Politics, not policy, will drive transportation money

Georgia has a long, unfortunate history of making transportation decisions based on the needs and whims of politicians rather than the data-driven advice of transportation professionals.

With his appointment of Toby Carr as the state’s transportation planning director, the most important transportation job in the state, Gov. Nathan Deal has made it pretty clear that tradition isn’t going to change anytime soon.

Carr may be a fine person. However, he has no training in transportation engineering or planning. His professional background and area of expertise is in politics instead.

According to a short bio provided by the governor’s office, Carr has served as executive director of the state Republican Party. He was also executive director of Deal’s transition team.

In 2008, he was campaign coordinator for the House Republican caucus, and he also worked as a political consultant. He has bachelor degrees in finance and agricultural engineering. His only apparent background in transportation has been his service since January 2011 as Deal’s transportation policy adviser.

According to Deal spokesman Brian Robinson, that makes Carr a good pick for the job.

“The position is the governor’s advocate within the [Department of Transportation], which is governed by a separate board,” Robinson said. “Toby is very well qualified for such a job. He knows what the governor’s priorities are and he can work toward them at the DOT.”

In effect, he’s saying that the governor views the job of transportation planning director as a political rather than a policy job. And under the job description provided by Robinson, Carr is indeed well-qualified to serve as “the governor’s advocate within the DOT.”

However, that’s not how state law describes the job. Under state law, the duties of that position are far more extensive and require far more knowledge and experience in transportation planning that Carr possesses.

Statutorily, the director of transportation planning is charged with “developing the state transportation improvement program and the state-wide strategic transportation plan and coordinating transportation policies, planning, and programs related to design, construction, maintenance, operations, and financing of transportation.”

I don’t think running the state Republican Party prepares you for all that.

In addition, the director is charged with developing a statewide transportation asset management program, an asset improvement program and a local maintenance and improvement grant program. Under the Transportation Investment Act of 2010, he or she also plays a critically important role in the drafting of regional project lists to be funded with the proposed 1-percent regional transportation sales tax.

Carr’s predecessor, Todd Long, left the job a month ago to become deputy transportation commissioner. From the outside, it’s now pretty apparent that he was pushed out to make room for Carr.

And unfortunately, the contrast between the two is significant: Long has a bachelor’s degree and a master’s degree in civil engineering from Georgia Tech, plus almost two decades of experience in transportation and transportation planning. His background and the credibility that it gave him were valuable as he worked with regional officials around the state to draw up project lists for the July T-Splost.

The decision to appoint Carr, on the other hand, doesn’t exactly boost voter confidence that politics won’t dictate how their transportation dollars will be spent. The revenue from that particular tax can be spent only on the projects already approved, but in general it’s not an encouraging sign.

439 comments Add your comment

USinUK

April 27th, 2012
7:02 am

daaaaaaaaaaaaaang … look who’s up early in the morning!!!

Normal Free, Plain and Simple

April 27th, 2012
7:03 am

This is news? Come on Jay, it’s all ready known that the Georgia Government is one of the most corrupt around…
Just face palm and shake your head, then accept the fact that traffic won’t improve and neither will progress…

USinUK

April 27th, 2012
7:03 am

Normal Free, Plain and Simple

April 27th, 2012
7:04 am

Top of the day to you, USinUK!

cloudodust

April 27th, 2012
7:04 am

Rumor has it being a community organizer didn’t quite prepare one for the presidency either but alas, that’s politics…

Joel Edge

April 27th, 2012
7:04 am

Someone in a position that they’re unqualified for, I’m shocked.

USinUK

April 27th, 2012
7:05 am

Maybe Deal was just confused by Carr’s name and thought that was experience enough …

USinUK

April 27th, 2012
7:07 am

Hiya Normal!!! :-) good to see you, my friend

as for Carr, the appointment makes perfect sense for a party who believes in limited government – as “road building” wasn’t mentioned SPECIFICALLY anywhere in the Constitution, it’s obviously not the role of government and should be left in the hands of business.

because they know what’s best.

Jack

April 27th, 2012
7:10 am

I wish I’d said what clouldodust said.

