Second Amendment is not an excuse for vigilantes

1st?

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Good one. I was wondering if you would follow up on those good old boys just pertectin themselves from folks and abiding by their rights with their AK-47s.

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And what does their actions have to do with the Second Amendment?

Absolutely nothing.

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“Look, this is the country out here, and we protect our own.”

Can’t wait to see a picture of Canoles.

Glad he and his son were tossed in jail. Now… those police officers need to get a writeup for poor judgment. And have their bullets taken away before they go arresting any more people working on their homes.

But on to the central point of the piece: Keeping and bearing arms is one thing. Having the intelligence and judgment to know what to do with them is something else.

Canoles strikes out.

Brosephus: time for a t-shirt. Pic of Canoles with his AR-15 and the caption “you sure you want this guy living next door?”

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I have some neighbors that remind me of the canoles…

Bet the new neighbors can’t wait to move in now.

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But some folks really do need a firearm.

http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/23/17/man-beaten-mob-critical-condition-ar-3659891/

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Wow look at these old people, I wonder if these were two old white people would they have ran outside and hold a gun at their heads? I wonder would the police have listen to their story if they were older whites ?

To all the idiots and out of touch people who says Al and Jessie are race baiters, this is why, thank God they still are fighting, just once I would like to hear about a white kid get shot the way Martin was killed or a situation where two old white people are taken to jail and held at gun point.

Once this happen you right wing out of touch Americans need to shut up.

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As a result, the couple has been freed. Canoles and his son, on the other hand, have been arrested, charged with aggravated assault, false imprisonment and criminal trespass. They now sit in jail.

“I don’t know what they can charge me with,” Canoles is quoted as saying before the arrest. “This is my Second Amendment right. Look, this is the country out here, and we protect our own.”
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The second amendment does not give you the right to tresspass and imprison people for no reason.

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Look I get why those guys did that, and I don’t quite fathom what they can justifiably be charged with

But people should just call the cops first

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Thanks, JamVet.

Wish I was surprised, but I’m not.

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“But on to the central point of the piece: Keeping and bearing arms is one thing”

The 2nd amendment protects the right to bear arms. It doesn’t give a gun owner the right to point it at another person.

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Of course they can be charged with trespassing

After that it gets murky

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I woulda dumped 3 clips of hollow points on them.

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When I bought my house, they gave me the keys. Just saying……..

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Can’t wait to see a picture of Canoles

It’s up on the AJC-

What a travesty.

Hear a noise run with a gun. We are turning into Mad Max

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Better yet, the Kalonji’s should have been armed and then the situation would have been much better…according to NRA logic…

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Unfortunately, there are far too many of these insecure, ignorant racists, especially here in GA. Worse yet, they are armed, unstable and dangerous. I hope they are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

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Jay, you are right! I fully agree with you (for once). The second amendment is no excuse for vigilante justice. In the context of the Constitution, we have the right to bear arms in order to protect ourselves from a corrupt, power hungry, government. After all, the forefathers gave us the right to bear arms based on their issues with the British government!

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These armed people have rights, Jay, thanks to ALEC and the Republicans and their promotion of the highly profitable stand your ground laws. It’s not their fault that the new neighbors failed to show up with superior fire power. Otherwise, they could have stood their ground too instead of quickly surrendering.

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‘We all know dumb people!’

Dumb people are not nearly as scary as dumb people with guns…

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Jm

I agree with ‘call the cops.”

What I do not understand is your assertion you don’t see what they can be charged with, other than trespassing.

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“Debbi wasserman is a complete idiot

She basically thinks lying is smart

Shows the lack of any morality or lack of any anchor to values in the democrat party”

Jm,

Dontcha know? These are the requisite qualifications for being head of the DNC.

A. Idiot- check
B. Thinks lying is smart- check
C. Lack of morality and values- check

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My thoughts on Debbie Wasserman Schultz are….”I have seen more attractive hairless chihuahuas.” I agree with you post too Thulsa.

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Sinkwich

“Is this a “Repeal the Second Amendment” blog?

Or what?”

It’s ‘or what’

It’s read the second amendment.

Then understand what it means.

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Thlubska @ 2:39,

Thanks for submitting your resume, but I’m sorry I cannot support your bid for DNC Chairperson at this time. Maybe next year!

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Bad judgement by the Canoles? Let’s see – they see two people breaking into a house, call the police and hold them until police arrive. Sounds like neighbors that may be good to have around when you are on vacation.

But of course, race must be dragged into the equation. And so they get the tar and feather treatment from people that must, I don’t know, love home invaders?

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‘Sounds like neighbors that may be good to have around when you are on vacation.’

Sounds more like neighbors a couple cans short of a six pack…

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“they see two people breaking into a house, call the police and hold them until police arrive. ”

They left their property with their guns and at that time they were trespassing,

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gm with the racial rants
. Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo predictable.

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If you ever held your new neighbors at gunpoint cuz they wasn’t one of ‘your own’…you might be a redneck…

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Thulsa Doom

I know the truth soooooooooooooooooooo hurts doesn’t it ?

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Of course instead of drawing down on these old folks and then slapping cuffs on them and hauling them to jail, a simple phone call might’ve been in order. To the selling agent, or the closing attorney, cause lord knows you can’t take the word of “those people”…

The cops the perpetrated this are as stoopid as the canoles, and you idiots defending them.

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The truth is; there is no cure for stupid. This was one step away from somebody getting shot. This moron and his son needs to spend some real time in jail and they never should own a firearm again (Ex-Cons do not have the right to own firearms.) What made this guy think it would be OK to assault his new neighbors? What possible reason could one have to charge over to somebody else’s property and point assault weapons at people and hold them hostage? This guy needs to understand what he should do to help the police and stop with the GI Joe daydreams. To the rest of you morons; DON’T PULL YOUR WEAPON UNTILL YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO WITH IT. WTF

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Jay, the Twenty Second Amendment is not an excuse for vigilantes either… any weapon could have been used.

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“Dumb people that vote are scary too…”

Don’t leave out dumb people that procreate… this was a father/son team…

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“They’re nutballs, but they didn’t hurt anyone?”

No, they just held them hostage until the cops got there.

“Or do you believe in “pre-crime”?”

I agree with the ‘false imprisonment’ charge 100%.

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Most pertinent post of the day? JV @ 2:17.

Its funny but JV points out the AJC article on the 4′11 woman who defended herself against 2 violent robbers by firing back and even hitting one. Quite a story.

Jay instead chose to focus on a confrontation in which no shots were fired and no one was harmed.Typical lib BS. No surprise there.

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Must have been that scary black man.

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“I’m sure the cops had the closing attorney and selling agents numbers right there on speed dial.”

And I’m pretty sure had the obviously threatening old people been allowed to lower their arms they could’ve produced a phone number to someone who could’ve set the record straight… Before having their constitutional rights shat on, they deserved that much… no?

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Seems pretty obvious the police handled this terribly from the initial phone call to their actions on the scene. When the police are that incompetent it’s important to have some conscientious neighbors.

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Senor Birch…I must agree.

The police were dumber than the Canoles…

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“Jay instead chose to focus on a confrontation in which no shots were fired and no one was harmed.”

A free night in jail sounds awesome, no harm no foul.

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Thulsa Dumb,

I’m white. Just thought I’d get that one out of the way. It’s hard to be racist against white folk when you’re white.

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TaxPayer

April 24th, 2012
2:14 pm
Good one. I was wondering if you would follow up on those good old boys just pertectin themselves from folks and abiding by their rights with their AK-47s.
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AR 15’s

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That was exactly the point Paul.

These two saw people breaking into a neighboring house and potentially breaking the law. And they stopped them and called the police. Again, they sound like neighbors that might be good to have around.

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They belong in jail doing something that stupid.

Anyhoo, today they pander for the young vote.

Our President has a huge lead and willard is in trouble early.

Our President is quoting willard’s words.

He listens to President Clinton.

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“They’re nutballs, but they didn’t hurt anyone”

I’m sure these folks have some serious emotional scars now thanks to the nutballs pointing a gun at them.

