.

The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers

April 30th, 2012
5:15 pm

Romney did not have the same information that Obama did when he decided to send the boys in, so this argument is bogus and Jay Bookman and the rest of the liberal media trumping this during campaign season to try and get the golfing Kenyan and his world traveling wife back in the white house. Unfortunately, many of us look at more of the same that we accuse republicans of. Like job czar Jeff Immult sending more jobs overseas. http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/wach/jobs-czar-sends-american-jobs-to-china571/ Unfortunately, in an economy that thrives on consumption, the loss of value in the housing market, the lower wages of jobs created under Obama, and the higher prices of food and gas, electric, etc. this consumption based economy’s slight growth will probably not turn a real corner any time soon for the nominally skilled worker.

Paul

April 30th, 2012
5:15 pm

Always good to read the context of a sound bite.

One can make the case our President was a bit fixated. That he made a calculation with heavy political significance.

‘What Romney Said About bin Laden”

“So just what did Romney say in that interview? Yes, he did say “moving heaven and earth,” but he also discussed at some length a greater war on terror that targeted not only al Qaeda but other terrorist groups as well. For the record, this is the exchange between Romney and Associated Press reporter Liz Sidoti:

SIDOTI: Why haven’t we caught bin Laden in your opinion?

GOVERNOR ROMNEY: I think, I wouldn’t want to over-concentrate on Bin Laden. He’s one of many, many people who are involved in this global Jihadist effort. He’s by no means the only leader. It’s a very diverse group – Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood and of course different names throughout the world. It’s not worth moving heaven and earth and spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person. It is worth fashioning and executing an effective strategy to defeat global, violent Jihad and I have a plan for doing that.

SIDOTI: But would the world be safer if bin laden were caught?

GOVERNOR ROMNEY: Yes, but by a small percentage increase – a very insignificant increase in safety by virtue of replacing bin Laden with someone else. Zarqawi – we celebrated the killing of Zarqawi, but he was quickly replaced. Global Jihad is not an effort that is being populated by a handful or even a football stadium full of people. It is – it involves millions of people and is going to require a far more comprehensive strategy than a targeted approach for bin laden or a few of his associates.

SIDOTI: Do you fault the administration for not catching him though? I mean, they’ve had quite a few years going after him.

GOVERNOR ROMNEY: There are many things that have not been done perfectly in any conduct of war. In the Second World War, we paratroopered in our troops further than they were supposed to be from the beaches. We landed in places on the beaches that weren’t anticipated. Do I fault Eisenhower? No, he won. And I’m nowhere near as consumed with bin Laden as I am concerned about global Jihadist efforts.”

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/what-romney-said-about-bin-laden/507496

Jay

April 30th, 2012
5:16 pm

Sooth, I haven’t posted about that absolutely ridiculous theory solely because it is an absolutely ridiculous theory. It ain’t worth the electrons, and electrons are very very cheap.

Soothsayer

April 30th, 2012
5:16 pm

They BOTH: no I’ve never heard of him before.

josef

April 30th, 2012
5:20 pm

Soros got bin Laden.

What WAR on women?

April 30th, 2012
5:20 pm

Don’t Mess with Texas Women

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________________________________________

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Jm

April 30th, 2012
5:20 pm

Sooth put the tin foil hat away

I have no idea who the heyward person is

Too busy to play games today

GT

April 30th, 2012
5:20 pm

It is so much easier remembering you promises when you don’t flip flop. Obama ran what most people have called one of the most organized presidential campaigns ever, in his first election. It would stand to reason that an organized man would remember his promises, when he made one he put more than yesterday’s news into his thought process and if asked the same question again he would, unless something factually had changed pretty well give you the same answer. Kennedy use to say the reason he looked so much fresher than Nixon, in their campaign, was it takes a lot more energy to make up lies than it does to be the same honest answer on every question.

