Second Amendment is not an excuse for vigilantes
So you’re sitting at home minding your own business and you hear noises from the place next door, which hasn’t been occupied for months.
You look outside and see two people, an older man and woman, at the front of the place, trying to open the door. What do you do?
Bake your new neighbors a pie? Call the police to report strangers next door?
Jean Kalonji and his wife, Angelica, were held at gunpoint by neighbors outside the home their son had just purchased for them.
If you’re Robert Canoles of Porterville, you apparently take it upon yourself to grab your teenaged son, arm him and yourself with AR-15s, then march next door to confront and hold the terrified couple at gunpoint until sheriff deputies arrive.
Read the story by the AJC’s Christian Boone. Once deputies arrived, the older couple were arrested, charged with loitering and prowling and forced to spend the night in jail. Nobody paid much heed to their explanation that their son had just purchased the empty house and that they were changing the locks at the place they planned to make their new home.
But it turned out they were telling the truth.
As a result, the couple has been freed. Canoles and his son, on the other hand, have been arrested, charged with aggravated assault, false imprisonment and criminal trespass. They now sit in jail.
“I don’t know what they can charge me with,” Canoles is quoted as saying before the arrest. “This is my Second Amendment right. Look, this is the country out here, and we protect our own.”
The good news is that this time, nobody got injured or killed, which under the circumstances was a definite possibility. But it also illustrates what can happen when loose talk about “Second Amendment rights” becomes translated in certain minds into a license to become vigilantes.
– Jay Bookman
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JamVet
April 24th, 2012
4:03 pm
That concept?
Yep.
The Aryan Nation/Waco/Ruby Ridge concept.
Oscar
April 24th, 2012
4:03 pm
What worries me more than these guys are the nut jobs that post on here and say if they had been in the position of the old couple they would have started shooting and blown holes in the dad and son. They are worse then the Canoles.
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
April 24th, 2012
4:03 pm
“Shut up or I’ll shoot,” Canoles allegedly told the couple after they tried to explain that their son now owned the modest home sitting on 11 acres. Canoles asked to see the closing paperwork, which the Kalonjis didn’t have.
See…..a bunch of wannabees police, investigators. Somebody should have emptied a clip on them and sorted out the paperwork later.
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
4:04 pm
BMDPD – “Look, just because I told you the pretense in which the second amendment is written is to protect yourself from an overbearing government, that doesn’t mean that I am a paranoid hack that thinks the government is coming to seize my property.”
I’m perfectly familiar with the second amendment. And as to your math references, I hold a BA and MBA in finance backed up by 20 years working in the financial sector. What I can’t figure out is how anyone could even come close to trying to defend what these morons did. The only thing that makes it more pathetic, is that the police just joined in right along. The only thing missing in this story is Boss Hogg and and Sherriff Rosco rolling up in the Caddy before being foiled by the Duke boys.
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
April 24th, 2012
4:06 pm
“The police told me I did a good job,” said Canoles, 45, who was never questioned that night. He spoke again with deputies on Friday and said he was cleared of any wrongdoing.”
Heads will roll….the cops congratulating them. Idiots.
Oscar
April 24th, 2012
4:06 pm
teve – USA (I support “None Of The Above”)
April 24th, 2012
4:03 pm
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Sounds sensidble and something the coupld should have done. A little thinking about possible problems can avoid a lot of potential discomfort. A phone call to the son by the police would not have helped. Can’t show any proof of ownership over the phone.
barking frog
April 24th, 2012
4:06 pm
Beer Summit !!
Generation$crewed
April 24th, 2012
4:08 pm
Paul
April 24th, 2012
3:56 pm
Shhhsh that’s one of those things we keep to ourselves.
Yes I said we including me in i still watch every time I see him on comedy central….. And laughn then get made fun of by my wife and kids.
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
4:09 pm
Oscar – But what harm would come from waiting long enough for the son to get there with the paperwork? There were ways to avoid this.
BMDPD
April 24th, 2012
4:10 pm
Butch, thanks! I never did defend what the morons did. Look back and read my posts. I defended the 2nd amendment and the racism charge. I would have called the cops. Perfect example, if they are breaking in, then
1. They may be armed.
2. If they see me coming around the corner with a gun, then I may get shot.
I would have called the cops.
willie lynch
April 24th, 2012
4:10 pm
The GMC
April 24th, 2012
3:55 pm
What about the Police that made the arrest? These people who were breaking
in the house could have been criminals.
