Politics, not policy, will drive transportation money
Georgia has a long, unfortunate history of making transportation decisions based on the needs and whims of politicians rather than the data-driven advice of transportation professionals.
With his appointment of Toby Carr as the state’s transportation planning director, the most important transportation job in the state, Gov. Nathan Deal has made it pretty clear that tradition isn’t going to change anytime soon.
Carr may be a fine person. However, he has no training in transportation engineering or planning. His professional background and area of expertise is in politics instead.
According to a short bio provided by the governor’s office, Carr has served as executive director of the state Republican Party. He was also executive director of Deal’s transition team.
In 2008, he was campaign coordinator for the House Republican caucus, and he also worked as a political consultant. He has bachelor degrees in finance and agricultural engineering. His only apparent background in transportation has been his service since January 2011 as Deal’s transportation policy adviser.
According to Deal spokesman Brian Robinson, that makes Carr a good pick for the job.
“The position is the governor’s advocate within the [Department of Transportation], which is governed by a separate board,” Robinson said. “Toby is very well qualified for such a job. He knows what the governor’s priorities are and he can work toward them at the DOT.”
In effect, he’s saying that the governor views the job of transportation planning director as a political rather than a policy job. And under the job description provided by Robinson, Carr is indeed well-qualified to serve as “the governor’s advocate within the DOT.”
However, that’s not how state law describes the job. Under state law, the duties of that position are far more extensive and require far more knowledge and experience in transportation planning that Carr possesses.
Statutorily, the director of transportation planning is charged with “developing the state transportation improvement program and the state-wide strategic transportation plan and coordinating transportation policies, planning, and programs related to design, construction, maintenance, operations, and financing of transportation.”
I don’t think running the state Republican Party prepares you for all that.
In addition, the director is charged with developing a statewide transportation asset management program, an asset improvement program and a local maintenance and improvement grant program. Under the Transportation Investment Act of 2010, he or she also plays a critically important role in the drafting of regional project lists to be funded with the proposed 1-percent regional transportation sales tax.
Carr’s predecessor, Todd Long, left the job a month ago to become deputy transportation commissioner. From the outside, it’s now pretty apparent that he was pushed out to make room for Carr.
And unfortunately, the contrast between the two is significant: Long has a bachelor’s degree and a master’s degree in civil engineering from Georgia Tech, plus almost two decades of experience in transportation and transportation planning. His background and the credibility that it gave him were valuable as he worked with regional officials around the state to draw up project lists for the July T-Splost.
The decision to appoint Carr, on the other hand, doesn’t exactly boost voter confidence that politics won’t dictate how their transportation dollars will be spent. The revenue from that particular tax can be spent only on the projects already approved, but in general it’s not an encouraging sign.
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USinUK
April 27th, 2012
7:02 am
daaaaaaaaaaaaaang … look who’s up early in the morning!!!
Normal Free, Plain and Simple
April 27th, 2012
7:03 am
This is news? Come on Jay, it’s all ready known that the Georgia Government is one of the most corrupt around…
Just face palm and shake your head, then accept the fact that traffic won’t improve and neither will progress…
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
7:03 am
cue the Friday drive-to-work music!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJcQmXnAD3E
Normal Free, Plain and Simple
April 27th, 2012
7:04 am
Top of the day to you, USinUK!
cloudodust
April 27th, 2012
7:04 am
Rumor has it being a community organizer didn’t quite prepare one for the presidency either but alas, that’s politics…
Joel Edge
April 27th, 2012
7:04 am
Someone in a position that they’re unqualified for, I’m shocked.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
7:05 am
Maybe Deal was just confused by Carr’s name and thought that was experience enough …
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
7:07 am
Hiya Normal!!!
good to see you, my friend
as for Carr, the appointment makes perfect sense for a party who believes in limited government – as “road building” wasn’t mentioned SPECIFICALLY anywhere in the Constitution, it’s obviously not the role of government and should be left in the hands of business.
because they know what’s best.
Jack
April 27th, 2012
7:10 am
I wish I’d said what clouldodust said.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
7:16 am
only 5 in before the first “but … but … but … OBAMA”
that’s GOTTA be some kind of record …
ByteMe - Political thug
April 27th, 2012
7:17 am
Wow… on a state transportation topic, we have a “but… but… but… Obama!” already in at #5. Who would-a thunk that?
ByteMe - Political thug
April 27th, 2012
7:21 am
None of this topic surprises me. Most of the boards established in this state are filled with flunkies for political payoff. DOT is the “big kahuna” with the most money, so it’s certainly not going to be above the politics of power.
Another reason my T-SPLOST vote is “no”. Until we have a new constitutional structure in this state without the top-down control over everything, very little change can be expected.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
April 27th, 2012
7:21 am
Could it be…
Maybe…
Possibly….
The “C” word?
CRONYISM?
Yes, my dear Republicans this is what CRONYISM looks like.
Smells like it to.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
7:22 am
ByteMe – you owe me a coke
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
April 27th, 2012
7:24 am
cloudodust
the rumor was wrong, community organization is a great way to prepare for a life of public service.
community…..public service….goes well together
a life of service to ones community
it’s a good thing
and that scares some very silly folks
Doggone/GA
April 27th, 2012
7:26 am
Carr Deal … car deal … the very definition of screw the customer for all you can get?
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
7:27 am
Jack – 7:10 – why?? do you want to look stupid, too???
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
April 27th, 2012
7:30 am
USinUK
if it looks like a duck….
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
7:31 am
oh … DUCK …
I misread that the first time around …
ByteMe - Political thug
April 27th, 2012
7:32 am
ByteMe – you owe me a coke
Yes.
oh … DUCK …
Thank goodness I wasn’t drinking anything when I read that.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
April 27th, 2012
7:40 am
USinUK
Byte ME
Oh Duck
Mr_B
April 27th, 2012
7:41 am
“Wow… on a state transportation topic, we have a “but… but… but… Obama!” already in at #5. Who would-a thunk that?”"
Well, of course Deal was forced by the POTUS to appoint Carr, dontchaknow…
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
7:46 am
dammitall, GG – that made me snort!
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
April 27th, 2012
7:51 am
Here in GA the pollen is so bad, I think snorting is now the state song.
Ayn Rant
April 27th, 2012
7:52 am
The planning horizon for the ol’ boys in Georgia government is the next election. Why oh why, in a land so beset with problems and needs, and so blessed with resources and variety, do the voters of Georgia choose jackasses to manage their public affairs?
Ever since Republican politicians adopted the motto “Government is the problem!”, they have set about diligently to prove it by governing incompetently and sabotaging the efforts of those who attempt to clean up their mess.
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2012
7:52 am
Anyone got any links to anything this Toby Carr guy has done?
(the name is more common than one might think.)
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2012
7:53 am
cloudodust, what was your screen handle here yesterday? just wondering.
Also, did you tell your mommy you wanted to be a mystery meat when you growed up?
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
7:53 am
Good morning, Bookmaniacs.
Why would the issue of transportation be different from any other single serious issue facing this state? Georgia’s baby Washingtonites are defined by piggish party politics, rampant, unabashed corruption and bribe taking and perverse personal gain above everything else. And over the past ten years, these anti-women, anti-working class malcontents have demonstrated over and over and over again they are incapable of solving our many problems or even implementing semi-effective, ethical governance. (You Republicans do remember the word ethics, don’t you?)
And it is so systemically entrenched now that these emboldened frauds and cheats and non-conservative conservatives know that their economically liberal, socially retarded Republican base is so spineless and brainwashed that they will not hold them even remotely responsible, for the litany of recent screw ups, much less the appointments of racists and woefully unprepared and likely, incompetent, do-nothing-right bureaucrats like this Mr. Carr.
So, as a state, we continue swirling down the GOP toilet.
Welcome to assbackwards Georgia…
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2012
7:54 am
Any truth to the irresponsible speculation that Deal just wants to sabotage the TSPLOST and is appointing some hack in order to ensure it goes off the rails?
Road Scholar
April 27th, 2012
7:56 am
US and Granny: Stupidity finds comfort in groups; Cloudodust and Jack- get ready, more imbeciles are coming to join you!
Jay, this is the latest insertion of a repub elected official or party member into state government boards and management. Remember the Captain that was placed in charge of the Nat’l Guard who did not have the rank and qualifications required for that position? Why not make of list of Deal’s appointments and their past job.This is the remaining part of the total take-over of state government by the repubs, but don’t worry about them not having the experience and degrees to do a good job. Oh and Kyle, let’s here your excuses/defense of this practice. Oh I did hear that Carr spent a night at a Holiday Inn Express! This guy couldn’t hold Todd Long’s paper his degrees are printed on!
The governor needs an insider???? Who do you think is on the Transportation Board?
Lord Help Us
April 27th, 2012
7:57 am
Deal was a swindler and schemer when he was elected. Did anyone expect him to change?
barking frog
April 27th, 2012
8:00 am
It’s not illegal when the
Gov does it.
Lord Help Us
April 27th, 2012
8:02 am
Luckovich hits it out of the park today…
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
8:02 am
Granny, LOVE Bugs and Daffy.
And how ironic that so many of our con friends here, not just limited to rags, also have “pronoun trouble”, huh?
cloudodust and Jack, among several others, are predictable. When confronted with obvious malfeasance and incompetence in our state government, what do they do?
Cut and run.
And fall victim yet again to their permanent Obama Derangement Syndrome.
Focus, boys, focus!
The topic at hand is your beloved neocon infested political party in the state house and their bungling imitation at governing a state with a multitude of worsening problems…
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
8:02 am
LHU – “Deal was a swindler and schemer when he was elected.”
was he also a joker? a smoker? a midnight toker???
Road – “Stupidity finds comfort in groups;”
is that the corollary to misery loves company?
Road Scholar
April 27th, 2012
8:03 am
not here-it should be hear
Not enough coffee yet!
What is interesting is that the appointment was made 2-3 days ago and this is the first article/editorial on it….why the delay? Kyle, I’m still waiting for your gushing revue.
Lord Help Us
April 27th, 2012
8:05 am
‘was he also a joker? a smoker? a midnight toker???’
I’d be more inclined to support him if that part were true…
James Thomas
April 27th, 2012
8:05 am
Hmmmm..I wonder if the same thing can be said about someone who has never served in the military being commander in chief.
Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
April 27th, 2012
8:05 am
It’s W’s fault!
The Fresh Prince of BIll Ayers
April 27th, 2012
8:06 am
Would you care to discuss the Great Divider’s G.E jobs czar who’s specialty is shipping american jobs over seas qualifications??
Misty Fyed
April 27th, 2012
8:06 am
It’s Nathan Deal….Why does this surprise you?
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2012
8:06 am
Kyle, I’m still waiting for your gushing revue.
I’m not a big one for knocking a guy in other forums when he’s got his own forum where it can be done “to his face” so to speak, but I only happened upon that embarrassing piece from Wed. late yesterday–it’s still up as his latest post–and really all I could do is shake my head.
Road Scholar
April 27th, 2012
8:08 am
US: Yeah! How’s your weather? We have just had March in April…winds, cold, etc. Can’t wait to see what May brings! Probably August! But the greenery here is about 2 months ahead of schedule…I have Oak Leaf hydrangeas blooming now…they usually bloom in late June or early July!
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
8:10 am
dB – did you see Mittens getting called out for being a big, fat liar???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdMLLCXLbbc
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
8:12 am
LHU, thanks for the heads up.
Luckovich is a superstar. And can be counted among the best of the best in this country at what he does.
And how hysterical.
He Who Shall Never Again be Mentioned.
How dumb is it that that dysfunctional GOP simply hopes that the vast percentage of American voters are going to just forget about the nightmarish Reign of Error, 2000 – 2008?
Yes, it is true that that is what oftentimes happens in this ADD country.
But when one is talking about George Walker Bush (Oh no, I just mentioned him!) – the worst president in modern, if not all of, American history – it is MUCH harder for people of conscience to just pretend that these fake conservatives, who unleashed massive destruction and death on this nation, are a distant, forgettable and very bad memory.
And George Willard Bush will never see the inside of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, other than as a guest of the President of the United States of America…
Lord Help Us
April 27th, 2012
8:12 am
stands…that link hurt my eyes. It’s looks like the blogger version of the short bus over there…
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
8:12 am
Road – “Yeah! How’s your weather? ”
GAH – we’re on day 10 of not just rain, but PISSING-DOWN rain … on Wednesday, we got an entire month’s worth in one day … you could waterski in some of the standing water in my neighborhood!
The good news is that we WERE in drought – at least this has helped put a dent in it … the weird thing is that we went from on of the warmest Marches on record to cold and wet April … bring back the SUN!!!
Road Scholar
April 27th, 2012
8:12 am
Stands: the post from Kyle was from two days ago; I don’t see a post from yesterday! He must have had too many diapers to change! I could call him out here or off topic on an old post; pick your poison!
Thomas
April 27th, 2012
8:13 am
One fears a drunk person driving.
One simply (now) knows a community organizer is good at one thing- hanging out.
Only in Georgia
April 27th, 2012
8:13 am
Yes, we do have a problem. As long as Nathan Deal is the governor of this state, the new transportation bill probably will NOT pass. This state needs concrete VISION on how to make commuting more feasible. When transportation is viewed from all levels, (air, rail, bus and automobile) politics will not solve the issues. Why vote on passing the SPLOST and seeing the contracts being generated through the “good ole boy network” with no results of relieving the congestion?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
April 27th, 2012
8:13 am
James Thomas
April 27th, 2012
8:05 am
Hmmmm..I wonder if the same thing can be said about someone who has never served in the military being commander in chief.
Thomas
What same thing?
We have had a number of CIC’s who were not in the military.
We have a very smart system that requires civilian oversight of the military.
So what EXACTLY is YOUR problem?
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2012
8:14 am
see Mittens getting called out for being a big, fat liar?
Well, I have now.
“I do not have lobbyists running my campaign.”
Und zhere hass never been a successful escape from Stalag 13.
gots to produce. Later, all.
Georgia on my mind..
April 27th, 2012
8:15 am
and the WAR continues….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kH_EZF0XqM&ob=av2e
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2012
8:17 am
I don’t see a post from yesterday!
I *saw* it first, yesterday, well after the topic had been hashed out…
/drive-by
Atlas Shrugging
April 27th, 2012
8:18 am
Since when did qualification matter when it comes to government jobs???? If a community organizer can be president I think this Carr may be over qualified.
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
8:18 am
Let’s see, if the position is filled with an engineer s/he will crunch numbers, make projections and give us the outcome. If instead the position is filled with a coordinator, who just happens to have gained his coordinating skills in politics, we might just get some of what the people want. It is after all their money he is spending.