“I’m sure the cops had the closing attorney and selling agents numbers right there on speed dial.”

Sounds like the cops didn’t bother to listen to the couple in the first place and believed the good ole boys instead.

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Here is the link to the article, with the pictures of all involved, included.

http://www.ajc.com/news/newton-county-neighbors-charged-1424231.html

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AR 15’s

Acknowledged.

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“Being called idiot by a bigot is fine by me”

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Grasshopper

“These two saw people breaking into a neighboring house and potentially breaking the law. ”

I’m still having trouble with your defining anybody making repairs to a door as breaking into a house.

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I know it’s been a while since I lived in Georgia, but did they change the 2nd ammendment to include the right to hold unarmed senior citizens hostage at gunpoint? Wow, I still stand in amazement at Georgias ability to outdo itself again and again.

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gm

April 24th, 2012
2:22 pm
Wow look at these old people, I wonder if these were two old white people would they have ran outside and hold a gun at their heads? I wonder would the police have listen to their story if they were older whites ?

To all the idiots and out of touch people who says Al and Jessie are race baiters, this is why, thank God they still are fighting, just once I would like to hear about a white kid get shot the way Martin was killed or a situation where two old white people are taken to jail and held at gun point.

Once this happen you right wing out of touch Americans need to shut up.
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gm, I honestly could not understand what you are tryig to say. other than the usual racially biased mess you usually post.

I’ll give you the same advice I gave a co-worker that has a habit of saying dumb stuff.

Think about what you want to say, run it through the filter in your mind.
If it makes sense to you.
DON’T say it.

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IMO – I don’t want neighbors who jump to conclusions carrying semi automatic weapons. What happens the next time my friends show up? Shoot them too. A good neighbor watches the house and if something looks suspect they call the police (in this case it wouldn’t have made much difference because they are evidently a pack of jackwagons) noting the description of the individuals, car make and license number.

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RB from Gwinett, that is another right-wing false equivalence. It was an abandoned home. These slimeballs weren’t protecting anybody.

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Grasshopper,

Calling police = good neighbor.
Charging over there with guns drawn = morons.

Self defense does not apply, nor does protecting the life of another. If your violent, drunken neighbor is on the front porch, kicking his wife’s skull in… again…. and you think her life is in danger, then (I think) it’s okay to both call the police AND point your gun at him, demanding he kindly refrain from kicking her bloodied head again until the police and EMTs arrive to assess his right to do so. Even if they were breaking in to an empty house for the unforgivable excuse of sleeping with a roof over their heads that night, charging over there with drawn guns = MORON.

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Well, I reckon if the cops arrest and lock up enough people they’ll sooner or later get the right ones.

I was kinda leaning to the side of the couple trying to get in the place and against the father and son. Then I seen she looks White and he’s . . . one of Those People! It was about that time I come out in favor of 2nd Amenment Rights and the God-given right to blast away with your gun if you see something that looks fishy.

My advise is not to rely on the cops to catch the crooks. They couldn’t catch a cold outside in the middle of a ice storm in February while buck-nekkid. I only hope the libruls don’t pick up this story and use it to try and take our guns away. Anyway, that couple in the picture look like the kinda trash that ought to be in jail even if they never done anything wrong. We don’t put up with that kinda junk up here in my part of Forsyth County. It just burns me up to think my Daddy stood up against Hosea and his gang of thugs back when they tried to come up here, and now look what’s happening.

Have a good p.m. everybody.

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jm,

Like christie told the nets, good riddance.

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Zebra @ 3:16

Thulsa and I do not agree much on political issues and we have had our back and forths………

I would say that there are times imo when Thulsa pushed the limit……

With that said, unless there are things you know about him that have not been presented on this blog, he is not a racist……

You have your right to your opinion, however a racist is not what Thulsa is…………….

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RB from Gwinnett – “If your neighbors saw someone entering YOUR home, would you want them to stop/question them or just call the police and hope they show up soon?”

Or, would you actually call the peoples son, as suggested, to confirm that he was in fact the rightful owner and clear everything up in 5 minutes.Aapparently, that location is the only place in the free world devoid of cell phones, reception and common sense.

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Also the second amendment says arms.

Not guns.

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BMDPD – “We were given the right to bear arms to protect ourselves from a corrupt (British) government.”

Don’t be afraid of the British, they’re our friends now.

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mm – “And Georgians wonder why so many people around the country think the majority in GA are redneck racist hicks.”

Trust me, we don’t have to think it. Folks like the Canoles provide such overwhelming evidence that there can be no doubt.

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Butch Cassidy,

They pretend to be our friends now, but they say ugly things about us behind our backs.

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And Georgians wonder why so many people around the country think the majority in GA are redneck racist hicks.

It really comes down to a lack of education. the lower the education level and the fewer college grads in that state , the more likely its a red state where this sort of thing happens constantly.

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Oooh Oooh, the leftest racism argument again. Here we go! Gotta love it. Whitey is racist so we should let our black youth run wild and beat them up for no reason like the recent events that happened in Wisconsin, Maryland, Iowa, Michigan and don’t forget Chattanooga. That stuff is never publicized, but let some white folks pull a gun on a mixed race couple fooling with a lock on a friggin trailer and call out racism!?!?!?! D@MN you people are stupid.

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This one is so obvious that I’m thinking Jay tossed it out there just to bring the vermin into the light.

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Matti – “They pretend to be our friends now, but they say ugly things about us behind our backs.”

If British soldiers show up at your door attempting to kill you or relieve you of your property, I promise I’ll have your back. But just in case, you may want to put a shout out to BMDPD and the Canoles.:)

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“I don’t know what they can charge me with,” Canoles is quoted as saying before the arrest. “This is my Second Amendment right. Look, this is the country out here, and we protect our own.”

No, this is your obvious clue that you need to learn what the Constitution actually says instead of “thinking” you know what it says. Good thing you didn’t run up on somebody who was armed and put two in your chest for that dumb sh*t.

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They didn’t harm anyone

They’re nutballs, but they didn’t hurt anyone

Let someone point a loaded gun at you and see what kind of harm is done. Especially when you don’t know whether that person has any idea of how to use the damned thing.

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Grasshopper
These two saw people breaking into a neighboring house and potentially breaking the law. And they stopped them and called the police. Again, they sound like neighbors that might be good to have around.

IF they are not law enforcement, they don’t have a right to hold someone at gunpoint. Had they run up on someone like me, they could have very well ended up with a few ventilation holes in their body cavities. If you walk up on my, and I’m on my property, I’m probably gonna have that laser beam on your forehead before you can blink. Those jackasses are lucky they didn’t run up on the wrong people.

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mm,

There was a show on back in the 80s that my son watched – You Can’t Do That on Television – and they had a regular segment called the “Opposites Skit”.

Mr. Blogging Rearward lives that thing!

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This one is so obvious that I’m thinking Jay tossed it out there just to bring the vermin into the light.

And it seems like they came in droves…

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It’s amusing to find that
many do not understand
that many georgians that
own guns are proud to
to be called redneck
racist hicks by each other
but will shoot anyone else
that does.

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But I think it is mostly a civil matter, not a criminal one (other than trespassing and a smattering of other minor offenses)

Good thing you’re not paid to think. Pointing a gun at someone and holding them hostage goes a bit beyond civil shenanigans. False imprisonment is criminal behavior. The “Castle Doctrine” is designed to protect YOUR castle and not the neighborhood.

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(ir) – “If they say they own the house, but can’t prove it, give them a chance to get that proof there.”

I think that opportunity was provided when the couple suggested a quick call to their son to straighten out any “misunderstandings”. For whatever reason the “officers” decided to back up the “Deliverance boys” rather than excercise what we in the real world call “common sense”.

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And Butch, if you are not smart enough to figure out that we were given the right to bear arms under the pretenses of protecting ourselves from a corrupt, power-hungry government, then you too are pretty dim. 2+2 equals 4 my friend.

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You have to view the event in context Paul. These are people that have lived by this foreclosed house for at least seven months, probably much, much longer. They see people they do not know possibly breaking in and they acted upon that. If there had been a locksmith van or Sears truck parked and uniformed servicemen fiddling with the door, they may have reacted differently.

