Second Amendment is not an excuse for vigilantes
So you’re sitting at home minding your own business and you hear noises from the place next door, which hasn’t been occupied for months.
You look outside and see two people, an older man and woman, at the front of the place, trying to open the door. What do you do?
Bake your new neighbors a pie? Call the police to report strangers next door?
Jean Kalonji and his wife, Angelica, were held at gunpoint by neighbors outside the home their son had just purchased for them.
If you’re Robert Canoles of Porterville, you apparently take it upon yourself to grab your teenaged son, arm him and yourself with AR-15s, then march next door to confront and hold the terrified couple at gunpoint until sheriff deputies arrive.
Read the story by the AJC’s Christian Boone. Once deputies arrived, the older couple were arrested, charged with loitering and prowling and forced to spend the night in jail. Nobody paid much heed to their explanation that their son had just purchased the empty house and that they were changing the locks at the place they planned to make their new home.
But it turned out they were telling the truth.
As a result, the couple has been freed. Canoles and his son, on the other hand, have been arrested, charged with aggravated assault, false imprisonment and criminal trespass. They now sit in jail.
“I don’t know what they can charge me with,” Canoles is quoted as saying before the arrest. “This is my Second Amendment right. Look, this is the country out here, and we protect our own.”
The good news is that this time, nobody got injured or killed, which under the circumstances was a definite possibility. But it also illustrates what can happen when loose talk about “Second Amendment rights” becomes translated in certain minds into a license to become vigilantes.
– Jay Bookman
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Paul
April 24th, 2012
3:17 pm
Grasshopper
“These two saw people breaking into a neighboring house and potentially breaking the law. ”
I’m still having trouble with your defining anybody making repairs to a door as breaking into a house.
RB from Gwinnett
April 24th, 2012
3:18 pm
If your neighbors saw someone entering YOUR home, would you want them to stop/question them or just call the police and hope they show up soon?
What if your wife and kids were home alone? Would it matter to you?
BTW. You might want to check the average response times before you answer.
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
3:19 pm
I know it’s been a while since I lived in Georgia, but did they change the 2nd ammendment to include the right to hold unarmed senior citizens hostage at gunpoint? Wow, I still stand in amazement at Georgias ability to outdo itself again and again.
Jm
April 24th, 2012
3:19 pm
The second amendment is the last bulwark against complete tyranny
I don’t own anything other than a rifle and shotgun that are probably both too rusty to work
But I respect the right of people to bear arms
Including crazy weapons like AR 15s
If you don’t like America, consider leaving
I have
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
April 24th, 2012
3:19 pm
gm
April 24th, 2012
2:22 pm
Wow look at these old people, I wonder if these were two old white people would they have ran outside and hold a gun at their heads? I wonder would the police have listen to their story if they were older whites ?
To all the idiots and out of touch people who says Al and Jessie are race baiters, this is why, thank God they still are fighting, just once I would like to hear about a white kid get shot the way Martin was killed or a situation where two old white people are taken to jail and held at gun point.
Once this happen you right wing out of touch Americans need to shut up.
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gm, I honestly could not understand what you are tryig to say. other than the usual racially biased mess you usually post.
I’ll give you the same advice I gave a co-worker that has a habit of saying dumb stuff.
Think about what you want to say, run it through the filter in your mind.
If it makes sense to you.
DON’T say it.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 24th, 2012
3:19 pm
These two saw people breaking into a neighboring house and potentially breaking the law. And they stopped them and called the police
Thats just it they werent breaking in. It isnt up to them to decide who is and who isnt breaking the law.
Thats for law enforcement.
I wouldnt want these nutjobs living anywhere around me.
Jerome Horwitz
April 24th, 2012
3:20 pm
IMO – I don’t want neighbors who jump to conclusions carrying semi automatic weapons. What happens the next time my friends show up? Shoot them too. A good neighbor watches the house and if something looks suspect they call the police (in this case it wouldn’t have made much difference because they are evidently a pack of jackwagons) noting the description of the individuals, car make and license number.