USinUK

April 27th, 2012
7:16 am

only 5 in before the first “but … but … but … OBAMA”

that’s GOTTA be some kind of record …

ByteMe - Political thug

April 27th, 2012
7:17 am

Wow… on a state transportation topic, we have a “but… but… but… Obama!” already in at #5. Who would-a thunk that?

ByteMe - Political thug

April 27th, 2012
7:21 am

None of this topic surprises me. Most of the boards established in this state are filled with flunkies for political payoff. DOT is the “big kahuna” with the most money, so it’s certainly not going to be above the politics of power.

Another reason my T-SPLOST vote is “no”. Until we have a new constitutional structure in this state without the top-down control over everything, very little change can be expected.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

April 27th, 2012
7:21 am

Could it be…

Maybe…

Possibly….

The “C” word?

CRONYISM?

Yes, my dear Republicans this is what CRONYISM looks like.

Smells like it to.

USinUK

April 27th, 2012
7:22 am

ByteMe – you owe me a coke :-D

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

April 27th, 2012
7:24 am

cloudodust

the rumor was wrong, community organization is a great way to prepare for a life of public service.

community…..public service….goes well together

a life of service to ones community

it’s a good thing

and that scares some very silly folks

Doggone/GA

April 27th, 2012
7:26 am

Carr Deal … car deal … the very definition of screw the customer for all you can get?

USinUK

April 27th, 2012
7:27 am

Jack – 7:10 – why?? do you want to look stupid, too???

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

April 27th, 2012
7:30 am

USinUK

if it looks like a duck….

USinUK

April 27th, 2012
7:31 am

oh … DUCK …

I misread that the first time around …

ByteMe - Political thug

April 27th, 2012
7:32 am

ByteMe – you owe me a coke

Yes.

oh … DUCK …

Thank goodness I wasn’t drinking anything when I read that.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

April 27th, 2012
7:40 am

Mr_B

April 27th, 2012
7:41 am

“Wow… on a state transportation topic, we have a “but… but… but… Obama!” already in at #5. Who would-a thunk that?”"
Well, of course Deal was forced by the POTUS to appoint Carr, dontchaknow…

USinUK

April 27th, 2012
7:46 am

dammitall, GG – that made me snort!

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

April 27th, 2012
7:51 am

Here in GA the pollen is so bad, I think snorting is now the state song.

Ayn Rant

April 27th, 2012
7:52 am

The planning horizon for the ol’ boys in Georgia government is the next election. Why oh why, in a land so beset with problems and needs, and so blessed with resources and variety, do the voters of Georgia choose jackasses to manage their public affairs?

Ever since Republican politicians adopted the motto “Government is the problem!”, they have set about diligently to prove it by governing incompetently and sabotaging the efforts of those who attempt to clean up their mess.

stands for decibels

April 27th, 2012
7:52 am

Anyone got any links to anything this Toby Carr guy has done?

(the name is more common than one might think.)

stands for decibels

April 27th, 2012
7:53 am

cloudodust, what was your screen handle here yesterday? just wondering.

Also, did you tell your mommy you wanted to be a mystery meat when you growed up?

JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...

April 27th, 2012
7:53 am

Good morning, Bookmaniacs.

Why would the issue of transportation be different from any other single serious issue facing this state? Georgia’s baby Washingtonites are defined by piggish party politics, rampant, unabashed corruption and bribe taking and perverse personal gain above everything else. And over the past ten years, these anti-women, anti-working class malcontents have demonstrated over and over and over again they are incapable of solving our many problems or even implementing semi-effective, ethical governance. (You Republicans do remember the word ethics, don’t you?)

And it is so systemically entrenched now that these emboldened frauds and cheats and non-conservative conservatives know that their economically liberal, socially retarded Republican base is so spineless and brainwashed that they will not hold them even remotely responsible, for the litany of recent screw ups, much less the appointments of racists and woefully unprepared and likely, incompetent, do-nothing-right bureaucrats like this Mr. Carr.

So, as a state, we continue swirling down the GOP toilet.

Welcome to assbackwards Georgia…

stands for decibels

April 27th, 2012
7:54 am

Any truth to the irresponsible speculation that Deal just wants to sabotage the TSPLOST and is appointing some hack in order to ensure it goes off the rails?