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What is wrong with you? These people were not breaking into the house….they own it.
Brosephus™
April 24th, 2012
4:11 pm
What worries me more than these guys are the nut jobs that post on here and say if they had been in the position of the old couple they would have started shooting and blown holes in the dad and son. They are worse then the Canoles.
If you are on your property and some strange people come at you with guns in a threatening manner, you are within your rights to “Stand your ground” if you perceive their actions as a threat to your life. Based on what I do for a living, anybody coming at me with a gun is perceived as a threat unless they show credentials, have a uniform on, or announce themselves well in advance. If you make any threatening move, then may G*d have mercy on both our souls.
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
4:11 pm
Oscar – “A little thinking about possible problems can avoid a lot of potential discomfort.”
Yes, I can hear the conversation now. Honey, do have all the documents that we will need in order to show proof of ownership just in case the rednecks from across the way decide to sneak up on us with loaded weapons and demand to see the papers?
carlosgvv
April 24th, 2012
4:12 pm
BMDPD – 3:24
The “people” refered to in the 2nd ammendment are ONLY those who compose a militia. In today’s America, that would be the Military, and by extension, the police, The 2nd amendment makes this quite clear. If you cannot understand this, your reading comprehension skills are pretty much zilch.
Unless you are one of these pathetic people who must have a gun as a phallic substitute.
TaxPayer
April 24th, 2012
4:13 pm
Butch,
The first episodes of the Dukes of Hazard were filmed a few miles up the road.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
April 24th, 2012
4:13 pm
Sure glad it wasn’t me checking on those no-’counts at the door. A M-60 is awful heavy to tote around. Firing some rounds off makes one alot lighter.
And hey! There’s good rednecks around—like me, for example.
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
4:14 pm
Taxpayer – “The first episodes of the Dukes of Hazard were filmed a few miles up the road.”
I knew those guys looked familiar. Had to be either the Dukes of Hazzard or Deliverance. Thanks for clearing that up.
PJ
April 24th, 2012
4:15 pm
A couple of points:
1. Why don’t we just have a law that’s called “Shoot 1st and ask question later” then all the gun nuts can be covered and not jailed.
2. Some people have bad hearts and if this was the case it could have turned tragic, you don’t always have to be shot.
3. Sonny is older enough to join the military, why not do that if he wants to protect his nation and neighbors.
Jm
April 24th, 2012
4:16 pm
I’m just glad no one was hurt
Nutjobs…..
Paul
April 24th, 2012
4:16 pm
JamVet
“And the Newton County Barney Fife’s who arrested the wrong parties might want to see if there are any openings in the Sanford, Florida Police Department.”
That is so funny, in a sick kinda way -
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
April 24th, 2012
4:18 pm
“What worries me more than these guys are the nut jobs that post on here and say if they had been in the position of the old couple they would have started shooting and blown holes in the dad and son. They are worse then the Canoles.”
BS…..if u are on your property and some random folks run up on you with guns, and i can get a good shot, I’m unloading!!
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
4:19 pm
What is it the police in Georgia have against elderly people? Didn’t some old lady get killed by the APD during a botched drug raid, and now deputies high fiving private citizens who take the law into their own hands. The elderly population doesn’t need to fear “death panels”, they just need to stay out of Georgia.
Libertarian
April 24th, 2012
4:20 pm
Calling it like it is-
1. the white guys are probably psychos….I mean, they own AR15’s. NORMAL people would call the police if they thought the house next door was being robbed.
2. if it had been black people holding up black people the AJC probably wouldn’t be reporting on this.
josef
April 24th, 2012
4:20 pm
generation
The term “redneck” is just a code word for and used by people who have to find some class of people to feel superior to…I’m native to that cultural milieu and am quite at home there. There are good folks and bad folks, with most a combination of the two, just like any other culture any where else on our Celestial Ball of Blue. As soon as I hear somebody throwing it around, I just go ahead and class them with the same folks who use terms like…well, the moderator won’t let me use them here, but you know what I mean…any of “those people” whoever those people are somebody thinks they’re superior to.