Romney is already trying to reedit his stance on women. If you are a woman or a illegal immigrate, he is trying to soften that to, or a citizen period how can you plan you future by a crap shoot. Why would you want to? Obama may not have all the answers but at least he has honest answers and there will be no whoops involved after he flip flops on a whole segment of Americans to curry favor with another.

They BOTH suck

April 30th, 2012
5:20 pm

Sooth

Check him out……. He is a big 9/11 truther, OBL was killed yrs ago or not killed at all, Ron Paul guy

pogo

April 30th, 2012
5:21 pm

For Jay to infer that any American president would not have gotten Bin Laden if they had the chance is pathetic “well maybe”. The intelligence network that Bush and the Pentagon laid out years ahead of Obama’s election was the set-up for the operation. The real credit goes to those intelligence and military personnel that were involved in setting this thing up and executing it. Now Obama is asking everyone to believe that it was his involvement that made the operation successful. This is at the very best incredibly arrogant and at the very worst the act of a desperate politician who knows he has nothing else to fall back on. Being the consumate “reed in the wind” politician that Obama is, if for one moment he would have thought that this mission had a chance of failure and that it could hurt his political ambitions, he would have called it off. Our Intelligence and our Military are the ones that deserve the credit for this, not Obama. Given the same set of circumstances, any American president would have done the same.

Oh yea, another Obama stormtrooper got the ax today. Not because he was doing something the Obama administration disagreed with but because he was caught on tape doing it. Al Armendariz, the EPA regional director in Texas (the Crucifier) turned in his resignation to Lisa Jackson and she quickly accepted it. The “crucifier” must have gotten the message that no-one, and they mean no-one, makes Obama look bad in an election year even if that person was just carrying out the policies that the administration have asked for from their agencies department heads. Thus, Obama throws another acoloyte under the bus. Of course, those working for this administration should expect this type of treatment. They are working for one who is not above using fascist techniques to achieve his political goals. Loyalty doesn’t mean squat to this demagogue.

Jay

April 30th, 2012
5:21 pm

and heyward is NOT jm

Paul

April 30th, 2012
5:22 pm

What WAR?

Thanks for that. Perry’s gonna run for guv again but his dismal, embarrassing performance in the primaries means it’s the best shot in a long time to unseat him. Particularly if a respected Republican challenges him. It’s still a bit much to hope a Democrat could beat him in the general election.

Paul

April 30th, 2012
5:23 pm

Jay 5:21

Heyward is NOT Jm?

You mean…. there’s TWO of them?!!?

JohnnyReb

April 30th, 2012
5:23 pm

The only thing that has changed since this subject was “worn out” previously on this thread is, Romney is the potential nominee. Wait…wait…, no it’s not. Something else has changed. And what could that be boys and girls? Low and behold, little Barry has changed his mind; otherwise known as a flip flop.

Obama stated at the time he should not spike the football, so to speak, about getting OBL. Now with Romney as the nominee and killing OBL probably the only thing on his record he can crow about, he spikes the football.

And who narrates a praising comment in the commercial? None other than slick Willie who had an opportunity to get OBL but turned it down. Did you Clinton lovers get that? Willie had a chance to get OBL and did not – that was pre-9/11. Now Willie praises Barry for doing what he would not. This is a circus.

If this is the best little Barry has, he might as well fold the tent now.

Loretta Paraguassu

April 30th, 2012
5:23 pm

I like the way you built to the punch line. Great — as usual.

Soothsayer

April 30th, 2012
5:23 pm

Jay, whatever absolutely ridiculous theory are you talking about?

1. That a single jet aircraft can “pulverize” (look this up) a 110-story, 80,000 ton building?

2. That there was massive shorting of airline stocks prior to 9/11?

3. That the new owner of the Twin Towers and Building 7 made over $3.5 billion on their destruction?

4. That never before, nor since, has a steel-framed building “collapsed” on account of fire?

5. That 1,500+ architects and engineers completely discredit the NIST (National Institute of Standards and Testing) account of what happened, including the so-called “pancake” collapse.

