Rock ‘n roll heaven a little more crowded
According to the Sunday Times of London, organizers of the 2012 Summer Olympics approached the manager of Keith Moon recently to ask if the Who drummer would be available to play as part of the closing ceremonies in this year’s games.
The manager replied that unfortunately, Keith was booked at another venue and would be unable to appear.
Keith will now have to share that gig with another famous rock drummer, the great Levon Helm of The Band, who died this week after a long fight with throat cancer. Helm, an Arkansas boy who never lost touch with his roots, played a central role in American rock history in the ’60s and ’70s.
And then, of course, there was the passing of America’s oldest living teenager, Dick Clark, longtime host of American Bandstand. Clark, too, played a critical role in the development of rock and roll, helping to convert it from a dangerous, rebellious form of music to a mainstream business opportunity. To Clark’s credit, he performed that function without ever seeming to lose respect for what that music really was. He was rock’s ambassador to mainstream American culture.
I thought for a while about how to mark the passing of both Helm and Clark. The most obvious way would have been to post an appearance by The Band on American Bandstand, but I’m quite sure without even researching the question that such a thing never happened. Let’s just say that Clark and Helm moved in different circles.
So, as a compromise, we turn to the Righteous Brothers:
– Jay Bookman
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Mick
April 22nd, 2012
12:12 am
Back to heaven-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1E5XPzBSBY
Mick
April 22nd, 2012
12:24 am
Back to earth…..or not! My girl just sends me…bubblegum foolish-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcSTMNydeBQ
Nite all….See you on the flip side…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
April 22nd, 2012
12:28 am
Mick:
There’s always that 10% ……………………
)
TAPS !
Test
April 22nd, 2012
11:36 am
test
getalife
April 22nd, 2012
12:39 pm
Alec makes the headline of the NyTimes.
I would like to see pols heads roll like the Secret Service on this corruption.
Fair is fair.
getalife
April 22nd, 2012
1:26 pm
Looks like the cons surrendered on this blog.
paulo 977
April 22nd, 2012
2:41 pm
getalife…I would like to see pols heads roll like the Secret Service on this corruption.
__________________________________________________
We aren’t that naive to believe that this has never happened before !!! Another ploy to pin responsibility
on Obama …. Give us a break!!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
April 22nd, 2012
2:48 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
April 22nd, 2012
2:49 pm
P.S.
Has President Obama said anything about the above article yet ??
“In Oklahoma last Tuesday, Bob and Nancy Strait, who had been married
for 65 years, had their home broken into by a black teenager (Tyrone
Woodfork). They were unarmed except for a BB gun. The teenager beat and raped the
85 year old Nancy Strait to death. Her husband, a veteran of the 101st
Airborne in WW2, is in the hospital struggling to make it.”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
April 22nd, 2012
2:57 pm
I think the suspect looks like his son.
carlosgvv
April 22nd, 2012
3:03 pm
Scout
It’s time for Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to step up to the plate and lead demonstrations demanding justice for the Strait family. Of course, it’s also time for pigs to sprout wings and fly.
getalife
April 22nd, 2012
3:08 pm
It is great to see accountability in government for a change.
The Secret Service heads will roll so when pols get nailed on corruption, they should go too.
Just to be fair and balanced.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
April 22nd, 2012
3:23 pm
carlosgvv:
Thank you. That’s why I posted it.
The hypocrisy is beyond measure.
Fred ™
April 22nd, 2012
3:38 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
April 22nd, 2012
2:49 pm
P.S.
Has President Obama said anything about the above article yet ??
“In Oklahoma last Tuesday, Bob and Nancy Strait, who had been married
for 65 years, had their home broken into by a black teenager (Tyrone
Woodfork). They were unarmed except for a BB gun. The teenager beat and raped the
85 year old Nancy Strait to death. Her husband, a veteran of the 101st
Airborne in WW2, is in the hospital struggling to make it.”
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Jesus scout, that is stupid even for you. WHat is your point? Presdient Obama is supposed to speak up about every crime in America? Or just every murders? There was something like 19,000 murders last year in the US. Was he supposed to investigate them all? I thought he was the President not a homicide detective……….
