Romney, Obama fighting for the young vote

One of the battlegrounds of the 2012 presidential campaign will be younger voters, as the Associated Press reports:

WASHINGTON — Once thought to be solidly behind President Barack Obama, younger voters burdened by a bleak employment picture, high gas prices and student loan debt are being aggressively wooed by the Democrat and his likely Republican challenger, Mitt Romney.

In 2008, Obama had a 34-point advantage over Republican Sen. John McCain among voters under age 30. He won about two-thirds of the vote in that age group.

But a new Harvard poll suggests the president may face a harder sales job with younger voters this time around. Obama led Romney by 12 points among those ages 18-24, according to the survey. Among those in the 25-29 age group, Obama held a 23-point advantage.

To keep that advantage among young voters, Obama is campaigning to keep interest rates on student loans at their current level. Unless Congress takes action by July, those rates are scheduled to double from 3.4 percent to 6.8 percent. According to Obama, “that’s basically a $1,000 tax hike for more than 7 million students across America.”

However, the House Republican budget makes no provision for such a change, which puts Romney in a bit of a pickle. Should he side with House Republicans, or should he side with college students and recent college graduates? On Monday, he made his choice.

“Particularly with the number of college graduates that can’t find work or that can only find work well beneath their skill level, I fully support the effort to extend the low interest rate on student loans,” Romney told reporters.

Basically, Romney decided that the best way to beat Obama was to copy from him, at least on this issue. Maybe the strategy will work; maybe it won’t. But I suspect it would work at least a little bit better if Romney could also pull off something like this:

– Jay Bookman

779 comments Add your comment

arnold

April 25th, 2012
2:09 pm

Romney would screw up the TV appearance.

arnold

April 25th, 2012
2:10 pm

O.K. Also first.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

April 25th, 2012
2:21 pm

Jay

The Meebo Bar is annoying and the refresh is slower.

Jay

April 25th, 2012
2:23 pm

Kam, you should be able to hid the Meego bar by hitting the blue and gold logo at the far right and then hitting “hide bar”.

USMC

April 25th, 2012
2:24 pm

Midtown Hatecrime Murderer mentally competent to stand trial…
http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/judge-midtown-shooting-suspect-1425737.html

Adam

April 25th, 2012
2:24 pm

No contest: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/hardball/47165359

“Obama is cool. Romney is not cool.” – funniest thing I heard all day yesterday. It also may help explain why Romney trying to get the youth vote is a useless effort.

one and only

April 25th, 2012
2:25 pm

I hit the blue and gold and then hide bar and lo and behold it worked

They BOTH suck

April 25th, 2012
2:26 pm

Bruno and Jam

Left you two a msg downstairs…….

Adam

April 25th, 2012
2:26 pm

Kamchak, Jay: AWESOME! I have been annoyed by that thing for days… thanks for the hint.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

April 25th, 2012
2:26 pm

Jay

Yeah, I do that but the show tab is right next to the scroll down tab and I keep switching the damn thing off and on.

carlosgvv

April 25th, 2012
2:26 pm

Jay, some economists have said the huge amount of student loan debt, and the possible large number of defaults in the not too distant future, will be the next great financial disaster in the US. If this happens, or starts to happen, before the next election, it’s hard to see which party would benefit and which party would suffer.

As for the young vote, Obama has far more ability to connect with them than Romney, who probably reminds too many of them of a cold and distant parent.

Logical Dude

April 25th, 2012
2:27 pm

Jay says: you should be able to hid the Meebo bar (fixed your typo)

But. . . but . .. how do we GET RID OF IT?
(I know the answer. . . “You don’t”. . . but we REALLY dislike it)

270 more days

April 25th, 2012
2:28 pm

No wonder that O’Bama will be hurting as far as the youth vote goes, even in youth, you learn from previious mistakes, like voting for all that “Hope and Change” that was not delivered

Peadawg

April 25th, 2012
2:29 pm

“Basically, Romney decided that the best way to beat Obama was to copy from him”

Isn’t that what the GOP is afraid of? Did Romney reset the etch-a-sketch?

getalife

April 25th, 2012
2:30 pm

willard is losing the young, women, Senior and Latino votes because his party attacked them.