Road Scholar

April 27th, 2012
7:56 am

US and Granny: Stupidity finds comfort in groups; Cloudodust and Jack- get ready, more imbeciles are coming to join you!

Jay, this is the latest insertion of a repub elected official or party member into state government boards and management. Remember the Captain that was placed in charge of the Nat’l Guard who did not have the rank and qualifications required for that position? Why not make of list of Deal’s appointments and their past job.This is the remaining part of the total take-over of state government by the repubs, but don’t worry about them not having the experience and degrees to do a good job. Oh and Kyle, let’s here your excuses/defense of this practice. Oh I did hear that Carr spent a night at a Holiday Inn Express! This guy couldn’t hold Todd Long’s paper his degrees are printed on!

The governor needs an insider???? Who do you think is on the Transportation Board?

Lord Help Us

April 27th, 2012
7:57 am

Deal was a swindler and schemer when he was elected. Did anyone expect him to change?

barking frog

April 27th, 2012
8:00 am

It’s not illegal when the
Gov does it.

Lord Help Us

April 27th, 2012
8:02 am

Luckovich hits it out of the park today…

JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...

April 27th, 2012
8:02 am

Granny, LOVE Bugs and Daffy.

And how ironic that so many of our con friends here, not just limited to rags, also have “pronoun trouble”, huh?

cloudodust and Jack, among several others, are predictable. When confronted with obvious malfeasance and incompetence in our state government, what do they do?

Cut and run.

And fall victim yet again to their permanent Obama Derangement Syndrome.

Focus, boys, focus!

The topic at hand is your beloved neocon infested political party in the state house and their bungling imitation at governing a state with a multitude of worsening problems…

USinUK

April 27th, 2012
8:02 am

LHU – “Deal was a swindler and schemer when he was elected.”

was he also a joker? a smoker? a midnight toker???

Road – “Stupidity finds comfort in groups;”

is that the corollary to misery loves company?

Road Scholar

April 27th, 2012
8:03 am

not here-it should be hear

Not enough coffee yet!

What is interesting is that the appointment was made 2-3 days ago and this is the first article/editorial on it….why the delay? Kyle, I’m still waiting for your gushing revue.

Lord Help Us

April 27th, 2012
8:05 am

‘was he also a joker? a smoker? a midnight toker???’

I’d be more inclined to support him if that part were true…

James Thomas

April 27th, 2012
8:05 am

Hmmmm..I wonder if the same thing can be said about someone who has never served in the military being commander in chief.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

April 27th, 2012
8:05 am

It’s W’s fault!

The Fresh Prince of BIll Ayers

April 27th, 2012
8:06 am

Would you care to discuss the Great Divider’s G.E jobs czar who’s specialty is shipping american jobs over seas qualifications??

Misty Fyed

April 27th, 2012
8:06 am

It’s Nathan Deal….Why does this surprise you?

stands for decibels

April 27th, 2012
8:06 am

Kyle, I’m still waiting for your gushing revue.

I’m not a big one for knocking a guy in other forums when he’s got his own forum where it can be done “to his face” so to speak, but I only happened upon that embarrassing piece from Wed. late yesterday–it’s still up as his latest post–and really all I could do is shake my head.

Road Scholar

April 27th, 2012
8:08 am

US: Yeah! How’s your weather? We have just had March in April…winds, cold, etc. Can’t wait to see what May brings! Probably August! But the greenery here is about 2 months ahead of schedule…I have Oak Leaf hydrangeas blooming now…they usually bloom in late June or early July!

USinUK

April 27th, 2012
8:10 am

dB – did you see Mittens getting called out for being a big, fat liar???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdMLLCXLbbc

JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...

April 27th, 2012
8:12 am

LHU, thanks for the heads up.

Luckovich is a superstar. And can be counted among the best of the best in this country at what he does.

And how hysterical.

He Who Shall Never Again be Mentioned.

How dumb is it that that dysfunctional GOP simply hopes that the vast percentage of American voters are going to just forget about the nightmarish Reign of Error, 2000 – 2008?

Yes, it is true that that is what oftentimes happens in this ADD country.

