Karl Rove takes on President Cool

Yesterday I posted video of President Obama’s appearance with Jimmy Fallon, suggesting that in a contest for the youth vote, Mitt Romney might find it hard to compete.

So here’s the video response from Karl Rove’s American Crossroads:

As subtle as a 2-by-4.

Of course, Rove knows cool.

– Jay Bookman

365 comments Add your comment

Recon 0311 2533

April 26th, 2012
10:06 pm

“By the way, I demand a retraction”

mick, sorry C.A. you don’t deserve one.

getalife

April 26th, 2012
10:06 pm

del,

Wrong.

Sullivan reports to big sis.

Brosephus™

April 26th, 2012
10:06 pm

I’ll say it one last time so that perhaps it will finally sink in. Its not about the rank and file employees. Its about govt inefficiency which has more to do with the people at the top and the laws of organizational behavior in a bureaucracy than anything else. But yet you keep taking it personally . Get the damn chip off your shoulder.

And just who do you think make up the union members???? The rank and file employees. Ranting about union members has nothing to do with the agency heads. Once you get into a supervisor position, you are no longer covered by collective bargaining. I don’t have a chip on my shoulder other than the one that people put there.

IT’s a case of study what the hell you’re ranting about before going on a tirade. If you wanna rant about bureaucrats and such, then leave the unions out. They don’t belong to the union. They are not bought by the union. Some look out for federal employees, but that’s because their constitutents are fed workers.

Regarding transferring employees, when you’re short-handed everywhere, why hurt yourself in one place just to please people in other places. Have you ever tried to go through security at Hartsfield on a Monday morning before 9am? I’ve seen the security line go from the checkpoint, through the atrium, around the arrival escalator, through the MARTA station, wind through the baggage claim area, and then wrap around the building where the taxis park. You can’t transfer enough people to handle that kind of load and then move them back to other places. If you think things are bad now, imagine how much worse things would get with another 10% fewer workers.

One last thing… USPS delivers to pretty much every single address in this country six days a week regardless of weather. When UPS and FedEx does that, then they should have comparable pay and benefits. Until then, I don’t think they should.

Brosephus™

April 26th, 2012
10:09 pm

I shouldn’t have to tell you about the command chain or maybe I should.

Maybe you should review the command chain. Sullivan might be a direct report to the President. However, Sullivan wasn’t the one creating the two hump beast in Colombia. It was the equivalent of the E-5 that was banging prostitutes. The Agent(s) are NOT a direct report to Obama.

kayaker 71

April 26th, 2012
10:10 pm

President Cool……. Now all he needs is a rusty pimp mobile with gigantic chrome rims, some size 45 pants that he can wear down around the crack in his butt…. then he will certainly be cool. Is that all that this clown has?

Thulsa Doom

April 26th, 2012
10:12 pm

Brocephus,

Can you say bloated, mismanaged, and inefficient? BTW I bought several gifts for my new nieces and mailed them at 9 am Thursday morning from a post office in Gwinnett county to Montgomery which is right at 3 hours away. I mailed it priority mail which is 2-3 days anywhere in America. Being only 3 hours away I figured the package would get there the next day Friday or at the latest Saturday in time for them to open their stuff up before Easter. They didn’t get it tilll Monday AFTER Easter. Technically they did have 3 days to deliiver it to a place 3 hours away. But can you explain the incompetency of dropping it off Thursday morning at 9 am and it not getting there until Monday afternoon to a place only 3 hours away? Lesson learned. Next time I’ll use fedex or UPS or just drive the damn thing over.

“At the same time, decades of contractual promises made to unionized workers, including no-layoff clauses, are increasing the post office’s costs. Labor represents 80 percent of the agency’s expenses, compared with 53 percent at United Parcel Service and 32 percent at FedEx, its two biggest private competitors. Postal workers also receive more generous health benefits than most other federal employees.”

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/postal-service-labor-contracts-forcing-crisis/

getalife

April 26th, 2012
10:15 pm

“Napolitano, who as head of DHS oversees the Secret Service, said her agency is now looking at what standards need to be “tightened” to make sure there isn’t a similar incident in the future.”

She reports to the President not Sullivan.