Oscar
April 24th, 2012
4:21 pm
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
4:19 pm
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Just trying to hold down medicare and medicaid costs. Budget is in the red.
Fred ™
April 24th, 2012
4:22 pm
You are the DEVIL JAY. I waited all day for you to bring up this topic but no. you waited until almost the very moment I signed out and THEN posted.
5 pages in to the discussion I don;t know if I want to comment or pout. I think I’ll pout for a while so THERE.
Oscar
April 24th, 2012
4:23 pm
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
April 24th, 2012
4:18 pm
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Go ahead. and if you kill them you will be facing life without parole.
Fred ™
April 24th, 2012
4:24 pm
josef
April 24th, 2012
4:20 pm
generation
The term “redneck” is just a code word for and used by people who have to find some class of people to feel superior to…I’m native to that cultural milieu and am quite at home there. There are good folks and bad folks, with most a combination of the two, just like any other culture any where else on our Celestial Ball of Blue. As soon as I hear somebody throwing it around, I just go ahead and class them with the same folks who use terms like…well, the moderator won’t let me use them here, but you know what I mean…any of “those people” whoever those people are somebody thinks they’re superior to.
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Funny. I use the term redneck to talk about my brothers and sisters……….
Paul
April 24th, 2012
4:24 pm
josef 4:20
When I was a kid one of my friends liked to walk around singing part of the Merry Minuet:
“The French hate the Germans. The Germans hate the Poles. Italians hate Yugoslavs. South Africans hate the Dutch and I don’t like anybody very much!”
Paul
April 24th, 2012
4:25 pm
Poutrage cleanup at 4:22!!! Get the fainting couch!!!!
Fred ™
April 24th, 2012
4:27 pm
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
4:19 pm
What is it the police in Georgia have against elderly people? Didn’t some old lady get killed by the APD during a botched drug raid, and now deputies high fiving private citizens who take the law into their own hands. The elderly population doesn’t need to fear “death panels”, they just need to stay out of Georgia.
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Dude, I don’t think I have EVER read you post something so stupid lol.
Ever hear of squatters and squatters “rights” and BS like that? It’s a pretty sizable problem here.
Fred ™
April 24th, 2012
4:27 pm
LOL Paul :hug:
Fred ™
April 24th, 2012
4:28 pm
Well that was an emoticon fail.
Jm
April 24th, 2012
4:28 pm
Paul u r weird
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
April 24th, 2012
4:28 pm
“Go ahead. and if you kill them you will be facing life without parole.”
And they’d be “pushing up daisies”…. and I’d be #WINNING
RB from Gwinnett
April 24th, 2012
4:29 pm
The issue is you either want people to get involved when they see things that don’t look right or you don’t. You whiners keep wanting to bash gun toting people who are willing to get involved because it might occasionally go wrong but that’s the only thing keeping thugs from looking around, not seeing any cops nearby, and taking your wallet or purse. This “leave it to the cops” attitude is just plain dumb.
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
4:29 pm
Oscar – You don’t seem to understand how the law works. If you run at me on my property with guns, I’m feeling like my life might be threatened, which gives me the right to end yours. Might not be the best solution, but I can assure you that only one of us is walking away without extra holes, and if I have the opportunity, it won’t be you.
Fred – I understand what josef is saying, I’ve encountered that type of bigotry often (a lot from my boss actually), but I also refer to my family and friends that way. There is a difference between me or you calling our family or friends that in a happy/joking/familiar way, and someone else referring to us that way as if it were a bad thing.
Jm
April 24th, 2012
4:30 pm
Squatters everywhere in the Atl
Too many homes + crummy economy
Atl may be next Detroit
Just start burning the vacant homes
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
4:31 pm
Fred – “Dude, I don’t think I have EVER read you post something so stupid lol.”
Hey man, I try to make the posts fit the subject matter. Seriously, look at the pictures of the Canoles. Do you think I could post ANYTHING smart about them?
Rockerbabe
April 24th, 2012
4:31 pm
The sane thing to do would have been to introduce yourself to the people and ask them who they are and what are they doing? If you don’t like the answers, then call the cops.