But when one is talking about George Walker Bush (Oh no, I just mentioned him!) – the worst president in modern, if not all of, American history – it is MUCH harder for people of conscience to just pretend that these fake conservatives, who unleashed massive destruction and death on this nation, are a distant, forgettable and very bad memory.

And George Willard Bush will never see the inside of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, other than as a guest of the President of the United States of America…

Lord Help Us

April 27th, 2012
8:12 am

stands…that link hurt my eyes. It’s looks like the blogger version of the short bus over there…

USinUK

April 27th, 2012
8:12 am

Road – “Yeah! How’s your weather? ”

GAH – we’re on day 10 of not just rain, but PISSING-DOWN rain … on Wednesday, we got an entire month’s worth in one day … you could waterski in some of the standing water in my neighborhood!

The good news is that we WERE in drought – at least this has helped put a dent in it … the weird thing is that we went from on of the warmest Marches on record to cold and wet April … bring back the SUN!!!

Road Scholar

April 27th, 2012
8:12 am

Stands: the post from Kyle was from two days ago; I don’t see a post from yesterday! He must have had too many diapers to change! I could call him out here or off topic on an old post; pick your poison!

Thomas

April 27th, 2012
8:13 am

One fears a drunk person driving.

One simply (now) knows a community organizer is good at one thing- hanging out.

Only in Georgia

April 27th, 2012
8:13 am

Yes, we do have a problem. As long as Nathan Deal is the governor of this state, the new transportation bill probably will NOT pass. This state needs concrete VISION on how to make commuting more feasible. When transportation is viewed from all levels, (air, rail, bus and automobile) politics will not solve the issues. Why vote on passing the SPLOST and seeing the contracts being generated through the “good ole boy network” with no results of relieving the congestion?

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

April 27th, 2012
8:13 am

James Thomas

April 27th, 2012
8:05 am
Hmmmm..I wonder if the same thing can be said about someone who has never served in the military being commander in chief.

Thomas

What same thing?

We have had a number of CIC’s who were not in the military.

We have a very smart system that requires civilian oversight of the military.

So what EXACTLY is YOUR problem?

stands for decibels

April 27th, 2012
8:14 am

see Mittens getting called out for being a big, fat liar?

Well, I have now.

“I do not have lobbyists running my campaign.”

Und zhere hass never been a successful escape from Stalag 13.

gots to produce. Later, all.

Georgia on my mind..

April 27th, 2012
8:15 am

stands for decibels

April 27th, 2012
8:17 am

I don’t see a post from yesterday!

I *saw* it first, yesterday, well after the topic had been hashed out…

/drive-by

Atlas Shrugging

April 27th, 2012
8:18 am

Since when did qualification matter when it comes to government jobs???? If a community organizer can be president I think this Carr may be over qualified.

JohnnyReb

April 27th, 2012
8:18 am

Let’s see, if the position is filled with an engineer s/he will crunch numbers, make projections and give us the outcome. If instead the position is filled with a coordinator, who just happens to have gained his coordinating skills in politics, we might just get some of what the people want. It is after all their money he is spending.

I’ll go with the politician.

Peadawg

April 27th, 2012
8:18 am

Everything’s about politics these days. Sad.

USinUK

April 27th, 2012
8:19 am

Georgie – the sound you hear is Hoagy Carmichael spinning in his grave like a flipping TOP

James Thomas

April 27th, 2012
8:20 am

Granny,

You implied I was being critical of our current Pres. I wasn’t.

My point being, we are arguing that a politician is going to head up something he has no training in. That happens all the time in the Federal Gov’t. I agree with the argument but what grander example is there that a civilian commander in chief. Yes I understand the benefit that brings, but the concept is the same none the less.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

April 27th, 2012
8:20 am

Atlas

I see where Paul Ryan shoved you under the buss the other day…

Those tire tracks look good on you.

Perhaps a community organizer could rally the community and do something about that.