I’ll go with the politician.
Peadawg
April 27th, 2012
8:18 am
Everything’s about politics these days. Sad.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
8:19 am
Georgie – the sound you hear is Hoagy Carmichael spinning in his grave like a flipping TOP
James Thomas
April 27th, 2012
8:20 am
Granny,
You implied I was being critical of our current Pres. I wasn’t.
My point being, we are arguing that a politician is going to head up something he has no training in. That happens all the time in the Federal Gov’t. I agree with the argument but what grander example is there that a civilian commander in chief. Yes I understand the benefit that brings, but the concept is the same none the less.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
April 27th, 2012
8:20 am
Atlas
I see where Paul Ryan shoved you under the buss the other day…
Those tire tracks look good on you.
Perhaps a community organizer could rally the community and do something about that.
Road Scholar
April 27th, 2012
8:21 am
Johnny Reb: Bless your heart! They already have 15 on the Board! How many non qualified politicians does it take?
carlosgvv
April 27th, 2012
8:21 am
When Deal and Barnes were running for Governor, we of the liberal and intelligent persuasion did our best to warn all you Republicans that putting another Perdue in office wasn’t the smart thing to do. Naturally, you did not listen. And now, you are getting the mediocre Governor you deserve. Unfortunately, you’ve seen to it we have to suffer under him too. When will you ever learn?
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2012
8:21 am
Cronyism LIVES! Has Deal appointed all of his relatives to government positions yet. His son-in-law surely qualifies for a debt management/ banking position given his background.
James Thomas
April 27th, 2012
8:23 am
Seriously people. Pay attention to what happens at the Fed level. When a new president comes in they clean house and appoint politicians and friends of politicians to head significant portions of the gov’t. Career gov’t employees who know the programs inside and out are skipped over for whatever son or daughter of a campaign buddy is due some payback.
If YOU do not vote...then...
April 27th, 2012
8:25 am
YOU have no voice…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP6Mcvgdrtg&feature=related
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
April 27th, 2012
8:26 am
James Thomas
Point taken.
James Thomas
April 27th, 2012
8:26 am
Carlosgvv
Either you are too young to remember or willingly ignorant. Politics is Politics no matter what party is in power. A large percentage of our current Republicans were Democrats under previous administrations. When the power swung the other way…it became more convenient to put a R behind your name than the D.
Jm
April 27th, 2012
8:26 am
Seems premature to second guess the choice
Sometimes it takes a political person to get things done, not an engineer
Peadawg
April 27th, 2012
8:27 am
carlosgvv
April 27th, 2012
8:21 am
I didn’t vote in that election..neither choice was good. Barnes wasn’t any better.
If YOU do not vote...then...
April 27th, 2012
8:28 am
It does not matter if a large percentage of our current Republicans were Democrats, you all still voted for them. What matters is coming up with SOLUTIONS without wasting the tax payers money and making the politicans RICHER!!
Thomas Heyward Jr.
April 27th, 2012
8:30 am
Without checking, I would bet anyone a dollar to a donut hole that Tony Carr, like Nathan Deal , was once a slimey democrat.
He is now a slimey Republican.
.
And why not change the letter after your name?
It works everytime when you’re dealing with the typical intelligence of a Romney/Obama supporter.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
8:31 am
Jm – are you saying that we’re premature prognosticators???
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
8:32 am
Chickenhawks! Please.
Do yourselves a favor and give up on the military experience angle.
Look at the long list of laughable cowards that you’ve tried to nominate in the past two elections!
The only combat hero that your party had, you boys tried your damnedest to swiftboat the RINO.
Admit, the Community Organizing, Uppity Muslim without a Birth Certificate has punked you at your own national security game!
Hysterical.
Stick to what you do best – humiliating women, young people, foreigners and especially the poor and weak…
Jay
April 27th, 2012
8:32 am
James, this job was established under law as a professional policy position, not as a political post. The politics side of the equation is supposed to be handled by the DOT board.
The job title, after all, is director of transportation planning.
(ir)Rational
April 27th, 2012
8:36 am
carlos – I wouldn’t vote for Barnes for personal reasons. I just don’t like the man. At the time, I thought he was no better than Deal, and possibly worse, now I’m not so sure that he wouldn’t have made a better governor. I know one upside would be we would have two completely (hopefully) new candidates in two years.
Jm – I don’t think it is premature to second guess the choice. If the position is defined by law to be someone who actually knows about transportation, then it needs to be someone who actually knows about transportation. Someone who doesn’t have political baggage that needs to be repaid, or political expectations governing their decisions. Transportation is a huge problem with the state, and it needs to change, but I don’t see this as the way to facilitate that change. Then again, I’m not positive that it will matter who is in that position, because I don’t get the sense that the people are very happy with the choices made for the tax that is being pushed. With people not being happy with the proposals, I don’t see the tax passing.
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
8:36 am
Road Scholar
April 27th, 2012
8:21 am
Johnny Reb: Bless your heart! They already have 15 on the Board! How many non qualified politicians does it take?
______________________
Putting in an engineer who constantly fights those politicians means gridlock. As long as they have some of those guys who only look at their shoes when talking to you, it will be OK. The head guy needs to be a coordinator and deal maker.
carlosgvv
April 27th, 2012
8:36 am
James Thomas
It is the Republicans who are making no effort at all to hide their total commitment to the rich. How is it you either cannot or will not see this?
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
8:39 am
The ONLY angle you never-served neocons have left regarding the military is continuing to jack up even further, the insane amounts of money pumped into the MIC.
Why?
To further the greatest jobs program in the history of mankind rolling along and to keep your labor union buddies at Lockheed, Boeing, General Dynamcis, Raytheon, et al, happy…
(ir)Rational
April 27th, 2012
8:40 am
In completely unrelated news, how about the BCS finally agreeing to a playoff for college football?
Peadawg
April 27th, 2012
8:42 am
“In completely unrelated news, how about the BCS finally agreeing to a playoff for college football?” – It’s about freakin’ time.
Now we get to argue how to determine the 4 teams.
Paul
April 27th, 2012
8:44 am
Morning, Granny Godzilla
Didn’t have anything to contribute on a Georgia issue other that “ignore public needs, address political advantage” so I thought I’d scan the posts and see how long the anti-Obama-ites took.
“Hmmmm..I wonder if the same thing can be said about someone who has never served in the military being commander in chief.”
No need to get excited, all bold and all. There are plenty of people who expend plenty of energy wondering about silly things that most wouldn’t consider worth the effort. You know, like
“hmmmmmm….. I wonder what would happen if I didn’t hit the nail with the hammer but hit my finger instead? hmmmmmmm…..”
Thomas
April 27th, 2012
8:44 am
May/June WH does what it does best- beg for more QE as the job market and gdp continue to fade. Bernake resists as he knows it is a fools game. We spend the summer hearing about how bad Bush was and hope and change will happen given 4 more years and another trillion of stimulus.
(ir)Rational
April 27th, 2012
8:44 am
Yeah, well, maybe we won’t end up having people so pissed at the end of the season, complaining how unfair it is that (insert random team here) got to play for the national championship when (insert other random team here) didn’t. I think this last year, there really was a call for it, but I don’t think the outcome would have been any different.
Paul
April 27th, 2012
8:46 am
JohnnyReb
“If instead the position is filled with a coordinator, who just happens to have gained his coordinating skills in politics, we might just get some of what the people want. It is after all their money he is spending.
I’ll go with the politician.”
LOLOL! Sounds like a perfect defense of our ‘community organizer,” Pres Obama -
Peadawg
April 27th, 2012
8:48 am
“I don’t think the outcome would have been any different.” – I agree. If we had Stanford vs. LSU and Bama vs. Ok State, the out come would have been the same. But after years of saying you can’t play for the title w/out winning your conference…then Bama got in? Change was needed.
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
8:49 am
Paul
April 27th, 2012
8:46 am
JohnnyReb
“If instead the position is filled with a coordinator, who just happens to have gained his coordinating skills in politics, we might just get some of what the people want. It is after all their money he is spending.
I’ll go with the politician.”
LOLOL! Sounds like a perfect defense of our ‘community organizer,” Pres Obama -
_________________
I’ll defend Obama when he’s Right, excuse me, correct. So far, turning the military loose to kill OBL has been about it, but I keep looking!
(ir)Rational
April 27th, 2012
8:49 am
Pea – True dat. You know some coaches in the NFL were upset that they couldn’t pick Bama’s defense as a whole for their draft pick.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
8:50 am
okay … for fellow Game of Thrones / political geeks … this is brilliant!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/04/26/what-if-game-of-thrones-characters-were-presidential-candidates/
Paul
April 27th, 2012
8:52 am
JohnnyReb
I know, you’ve said that before. Which is why I posted it as a ’sounds like’ post, as that line of argument applies pretty well to the ‘business experience vs community organizer’ argument of Romney supporters.
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
8:52 am
OK, let’s cut to the chase on this piece. Jay and you Moonbats only have your panties in a wad over this because Republicans are in charge. If the governor was a Democrat, you would be finding ways to defend him against any criticisim – just as you do for the loser in chief.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
April 27th, 2012
8:55 am
Paul
Truth is I closed my “strong” wrong. I meant for it to only be his name.
But you’re right.
(ir)Rational
April 27th, 2012
8:57 am
JohnnyReb – While I suspect you could be at least partially correct, you’re missing the bigger issue. And at the same time, you’re doing the same thing you’re saying they would do, which is reprehensible when you try to push it as a bad thing if others do it. The bigger issue that you’re missing though, is the fact that it is a bad decision. For the reasons why, see my first post, but it is easily enough summed up. He is a career politician, which means he owes way too many people favors and paybacks for getting him to where he is now to be effective at the job. Not to mention the fact that he is severely under-qualified for it. Oh, and it isn’t a political job, it is a technical job, which, once again, makes him the wrong choice.
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
8:57 am
Paul – the new line on Obama is, he is our first “celebrity” president. Sounds like another excuse to me. It’s like poll data that mostly goes against Obama except his approval numbers. How can a person be against everything the guy has done but still like him? Give me a break.
Donovan
April 27th, 2012
8:57 am
And this morning’s sermon to the chior is coming from the man who voted for a president whose only background credentials apply to a Chicago community activist. A president who has no history of managerial skills, private workplace experience, nor business background; somebody like Sen. Al Franken who was nothing but a cheap left wing stand-up comedian who lost his job with Air America. Look who’s throwing stones? What a hypocrite!
Better yet, his following has references to the greatness of a left wing cartoonist DNC boot licker who carries the water for his masters. You clowns are pathetic!
When you liberals continue to support an empty suit community activist for a president who can’t even run on his record, you shouldn’t be throwing stones at a glass house.
By the way…the similarities between Obama and Jimmy Carter are so close in retrospect that it is scarey. You own him and you voted for a one time president. Way to pick ‘em boys and girls.
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
8:57 am
…but I keep looking!
Baloney.
Jay and you Moonbats only have your panties in a wad over this because Republicans are in charge.
Oscar Meyer.
The facts are apparent. YOU are utterly disinterested in this matter exactly because it is Republicans who are in charge.
Or did I miss your many posts where you have decried the many scandals, examples of cronyism and corruption and other such embarrassments in the state house over the past ten years?
And to quote a line from Caddyshack…
Well? We’re waiting!
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:00 am
and there’s Donovan … late to the “but … but … but … Obama” party …
Road Scholar
April 27th, 2012
9:01 am
Johnny Reb: Are you saying that Tom Moreland and Hal Rives and the present Commissioner Keith Golden are incompetent because they are engineers?All recent past commissioners except Gena Evans were good to the Department; she was a disaster. They di not “rule”as past politicians; Shackelford was a county administrator and developer, Linnenkohl, while not an engineer, but was “home grown” in the State Aid office, Coleman and Smith (both politicians) were involved in the Senate transportation committee for years. But the things that set them apart…was they listened to the Engineers!
Many processes and analysis at GDOT are well defined, often providing options to address problems…analyzed options. How about the Governor’s Road Improvement Program? This was a political program GDOT was expected to deliver. 4 laning rural state routes, many having less than 15,000 veh a day. Other than providing jobs during construction, how many jobs…permanent jobs… were created? A study done to check on its cost effectiveness? Yeah right! Now you can ride on a 4 lane and maybe see a few vehicles using them! And GDOT is still paying $4-5 hundred million a year in bond debt!
The latest change in the network was done by Gov Perdue before leaving office that had the route of the Fall Line Freeway changed from south Macon to property he owns further south!
We don’t need no stinking Engineers! yeah, right!
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2012
9:02 am
It sounds more like JohnnyReb’s panties are the ones with all the kinks in them.
ty webb
April 27th, 2012
9:02 am
democrats elect unqualified people, republicans appoint them.
(ir)Rational
April 27th, 2012
9:02 am
Road – I’m going to guess (jokingly mostly) that JohnnyReb is a U(sic)GA fan, and therefore can’t see how a nerd from Tech should ever have an important job.
Jm
April 27th, 2012
9:03 am
Usinuk
That’s probably your expertise….
I find prediction to be overly risky, and results in higher type 2 error
(ir)Rational
April 27th, 2012
9:03 am
ty – That could be turned around and be just as true. I think what should be said is: both parties elect unqualified people, and both parties appoint them.
ty webb
April 27th, 2012
9:05 am
and Bookman’s peanut gallery anoints them.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
April 27th, 2012
9:06 am
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
8:52 am
OK, let’s cut to the chase on this piece. Jay and you Moonbats only have your panties in a wad over this because Republicans are in charge. If the governor was a Democrat, you would be finding ways to defend him against any criticisim – just as you do for the loser in chief.
Piffle
Donovan
Piffle with nuts
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
9:06 am
(ir)Rational – I confess to not knowing the details of the job responsibilities. Jay writes:
Statutorily, the director of transportation planning is charged with “developing the state transportation improvement program and the state-wide strategic transportation plan and coordinating transportation policies, planning, and programs related to design, construction, maintenance, operations, and financing of transportation.
Time will tell if Deal’s decision was a mistake. However, I don’t see the state transportation director spending time ensuring the correct concrete mix goes into each road/bridge. There is staff for those tasks. A supervisor, coordinator and deal maker may prove the best.
Whahema
April 27th, 2012
9:06 am
I just. Threw up in my mouth.
Does Bookman think that politics does not drive MARTA?
Jm
April 27th, 2012
9:06 am
Prediction causes gamma error too
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:08 am
Jm – 9:03 – meh – I’m a youngest – from birth, I’ve always been a “where are we going? oh. okay.” roll-with-the-punches kinda gal …
that’s why I have always hated the “where do you see yourself in 5 years” question in interviews – most of the best places I’ve wound up have been things that I NEVER would have predicted
(ir)Rational
April 27th, 2012
9:08 am
JohnnyReb – Your point being? That you’re doing exactly what you said Jay would be doing had the parties been reversed? Time may prove me wrong, but I suspect that this was a mistake.