UNCLE SAMANTHA

April 25th, 2012
2:33 pm

JAY
what would the Democratic Senate budget do to student loans?

Jay

April 25th, 2012
2:36 pm

Generation$crewed

April 25th, 2012
2:36 pm

Jay,

I think you hit on a point in the piece in regards to the rate of employment by recent college grads….

If those same voters link that to Obama that is more of a problem for him. Romney can just shift to without a job what does the interest rate matter.

But as one with student loans (stupid reasons didn’t need them, which is an entire different debate about the overuse of loans) it does bite enouch already that I have to pay more than the min. On the slip each month just to stay ahead and actually make gains.

I would suggest reforming the loan process and its regulations. Increasing the amount of work study in replace of loans to lower the amount of defaults that are currently a drag upon the system. Those defaults are one of the drivers of an actual need to raise the interest rate. But that gets back to grads being able to find work

Gale

April 25th, 2012
2:36 pm

They want to court the young voters? Get companies hiring again. Companies are not hiring, fix the economy. It’s the economy, stupid! (Not you.) Stop pandering to special interests and telling voters whatever they want to hear. Just get the economy moving and the rest will sort out.

ty webb

April 25th, 2012
2:38 pm

Actions speak louder than words…with that said, senator Obama didn’t even vote for the “student loan interest bill” while he was a senator. He missed the vote twice…funny jay omitted this fact…Oh, and it’s too bad Jay can’t even explain this as a “protest vote” a la Obama’s debt ceiling hypocrisy.

UNCLE SAMANTHA

April 25th, 2012
2:38 pm

JAY
that is a single bill, i am asking about the Democratic Budget from the Senate…… just like you reference the Republican Budget from the House

Brad Steel

April 25th, 2012
2:39 pm

Romney will certainly win the Hannity Youth vote.

I too vote against the Meebo.

getalife

April 25th, 2012
2:40 pm

Our President is smooth and connects with the American people.

willard is fake, lies and thinks the American people are stupid.

President Obama by 10.

getalife

April 25th, 2012
2:42 pm

Just hide the Meebo bar.

The AJC needs to make money too.

JR

April 25th, 2012
2:42 pm

The question is whether young voters will turn out in the numbers they did in 2008. They may support Obama by a large margin, but will they vote this election? I’m thinking a lot of them will sit on the sidelines (like young voters typically do).

rightwing troll

April 25th, 2012
2:42 pm

” even in youth, you learn from previious mistakes”

And old people do not, hence the rush back to the future and more of W’s disastrous policies.

Brad Steel

April 25th, 2012
2:43 pm

As opposed to futzing with student loans – possibly the main contibutor to runaway college costs inflation – , the charge should be getting tutition inflation under control and getting the publically owned, chartered and subsidized universities back to serving the public at a cost the public can afford.

Romeny – get my vote by showing something better than just me-too pandering.

270 more days

April 25th, 2012
2:44 pm

“How about one of you left wingers tell us what is wrong with “no spending without equal cuts.”

USMC

April 25th, 2012
2:44 pm

It’s Georg… I mean Barak Obama’s Fault! :-)

ty webb

April 25th, 2012
2:45 pm

“and more of W’s disastrous policies.”

like the student loan interest bill that Bush signed into law that obama’s now pushing for extending, although he didn’t even to bother to vote for when he had the opportunity?

mm

April 25th, 2012
2:47 pm

So, Obama has wrapped up:

The female vote.
The under 30 vote.
The minority vote.

That leaves the GOP with the old white man vote and the religious fanatics.

The independant vote is up for grabs, if they don’t fall into one of the above categories.

Adam

April 25th, 2012
2:47 pm

1731 more days to go!

JKL2

April 25th, 2012
2:49 pm

Demwits keep telling me tax cuts are the reason our country is bankrupt. Why are the Demwits trying to bankrupt the country?

