Big Brother is here, and We are Him

Character means always paying your hooker. Kindness is including a generous tip.

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First, good points.

Second, no Secret Service agent should be allowed to have a Facebook page. What an idiot.

Third, why are some people able to capitalize on this kind of exposure, and others are ostracized?

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I do not like big brother. I think it impinges freedom (PC response).

Screw this. (non-PC response)

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Go elsewhere. America is over.

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I’m a little confused about why they are all in trouble. From what I understand, prostitution is legal in Columbia. So if they didn’t break any laws, what are the grounds for disciplinary action? Maybe the two guys who were arguing with the hooker were breaking a law by refusing to pay for services. But I’ve heard numbers like 11 Secret Service agents and 10 military personnel. What is the justification for disciplining the others? Did they put lap dances on their government credit cards or something?

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“Jay
April 20th, 2012
11:04 am

Mick, I didn’t get into it in the piece above, but I’d say the lack of consequences for repeated outright deception and lies fits into the narrative as as well.”

I’d say the fact that jay still has a job is certainly evidence of this.

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And how will this play out in the election with a nominee who has made it clear he will claim he never said all those things that he already said?

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I don’t usually use hookers but when I do I use Columbian hookers.

Pay them my friends.

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The hooker did break a cardinal rule…..always get your money up front.

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Crank – They violated policies and procedures. And it’s a poor refelction upon the Secret Service.

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And it’s a poor refelction upon the Secret Service. ya think?

Dining-and-dashing on a hooker should be a codified breach of the SS code of conduct.

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“every utterance and act of our political leaders, sports figures and entertainers become fodder for gossip, exaggeration and distortion”

Yep….certainly is, especially here. Of course, the amount and type of exaggeration or distortion applied depends heavily on ideology.

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I was yammering downstairs about people’s unrealistic expectations playing a role in why they seem so dispirited about so many institutions. I just stumbled upon this…

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/04/are-lawmakers-asking-too-much-of-our-schools/256108/?google_editors_picks=true

and I think it kinda fits into the themes Jay’s exploring today.

a superintendent provided this list to show how it all adds up. By law, his schools must: provide oral health instruction; give students information about organ donation; set-up anti-bullying policies; ensure that children say the Pledge of Allegiance; make sure that social studies classes celebrate Freedom Week; organize parent involvement committees at every school; set up committees on employee policies; set up school and district committees on “closing the gap”; arrange for bus drivers and other employees to have two paid breaks; see that each teacher has a specified amount of money to spend on classroom supplies; and include the body mass index of each child on his or her report card. As he wrapped up the list, the superintendent added this parting shot: “Oh, by the way, remember No Child Left Behind!” From the same study, 93 percent of superintendents and 88 percent of principals related that their district has experienced “an enormous increase in responsibilities and mandates without getting the resources necessary to fulfill them.”

Most laws in education and elsewhere reflect lawmakers’ and the public’s hopes and good intentions. Health and safety education, consumer education, financial literacy, and promoting patriotism and love of country are all good things — but are we right in asking public schools to absorb them? The impact at the end of the day can be to take away from schools’ underlying goal: teaching kids.

I’m not going to play (say) Sarah Palin’s card and claim this is a result of “government run amok.” I think it’s about ginned-up expectations that get in the way of truly achievable outcomes.

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“When all are shamed, none is shamed”

And definitions of what are and are not shameful will be changing, just as they always have.

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Sarah Palin is a total milf…I don’t blame him.

Right up until she opens her mouth and then all I hear is trailer-trash talk coming out of her and that’s a turn-off. Someone who should be seen and not heard.

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Rumor has it that Glenn Rice was a fan even before she attained MILF status

Glen’s color didn’t fit with the narrative, though.

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“Right up until she opens her mouth and then all I hear is trailer-trash talk coming out of her and that’s a turn-off. Someone who should be seen and not heard.”

Dude, there’s so many jokes that I could make about what you just wrote…probably wouldn’t stand a chance to make it through the filter.

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Prostitutes are an old staple in the spy business. Hiring a random stranger to hang around your room—possibly while you’re asleep—is dumb.

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Prior to 9/11, I could book a flight in your name and pay for it in cash

And you could sell your seat to someone else, no questions asked. The good old days. Now the airlines figured out that it was more profitable to prevent that activity.

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…s’cuse me while I remove my cell phone battery…

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Jay, the key two words in this blog are “corporate America”. You can thank our bought and paid for lawmakers for allowing Big Business to freely buy and sell this personal information without any legal restraints. It seems we are becoming more and more like The Roman Empire, rotting from the inside. History really can repeat itself.

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getalife at 11:12, hysterical.

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Sad but true Jay.

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‘Character’ is for the 99%ers.