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2012
9:09 am
I reviewed a recent proposal for a little bypass and could not help but ask myself who owned select pieces of land in key spots because that had to be the primary consideration behind the final layout. Naw! That would never happen! That would be like politicizing transportation efforts for monetary gain. Naw! Tell me it ain’t so.
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
9:10 am
Road Scholar
April 27th, 2012
9:01 am
Johnny Reb: Are you saying that Tom Moreland and Hal Rives and the present Commissioner Keith Golden are incompetent because they are engineers?
_____________________________
No, I’m not stating that, but in a way Jay did. He wrote – Georgia has a long, unfortunate history of making transportation decisions based on the needs and whims of politicians rather than the data-driven advice of transportation professionals.
Sounds like to me trying a different approach may be in order.
Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
April 27th, 2012
9:11 am
Newt who?
Road Scholar
April 27th, 2012
9:12 am
Johnny Reb: What does this man know and have experience in addressing Federal and state transportation Regs, Air quality standards, planning models, transportation history and legislation, etc? Staff and consultants do much of the work. But experience is what sets qualified managers of planners apart.
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
9:12 am
By the way…the similarities between Obama and Jimmy Carter are so close in retrospect that it is scarey.
Jimmy Carter was Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and Abraham Lincoln all rolled into one compared to your hero – George (W)orst ever Bush.
Carter had Camp David. George had Abu Ghraib.
Jeez. Open a book, now and then, huh?
GWBush was a consummated and deadly failure. And if you ever did look (HA!) you’d soon find out that he is down near the very bottom of every list of presidents. Every single one. While JC is somewhere between half way mark and two thirds down the list.
Only willfully uninformed GOP hacks even dare try to make a comparison…
carlosgvv
April 27th, 2012
9:14 am
Donovan – 8:57
But not to worry!! We can look forward to that “stand by your core issues” Romney and our bought and paid for Tea Party Congress to provide honest competent leadership for America.
Right, Elmer?
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:15 am
“By the way…the similarities between Obama and Jimmy Carter are so close in retrospect that it is scarey.”
okay, I’ll play.
list ‘em.
rightwing troll
April 27th, 2012
9:16 am
No surprises there… you get the government you voted for, and this is exactly what the wingnuts vote for time and time again. Three of the most powerful men in the state have bankrupted and/or defaulted on millions of dollars in loans without taking one whit of personal responsibility. Yet the wingnuts scream HARDER… FASTER…
rightwing troll
April 27th, 2012
9:16 am
USinUK,
Asking for facts or details is pointless, either they have none or they refuse to share.
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
9:17 am
One other comment, then its off to do some work.
Georgia’s Transportation policy does seem to be FUBAR. Let’s face it, using TSPLOST funding for the Beltline is just like the Obama crony capitalism on green energy.
Will Deal and Carr fix things? Doesn’t sound like it. The best message to politicians to get their act together would be a defeat of TSPOST.
I know some of it is needed and many of you think it’s do or die, but its not. If it’s defeated the governments might actually get their act together and do what is best.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
9:17 am
Anyone notice gas prices have been going down? I wonder what the conservatives have to say when people suddenly go “Thank you, President Obama!!!!”
Road Scholar
April 27th, 2012
9:18 am
Johnney Reb: “No, I’m not stating that, but in a way Jay did. He wrote – Georgia has a long, unfortunate history of making transportation decisions based on the needs and whims of politicians rather than the data-driven advice of transportation professionals.
Sounds like to me trying a different approach may be in order.”
Over the past 15 years, the governor’s and other politicians control over the Department has increased immeasurably. Each year the governor’s intrusion into the Board elections was more obvious. Now with placing people inside GDOT as managers of the Money (not just transportation) reeks of control. Remember Gena and her gang of 7( treasurer, lawyer, added upper management positions, etc.) tried a coup that even the Board couldn’t stand!
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:19 am
RWT – “Asking for facts or details is pointless, either they have none or they refuse to share.”
which is why I call them on their BS every flipping time.
Soothsayer
April 27th, 2012
9:23 am
“The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
– H. L. Mencken ~1930
Mencken has foretold the presidency of George W. Bush.
Normal Free, Plain and Simple
April 27th, 2012
9:24 am
Adam
April 27th, 2012
9:17 am
I’m not sure why anyone would thank President Obama for low gas prices anymore as why they would blame him for high gas prices. Not a thing he can do without nationalizing the oil industry. He’s just the easiest to blame by the uninformed. Think about it…uninformed people…the GOP secret weapon. Ignorance, the other right wing meat…
Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
April 27th, 2012
9:24 am
For the last year or two, Europe has been implementing, in real time, exactly the policies that Romney and congressional Republicans fervently believe are the best strategy for boosting economic growth. It’s called “austerity,” and it means cutting deficits, slashing spending, and chipping away at all those goodies the social welfare state provides.
And guess what? It’s not working. Compared with the United States, Europe is in shambles. Unemployment is rising across the continent. Just this week, the United Kingdom, which has pursued an austerity regime so severe that it makes House Republicans drool with lust, slipped back into recession. In France, the socialist candidate for president (and likely winner), François Hollande, has been campaigning against austerity. Italy’s prime minister, Mario Monti, is expressing qualms. The latest news out of Brussels, according to the Daily Telegraph, suggests “a major shift in economic strategy” as fears spread “that excessive fiscal tightening will inflict unnecessary damage on a string of eurozone countries.”
http://www.salon.com/2012/04/27/mitt_the_real_european/
Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
April 27th, 2012
9:26 am
The evidence keeps amassing. Maybe, just maybe, John Maynard Keynes was right: Cutting government spending in the face of a weak economy is a recipe for further decline. In a startling turnabout, political leaders all over Europe are questioning the merits of austerity and calling for more stimulative policies.
You can see the problem Romney faces, and why he might suddenly be reluctant to utter the word “Europe.” The facts are uncomfortable: Under Obama, the United States has recovered more quickly from the Great Recession than has Europe. Economic growth is steadier, and unemployment is falling faster. But if Romney wins the White House………..
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:27 am
Finn – 9:24 – but didn’t you see the Kylie article that dB so kindly pointed us to???
they haven’t done TRUE austerity … only Greece has …
and look how well that’s doing for them!!
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
9:27 am
Adam
April 27th, 2012
9:17 am
Anyone notice gas prices have been going down? I wonder what the conservatives have to say when people suddenly go “Thank you, President Obama!!!!”
______________________________________________
Adam – I post a good bye for now; see the BS above and can’t resist. OMG, you are hopeless.
Obama and his supporters can’t go around stating he has little to no control over gas prices, then when the prices drop praise Obama.
Mr_B
April 27th, 2012
9:27 am
April 27th, 2012
8:13 am
James Thomas
April 27th, 2012
8:05 am
Hmmmm..I wonder if the same thing can be said about someone who has never served in the military being commander in chief.
I dunno… Might want to ask one the these guys:
John Adams
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
Franklin Roosevelt
Woodrow Wilson
and a few others.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:29 am
So, Donovan … we’re waiting … all these billions of ways that Obama is like Carter … what are they??? we’re all dying to know …
Soothsayer
April 27th, 2012
9:30 am
The mainstream media is a platform for the lies of their corporate sponsors. Each TV network or newspaper spouts propaganda that supports the financial interests and ideology they are beholden to. Does anyone think they are obtaining the truth from Paul Krugman, Chris Matthews, Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh? Evidently the answer is yes. The upcoming presidential campaign will be a nightmare of endless negative advertisements created by Madison Avenue maggots and paid for by rich powerful men attempting to herd the mindless sheeple towards their ultimate slaughter.
The purpose of those who wield power is to keep the masses dumbed down and paranoid regarding terrorist threats and artificial enemies. By convincing the dense public that acquiring material goods on credit was a smart thing to do, they have trapped them in a web of debt. By making life an inexhaustible bureaucratic nightmare or rules, regulations, forms, ID cards, registrations, and red tape, those in power maintain control and accumulate power.
Common Sense
April 27th, 2012
9:32 am
I am not voting for any more taxes that let grown adults build their pet train projects. The roads sit underutilized the majority of the day.
Time shifiting of demand is a much less expensive solution. But then you cannot help your buddies get rich, nor create a lifetime position for yourself doing that, can you?
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
April 27th, 2012
9:34 am
Back on topic. That was a pretty pathetic choice.
GDP TwoPointTwo
April 27th, 2012
9:34 am
Anyone notice gas prices have been going down? I wonder what the conservatives have to say when people suddenly go “Thank you, President Obama!!!!”
Obama Strategy
Make things really bad.
Improve things slightly.
Take Credit
Recon 0311 2533
April 27th, 2012
9:37 am
2.2% GDP first quarter down from 3% GDP fourth quarter last year. So, we’re heading in the right direction?
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:39 am
“2.2% GDP first quarter down from 3% GDP fourth quarter last year. So, we’re heading in the right direction?”
um. yes. it’s still good, solid growth.
sheesh.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
9:40 am
You guys fall for bait way too easily.
Of course he has no control over gas prices. But you guys only give lip service to this argument, usually, by pretending that when gas prices are going up that Obama had something to do with it. And when they go down? Silence. No one on the right wing radio or shows is talking about gas prices right now because they are going down. They like to lay blame on Obama when things are bad, even though they themselves will admit when a right wing President is in power, that the President has no control over gas prices.
So no, JohnnyReb, I wasn’t actually serious. But if you really believe that the President has nothing to do with gas prices, you should call out your comrade GDP TwoPointTwo for saying that Obama has made things bad, improved things, and is taking credit for the improvement.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:41 am
Underlying stats of GDP:
Household purchases increased 2.9 percent, exceeding the most optimistic projection. Homebuilding grew the fastest in almost two years.
it was held back by a decline in government spending
I would have thought that this would make some people happy … but noooooooooooooooo …
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2012
9:42 am
The solution to the gridlock is company-owned housing. You move in to a furnished unit provided by the company and the cost is included as part of your compensation. Who needs a car. If you leave the company, you lose the housing in order to make room for another employee. Hey! It worked back during the heyday of Georgia’s peonage system. And we’re already well on our way to getting that company-provided education system in place. I can see a revival of lost arts including brick-making.
Recon 0311 2533
April 27th, 2012
9:42 am
“um. yes. it’s still good, solid growth.”
Evidently math let alone basic economics is not your strong suit.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:42 am
The rise in household consumption followed a 2.1 percent gain in the prior quarter and exceeded the 2.3 percent median forecast in the Bloomberg survey. Purchases added 2 percentage points to growth.
A job market that’s improved since the end of 2011 is underpinning demand. Employers increased payrolls by 635,000 from January through March, the biggest quarterly gain since the first three months of 2006, data from the Labor Department show. At the same time, the jobless rate has been above 8 percent for the past three years.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-27/economy-in-u-s-expands-at-2-2-annual-rate-less-than-forecast.html
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:43 am
Recon – 9:42 – it’s a lot stronger than yours, since you’re ignoring the underlying data in your rush to say “Obama suuuuuuuuuuuuucks”
Doggone/GA
April 27th, 2012
9:43 am
” The roads sit underutilized the majority of the day”
But that is not the fault of the politicians. That has more to do with the standard “business day” than anything to do with politics.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
9:43 am
USinUK: it was held back by a decline in government spending
But but but… the government can’t do ANYTHING to affect the economy directly. They can only “create an environment,” like a test tube.
Seriously though, arguments like that make me think of kids in science class who think the teacher doesn’t know what they are talking about, and then proceed to perform amateur science in a petri dish or on a bunsen burner and then blow something up.
Kid: OOOO PRETTY LIGHTS!!!
Teacher: “By the way kid, you got an F.”
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:44 am
you know, that’s such a nice phrase, I think I’ll post it again …
A job market that’s improved since the end of 2011 is underpinning demand. Employers increased payrolls by 635,000 from January through March, the biggest quarterly gain since the first three months of 2006
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:45 am
Adam – 9:43 – austerity.
s’all I’m saying.
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2012
9:45 am
Contrary to conned math, 2.2% is a positive growth.
ty webb
April 27th, 2012
9:45 am
ah yes, hypocritically contradicting one’s self to point out other’s contradictory hypocrisy…go ahead, you got’em right where you want’em.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
9:47 am
Here’s what the cons are really afraid of: That people will actually LISTEN to facts and evidence that show that things are getting better. Why? Not because the President has had a direct hand in most of it, but because they have spent the last FOUR YEARS trying to make it seem like President Obama is directly responsible for the economy, even parts of the economy that were tanking before he took office. If people actually start to believe that the economy is getting better, and are convinced of that, it unravels years of talking points.
And it’s just so GD hard to come up with new ones that stick, doncha know
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:47 am
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article8292.html
if you scroll down to the GDP chart, you’ll see that average GDP since 1992 is right around 2.something-ish … so, yeah, 2.2% is nice, decent, solid, respectable growth.
Recon 0311 2533
April 27th, 2012
9:48 am
“Contrary to conned math, 2.2% is a positive growth.”
However, unacceptable it is to a recovering economy.
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
9:49 am
Adam – the president does have something to do with gas prices. And, if you would watch news other than networks-in-the-tank-for-Obama you would see that energy/gas prices are being discussed.
The latest flap is over a regional EPA official giving a briefing on how he makes things tuff on energy producers. And, how a large gas field finding was shutdown over fracking that proved to be of no consequence.
Your champion’s energy policies are more than partly respoinsible for high gas prices.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
9:49 am
USinUK: “Now, some of you may be science majors in here. …. I like that. We need more scientists, need more engineers. Now, I was not a science major myself, but I enjoyed science when I was young. And if I recall correctly, if an experiment fails badly …. you learn from that, right? Sometimes you can learn from failure. That’s part of the data that teaches you stuff, that expands our knowledge. But you don’t then just keep on doing the same thing over and over again.
….
You go back to the drawing board. You try something different. But that’s not what’s been happening with these folks in Washington.”
Guess who said it?
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:49 am
“However, unacceptable it is to a recovering economy.”
unacceptable to people who are cheering for the collapse of the US under Obama’s leadership, more like.
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Recon 0311 2533
April 27th, 2012
9:50 am
“so, yeah, 2.2% is nice, decent, solid, respectable growth.”
but not for a post recession recovery.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:50 am
Adam – 9:49 – hrmmmmmmmmm … give us a hint
Adam
April 27th, 2012
9:52 am
ah yes, hypocritically contradicting one’s self to point out other’s contradictory hypocrisy…go ahead, you got’em right where you want’em.