Why are these college grads having trouble finding work? The Demwits keep telling me how much better we’re doing under obama and that the economy is rockin’ and rollin’. Which is it?

Adam

April 25th, 2012
2:50 pm

How about one of you left wingers tell us what is wrong with “no spending without equal cuts.”

Fine. We’ll start with the Department of Defense. I assume you mean NEW spending, and do not count the wars as new spending, therefore making them cuttable too.

getalife

April 25th, 2012
2:50 pm

in other words

April 25th, 2012
2:51 pm

If you want to live at home with your parents vote Obama.

If you want a job vote for Romney.

If you want to be an unemployed Bookman blogger vote Obama.

Pretty simple choice.

Adam

April 25th, 2012
2:52 pm

Demwits keep telling me tax cuts are the reason our country is bankrupt.

No, the BUSH tax cuts, enacted in 2001 and 2003, are PART of the reason. T here’s also Medicare Part D and wars. So, unless you have a time machine and can go back and stop those things, the damage is done, and the best we can do now is roll back all three of those things to get to the cuts you desire.

They BOTH suck

April 25th, 2012
2:52 pm

First of all, what is a “dimwit”?

Maybe if you could relax a little on the name calling (like kids do, yes some lefties here do it as well), maybe we can discuss and debate your questions in an intelligent manner….

in other words

April 25th, 2012
2:52 pm

“Obama is cool.”

If that’s all Obama supporters have, he’s done. Then again, what is so cool about eating a dog?

ByteMe

April 25th, 2012
2:53 pm

Thurston Howell III vs. the Professor?

Youngsters always preferred the Professor. No matter when the poll is taken.

(ir)Rational

April 25th, 2012
2:53 pm

Here in lies the problem, in my opinion anyway, with American politics. Too many people expect too much from candidates. Whether you like to think of it that way or not, that’s the way it is. The prevailing theory seems to be that to get the “youth vote,” you have to have try and give something to the college kids to try and entice them to vote for you. Same with every other group of people around. Maybe we should take a hard look at this and we’ll could gain some insight into exactly how the mess we’re in financially started. On this one, as someone who is currently in school, and with a spouse in school, using student loans to pay for both schools, I oppose the plan. But then again, I strongly opposed the plans the government had largely pushing the student loan market out of the private banks also, and that did no good.

JKL2

April 25th, 2012
2:53 pm

-Jay

Can I get a byline from my 1:39 for this?

They BOTH suck

April 25th, 2012
2:54 pm

I apologize, meant to type “demwits”..

Do not want to misquote such an intelligent post such as yours

Doggone/GA

April 25th, 2012
2:54 pm

“Kam, you should be able to hid the Meego bar by hitting the blue and gold logo at the far right and then hitting “hide bar”

Doesn’t work if you can’t save cookies…which I can’t.

UNCLE SAMANTHA

April 25th, 2012
2:55 pm

i prefer to see MaryAnn vs Ginger

(ir)Rational

April 25th, 2012
2:56 pm

UNCLE SAMANTHA – Mud wrestling? Sounds good to me. :)

Gm

April 25th, 2012
2:56 pm

Throw in the Vet votes, Obama has done more for Vets then any President since President Roosevelt, vets who know how to research and not fill with hate such as fake USMC has his support.

According to scum bag Sean Hannity who has been jealous of Obama from day one because he droped out of 3 colleges and Obama did not, states Romney wins big, now after 1 year of ripping all federal programs, two face Mitt is supporting gov programs, the guy will sell his own mother out for a vote.

TaxPayer

April 25th, 2012
2:57 pm

Now That’s Cool. A big standing O for the big O. Mitt’s best chance at a rebuttal would be on the Muppet Show with co-stars Boehner and McConnell and Cantor and Ryan.

JKL2

April 25th, 2012
2:57 pm

adam- No, the BUSH tax cuts, enacted in 2001 and 2003, are PART of the reason. T here’s also Medicare Part D

Given the obama tax cuts and obamacare, I can’t believe you haven’t taken a shot at the man yourself. You must be out of your skull with all that hatred for the man.