Fred ™
April 22nd, 2012
3:40 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
April 22nd, 2012
3:23 pm
carlosgvv:
Thank you. That’s why I posted it.
The hypocrisy is beyond measure.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
What hypocrisy? The idiot kid who did it sits in jail. What’s your damn point? Are you REALLY trying to compare this to Treyvon’s case? Really? If so then you lack the basic mental capacity for me to be able to hold an intelligent conversation with. If that’s the case, then you are WAY shot out…………. you aren’t even in the right grid square……..
getalife
April 22nd, 2012
3:57 pm
“People don’t know Mitt Romney very well,” he said on CNN. “They see a businessman. They hope he has new ideas. When they find out what his ideas are, slashing taxes at the top for the very wealthy … they’re going to think, ‘This is very familiar. We’ve tried this. This was a big failure.’”
Axelrod said Romney’s campaign for the Republican nomination had been a negative one, based on attacking his opponents rather than spelling out ideas.
“When he does, I think people are going to judge them for what they are, which is backward-looking and a repeat of what got us into this mess in the first place,” he added.” Aol.
Reality.
Oscar
April 22nd, 2012
4:04 pm
Back to music:
http://blogs.ajc.com/kyle-wingfield/2012/04/20/a-left-wing-temper-tantrum-to-short-circuit-elections-and-their-consequences/?cp=6#comment-109500
Oscar
April 22nd, 2012
4:05 pm
When he does,
________
When he does, people are going to realize he is a not with a character disorder.
barking frog
April 22nd, 2012
4:06 pm
In this country, If an intruder invades your
home, business, or
vehicle and you harm
or kill the invader, you
must prove you could
not retreat and the
invader intended to
do you more harm than
you did to him. If unable
to prove this you face
criminal and civil suits.
Stand your ground laws
attempt to stop this.
Oscar
April 22nd, 2012
4:16 pm
Part of the applicable Florida statute:
776.041Use of force by aggressor.—The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
(1)Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
(2)Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
(a)Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
(b)In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate…
pogo
April 22nd, 2012
4:16 pm
In our society, if people don’t defend themselves, who will? The answer? Nobody.
getalife
April 22nd, 2012
4:17 pm
frog,
That law was written by cowardly pols scared of a fight.
getalife
April 22nd, 2012
4:19 pm
Why do you ignore the order the government official telling him not to follow an innocent unarmed man?
The jury will not ignore this fact.
Jay
April 22nd, 2012
4:24 pm
Incorrect, barking. “Stand your ground” laws apply outside the home, business, etc. The ability to defend your home, business and self was already well-established.
And Fred, I agree with you. The suggestion of equivalence between those two cases is ludicrous and ignorant. What on earth does a tragic killing in Oklahoma have to do with a case in Florida?
carlosgvv
April 22nd, 2012
4:25 pm
Fred – 3:40
From the mid 50’s till now there has been a constant drumbeat from the black community for civil rights. In all this time, never once have I heard any civil rights leader ever speak about CIVIL RESPONSIBILITY. As for the Travon Martin case, civil rights leaders protested vigorously for the arrest of Zimmerman. If Travon’s shooter had been black, we would not have heard a peep out of them. Scout’s point, the arrest not withstanding, is that there is a serious double-standard in this country when it comes to black on black crime and white on black crime.
Get off your high horse, stop insulting us about lack of basic mental capacity, and maybe you will start to understand the situation.
JamVet
April 22nd, 2012
4:25 pm
For the racially obsessed here…
On December 23, 2011, my goddaughter, Jasmine Thar, a 16-year-old African American, was shot and killed while in my mother’s front yard in Chadbourn, North Carolina.
When the shot rang out, Jasmine was preparing for a routine shopping trip and doing what most teens do—texting. Two others, my niece and myself, were also injured in the shooting.
The 23-year-old Caucasian male who fired the fatal shot from the house across the street was taken in for questioning, but he has not been charged with a crime of any kind.
Because he claims it was an accident, the police let him go—despite the fact that he admits he fired the shot and police found a Confederate flag and Nazi literature in his home.
