Rock ‘n roll heaven a little more crowded

According to the Sunday Times of London, organizers of the 2012 Summer Olympics approached the manager of Keith Moon recently to ask if the Who drummer would be available to play as part of the closing ceremonies in this year’s games.

The manager replied that unfortunately, Keith was booked at another venue and would be unable to appear.

Keith will now have to share that gig with another famous rock drummer, the great Levon Helm of The Band, who died this week after a long fight with throat cancer. Helm, an Arkansas boy who never lost touch with his roots, played a central role in American rock history in the ’60s and ’70s.

And then, of course, there was the passing of America’s oldest living teenager, Dick Clark, longtime host of American Bandstand. Clark, too, played a critical role in the development of rock and roll, helping to convert it from a dangerous, rebellious form of music to a mainstream business opportunity. To Clark’s credit, he performed that function without ever seeming to lose respect for what that music really was. He was rock’s ambassador to mainstream American culture.

I thought for a while about how to mark the passing of both Helm and Clark. The most obvious way would have been to post an appearance by The Band on American Bandstand, but I’m quite sure without even researching the question that such a thing never happened. Let’s just say that Clark and Helm moved in different circles.

So, as a compromise, we turn to the Righteous Brothers:

– Jay Bookman

386 comments Add your comment

Recon 0311 2533

April 22nd, 2012
6:50 pm

“I’ve even heard religious leaders state the same thing about Sunday morning segregation.”

Bro, I can only relate to what I see at our church.

Recon 0311 2533

April 22nd, 2012
6:55 pm

Kayaker71,

It might get tossed or it might go to trial. If it’s the latter there will need to be a change of venue in my opinion. I’m by no means an expert but I would think there could very well be a plea bargain down to a greatly reduced offense with no prison time.

Matti

April 22nd, 2012
6:56 pm

josef,

Like every day, just looking for some reason to believe.
:(

Brosephus™

April 22nd, 2012
6:57 pm

Recon

I think there’s far more than what people think they know. The big problem that I can see for the prosecution is that the city of Sanford made too much info available to the public. Any conviction obtained would have an instant avenue for appeal because of that.

josef

April 22nd, 2012
7:00 pm

matti

Straight men never listen until it’s too late. Just read over a lot of what’s posted here that is not directly related to the WOW and look at the “butch attacks.” I think it’s past time for a revival of Lysistrata, myself…

carlosgvv

April 22nd, 2012
7:01 pm

Brosephus

Jesse and Al do, in fact, speak for some of Black America. I never said they speak for all Black America. So I wonder, just exactly what s*is it I’m assuming?
This is far from being just a Christian country. We have Jews, Muslims, Hindus and non-believers. However, in my post, I never said anything about this being a Christian country.
Nor did I say that civil and moral obligations are polar opposites.
Nor did I say black Americans spend all their time talking about white America.
Their is a lot of division in American between Blacks, Whites, Asians, Jews and Hispanics. I do not think it is all the white man’s fault. What I wanted to hear from you is there is probably enough blame to go around for eveyone.
If you don’t agree, fine. It’s not my job to tell you what to believe.

josef

April 22nd, 2012
7:03 pm

“Their is a lot of division in American between Blacks, Whites, Asians, Jews and Hispanics. I do not think it is all the white man’s fault.”

Well, I guess the Hebrew Chirren ARE a race after all…

Oscar

April 22nd, 2012
7:03 pm

All they need to do is find twelve people, plus two alternates, who will say they have no opinions on what happened and whether the defendent is guilty or innocent. They don’t have to be totally without any knowledeg of the case. A lot of people don’t listen to the news or read the paper, and some don’t form conclusion without hearing all the evidence. I think they will try it if anywhere in Sanford.

carlosgvv

April 22nd, 2012
7:05 pm

josef

You seem to hold it together pretty well during the week. However, when Friday evening arrives, you yearn for all of us to hold hands and sing Kumbya. If we don’t, you start to lose it.
I wonder why that is?

Oscar

April 22nd, 2012
7:06 pm

Well, I guess the Hebrew Chirren ARE a race after all…

———————–

How about Hispanics. They were listed too.

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
7:08 pm

matti
it was the invite to kiss
your cute little behind
that deviated my train
of thought..sorry

josef

April 22nd, 2012
7:08 pm

CARLOS

Why? I just like the idea that there can be a time and place where, just for a few hours, we can lay it all aside and take a breather, and share the music we have in common.