UNCLE SAMANTHA

April 25th, 2012
2:58 pm

its settled
Maryann vs Ginger
mudwrestling
in 5 televised “matches”

getalife

April 25th, 2012
2:59 pm

At what point is our President good enough for you?

(ir)Rational

April 25th, 2012
3:00 pm

Then we do Samantha vs. Genie? And then the winner of both go for the title?

Peadawg

April 25th, 2012
3:01 pm

“A big standing O for the big O.” – That’s what she said.

Donovan

April 25th, 2012
3:02 pm

Absolutely pathetic. Pandering to young people who have mush for brains at their age is just another playbook tactic of the Democrat Party. Unfortunately Mitt must fall in lest he be portrayed as cold and uncaring. Oh, wait…you people already have started that rumor.

Ask these youngsters who Obama is and what are his principles and they have no clue just like they had no clue in 2008. These kids only stand for free hand outs, free lunches, and free rent at home with mom and dad;kind of like the Occupy Movement losers.

Jimmy Fallon and all the other liberal hacks won’t help your community organzer from Chicago thugland win another term. Not even with the help of ACORN, SEIU, or Hollywood.

I just love the hypocrisy of the Democrat Party which was responsible in 2007 for voting for the student loan interest sliding scale, but now wants to look like Santa Claus to students. Disgusting!

By the way…today the Supremes argue the immigration case of Arizona. Since you Democrats expect to lose the case, your boy Chuck Shumer wants to legislate a bill to override a favorable decision by legislating a bill so as states cannot fight illegal immigration. Low class! You people don’t care about this country. You people are only concerned about growing Democrat votes. Unbelievable!

JKL2

April 25th, 2012
3:02 pm

they both- What’s a “Demwit”

A Demwit is a proud card carrying member of the Democrat National Party. Sheeple who blindly follow our president and other high ranking government officials who have (D) after their name.

ByteMe

April 25th, 2012
3:03 pm

its settled
Maryann vs Ginger
mudwrestling
in 5 televised “matches”

Better than the “debates” will be.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

April 25th, 2012
3:03 pm

i prefer to see MaryAnn vs Ginger

I prefer to see Chelsea vs. Real Madrid.

M.A.R.E. - Meebo Abuse Resistance Education

April 25th, 2012
3:04 pm

The meebo toolbar steals browser space and slows performance. If you’re willing to deploy a blunt-force fix, and you use Firefox. get the Adblock Plus or Adblock Lite extensions and add this line to the filter:

||*meebo.com/*

I hate to block ads on a useful (and otherwise free) ad-supported site like ajc.com, but the meebo bar is instrusive and rude.

Peadawg

April 25th, 2012
3:04 pm

“A Demwit is a proud card carrying member of the Democrat National Party. Sheeple who blindly follow our president and other high ranking government officials who have (D) after their name.”

JKL2, just curious…what do you someone who blindly follow high ranking gov’t officials who have (R) after their name?

ByteMe

April 25th, 2012
3:06 pm

JKL2, just curious…what do you someone who blindly follow high ranking gov’t officials who have (R) after their name?

So much great snark, so little time….

getalife

April 25th, 2012
3:06 pm

And Donovan attacks the young Americans.

Typical con .

JKL2

April 25th, 2012
3:08 pm

getalife- At what point is our President good enough for you?

As soon as he resigns or is voted out in November.

TaxPayer

April 25th, 2012
3:08 pm

JKL2, just curious…what do you someone who blindly follow high ranking gov’t officials who have (R) after their name?

Brown noser.

UNCLE SAMANTHA

April 25th, 2012
3:09 pm

(ir)Rational

i am bewitched at those dream match ups

Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

April 25th, 2012
3:10 pm

Obama should put all those graduating seniors to work – reinstate the draft. Let’s go bomb a country….I’d like to annex Canada.

TaxPayer

April 25th, 2012
3:10 pm

I see the Republicans are pushing again to cut those federal government pensions.