Recon 0311 2533

April 26th, 2012
10:16 pm

Brosephus, not an accurate reply but I’ll let you ride since you’ve not served in the military and apparently don’t understand the chain of command metric, which our president is bound by as commander- in- chief.

They BOTH suck

April 26th, 2012
10:18 pm

kayaker

He might even do a commercial with his Imam……..

You know since you called him a Muslim

getalife

April 26th, 2012
10:22 pm

Speaking of clowns, kay the racist is here.

barking frog

April 26th, 2012
10:22 pm

Recon
I’d like to know the
command metric for
the commander in chief..

Brosephus™

April 26th, 2012
10:24 pm

Next time I’ll use fedex or UPS or just drive the damn thing over.

That’s your choice. It’s a market decision. When looking at labor costs, why not also break down the full time worker numbers vs part time. UPS pretty much hires people as part time workers. That way, they don’t have to offer anything substantial towards benefits. Most postal workers are full time employees.

For three years, the Postal Service has been asking the Congress to alter the payment schedule of a mandate in a 2006 law that, unlike any other federal agency, requires the Postal Service to prefund retiree health benefits in amounts approximating $5.5 billion. In addition, the Postal Service has asked to gain access to $50 to $75 billion in overpayments it has made to the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS) and a $6.9 billion it has overpaid to the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS).

http://about.usps.com/news/national-releases/2011/pr11_052.htm

There’s always two sides to a story. No other agency has to prefund retirement benefits. I can’t think of a private sector company that does that either. You blame the post office, when the blame should go to the very jackasses you voted to send to DC. Politicians create these messes and make it seem as though it’s the fault of the agency. I’m not saying that every agency runs like a well oiled machine, but things usually get effed up whenever a politician gets actively involved in something.

TaxPayer

April 26th, 2012
10:26 pm

Is that all that this clown has? pondered the President upon hearing the reporter’s mention of Kanye’s name, again.

Recon 0311 2533

April 26th, 2012
10:27 pm

We shall see how this flap with the Secret Service unfolds. If there’s any credibility to this El Salvodore rumor the onus will fall on Obama to take decisive action as it should already with the Columbia incident. We can’t tolerate these types of breakdowns in national security.

Thulsa Doom

April 26th, 2012
10:29 pm

“Regarding transferring employees, when you’re short-handed everywhere, why hurt yourself in one place just to please people in other places”

Jesus H. Christ Bro,

I’m not talking about an hourly rush here and there throughout the day. I’m talking about a seasonal tripling of air passengers that happens every year like clockwork in airports near tourist destinations. And they aren’t smart enough to hire extra help or to transfer a few workers from other airports to the summer airports that have tripled demand for several months. Good God are you going to sit there with a straight face and openly excuse this kind of sheer incompetency?

“One last thing… USPS delivers to pretty much every single address in this country six days a week regardless of weather. When UPS and FedEx does that, then they should have comparable pay and benefits. Until then, I don’t think they should.”

Are you effing serious? Doesn’t the USPS have a monopoly on mail service which if true makes your point irrelevant? And on the same note let me offer my own suggestion. Until the postal services can raise its crappy delivery standards I suggest that they take a huge pay cut and save the taxpayers some money. Several years back there was a complaint by Fedex and UPS about the postal service in its advertising for 1 day service. The reason for the complaint was that the postal service had somethign terrible like a 70% delivery ratio on its 1 day air packages yet they were allowed to advertise it as 1 day guaranteed even with a subpar delivery rate of 70-75% on time delivery. UPS and Fedex were both something like 98% on 1 day delivery. Again. Incompetence and inefficiency by a pi$$ poor govt entity. And then there are people like you who excuse this incompetence.

Brosephus™

April 26th, 2012
10:29 pm

Recon

I understand the chain of command. I know that the head of the Marines is not actively going to deal with an issue coming from an E-5. Likewise, I don’t expect the President to get actively involved in personnel matters of a GS-9/11/13. Sullivan is dealing with the agents. If Sullivan doesn’t do it, then the head of the department is Napolitano. Obama is Napolitano’s boss, per se. Obama has more than enough layers of command between him and the agents to handle the issue. If it gets to the point where Obama has to get involved, then that means Sullivan has failed. As I stated earlier, he seems to be handling things so far, whether you choose to give credit or not.