6. That a group of Saudi “terrorists” could somehow elude NORAD and our military and carry out this absurd plot?

Are those the theories you’re talking about?

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

April 30th, 2012
5:24 pm

Do you ever check out Alex Jones show or his website at all?

Talk about a nutjob.

The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers

April 30th, 2012
5:25 pm

GT….If you are a woman or a illegal immigrate,

What the he!! is an immigrate? Did you really go to GT? Just asking, i cant deduce if its immigrant or ingrate that you were referring to.

Mark in mid-town

April 30th, 2012
5:25 pm

I think Obama deserves all the credit in the world for his call last year. It’s not clear at all that others would have made the same call. That being said, Obama’s using this in a campaign ad the way he did is about the most unseemly thing I’ve seen a sitting president do with regard to running a campaign ad. It’s truly pathetic to politicize this the way he has, and quite stupid as well as I think it’s turned a lot of people off, including ever some of his supporters in the msm who are having trouble stomaching this.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

April 30th, 2012
5:25 pm

Osama bin Laden died from the clogged arteries he got from following all of Paula Deen’s recipes.

Just sayin’.

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

April 30th, 2012
5:26 pm

If this is the best little Barry has, he might as well fold the tent now.

Its not. And why would he fold the tent when he is way ahead ?

Jm

April 30th, 2012
5:26 pm

When huffington says obama’s Osama ad is bad and disgusting you know Obama has hit rock bottom

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

April 30th, 2012
5:27 pm

Obama’s using this in a campaign ad the way he did is about the most unseemly thing I’ve seen a sitting president do with regard to running a campaign ad.

Ever see Bush land on the aircraft carrier with a big banner behind him that said

” Mission Accomplished “

Jm

April 30th, 2012
5:30 pm

Paul that was funny

Who is this heyward dude?

Soothsayer

April 30th, 2012
5:30 pm

Like I said, if you buy 2 you really do get the third one free!

The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers

April 30th, 2012
5:32 pm

Used to be a president was, well distinguished and classy. After using a dead man for his campaign and a joke about eating pit bulls, he’s lowered himself to the gutter to try and get the social media votes. And you degenerates love this stuff.

Tom Middleton

April 30th, 2012
5:32 pm

Jm

Are we talking about the same conservative-Republican Arianna Huffington, who’s husband – Michael Huffington – lost a Senate election against Diane Feinstein, then came out as bisexual? You mean the one who got a divorce and then changed parties because she couldn’t be a conservative Republican anymore? Gimme a break!

godless heathen

April 30th, 2012
5:32 pm

“Ever see Bush land on the aircraft carrier with a big banner behind him that said

” Mission Accomplished “”

That was a campaign ad? I thought it really happened. The lefties should quit harping on it since it was just a campaign ad.

Gm

April 30th, 2012
5:32 pm

Amazing how the sickos on the right are angry at Obama for using this during the campign: Hey right wings nuts, remember mission accomplished: how about Bush during his re election showing 911 every 10 mintues.

Hypocrites, how about scum bag Cheney fear tactics saying we are going to get attack again, maybe Obama should have had the sorry security team Bush had and allow more attacks, maybe then these hypocrites,Anti Americans on the right would show more appreciation.

JohnnyReb

April 30th, 2012
5:35 pm

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

April 30th, 2012
5:26 pm

If this is the best little Barry has, he might as well fold the tent now.

Its not. And why would he fold the tent when he is way ahead ?
_____________________________

The reality, let me repeat that, reality is, the whole pundit world has been taken aback that Romney is so close to Obama in the polls. Most of them thought the primary damage to Romney would put Obama ahead by double digits. Most of them don’t know squat; instead, they are pushing Barry as hard as they can go.

USMC

April 30th, 2012
5:35 pm

Obama is on the ropes and knows it. He will, like all Liberals, stoop to the lowest level to win in 2012 to no avail.