Jefferson
April 24th, 2012
4:32 pm
Next thing you know someone will want you to prove who you are to vote.
Thulsa Doom
April 24th, 2012
4:32 pm
Had to pop some corn to come back and watch the show. Looks like the raw meat Jay fed em today has em still a howling. We got the race hustlers like mm, gm, and zebra and all the anti 2nd amendment folks getting their hate on.
Otis and Andy unnecessarily terrorized a couple of old folks and that’s a really bad thing. But the bright side is that they gave the salivating minions something to get their hate on about. Nothing like seeing them in their full fury and all their righteous indignation.
I need to ice down my soda a little more for the rest of the show.
Fred ™
April 24th, 2012
4:32 pm
RB from Gwinnett
April 24th, 2012
4:29 pm
The issue is you either want people to get involved when they see things that don’t look right or you don’t. You whiners keep wanting to bash gun toting people who are willing to get involved because it might occasionally go wrong but that’s the only thing keeping thugs from looking around, not seeing any cops nearby, and taking your wallet or purse. This “leave it to the cops” attitude is just plain dumb.
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I ALMOST agree with you RB. Perhaps the case could have been made better had the armed pair NOT pointed their weapons at a couple of old people and threatened to shoot them. Just casually checking on the property and calling the cops AND making sure the potential squatters didn’t leave could have been accomplished without throwing down on the people.
Generation$crewed
April 24th, 2012
4:33 pm
josef
April 24th, 2012
4:20 pm
Agreed and I would like to make clear that when I said they deserved the term I meant the term in its negative ways and did intend to show superiority. As I feel we are almost all above the level of thinking displayed by these two. They gave basis to all those who would show a stereotype. It does not mean I feel we have more value as a person, just a higher level of thinking
It is all in how the term is used, just like with other terms of bigotry across all races. Most times it applies in a comical way but sadly it also applies in cases of negativity as this.
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
4:33 pm
Paul – That reminds me, have you ever heard “National Brotherhood Day” by Tom Leher? If not, you should look it up, if so, it is funny enough to look up again.
barking frog
April 24th, 2012
4:33 pm
Like him or not, Jeff
Foxworthy has made
redneck a term of
endearment.
Paul
April 24th, 2012
4:33 pm
Jm
And proud of it!
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
4:33 pm
Wait, correction, it is “National Brotherhood Week”
Fred ™
April 24th, 2012
4:34 pm
There is a difference between me or you calling our family or friends that in a happy/joking/familiar way, and someone else referring to us that way as if it were a bad thing.
Sorry, I don’t see it that way. When someone refers to ME as a redneck I smile, thank them, and shake their hand. I don’t give a fat rat’s ass if someone is trying to make it an insult. It’s only an insult if I’m insulted and I’m not.
ty webb
April 24th, 2012
4:35 pm
Now that’s a couple who’s son would look like obama hypothetical one.
Tester
April 24th, 2012
4:35 pm
No excuse for the boneheaded Canoles.
Maybe they thought they were Alleged house squatters arrested in Atlanta
Jefferson
April 24th, 2012
4:35 pm
The way to be involved is call the cops, not be the cops RB, something is dumb for sure, we just don’t agree on who.
Fred ™
April 24th, 2012
4:36 pm
Hey man, I try to make the posts fit the subject matter. Seriously, look at the pictures of the Canoles. Do you think I could post ANYTHING smart about them?
Actually when I saw the pictures all I could think was, “Just damn.”
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
April 24th, 2012
4:36 pm
“The sane thing to do would have been to introduce yourself to the people and ask them who they are and what are they doing? If you don’t like the answers, then call the cops.”
Dumb logic…..you ask them who they are and your dumb azz becomes a possible victim. Secondly, these people dont owe them ANY explanation about nothing.
Call the cops and let them do their job.
josef
April 24th, 2012
4:36 pm
PAUL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUwbZ9AlSPI
“…but everyone hates the Jews…”
Brosephus™
April 24th, 2012
4:37 pm
This “leave it to the cops” attitude is just plain dumb.
Is that not what cops are paid to do? Would you want a plumber doing open heart surgery on you just because he was available and willing to do it? Some people get guns and think they are all powerful. A phone works just as well, and it keeps you from getting your ass handed to you by someone you don’t see coming.