(ir)Rational

April 25th, 2012
3:10 pm

Kam – Yeah, I prefer to see Chelsea finally get beaten by a team I like, so I’m going for Bayern. ;)

Common Sense

April 25th, 2012
3:10 pm

I thought more education was the answer to jobs? Yet we have record student loan debt and no job prospects.

At what point will you admit this just isn’t working?

getalife

April 25th, 2012
3:11 pm

If you wonder why you cons are marginalized by other Americans, read don’s melt down @3:02pm.

Doggone/GA

April 25th, 2012
3:11 pm

“||*meebo.com/*”

On IE I put http://*.meebo.com on the Restricted Sites and when I refreshed the screen it wasn’t there anymore

Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

April 25th, 2012
3:12 pm

And an Idiot is someone who follows people with an (Fox) on their paycheck.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

April 25th, 2012
3:12 pm

(ir)Rational

Lio Messi awesomely missed that PK yesterday.

JKL2

April 25th, 2012
3:14 pm

peadawg- JKL2, just curious…what do you someone who blindly follow high ranking gov’t officials who have (R) after their name?

Almost a coherent sentence, but I’ll follow your logic. I don’t know any, so I’ll let you know after I meet them. You might want to ask getalife since he loves calling people names. I’m sure he’s got a few you can use.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

April 25th, 2012
3:15 pm

Pandering to young people who have mush for brains

LOL! Don’t listen to the Fallon guy, listen to Donovan, ya mush-brained idjits!

getalife

April 25th, 2012
3:15 pm

“As soon as he resigns or is voted out in November.”

Try to be a better loser this time.

willard will lose.

Fly on the Wall

April 25th, 2012
3:16 pm

If getalife thinks Don had a meltdown, he needs to head back to school.

ByteMe

April 25th, 2012
3:16 pm

I don’t know any, so I’ll let you know after I meet them.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhhahahahahahahahahahahaha

aaaahhhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Seriously, Dude. Too funny.

Aquagirl

April 25th, 2012
3:18 pm

read don’s melt down @3:02pm.

Free hand outs, Chicago thugland, ACORN…..That boy almost filled the whole Con Bingo card by himself.

(ir)Rational

April 25th, 2012
3:18 pm

Kam – To paraphrase you, IDONTWANNATALKABOUTIT.

Peadawg

April 25th, 2012
3:18 pm

“I don’t know any, so I’ll let you know after I meet them.” –

*stop laughing so hard*

Here’s a hint. Look in the mirror. Or talk to Jm. Or Thulsa Doom.

There’s a start.

Adam

April 25th, 2012
3:18 pm

JKL2: Given the obama tax cuts and obamacare, I can’t believe you haven’t taken a shot at the man yourself. You must be out of your skull with all that hatred for the man

Sure, Obama added to the debt. Total amount for Obama policies, including the extension of the tax cuts: $1.93T. Total amount for Bush, including everything he did: $5.1T. Even if you extrapolate that out and include no cuts in your analysis (like the automatic ones set to occur) his total amount will be less than $4T for two terms.

JKL2

April 25th, 2012
3:20 pm

-And an Idiot is someone who follows people with an (Fox) on their paycheck

Who needs truth when we have DNC talking points/propoganda to listen to…

Logical Dude

April 25th, 2012
3:22 pm

Donovan: young people who have mush for brains at their age

So, what SHOULD the voting age be?

UNCLE SAMANTHA

April 25th, 2012
3:23 pm

adam lives the world of fuzzy math

the world of clinton and its according to what the definition of is is!

obama debt = 1/2 of actual debt acrrued in his administration

and our math scores compared to the rest of the world slide further downward

JKL2

April 25th, 2012
3:23 pm

getalife- Try to be a better loser this time.

Try to vote based on something other than the skin color.

Too bad you guys threw Hillary under the bus…

Doggone/GA

April 25th, 2012
3:24 pm

“So, what SHOULD the voting age be?”