Paul
April 24th, 2012
3:20 pm
Another think I’m having difficulty figuring out.
What is it about a certain element of our population (Minutemen, Zimmers, Canoles) who think police, Border Patrol and military are incompetent so they think they have to buy a gun and even if law enforcement tells them to back off, then they say ‘hey, I’ve got a gun, I’m gonna go take care of this all by my manly self.”
Zebra
April 24th, 2012
3:20 pm
RB from Gwinett, that is another right-wing false equivalence. It was an abandoned home. These slimeballs weren’t protecting anybody.
jconservative
April 24th, 2012
3:22 pm
From Justice Scalia’s majority opinion in the Heller case:
“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose:”
The Second Amendment gives one the right to possess the weapon. The Second Amendment says nothing about the use of the weapon.
Maybe we should institute an IQ test for owing a weapon.
” Look, this is the country out here, and we protect our own.”
It appears the Canoles kidnapped one of their own, their neighbors.
Matti
April 24th, 2012
3:22 pm
Grasshopper,
Calling police = good neighbor.
Charging over there with guns drawn = morons.
Self defense does not apply, nor does protecting the life of another. If your violent, drunken neighbor is on the front porch, kicking his wife’s skull in… again…. and you think her life is in danger, then (I think) it’s okay to both call the police AND point your gun at him, demanding he kindly refrain from kicking her bloodied head again until the police and EMTs arrive to assess his right to do so. Even if they were breaking in to an empty house for the unforgivable excuse of sleeping with a roof over their heads that night, charging over there with drawn guns = MORON.
Paul
April 24th, 2012
3:23 pm
RB from Gwinnett
“If your neighbors saw someone entering YOUR home, would you want them to stop/question them or just call the police and hope they show up soon?
What if your wife and kids were home alone? Would it matter to you? ”
But that’s not what happened here, is it? The Canoles knew the wife and kids weren’t in the house.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
April 24th, 2012
3:23 pm
Well, I reckon if the cops arrest and lock up enough people they’ll sooner or later get the right ones.
I was kinda leaning to the side of the couple trying to get in the place and against the father and son. Then I seen she looks White and he’s . . . one of Those People! It was about that time I come out in favor of 2nd Amenment Rights and the God-given right to blast away with your gun if you see something that looks fishy.
My advise is not to rely on the cops to catch the crooks. They couldn’t catch a cold outside in the middle of a ice storm in February while buck-nekkid. I only hope the libruls don’t pick up this story and use it to try and take our guns away. Anyway, that couple in the picture look like the kinda trash that ought to be in jail even if they never done anything wrong. We don’t put up with that kinda junk up here in my part of Forsyth County. It just burns me up to think my Daddy stood up against Hosea and his gang of thugs back when they tried to come up here, and now look what’s happening.
Have a good p.m. everybody.
BMDPD
April 24th, 2012
3:24 pm
Carlos, you are the idiot. Tell me under what pretense was the 2nd amendment written? You don’t have a clue. We were given the right to bear arms to protect ourselves from a corrupt (British) government. You are way of base here pal.
getalife
April 24th, 2012
3:24 pm
jm,
Like christie told the nets, good riddance.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 24th, 2012
3:25 pm
I know it’s been a while since I lived in Georgia, but did they change the 2nd ammendment to include the right to hold unarmed senior citizens hostage at gunpoint? Wow, I still stand in amazement at Georgias ability to outdo itself again and again.
These two guys had a hunch something was going on. Therefore they have every right as a private citizen to detain another citizen at gunpoint.
And if those two old folks make a flase move they have every right to shoot them
Or so the story goes.
They BOTH suck
April 24th, 2012
3:25 pm
Zebra @ 3:16
Thulsa and I do not agree much on political issues and we have had our back and forths………
I would say that there are times imo when Thulsa pushed the limit……
With that said, unless there are things you know about him that have not been presented on this blog, he is not a racist……
You have your right to your opinion, however a racist is not what Thulsa is…………….