I am just not ready to demonize these two for their actions like so many here are.

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godless heathen©

April 24th, 2012
2:27 pm
When I bought my house, they gave me the keys. Just saying……..
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They had the keys, they were about to change the locks.

When you purchase a foreclosed home, one of the first things that is suggested is to change the locks. If you don’t, the previous occupants (the people who lost the home to foreclosure) will still have access to your house. There have been occasions where they have returned to the property and either vandalized or robbed the new owners.

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Jm – You consider false imprisonment and aggravated assault minor offenses? Neither of which will be hard to prove, by the way. However, I do agree with you, although, from the pictures, the AR-15s might be the only thing they have worth taking.

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philosopher,

It’s working.

But alas, the old couple are still breathing. If they weren’t, then you would have some really happy bloggers here. Especially if he had been wearing a hoodie. After all he was acting “suspicious”.

These Porterdale dipsticks with guns are merely Newton County’s Public Idiots Number One & Two.

Temporarily.

I doubt there is a shortage of them…

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BMDPD – “And Butch, if you are not smart enough to figure out that we were given the right to bear arms under the pretenses of protecting ourselves from a corrupt, power-hungry government, then you too are pretty dim.2+2 equals 4 my friend.”

Thanks for the math lesson. Now, why don’t you wrap yourself up in the flag and go to sleep. You don’t want to be tired for Canoles homecoming jamboree ho down do you?

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The article says this happened at night. Anyone know how late this occurred? Was it still light out or was it dark?

Just wondering.

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Former Black Guy – I would suggest that be the first thing you do no matter what when you buy a new house. You never know who the previous owners gave keys to that they didn’t get back.

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And if the couple had loaded him and his son full of hot lead, they would have been justified!

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Trolls Bane – “The new owners did not posses any documentation proving they could be on the property.”

Not sure how you folks do it down in Georgia, but I’m not accustomed to carting around my mortgage papers with me in the off chance that two brain dead rednecks, accompanied by deputy Enos, will demand my “papers” or else.

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Tommy Maddox

April 24th, 2012
2:21 pm

AJC won’t report on that. They’d rather report on this non-story where no one was hurt.

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Butch – I was meaning that the idiots/police (i.e. the people with guns) should have given them older couple the chance to prove they were there legally. Whether we like it or not, them that’s got the guns makes the rules. Them that don’t, follow the rules. I believe that’s how I was told that particular truth.

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RB from Gwinnett

April 24th, 2012
3:18 pm
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Gwinnetter …..a…l…..l the way….

Why am I not surprised at this post????????

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BMDPD – “Thus, you must be extremely dim.”

This from the man who needs a gun just in case the oppressive British Government might come calling.

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Paul

I saw your and Normal’s suggestion. I’ve been going through my image bank to see what I can come up with.

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I’d venture a guess that these nutjobs wouldn’t have gone over AR 15’s in hand if it the couple had been white

That said, this is unimportant in the grand scheme of things

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Butch, really? Is that the best you have got? I am sorry you can’t figure out what I meant. I will stop trying now. You are too stoopid to grasp the concept.

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The deputy should have to spend the night in jail, for starters.

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Generation

And I still think Jeff Foxworthy’s a pretty funny guy.

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Butch,

I’m not sure how carpetbaggers do it, however if you show up next door in the middle of the night, and I don’t know you, I will assume that you are up to no good.

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Likely the guntoters were
wearing camo hoodies.
many rednecks do these
days…

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Not sure how you folks do it down in Georgia, but I’m not accustomed to carting around my mortgage papers with me in the off chance that two brain dead rednecks, accompanied by deputy Enos, will demand my “papers” or else.

According this AR-15 toting dipstick, it’s his 2nd Amendment right.

And the Newton County Barney Fife’s who arrested the wrong parties might want to see if there are any openings in the Sanford, Florida Police Department.

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Butch 3:56
Call jon lovitz and ask him

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PAULO

So, true…

Butch…

Oh, get real with that New York thingie…I kinda like going there playing tourist and visiting friends and family, but there are plenty of places you couldn’t pay me to go in broad open daylight under armed guard…provided I could find an armed guard willing to chance it…

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After all of the fervor surrounding the Trayvon Martin murder you would think these two bright individuals and the equally intellectually efficient police department would have taken just a moment to follow some good sense rules. Notice I didn’t say common sense because that’s the level of knowledge they did employ.

There are two similarities in the events that link Trayvon Martin and these two people. Stereotyping and the response of law enforcement to the actual criminals. Wonder why?

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It would have been poetic justice if that couple had pulled their guns and killed the Canoles (or whatever).

If “Stand your ground” was ever appropriate , this was it.

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That concept?

Yep.

The Aryan Nation/Waco/Ruby Ridge concept.

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“Shut up or I’ll shoot,” Canoles allegedly told the couple after they tried to explain that their son now owned the modest home sitting on 11 acres. Canoles asked to see the closing paperwork, which the Kalonjis didn’t have.

See…..a bunch of wannabees police, investigators. Somebody should have emptied a clip on them and sorted out the paperwork later.

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“The police told me I did a good job,” said Canoles, 45, who was never questioned that night. He spoke again with deputies on Friday and said he was cleared of any wrongdoing.”

Heads will roll….the cops congratulating them. Idiots.

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Beer Summit !!

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Oscar – But what harm would come from waiting long enough for the son to get there with the paperwork? There were ways to avoid this.

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The GMC

April 24th, 2012
3:55 pm

What about the Police that made the arrest? These people who were breaking
in the house could have been criminals.
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What is wrong with you? These people were not breaking into the house….they own it.

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Oscar – “A little thinking about possible problems can avoid a lot of potential discomfort.”

Yes, I can hear the conversation now. Honey, do have all the documents that we will need in order to show proof of ownership just in case the rednecks from across the way decide to sneak up on us with loaded weapons and demand to see the papers?

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Butch,

The first episodes of the Dukes of Hazard were filmed a few miles up the road.

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Taxpayer – “The first episodes of the Dukes of Hazard were filmed a few miles up the road.”

I knew those guys looked familiar. Had to be either the Dukes of Hazzard or Deliverance. Thanks for clearing that up.

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I’m just glad no one was hurt

Nutjobs…..

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“What worries me more than these guys are the nut jobs that post on here and say if they had been in the position of the old couple they would have started shooting and blown holes in the dad and son. They are worse then the Canoles.”

BS…..if u are on your property and some random folks run up on you with guns, and i can get a good shot, I’m unloading!!

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Calling it like it is-

1. the white guys are probably psychos….I mean, they own AR15’s. NORMAL people would call the police if they thought the house next door was being robbed.

2. if it had been black people holding up black people the AJC probably wouldn’t be reporting on this.

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Butch Cassidy

April 24th, 2012
4:19 pm

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Just trying to hold down medicare and medicaid costs. Budget is in the red.

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JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG

April 24th, 2012
4:18 pm
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Go ahead. and if you kill them you will be facing life without parole.

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josef 4:20

When I was a kid one of my friends liked to walk around singing part of the Merry Minuet:

“The French hate the Germans. The Germans hate the Poles. Italians hate Yugoslavs. South Africans hate the Dutch and I don’t like anybody very much!”

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Butch Cassidy

April 24th, 2012
4:19 pm

What is it the police in Georgia have against elderly people? Didn’t some old lady get killed by the APD during a botched drug raid, and now deputies high fiving private citizens who take the law into their own hands. The elderly population doesn’t need to fear “death panels”, they just need to stay out of Georgia.
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Dude, I don’t think I have EVER read you post something so stupid lol.

Ever hear of squatters and squatters “rights” and BS like that? It’s a pretty sizable problem here.

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Well that was an emoticon fail.

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“Go ahead. and if you kill them you will be facing life without parole.”

And they’d be “pushing up daisies”…. and I’d be #WINNING

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Oscar – You don’t seem to understand how the law works. If you run at me on my property with guns, I’m feeling like my life might be threatened, which gives me the right to end yours. Might not be the best solution, but I can assure you that only one of us is walking away without extra holes, and if I have the opportunity, it won’t be you.