Jay seems to enjoy spiking the football; like Comrade Obama. I guess Jay didn’t play football in High-school either.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

April 30th, 2012
5:37 pm

When huffington says obama’s Osama ad is bad and disgusting you know Obama has hit rock bottom

When a bloomberg troll cites fruitcake Arianna Huffington, you know a bloomberg troll has hit rock bottom.

Jm

April 30th, 2012
5:41 pm

Obama loving huffington is a fruitcake? Ok

Paul

April 30th, 2012
5:42 pm

Jm

Just someone who pops up occasionally.

I’m pleased you appreciate the maxim “Never let a good straight line go to waste.”

They BOTH suck

April 30th, 2012
5:43 pm

“The lefties should quit harping on it since it was just a campaign ad.”

godless: it wouldn’t have been so bad except for the fact that the Bush Administration didn’t coordinate the message to well with the Navy…… At 1st they denied they had anything to do with the banner only to retract when the Navy said not our idea…………

But Bush is gone and that is a good thing…… banner or no banner

GT

April 30th, 2012
5:43 pm

You got me Fresh, immigrants, illegal immigrants. Thanks for the help..

josef

April 30th, 2012
5:44 pm

Like I said at the top…this one’s fun!

ragnar danneskjold

April 30th, 2012
5:46 pm

Taranto has a funny analysis today:

A reader calls our attention to a March 2004 interview that Cathleen Falsani of the Chicago Sun-Times conducted with Barack Obama, then an Illinois state senator and candidate for U.S. Senate. In 2008 Steve Waldman, then editor of BeliefNet.com, republished the interview, which he described as “the most detailed and fascinating explication of Barack Obama’s faith.” This part caught our interest:
Falsani: Do you believe in sin?
Obama: Yes.
Falsani: What is sin?
Obama: Being out of alignment with my values.

This is a tad ambiguous. Is Obama declaring himself the ultimate moral arbiter, so that you are a sinner if you are out of alignment with his values?

That would be an uncharitable construction. It seems more likely that he is declaring himself his own moral arbiter, so that he is a sinner if he is out of alignment with his own values. To our mind it is not a recognizably Christian conception of sin.

Ragnar add: most Christians in my acquaintance define “sin” in terms of God’s expectations. Revealing that the Messiah arrogates that power to himself.

Paul

April 30th, 2012
5:46 pm

USMC

“He will, like all Liberals, stoop to the lowest level to win in 2012 to no avail.”

Is that the new euphemism for ‘killing bin Laden’?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

April 30th, 2012
5:46 pm

The reality, let me repeat that, reality is, I drove the winning race car in the past nine Indianapolis 500’s

Union

April 30th, 2012
5:46 pm

no fan of mitt..

seem to recall the lib side going bat*hit crazy when the repugs were selling photos of bush on 9/11.. they just couldnt believe anyone would use that as political tool.. fast forward.. tables have turned.. new team on the field.. but the media is still carrying the water buckets for the same side..

funny how the losers in life talk about what other people cant do instead of what they didnt do..

They BOTH suck

April 30th, 2012
5:48 pm

“Is Obama declaring himself the ultimate moral arbiter, so that you are a sinner if you are out of alignment with his values?”

Are you attempting to be his with that post?

josef

April 30th, 2012
5:50 pm

USMC

Imam and Obama didn’t play high school football? A good thing, imauo, they escaped brain damage and molestation… :-)

Gm

April 30th, 2012
5:50 pm

Thanks Obama for doing more for Vets then any President in the last 50 years.

I am so sad we have fake USMC on here bashing you, because he can not research and rely on fake fox news to get his information, I think he is made because some black soldier got promoted before him.