Grasshopper
April 24th, 2012
3:25 pm
Paul,
Here is a quote from the article:
“Canoles said he and his teenage son, Branden, heard noises from the once-foreclosed home next door, vacant for seven months. They grabbed their AR-15s and snuck up behind a man and woman fiddling with the front door lock.”
I can’t help you any more than this.
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
3:27 pm
RB from Gwinnett – “If your neighbors saw someone entering YOUR home, would you want them to stop/question them or just call the police and hope they show up soon?”
Or, would you actually call the peoples son, as suggested, to confirm that he was in fact the rightful owner and clear everything up in 5 minutes.Aapparently, that location is the only place in the free world devoid of cell phones, reception and common sense.
Grasshopper
April 24th, 2012
3:28 pm
“What is it about a certain element of our population (Minutemen, Zimmers, Canoles) who think police, Border Patrol and military are incompetent so they think they have to buy a gun and even if law enforcement tells them to back off, then they say ‘hey, I’ve got a gun, I’m gonna go take care of this all by my manly self.”
That is a good question Paul. Experience maybe?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 24th, 2012
3:28 pm
Also the second amendment says arms.
Not guns.
mm
April 24th, 2012
3:28 pm
And Georgians wonder why so many people around the country think the majority in GA are redneck racist hicks.
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
3:29 pm
BMDPD – “We were given the right to bear arms to protect ourselves from a corrupt (British) government.”
Don’t be afraid of the British, they’re our friends now.
jconservative
April 24th, 2012
3:30 pm
“I don’t know what they can charge me with,” Canoles is quoted as saying before the arrest. “This is my Second Amendment right. Look, this is the country out here, and we protect our own.”
This is the person who brought the Second Amendment into the conversation.
Obviously he has never read the Second Amendment.
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
3:31 pm
mm – “And Georgians wonder why so many people around the country think the majority in GA are redneck racist hicks.”
Trust me, we don’t have to think it. Folks like the Canoles provide such overwhelming evidence that there can be no doubt.
mm
April 24th, 2012
3:31 pm
“You have your right to your opinion, however a racist is not what Thulsa is…………….”
You must have a reading comprehension issue.
Matti
April 24th, 2012
3:31 pm
Butch Cassidy,
They pretend to be our friends now, but they say ugly things about us behind our backs.
TaxPayer
April 24th, 2012
3:32 pm
On a side note, let me just say $55,000 for a house and 11 acres! Dammmmm! No wonder poor ole JB is struggling. He can’t buy the land or the materials, either one, to build a house on 11 acres for that price. I wonder what kind of policies he thinks Obama can implement that would make a difference short of offering some sort of $100,000 tax credits to him for each house he built.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 24th, 2012
3:32 pm
And Georgians wonder why so many people around the country think the majority in GA are redneck racist hicks.
It really comes down to a lack of education. the lower the education level and the fewer college grads in that state , the more likely its a red state where this sort of thing happens constantly.
Jerome Horwitz
April 24th, 2012
3:32 pm
Isn’t the Second Amendment about arming Bears? That at least would make hunting season even.
BMDPD
April 24th, 2012
3:33 pm
Oooh Oooh, the leftest racism argument again. Here we go! Gotta love it. Whitey is racist so we should let our black youth run wild and beat them up for no reason like the recent events that happened in Wisconsin, Maryland, Iowa, Michigan and don’t forget Chattanooga. That stuff is never publicized, but let some white folks pull a gun on a mixed race couple fooling with a lock on a friggin trailer and call out racism!?!?!?! D@MN you people are stupid.
Paul
April 24th, 2012
3:33 pm
Grasshopper
Like you said, you think anybody making home repairs to a front door should automatically be assumed to be breaking in.
“That is a good question Paul. Experience maybe?”