Fred – I understand what josef is saying, I’ve encountered that type of bigotry often (a lot from my boss actually), but I also refer to my family and friends that way. There is a difference between me or you calling our family or friends that in a happy/joking/familiar way, and someone else referring to us that way as if it were a bad thing.

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Fred – “Dude, I don’t think I have EVER read you post something so stupid lol.”

Hey man, I try to make the posts fit the subject matter. Seriously, look at the pictures of the Canoles. Do you think I could post ANYTHING smart about them?

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Next thing you know someone will want you to prove who you are to vote.

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RB from Gwinnett

April 24th, 2012
4:29 pm

The issue is you either want people to get involved when they see things that don’t look right or you don’t. You whiners keep wanting to bash gun toting people who are willing to get involved because it might occasionally go wrong but that’s the only thing keeping thugs from looking around, not seeing any cops nearby, and taking your wallet or purse. This “leave it to the cops” attitude is just plain dumb.
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I ALMOST agree with you RB. Perhaps the case could have been made better had the armed pair NOT pointed their weapons at a couple of old people and threatened to shoot them. Just casually checking on the property and calling the cops AND making sure the potential squatters didn’t leave could have been accomplished without throwing down on the people.

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Paul – That reminds me, have you ever heard “National Brotherhood Day” by Tom Leher? If not, you should look it up, if so, it is funny enough to look up again.

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Jm

And proud of it!

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There is a difference between me or you calling our family or friends that in a happy/joking/familiar way, and someone else referring to us that way as if it were a bad thing.

Sorry, I don’t see it that way. When someone refers to ME as a redneck I smile, thank them, and shake their hand. I don’t give a fat rat’s ass if someone is trying to make it an insult. It’s only an insult if I’m insulted and I’m not.

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No excuse for the boneheaded Canoles.

Maybe they thought they were Alleged house squatters arrested in Atlanta

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Hey man, I try to make the posts fit the subject matter. Seriously, look at the pictures of the Canoles. Do you think I could post ANYTHING smart about them?

Actually when I saw the pictures all I could think was, “Just damn.”

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PAUL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUwbZ9AlSPI

“…but everyone hates the Jews…”

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RB from Gwinnett – “but that’s the only thing keeping thugs from looking around, not seeing any cops nearby, and taking your wallet or purse”

Or, coming on to your propoerty that you rightfully own and holding you hostage for no reason.

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RB from Gwinnett @ 4:29,

You’d ALMOST have a valid point there, if the Canoles were interfering to save someone’s life. Earlier, I posted an example about having a drunk, violent neighbor kicking the *bleep* out of his wife again. I would call the police, (and have), but if it’s happening on the porch, in the yard, or in view of me, and I see that he’s about to kill her, I might interfere with my weapon before the police arrive. Interesting, (but not surprising here in the land of “boot heels belong on a woman’s neck”) that nobody responded to that.

The Canoles were not responding to a threat on anybody’s physical safety.

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If you are scared, buy insurance others buy handguns.

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“I ALMOST agree with you RB. Perhaps the case could have been made better had the armed pair NOT pointed their weapons at a couple of old people and threatened to shoot them. Just casually checking on the property and calling the cops AND making sure the potential squatters didn’t leave could have been accomplished without throwing down on the people.”

Well damn Fred we just may agree on something yet again. I’ve no problem with the 2 of them going over there to ask these 2 folks what they are doing if they’ve never seen them in the neighborhood. Nothing wrong with checking things out. If it was me I woulda just called the cops and stayed inside though. And pointing an AK-47 at someone is a terrifying experience I’m sure. That’s just plain idiotic. Still good theater today for all the anti- gun folks and the race hustlers.

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A what if… Say everything went down like it was, but the people were indeed robbing the house. While tweedle dee and tweedle dumb hold the two at gun point, they don’t see the lookout come up from behind and they both get .40 cal slugs to the cranial vault. What did they accomplish then?

A cleansing of the gene pool. But wait. If that had happened then tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber wouldn’t have been so dumb after all would they? Nope, they would have been dead assed right, with the emphasis on the dead ass………

Read my reply to RB Bro. The two were ALMOST right in what they did……….

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Brosephus

“While tweedle dee and tweedle dumb hold the two at gun point, they don’t see the lookout come up from behind and they both get .40 cal slugs to the cranial vault. What did they accomplish then?”

But that’s not how the Walter Mitty stories end!!!

Wassamatta with you today?!!!?!!!?

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Paul – He did a lot of funny stuff. You might want to spend some time on YouTube checking it out. “New Math” and “MLF Lullaby” and “Elements” are some of my favorites. If you grew up in the 60s or 70s, you’ll probably understand “New Math.”

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… although, if I were to kill a man to save the life of the woman he was trying to kill, (@4:38), I’m certain I’d do hard time for it. This is Georgia, where wimmins jes cain’t be trusted with life and death decisions.

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Paul – “Pollution” is another, can’t believe I forgot that one.

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PAUL, (ir)Rational

My mom was a huge Tom Lehrer fan…kinda interesting some of the things you’re exposed to in the cotton patches of North Mississippi, eh?

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frog

The race of the “couple?” His is fairly obvious, but hers…maybe that was it…

BROSEPHUS

Looking at the house…the hood on wheels?

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josef – Oddly enough, when I took the CD home in college, my parents had never heard of him. It was odd introducing them to something from their “time period” in 2003/2004.

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matti

I think you might be wrong there…chivalry ain’t dead and ya gotta remember he needed killin is a legitimate defense in some parts! Now, of course, once her life was saved, she’d better get back to the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant as G-d intended…

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Jm: ..it’s called being facetious.

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Simple Truths – 4:50

Anyone who understands US history and the English language cannot honestly intrepret it any other way. The conservative Supreme Court members are nothing but lackeys for the Republican Party who are bought and paid for by Big Business which includes the NRA and gun manufacturers. Money for elections and re-elections and profit mean more to these people than the 40,000 Ameircans who lose their lives each year to guns. Only in America.

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Frog 4:46
They might have a good legal case on that one

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I am a firm believer in the Second but it would take a lot more than what these two supposedly saw to make me pull out the guns. This could be two rednecks looking for some reason to shoulder their weapons to make them feel powerful or it could be two people that are very familiar with the crime situation in their area. Personally, I think the prior is accurate. One thing for sure, the lady business owner in Macon sure excercised her 2nd amendment right this past weekend and she is alive for it today. Research it Jay. Of course you probably already know about it but that story wouldn’t play for your liberal friends like this one, would it?

And Obama is out there wooing the college students (on the taxpayers dime) with promises of free degrees. What in the hell does a college degree matter if you graduate and you can’t find a job? Obama is not about job creation. He is about spending taxpayer money for continuance of political power. He will never understand that without one (job creation in the private sector) there is not the other (spending taxpayer money by the government). This guy is in deep trouble and all the liberal fairy dust in the world (provided by media people like Jay) won’t help him. I just sent in my maximum allowable contribution to the Romney campaign. I haven’t yet contributed to the “PACS” but I intend to. Maybe I am throwing it away and maybe I am saving this country. The only reason I bring it up is to remind you libs to do the same for your man Obama. Of course receiving checks, not sending them, is what liberals do best, isn’t it?

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Woodstock Mike,

Damn. That was incredible. Wonder why that didn’t make national news.

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josef – I didn’t realize that. Then again, I can easily understand that considering people don’t always find the same things funny.

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Mad cow!

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josef – The South (and I would assume much of the rest of the country) was a different place back in the day. And with that, I’m out. Y’all have a great evening.

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When I first read this story, I said Oh, Shyte! Not only is this couple going to be realeased and the charges dropped, but the two Holy Canoles are going to be up for some serious charges.

Sure enough, the charges were dropped and the Holy Canoles are in jail.

Friends, no matter how justified or how “right” you think you are, you simply cannot go around pointing rifles at people and holding them against their will until police arrive.

What was a lapse in judgment on the part of the Holy Canoles will likely result in some serious damage to their lives. If they have jobs, they will likely lose them. If they don’t spend time in jail, they will likely have to pay some serious fines.