The message being sent is that you can shoot and kill someone like Jasmine and get away with it by simply claiming it was an accident.
Wonder why the corporal forgot about telling us repeatedly about this killing?
Things that make you go hmmm…
barking frog
April 22nd, 2012
4:25 pm
getalife,
no. it was written by pols
responding to their
constituents desire to
be rid of being forced to
run from creeps or face
prosecution or lawsuits.
Jay
April 22nd, 2012
4:27 pm
In all this time, never once have I heard any civil rights leader ever speak about CIVIL RESPONSIBILITY.
Then you are deaf. That is the only possible explanation for that statement being true.
getalife
April 22nd, 2012
4:30 pm
They won and he was arrested..
I think he will cop a plea for a lesser charge .
barking frog
April 22nd, 2012
4:33 pm
Stand your ground so far
has nothing to do with the
Martin case.
carlosgvv
April 22nd, 2012
4:36 pm
Jay – 4:47
No, I am not deaf. I have been reading the newspapers and magazines like Time and Newsweek and watching the evening news for a great many years now. There has been a constant civil rights mantra coming from the black communtiy. There has NOT been a similar thing about civil responsiblility. Ask all your other bloggers here what they think about this, if you dare.
JamVet
April 22nd, 2012
4:36 pm
Jay, there is one other possibility…
http://tinyurl.com/74n68fp
getalife
April 22nd, 2012
4:37 pm
frog,
Yes, because he was told not to follow him.
Guilty as charged.
Jay
April 22nd, 2012
4:42 pm
Carlos, it’s a message preached from black pulpits in churches across the country every week. Here’s Jesse Jackson as far back as 1994 saying the same thing:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1665&dat=19940104&id=24RPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RSUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6828,1089740
What you’re arguing is ridiculous. You reveal what YOU hear, which has nothing to do with what others actually say.
JamVet
April 22nd, 2012
4:42 pm
Speakers called participants to “settle disputes, overcome conflicts, put aside grudges and hatreds” and unite in an effort to create a productive and supportive black community that fosters in each person the ability to “seek the good, find it, embrace it, and build on it.” Finally, the leaders of the March challenged participants and their families at home to “expand [our] commitment to responsibility in personal conduct…and in obligations to the community”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Million_Man_March
barking frog
April 22nd, 2012
4:47 pm
getalife,
once the police were called
it was their ballgame and
zimmerman was not
standing his ground but
that does not mean he
is guilty thus the trial.
barking frog
April 22nd, 2012
4:49 pm
Stand your ground has
nothing to do with race.
Brosephus™
April 22nd, 2012
4:54 pm
It’s time for Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to step up to the plate and lead demonstrations demanding justice for the Strait family.
Wrong. It’s time for the Strait family to start their own outcry. Contrary to popular White opinion, Jesse and Al don’t go around starting things. They’re usually asked to come in by the family, or they jump aboard something already in progress. I’ll be glad when y’all White folks actually pay attention to something instead of imagining sh*t.
————————–
JamVet
Funny that I had not heard of that shooting in NC. My in-laws are from Chadbourn, and I was in that area right around that time last year. Gotta go back and ask my mother-in-law about that one. I was up there twice in December, and the 2nd time would have been right around that time. From what I’ve read so far, there were three people hit by a single shot, and she was the only one that did not survive.
getalife
April 22nd, 2012
4:59 pm
“once the police were called
it was their ballgame.”
Exactly but he followed and the kid is gone.
I watched another case where a vet was killed over a kid skateboarding in a park.
Just a stupid law.
barking frog
April 22nd, 2012
5:00 pm
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0776/0776.html
———–+————————/
here is the statute in
Florida. Hurt someone
invading your.home and
prepare for a lot of legal
expense and some time
in jail especially if you
shoot.
carlosgvv
April 22nd, 2012
5:00 pm
Jay – 4:42
And yet, the message of civil rights is preached by civil rights leaders to the country as a whole, and not just in black churches. For years now the white community has been lectured vigorously about the need for civil rights. Since I don’t go to a black church, and I’ll bet you don’t either, neither of us can say, with accuracy,that civil responsibility is “a message preached from black churches across the country every week”. And, while I’m thinking about it, I don’t recall a black civil responsibility march on Washington D.C. Do you?