Well, rather than think cops, Border Patrol and military are all incompetent, I’d lean more to the point of view such people have a severe Walter Mitty complex, made all the more severe by possession of a firearm.
philosopher
April 24th, 2012
3:34 pm
This one is so obvious that I’m thinking Jay tossed it out there just to bring the vermin into the light.
mm
April 24th, 2012
3:34 pm
Butch,
I lived in GA for 31 years. I know for a fact. The smaller the town, the worse it gets.
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
3:34 pm
Matti – “They pretend to be our friends now, but they say ugly things about us behind our backs.”
If British soldiers show up at your door attempting to kill you or relieve you of your property, I promise I’ll have your back. But just in case, you may want to put a shout out to BMDPD and the Canoles.:)
Generation$crewed
April 24th, 2012
3:34 pm
Is this really a 2nd amendment issue?
Just because a redneck gives that as his defense does not mean it should be debated.
Other than the way nutjobs like this guy and his son, who has advocated this as an appropriate use of the 2nd amendment?
Any politician, top 10 radio/tv personality?
Is anyone advocating going onto someone other than their own guns blazin’ and kidnapping folks, not carrying a gun but pointing at people from the jump, as a reasonable application of the 2nd amendment?
If not should the cops not be the main discussion, and not the 2nd amendment?
Or is this just another point for both sides to use as political fuel, hoping to stir outrage one way or the other?
Brosephus™
April 24th, 2012
3:35 pm
“I don’t know what they can charge me with,” Canoles is quoted as saying before the arrest. “This is my Second Amendment right. Look, this is the country out here, and we protect our own.”
No, this is your obvious clue that you need to learn what the Constitution actually says instead of “thinking” you know what it says. Good thing you didn’t run up on somebody who was armed and put two in your chest for that dumb sh*t.
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jm @ 2:55
They didn’t harm anyone
They’re nutballs, but they didn’t hurt anyone
Let someone point a loaded gun at you and see what kind of harm is done. Especially when you don’t know whether that person has any idea of how to use the damned thing.
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Grasshopper
These two saw people breaking into a neighboring house and potentially breaking the law. And they stopped them and called the police. Again, they sound like neighbors that might be good to have around.
IF they are not law enforcement, they don’t have a right to hold someone at gunpoint. Had they run up on someone like me, they could have very well ended up with a few ventilation holes in their body cavities. If you walk up on my, and I’m on my property, I’m probably gonna have that laser beam on your forehead before you can blink. Those jackasses are lucky they didn’t run up on the wrong people.
Jm
April 24th, 2012
3:35 pm
We don’t live in Europe people
Americans own guns
And some of them are nuts
JamVet
April 24th, 2012
3:36 pm
mm,
There was a show on back in the 80s that my son watched – You Can’t Do That on Television – and they had a regular segment called the “Opposites Skit”.
Mr. Blogging Rearward lives that thing!
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
3:36 pm
I’m kinda on the fence on this story. While I’m not sure it had anything to do with race, I feel it definitely was a case of the worst judgement possible. I agree that the idiots with guns should be charged with false imprisonment and aggravated assault, and I agree with the fact that the cops that arrested the older couple (btw, not the homeowners, their son bought the house) are on administrative leave. Depending on where they were on the property, they probably didn’t meet the legal definition of trespassing when they were arrested, but I would bet most people, including police, couldn’t give me the legal definition of trespassing.
Having said all that, better judgement all around could have saved a lot of trouble here. You (or your son) buy a house in a neighborhood, and plan to go after dark to change the locks? Go introduce yourselves to the neighbors and let them know why you’re out there. You see someone outside messing around a house, call the police or just ask them what’s going on. If they say they own the house, but can’t prove it, give them a chance to get that proof there. Then again, that last part goes for both the neighbor and the police. Oh, and please don’t mistake that as an attempt to blame the older couple, I’m simply saying better judgement could have saved some trouble.
Brosephus™
April 24th, 2012
3:38 pm
This one is so obvious that I’m thinking Jay tossed it out there just to bring the vermin into the light.