That’s it for me…. I’m out..

barking frog

April 26th, 2012
10:30 pm

Recon
CiC metric?

They BOTH suck

April 26th, 2012
10:32 pm

Did we ever decide if Bush was on the team that captured Saddam?

“We got him”……….. GWB

We concluded that Obama wasn’t there when OBL was killed……

Recon 0311 2533

April 26th, 2012
10:33 pm

barking frog, think of a president as the leader of our federal government and responsible for our national security and defense as the military’s Commander-in-Chief. Hopefully, that helps to answer your question.

TaxPayer

April 26th, 2012
10:33 pm

I wonder if the Republicans that originally latched onto this prostitution story as the story that they would hang around Obama’s neck like the proverbial albatross still feel the same about it. Funny how things don’t always play out quite like one imagines they will. Too many unknown unknowns.

getalife

April 26th, 2012
10:34 pm

The adults are dealing with the Secret Service and it is not a big f’n deal.

The scandals coming from unlimited donations started with Edwards paying off his mistress but that is nothing compared to what is coming.

The blame goes straight to our supreme court for those scandals.

Brosephus™

April 26th, 2012
10:34 pm

God are you going to sit there with a straight face and openly excuse this kind of sheer incompetency?

Doom

When you have shortages at your everyday places, where in the hell are you going to get people to transfer? What do you think is going on right now along the Southern Border? We’re sending officers from all around to help the groups out down there. Nevermind the fact that many places are short themselves. Do you think the public actually gives a damn about it?? All people want is their instant gratification. They don’t give a sh*t about anything else. You move people from one spot, then you’re short somewhere else and other people are bitching. It’s a lose-lose game. Do you think the fed gov’t is going to be able to hire the numbers necessary to satisfy everybody all the time?? HELL no!!

In reference to the postal service, if it were up to me, I’d make people drive to the post office to get their own mail. That would cut employees significantly, but people would lose that luxury of having their mail come to them. If the taxpayer want’s to save money, that’s the best way I can think of to do it.

Recon 0311 2533

April 26th, 2012
10:35 pm

Brosephus, as a government employee in the TSA can you identify those layers of command between Obama and Sullivan?

TaxPayer

April 26th, 2012
10:37 pm

Poor Bro done got sucked into a Doom wormhole. Reverse full thrusters, Bro. Get Scotty on the line and tell him to give you all she’s got!

barking frog

April 26th, 2012
10:38 pm

Recon
not so much. you were
going to explain the metric
for the CiC. what is it?

They BOTH suck

April 26th, 2012
10:39 pm

Kayaker

From earlier: Is Lettermen and Leno ok with you?

getalife

April 26th, 2012
10:39 pm

Sullivan reports to big sis.

Big sis reports to our President.

That is the chain of command.

del is wrong as usual.

Thulsa Doom

April 26th, 2012
10:42 pm

“When looking at labor costs, why not also break down the full time worker numbers vs part time. UPS pretty much hires people as part time workers. That way, they don’t have to offer anything substantial towards benefits. Most postal workers are full time employees.”

I worked at UPS so I know about part time but the postal service also hires part time during the holidays so they both do it. Also, after you’ve paid your dues at UPS you get promoted to a full time position such as a driver simply by being good at your job. You don’t get promoted just for being around a long time. Perhaps the postal service should start tailoring the way it operates more along the lines of UPS. Their first and foremost service is to provide a service for the taxpayers who pay for it.

Employeeing people and paying them well is secondary to the primary purpose of giving the taxpayer a decent product at a decent price. The only people who think the primary purpose is to be a jobs program are govt employees. That’s not how it works bro.

And secondly the postal service probably has to pre fund its retirement packages because Congress got tired of the postal service constantly losing money and having to come to Congress. How many times over the past decade or 2 have we seen the post office lose money? Hasn’t that happened several times?

getalife

April 26th, 2012
10:43 pm

How many attacks did the TSA miss?

None.

The TSA worked.

Stop attacking them doomy.