Jay
April 22nd, 2012
5:02 pm
You’ve got those jet-fueled goal posts working like a charm, don’t you, Carlos…
That’s good, because you need them to defend a post like that.
carlosgvv
April 22nd, 2012
5:07 pm
Jay – 5:02
For all practical purposes, that is a non sequitur.
Jay
April 22nd, 2012
5:08 pm
Furthermore, Carlos, you seem to believe that the justice system is somehow failing the Strait family in their tragedy.
How?
And please, explain how the Strait tragedy has ANYTHING to do with the Trayvon Martin case.
getalife
April 22nd, 2012
5:08 pm
carlos,
Do you think other American having to fight for their civil rights in this country is appropriate in the 21 century?
Do you have no shame.
cons are no better than any Americans.
As a matter of fact, this President showed you cons true colors.
Who gives you the right to discriminate against other Americans?
barking frog
April 22nd, 2012
5:12 pm
JamVet,
the NC case you mention
as explained will be at
least negligent homicide
but unlike t.v. real life
homicide cases are not
all solved in 30-60 minutes
and there is no statute of
limitations on murder
unless a charged
acquittal occurs.
Jay
April 22nd, 2012
5:13 pm
Who said this, Carlos:
“We have to be just as aggressive, just as hard
on ourselves as we are on others. In fact, the
only way we can have the moral authority
to challenge others is if we first challenge
ourselves. We have to be just as vocal about
those who use racism as an excuse for failure as
we are about the individuals and system that
use racism to knock us down. We must take
responsibility for ourselves. In a lot of ways we
have become our own worst enemy.”
Your answer?
Al Sharpton.
He and others are not responsible for what you do not choose to hear.
carlosgvv
April 22nd, 2012
5:13 pm
Brosephus – 4:54
I find myself in agreement with you on almost every issue except ones like this. Then, the polarization sets in. I will venture to guess that if you have a large number of black and white friends, then you know this better than I do. Putting aside who is right and who is wrong, I wonder if this kind of division will ever disappear in America?
josef
April 22nd, 2012
5:16 pm
Good L-rd, G-d Allm-ghty! Why do I feel like I’ve been time-warped back to the 1960s?
Right, left and center here all y’all seem to be doing is adding your own little matchsticks to the burning embers. It’s like you’re pining for a full-scale conflageration and won’t rest till you get it. Seriously.
carlosgvv
April 22nd, 2012
5:18 pm
Jay – 5:13
My answer? Who did he say this to? When did he say it? Does he say this publicly as often as he calls publicly for civil rights? If he said this in a black church, you will pardon me if I did not hear it.
I keep up with the news and what people say as best an I can. I do not choose not to hear.
josef
April 22nd, 2012
5:19 pm
When will this division disappear? When our generation is dead and gone to our reward. When black and white get it through their thick, numb skulls that there’s plenty out there that’s neither black nor white and are not being listened to. Both need to shut the f up and listen to what the others are saying. They might learn a little something about themselves and how bloody much alike they are.
carlosgvv
April 22nd, 2012
5:20 pm
josef
Jay is like a cat with his back arched and I am in no mood to back down either.
josef
April 22nd, 2012
5:22 pm
Carlos
And you’re both as full of sh*t as a Christmas turkey. Just out to pick a fight.
barking frog
April 22nd, 2012
5:22 pm
ahh josef, i just couldn’t
do the bigoted burning
embers joke but it would
be funny..
Jay
April 22nd, 2012
5:23 pm
Carlos, that came from Sharpton’s autobiography.
And Josef, you’d prefer not to talk about it, right?
Well, not talking about it doesn’t mean it goes away. Your study of history ought to confirm that.
getalife
April 22nd, 2012
5:25 pm
“When will this division disappear?”
Never, because whites will lose the majority.
Then what will happen?
Will the new majority discriminate back?
Probably.
Jay
April 22nd, 2012
5:26 pm
Should we not talk about the existence of anti-Semitism too, Josef?