Road Scholar

April 27th, 2012
8:21 am

Johnny Reb: Bless your heart! They already have 15 on the Board! How many non qualified politicians does it take?

carlosgvv

April 27th, 2012
8:21 am

When Deal and Barnes were running for Governor, we of the liberal and intelligent persuasion did our best to warn all you Republicans that putting another Perdue in office wasn’t the smart thing to do. Naturally, you did not listen. And now, you are getting the mediocre Governor you deserve. Unfortunately, you’ve seen to it we have to suffer under him too. When will you ever learn?

TaxPayer

April 27th, 2012
8:21 am

Cronyism LIVES! Has Deal appointed all of his relatives to government positions yet. His son-in-law surely qualifies for a debt management/ banking position given his background.

James Thomas

April 27th, 2012
8:23 am

Seriously people. Pay attention to what happens at the Fed level. When a new president comes in they clean house and appoint politicians and friends of politicians to head significant portions of the gov’t. Career gov’t employees who know the programs inside and out are skipped over for whatever son or daughter of a campaign buddy is due some payback.

If YOU do not vote...then...

April 27th, 2012
8:25 am

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

April 27th, 2012
8:26 am

James Thomas

Point taken.

James Thomas

April 27th, 2012
8:26 am

Carlosgvv

Either you are too young to remember or willingly ignorant. Politics is Politics no matter what party is in power. A large percentage of our current Republicans were Democrats under previous administrations. When the power swung the other way…it became more convenient to put a R behind your name than the D.

Jm

April 27th, 2012
8:26 am

Seems premature to second guess the choice

Sometimes it takes a political person to get things done, not an engineer

Peadawg

April 27th, 2012
8:27 am

carlosgvv
April 27th, 2012
8:21 am

I didn’t vote in that election..neither choice was good. Barnes wasn’t any better.

If YOU do not vote...then...

April 27th, 2012
8:28 am

It does not matter if a large percentage of our current Republicans were Democrats, you all still voted for them. What matters is coming up with SOLUTIONS without wasting the tax payers money and making the politicans RICHER!!

Thomas Heyward Jr.

April 27th, 2012
8:30 am

Without checking, I would bet anyone a dollar to a donut hole that Tony Carr, like Nathan Deal , was once a slimey democrat.
He is now a slimey Republican.
.
And why not change the letter after your name?
It works everytime when you’re dealing with the typical intelligence of a Romney/Obama supporter.

USinUK

April 27th, 2012
8:31 am

Jm – are you saying that we’re premature prognosticators??? ;-)

JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...

April 27th, 2012
8:32 am

Chickenhawks! Please.

Do yourselves a favor and give up on the military experience angle.

Look at the long list of laughable cowards that you’ve tried to nominate in the past two elections!

The only combat hero that your party had, you boys tried your damnedest to swiftboat the RINO.

Admit, the Community Organizing, Uppity Muslim without a Birth Certificate has punked you at your own national security game!

Hysterical.

Stick to what you do best – humiliating women, young people, foreigners and especially the poor and weak…

Jay

April 27th, 2012
8:32 am

James, this job was established under law as a professional policy position, not as a political post. The politics side of the equation is supposed to be handled by the DOT board.

The job title, after all, is director of transportation planning.

(ir)Rational

April 27th, 2012
8:36 am

carlos – I wouldn’t vote for Barnes for personal reasons. I just don’t like the man. At the time, I thought he was no better than Deal, and possibly worse, now I’m not so sure that he wouldn’t have made a better governor. I know one upside would be we would have two completely (hopefully) new candidates in two years.

Jm – I don’t think it is premature to second guess the choice. If the position is defined by law to be someone who actually knows about transportation, then it needs to be someone who actually knows about transportation. Someone who doesn’t have political baggage that needs to be repaid, or political expectations governing their decisions. Transportation is a huge problem with the state, and it needs to change, but I don’t see this as the way to facilitate that change. Then again, I’m not positive that it will matter who is in that position, because I don’t get the sense that the people are very happy with the choices made for the tax that is being pushed. With people not being happy with the proposals, I don’t see the tax passing.