Recon 0311 2533

April 26th, 2012
10:44 pm

“not so much. you were
going to explain the metric
for the CiC. what is it?”

barking frog, it’s called management and accountability. The president of the United States is accountable to the people for managing their administrative staff and above all protecting the security interests of the United States. Many of us believe that to be true, however, I can’t speak for your beliefs.

They BOTH suck

April 26th, 2012
10:45 pm

Figured it would be silent on Bush and Saddam

Just one sided when it comes to Obama and OBL

Typical and expected…….. no big deal and no hard feelings

Everyone have a great night and an even better tomorrow

peace

Thulsa Doom

April 26th, 2012
10:45 pm

Taxoayer,

When I see a comment from you it conjures up images of an African dung beetle pushing around a dung turd.

getalife

April 26th, 2012
10:46 pm

del,

Just admit you are wrong.

It will not hurt you.

Thulsa Doom

April 26th, 2012
10:48 pm

Getalife,

Did the TSA stop the shoe bomber Richard Ramirez I think his name was? Um. Nope. The passengets on the plane tackled the guy. The TSA was too busy patting down 4 years olds and granny.

barking frog

April 26th, 2012
10:51 pm

Recon
you are aware of a metric
for the CiC. i would like to
know that metric in case
he should issue an order
that i would not be
required to obey.

Recon 0311 2533

April 26th, 2012
10:52 pm

getalife, if you truly believe that the Director of the Secret Service isn’t accountable to the President of the United States then your head is so far up where the sun never shines that I wouldn’t want to be anywhere close should there be a dislodging attempt.

getalife

April 26th, 2012
10:53 pm

doomy,

Do you know who started the TSA?

They BOTH suck

April 26th, 2012
10:53 pm

Richard Ramirez I think was a serial killer

Richard Reid was the shoe bomber and he boarded a plane in Paris, France

I’m not sure how many shifts the TSA was running in Paris France at the time or how many they run now

getalife

April 26th, 2012
10:54 pm

del,

He is accountable to big sis.

Did you watch the hearings?

She was in the hot seat and dealt with the questions from corrupt congress.

They BOTH suck

April 26th, 2012
10:55 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid_%28shoe_bomber%29

On December 22, 2001, passengers on Flight 63 from Paris, France to Miami, Florida complained of a smoke smell in the cabin shortly after a meal service.

getalife

April 26th, 2012
10:57 pm

del and doomy,

Have y’all ever been right about anything.

Try reading something before you run your mouths.

Thulsa Doom

April 26th, 2012
10:59 pm

“When you have shortages at your everyday places, where in the hell are you going to get people to transfer?”

Isn’t the obvious answer to hire more seasonal people at those airports where demand triples? Or is that too hard for them to figure out? And if they can’t hire enough people and Stossel is right about losing 50% of its people per year then doesn’t that right there tell you something is terribly wrong with the agency. They just need to shut down that agency and privatize the work to contractors like the one at the San Fran airport.

They BOTH suck

April 26th, 2012
11:00 pm

But if the TSA is working at overseas airports……. that is some undercover $hit…… right there

they might have been sleeping on the job or loafing at at a swanky side walk cafe in Paris the day Reid boarded that plane in FRANCE

They BOTH suck

April 26th, 2012
11:00 pm

getalife

April 26th, 2012
11:01 pm

stossel.

No wonder you have no clue.

Too funny.

Turn off fox doomy and read the blogs.

Recon 0311 2533

April 26th, 2012
11:02 pm

barking frog are you saying that you don’t know how to measure the performance of an elected official. A president is an elected official and the most important elected official in our nation. I won’t inadvertently insult you by questioning your knowledge of civics as I’m certain you’re an educated citizen . enjoy the evening.

getalife

April 26th, 2012
11:04 pm

frog,

del thinks admitting he is wrong will hurt him.

Truthophobe?

RB from Gwinnett

April 26th, 2012
11:04 pm

“And then there are people like you who excuse this incompetence.”

More likely he is part of the incompetence.

Recon 0311 2533

April 26th, 2012
11:05 pm

Good night everybody, you too getalife.

getalife

April 26th, 2012
11:07 pm

Good night del.