JamVet
April 22nd, 2012
5:28 pm
Good L-rd, G-d Allm-ghty! Why do I feel like I’ve been time-warped back to the 1960s?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCRLZwUrWr4&feature=player_embedded
Jay
April 22nd, 2012
5:30 pm
I don’t care whether you’re in the mood to back down, Carlos. Doesn’t matter a whit.
You wrote:
“From the mid 50’s till now there has been a constant drumbeat from the black community for civil rights. In all this time, never once have I heard any civil rights leader ever speak about CIVIL RESPONSIBILITY.”
And you have been given multiple examples of what you claim to have never heard, and there are many many thousands more.
josef
April 22nd, 2012
5:30 pm
JAY
Talk about it? About what? Like I said, this is black folk and white folk, liberals and conservatives yapping in a paradigm befitting the middle of the last century. Get with the new world before it utterly passes you by.
I was reading an article on the French election being a nostalgia for the last century. They’re not the only ones.
I would welcome the chance to talk about “it.” But, and I’m not trying to be an uppity ass here, but what I have to say about “it” IS from the study of history, and that history begins in our cultural milieu in Mesopotamia and comes forward at least four millenia. It’s pretty hard to discuss “it” with folks who have no further view than a couple of hundred years at best.
As Brosephus and I say to each other…Gibbon.
Jay
April 22nd, 2012
5:33 pm
As MLK wrote in Letter From Birmingham Jail:
“… we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.”
Jay
April 22nd, 2012
5:36 pm
I hate to abandon this interesting and potentially productive discussion, but … a dinner engagement beckons.
Stay cool, y’all.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
April 22nd, 2012
5:37 pm
JAY:
“And Fred, I agree with you. The suggestion of equivalence between those two cases is ludicrous and ignorant. What on earth does a tragic killing in Oklahoma have to do with a case in Florida?”
My point was, the President of the United States should keep his mouth shut about both until the legal process has taken its full course ! I guess you were unable to grasp that.
And I submit that your biased hypocrisy day after day is what is ludicrous and ignorant.
But ………. since it’s your blog have at it. It gives me some good laughs.
P.S. to carlosgvv
Take the point. I’ll be back in about three hours.
josef
April 22nd, 2012
5:38 pm
JAY
We should, but we don’t. But it’s not Anti-Semitism we should be talking about, but anti-, the Semitism is but one small part of that. We’ve heard from the Jews, the Blacks and the Whites…what about the American Indians, the Romany, the Tutsi, the Kurds, the Tibetans, the powderkeg about to blow sky high in Syria? Those are “it,” too.
Brosephus™
April 22nd, 2012
5:41 pm
carlos: Putting aside who is right and who is wrong, I wonder if this kind of division will ever disappear in America?
As long as you and others keep kicking sand and dirt into the faces of other Americans, yeah, this division is not disappearing anytime soon. If you want it to disappear, then you have to act like it and not just talk like it. Do you not realize that every single damn time you and others break out your patented “Jesse” and “Al” cards, that’s exactly what you do? You stir up unnecessary sh*t.
Jesse and Al do not speak for Black America. They speak for Jesse, Al, and whomever else designates them to do so. The Martin family designated them. They don’t speak for those who don’t ask them to speak for them. So, if you want the division to disappear, quit antagonizing it by assuming sh*t that is not true. If you want to know what’s going on in the Black community or the Black church, come hang with me. You can find out first hand what’s going on without the need to assume. Contrary to what you think, the Black church conversation generally revolves around G*d, Jesus, and salvation. Is that not what church is for anyway?
Oscar
April 22nd, 2012
5:41 pm
Seems appropriate here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g&feature=relmfu
josef
April 22nd, 2012
5:42 pm
ZamVet
Okay-dokay…now, where’s the one from the Rez? Where’s the one from the Romany ghettoes? Where’s the one from the Kentucky hollows? What do they all have in common?
josef
April 22nd, 2012
5:44 pm
OSCAR
True, that.
pogo
April 22nd, 2012
5:47 pm
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/mzuckerman/articles/2012/04/20/mort-zuckerman-president-obamas-economic-programs-have-failed?page=3
The undoing (or, the revealing of it, if you will) of the Obama administration. The whole image of Obama was built upon nothing but fairy dust and unicorn glitter in the first place. In another age it would have been called “hot air”. In three years scores of young people have graduated from very expensive schools only to find there are no jobs from them. They are, to say the very least, disallusioned with Obama.
carlosgvv
April 22nd, 2012
5:50 pm
Brosephus – 5:41
That’s not the answer I was looking for.