Frankly I just enjoy imagining all of you twisting yourself into knots inside, trying your hardest not to scream out “BUT THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T CONTROL GAS PRICES!!!” only to stop yourself when you realize that, though true, it won’t work for your narrative and would be used against you later when you make the false argument that he DOES. And then you hit that backspace button a few times when you realize it.
It’s even more fun when one of you can’t resist typing it out and hitting submit
Recon 0311 2533
April 27th, 2012
9:52 am
“unacceptable to people who are cheering for the collapse of the US under Obama’s leadership, more like.”
more like people blindly cheering Obama in spite of his failures as president.
getalife
April 27th, 2012
9:53 am
del,
The key word is positive .
No recession for us like Europe.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
9:53 am
JohnnyReb: Adam – the president does have something to do with gas prices
Oh really? So is that why gas prices are going down now? Or does the effect the President has on gas prices only apply when they are going up?
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:53 am
Recon – 9:50 – yes, actually ,it is ideal – it’s positive without being so rapid it causes the economy (and corresponding inflation) to overheat
getalife
April 27th, 2012
9:54 am
del,
Please name the failures.
Thanks.
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2012
9:54 am
However, unacceptable it is to a recovering economy.
Is that Yoda speak. Do tell us how unacceptable it would be to a recovering economy to cut government spending since it contributed to that lower but still positive GDP.
They BOTH suck
April 27th, 2012
9:54 am
Adam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzEnKdBAb_o
Tune into Fox….. especially this clip from 08 and listen to what the “real” news station was saying about gas prices
hahahahahahaha
Proud to be me
April 27th, 2012
9:55 am
Politics has ALWAYS driven EVERYTHING on ALL levels of government in this country . . . so what is new about that!! And, the left is just as guilty (i.e., Obama!!!).
Adam
April 27th, 2012
9:55 am
Recon: more like people blindly cheering Obama in spite of his failures as president.
What a comeback. *slow clap*
Seriously dude, that was weak. It would be best for you to simply admit that you are cheering for the US to collapse just because you want this President out of office. The first step to recovery is to admit your addiction.
And by the way, what has he failed at? Got any specific examples?
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
9:56 am
Recon – 9:52 –
dude.
I’m an ocean away and I can smell your desperation flop-sweat from here.
Obama has turned the economy around from heading over a cliff to positive growth – and positive job growth, he has been taking out AQ and steadily taking the fight to the terrorists, he redirected the focus to taking out Osama,
you want to back Mittens, feel free… just get used to the feeling of losing
Adam
April 27th, 2012
9:56 am
They BOTH suck: I love that clip. I am at least, oh, 80% convinced that most of the people blaming Obama for gas prices are doing so because they feel butthurt that their hero, Bush, was blamed for them. It’s not about the “media being hypocritical,” it’s about revenge.
ty webb
April 27th, 2012
9:56 am
Adam,
let me guess, all the mirrors in your house are one-way?
Recon 0311 2533
April 27th, 2012
9:58 am
“The key word is positive ”
getalife, unfortunately, the key word is inadequate.
“No recession for us like Europe.” we’re pursuing Europe’s mistakes, so there’s no guarantee that we won’t fall back into a recession not unlike Europe.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
9:58 am
let me guess, all the mirrors in your house are one-way?
What’s that supposed to mean?
Adam
April 27th, 2012
9:58 am
getalife, unfortunately, the key word is inadequate.
Unfortunately for the cons, that keyword is not actually applicable outside the bubble.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
9:59 am
we’re pursuing Europe’s mistakes
Like what?
getalife
April 27th, 2012
10:00 am
The gop house decided to cut food stamps to keep military spending at record levels.
Then they pretend to be Christians.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
10:00 am
“we’re pursuing Europe’s mistakes”
I wish you guys would get your stories straight …
either we’re making the same mistakes, or we’re not.
Europe and the UK have embarked on a shoot-yourself-in-the-foot exercise of austerity which as caused a double-dip
yet, you say that the US’s mistake is spending like Europe
so, which is it???
They BOTH suck
April 27th, 2012
10:00 am
Adam
It is funny when someone says……. the problem is that you are watching the stations that are in the tank for Obama….. that is why you don’t know the Pres can impact the price
Fox News the station they hold up had numerous broadcasters and commentators saying Pres has no impact in 08
All sides play politics………. some just don’t elect to see it
getalife
April 27th, 2012
10:02 am
del,
We know he will never be good enough for you.
There are no guarantees in politics.
Who do you think they are?
Quicken loans?
Recon 0311 2533
April 27th, 2012
10:02 am
Jousting with those desperately trying to defend the indefensible isn’t the best use of time. Y’all have fun
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2012
10:03 am
I think about 25% of the GDP is due to government spending so if government spending is reduced while businesses, etc., fail to pick up the slack, then GDP would decline.
They BOTH suck
April 27th, 2012
10:04 am
Adam and getalife
I guess providing specifics in terms of numbers wasn’t going to be Del’s forte today……….
Gator Joe
April 27th, 2012
10:04 am
[Statutorily, the director of transportation planning is charged with “developing the state transportation improvement program and the state-wide strategic transportation plan and coordinating transportation policies, planning, and programs related to design, construction, maintenance, operations, and financing of transportation.”]
In this case all the “Director” needs to know is which of Deal’s political cronies to funnel the projects to (i.e. white/Republican contributors). While I believe in improving and maintaining transportation infrastructure, I will not vote to put money into the hands of this Governor and his cronies.
For the bashers of the President, your ignorance and bigotry are pathetic.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
10:04 am
see ya, flop-sweat
Doggone/GA
April 27th, 2012
10:05 am
“Jousting with those desperately trying to defend the indefensible isn’t the best use of time. Y’all have fun”
aka: I’m gonna take my ball and go home
Adam
April 27th, 2012
10:06 am
They BOTH suck: True, very true. And when we realize the difference between the truth and the lies, that SHOULD help most people actually go for a guy that better represents their interests in a realistic way. And realistically, I can see only one major benefit to voting for Romney: Tax cuts on the top earners and capital gains and whatnot. He will also rubberstamp anything a Republican Congress sends him, I am pretty sure. Obama will essentially keep fighting to maintain or expand safety nets and cut the military. If Republicans would start coming to the table again, and Obama is re-elected, I could see great strides being made in deficit reduction without suffering to the least of us. What do you think?
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
10:07 am
“aka: I’m gonna take my ball and go home”
considering the sum-total of his argument was “no, it isn’t”, what else did you expect??
Adam
April 27th, 2012
10:07 am
Recon: Jousting with those desperately trying to defend the indefensible isn’t the best use of time
Crap! They want me to actually name a failure…. Uh… I had better leave!”
Donovan
April 27th, 2012
10:07 am
Thought I would check back in before I go make a living. You guys just hang out here like those Occupy Movement types without jobs.
Are you kidding? Your community organizer mirrors JC in unemployment, gas prices, Big Oil condemnation, foreign policy appeasement, economic failures, etc.
Reading books? Give me a break JamVet. The history books are full of his failures. What library do you visit? The liberal ones that have purged all of the Carter failures?
Look. You seem very upset with Georgia and the GOP. I’m guessing that you were drafted for Viet Nam against your will. You took a grenade frag to the head and built up a mental defect against Nixon and the Party. My perscription is to take a liberal lollipop and go suck on it in Vermont or California.
Got to go.
Brosephus™
April 27th, 2012
10:07 am
It’s funny reading how someone can find a way to blame Obama on a topic that’s about local transportation issues. Everybody wants to be a comedian nowadays.
For those who voted for Deal, you’re getting what you voted for. Corruption in… corruption out. Georgia isn’t ranked almost dead last in transportation spending just by accident. When you see an obviously political apointee going to a positition where he has the usefulness of a football bat, you know things are effed up. Yet, I see some of the same “Defenders of all things GOP” trying to make things sound good.
There’s even a deflection attempt to GDP. So predictable… Just as predictable than not one conservative here will call out something done by their own that’s obviously effed up.
They BOTH suck
April 27th, 2012
10:07 am
“aka: I’m gonna take my ball and go home”
Bingo………. You notice how asking for specifics was equated to “desperately defending”?
hahahahahaha
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
April 27th, 2012
10:08 am
“we’re pursuing Europe’s mistakes”
I wish you guys would get your stories straight …
either we’re making the same mistakes, or we’re not.
Europe and the UK have embarked on a shoot-yourself-in-the-foot exercise of austerity which as caused a double-dip
yet, you say that the US’s mistake is spending like Europe
so, which is it???
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You assume that all countries arrive at crisis points all at the same point. They don’t
They didn’t choose to go the austerity route they were forced to do it because they simply didn’t have they money to pay their bills. Greece doesn’t have the ability to print their own money like we do.
Now the fight in the US is how much free crap do we want to give our citizens and how high do we allow our debt to go.
williebkind
April 27th, 2012
10:08 am
JamVet – Stay ignorant, my friends…
April 27th, 2012
7:53 am
JamVet is showing off his edumucation again. He should be a jounalist because they write a lot about nothing.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
10:08 am
Doggone – who knew that Monty Python did their impression of Recon 30 years ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y
They BOTH suck
April 27th, 2012
10:09 am
Bro
Good morning……… If you haven’t done so, check out some of the comments downstairs after you signed off last night…..
Good for a few chuckles
Off to get my jog on……….. catch up later
Adam
April 27th, 2012
10:09 am
Donovan: The liberal ones that have purged all of the Carter failures?
One question: After reading that, why should ANYONE take you seriously?
Doggone/GA
April 27th, 2012
10:09 am
“considering the sum-total of his argument was “no, it isn’t”, what else did you expect??”
Not much, but it was fun to watch it play out!
stevie ray..Clowns to the Left and Jokers to the Right..here I am...
April 27th, 2012
10:09 am
ADAM,
BO failed on his promise not to allow lobbyists to control agenda in DC, failed to take responsibility for anything, failed to lead divided congress instead blaming obstructists, hope, change, guantanamo, taking on telecom, fighting and prosecuting wall street..pushing a HC bill majority don’t want than likely won’t stand court scrutiny…failed energy policy…
getalife
April 27th, 2012
10:10 am
del and facts are not friends but he is free to voice his opinion.
I think the numbers are still good .
williebkind
April 27th, 2012
10:10 am
It’s funny reading how someone can find a way to blame CONSERVATIVES on a topic that’s about local transportation issues. Everybody wants to be a comedian nowadays.
There, I made you the owner of your intentions.
EJ Moosa
April 27th, 2012
10:11 am
“unacceptable to people who are cheering for the collapse of the US under Obama’s leadership, more like.”
One does not have to cheer. It is collapsing on it’s own.
On the positive side, this is the largest economy in US history.
Feel the economic boom? Because this is as good as it gets for the rest of 2012.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
10:12 am
Steve – USA: They didn’t choose to go the austerity route they were forced to do it because they simply didn’t have they money to pay their bills
In the UK, that is actually not the case. They DID have a choice. Greece may have been forced into it, but even some of the people who forced that issue are saying it was a bad idea to implement that plan. Things is, they also basically think of Greece as a spoiled child so regardless of the outcome of doing things this way, they will persist out of a need to control and punish them.
getalife
April 27th, 2012
10:12 am
stevie,
Looks like you should be upset with corrupt congress not our President.
Why do you give congress a free pass?
Brosephus™
April 27th, 2012
10:13 am
They BOTH
I was just reading some of that stuff. Funny stuff indeed. I never knew that TSA had screeners in Europe that failed to catch Richard Ramirez… err… Richard Reid.
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
April 27th, 2012
10:13 am
“It’s funny reading how someone can find a way to blame CONSERVATIVES on a topic that’s about local transportation issues. Everybody wants to be a comedian nowadays.
There, I made you the owner of your intentions.”
Well it is a Republican appointee so the connection isn’t a stretch.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
10:15 am
“Are you kidding? Your community organizer mirrors JC in unemployment, gas prices, Big Oil condemnation, foreign policy appeasement, economic failures, etc.”
hate to be the one to break it to you, but the “worst unemployment since 1974″ took place BEFORE HE EVEN TOOK OFFICE … so, are you saying that W is like Carter?
OPEC caused the gas crisis of the 70s, speculation is causing the current one
Big Oil Condemnation???? they’re making record profits!!! do you hear the words that are coming out of your mouth (so to speak)
Foreigh Policy Appeasement??? wtf are you talking about??? who have we “appeased” ??? Libya? Pakistan? who???
and since when is turning the economy around from heading over a cliff to positive growth a “failure”???
what an idiot.
Jefferson
April 27th, 2012
10:15 am
Vote Yes to improve the quality of life in Atlanta.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
10:16 am
“One does not have to cheer. It is collapsing on it’s own. ”
and black = white
and up = down.
thanks for the lesson on right-wing thinking.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
10:17 am
stevie ray: failed to take responsibility for anything
Incorrect
failed to lead divided congress instead blaming obstructists, hope, change, guantanamo
So he wasn’t actually a Messiah like you guys on the right thought. I’m SOOOOO sorry he was so disappointing to people who didn’t and will never vote for him
I and others have been over why the above argument does not represent a failure on Obama’s part, but you guys just aren’t listening so there’s no point in repeating it.
fighting and prosecuting wall street
He did do that, actually
pushing a HC bill majority don’t want than likely won’t stand court scrutiny…
Actually the majority want everything in the bill except the mandate. You might want to look that up. It basically means the majority wants all the services and regulations, but doesn’t want to pay for it. I assume you’re one of those.
failed energy policy…
How so? Gas prices? Because those are dropping again.
Don't Tread
April 27th, 2012
10:18 am
I will agree, Todd Long should have stayed.
Now consider that we have Sotomayor and Kagan on the Supreme Court. Were there better qualified candidates that could have been chosen? Absolutely. But politics trumped qualifications in these cases, too.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
10:18 am
UsinUK: and since when is turning the economy around from heading over a cliff to positive growth a “failure”???
I sometimes wonder if the children of people who think this way get beatings at home every time they bring home a test that scores anything less than 100%.
kayaker 71
April 27th, 2012
10:19 am
For openers…..
The largest debt ever accumulated and unemployment is still at 8.2%, more like 12-14% if you count everyone.
Our debt now exceeds our GDP.
We still have record foreclosures and nearly 1 in every 4 homeowner is under water.
More people on food stamps than at any time in our history.
Lies….. “you can keep your doctor and your insurance plan”. “This health care bill will only cost 940B dollars”. “The stimulus will create 2 million shovel ready jobs”. “We have record drilling efforts to stabilize the price of gasoline”. “The Chevy Volt is the key to weaning us off fossil fuel dependence”. And the biggest of all…. ” If you make less than 250K/yr, your taxes will not go up a single dime”.