Towncrier

April 26th, 2012
11:07 pm

“BULLSH*T!!! Pull your little stats out that skew to show what you choose to see. Nevermind the fact that the public sector is generally far more educated than the private sector and many public sector jobs have no private sector counterpart. Just because the private sector worker let themselves get screwed out of benefits and pay over the past 30-40 years does not mean that other people have to bend over and get screwed in the same manner.”

Brosephus, your excessive emotion on this issue makes me suspicious of your claims. Unions are NOT pure as the driven snow, yet you seem bent on defending them tooth and nail. Ever heard of Jimmy Hoffa? Come on…let’s have some honest concessions from you. Geez, man. And yet you talk of non-partisan solutions. I don’t get it.

RB from Gwinnett

April 26th, 2012
11:09 pm

Bro, something you don’t seem to get is what the definition of “short handed” is to the people who are paying these government employees salaries. In nearly every case, if people who work in the private sector were as effective/efficient/productive as those in government work, we would be fired immediatly. You’ll brush this off with some “show proof” or “it’s a myth” crap, but everybody who deals with you knows exactly what the game is. Make up all the stories and excuses you want, but thats the truth and the people paying your fat salaries are sick of it.

barking frog

April 26th, 2012
11:29 pm

Enter your comments here

Thulsa Doom

April 26th, 2012
11:34 pm

Doomy out. One thing is for sure. Me and Brocephus will definitely disagree on a few things. But we will always agree on one thing.

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4 first round draft picks.

barking frog

April 26th, 2012
11:35 pm

Recon
still no metric for the CiC.

independent thinker

April 26th, 2012
11:59 pm

Turd Blossom needs to loosen up and smeell the cofee. His frat boy president sure accomplished a lot in Iraq.. Is that why Georgie boy got those shoes thrown at him and all those Americans died in Iraq? And did Georgie even try to hunt down Ben Laden?

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

April 27th, 2012
7:18 am

Karl Rove?

Who?

Too funny.

Rockwell

April 27th, 2012
8:47 am

Well….he can’t lead, and he is in way over his head in this whole president thingy….but he sure can dance and sing.

Rockwell

April 27th, 2012
8:50 am

“It is hard to sneak around and do what you want,” Michelle Obama said today. “I have done it a couple of times. But you know one fantasy I have, and the Secret Service they keep looking at me because they think I might actually do it, is to walk right out the front door and just keep walking.” —Mooochelle Obama

And that is my fantasy as well….and take your husband with you please.

Michael

April 27th, 2012
9:31 am

Rove is one cool dude, just like Romney. Gotta love those Cadilacs with old men in them. Boehner, coo too, except he talks out of the side of his mouth and always looks like he has gas.

Proud to be me

April 27th, 2012
9:58 am

Obama doesn’t have what it takes to be a President . . . a comedian . . . yes, but President . .. no. He has turned the office into a joke. A BIG JOKE!!

David

April 27th, 2012
10:05 am

This is the old swiftboat tactic. If your opponent has a quality or advantage that your candidate does not have, attack that very advantage as a bad thing.

They decided that Kerry’s war record was an advantage, so they attacked it with lies. Now they are trying to find Obama’s advantage and attack that

gm

April 27th, 2012
11:08 am

Proud to be me

Ask the top 10 former terrorist of the world who are sleeping in there grave thanks to the orders of President Obama is he a joke, their dead so idiots like you can continue to bad mouth the President.

Casual Observer

April 27th, 2012
12:02 pm

Hey gm, you may want to reconsider your last post. From the web this morning;

The memo puts all control in the hands of Admiral McRaven – the “timing, operational decision making and control” are all up to McRaven. So the notion that Obama and his team were walking through every stage of the operation is incorrect. The hero here was McRaven, not Obama. And had the mission gone wrong, McRaven surely would have been thrown under the bus.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/04/26/Get-bin-laden-memo-CYA

MichaeL Grey

April 27th, 2012
2:05 pm

The only people who will buy this is the 80 year old Grandma living in a trailer in OK. The add actually shows how personable Obama is and if he is likable then people will vote for him despite his record. Obama !! Obama !! catchy tune !!