OSCAR

Do you know when “Hispanics” became a race in the US of A and why?

Oscar

April 22nd, 2012
7:09 pm

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
7:08 pm
________

I wondered why that was thrown in theeeeere. And how cute is it, anyway?

carlosgvv

April 22nd, 2012
7:10 pm

Brosephus

And, as far as Zimmerman is concerned, he is where he belongs, in jail. If it were up to me, he would not get any bail.
Because of the evidence either lost of tainted due to the amount of time between the shooting and his being jailed, and because of that crazy “stand your ground” law, I think he will probably be found guilty of manslaughter.
Now, if we could only get justice for Ervin Jefferson.

Soul Heaven

April 22nd, 2012
7:11 pm

Oscar

April 22nd, 2012
7:11 pm

Do you know when “Hispanics” became a race in the US of A and why?

__________________

No, I really don’t. And when did we start inventing new races. I thought there were just white, black, asian, American Indian and that race from the south pacific islands.

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
7:12 pm

Oscar
no working knowledge
but you were invited too

Oscar

April 22nd, 2012
7:14 pm

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
7:12 pm
_______________

I need more facts before I can make a decision.

carlosgvv

April 22nd, 2012
7:15 pm

josef – 7:08

That would be nice but, somehow, it just doesn’t take long for the combativeness to take over and then its BIFF BAMM BOOM BOP.

That is a good question about Hispanics. I’m pretty sure they are not a separate race.

josef

April 22nd, 2012
7:15 pm

OSCAR

It came about in Texas following the Brown decision. There wasn’t a term available to counter the previous segregation of “Messicans.” The courts decided that there needed to be a class terminology, so bingo!

josef

April 22nd, 2012
7:17 pm

CARLOS

Which is why I said for a few hours…

Brosephus™

April 22nd, 2012
7:21 pm

Bro, I can only relate to what I see at our church.

Same here. As well as I can only go by what my friends who are preachers tell me as well.

————————

carlos

I never said that you mentioned anything about this being a Christian country. I am, however, sick and damned tired of you and everybody else bringing up Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton as though they are the only two Black voices in this country. If you want a honest open dialogue, you don’t start by kicking sh*t in my face and claiming that’s not what you’re doing.

Their is a lot of division in American between Blacks, Whites, Asians, Jews and Hispanics. I do not think it is all the white man’s fault.

You don’t heal the division by playing the Jesse & Al card everytime there’s mention of race on a subject. That’s the point I’m trying to get across to you.

What I wanted to hear from you is there is probably enough blame to go around for eveyone.

If you’re expecting some kind of moral equivalency, kumba ya moment, then you’re gonna keep waiting for that. Most of this crap starts up because of some stupid comment such as….


carlosgvv
April 22nd, 2012
3:03 pm

Scout

It’s time for Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to step up to the plate and lead demonstrations demanding justice for the Strait family. Of course, it’s also time for pigs to sprout wings and fly.

Until YOU stop doing that kind of sh*t, don’t expect me to take any blame. You don’t have to state that you think they speak for all of Black America. Your sanctimonious bullsh*t speaks for you. If you ever wonder why we don’t see eye to eye in situations like this, re-read your post at 3:03 and ask yourself that question again.

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
7:21 pm

Oscar
A fact finding probative
inquiry is your best option

Oscar

April 22nd, 2012
7:23 pm

josef

April 22nd, 2012
7:15 pm
——————

While waiting for your answer I went to google and read some on the subject.

Looks like people become a race when they get to be a large enough group to either consider themselves to be a separate cultural-ethnic group, or to be considered by the majority as such.

At one point people of spanish descent were consided by the census as white. And the name of the group has changed several times.

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
7:25 pm

josef
do you have to be origin
of a spanish speaking
country or just speak
spanish ?

Oscar

April 22nd, 2012
7:26 pm

The census bureau say they ask people what race or group they identiy with. Should I start writing in “Georgia cracker” That the group I feel I belong to, or “Mountain/Cherokee.”

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
7:27 pm

Is appalachian a race?

josef

April 22nd, 2012
7:28 pm

Carlos

I get a kick out of that category and, just to be EOI, I like to challenge it. Am I one? Well, let’s see. I’m Spanish speaking, but it’s not my “mother” language. Am I Spanish-surnamed? Well, not exactly, but the other three of my grandparents were. I am Sephardic. Does that count?