The next shoe to drop is that this couple’s attorney is going to sue the police/sheriff or whatever they have there for false arrest. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a whopping settlement.

This should be a lesson to everyone. Just call the police. Let them handle it. Unless, of course, someone is trying to break into your house.

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PAUL

“…uniter not a divider…”

Back during the last election in the Vice-Presidential debates, Biden and Palin said the same thing on gay rights…Unmentionable said, “well, ain’t it nice to see them reach agreement across the aisle? Don’t it make you feel special…?”

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Armed nitwits screwing with their neighbors and Newton County’s Keystone Cops, only holds my attention for so long.

The first song on their debut album, and a taste of things to come…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY3ZwMzynjc

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My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)

gm, I honestly could not understand what you are tryig to say. other than the usual racially biased mess you usually

Amazing how a person is racially biased when the facts are in your face, when are you people going to come to grips that the people were sterotyped, the gunman were white, do I have to spell it out.
Once again, show me a case were a older white person had a dam gun pointed at them like this, or where a white kid got shot the same way martin did.

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There will always be people (a very few) who over-step their authority no matter what. Certainly, a call to the police would have been the right thing to do, however, this incident shouldn’t negate the right for people to have and carry guns.

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For those of y’all arguing the Second Amendment, OREP pretty much summed it up the other day.

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DOOM

Do as Brosephus suggested…an interesting one, that….

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Bro,

Yes, I read about Summer Moody the other day when I was on al.com. It was kinda of an interesting story. Is there a point though other than that there will always be idiots with guns? I linked on Woodstock Mike’s link a page earlier on the other big event that happened in Mobile. Don’t ya know this poor guy was wishing the Canoles were his neighbor. Never heard a someone being beaten with paint cans.

http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/23/31/man-beaten-mob-critical-condition-ar-3659891/

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Ah yes, the unarmed teenage girl hit by the “warning shot.” I read that story the other day, although race was not mentioned in the story — only how people seem to think it’s okay to shoot unarmed kids who are not threatening you, if you happen to hear a noise.

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A case of good old “Southern Hospitality”!

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ORANGE

No, a case of what has happened to good, ole Southern hospitality…gone with the north wind that blew through Georgia, imauo….

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David Granger,

Its funny but no one seems to be mentioning the police in this story. How the hell the police can’t figure out or find a way to verify that these 2 people are the new owners is beyond me. If anything they should have been given the benefit of the doubt and been allowed to go home, their id’s written down, and been required to report to the police dept. the next day with proof of ownership or bill of sale or something. I can’t believe the cops held them overnight in jail.

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This week GE CEO Immelt felt the wrath of the class warfare and division that Obama has created and he is desperately promoting for the 2012 campaign. Even though Immelt is (or was) a big buddy of Obama’s and has visited the Obama Whitehouse many, many times as a chief “Economic” advisor these protesters chanted that they wanted Immelt and GE to pay their taxes. GE has benefitted tremendously from Obama’s radical EPA and their rulings in promotion of “Green Energy”. But now, as the desperate entitlement beast that Obama has created starts to consume itself, it is turning on one of its own. I love it. The old saying that is if you lay down with dogs you wake up with fleas is coming home to people such as Immelt. Obama and his house of cards are about to fall down.

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gm

April 24th, 2012
5:25 pm
Amazing how a person is racially biased when the facts are in your face, – YOU ASSumed their motivation. You didn’t get that from the story.

when are you people going to come to grips that the people were sterotyped, – YOU ASSumed their motivation. You didn’t get that from the story.

the gunman were white, do I have to spell it out. – No you don’t have to spell it out. You see race in almost EVERY topic. You include race in almost EVERY post.

Once again, show me a case were a older white person had a dam gun pointed at them like this, or where a white kid got shot the same way martin did. – The story about the woman in Macon is a good example of your selected poutrage. SHE was profiled by those who wanted to rob her. Not a peep from you.

The guy in Baltimore was profiled. Not a peep from you.

The guy in Cleveland who was beat on his porch by people yelling “Justice for Trayvon”. Not a peep from you.

Believe me gm, we Black people do NOT need you or people like you defining racism. And, considering the stereotypes and broadbrush statements you make, we don’t want OR need your help.

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Josef @ 5:51,

Yeah I know. It’s because the rate of crime is such that people are scared and sometime act with no sensible responsibility when confronting something that used to be common but is now seen to be a threat.

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While we all argue about some Doofusses, issues that affect us all continue.

“Senate Democrats will hold firm and reject House Republican demands to include approval of the Keystone oil pipeline in transportation funding legislation, their leader said Tuesday. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Tuesday said he would not in any way help Republicans move Keystone approval across the finish line.”

Lib ilks hate cabon based energy jobs. They hate people who succeed in life. They believe that anyone who has $20 more than they do, it was stolen from them. They see O’bozo as their messiah, even though he’s the biggest job killing president since their hero Jimmy Carter graced us with his presence. They hate business owners, investors, capitalists, and entrepreneurs. O’bozo runs around the world apologizing for America and appeasing our enemies just to “win” the Nobel Prize.

He did however receive a celebrated endorsement of Gorbachev, head USSR commie.

Says a lot.

But let’s deflect to some non- issue.

That’s all the lib ilks have.

Pretty sad but mostly pathetic.

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Is there a point though other than that there will always be idiots with guns?

Yeah, there is a point. Those guys at that fish camp were probably well within the realm of the “Castle Doctrine” laws and/or the “Stand your ground” laws. Their problem, however, is that convicted felons are not allowed to possess guns. There were two different guns being shot, and two of the three have felony convictions from what I’ve read. That means, at least one of those guys was breaking the law.

Tragic as it is, there are still laws that must be abided by. There are always at least two sides to any given incident.

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David Granger

Seeing as though the police were heaping praises on those two knuckleheads, do you honestly think they even stopped to consider that the house had been sold?

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BROSEPHUS

The melanin enhanced don’t live in no manufactured housing…the poe-lice down in Newton read the memos and Jay’s blog even if you don’t…

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I seriously wished more cops were shot and killed. That way, we could see

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Did the system work?

Yes. So all you gun haters out there, put a sock in it.

There was a crime of stupidity committed here, and it’s being dealt with. Nobody got hurt, and it all ends well.

No system guarantees perfection every step of the way. If justice gets done at the end, it’s better than most people can hope for.

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RETRIBUTION

Man/Woman, you’re one sick puppy….

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Thulsa

That was a swipe at the ignoramuses and bigots here who so love to throw out “trailer trash” as a code word for poor whites…

I know plenty of all races, creeds and colors who live in manufactured housing…and it has been a blessing in a land where substandard housing was standard for generations…

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I re-read my 6:11 rant and have concluded, sadly, it only rates a grade of 8 on a 10 point scale.

While it does remarkably well pointing out the multitude of valid criticisms of O’bozo and his lib ilk syncophants, it’s too broad in its scope.

I promise to do better in the future.

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josef,

I hear ya and I feel the same way. I don’t understand the point of the people on here who deride folks who live in mfg housing because that happens to be what they can reasonably afford. And I don’t look down on those black folks near my brother or the white folks over here who live in trailers because its what they can afford. Interestingly one of my broker contacts has an uncle who lives in a double wide. He started out there when he was young and not a dime to his pocket. He is worth 2 million now but still prefers to live in his double wide because its what he knows and is comfortable in. Zhe’s happy and don’t give a damn what people think. I suspect he probably laughs at people struggling to make a mortgage and lexus payment while he sits on his cash in the bank.

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Medicaid is a mess.

Block grant

Take care of kids with Medicaid dollars, not free loaders

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Well, Doomy, unfortunately many here divide America into two groups: victims and victimizers.

Victims live in doublewides, victimizers live in the suburbs. The enlightened live ITP.

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I’m generally anti regulation

But why do drug companies get to run ads? Aren’t doctors supposed to prescribe medicine, not patients?