A what if… Say everything went down like it was, but the people were indeed robbing the house. While tweedle dee and tweedle dumb hold the two at gun point, they don’t see the lookout come up from behind and they both get .40 cal slugs to the cranial vault. What did they accomplish then?
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
4:37 pm
RB from Gwinnett – “but that’s the only thing keeping thugs from looking around, not seeing any cops nearby, and taking your wallet or purse”
Or, coming on to your propoerty that you rightfully own and holding you hostage for no reason.
Paul
April 24th, 2012
4:38 pm
(ir)Rational
I hadn’t, I did, and I laughed.
I was going to say, not much has changed in 40 or 50 years, but really, much has, and for the better.
But the 20 percent rule comes in. 20 percent just never get it.
For the rest of you, here’s the link to National Brotherhood Week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIlJ8ZCs4jY
Matti
April 24th, 2012
4:38 pm
RB from Gwinnett @ 4:29,
You’d ALMOST have a valid point there, if the Canoles were interfering to save someone’s life. Earlier, I posted an example about having a drunk, violent neighbor kicking the *bleep* out of his wife again. I would call the police, (and have), but if it’s happening on the porch, in the yard, or in view of me, and I see that he’s about to kill her, I might interfere with my weapon before the police arrive. Interesting, (but not surprising here in the land of “boot heels belong on a woman’s neck”) that nobody responded to that.
The Canoles were not responding to a threat on anybody’s physical safety.
ty webb
April 24th, 2012
4:39 pm
meant “Obama’s”…that being said, the neighbor with the gun definitely overreacted. Just glad no one was shot.
Jefferson
April 24th, 2012
4:39 pm
If you are scared, buy insurance others buy handguns.
Paul
April 24th, 2012
4:39 pm
josef
““…but everyone hates the Jews…”
See? You’re a uniter, not a divider!
Thulsa Doom
April 24th, 2012
4:39 pm
“I ALMOST agree with you RB. Perhaps the case could have been made better had the armed pair NOT pointed their weapons at a couple of old people and threatened to shoot them. Just casually checking on the property and calling the cops AND making sure the potential squatters didn’t leave could have been accomplished without throwing down on the people.”
Well damn Fred we just may agree on something yet again. I’ve no problem with the 2 of them going over there to ask these 2 folks what they are doing if they’ve never seen them in the neighborhood. Nothing wrong with checking things out. If it was me I woulda just called the cops and stayed inside though. And pointing an AK-47 at someone is a terrifying experience I’m sure. That’s just plain idiotic. Still good theater today for all the anti- gun folks and the race hustlers.
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
4:40 pm
josef – My roommate in college introduced me to that. I have laughed for years since. Well, a few years anyway.
Fred ™
April 24th, 2012
4:41 pm
A what if… Say everything went down like it was, but the people were indeed robbing the house. While tweedle dee and tweedle dumb hold the two at gun point, they don’t see the lookout come up from behind and they both get .40 cal slugs to the cranial vault. What did they accomplish then?
A cleansing of the gene pool. But wait. If that had happened then tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber wouldn’t have been so dumb after all would they? Nope, they would have been dead assed right, with the emphasis on the dead ass………
Read my reply to RB Bro. The two were ALMOST right in what they did……….
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
4:43 pm
RB has inspired me.Nnext time I’m in Atlanta, and I’m cruising down the 85, if I see someone speeding, and I feel that they are a threat, I won’t wait for the police. I’ll simply unload my Glock 9mm into the drivers side window in the interest of public safety. Thanks RB!
Paul
April 24th, 2012
4:43 pm
Brosephus
“While tweedle dee and tweedle dumb hold the two at gun point, they don’t see the lookout come up from behind and they both get .40 cal slugs to the cranial vault. What did they accomplish then?”
But that’s not how the Walter Mitty stories end!!!
Wassamatta with you today?!!!?!!!?
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
4:43 pm
RB has inspired me.Next time I’m in Atlanta, and I’m cruising down the 85, if I see someone speeding, and I feel that they are a threat, I won’t wait for the police. I’ll simply unload my Glock 9mm into the drivers side window in the interest of public safety. Thanks RB!