It’s all somewhat ridiculous. The only “race” in the United States required to “prove it” are the Indians…no CDIB card? Then you ain’t an Indian…no gubmint welfare for you… :-)

Oscar

April 22nd, 2012
7:30 pm

In Missouri they refer to the “Hill Country Folk People” that came to Missouri from Tennessee and North Carolina and mixed with the Germans who were already there, causing ethnic problems.

Sounds better then some other terms I have heard.

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
7:30 pm

I always feel silly calling
myself caucasian. None
of my family is russian.

josef

April 22nd, 2012
7:35 pm

frog

One of the ones that always tickles me is when folks take off on “white” Southerners as being WASPS.
Forty percent claim Indian ancestry, probably a low figure, the ones who ARE white aren’t Anglo Saxons but mostly Celts and the White Anglo Saxons tend to be Anglican Catholics… :-)

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
7:39 pm

josef
i prefer to hijack GRITS
guy raised in the south

Oscar

April 22nd, 2012
7:39 pm

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
7:30 pm
——————–

None of your ancestors were from the Caucasus Mountains. None of mine either, that I know of.

When asked where my people or ancestors came from, I say North Georgia.

Oscar

April 22nd, 2012
7:41 pm

josef

April 22nd, 2012
7:35 pm
_______

you are right. Whoever invented the term WASP was not thinking about southerners.

josef

April 22nd, 2012
7:41 pm

CARLOS

When they ask me, I say how far back do you want to go..,

josef

April 22nd, 2012
7:42 pm

OSCAR

Yankee Sharia don’t like to admit it, but Southerners wrote the book on multi-culturalism.

josef

April 22nd, 2012
7:43 pm

ooops

That 7:41 was supposed to be to OSCAR….

Oscar

April 22nd, 2012
7:47 pm

josef

April 22nd, 2012
7:43 pm
__________

Duly noted.

Oscar

April 22nd, 2012
7:58 pm

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
7:30 pm
I always feel silly calling
myself caucasian. None
of my family is russian
_________________________

According to this guy, it goes back to white slave traffic:

http://www.yale.edu/glc/events/race/Painter.pdf

josef

April 22nd, 2012
8:07 pm

OSCAR
@ 7:58

I’ve got that one marked for a later thorough read…thanks….

Oscar

April 22nd, 2012
8:17 pm

The whole idea of seperating people into races is a pretty disgusting idea.

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April 22nd, 2012
8:17 pm

josef @ 7:42:

Good one !!!

I still say the most bigoted places in the U.S. are up north in those ethnic communities.

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April 22nd, 2012
8:27 pm

Josef

April 22nd, 2012
8:30 pm

Scout

Well, the South does have a 300 year head start on that one…. :-)

getalife

April 22nd, 2012
8:38 pm

My people came off the boat in New York City and was called nasty names.

They laughed and took over New York City thanks to prohibition.

Many still live up North and don’t like rebels.

Josef

April 22nd, 2012
8:38 pm

Okay, a bit of trivial pursuit….

When was the first “interracial marriage” on record in what is today the USA?

Mississippi in the late 1530s when one of de Soto’s men married a Chickasaw woman in Catholic rites…

Josef

April 22nd, 2012
8:39 pm

Getalife

Bless their hearts. :-)

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

April 22nd, 2012
8:44 pm

Well, there sure does seem to be alot of Rascists on this blog all of a sudden. I’m awful glad I’m not one. Truth is, in church on Sunday morning we don’t even think about Those People. They don’t come to the Church of Holiness because they want to be with their own kind. See, those laws back in the 50s and early 60s took that into account.

And while I’m at it, since josef skips over my posts, this seems a good time to say GFY, josef—good for you. Truth is, he reads and writes way too good to know anything about being a Southrener.

Have a good night everybody. I got to be up and at ‘em early tomorrow morning to repair all the shelf wreckage you caused.

getalife

April 22nd, 2012
8:49 pm

Josef,

They don’t like many folks except family and are racists especially towards Italians, Germans and Russians.

They hold a grudge over that WWII thingy so they are kind of like you rebels and the civil war.

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
8:51 pm

getalife
why do they stay where
they are called nasty names?

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April 22nd, 2012
8:53 pm

josef @ 8:38

And as you also know the first court case in the colonies that established the legality of slavery involved a black slave owner !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Casor

Josef

April 22nd, 2012
8:55 pm

Getalife

Given how far back some of those Old World animosities go, the Late Unpleasnatness was just a day ago…

getalife

April 22nd, 2012
8:56 pm

frog,

They came here to make a better living like most immigrants.