JohnnyReb

April 27th, 2012
8:36 am

Road Scholar

April 27th, 2012
8:21 am

Johnny Reb: Bless your heart! They already have 15 on the Board! How many non qualified politicians does it take?
______________________

Putting in an engineer who constantly fights those politicians means gridlock. As long as they have some of those guys who only look at their shoes when talking to you, it will be OK. The head guy needs to be a coordinator and deal maker.

carlosgvv

April 27th, 2012
8:36 am

James Thomas

It is the Republicans who are making no effort at all to hide their total commitment to the rich. How is it you either cannot or will not see this?

JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...

April 27th, 2012
8:39 am

The ONLY angle you never-served neocons have left regarding the military is continuing to jack up even further, the insane amounts of money pumped into the MIC.

Why?

To further the greatest jobs program in the history of mankind rolling along and to keep your labor union buddies at Lockheed, Boeing, General Dynamcis, Raytheon, et al, happy…

(ir)Rational

April 27th, 2012
8:40 am

In completely unrelated news, how about the BCS finally agreeing to a playoff for college football?

Peadawg

April 27th, 2012
8:42 am

“In completely unrelated news, how about the BCS finally agreeing to a playoff for college football?” – It’s about freakin’ time.

Now we get to argue how to determine the 4 teams. :)

Paul

April 27th, 2012
8:44 am

Morning, Granny Godzilla

Didn’t have anything to contribute on a Georgia issue other that “ignore public needs, address political advantage” so I thought I’d scan the posts and see how long the anti-Obama-ites took.

“Hmmmm..I wonder if the same thing can be said about someone who has never served in the military being commander in chief.”

No need to get excited, all bold and all. There are plenty of people who expend plenty of energy wondering about silly things that most wouldn’t consider worth the effort. You know, like

“hmmmmmm….. I wonder what would happen if I didn’t hit the nail with the hammer but hit my finger instead? hmmmmmmm…..”

Thomas

April 27th, 2012
8:44 am

May/June WH does what it does best- beg for more QE as the job market and gdp continue to fade. Bernake resists as he knows it is a fools game. We spend the summer hearing about how bad Bush was and hope and change will happen given 4 more years and another trillion of stimulus.

(ir)Rational

April 27th, 2012
8:44 am

Yeah, well, maybe we won’t end up having people so pissed at the end of the season, complaining how unfair it is that (insert random team here) got to play for the national championship when (insert other random team here) didn’t. I think this last year, there really was a call for it, but I don’t think the outcome would have been any different.

Paul

April 27th, 2012
8:46 am

JohnnyReb

“If instead the position is filled with a coordinator, who just happens to have gained his coordinating skills in politics, we might just get some of what the people want. It is after all their money he is spending.

I’ll go with the politician.”

LOLOL! Sounds like a perfect defense of our ‘community organizer,” Pres Obama -

Peadawg

April 27th, 2012
8:48 am

“I don’t think the outcome would have been any different.” – I agree. If we had Stanford vs. LSU and Bama vs. Ok State, the out come would have been the same. But after years of saying you can’t play for the title w/out winning your conference…then Bama got in? Change was needed.

JohnnyReb

April 27th, 2012
8:49 am

Paul

April 27th, 2012
8:46 am

JohnnyReb

“If instead the position is filled with a coordinator, who just happens to have gained his coordinating skills in politics, we might just get some of what the people want. It is after all their money he is spending.

I’ll go with the politician.”

LOLOL! Sounds like a perfect defense of our ‘community organizer,” Pres Obama -
_________________

I’ll defend Obama when he’s Right, excuse me, correct. So far, turning the military loose to kill OBL has been about it, but I keep looking!

(ir)Rational

April 27th, 2012
8:49 am

Pea – True dat. You know some coaches in the NFL were upset that they couldn’t pick Bama’s defense as a whole for their draft pick.

USinUK

April 27th, 2012
8:50 am

Paul

April 27th, 2012
8:52 am

JohnnyReb

I know, you’ve said that before. Which is why I posted it as a ’sounds like’ post, as that line of argument applies pretty well to the ‘business experience vs community organizer’ argument of Romney supporters.

JohnnyReb

April 27th, 2012
8:52 am

OK, let’s cut to the chase on this piece. Jay and you Moonbats only have your panties in a wad over this because Republicans are in charge. If the governor was a Democrat, you would be finding ways to defend him against any criticisim – just as you do for the loser in chief.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

April 27th, 2012
8:55 am

Paul

Truth is I closed my “strong” wrong. I meant for it to only be his name.