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
4:44 pm
Paul – He did a lot of funny stuff. You might want to spend some time on YouTube checking it out. “New Math” and “MLF Lullaby” and “Elements” are some of my favorites. If you grew up in the 60s or 70s, you’ll probably understand “New Math.”
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
4:46 pm
Butch – That’s a funny joke you told, someone speeding on I-85 in Gwinnett.
Matti
April 24th, 2012
4:46 pm
… although, if I were to kill a man to save the life of the woman he was trying to kill, (@4:38), I’m certain I’d do hard time for it. This is Georgia, where wimmins jes cain’t be trusted with life and death decisions.
barking frog
April 24th, 2012
4:46 pm
The Canoles and the police
reacted to the race of the
couple and probably will
again. Welcome to
America.
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
4:47 pm
Paul – “Pollution” is another, can’t believe I forgot that one.
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
4:48 pm
Those old folks can have their home when they pry my AR 15 from my cold dead hand.
josef
April 24th, 2012
4:48 pm
PAUL, (ir)Rational
My mom was a huge Tom Lehrer fan…kinda interesting some of the things you’re exposed to in the cotton patches of North Mississippi, eh?
Simple Truths
April 24th, 2012
4:50 pm
Carlos,
Founding fathers, legal scholars, and many people disagree with your interpretation of the Second Amendment. To state your opinion as a fact makes you seem pathetic.
josef
April 24th, 2012
4:50 pm
frog
The race of the “couple?” His is fairly obvious, but hers…maybe that was it…
BROSEPHUS
Looking at the house…the hood on wheels?
Brosephus™
April 24th, 2012
4:51 pm
Fred
The moral of the story is, “Leave the policing to the police.”
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Paul
I’m trying to rip a hole in the time space continuum.
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
4:51 pm
josef – Oddly enough, when I took the CD home in college, my parents had never heard of him. It was odd introducing them to something from their “time period” in 2003/2004.
Brosephus™
April 24th, 2012
4:54 pm
josef
I didn’t wanna breach that topic…..
josef
April 24th, 2012
4:54 pm
matti
I think you might be wrong there…chivalry ain’t dead and ya gotta remember he needed killin is a legitimate defense in some parts! Now, of course, once her life was saved, she’d better get back to the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant as G-d intended…
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
4:58 pm
josef – There is a case I heard about, and granted it was in the 50s (maybe late 40s), that took place up in NW GA. Guy was on trial for murder. Defense attorney got him off by posing the question to the judge and jury about what they would have done if someone would have called them a “SOB,” as this was the acknowledged reason the guy on trial shot the other guy. I think the state knew they had lost when members of the jury and judge agreed that they would have “shot the SOB.”
philosopher
April 24th, 2012
4:59 pm
Jm: ..it’s called being facetious.
Woodstock Mike
April 24th, 2012
5:00 pm
Do Democrats consider these people vigilantes??
http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/23/31/man-beaten-mob-critical-condition-ar-3659891/
carlosgvv
April 24th, 2012
5:00 pm
Simple Truths – 4:50
Anyone who understands US history and the English language cannot honestly intrepret it any other way. The conservative Supreme Court members are nothing but lackeys for the Republican Party who are bought and paid for by Big Business which includes the NRA and gun manufacturers. Money for elections and re-elections and profit mean more to these people than the 40,000 Ameircans who lose their lives each year to guns. Only in America.
josef
April 24th, 2012
5:00 pm
(ir)Rational
Lehrer was a sort of “in crowd” cult figure…
Jm
April 24th, 2012
5:00 pm
Frog 4:46
They might have a good legal case on that one
Matti
April 24th, 2012
5:02 pm
josef @ 4:54,
Of course! We do respect “what G-d intended” in these parts.
Funny… I wonder how many of those who defended the Canoles as being “good neighbors” have also turned away and refused to involve themselves when witnessing (or hearing) domestic violence in their neighborhoods? You know, you can only live so many years without witnessing or hearing it. Happens in every kind of neighborhood, without regard to race, religion, orientation, or socioeconomic factors. How many of them… said…. “That’s none of our business. Let them work it out,” and did nothing?