How do you liberals tolerate this crap?
Brosephus™
April 27th, 2012
10:19 am
williebkind
It’s funny reading how someone can find a way to blame CONSERVATIVES on a topic that’s about local transportation issues. Everybody wants to be a comedian nowadays.
Are you saying that conservatives are not responsible for this clusterf**k?? I doubt very seriously that Deal got elected due to the LIBERAL vote. Be a man and own up to your sh*t for once instead of trying to blame somebody else. You’ll get a bit more respect as a man when you own up to your own mistakes.
EJ Moosa
April 27th, 2012
10:19 am
“thanks for the lesson on right-wing thinking.”
Thanks for the lesson on the fear of cheering.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
10:21 am
Don’t Tread: In what way were the two justices you mentioned quantifiable more political than qualified (implying not qualified enough, but more politically viable?)? If they were all about politics, and less about qualifications than politics, how come they were confirmed when the Senate routinely filibusters and holds up all kinds of nominations?
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
10:21 am
EJ Moosa – 10:19 – no, you guys go right on cheering for the demise of the US – we see you and know you for who and what you are.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
10:22 am
The largest debt ever accumulated and unemployment is still at 8.2%, more like 12-14% if you count everyone.
Correction: The unemployment has gone DOWN to 8.2%, more like GONE DOWN FROM 17% to 14% if you include everyone.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
10:23 am
you can keep your doctor and your insurance plan
Please explain how this is a lie. Have you been forced to take a different doctor or insurance plan?
paulo 977
April 27th, 2012
10:23 am
Jay
The decision to appoint Carr, on the other hand, doesn’t exactly boost voter confidence that politics won’t dictate how their transportation dollars will be spent.
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Come on now , this is exactly what the voters in this red state want!!!They don’t care about what is rational, fair or just . They just vote REPUBLICAN !!!
getalife
April 27th, 2012
10:23 am
They just sling poo to see what sticks.
kay,
If you want to know what real failure is google w.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
10:23 am
Adam – 10:18 – the people who say that crap are the same ones who blame the TEACHER if the kid gets anything less than 100%
(the teacher is, after all, a government employee – they expect no less)
EJ Moosa
April 27th, 2012
10:24 am
Just as a reminder, this is what I penned almost a year ago.
“So this is what is going to turn the heat up on Obama’s goose cooking as we speak. Over the next 12 months, we will hear relentlessly about the Obama recovery. We will hear about the jobs growth we have had and the Obama administration will, of course, dismiss any ideas that it is weakening. They will say it is not where they would like it, but it is headed in the right direction. They are very wrong. By surrounding himself with people that haven’t a clue on what drives the private sector economy, there is no sense of cause and effect in the White House. So there are no efforts to address the problems we face in the economy. At least not real solutions that affect the real causes.”
http://www.nolanchart.com/article8700-obamas-goose-is-simmering.html
Even more true today.
Watch as the Obama supporters deny this is a weak GDP number. Even if it was negative, you would be defending it as better than things were.
Reality is going to be a bitter pill for many of you to swallow. But swallow it you will.
ty webb
April 27th, 2012
10:24 am
Don’t blame me, I voted for Monds(going against my obvious “racist” beliefs of course)
Adam
April 27th, 2012
10:24 am
“We have record drilling efforts to stabilize the price of gasoline”
No such quote exists – from anyone – ever.
Except you, I suppose.
ty webb
April 27th, 2012
10:25 am
“Come on now , this is exactly what the voters in this red state want!!!They don’t care about what is rational, fair or just . They just vote REPUBLICAN !!!”
someone’s history book only goes back ten years or so.
Brosephus™
April 27th, 2012
10:26 am
ty
Adam
April 27th, 2012
10:26 am
USinUK: Teachers need to be allowed to give students the grades they earn/deserve, without fear of parental reprisal or being fired for doing so.
But you’re right, the party of personal responsibility likes to take credit for successes they didn’t help to create, and blame everyone – anyone – else for their failures. The difference between the GOP and the Democrats in the past few election cycles is that the GOP actually HAS been at fault for bad policy, and the GOP is trying to “muddy the waters” by saying that the Democrats are just playing a blame game when they call them out for their actions.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
10:28 am
Saving EJ Moosa’s comments for when the economy does NOT tank for 2012 like he’s expecting it to.
EJ Moosa
April 27th, 2012
10:28 am
EJ Moosa – 10:19 – no, you guys go right on cheering for the demise of the US – we see you and know you for who and what you are.
Yes you know us as the producers in America. Thanks for the endorsement.
Your ignorance is amazing. No one is cheering the demise of America. It’s the policies of a federal government run amok, with it central planning office in DC, that we will see fail.
To expect that we would be behind policies that weaken the US in the long run is your biggest failure in the area of critical thinking.
The fact that you refuse to admit something is not working is your second.
EJ Moosa
April 27th, 2012
10:29 am
It’s already tanking Adam. You provide an excellent example of exactly the point I am making.
Thanks for making it so easy.
getalife
April 27th, 2012
10:29 am
The cons don’t get it.
The collapse caused slow growth for a decade.
Collapses have consequences cons.
You can’t ignore that fact.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
10:29 am
“no, you guys go right on cheering for the demise of the US – we see you and know you for who and what you are.”
Yes you know us as the producers in America.
Nice. So the people who “produce” want the economy to tank? Thanks for clearing that up….
Adam
April 27th, 2012
10:30 am
EJ Moosa: It’s not tanking at all. Where do you get that idea?
Jefferson
April 27th, 2012
10:31 am
What makes anyone belive the GOP will do any different than they did before ? They ran the deficit up and borrowed money without question, so why should they be belived ? They won’t do any better and more than likely will make the situation worse with their plan.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
10:31 am
Here’s an analogy: If gas prices rise, oh say, 1 cent per month, are gas prices tanking?
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
10:32 am
“Yes you know us as the producers in America. ”
no, that’s not the word I would use.
as for cheering the demise, that’s EXACTLY what you’re doing when you declare that 2.2% growth is negative
go back to the chart I posted earlier – that is the average growth that we saw following the Bush Senior recession in the early 1990s through 2008
2.2% – good, solid growth that keeps the economy from becoming overheated. It’s based on consumer spending with a decrease in the government contribution. what’s not to like?
just because you don’t LIKE the policies doesn’t mean that the policies are weakening the US … it just means that you don’t like them.
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
10:34 am
“Occupy Movement types without jobs.”
Quit spitting on veterans.
And not just me.
ty webb
April 27th, 2012
10:36 am
“Occupy Movement types without jobs.”
in their defense, it’s rather hard to get a job with public defecation and rape on your resume.
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
10:38 am
I am concerned you Moonbats may not be preparing yourself mentality for the big smack-down of Obama coming from SCOTUS?
Are you ready for a ruling against Obamacare, supporting the AZ immigration bill, and, rumor has it, something is in-work over Fast & Furious plus failing to prosecute the new black panthers on the voting place intimidation.
carlosgvv
April 27th, 2012
10:38 am
Since this is an election year, Obama and the Democrats will do everything in their power to improve things in America. By the same token, Boehner and the Republicans will do everything in their power to cause Obama and the Democrats to fail. Is there anyone here still naive enough to be surprised to see Republicans put Party above the welfare of the people?
Don't Tread
April 27th, 2012
10:39 am
“it’s rather hard to get a job with public defecation and rape on your resume.”
Don’t forget arson.
kayaker 71
April 27th, 2012
10:40 am
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure.
It is a sign that the US Government can’t pay it’s bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Govt’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here”. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. America deserves better”
Senator Barak Hussein Obama
March, 2006
Read the above very carefully, liberals. Then read it again. This is Mr. Cool talking. And you are going to vote to put this clown back into office?
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
10:40 am
And ty just loves spitting on veterans. He does it every chance he gets.
Must have learned supporting the troops from his paragon of courage, Slut & Prostitute Limbaugh…
Jefferson
April 27th, 2012
10:41 am
Dang John, I though you was a moonbat and you are calling folks moonbats, my bad I guess. For the record, what are you ?
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
10:41 am
Here ya go Tread, spit on these guys…
http://www.thenation.com/sites/default/files/user/20/ows_veterans2_ap_img.jpg
getalife
April 27th, 2012
10:41 am
“And you are going to vote to put this clown back into office?”
Nah, we will not vote gop.
You should know that by now.
The Thin Guy
April 27th, 2012
10:42 am
If being qualified for a job were important to Jay Bookman and his Midtown Munchkins they wouldn’t support ØDumbø who is simply a particularly egregious amalgamation of The Peter Principle and Affirmative Action. When Governor Sonny ran for gov he said one of the first things he would do when he took office would be to synchronize all the red lights in Atlanta. So, as I drive to work today (work is something you have to do when you don’t get a government check and can blog all day), I will marvel at the precise and transparent traffic signal system which would make a Swiss watch look like a sundial situated in a cave. Time to Wok the Dog.
yuzeyurbrane
April 27th, 2012
10:42 am
In weighing the merits and demerits of the T-Splost vote, the large number of pork projects it contains have now become an even bigger demerit.
Oscar
April 27th, 2012
10:42 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54XRNQ2C2×0&feature=related
Doggone/GA
April 27th, 2012
10:42 am
“in their defense, it’s rather hard to get a job with public defecation and rape on your resume”
And it’s really hard to be taken seriously when all you have is ugly to fall back on
Brosephus™
April 27th, 2012
10:43 am
Yes you know us as the producers in America. Thanks for the endorsement.
Your ignorance is amazing. No one is cheering the demise of America. It’s the policies of a federal government run amok, with it central planning office in DC, that we will see fail.
So, the “producers” in America are cheering for it’s downfall all because of policies put in place that don’t allow people to pillage and burn with impunity…. Ok… We’ve already seen the human nature when placed in a loosly regulated capitalistic system. Greed IS one of the seven deadly sins.
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
10:43 am
What a shame you big bad brave neocons weren’t in NYC back then. You could have spit on a ton of troops at one time…
Thousands of U.S. military veterans are heeding the rallying cry of Occupy Wall Street, saying corporate contractors in Iraq made big money while the troops defending them came home — and can’t make a living now.
“For too long, our voices have been silenced, suppressed and ignored in favor of the voices of Wall Street and the banks and the corporations,” said Joseph Carter, a 27-year-old Iraq war veteran who marched Wednesday to Zuccotti Park, the epicenter of the movement that has spread worldwide.
The former Army sergeant from Seattle spoke to fellow Occupy protesters and passersby on Broadway after joining about 100 veterans marching in uniform from the Vietnam Veterans Plaza through Manhattan’s financial district nearby.
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
April 27th, 2012
10:43 am
jamvet found a picture of a couple of soldiers at an Occupy rally and now he thinks the Occupy movement is movement by Veterans.
LMAO
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
10:43 am
New documentary on the way about “Occupy.” Seems it was funded by Soros organizations and SEIU as a reaction to the Tea Party. Violence, including rape, property destruction, drugs, defacating/urinating in public, trashing everything they touched, and meetings on making violence.
Yea, a bunch Obama, Nancy, Harry and the like think is great. The Occupy childern were useful idiots to put the class warfare scenario into place for Obama to use to divide the nation since he can’t run on his record.
How do you continue to support the guy? Do you hate Republicans that much?
ty webb
April 27th, 2012
10:45 am
Jamvet,
no, I appreciate all veterans for their service. Though their service alone doesn’t exclude them for criticism for their actions later in life…and the occusquatters aren’t all veterans.
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
10:46 am
“The Occupy childern (sic) were useful idiots…”
Another never-served manchild who hates veterans.
Veteran unemployment rate outstrips the national average and is expected to worsen. They worry about preservation of First Amendment rights. And they’re angry.
A week before Veterans Day, generations of former U.S. military men and women threw their considerable weight behind the Occupy movement born in mid-September when about 100 protesters also marched in the Wall Street area.
“For 10 years, we have been fighting wars that have enriched the wealthiest 1 percent, decimated our economy and left our nation with a generation of traumatized and wounded veterans that will require care for years to come,” said Carter, who leads the national Iraq Veterans Against the War group.
SupportSpit on the Troops.Butch Cassidy
April 27th, 2012
10:46 am
EJ Moosa – “Yes you know us as the producers in America”
Not only am I retired, but since most of my income is derived from sheltered investments, I don’t pay any capitol gains taxes, which in effect makes me one of the dreaded 47%. The conundrum, is that becuase I’m “well off” I’m automatically classified as a job creator or “producer” yet I create and produce nothing more than more income for myself.
So EJ, am I OWS or am I a producer?
Jm
April 27th, 2012
10:47 am
Occupy is the new communist party
ty webb
April 27th, 2012
10:47 am
Jamvet,
Care to site the source of that propaganda in your 10:43?
Mick
April 27th, 2012
10:48 am
reb
Class warfare is fiction…it’s over..the rich have and always will, win. What’s disappointing is their water carrying minions from the lower class – blind obedience…
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
10:48 am
JamVet – I put in 4 years in the USAF during the Vietman war, so stuff that crap where the sun does not shine.
Any veterns participating in the Occupy movement are misguided souls being used, unfortunately, as useful idiots by Obama supporters.
commoncents
April 27th, 2012
10:48 am
Hiring someone who is not qualified for a job is not just a Republican/Democrat problem, and it’s not limited to GA, either.
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
10:50 am
“no, I appreciate all veterans for their service.”
Sure. Your gratitude is both overwhelming and obvious.
You slander them with all sorts of vile names and malicious lies.
And you are not worthy of shining those combat veterans boots.
SupportSpit on the Troops.JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
10:51 am
Reb, it obviously makes you feel superior, so go ahead.
SupportSpit on Fellow Veterans and the Troops.carlosgvv
April 27th, 2012
10:52 am
After a careful review, I find the observations and comments of all you “compassionate conservatives” about as interesting as last year’s snow.
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
10:52 am
Mick – are you familiar with the saying, ” you can’t fight city hall? In effect, it means you can’t fight the money. Most middle class don’t even realize to use our legal system it takes more money than they can pay.
Butch Cassidy
April 27th, 2012
10:52 am
JohnnyReb – “Any veterns participating in the Occupy movement are misguided souls being used, unfortunately, as useful idiots by Obama supporters.”
I’m sure the same thing was said about Colonials when they dared to go up against King George.
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
10:54 am
Bloomberg Business Week.
Could you possibly be any lazier?