And it seems like they came in droves…
Jm
April 24th, 2012
3:38 pm
Bro
I think the victims should and can sue the heck out of the aggressors here
But I think it is mostly a civil matter, not a criminal one (other than trespassing and a smattering of other minor offenses)
barking frog
April 24th, 2012
3:38 pm
It’s amusing to find that
many do not understand
that many georgians that
own guns are proud to
to be called redneck
racist hicks by each other
but will shoot anyone else
that does.
question
April 24th, 2012
3:38 pm
Is the Canoles the neighborhood watchmen?
Brosephus™
April 24th, 2012
3:40 pm
But I think it is mostly a civil matter, not a criminal one (other than trespassing and a smattering of other minor offenses)
Good thing you’re not paid to think. Pointing a gun at someone and holding them hostage goes a bit beyond civil shenanigans. False imprisonment is criminal behavior. The “Castle Doctrine” is designed to protect YOUR castle and not the neighborhood.
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
April 24th, 2012
3:40 pm
“If your neighbors saw someone entering YOUR home, would you want them to stop/question them or just call the police and hope they show up soon?”
The house hadnt been occupied for MONTHS.
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
3:40 pm
(ir) – “If they say they own the house, but can’t prove it, give them a chance to get that proof there.”
I think that opportunity was provided when the couple suggested a quick call to their son to straighten out any “misunderstandings”. For whatever reason the “officers” decided to back up the “Deliverance boys” rather than excercise what we in the real world call “common sense”.
Paul
April 24th, 2012
3:40 pm
Afternoon, Generation
“Just because a redneck gives that as his defense does not mean it should be debated.”
If any rednecks read this blog, or quotes from it, I can see good coming from the discussion.
BMDPD
April 24th, 2012
3:40 pm
And Butch, if you are not smart enough to figure out that we were given the right to bear arms under the pretenses of protecting ourselves from a corrupt, power-hungry government, then you too are pretty dim. 2+2 equals 4 my friend.
Generation$crewed
April 24th, 2012
3:40 pm
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 24th, 2012
3:32 pm
I don’t live in the state anymore either, but when did this type of thing start happening constantly, as you claim?
Jay if this is true you guys at the AJC need to do better work, we should see more about this!
Grasshopper
April 24th, 2012
3:41 pm
You have to view the event in context Paul. These are people that have lived by this foreclosed house for at least seven months, probably much, much longer. They see people they do not know possibly breaking in and they acted upon that. If there had been a locksmith van or Sears truck parked and uniformed servicemen fiddling with the door, they may have reacted differently.
I am just not ready to demonize these two for their actions like so many here are.
Don't Forget
April 24th, 2012
3:42 pm
RB from Gwinnett – “If your neighbors saw someone entering YOUR home, would you want them to stop/question them or just call the police and hope they show up soon?”
I sure as hell wouldn’t want some idiot neighbor holding my family members at gun point. Would you?
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
April 24th, 2012
3:43 pm
godless heathen©
April 24th, 2012
2:27 pm
When I bought my house, they gave me the keys. Just saying……..
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They had the keys, they were about to change the locks.
When you purchase a foreclosed home, one of the first things that is suggested is to change the locks. If you don’t, the previous occupants (the people who lost the home to foreclosure) will still have access to your house. There have been occasions where they have returned to the property and either vandalized or robbed the new owners.
Paul
April 24th, 2012
3:43 pm
Brosephus – from earlier: time for a t-shirt. Pic of Canoles with his AR-15 and the caption “you sure you want this guy living next door?”
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
3:43 pm
Jm – You consider false imprisonment and aggravated assault minor offenses? Neither of which will be hard to prove, by the way. However, I do agree with you, although, from the pictures, the AR-15s might be the only thing they have worth taking.
JV
April 24th, 2012
3:43 pm
From MarketWatch – Three hidden costs of the foreclosure crisis: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/three-hidden-costs-foreclosure-crisis-040128777.html
In many communities, budget cuts to law enforcement mean that officers are pulled out of special assignments and sent back to patrol, said John Firman, director of the research center at The International Association of Chiefs of Police. For example, that means less community policing, which affords officers to gain intelligence about neighborhoods, or it could mean the loss of an officer assigned to a school, Firman said.