**crickets chirp amid awkward silence**
pogo
April 24th, 2012
5:03 pm
I am a firm believer in the Second but it would take a lot more than what these two supposedly saw to make me pull out the guns. This could be two rednecks looking for some reason to shoulder their weapons to make them feel powerful or it could be two people that are very familiar with the crime situation in their area. Personally, I think the prior is accurate. One thing for sure, the lady business owner in Macon sure excercised her 2nd amendment right this past weekend and she is alive for it today. Research it Jay. Of course you probably already know about it but that story wouldn’t play for your liberal friends like this one, would it?
And Obama is out there wooing the college students (on the taxpayers dime) with promises of free degrees. What in the hell does a college degree matter if you graduate and you can’t find a job? Obama is not about job creation. He is about spending taxpayer money for continuance of political power. He will never understand that without one (job creation in the private sector) there is not the other (spending taxpayer money by the government). This guy is in deep trouble and all the liberal fairy dust in the world (provided by media people like Jay) won’t help him. I just sent in my maximum allowable contribution to the Romney campaign. I haven’t yet contributed to the “PACS” but I intend to. Maybe I am throwing it away and maybe I am saving this country. The only reason I bring it up is to remind you libs to do the same for your man Obama. Of course receiving checks, not sending them, is what liberals do best, isn’t it?
Thomas
April 24th, 2012
5:04 pm
Gather up the Canoles (and all Canole “relatives”, the Black Panthers, the KKK, and other various gangs and drop them all into Kabul.
Multiple problems solved.
Thulsa Doom
April 24th, 2012
5:04 pm
Woodstock Mike,
Damn. That was incredible. Wonder why that didn’t make national news.
josef
April 24th, 2012
5:04 pm
(ir)Rational
I remember back when I was working in the newspaper, there came in a story about a woman in my home town who had killed her husband, stabbed him 157 times with a dinner fork. Seems she didn’t have hot cornbread for his turnip greens and complained. I recognized the names and these were “upstanding” people. I called Mama and asked her about it. She said there wasn’t a court in the county would convict her, “everybody knew he had it coming.” Sure enough, when it went to trial she got off with a slap on the wrist. The judge put it this way, “he was good and dead by the 50th stab. There was a lot more went into this than cornbread and turnip greens!”
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
5:05 pm
josef – I didn’t realize that. Then again, I can easily understand that considering people don’t always find the same things funny.
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
April 24th, 2012
5:05 pm
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
4:19 pm
What is it the police in Georgia have against elderly people? Didn’t some old lady get killed by the APD during a botched drug raid, and now deputies high fiving private citizens who take the law into their own hands. The elderly population doesn’t need to fear “death panels”, they just need to stay out of Georgia.
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Butch, I like my odds here vs the NYPD.
I haven’t read about a Black man being shot like 80 time while reaching for their wallet.
Or being raped with a mop handle IN the police station.
getalife
April 24th, 2012
5:06 pm
Mad cow!
josef
April 24th, 2012
5:07 pm
matti
I know at least one wife-beater who got the wrong end of a baseball bat…it was MY business…
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
5:08 pm
josef – The South (and I would assume much of the rest of the country) was a different place back in the day. And with that, I’m out. Y’all have a great evening.
G Mare 71( got the living' the red state BLUES!)
April 24th, 2012
5:10 pm
Paul, thanks for the song; I have many fond memories asscociated with it
Soothsayer
April 24th, 2012
5:13 pm
When I first read this story, I said Oh, Shyte! Not only is this couple going to be realeased and the charges dropped, but the two Holy Canoles are going to be up for some serious charges.
Sure enough, the charges were dropped and the Holy Canoles are in jail.
Friends, no matter how justified or how “right” you think you are, you simply cannot go around pointing rifles at people and holding them against their will until police arrive.
What was a lapse in judgment on the part of the Holy Canoles will likely result in some serious damage to their lives. If they have jobs, they will likely lose them. If they don’t spend time in jail, they will likely have to pay some serious fines.
The next shoe to drop is that this couple’s attorney is going to sue the police/sheriff or whatever they have there for false arrest. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a whopping settlement.
This should be a lesson to everyone. Just call the police. Let them handle it. Unless, of course, someone is trying to break into your house.
Matti
April 24th, 2012
5:17 pm
josef,