Peadawg
April 27th, 2012
10:54 am
JamVet, spit on the troops? Really dude? You f*king sick. Take that crap somewhere else.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
10:54 am
Brocephus – 10:43
remember:
pillage BEFORE you burn.
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
10:54 am
JamVet – I am a member of the DAV Commanders Club. If you think that is spitting on veterans, then you are hopelessly lost.
Oscar
April 27th, 2012
10:55 am
carlosgvv
April 27th, 2012
10:52 am
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No, I think last year’s snow is much more interesting.
commoncents
April 27th, 2012
10:55 am
Carlosgvv @ 12:52 – “After a careful review, I find the observations and comments of all you “compassionate conservatives” about as interesting as last year’s snow.”
Interestingly enough, aren’t all the “compassionate liberals” still writing reports and making movies based on that snow?
Brosephus™
April 27th, 2012
10:58 am
Any veterns participating in the Occupy movement are misguided souls being used, unfortunately, as useful idiots by Obama supporters.
So, any veteran that chooses to express their 1st Amendment rights and don’t toe what you think should be the “veteran line” are misguided souls being used as useful idiots? Interesting idea. That seems quite logical when one supports a party and ideology that requires everybody to march in lockstep with each other and straying from the ideology is not tolerated. However, this is America, and people have the right to speak out on whatever they personally choose to. You don’t dictate what veterans can speak out about any more than JamVet does.
Oscar
April 27th, 2012
10:58 am
Mick
April 27th, 2012
10:48 am
___
Class warfare is not over. It will go on forever. Always been here. Sometimes the poor win, but then they become the rich and it continues.
History is the story of velvet slippers going downstairs and rough boots going upstairs.
Brosephus™
April 27th, 2012
10:59 am
USinner
That’s why I was failed by the “producers”. I burned everything to the ground.
Oscar
April 27th, 2012
11:02 am
sephus™
April 27th, 2012
10:59 am
__________
Always thought you were too impulsive.
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2012
11:04 am
I see the compassionate conservatives are back to posting their hate rhetoric about fellow citizens exercizing their constitutional rights. Go ahead and produce those court documents detailing all of their criminal offenses, conned.
I’d like to see your comparison of criminal offenses per one thousand occupiers per year to that of other similarly populated areas. Show us your math skills.
Bruno
April 27th, 2012
11:04 am
For those who voted for Deal, you’re getting what you voted for. Corruption in… corruption out.
Brosephus–In case you forgot, the Democratic opponent for Deal was Roy Barnes. Roy’s solution to our state’s transportation problems when he was Governor was to build an Outer Perimeter across North GA. That project was abandoned only after it was revealed that many of King Roy’s big money campaign contributors coincidentally owned huge tracts of land along the proposed route.
Now, I realize that seeking context is waaaay beyond the scope of most of the Libs here, but I think you’re a bigger person than that. Corruption and cronyism runs both ways in this state.
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
11:04 am
Brosephus – just because someone joins a movement and uses their first amendment rights does not automatically mean they are not being a useful idiot.
The Occupy Movement did not just sprout up on its own
It was put in place by Obama supporters to counter the Tea Party and create a narrative for Obama because he can’t run on his record.
Any thoughts of Occupy being some patriotic movement for economic equality is wishful thinking and participation as a useful idiot.
Oscar
April 27th, 2012
11:05 am
Are people on here argueing about whether it is ok to spit on veterans? Really?
Butch Cassidy
April 27th, 2012
11:05 am
Bro – “I burned everything to the ground. ”
“What is best in life? To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.”
Brosephus™
April 27th, 2012
11:06 am
Oscar
At my pillage and burn final, this was my performance…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XchwE9zVdnw
Jm
April 27th, 2012
11:06 am
When Deal is up for re-election, Georgians will have to seriously ask themselves why they would re elect Deal
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
11:07 am
Reb,
You are a perfect neocon. And dittohead.
You and your pals denigrate combat veterans – or is it phony soldiers? – constantly. You call them tools, rapists, arsonists and then tell everyone what a great friend of veterans you are.
With “friends” and “supporters” like you and ty and host of other fake conservatives, who amongst combat veterans, need enemies?
You quasi-fascists just need to quit laying loogeys on those veterans for exercising their god given American right to protest exercise free speech.
They are patriots.
Try being one yourself.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
11:08 am
mmmmmmmm … lamentations … and bacon
ty webb
April 27th, 2012
11:09 am
following Jamvet’s(D-apologist) theorem…anyone criticizing Governor Deal for his transportation policies, is in fact, “spitting” on a veteran.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
April 27th, 2012
11:11 am
Roy’s solution to our state’s transportation problems when he was Governor was to build an Outer Perimeter across North GA. That project was abandoned only after it was revealed that many of King Roy’s big money campaign contributors coincidentally owned huge tracts of land along the proposed route.
The Outer Perimeter will eventually be built, just like the GA. 400 extension was built after it too was abandoned.
Oscar
April 27th, 2012
11:12 am
utch Cassidy
April 27th, 2012
11:05 am
-_—-_____________________________________
Sounds like something our of Joshua or Lamentations.
Bruno
April 27th, 2012
11:12 am
When Deal is up for re-election, Georgians will have to seriously ask themselves why they would re elect Deal
Jm–It might help if the Dems could find a decent candidate to give folks a choice. I’ve voted for many, many Democrats at the state and local level.
Oscar
April 27th, 2012
11:14 am
GOP has too much of a majority in Georgia at present, and will have for a few more years. Deal is pretty safe.
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
April 27th, 2012
11:15 am
JamVet – Spitting on Veteran’s is pretending you speak for all of them.
Peadawg
April 27th, 2012
11:15 am
“Are people on here argueing about whether it is ok to spit on veterans? Really?”
JamVet’s the one spouting that garbage.
Bruno
April 27th, 2012
11:16 am
The Outer Perimeter will eventually be built, just like the GA. 400 extension was built after it too was abandoned.
At the time, Kam, I thought the Outer Perimeter idea was worth looking into. I believe it was defeated due to its immense cost along with protests from homeowners who were afraid their property values would plummet. But, I again think it’s worth mentioning that the level of corruption/cronyism under Barnes wasn’t much different than under Deal.
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
April 27th, 2012
11:17 am
“Are people on here argueing about whether it is ok to spit on veterans? Really?”
*facepalm* Get a clue would you.
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
11:18 am
More
useful idiotsarsonist and rapists for ya, Reb and ty.In NY.
http://tinyurl.com/cwlsco5
In Michigan.
http://www.nilesstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/111112OccupyVeterans3.jpg
Bruno
April 27th, 2012
11:18 am
Jam–I see you’re back in form this AM. I hope the Greg Lake concert last night gave you a brief respite from your angst.
PB gave Greg high marks for his musicianship, and she’s an extremely tough critic. ( I know, I know, then what is she doing with me??)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt-sfNULEzE
Mark in mid-town
April 27th, 2012
11:22 am
2.2% growth is below-trend growth and terrible by any historic measure for this stage of an economic recovery.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
11:22 am
ooooooooo … Greg Lake??? holy moly – was he still on form?
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
11:22 am
Steve.
Take it up with your veteran slurring pals, Reb and ty.
Or don’t, and just agree with them that they are misguided souls being used and useful idiots…
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
11:24 am
JamVet – I don’t know what alternate universe you reside. All the Conservatives I know praise veterans in general. That includes the Conservative radio and TV shows.
You seem to be under some misguided notion that anything a veteran chooses to participate in is genuinely worthwhile.
You are one of the most misguided do-gooders I read on this blog.
This is my last response to you on this. You need help.
Bruno
April 27th, 2012
11:24 am
In case getalife pokes his head in, I just want it to be known that I have already paid my bet with Jam off TWICE even before the next Presidential election. getalife seems to be operating under some illusion that Cons welch on their bets. Jam had better hope that Obama wins now, or else he’s REALLY going to owe me big on the concert paybacks. I’m thinking a private performance by both Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin.
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
11:24 am
ex-pat, on form?
The guy is a god. Albeit a very humble one.
A consummate artist and showman, I could have listened to him for hours and hours…
Oscar
April 27th, 2012
11:25 am
Yeah, the guyu sitting on the white can looks like a violent rapist for sure.
Is there a point here.
barking frog
April 27th, 2012
11:26 am
Veterans have no special
priviliege except as afforded
by law and honorable
veterans ask for no more.
Brosephus™
April 27th, 2012
11:26 am
Bruno
You wanna talk context? Were there were better candidates than Deal or Barnes? I’d say yeah. In that particular primary, I voted for Dubose Porter because I had confidence that conservatives would choose a good candidate on the right. I didn’t have that same confidence in the left. Based on the political leaning of the state at that time, the direction of the state was pretty much in the hands of the GOP primary voters. Trust me, I know the context of which I speak. This ain’t about no liberal bias.
———————–
JReb
You could have saved yourself loads of time and simply said “yes, I think they’re useful idiots.” All that double talk was completely unnecessary.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
11:26 am
Bruno – if you’re anywhere near spotify right now, go check out Caro Emerald … I think she might blow your skirt up …
ty webb
April 27th, 2012
11:26 am
Jamvet(D-apologist) only defends veterans who share his perspective…the rest are fair game.
Thulsa Doom
April 27th, 2012
11:26 am
“What is best in life? To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women”
Butch Cassidy,
One of the alltime great movie quotes. I can’t imagine where it came from.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
April 27th, 2012
11:27 am
Bruno
You probably weren’t here during the decades that the residents of Dunwoody fought fiercely against the Ga 400 extension. On numerous occasions they claimed victory. In the end, the need for traffic relief prevailed and the road was built.
The DOT has already acquired much of the land necessary to begin the outer perimeter across the north side of the metro area, but the problem still remains — how to cross the Chattahoochee River. It has to be done just South of the dam, just about where Ga.20 is. There are only a few places to cross the river going from east to west and those are the points of congestion in what is known as the platinum triangle — the area that lies north of the perimeter and between I-75 and I-85
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
11:27 am
Jam Vet – ELP was an amazing band … I didn’t know any of them were still performing …
Bruno
April 27th, 2012
11:27 am
ooooooooo … Greg Lake??? holy moly – was he still on form?
USinUK–All I can say is unfreakingbelievable!! The man even covered Elvis, the Beatles and Jimi Hendrix. As he said, you have to be either incredibly brave or incredibly stupid to try a stunt like that.
One of the most interesting parts of the show was an extended Q & A session with the audience. You would have been proud of the quality of the questions from the GA crowd.
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
11:28 am
B, like I said last night, you name it!
I’m not voting for Barry, so all it’s gonna take is more than a third of the women, a fifth of the Latinos and Jews in this country and Flip might have a chance!
One of the many awesome songs from his catalog we did not get to hear last night…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPZkivm1xhA&feature=related
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2012
11:31 am
Whatever happened to that wilder side of the Deal legacy anyway?
…The news of the sale of the Wilder Outdoors property brought Deal relief. But then when Diamond’s business background came to light, it prompted some ribbing about the conservative Republican governor on the political website Peach Pundit….On the other hand, Baldwin residents remember that about 10 years ago a Florida businessman bought a property in nearby Lavonia to open a biscuit restaurant. Instead, he put in a topless bar.
Time will tell.
doh!
April 27th, 2012
11:32 am
I was wondering why Hwy 365 up in Habersham County was repaved about a year ago as it was in fine shape. Then I learned that it runs along property owned by Governor Deal who was trying to sell it. Seems suspicious to me.
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
11:33 am
Jamvet(D-apologist) only defends veterans who share his perspective…the rest are fair game.
You mean I’ve called them arsonists, rapists, Occutards and useful idiots in need of baths like you and your buddies?
Do tell.
And to be quite clear, you make up the same malicious lies about police officers, school teachers, nuns and housewives who DARE take to the streets in protest.
You make no distinctions. To you they are all the same.
Pathetic…
Oscar
April 27th, 2012
11:33 am
I will say that at lest the music is good.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
11:34 am
“One of the most interesting parts of the show was an extended Q & A session with the audience. You would have been proud of the quality of the questions from the GA crowd.”
waitaminnit … I missed something … when did you move back to GA??
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
April 27th, 2012
11:34 am
I liked some of Greg Lakes work in Asia. OK…..maybe I am the only one.
They BOTH suck
April 27th, 2012
11:35 am
JREB
How is it going? Hope you had a good week
Is a vet a “useful idiot” if he blindly follows right leaning ideology?
carlosgvv
April 27th, 2012
11:35 am
And, upon still further review, I find the idea of Romeny being elected and the Tea Party Congress being re-elected about as attractive as a Dentist’s drill.
They BOTH suck
April 27th, 2012
11:35 am
Bruno and Jam
Hope you enjoyed the show
ty webb
April 27th, 2012
11:36 am
“You mean I’ve called them arsonists, rapists, Occutards and useful idiots in need of baths like you and your buddies?”
Amvet just lied.
getalife
April 27th, 2012
11:36 am
Bruno,
Good to hear you do not welch like Andy.
Oscar
April 27th, 2012
11:37 am
Thulsa Doom
April 27th, 2012
11:26 am
According to my friend google it is one of the memorable quotes from
Conan the Barbarian
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
11:38 am
Steve – USA – holy crap! I can’t believe that I forgot he was in Asia!!
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
11:39 am
USinUK, the format of the show was very unique.
He began by telling us that he had just finished his biography and that it caused him to explore this concept about how we are all united in that same journey – or tapestry – as he called it, whereby our memories are forever connected to songs we heard. He spoke of seeing Elvis in Vegas and how that depressed him, because he knew he could never be the King!
And like every other sane person on the planet, he spoke adoringly of the Beatles.
For me, I instantly thought of the magic unleashed by Please, Please Me and Love Me Do. And that killer saxophone intro to Satisfaction and the sweetest harmonies I had ever heard on Barbara Ann.
And Bruno is right. The crowd interaction part was awesome!
His encore…
Welcome back my friend
To the show that never ends
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZcYP00b2FI
GT
April 27th, 2012
11:40 am
Love to have an exit interview with Todd Long. I imagine he told one of Deal’s henchmen to stick it when he was bidding on a contract. These are the people who want to run our national government? Give them credit they are very transparent crooks, no need hiding it in this state, it is like communism, one party rule. It is when they get on the national scene and there is accountability and people don’t buy their misdirection that the rubber misses the road. No wonder Newt and Herman thought they were presidential timber, they thought it was all about stealing, womanizing, lying and getting away with it.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
11:44 am
JamVet – wow. sounds like it was an amazing show!!
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
11:46 am
They BOTH suck
April 27th, 2012
11:35 am
JREB
How is it going? Hope you had a good week
Is a vet a “useful idiot” if he blindly follows right leaning ideology?