At the same time, vacant foreclosure properties are destabilizing neighborhoods. The buildings themselves can be a magnet for crime. But even more than that, it’s a tenet of community policing that a neighborhood with a rundown appearance can signal to criminals that crime is tolerated there, creating a “cycle of criminalization,” Firman said.
JamVet
April 24th, 2012
3:43 pm
philosopher,
It’s working.
But alas, the old couple are still breathing. If they weren’t, then you would have some really happy bloggers here. Especially if he had been wearing a hoodie. After all he was acting “suspicious”.
These Porterdale dipsticks with guns are merely Newton County’s Public Idiots Number One & Two.
Temporarily.
I doubt there is a shortage of them…
Matti
April 24th, 2012
3:43 pm
Butch Cassidy,
Do you think British soliders will be coming to my door? If so, I want to have some pork roast, mashed potatoes, biscuits, and pie ready for them!
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
3:44 pm
BMDPD – “And Butch, if you are not smart enough to figure out that we were given the right to bear arms under the pretenses of protecting ourselves from a corrupt, power-hungry government, then you too are pretty dim.2+2 equals 4 my friend.”
Thanks for the math lesson. Now, why don’t you wrap yourself up in the flag and go to sleep. You don’t want to be tired for Canoles homecoming jamboree ho down do you?
Jm
April 24th, 2012
3:44 pm
Rb 3:18
I’d stay in my house and call the cops like any sane self preservation interested individual
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
April 24th, 2012
3:44 pm
The article says this happened at night. Anyone know how late this occurred? Was it still light out or was it dark?
Just wondering.
Trolls Bane
April 24th, 2012
3:44 pm
Both parties are in the wrong.
The new owners did not posses any documentation proving they could be on the property. That is why they were arrested. Once said documentation was produced, the charges were dropped.
The “neighbors” erred in that they should have only called the police / sheriff and only observed the situation. The did not have the right to point a weapon at the new owners, and they did not have the right to carry their weapon’s onto the a joining property. I have no doubt that the neighbors motives / intentions are right, however how they actually acted was illegal and improper.
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
3:45 pm
Former Black Guy – I would suggest that be the first thing you do no matter what when you buy a new house. You never know who the previous owners gave keys to that they didn’t get back.
BMDPD
April 24th, 2012
3:47 pm
Butch, I apologize for calling you pretty dim. It was a Bill of Rights lesson, not a math lesson. Thus, you must be extremely dim.
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
April 24th, 2012
3:47 pm
And if the couple had loaded him and his son full of hot lead, they would have been justified!
Recon 0311 2533
April 24th, 2012
3:47 pm
Clearly incidents such as this proves that guns aren’t necessary instruments in order to kill or maim. What would have happened if this individual had of been legally armed?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/24/police-racially-charged-assault-not-probed-as-hate-crime-despite-witness-claim/
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
3:48 pm
Trolls Bane – “The new owners did not posses any documentation proving they could be on the property.”
Not sure how you folks do it down in Georgia, but I’m not accustomed to carting around my mortgage papers with me in the off chance that two brain dead rednecks, accompanied by deputy Enos, will demand my “papers” or else.
josef
April 24th, 2012
3:48 pm
First off, let’s get real,,,that couple didn’t need to be held at gunpoint…the neighbors could have just confiscated their walkers…but seriously, this is idiocy run amok, imuao…There was a time when we’d've gone over to help the old folks out…sad statement on the changes that have come about…
Thulsa a racist? Heh, heh…he’s many things and I’ve called him many of them, but a racist is not one of them.
Now as for that lot of y’all taking swipes at Georgia, the rural South, “rednecks” and what have you…sounds pretty bigoted to me…but, then, I’m a rural, white, Southerner myself, so I guess I ought to take a bit of umbrage, eh?