But you’re right.

(ir)Rational

April 27th, 2012
8:57 am

JohnnyReb – While I suspect you could be at least partially correct, you’re missing the bigger issue. And at the same time, you’re doing the same thing you’re saying they would do, which is reprehensible when you try to push it as a bad thing if others do it. The bigger issue that you’re missing though, is the fact that it is a bad decision. For the reasons why, see my first post, but it is easily enough summed up. He is a career politician, which means he owes way too many people favors and paybacks for getting him to where he is now to be effective at the job. Not to mention the fact that he is severely under-qualified for it. Oh, and it isn’t a political job, it is a technical job, which, once again, makes him the wrong choice.

JohnnyReb

April 27th, 2012
8:57 am

Paul – the new line on Obama is, he is our first “celebrity” president. Sounds like another excuse to me. It’s like poll data that mostly goes against Obama except his approval numbers. How can a person be against everything the guy has done but still like him? Give me a break.

Donovan

April 27th, 2012
8:57 am

And this morning’s sermon to the chior is coming from the man who voted for a president whose only background credentials apply to a Chicago community activist. A president who has no history of managerial skills, private workplace experience, nor business background; somebody like Sen. Al Franken who was nothing but a cheap left wing stand-up comedian who lost his job with Air America. Look who’s throwing stones? What a hypocrite!

Better yet, his following has references to the greatness of a left wing cartoonist DNC boot licker who carries the water for his masters. You clowns are pathetic!

When you liberals continue to support an empty suit community activist for a president who can’t even run on his record, you shouldn’t be throwing stones at a glass house.

By the way…the similarities between Obama and Jimmy Carter are so close in retrospect that it is scarey. You own him and you voted for a one time president. Way to pick ‘em boys and girls.

JamVet - Stay ignorant, my friends...

April 27th, 2012
8:57 am

…but I keep looking!

Baloney.

Jay and you Moonbats only have your panties in a wad over this because Republicans are in charge.

Oscar Meyer.

The facts are apparent. YOU are utterly disinterested in this matter exactly because it is Republicans who are in charge.

Or did I miss your many posts where you have decried the many scandals, examples of cronyism and corruption and other such embarrassments in the state house over the past ten years?

And to quote a line from Caddyshack

Well? We’re waiting!

USinUK

April 27th, 2012
9:00 am

and there’s Donovan … late to the “but … but … but … Obama” party …

Road Scholar

April 27th, 2012
9:01 am

Johnny Reb: Are you saying that Tom Moreland and Hal Rives and the present Commissioner Keith Golden are incompetent because they are engineers?All recent past commissioners except Gena Evans were good to the Department; she was a disaster. They di not “rule”as past politicians; Shackelford was a county administrator and developer, Linnenkohl, while not an engineer, but was “home grown” in the State Aid office, Coleman and Smith (both politicians) were involved in the Senate transportation committee for years. But the things that set them apart…was they listened to the Engineers!

Many processes and analysis at GDOT are well defined, often providing options to address problems…analyzed options. How about the Governor’s Road Improvement Program? This was a political program GDOT was expected to deliver. 4 laning rural state routes, many having less than 15,000 veh a day. Other than providing jobs during construction, how many jobs…permanent jobs… were created? A study done to check on its cost effectiveness? Yeah right! Now you can ride on a 4 lane and maybe see a few vehicles using them! And GDOT is still paying $4-5 hundred million a year in bond debt!

The latest change in the network was done by Gov Perdue before leaving office that had the route of the Fall Line Freeway changed from south Macon to property he owns further south!

We don’t need no stinking Engineers! yeah, right!

TaxPayer

April 27th, 2012
9:02 am

It sounds more like JohnnyReb’s panties are the ones with all the kinks in them.

ty webb

April 27th, 2012
9:02 am

democrats elect unqualified people, republicans appoint them.

(ir)Rational

April 27th, 2012
9:02 am

Road – I’m going to guess (jokingly mostly) that JohnnyReb is a U(sic)GA fan, and therefore can’t see how a nerd from Tech should ever have an important job.