According to Jay, the topic of civil responsibility is heard “every week” in black churches, not God, Jesus and salvation.
josef
April 22nd, 2012
5:54 pm
Brosephus
Don’t forget the building committee report!
barking frog
April 22nd, 2012
5:57 pm
well well everyone running
from the truth..
The truth, you can’t handle
the truth. -a few good men
josef
April 22nd, 2012
6:00 pm
FROG
And that’s it in a nutshell.
barking frog
April 22nd, 2012
6:08 pm
josef
and it appears the media
are highly allergic to the
truth as they avoid it at
all times.
Brosephus™
April 22nd, 2012
6:09 pm
carlos
As many suggest, this is a Christian country. When one lives as a true Christian, then one also lives by civil responsibilities. Civil and moral obligations are not polar opposites to Christian principles. I don’t really care what you wanted to hear. If you’re that curious, then visit a Black church and find out for yourself. Black Americans don’t spend all their time talking about White America.
Brosephus™
April 22nd, 2012
6:11 pm
josef
I haven’t found one yet without that fund or committee.
Recon 0311 2533
April 22nd, 2012
6:12 pm
I see where the tragic case of Travon Martin is back on the blog. The irony might be that the bail hearing of George Zimmerman could prove to be the unraveling of the prosecutions second degree murder case against Zimmerman. The lead detective may have blown it by the defense attorney’s questioning. This might turn out to be a case of negligent homicide. I was surprised to see Zimmerman as a slightly built man who appeared afraid and apologetic on the stand. It doesn’t excuse this case entirely but the usual standard of ABILITY, OPPORTUNITY and JEOPARDY might excuse Zimmerman on the first two considerations but hold him guilty on the last consideration of JEOPARDY. He wasn’t in JEOPARDY for his life because he was armed as a private citizen and following Martin. I still wonder why the Sanford police were so slow in arriving at the scene before this tragic event unfolded.
josef
April 22nd, 2012
6:15 pm
Frog
The media are a lot more “responsible” than they’d ever like to admit. Sensationalism sells and gets the Pulitzers.
I was talking to some folks from back home. The Georgia, Alabama and Arizona anti-immigrant laws are all the rage. So, where’s the story that Mississippi refused to pass its? It just isn’t news. It’s not sensational enough.
I brought up to al Shariff the findings of the census on the composition of the American family. This is the first time we are able to come up with ZamVet’s much heralded data relative to same sex households and children. Guess what? Mississippi and Florida, among other Southern states, are heads and shoulders above the rest of the country in the number. When it comes to mixed race marriages, same thing. But…but…that’s not “news…” Coulda fooled me.
josef
April 22nd, 2012
6:18 pm
Brosephus
That’s what gets me. Folks yapping about what goes on in the Black Church obviously have not been in one in a while. The same thing that goes on in the White (Brown, Yellow or Red) Church, synagogue, temple or mosque.
Brosephus™
April 22nd, 2012
6:19 pm
Recon
Based on the reports and 911 tapes, the Sanford PD was there within a minute or two after the trigger was pulled.
Brosephus™
April 22nd, 2012
6:24 pm
josef
True. The 10am-12pm time period on Sunday is still the most segregated time in the US.
Recon 0311 2533
April 22nd, 2012
6:26 pm
Brosephus,
After the trigger was pulled. Sanford is not a big town and there was a lot of 911 dialogue recorded over what seemed to be several minutes that could have had police in the community sooner but this is only a supposition on my part.
josef
April 22nd, 2012
6:28 pm
Jay
April 22nd, 2012
5:26 pm
Should we not talk about the existence of anti-Semitism too, Josef?