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Thulsa

I may have told this story before, if I have forgive the repeat. When my sister married my brother in law, it raised some eyebrows along the caste-class lines. Well, he wouldn’t take a dime, worked his ass off and created a good business. They bought 100 acres and put in a 40 acre lake. They were building houses for themselves and the three kids around the lake. While the construction was going on, G. brought in an old run-down trailer to have as a place to have to spend the night or a few days when overseeing things. He had it parked at the entrance. It had no electrical hook up or “facilities.” My sister was the one who took care of the real estate end of their interests. Housing market there in Memphis was not going real well, and when she was contacted by a guy being transferred from Boston and with mother-in-law in tow, B and G’s house and the one their daughter and her husband lived in next door were just right and he was offering a good price. G reminded her that she was about to be homeless.

Well, she sold and of course they put things in storage and lived in a residence hotel.Their “official address” however was the trailer. So, when things were finished and the tribe resettled on the lake, G.. left the trailer at the entrance, gussied it up with a porch on which he put a washing machine, and an old sofa. He put in petunias in painted tires. The whole nine yards. It was there when they had the whoop-te-do for their friends coming to the estate-warming.

B was p’o'd and when the guests wanted to know what was going on, G said whenever B got too uppity, she needed to be reminded that it wasn’t that long ago she was “living” in a trailer without running water and electricity.

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The term “redneck” is just a code word for and used by people who have to find some class of people to feel superior to…

josef–Once again I ask you why you feel justified in labeling people as “Yankees”?? Isn’t your motivation just about the same as those who use the term “redneck”??

Nothing to add to this thread except to call idiocy on those who think a quick call to the son should have cleared things up. Obviously you folks aren’t used to dealing with criminals. Why should you believe someone on the other end of a phone any more than the folks in front of you?? I’m not condoning the overreaction of the neighbors, but the new homebuyers showed poor judgment to enter a property after dark with no paperwork with them. Every locksmith I know would have demanded some proof of ownership first.

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Obviously you folks aren’t used to dealing with criminals. Why should you believe someone on the other end of a phone any more than the folks in front of you??

Ummm, Police have this thing on their hips and in their cars called a radio. At the other end of that radio connection is a dispatcher. That dispatcher has many tools available to research such things. If I’m dealing with someone who I suspect is not 100% above board, there’s all kinds of internet sights that will tell you things that you want to know.

Even if the parents were taken to the station, things could and should have been cleared up without them spending a night in jail. How would you feel if someone in your family spent a night in jail when all that had to be done was a simple phone call to get you to bring paperwork verifying their statement?

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It is pretty clear that Canoles was wrong. It is also clear the police should have done a better job of deciding what to do. However, Canoles is being punished and the Kalonji’s were not harmed. This is not a second amendment right problem any more than armed robbery is a second amendment right problem. This is a common sense problem both for the act, and by the police and by the reportng of it by the media trying to make a big deal out of something really was nothing more than a case of poor judgement. It is simple. People have no right to try to protect property that is not theirs unless they represent the owner or a law enforcement organisation.

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Even if the parents were taken to the station, things could and should have been cleared up without them spending a night in jail. How would you feel if someone in your family spent a night in jail when all that had to be done was a simple phone call to get you to bring paperwork verifying their statement?

Bro–Not defending the police here either. I’m addressing those who think a quick phone call was all that was needed. If the purpose of the call was to bring the paperwork down, then that still would have taken a lot of time. Not all night, but long enough that the new homebuyers still should have been taken down to the station.

Last time I attempted to rent one of my houses, a young couple appeared and gave me the number to the “leasing office” to verify that they were good tenants. And a nice glowing report it was. The only problem was that it was actually a friend of theirs that they had enlisted in their scheme. Don’t know about you, but I’m not trusting anyone at the other end of a phone line.

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Dernit. What’d SFD say?

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Gather bro’s 7:02 answers my 7:08

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It’s interesting, though, that some folks from Up North think the term is derogatory.

josef–For a pretty smart, usually nice person, you have an intentional blind spot when it comes to saying hateful things to folks who were born outside of the South. To your great discredit, I might add. Like Matti, you’re the first to cry foul when someone insults your “tribe”, but seem all too willing to continue the same ugly pattern as soon as the shoe is on the other foot.

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that post was well beyond the pale

your blog, your rules. But IMHO, no Jay.

It wasn’t.

Out of here a while. Crank up that musical comment y’all, won’t you? It’ll make you feel better. Seriously.

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Jm

I’d like to know that myself since SFD is generally one of the more restrained and courteous folks on the blog.

*******

Well, you gotta understand, let them two in and how long will it be before the Grey Panthers come in intimidating folks at the voting booth? Give ‘em an inch and they’ll take a mile…dangerous folks, them Geezers…

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Bruno,

I actually fault the cops more than anybody although everyone has some shared responsibility. The couple was indeed foolish to go there banging on what was a vacant property for months and alarming people and of course not having any documentation. Then you have the overreaction of 2 men deciding that its okay to point AK-47s at people- not cool.

And to me its ridiculous the idea that the cops couldn’t work with these people to let them call someone- the realtor, brother, someone who could get the proper paperwork or documentation to show that they owned the house. They didn’t have to lock up 2 old people that clearly weren’t burglarizing anything.

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Bruno

The only thing I’ll say about the Canoles is that they are lucky they didn’t run up on the wrong people. My beef in this instant is the same as it was in the Sanford incident. Shoddy police work makes us all look bad. It’s bad enough that officers are dying at a faster rate this year than in years past. Those guys on the street don’t need the added pressure of looking completely uncapable of doing the job they’re trained to do. These kinds of incidents make it seem more like the norm than the exception.

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Most of the people reading that article about Granny in Macon would cheer her courage and say “Right on, Granny”!!!, Macon is the 17th most violent city in the US, regardless of population. A person who travels in Macon after dark is a fool to not be armed. Granny proved that is not a bad idea. But for every Granny who survives, there is sadly many more who do not. She just about did not. We can pretend all we want about who is responsible for most of this violence, however we will be called names and called out about why we “always put race into the issue”. It is all about race, my friends, and you who would hide behind some kind of liberal facade pretending that we are “all equal in this regard”, have not a clue about what is really going on in this town. We are 67% black in Macon. We have a 41% graduation rate from high school. This used to be a pretty nice community to live in. What happened?

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Shoot first

Ask questions later

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Kayaker71

Atlanta sucked all the air out of Macon

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The violence vibe?

Over a non-shooting? Ok

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The only thing I’ll say about the Canoles is that they are lucky they didn’t run up on the wrong people.

Bro–Not defending the Canoles here either. Even if their intent was to be a good neighbor, I don’t believe they were in their rights to hold anyone at gun point. My post was intended for some of the “half-the-story” posters here who automatically assumed that the folks attempting to change the locks late at night with no proof of ownership with them were obviously there with good purposes in mind. In my old neighborhood in Lilburn, vacant homes became magnets for criminals. In fact, after my own home was vacant for a short time, it was broken in to and the air conditioner was stolen, costing me a few thousand dollars. I sorta wish the Canoles were living next door for strictly selfish reasons.

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MAMA SAYS

I’m a country fried liberal who happens to be living in the big city and while I agree with a lot of what you’re saying…the bottom line is, good country people (with apologies to Georgia’s greatest, Flannery O’Connor ) would have seen that these folks were Methuselah’s grandparents and offered help…sorry, but THEIRS were not country values…

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I will bet that not one of you liberal bafoons have ever lived in the country

All right all you “liberal bafoons”, fess up. How many of you even know what the country is.

By the way, is a bafoon a forth-removed cousin of a baboon.

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“By the way, is a bafoon a forth-removed cousin of a baboon”

It’s a baffled baboon

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If us country folk is supposed to be taking care of our own, how comes I still has to pay property taxes.

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Its simple………………………..even most Romney/Obama supporters get it.
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NEVER call the police…or any state-sponsored thug.

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“People have no right to try to protect property that is not theirs unless they represent the owner or a law enforcement organisation.”

Bull. Think beyond the context of this incident for just one moment. If you truly believe that please do not move into my neighborhood or into the office next to me.

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“but pointing a weapon went too far.”