They could not understand English so the name calling did not bother them.

Jay

April 22nd, 2012
8:56 pm

“I was talking to some folks from back home. The Georgia, Alabama and Arizona anti-immigrant laws are all the rage. So, where’s the story that Mississippi refused to pass its? It just isn’t news. It’s not sensational enough.”

Josef, when the dog DOESN’T bite someone, it is not news. Unless, of course, you assume the dog was supposed to bite and didn’t.

In this case, it wasn’t a big story that Mississippi didn’t pass it. It also wasn’t news that Massachusetts didn’t pass it, and Oregon didn’t pass it, and Michigan didn’t pass it.

Are you arguing that Mississippi should be judged by a different standard than those other states?

Josef

April 22nd, 2012
8:58 pm

Scout

Anthony was also on the first boat of Africans to arrive in English Colonial North America in 1619, a year before the first Puritans left Plymouth for Plymouth…

Josef

April 22nd, 2012
9:06 pm

Jay

The point, and you know it, is that had Mississippi passed it, it would have been all the news. And I note you didn’t mention what I said about same sex households and mixed marriages. THAT, Pombo, IS news.

But it wasn’t Mississippi that we (the folks) and I were talking about, but that the failure to pass it…the same holds for the other states you mentioned. Why ISN’T that news? That hateful pattern is being reversed. But, hey, that’s good news…

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
9:15 pm

no news is good news thus
good news is not news
unless unexpected.
blood leads.

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
9:19 pm

getalife
when did your family learn
about being called names?

Josef

April 22nd, 2012
9:20 pm

Frog

Not to mention it’s more fun to sling sh*t. :-)

Fred ™

April 22nd, 2012
9:20 pm

carlosgvv

April 22nd, 2012
4:25 pm

Fred – 3:40

From the mid 50’s till now there has been a constant drumbeat from the black community for civil rights. In all this time, never once have I heard any civil rights leader ever speak about CIVIL RESPONSIBILITY. As for the Travon Martin case, civil rights leaders protested vigorously for the arrest of Zimmerman. If Travon’s shooter had been black, we would not have heard a peep out of them. Scout’s point, the arrest not withstanding, is that there is a serious double-standard in this country when it comes to black on black crime and white on black crime.
Get off your high horse, stop insulting us about lack of basic mental capacity, and maybe you will start to understand the situation.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Well carl, I suggest you listen to the speech I link below, the WHOLE speech. As Jay said earlier, you must not have been listening. Or if you were then you are lying. THE most prominent Civil rights leader spoke on such a subject 2 months and 1 day before my birth. It’s really his most famous speech so I’m puzzled as to how you could have missed it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_YBplucfuk

Fred ™

April 22nd, 2012
9:25 pm

Oh and Jay? Thanks for taking up the “good fight.” I was just so disgusted I posted and left. I had purchased some good old Louisiana LIVE craw fish that were begging me to boil them up the old fashioned Cajun way. I ever get a chance, I do you up a mess. Southern Seafood on lawrenceville HWY (US29) has them now that they are in season. Jump quick, just a few more weeks left…….

Josef

April 22nd, 2012
9:27 pm

Many moons ago the local paper devoted a page to “and the good news is…”. Editing it was not easy. Not because of lack of copy, but the opposite, I’d say it might be a good idea to go back to that

getalife

April 22nd, 2012
9:29 pm

frog,

When they learned English.

Josef

April 22nd, 2012
9:32 pm

Fred ™

April 22nd, 2012
9:33 pm

I know it’s a pipe dream but…………

It would be fun on a Sunday night, with no topic since the FNM to sit around and shoot the sht with the other posters. No disagreements, no bullsht politics lies, just, ‘Hey how was your week or weekend sort of stuff. The “damn Braves lost tonight snapping that 6 game winning streak (or was it 5).” “I went to the Dogwood festival. Some drunk chick with green teeth puked on the grass.” That sort of stuff………

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April 22nd, 2012
9:38 pm

Be thankful you live in Georgia !

West Virginia and Pennsylvania may get a foot of snow. With the trees already full of leaves up there ………… it will be one big mess !

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April 22nd, 2012
9:41 pm

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
9:43 pm

getalife
when they learned english
and knew they were being
called names do know why
they stayed?

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April 22nd, 2012
9:52 pm

Fred:

If you want to debate something fine. If you don’t then just ignore my posts.