Libertarian
April 24th, 2012
3:48 pm
Tommy Maddox
April 24th, 2012
2:21 pm
AJC won’t report on that. They’d rather report on this non-story where no one was hurt.
TaxPayer
April 24th, 2012
3:48 pm
And given that Newton County is part of the greater metro Atlanta area, I think it safe to conclude that those Canoles are just a couple of crazed Democrats living off of other people’s tax dollars.
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
3:49 pm
Butch – I was meaning that the idiots/police (i.e. the people with guns) should have given them older couple the chance to prove they were there legally. Whether we like it or not, them that’s got the guns makes the rules. Them that don’t, follow the rules. I believe that’s how I was told that particular truth.
philosopher
April 24th, 2012
3:49 pm
Yeah, Jm, let’s just give them good ol’ boys a slap on the back and encourage them not to be so dumb next time. They just shoulda stood on the property line and shot across, and then they wouldn’t a had to go to jail..
paulo 977
April 24th, 2012
3:50 pm
RB from Gwinnett
April 24th, 2012
3:18 pm
______________________________________
Gwinnetter …..a…l…..l the way….
Why am I not surprised at this post????????
Generation$crewed
April 24th, 2012
3:50 pm
Paul
April 24th, 2012
3:40 pm
Seems as if some here are rednecks and seems others are rednecks in denial, or were raised by rednecks and are now acting out in a radical fashion.
But you are correct there are some nuggets mixed throughout the mud.
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
3:50 pm
BMDPD – “Thus, you must be extremely dim.”
This from the man who needs a gun just in case the oppressive British Government might come calling.
stands for decibels
April 24th, 2012
3:50 pm
But alas, the old couple are still breathing. If they weren’t, then you would have some really happy bloggers here. Especially if he had been wearing a hoodie. After all he was acting “suspicious”.
I wish I could say you were over-reacting, but I really can’t.
/drive-by
Brosephus™
April 24th, 2012
3:51 pm
Paul
I saw your and Normal’s suggestion. I’ve been going through my image bank to see what I can come up with.
TaxPayer
April 24th, 2012
3:51 pm
This happened at night! Well that sheds a whole new level of darkness upon the matter. Did that couple show up in hoodies?
Jm
April 24th, 2012
3:52 pm
I’d venture a guess that these nutjobs wouldn’t have gone over AR 15’s in hand if it the couple had been white
That said, this is unimportant in the grand scheme of things
paulo 977
April 24th, 2012
3:53 pm
josef …but seriously, this is idiocy run amok, imuao…There was a time when we’d’ve gone over to help the old folks out…sad statement on the changes that have come about…
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Time for our species to be recycled , don’t you think ?
BMDPD
April 24th, 2012
3:53 pm
Butch, really? Is that the best you have got? I am sorry you can’t figure out what I meant. I will stop trying now. You are too stoopid to grasp the concept.
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
3:54 pm
(ir) – “I believe that’s how I was told that particular truth.”
You’re actually right. I guess I’ve just grown soft living in NYC. Can’t remember the last time one of my neighbors was held at gunpoint while trying to open the door to their home. At the next CO-OP meeting I will definitely reccommend that everyone begin carrying their mortgage with them at all times.
Jefferson
April 24th, 2012
3:55 pm
The deputy should have to spend the night in jail, for starters.
The GMC
April 24th, 2012
3:55 pm
What about the Police that made the arrest? These people who were breaking
in the house could have been criminals. Ever hear of “Citizens Arrest”? The
Canoles were within their legal right to do what they did. What is wrong with
all you people?
Paul
April 24th, 2012
3:56 pm
Generation
And I still think Jeff Foxworthy’s a pretty funny guy.
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
3:56 pm
BMDPD – “You are too stoopid to grasp the concept.”
You mean the mythical concept that the U.S. Government has become so oppresive and evil that at any minute they will come goose stepping up your driveway to get you. That is unless, you have enough supplies and firepower to wait them out. That concept?