__________________
Greetings. Yes, he could be. The Left does not have a monopoly on insanity, they just display it more often.
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
11:47 am
carlosgvv
April 27th, 2012
11:35 am
And, upon still further review, I find the idea of Romeny being elected and the Tea Party Congress being re-elected about as attractive as a Dentist’s drill.
_________________
Don’t worry; we have gas for that.
They BOTH suck
April 27th, 2012
11:49 am
Reb
“Greetings. Yes, he could be. The Left does not have a monopoly on insanity, they just display it more often.”
Fair enough my man………. Mucho props for replying……
There is a least one blogger in particular, maybe more, that I’m confident would have ignored that post or changed the goal post as a deflection and smokescreen
Have a great weekend
getalife
April 27th, 2012
11:49 am
“The Left does not have a monopoly on insanity, they just display it more often.”
That is debatable.
I think the cons are way ahead on insanity.
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
11:53 am
two words:
Michelle
Bachmann.
two more:
Phyllis
Schlafley
oh, heck, two more:
Herman
Cain
They BOTH suck
April 27th, 2012
11:53 am
“Don’t worry; we have gas for that.”
Forget politics…….. that was witty
hahahahaha
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
April 27th, 2012
11:53 am
“I think the cons are way ahead on insanity.”
Another Brosephus bumper sticker? “We’re Insane but you’re more insane.”
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
April 27th, 2012
11:54 am
getalife
April 27th, 2012
9:54 am
del,
Please name the failures.
____________________________________________________________________________
Although not asked of me:
Cap and Trade – not passed
Single payer – opted for the mandate
2 budgets – neither passed
closing getmo – couldn’t convince congress
Dream Act – not passed
Union
April 27th, 2012
11:55 am
yawn
getalife
April 27th, 2012
11:56 am
Steve,
To the lef,t our President is not good enough.
To the right , he is a disaster.
To proud Independents like me, Clinton’s third term.
Cut me another slice of that peace and prosperity please.
Paul
April 27th, 2012
11:57 am
JohnnyReb
“just because someone joins a movement and uses their first amendment rights does not automatically mean they are not being a useful idiot.”
Ever thought the DAVs or American Legion members or VFW members who support the Tea Party and NRA are useful idiots?
Seems consistent with your point about vets who support OWS, doesn’t it?
268 more days
April 27th, 2012
11:57 am
AmVet=one sick fly boy
Paul
April 27th, 2012
11:58 am
JohnnyReb
Saw your 11:46 after I posted, so you answered.
So did getalife’s 11:49 -
ragnar danneskjold
April 27th, 2012
11:59 am
Given that the alternative to a “politician-director” is a bureaucrat wholly insensitive to public will, I’ll take the politico.
getalife
April 27th, 2012
11:59 am
TBG,
I know you give corrupt congress a free pass but he is not a dictator.
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
April 27th, 2012
12:01 pm
getalife-
I wish either side could inspire me but it’s just not happening. In 2008 I was driving and saw some woman holding a candidates sign in the pouring rain. I don’t recall which one but I do remember thinking, I wish there was someone out there that I believed in to the point I would stand in a driving rainstorm for them.
Peadawg
April 27th, 2012
12:01 pm
“To proud Independents like me,”
getalife an independent? Yup, and I’m married to Emma Stone.
Paul
April 27th, 2012
12:01 pm
ragnar
How far do you extend that?
Are you advocating all directors throughout state government should be political appointees with no background in the field?
Oscar
April 27th, 2012
12:02 pm
gnar danneskjold
April 27th, 2012
11:59 am
_______________
You have a good point there.
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
12:03 pm
Dated meat, quit spitting on the troops.
Including me.
Adam
April 27th, 2012
12:03 pm
TBG: Cap and Trade – not passed
Single payer – opted for the mandate
2 budgets – neither passed
closing getmo – couldn’t convince congress
Dream Act – not passed
Why “failure” as a label for these things?
LUNCH
getalife
April 27th, 2012
12:03 pm
Steve,
I never thought he was superman and my expectations was I hope he listens to President Clinton.
I think Clinton and Obama are as good as it gets for politicians.
Bruno
April 27th, 2012
12:04 pm
He spoke of seeing Elvis in Vegas and how that depressed him, because he knew he could never be the King!
I especially enjoyed his story about seeing Jimi Hendrix for the first time. Apparently Jimi was late for the gig, and was forced to tune his guitar on stage, which didn’t go over well with the Brighton College crowd. In spite of a lot of hooting and hollering, he finally got tuned up and promptly launched into “Foxy Lady”. Needless to say, the jeers soon turned to cheers. Greg remarked that he instantly became depressed in realizing that the bar was now set much, much higher for him and every rocker who would follow. He claimed that when Jimi threw his guitar to the ground, it still sounded better than when Greg was holding his own firmly in his hands.
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
12:04 pm
Paul
April 27th, 2012
11:57 am
JohnnyReb
“just because someone joins a movement and uses their first amendment rights does not automatically mean they are not being a useful idiot.”
Ever thought the DAVs or American Legion members or VFW members who support the Tea Party and NRA are useful idiots?
Seems consistent with your point about vets who support OWS, doesn’t it?
______________________________
Paul, comparing the Tea Party to the Occupy crowd is a huge stretch and you know it. You can however compare the idiology.
I see the idiology divide to be the Tea Party crowd protesting over government spending and the deficit. There are side bars, but those two points are the thrust of it.
On the otherhand, the Occupy crowd basically has their hand out. Sure, they have complaints about Wall Street, Capitalisim, etc. but when it really comes down to it, they conduct themselves and look like bums while complaining of those who have been successful. And, they want someone to pay off their loans, give them a high paying job, etc, etc.
Penny Pincher
April 27th, 2012
12:04 pm
JamVet – Stay ignorant, my friends…
April 27th, 2012
10:46 am
I am a Vet and do not support occupy. I see it as a good thing that as Americans, we are allowed to express our opinions even though others may not agree with them. Cheers
Oscar
April 27th, 2012
12:04 pm
JamVet – Stay ignorant, my friends…
April 27th, 2012
12:03 pm
Dated meat, quit spitting on the troops.
Including me.
____________
Quit spitting on anybody. Troops or not.
getalife
April 27th, 2012
12:05 pm
Pea,
I voted for Hillary.
too little time
April 27th, 2012
12:06 pm
transportation money is ALWAYS driven by politics. This occurs at both the Federal and State level, no matter who is in charge. Any time you pool money (via taxes) and 1) decide what projects to go forward with and 2) divvy out money to those projects, then politics rule the process.
And if policy ruled the process, then politics sets the policy. So, directly or indirectly, politics rules the transportation process. It always has.
Peadawg
April 27th, 2012
12:07 pm
“I voted for Hillary.” – Ok, how does that make you an independent? She’s a democrat.
Paul
April 27th, 2012
12:07 pm
“I think Clinton and Obama are as good as it gets for politicians.”
Realistic expectations.
Oscar
April 27th, 2012
12:08 pm
too little time
April 27th, 2012
12:06 pm
_________
When it comes to roads, the voters get what they want. To that extent, it is politics. Officals are just responding to the voters on road building.
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
12:09 pm
Penny Pincher.
Salute.
Thank goodness, there is ONE person on this forum who is opposed to the Occupy movement, who isn’t so cowardly that they have to maliciously slander everyone involved, like Reb and ty have…
Oscar
April 27th, 2012
12:09 pm
Paul
April 27th, 2012
12:07 pm
_________
Better to have someone in office who is reasonable and pragmatic. Four more years for Obama.
Paul
April 27th, 2012
12:09 pm
JohnnyReb
“comparing the Tea Party to the Occupy crowd is a huge stretch and you know it. ”
Which is why I didn’t.
I compared vets in various organizations supporting causes funded by outsiders and special interests.
“the Occupy crowd basically has their hand out.”
As does the Tea Party. They want to keep their ‘gimmies’ but not pay the taxes to support the programs. Or cut their ‘gimmies’ to get spending in line with revenue.
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
12:10 pm
I watched Fox News Sunday when Chris Wallace interviewed his dad. Mike reminded Chris that those on the Left are patriots too. Mike was right.
So hats off to my patriotic political opponents and good day. That goes to you to JamVet.
Paul
April 27th, 2012
12:11 pm
Oscar
Reasonable and pragmatic.
Anathema to the Republican Right.
No compromise, ever. “We didn’t send you to Washington to compromise” is a familiar refrain heard by Congressmen.
liberalefty
April 27th, 2012
12:11 pm
MITTENS vp will not be black or a woman
getalife
April 27th, 2012
12:12 pm
Pea,
She is a moderate dem.
I heard your boy rush attack her again.
Yeah, there is no war on women?
ty webb
April 27th, 2012
12:13 pm
“MITTENS vp will not be black or a woman”
neither will Obama’s.
Peadawg
April 27th, 2012
12:14 pm
“I heard your boy rush attack her again.” – My boy? Not even a little bit. I’ve never once listened to him.
“She is a moderate dem.” – Again, how does that make you an independent?
DawgDad
April 27th, 2012
12:14 pm
“I don’t think running the state Republican Party prepares you for all that.”
Leaders at the top of any big organization are responsible for a LOT of things they cannot themselves do or do alone. You might have a point, and then again, you probably don’t.
268 more days
April 27th, 2012
12:16 pm
Understand fly boy, you are not the only vet on the blog. All vets have opinions, as do all non vets, so what is your problem?
You do nothing but disgrace vets with your rhetoric of lies all day.
I used to think you were a fence turtle, but you can’t even climb up on the fence, you would rather hide behind your “I am a vet and no one else’s opinion counts” rants.
You are so full of hate for non Democrats, it is pitiful.
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
12:16 pm
Oscar, agreed.
And I will never keep exposing the malicious lies from reb and ty regarding the thousands of awesome Americans – veterans, firefighters, policemen, nuns, housewives and every other category imaginable.
They childishly portray all of those who protests as scum. They have NEVER made any distinctions at all between the MINISCULE percnetage of miscreants and the HUGE percentage of great people out there.
Ask Reb.
To him they are ALL useful, misguided idiots.
Where is that mirror when they need one?!
getalife
April 27th, 2012
12:16 pm
Pea,
Not a fan of the corrupt parties and seldom support the dems.
Michael
April 27th, 2012
12:17 pm
We have an incredible state government. About 10 years ago they cut the unemployment compensation tax, because they didn’t like the surplus. Then, when the recession hit, they borrowed from the feds to pay unemployment benefits, since they had emptied the kitty.
This year they ran a couple tax cuts through just before the end of the session. However, they are repaying the feds over time by reducing unemployment benefits. They were bailed out by the feds, and now they are going to stiff the feds over a longer period, while they call themselves heroes for cutting taxes. Pathetic.
Peadawg
April 27th, 2012
12:18 pm
“seldom support the dems.”
Your comments about Obama say otherwise.
Again, if you’re an independent, then I’m married to Emma Stone.
carlosgvv
April 27th, 2012
12:19 pm
JohnnyReb – 11:47
Will this gas make me a good Republican?
USinUK
April 27th, 2012
12:19 pm
YAY!!!! Juliette Low got the Presidential Medial of Freedom
http://onlineathens.com/local-news/2012-04-26/obama-awards-girl-scouts-founder-posthumous-medal#comment467489
a good day for girls … Georgians … and cookies everywhere
getalife
April 27th, 2012
12:21 pm
Pea,
We decide elections.
Deal with it.
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
12:21 pm
Dated meat, obviously you agree that those veterans who exercise their god given right to protests are useful idiots and scum.
You and Reb make quite a lovely couple…
Peadawg
April 27th, 2012
12:22 pm
“We decide elections.
Deal with it.”
Ok? Back to your trollish one/two-liners I see. Thank you Mr. Obvious.
Jm
April 27th, 2012
12:22 pm
Bruno 11:12 re deem candidate
Agreed
Who said it wasn't a Democrat movement
April 27th, 2012
12:22 pm
Do you know the park in NYC that the Wall Street protesters occupi E D? It’s Zuccotti Park . Did you know this park is not owned by the city of New York ? It is owned by Brookfield Properties.
Brookfield Asset Management received an Obama Department of Energy Loan guarantee of over $160 million within 10 days of approving the take over of the Park.
Brookfield is a Canadian company with assets of 70 billion. Google it! It is all on their website – and WHY is the US Taxpayer guaranteeing a loan to a VERY wealthy Canadian company?!?!
Who was just hired by Brookfield Properties as an attorney?
Vice President Joe Biden’s son.
Who sits on the board of Brookfield Properties?
Mayor Bloomberg’s live in girlfriend.
Now, guess what company just received some of the last of the Obama Stimulus $$$$$$$.
Thaaaaaaaaaaaat’s right, Brookfield Properties.
Isn’t life great in America !
Now guess what, on a completely unrelated note,
Wisconsin is shaping up to be the swing state in the 2012 presidential elections. Not Florida . Not Ohio . But Wisconsin .
Now, guess who owns the company that will be tabulating the electronic votes in Wisconsin .
Thaaaaaaaaaaaat’s right, the biggest contributor to Obama, the puppeteer George Soros. Whaaaaaaaaaaaat a coincidence!
Now remember what Stalin said. “He who votes does not have the power.
He who counts the votes has the power”
ty webb
April 27th, 2012
12:23 pm
“They childishly portray all of those who protests as scum. They have NEVER made any distinctions at all between the MINISCULE percnetage of miscreants and the HUGE percentage of great people out there.”
says Jamvet(D-apologist), who never shies away from “broad- brushing” groups with which he disagrees and never defends the tea party or the GOP or Conservatives in general(all of which include some vets) from baseless attacks (i.e, “racists”, ‘tea tards”)…hypocrite, thy name is Jamvet.
Peadawg
April 27th, 2012
12:24 pm
JamVet – Stay ignorant, my friends…
April 27th, 2012
12:21 pm
It was YOU who kept spouting “Spit on the Troops”. Sick. Absolutely sick.
getalife
April 27th, 2012
12:25 pm
Pea,
Thanks for your permission to opine.
Oscar
April 27th, 2012
12:27 pm
The occupy movement was a protest against corruption in Wall Street. Nothing wrong with that. They need protesting against.
and we could use some more legislation to regulate. It’s still a disaster waiting to happen. And when it falls again, the cons will blame it on lack of goverment regulation and oversight, that they fought against.
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
April 27th, 2012
12:29 pm
You may not agree with the column, but it is an interesting read.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304723304577368280604524916.html
“Try this thought experiment: You decide to donate money to Mitt Romney. You want change in the Oval Office, so you engage in your democratic right to send a check.