It would probably be a safe bet that if they had looked out and seen 2 big, fit, tough looking guys doing the exact same thing they would have stayed safely in their house and called the police from safety.

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“Priceless!”

I’ve been trying to cut WAY down on correcting what are obviously errors made in haste, especially when it’s perfectly clear what meant…but sometimes the temptation is just too much to bear!

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Jay

April 24th, 2012
1:35 pm
“And I’m shocked, shocked I tell you, to hear that gm believes it’s all about race.

Who would have guessed that he would say such a thing?!”

I did a simple typo correction as well as a timestamp correction to express Jay’s earlier outrage over gm’s usual racebaiting.

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@Mama Says:

DannyX

April 24th, 2012
6:21 pm

“But

I will bet that not one of you liberal bafoons have ever lived in the country and that you have no idea what looking out for each other really means.”

Who exactly were the Canoles looking our for dear?
Neighbors they hadn’t seen for at least 7 months?
Protecting the interests of BofA who had foreclosed on the house?

Isn’t equally likely that Homer and his son Gilligan simply saw an opportunity to go play Rambo with live ammunition?

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Actually that’s not true…I’m usually pretty tolerant of people born outside the South (bless their hearts), it’s supercilious and arrogant ones from Up North down here being rude that rile me.

josef–I’ve lived in the South long enough (31 years) to recognize that the term “Yankee” is not an endearing term. In your mind it may be somewhat neutral because it’s essentially a geographical term, but in my mind it would be equivalent to me referring to Brosephus as “that Negro”. On its face a neutral term, but the denigrating intent is pretty clear.

My suggestion to you is that if you run across rude people, which includes anyone who feels justified in insulting their new Southern home, then you identify them as such: rude people. The broad condemnation built into the “Yankee” label doesn’t behoove an otherwise nice person such as yourself.

The only thing worse than being a jerk in my book is to be a jerk and then try to defend it. I’d like to believe that you are better than that.

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@Doggone

your original version:
“when it’s perfectly clear what meant…but sometimes the temptation is just too much to bear!”

corrected version:
“when it’s perfectly clear what was meant…but sometimes the temptation is just too much to bear!”

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Isn’t equally likely that Homer and his son Gilligan simply saw an opportunity to go play Rambo with live ammunition?

But that’s what us country folk do, dontcha know. Why just the other day, I heard this rustling noise out in the woods and the first thing that come to my mind was that there was an old married couple out there scouting out the neighborhood. Thankfully, before I could acquire an appropriately sized arsenal to properly address the perceived danger, the bunny hopped out of the woods and made itself known to me. What a relief it was.

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Mama Says

Like I said I would have gotten my gun, put it my pocket ( wouldn’t take the big one) and walked over and said hello. I would not have pointed my gun at them and I imagine if I talked to them I would have found out who they were. I would have introduced myself and most likely invited them fishing when they got comfortable in the new home. But I would have walked over and made sure they belonged, it’s what you are suppose to do for your neighbor, new or old ones.

I would have no problem with that. But being a stranger isn’t a crime, pointing a gun at someone and detaining them is.

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BRUNO

Oh, please, Girlfriend! Do I get in such a dither when I get called a Reb or a Rebel? Not really, it’s most often said with a gentleness of spirit and, yes, “endearing.”

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BRUNO
@ 7:54

Yep.

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Frog
@ 7:56

I hadn’t thought of that…could be.

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Bruno’s

U must be OTP

Web doesn’t work OTP. Jays blog in particular

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Native–Right now I’m waaaay OTP, about 120 miles.

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Vewy intewesting

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120423143128.htm

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@Thulsa Doom

“Too bad that guy that took the mob beating couldn’t a had the canoles there. 2 AR-15s is exactly what that mob needed to be introduced to.”

Perhaps, but we don’t know 2 things from the story as published:
What the victim said to the kids.
What the kids told the adults he said.

Not saying that anything that was said would justify getting getting beaten senseless by a mob, but if there were threats against the children involved, that might at least offer an explanation.

I don’t think we have the entire story.

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BRUNO

That girlfriend thingie…sometimes you just strike me as a silly queen, thass all…and, hey, from this end of the spectrum, that’s not a bad thing!

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I see a little silhouette of a man……

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Hope they catch every person in that mob. What an absolute disgrace and they are criminals. If he dies, and don’t be so sure he won’t, it might “technically” be called a lynching.

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Vigilantes, huh? We’ve seen no less than four specific attacks on white people by groups of black people. The latest victim in Mobile, AL where one of the perps leaving the scene said “that’s justice for Trayvon!” Where’s the media on those attacks? Where’s Jesse? Al? How about THAT vigilantism? Not a peep.

Chirp, chirp, chirp. Anyway, we all know that the right to own a gun and have the potential to use it to defend your life and your property gets the liberals soiling themselves. But you have to ask something: why do the same liberals that get upset at guns being used in instances like this sit back and say nothing about gun violence in the inner cities when it’s black on black violence? Besides, we’ve seen how well so-called handgun bans work in Chicago and Washington DC. Liberals love to trot out the Wild West vigilante hysteria every time you hear of a story like this. Everything else as mentioned is dead-powdered cannon fodder.

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Jay to your point at 8:08, several people here would apparently be right at home blogging at Stormfront.

josef, re your 7:55, how about traitor? (Big sh*teating grin!)

Droid, indeed. But it’s gonna PO more than a few in the rabid “the government can’t do anything right” gang if it turns out that two scientists from the U.S. Department of Energy’s Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory find this breakthrough…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLpu2UP3rGI

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Oops–Didn’t change out the cut-n-paste content. This goes with my 8:11:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHXqQOwLytg

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It’s almost as if these stories fill a certain need among certain folks. I wonder what that need is.

Probably the same need filled by Libs who only focus on cases in which a Black person is victimized, you being one of those Libs, Jay.

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A vigilant is one who takes the law into his own hands by puinishing a crime. While Jay would like to use the word Vigilante because of its emotional weight, this situation hardly qualifies. Of course what Jay really wants is to abrogate our constitutional rights by eliminating or restricting private gun ownership. He is glad to use an emotional word to further his agenda. Jay, like his buddies Madow and Moore, are pretty cavlier with our rights as well as the language.

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ZamVet

Not a traitor myself, but descended as the Spanish gitanos say, de las cuatro costas from ‘em! I prefer the term “separatist”

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bookman, 8:08,

We cannot help it if you are so naive as to assume that race has nothing to do with crime stats. You cannot be so. You continue to deny the obvious in the name of what?…. some kind of liberal premise that every one of us is cut from the same mold and will perform the same way? I cannot believe that a person of your intelligence….. you have to know better. It is right before your eyes…. every day…. and you still deny it. Liberals in general have their head in the sand. They do not want to believe the obvious. It is mind boggling.

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@ David Granger
re: 5:46

You certainly make a valid point. But as many people have pointed out…some more cogently than others…there’s a racial element (sadly) to this situation as well. And that pretty much influences the way people view it.
Some people want to believe that the Canoles saw a Black couple and just automatically “profiled” them to be thieves trying to break in. And they also believe that the police did the same thing: Black folks trying to break in someobody’s house, so let’s just take ‘em in.
If it happened to me, I’d be pissed…especially if I tried to explain to the sheriff’s deputies what was going on, and they didn’t even bother to check but just hauled me off to jail. Like most Black people, I’ve been in situations where I believe “profiling” was an element, and it is exasperating.
Nobody KNOWS exactly what was going on in the Canoles’ mind. They may well have been racists figuring that these Black folks are up to no good. Or they may well have just figured that…since the house had been vacant for so long…it would be easy pickings for a burglar, and thought they’d be good neighbors and go stop what might well be a break-in, until the police came and straightened things out. (I’m guessing they ARE the ones who called the Sheriff’s Office? That’s a point in their favor, if so.)
As redneck a move as it might be to just grab your guns and go brandishing them at an elderly couple…I do hate that the Canoles are the ones in the most trouble. I agree with you that it seems like the sheriff’s deputies are the ones who should have ended this very quickly and without a lot of people getting ticked off…and CERTAINLY without the Kalonji’s having to spend a night in jail.
I asked my mother her opinion about this, and she read the story. And when she saw the picture of a Black man with what appears to be a White woman, she stated that she wishes the Canoles had shot him. (Like I said, race pretty much influences the way we react to things like this.)