Trolls Bane
April 24th, 2012
3:56 pm
Butch,
I’m not sure how carpetbaggers do it, however if you show up next door in the middle of the night, and I don’t know you, I will assume that you are up to no good.
Jm
April 24th, 2012
3:56 pm
Philosopher
You makey no sense as always
barking frog
April 24th, 2012
3:58 pm
Likely the guntoters were
wearing camo hoodies.
many rednecks do these
days…
Butch Cassidy
April 24th, 2012
3:58 pm
Trolls Bane – “I will assume that you are up to no good.”
So would I. That’s when I call the police and keep the suspects within my line of sight until the officers arrive.
JamVet
April 24th, 2012
3:59 pm
Not sure how you folks do it down in Georgia, but I’m not accustomed to carting around my mortgage papers with me in the off chance that two brain dead rednecks, accompanied by deputy Enos, will demand my “papers” or else.
According this AR-15 toting dipstick, it’s his 2nd Amendment right.
And the Newton County Barney Fife’s who arrested the wrong parties might want to see if there are any openings in the Sanford, Florida Police Department.
(ir)Rational
April 24th, 2012
3:59 pm
Butch – I was going to make the comment that I keep my guns cleaned and with plenty of ammo on hand in case the oppressive Yankees come back down here and try to start sh*t again. Then I reconsidered and realized that burning Atlanta to the ground could be the best thing ever to happen to my career.
Jm
April 24th, 2012
3:59 pm
Butch 3:56
Call jon lovitz and ask him
BMDPD
April 24th, 2012
4:00 pm
Butch, you continue proving my point. For that I thank you. Look, just because I told you the pretense in which the second amendment is written is to protect yourself from an overbearing government, that doesn’t mean that I am a paranoid hack that thinks the government is coming to seize my property.
josef
April 24th, 2012
4:00 pm
PAULO
So, true…
Butch…
Oh, get real with that New York thingie…I kinda like going there playing tourist and visiting friends and family, but there are plenty of places you couldn’t pay me to go in broad open daylight under armed guard…provided I could find an armed guard willing to chance it…
Generation$crewed
April 24th, 2012
4:01 pm
josef
April 24th, 2012
3:48 pm
If anyone deserves the title of redneck it is this guy and his son. They carry every negative and nastiness associated with the term.
As far as being used against the state as a whole, or any region agreed! Odd how some who are first to call racism (when they mean bigotry) are the same who do the same to others.
As far as rednecks go, can speak with a big heart about that. My grandpan could outredneck anyone anytime. Wal-mart trips as a kid were always an experience to themselves!
willie lynch
April 24th, 2012
4:02 pm
After all of the fervor surrounding the Trayvon Martin murder you would think these two bright individuals and the equally intellectually efficient police department would have taken just a moment to follow some good sense rules. Notice I didn’t say common sense because that’s the level of knowledge they did employ.
There are two similarities in the events that link Trayvon Martin and these two people. Stereotyping and the response of law enforcement to the actual criminals. Wonder why?
Brosephus™
April 24th, 2012
4:02 pm
What about the Police that made the arrest? These people who were breaking
in the house could have been criminals.Ever hear of “Citizens Arrest”?
When there is no crime or you can not prove a crime has been committed, what do you do then? This is another case of “Leave the law enforcement to the people trained to carry out that job.”
Illegal Alien
April 24th, 2012
4:03 pm
It would have been poetic justice if that couple had pulled their guns and killed the Canoles (or whatever).
If “Stand your ground” was ever appropriate , this was it.
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
April 24th, 2012
4:03 pm
I have never owned a gun and I don’t have any intention of buying one. The neighbors should have just called the police.
However I have bought homes that had been vacant from a previous Foreclosure. I always bring some paperwork in my car when I first go inside and to show the locksmith. When a house sits empty often the neighborhood keeps an eye on it and makes sure no one destroys it and drives it’s value down even more. I have had neighbors ask me who I was and have had the police pull up to check me out.