Easy. Whatever age they are eligible to be drafted and in danger of dying for their country.

Adam

April 25th, 2012
3:24 pm

adam lives the world of fuzzy math

the world of clinton and its according to what the definition of is is!

Or you could look at this helpful chart:

http://chartporn.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/image3.png

mehlman rings twice

April 25th, 2012
3:25 pm

Uncle Samantha @ 2:55 pm:
I don’t know if Marianne (Mrs. Gingrich #2) and Ginger (Herman Cain’s girl) will go for that.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

April 25th, 2012
3:26 pm

(ir)Rational

The Real Madrid – FC Bayern München game is on FX right now.

Real Madrid ——— 2
Bayern München — 1

42nd minute.

Doggone/GA

April 25th, 2012
3:27 pm

“Try to vote based on something other than the skin color”

Yeah, we should have voted by sex instead. Much more exciting.

UNCLE SAMANTHA

April 25th, 2012
3:31 pm

yes adam lives in the world where everything on the internet is true
especially when they come from a site called chartporn
and it caters to your point of view

next he is going to tell us that breitbart and fox post incorrect stats that lean to a republican view

(ir)Rational

April 25th, 2012
3:31 pm

Kam – I’m at work, and unable to partake, but Bayern needs to kick it into gear. We can’t have Ronaldo pretending he is the best. It just isn’t true, and it upsets a lot of people.

My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)

April 25th, 2012
3:32 pm

From downstairs about “NEVER mentioning Bush” and “evil rich”, sorry:

So far, opinion, assumptions, and “reading between the lines” conjecture.

Using that logic, then the “con” are right when they say libs view the rich as “evil”.
I hear from “libs”:

Eat the rich.
They don’t do anything to help others.
They would sell their own mother to make a buck. (that would be pretty evil)
They would sleep with the devil to make a buck. (pretty evil as well)
They want the middle class to starve so they can have more money. (pretty evil)

You get my point. Just like ALL dems/libs DO NOT think the rich are “evil”, ALL repubs/cons do not feel Bush should NEVER be mentioned.

But, if you twist enough, you can make the point that they do.

ByteMe

April 25th, 2012
3:33 pm

yes adam lives in the world where everything on the internet is true
especially when they come from a site called chartporn
and it caters to your point of view

Impuning the source without offering your own data to back up your point of view is lazy.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

April 25th, 2012
3:34 pm

We can’t have Ronaldo pretending he is the best.

But he is the best, at diving.

Just break wind within 5 yards of the boy and he’ll fall over grabbing his ankle.

(ir)Rational

April 25th, 2012
3:36 pm

Kam – Lord ain’t that the truth, although I will say he’s got nothing on the French or Italians. I hate his post score celebration too, it annoys me when he tries to act like he doesn’t have an ego. We all know he is full of sh*t, I mean himself, be proud of yourself when you score, and don’t act like a dweeb.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

April 25th, 2012
3:38 pm

ALL repubs/cons do not feel Bush should NEVER be mentioned.

I haven’t used the word “ALL”, you have.

I’m not gonna defend a position I didn’t take.

I may have been born at night, but it wasn’t last night.

UNCLE SAMANTHA

April 25th, 2012
3:39 pm

byteme

you can make any stat you want based on manipulating data

you can make the argument that more debt was accumulated by the DEMOCRATICALLY controlled Congress of 2007-2010……… the stats will back that up as the worst 2 Congresses in the history of debt for this nation

next you are going to tell me that rich people actually pay the 35% tax bracket when they are in that…………. but then you can start skewing numbers to mix and match income vs earned income or combined earned income with capital gains……..etc.

statistics are manipulated

ByteMe

April 25th, 2012
3:40 pm

you can make any stat you want based on manipulating data

Again, a lazy argument. Either show where the data is manipulated or provide your own data. Don’t just paint with a broad brush and expect us to take it seriously.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

April 25th, 2012
3:41 pm

I hate his post score celebration too, it annoys me…

Meh.

The ones that gets me are the thumb suckers. WTF is that about?