I try not to engage in personal attacks of other posters and I don’t ever recall attacking you but if I did I apologize.

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
9:53 pm

Fred™
If you think Scout is wrong
just say so, don’t be bashful.

getalife

April 22nd, 2012
9:54 pm

frog,

To make more millions.

Fred ™

April 22nd, 2012
9:54 pm

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April 22nd, 2012
5:37 pm

JAY:

“And Fred, I agree with you. The suggestion of equivalence between those two cases is ludicrous and ignorant. What on earth does a tragic killing in Oklahoma have to do with a case in Florida?”

My point was, the President of the United States should keep his mouth shut about both until the legal process has taken its full course ! I guess you were unable to grasp that.

And I submit that your biased hypocrisy day after day is what is ludicrous and ignorant.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

And I would suggest that your blind and irrational hatred of Barak Obama is just plain weird. I don;t care that it’s fueled by your 24/7 diet of right wing talk radio, you are SMARTER than this.

It’s just sick dude. Really. The ONLY reason you are doing this immoral illogical rant about Trayvon is because President Obama said something about it and Rushie decided to make it a “talking point.” Other than that, the MAN inside you would come to the fore front and kick the “mindless sheep of you that is being an asshat” in the ass. I don’t get it. I don’t want to get it.

Ever see “A few good men?” Remember at the end what Lance Corporal Dawson told the dumb Private? If not look it up. Live it. It’s the very core of the Treyvon Martin case.

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
9:55 pm

getalife
I understand. Money trumps
discrimination.

Fred ™

April 22nd, 2012
9:59 pm

Scout: (ie 9:52) I’m not “attacking you.” Your whole position is so illogical that it defies my reason. I really DO want to know if you are losing your marbles. I see so many posts from you that indicate you ARE an honorable man that when I read this stupid stuff you post about Treyvon it puzzles me. I can’t explain it better than that.

You were a Marine. Semper Fidelis. It’s more than that. How can you POSSIBLY support the stalking and shooting of an unarmed teenager, a BOY a CHILD? Look at the sht you have written to “support” your support of this heinous crime against humanity.

What the hell am I SUPPOSED to think? Where you one who went into a village and shot dinks just because they were dinks? If so you need say anything else, I have the measure of you as a man. If not then how do you support your current behavior on the Treyvon Martin thing?

Fred ™

April 22nd, 2012
10:00 pm

barking frog: I’m trying to work around my proclivity towards understatement and get to that point. Bear with me please.

getalife

April 22nd, 2012
10:24 pm

Frog,

This country has been great to my people and they love this country.

Money trumps everything in the 21 st century.

barking frog

April 22nd, 2012
10:47 pm

getalife
I agree.

getalife

April 22nd, 2012
11:00 pm

Unity is the key to change.

St Simons - he-ne-hah

April 22nd, 2012
11:05 pm

you can Hope for whatever you want
but Change is coming
oh yes it is

Oscar

April 22nd, 2012
11:16 pm

Change has always been coming and taking place. Working through it is painfual and leaves scars. And dead people.

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April 22nd, 2012
11:25 pm

Fred:

I am sorry to tell you this but many disagree with you. And if a judge, jury or future appellate court also disagree with you what then?

Are we a nation of laws or a nation of “Fred” ?

“Professor Alan Dershowitz of Harvard Law School is already on the record opining that the arrest affidavit filed against George Zimmerman for the alleged second-degree murder of Trayvon Martin is “so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second-degree murder charge … everything in the affidavit is completely consistent with a defense of self-defense.”

Read more on Newsmax.com: Dershowitz Questions Conduct, Ethics of Zimmerman Prosecutors
Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama’s Re-Election? Vote Here Now!

Have a nice sleep. TAPS .

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April 22nd, 2012
11:37 pm

Fred:

Sorry, here’s the article if you choose to read it. Warning …….. due to your emotional sensitivity it may set you off:

http://www.newsmax.com/US/Trayvon-Martin-Zimmerman-killing/2012/04/20/id/436616

Oscar

April 22nd, 2012
11:47 pm

getalife

April 22nd, 2012
10:24 pm
Frog,

This country has been great to my people and they love this country.

Money trumps everything in the 21 st century.

____________

Money does not trump everthing. The fact that Zimmerman was arrested and will be tried in spite of the lack of any evidence is proof that there are pressures that can be brought by public opinion that is more powerful than money, or integrity of office.

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6:23 am

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