Several days later, President Barack Obama, the most powerful man on the planet, singles you out by name. His campaign brands you a Romney donor, shames you for “betting against America,” and accuses you of having a “less-than-reputable” record. The message from the man who controls the Justice Department (which can indict you), the SEC (which can fine you), and the IRS (which can audit you), is clear: You made a mistake donating that money”
The money line:
“Politics is rough, but a president has obligations that transcend those of a candidate. He swore an oath to protect and defend a Constitution that gives every American the right to partake in democracy, free of fear of government intimidation or disfavored treatment. “
carlosgvv
April 27th, 2012
12:29 pm
Who said – 12:22
And what majority of the Supreme Court stole the election from Al Gore and gave it to Bush?
Thaaaaaaaaaaat’s right. The conservative one. Looks like Stalin was correct.
getalife
April 27th, 2012
12:29 pm
Are you cons bringing up hypocrisy?
I don’t think you hypocrites can use that argument.
You have no shame for your hypocrisy.
268 more days
April 27th, 2012
12:30 pm
April 27th, 2012
12:21 pm
Dated meat, obviously you agree that those veterans who exercise their god given right to protests are useful idiots and scum.
You and Reb make quite a lovely couple
Please, with all you intelligence, show me where Reb or I said that. More of your daily lies
Man up, you are just trying to get something started with your vivid imagination
Sic fly boy, maybe you are suffering from lack of oxygen
jock Ellis
April 27th, 2012
12:32 pm
My political science prof at North Georgia College said in 1967 that state highway departments had nothing to do with highways and all to do with political favors. Boy, was he correct.
getalife
April 27th, 2012
12:32 pm
“Sic fly boy, maybe you are suffering from lack of oxygen.”
Stop spitting on a vet.
Thanks.
ragnar danneskjold
April 27th, 2012
12:33 pm
Dear Paul @ 12:01, good afternoon. “How far do you extend that? Are you advocating all directors throughout state government should be political appointees with no background in the field?” Not a bad idea that you posit – there is merit to having a director who would veto spending and/or policy expansion unless the “professionals” within the department could make a compelling argument to a neutral. Even better would be putting in a five-year term limit for any state employee, to eliminate life-tenure.
Mr_B
April 27th, 2012
12:34 pm
“And when it falls again, the cons will blame it on lack of goverment regulation and oversight, that they fought against.”
Nah…. they’ll blame it on the regulations that they made sure were toothless and uninforceable, because the market will police itself.
They BOTH suck
April 27th, 2012
12:34 pm
sheets
Rags………. you might like this one
Go upstairs and defend your girl
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
12:35 pm
Meat, you have grave comprehension and reading issues.
Suck up to reb, if you want; you seem good at that.
Read his useful idiots musings and quit feigning to be an ESL student…
JohnnyReb
April 27th, 2012
10:48 am
Any veterns (sic) participating in the Occupy movement are misguided souls being used, unfortunately, as useful idiots by Obama supporters.
Grow a pair and at least denounce that, meat…
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
April 27th, 2012
12:36 pm
JamVet – Stay ignorant, my friends…
April 27th, 2012
10:43 am
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Jam, are you saying that because a person is a vet no one should be critical of their actions, positions on topics, or misdeeds?
ragnar danneskjold
April 27th, 2012
12:36 pm
Dear Paul @ 12:07, ” ‘I think Clinton and Obama are as good as it gets for politicians.’ Realistic expectations.”
I would have used GW Bush’s clever line, the “soft bigotry of low expectations.”
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
12:40 pm
Jam, are you saying that because a person is a vet no one should be critical of their actions, positions on topics, or misdeeds?
Of course not!
But calling them rapists? And arsonists? And Occutards? And misguided souls? And useful idiots? When they aren’t?
Are you good with that?
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
April 27th, 2012
12:41 pm
JamVet – Stay ignorant, my friends…
April 27th, 2012
10:46 am
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Also, you do realize that YOU spit on veterans when you say what you say about “cons”.
Some “cons” are veterans.
Just like some vets are in OWS.
If ty is spitting on vets for criticizing OWS, YOU are spitting on vets for criticizing “cons”.
268 more days
April 27th, 2012
12:41 pm
Jelly,
One does not ahve to agree with anothers statement, but one must agree they have the right to say it.
Now let see if you have the balls to agree with that one………………………
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
April 27th, 2012
12:44 pm
JamVet – Stay ignorant, my friends…
April 27th, 2012
10:50 am
“no, I appreciate all veterans for their service.”
Sure. Your gratitude is both overwhelming and obvious.
You slander them with all sorts of vile names and malicious lies.
And you are not worthy of shining those combat veterans boots.
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“Cons” are vet as well.
Look at what you say about “cons” and repubs.
How much spit do YOU let fly?
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
12:45 pm
Meat, are you really that childish?
You Republifascists are the ones who want to silence voices you don’t agree with.
I just expose the sheer mendacityy and immorality of yours but I have never tried to silence it…
Oblama
April 27th, 2012
12:46 pm
The Oblama in Chief once again tries to divert our attention with smoke and mirrors. This election is about the economy. jobs and how to reduce this disastrous Fed debt. It’s not about Nancy Pilosi’s recent botox treatments.
JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...
April 27th, 2012
12:47 pm
Black guy, you deflect away from these people here who lie about combat veterans.
It’s OK, it’s what you do…
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
April 27th, 2012
12:47 pm
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2012
11:04 am
I see the compassionate conservatives are back to posting their hate rhetoric about fellow citizens exercizing their constitutional rights.
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Did you say the same thing about the comments directed at the Tea Party rallies?
ragnar danneskjold
April 27th, 2012
12:48 pm
Dear Both @ 12:34, good morning. Ayn Rand does not need my “defense” – unlike leftist thinkers, her writing stands on its own, does not require a cheerleader. She will continue to be read 50 years after people have forgotten the name “Noam Chomsky” (I suppose he is the last leftist theorist standing?)
When I had my then-middle-school sons read “Atlas,” I counseled them that the book was brilliant but not perfect in its thesis, and later explained its ethical limitations in language they could understand. Ryan – and almost any other thinking conservative – probably sees it that way too.
Oblama
April 27th, 2012
12:49 pm
Joe Biden – Always worth a few laughs…. and to think he gets his political advice from Bill Maher…. the dumb leading the dumb.
268 more days
April 27th, 2012
12:51 pm
JamVet – Stay ignorant, my friends…
April 27th, 2012
12:45 pm
Meat, are you really that childish?
Nice dodge, you are like a big mouth bass, all mouth and no action
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
April 27th, 2012
12:54 pm
They BOTH suck
April 27th, 2012
11:35 am
JREB
How is it going? Hope you had a good week
Is a vet a “useful idiot” if he blindly follows right leaning ideology?
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You didn’t ask me, but Yes.
Paul
April 27th, 2012
12:54 pm
ragnar
“Not a bad idea that you posit – there is merit to having a director who would veto spending and/or policy expansion unless the “professionals” within the department could make a compelling argument to a neutral. Even better would be putting in a five-year term limit for any state employee, to eliminate life-tenure.”
But the political appointees are hardly neutral, are they?
As far as 5 year employment limits, good luck telling recruiters to go with that line.
A dad
April 27th, 2012
12:55 pm
How about those recent economic reports the economy isn’t doing as well as the POTUS has been trumpeting in his recent campaigning, oops, er, I mean, well, whatever all his trips in AirForceOnce at $186,000 an hour are these past few weeks.
Does anyone know if JamVet was a beneficiary of DADT?
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
April 27th, 2012
12:58 pm
getalife
April 27th, 2012
11:56 am
Steve,
To proud Independents like me, Clinton’s third term.
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Oblama
April 27th, 2012
12:59 pm
You have it all wrong my friend. Dems are “The Party of Hate”. Led by The Oblama in Chief you are trying to divert our attention from what this coming election is all about. Oblama is “The Great Divider”.. class warfare/ sex warfare/ age warfare/ victim warfare/ race warfare – Oblama fooled some ofthe people last time but not this time. THIS election is about the economy, jobs and decreasing the alarming Fed debt. Question of the day: Are Nancy Pelosi’s botox treatments covered under the Congress Cadillac Healthcare Coverage?
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
April 27th, 2012
1:03 pm
Adam
April 27th, 2012
12:03 pm
TBG: Cap and Trade – not passed
Single payer – opted for the mandate
2 budgets – neither passed
closing getmo – couldn’t convince congress
Dream Act – not passed
Why “failure” as a label for these things?
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Against my better judgement…
If policies that he supported were passed and signed into law can be called “accomplishments, then policies that he supported but did not get passed thus could not sign into law can be called “failures”.
Wait for it…
Wait for it…
Oblama
April 27th, 2012
1:04 pm
Poll: Does Nancy Pelosi’s botox treatments improve her appearance or she still uhhhh unflattering?
They BOTH suck
April 27th, 2012
1:09 pm
TBG
Enjoy your ride tomorrow
Oblama
April 27th, 2012
1:09 pm
To Oblama idolizer: What to one is an accomplishment is to another a failure. Passing a whole bunch of new Fed, big government, tax wasting, budget busting give away programs we can’t pay for is not an accomplishment but a failure to have a clue of what is going on in the real world – out side of D.C. and Hollyweird.
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
April 27th, 2012
1:10 pm
getalife
April 27th, 2012
12:29 pm
Are you cons bringing up hypocrisy?
I don’t think you hypocrites can use that argument.
You have no shame for your hypocrisy.
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stop spitting on vets
Oblama
April 27th, 2012
1:11 pm
Four wasted years and no MORE years for Oblamain Chief!
Oblama
April 27th, 2012
1:13 pm
Joe Biden has a job waiting for him on The Comedy Channel if Oblama is not reelected and Oblama can go back class lawsuits where the big money is.
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
April 27th, 2012
1:15 pm
JamVet – Stay ignorant, my friends…
April 27th, 2012
12:40 pm
Jam, are you saying that because a person is a vet no one should be critical of their actions, positions on topics, or misdeeds?
Of course not!
But calling them rapists? And arsonists? And Occutards? And misguided souls? And useful idiots? When they aren’t?
Are you good with that?
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Nope.
Just like I’m not good with the names that the Tea Party, “cons” and such are called. There are vets, teachers, police, LEO’s, mothers, fathers, grands in those groups as well.
They get called all sorts of things.
You good with that?
Oblama
April 27th, 2012
1:28 pm
Just in : Oblama is asking for an increase to the slush fund that pays for Nancy Pelosi’s botox treatments which are becoming more and more frequent.
Oblama
April 27th, 2012
1:32 pm
Dukuakis redux…… Oblama, dressed in fatigues with an oversized helmet, taking credit for what the Navy Seals risked their lives for. Was Oblama in on the raid? Don’t think so.
I'm a "con" and a vet. STOP SPITTING ON ME!!! (That Black Guy)
April 27th, 2012
1:32 pm
Enter your comments here
Oblama
April 27th, 2012
1:36 pm
Oblama lemmings please report to the cliff overlooking the Fed debt. sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Oblama
April 27th, 2012
1:39 pm
Is it illegal now to have an opinion different from the Dems? No but it’s guaranteed to bring the Secret Service to your door. Cat Scratch Fever!
Adam
April 27th, 2012
1:52 pm
TBG: Touche. It appears that “failure” is in fact an antonym for “accomplishment.”
As a point of note though, how can one reasonably call things that DID pass, but didn’t achieve greater than stellar results, as failures? For example, the stimulus.
Billingeorgia
April 27th, 2012
1:54 pm
Jay – one of the first pieces you have written that tells me, maybe, just maybe, you didn’t just fall off the turnip wagon. Well put, well said, and congrats on your laser like thinking in this case.
Buckhead
April 27th, 2012
2:11 pm
Maybe Toby was appointed to fill in until the Governor proposes a “roll back” of the Perdue DOT reforms/power grab. Just a thought.
Todd Long was not pushed out- Keith Golden the new commissioner needed a dynamo deputy and Todd fit the bill.
GDOT does a great job, despite being 48th per capita on transportation spending our roads are well maintained and the agency is well run with little fat. They are the only agency that services its own debt which accounted for many of the financial improprieties last decade.
I'm a "con" and a vet. STOP SPITTING ON ME!!! (That Black Guy)
April 27th, 2012
3:21 pm
Adam
April 27th, 2012
1:52 pm
TBG: Touche. It appears that “failure” is in fact an antonym for “accomplishment.”
As a point of note though, how can one reasonably call things that DID pass, but didn’t achieve greater than stellar results, as failures? For example, the stimulus.
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When have I done that?
I’m sure you are not asking me to justify what SOMEONE else said, right?
williebkind
April 27th, 2012
3:36 pm
Jay argues that Carr does not have the qualifications suited for the state’s transportation planning director but Carr does have degrees and executive experience. Liberals cite that an economist with phd credentials and teaches at a college has better solutions than a person who has the work experience dealing with economic issues. Now all of a sudden Jay does not Carr because of the lack of experience and wrong type of education. Here we go again! Truth is measured by how it fits a particular agenda.
Dems_R_Idiots
April 27th, 2012
6:28 pm
…and Todd Long did such a wonderful job???
middleground
April 27th, 2012
8:24 pm
Mike Evans the ex-DOT chairmen did very well developing property on new DOT Projects.
All under different company names as he is a lawyer and knows how to work the system.
Do you think anything will change in this one party state mafia run government?
I remember
April 28th, 2012
11:41 am
Why does the city of Atlanta rely on MARTA to certify minority vendors? Do you think its becasue MARTA does a better job or is it to protect themselves when problems emerge like they did this week on minority firms at the Airport?
bluecoat
April 28th, 2012
8:55 pm
Being a corporate raider should prepare one for president.Especially if they want to raid Iraq,Afganistan,any weak country.Mission accomplished.
Willis
April 29th, 2012
7:22 am
Deal doesn’t care what people think about his appointments. He was ethically challenged himself and got elected anyway. He has that all-important (R) which follows his name – nothing else matters in this backward state.
Does anybody know who bought Deal’s house he had for sale? Maybe Carr?
JC
April 29th, 2012
11:13 am
GDOT does a great job, despite being 48th per capita on transportation spending our roads are well maintained and the agency is well run with little fat. They are the only agency that services its own debt which accounted for many of the financial improprieties last decade.
Amen. Well said.
Outer Perimeter
April 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
@bluecoat 8:55 pm
Dang, and I always thought it was being able to sing, dance, and shoot a basketball.
Adam
May 2nd, 2012
2:43 pm
TBG: You indicate calling 5 policies failures, some of which fit my description of passed but not stellar, and yet you claim that you did not.
Apr 27, @ 1:03p is when you did this, in case you’re wondering.
And go ahead and mince my words if you want. Or, you know, ignore it.