Brosephus™

April 30th, 2012
5:50 pm

That being said, Obama’s using this in a campaign ad the way he did is about the most unseemly thing I’ve seen a sitting president do with regard to running a campaign ad. It’s truly pathetic to politicize this the way he has…

Well, there have been numerous conservatives claming that Obama could not run on his record. Many have stated as much here on this blog. Now, that he IS running on his record, it’s pathetic? Give me an effin’ break…. :roll:

They BOTH suck

April 30th, 2012
5:51 pm

Jay

You put me in “time out” @ 5:46

Shouldn’t be anything in that post for the program to slow it down

Thanks

josef

April 30th, 2012
5:52 pm

Ragnar…
@ 5:46
Is that Ayn Rand or St. Thomas Aquinas…?

josef

April 30th, 2012
5:53 pm

Gm

USMC is white? Do tell…

Gator Joe

April 30th, 2012
5:57 pm

America was attacked during Bush’s administration, Bin Laden was free for the entire Bush Presidency, Bush started a needless immoral war in Iraq which did nothing to make us more secure, and all of the torture by the Bush administration did nothing to makes us safer.
Bin Laden, has been eliminated under President Obama’s administration, so Romney and the rest of the delusional Right should quit before they look even more ridiculous.

ODD OWL

April 30th, 2012
5:58 pm

Mitt “Much Pesos” Romney negative, use of reverse psychology and subliminal subjectivity has played out… It doesn’t work anymore.. Mittens, who is “soft” by the way, doesn’t have any credibility on any issue… Romney is a incessant flip flopper.. Money man Mitt is on both sides of all issues…Mittens Romney perpetrate an evil act in implementing his hidden agenda, then he scape goat, project and blame President Obama and the Democrats for the evil act that he just perpetrated… Mitt romney is a habitual, pathological liar… Mitt Romney and most of the lap dog Republican politicians have been bribed, bought and paid for, by the rich, elite Koch Bros. type corporate bosses… The Republican agenda plays on the intelligence of naive, ignorant, gullible, non-rich Americans who vote Republican… Come November, Mitt Romney will feel the same visceral pain that John McCain is experiencing right now.. Both of them, LOSERS… Barack “The Hawk” Obama, the apex ace of assymmetrical warfare and Commander of the predator drone… Barack The Hawk ordered a hell fire missile strike on high level Al-Qaeda terrorists over the weekend.. Six more terrorists are searching for their 72 virgin Brides in Islamic Heaven… In the final analysis; Bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive…

Moderate Line

April 30th, 2012
5:58 pm

Billybob

April 30th, 2012
5:59 pm

textbook politicization of this issue with this post bookman….the leftist elite academic mentality that you use to pose the question wreaks of 4th grade C+ gradework……..i’m glad he’s gone, i don’t have a problem acknowledging that justice, but this was a call that every president would have made period………..a teachable moment here i think………
Would clinton have gotten bin laden? Well, no……….have a good day libs

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

April 30th, 2012
6:04 pm

….the leftist elite academic mentality that you use to pose the question wreaks of 4th grade C+ gradework……

Oh, the irony.

Moderate Line

April 30th, 2012
6:05 pm

Now, I have no objection to Senator Clinton thinking that her approach is superior. But the fact of the matter is, is that if, as we’ve heard tonight, we still don’t know how Senator Clinton intends to enforce a mandate, and if we don’t know the level of subsidies that she’s going to provide, then you can have a situation which we’re seeing right now in the state of Massachusetts, where people are being fined for not having purchased health care but choose to accept the fine because they still can’t afford it even with the subsidies.

And they are then worse off. They then have no health care and are paying a fine above and beyond that.
Senator Obama

Looks like Obama likes waffles also.

Paul

April 30th, 2012
6:05 pm

Moderate Line

Arianna made a well-reasoned argument.

Now Republicans can cite and celebrate Huffpo -

This just gets better and better -

Moderate Line

April 30th, 2012
6:05 pm

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

April 30th, 2012
6:05 pm

but this was a call that every president would have made period……….

According to Mitt Romney’s own words he wouldn’t have.

You have a good day too.