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Okay, let’s go there, Imam. Should we talk about “it” in terms of the black-white dichotomy you seem to be mired in? No. Should we talk about it in terms of the anti-Islamic situation? By all means.
That is, of course, unless you want to insist that the Hebrew Chirren are “a race.”
josef
April 22nd, 2012
6:30 pm
BROSEPHUS
It is that. And the irony of it is that it’s the two hours when the segregated have the most in common.
Recon 0311 2533
April 22nd, 2012
6:30 pm
“True. The 10am-12pm time period on Sunday is still the most segregated time in the US.”
A lot of Blacks, Asians and Hispanics in our church this morning as there is most Sunday mornings.
Matti
April 22nd, 2012
6:34 pm
Oh, what the heck. Since we’re all PMS-ing today, I’ll throw mine in the mix:
Rampant misogyny on the personal and institutional levels, and double standards cross all racial, cultural, religious, and socioeconomic boundaries. How much are we loving the renewed fundamentalist fist grabbing the back of collective womanhood’s hair, shoving her head down…again? Exciting times we live in, huh?
All y’all can just kiss my cute little behind. Have a nice evening now, y’hear?
josef
April 22nd, 2012
6:35 pm
DEL
“A lot of Blacks, Asians and Hispanics in our church this morning as there is most Sunday mornings”
Don’t take this the wrong way, please, but why “our?” If “they” are there, is it at “your” sufferance or tolerance? And, again, not being snippy, but percentage wise in relation to their relative proportion of the local community? And, again, don’t misunderstand, but when we’re talking about segregation, it’s not just the white congregation that is segregated, but the black, brown, red and yellow, too.
Brosephus™
April 22nd, 2012
6:35 pm
Recon
Based on the initial report, the first officer was likely already in the neighborhood when the shot was fired. The time listed on the report is the same as the time of the 911 calls. It could be bad paperwork, but that is also supported by at least one of the 911 calls. One person calling in to report the shot talked about seeing flashlights within the first minute of the call. The second officer that responded also mentioned things in his accounting that would make it seem like they were there within a min or two of the shooting.
I’m going off of what I read from their reports and what I heard on the 911 tapes. I don’t think there has been a definite timeline put out with all the events on a single timeline though.
barking frog
April 22nd, 2012
6:37 pm
wow matti
painting with a broad bush
today..
josef
April 22nd, 2012
6:37 pm
matti,
Yep.
josef
April 22nd, 2012
6:38 pm
Frog
In matti’s defense, at least she admits it.
barking frog
April 22nd, 2012
6:39 pm
my 637
bush should be brush.
josef
April 22nd, 2012
6:42 pm
Frog
Blush…
Recon 0311 2533
April 22nd, 2012
6:42 pm
josef,
I’ve never taken a headcount or calculated percentages but we have regular attenders and I would presume church members from the minority community in the church on Sunday mornings. One of the soloists from the choir is Black. The majority though of attendees are white folks.
Matti
April 22nd, 2012
6:43 pm
… and barking frog jumps right in to “accidentally” prove my point.
Brosephus™
April 22nd, 2012
6:43 pm
A lot of Blacks, Asians and Hispanics in our church this morning as there is most Sunday mornings.
One church does not negate the segregation of thousands of other churches. I’ve even heard religious leaders state the same thing about Sunday morning segregation.
josef
April 22nd, 2012
6:45 pm
DEL
And I would say that you haven’t done a head count is a good thing. See, I felt guilty of the same “sin” when I brought the matter up to begin with.
Recon 0311 2533
April 22nd, 2012
6:47 pm
Brosephus,
Like I indicated I don’t really know but if this goes to trial in the absence of a plea bargain, I’m sure it will come out from one side or the other. I’m certain of one thing though and that is that Zimmerman will be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life.
josef
April 22nd, 2012
6:48 pm
matti
Still here? I thought you were just being a sniper tonight, ready for a full frontal assault in the WOW? Maybe it’s time for some siege tactics, eh?
kayaker 71
April 22nd, 2012
6:50 pm
Recon, 6:47,
There is not enough hard evidence to even bring this to trial. And with the media blitz since the shooting, how are you going to find a jury to sit the case?