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Droid @ 8:04–Great link. I’ve been putting my hope in nuclear fusion for a while now. Nothing would please me more than for the Ayrabs to start having to eat their nasty petroleum.

But it’s gonna PO more than a few in the rabid “the government can’t do anything right” gang if it turns out that two scientists from the U.S. Department of Energy’s Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory find this breakthrough…

Jam–Is it ever possible for you simply to enjoy human achievement without putting it into some political framework??

BTW–Tix are booked, we’ll be looking for you about 7:55 outside the Variety on Thursday.

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Did they have any Skittles? People don’t like Skittles.

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Jay,

I’ll bite,

The fact is the folks in your profession have access to the facts, you pick what you wish to report. You can play the southern belle routine if you like , who ? Little ole me ?

Both races are killed predominately by people of their on race, you know that.

You also know that although small over all in comparison, amoung inter racial murders, blacks kill whites slightly more than whites kill blacks. The stats are there for print and TV media to report, however you don’t.

More to the point, when the media propagates the myth that blacks are victimized all the time by whites and you fail to provide truth to an already hot topic, whites that know the truth, tend to wonder why responsible adults who have high quality educations don’t correct the slant.

In plan speak, I challenge you to find anyone who truthfully believes that it is safer for anyone to walk through a gated inter city housing project than it is to walk through a gated high brow white suburban community.

If the media would hold everyone to the truth the verbally race problem could improve but as long as your peers fail to do their job the fire will still burn bright.

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Bruno & Fred

You’re talking to somebody who grew up in small town Alabama, so I know what it’s like when neighbors have your back. That said, if they really thought something was going on, I’m pretty damned sure they have a pair of binoculars around somewhere. It would have took all of 5 mins to sit back and watch what they were doing while contacting 911 instead of running over and pulling a Rambo. For the guy to involve his son is even worse.

If I think something’s bad going down, why would I risk my son’s life? For that matter, why would I risk mine, and I’m trained for that kind of stuff?

You DID read the part where this is an 11 acre property didn’t you? It’s not like it was in a down town cul-de-sac………….

And I’m sure there were trees or brush they could have sat behind and watched to see what was going on. Even with all the training I have, I know that sometimes it’s better to be a great witness instead of a potential casualty. From what I know and have seen, I can’t excuse people for jeopardizing their life for material crap. That stuff can be replaced, your life can’t.

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Jamvet 8:12

Funding basic research and development such as this is one of the best things the government can do. Funding uneconomical technology in perpetuity is more questionable.

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“If I think something’s bad going down, why would I risk my son’s life? For that matter, why would I risk mine, and I’m trained for that kind of stuff?”

As I said earlier, chances are if the people at the other house had been 2 big, fit, tough looking guys…they’d have done exactly what you said. if you get my drift…

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Josef 8:25

Never heard of it. Given that description I think I’ll just pass…..

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@Thulsa Doom

Put away the indignation.
I was clear that any alleged threats would not be a justification.
And yes the 20 “thugs” should be brought to justice.

What is not clear is why the adults mobbed up and attacked.
I am having difficulty believing it was a case of “daddy,. daddy ole man Spooner was mean to me”.

I don’t think we have the whole story yet.

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Bruno

April 24th, 2012
7:54 pm

Is anyone else having trouble getting the AJC page or Jay’s blog page to load?? It’s taking up to a few minutes for me. Don’t know if it’s a local ISP problem or a problem with the AJC site.
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It happens to e regularly but I use firefox. I HAVE hoqwever noticed that today it has been particularly bad. When I look to see what the hold up is it says: Waiting for that piece of sht Meebo that the AJC foisted upon you to load………….

Once meebo loads the page loads. That IS if I stay around that long. Meebo is the reason I have been on less frequently…….

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Jam–Is it ever possible for you simply to enjoy human achievement without putting it into some political framework??

Nope. Never. /snarc/

Looking forward to tomorrow evening, budaroo. It should be monstrous…

http://www.greglake.com/index.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBfCzhYbWBk

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Droid, from nuclear power to an uncountable number of pharmaceuticals to the space program to meteorology/climatology to a vast array of other endeavors, Uncle Sam has kicked R&D ass and taken names.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZcYP00b2FI

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If the media would hold everyone to the truth the verbally race problem could improve but as long as your peers fail to do their job the fire will still burn bright.

Unfortunately, Mama, the media is only concerned about the bottom line: money. Race-based stories apparently sell more papers and lead to increased blog counts. So what if it keeps the racial pot stirred up and leads to further violence?? More stories to sell more papers.

You’d think some journalists would have a little integrity…..Only a half-step above attorneys on my own personal Scum Scale.

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Its what’s under your bed.

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Gwinnett man charged with shooting neighbor’s house (AJC)

The man allegedly admitted to police he was in a heated argument with his wife when he grabbed his gun and started shooting.

Sometimes you just got to show that beech who’s boss!

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NATIVE

It’s probably the best you not…I have to keep up with these loonies…I don’t go there because I want to…

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It would have took all of 5 mins to sit back and watch what they were doing while contacting 911 instead of running over and pulling a Rambo. For the guy to involve his son is even worse.

Bro–Once again, I’m not defending the Canoles, the police, or even the new homeowners. I think there were enough missteps all around to implicate everyone involved. I do feel badly for the new homeowners that they were forced to spend the night in jail. I’ve seen the inside of a few police stations in my day, but was never held overnight.

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And here I thought Jay was just trying to keep it real and local with his talk of crime in metro Atlanta. Y’all do know that Newton County is a part of the metro area.

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Some folks here believe that this is some kind of accounting process: How many of us are victim of them, vs how many of them are victim of us? And that is an amoral, foolish and archaic way to think of things. It’s downright bizarre in fact.

No, Jay, what’s truly bizarre is the intentional focus by you and others on inter-racial crime when it only forms a tiny percentage of all crime committed. Care to explain your “bizarre” fascination with inter-racial crime??

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Like I say repeated here, this race baiting is mired in a black white dichotomy. Nobody seems to give a sh*t about the rape statistics among American Indian women by white and black and brown men and THAT makes things like this pale in comparison. But as al Shariff so aptly put it, that’s not of much interest around here…which translates, imauo, into “it doesn’t sell…”

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Oops, stormfront.

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If we can just kill more of them than they kill of us, then, well we’ll have a whole lot of dead people.

Mission accomplished.

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That is exactly why I pack heat (just like “they” do), and will stand my ground (just like “they”) do. The constitution applies to me just as it does to “them”, and I will raise holy hell and use every legal resource available to me to enjoy MY right to it, just like “they” do.

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White powder!

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I believe we’ve lost our way.

Amen to that.

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NATIVE

They make the klan look like the Civitans…

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Improving Chevy Volt Sales Leads GM to Shorten Summer Shutdown

Increasing sales numbers (GM sold 2,289 Volts in March – well over double February’s 1,023-unit total) come at a time when some of the right-wing attacks on the plug-in hybrid appear to have calmed down. LaForest told TPM that his union workers have been confused about these criticisms. “I don’t think Newt or Mitt have said a single negative thing about the Nissan Leaf,” he said. “They’re attacking our car to get at the President. But our car is going to change the way America does business. It’s a breath of fresh air.”

Now this ain’t good. Not if your a Fright-Winger.

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Once meebo loads the page loads. That IS if I stay around that long. Meebo is the reason I have been on less frequently…….

Fred–I’ve noticed that several websites are scanned through while loading the AJC pages, but I’m not knowledgeable enough about computers to know what it all means, other than obvously slowing things down.

BTW–I’ve noticed you agreeing with me a lot lately. You’re not sucking up in a bid to make it into the Blog Brotherhood again, are you?? Still, much nicer than being called a Rushbot. As I explained to one uninformed poster recently, it is I who writes the right-wing talking points for Rush and Sean.

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