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Who we are, as well as what our character is, is found from within, not from social norms from without. Many model excellent moral social norms, yet they are morally bankrupt, within. When we center upon and value who we are internally, and inherently, instead of upon the external perceptions of others, and of group norms, we find privacy, in any situation, and we also find peace.

From “The Reunion” on my blog, which focuses on the same theme:

“I thought that some of my former classmates may, yet, have the yearning to express who they were inherently meant to be – irrespective of the group norms that have surrounded them all of their lives. If any do, I hope that they will find the courage to follow their hearts and be true to their deeper selves, even at this late stage in their lives.”

http://maryelizabethsings.wordpress.com/2011/01/07/the-reunion/

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Corporate spying on individuals goes back to at least the days when GM tailed Ralph Nader, when he – as one man – dared stand up to them and speak out against their criminal negligence and malfeasance.

Now they are allowed to do it on a massive scale and without warrant or reasonable cause.

And the giant corporations like the ISPs and telecoms are rewarded for gathering the information for Uncle Sam.

Welcome to the Corporatocracy, suckers…

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Sometimes, technology advances faster than we’re capable of handling. That appears to be the current theme. Best practice is to actually have a sense of decency and morals, and you won’t get caught figuratively with your pants down. Because of my job, this is the extent of my “social networking”. I don’t do twitter, facebook, myspace, or anything else as the things I post can come back to cause the loss of my job. I have only recently had 3 photos of me placed on the internet, and that was because I took my daughter out. I don’t put information on the net, and I can’t understand why people give up so much information so freely.

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Can’t get your discount
at the grocery store if you
don’t tell them what you
buy.

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“Prior to 9/11, I could book a flight in your name and pay for it in cash. You could pay for hotel rooms in cash, no questions asked. Now you need a credit card and photo ID”

You still had to hand that money to SOMEONE. They might not have the correct name, but they saw you and “recorded” the transaction. The only way you can do something without someone else knowing about it is to live in complete and TOTAL isolation and do everything for youself.

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What fools American’s are to think they are free in a land of constant surveillance. Liberals want America to resemble the average European Welfare country, but Europe’s irreversibly mounting economic troubles and their social ethnic instabilities should be a warning to us that freedom *from* the government is what makes us safe. Obama and Romney are one and the same. Only Ron Paul represents constitutional Freedom and our best hope to restore our once great Republic.

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Could be??? Let’s go with “is”.

now, now. Can’t get all factual and have people think you’re librully basssssed.

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Oblama,

“Big government” isn’t gathering the massive amounts of data that private industry is. They hand it over to big government upon request, but private industry is doing nearly all of the actual spying. Why do you give them a pass?

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Pea @ 12:07

Can I co-sign with you on that one?

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I think a good way of defeating even the best surveillance cameras is at all times wear a hoodie.

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Left:
Restrict womens’ rights? Bad
Insurance mandate? Good

Point taken, but I think most actual lefties found the private insurance mandate more like “tolerable (since turns out we ain’t passing single-payer or even a crummy public option for a teensy slice of under-65 year old Americans)”

…rather than “Good.”

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Freedom Lover

“. Liberals want America to resemble the average European Welfare country, but Europe’s irreversibly mounting economic troubles and their social ethnic instabilities should be a warning to us that freedom *from* the government is what makes us safe.”

So why are conservatives so fixated on telling me what I can do in my bedroom?

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“Blaming it on one only makes you look like a partisaned idiot.”

Hope it didn’t that particular post to figure that out……..

had to go there.. it was too easy

What’s up Bro? Hope you are having a great Friday

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I have yet to see anything
done wrong by a recording
device.

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Best plan may be to drop out of social media sites, pay cash, and wear a hoodie

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ty webb

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

whew………………………

(BTW – the “in the bedroom” phrase is a metaphor for regulating private conduct and relationships).

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ty,

You know your party are pervs in our bedrooms.

Own it.

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paul – point taken. i was attempting, in my inelegant way, to make a humorous statement about the “vote of confidence” – in most cases when the manager (or GM or coach, or whatever) gets the public VOC from the boss, it usually means the kiss of death. cheers…

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ty,

If you have a problem with your party in our bedrooms tell your reps.

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parties in bedrooms were
once good things..

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getalife

I guess in their minds, we need to get all that stuff out of our bedrooms and back into airport bathroom stalls and bondage clubs where it belongs.

massachusetts

Yeah, humor, sarcasm and irony are the bane of the written word for a blogger -

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is the proper response to a
haiku…gesundheit?

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“(BTW – the “in the bedroom” phrase is a metaphor for regulating private conduct and relationships).”

“metaphor”? no…but if marriage licensing is “regulating private conduct and relationships”, the government(local, state, and federal, run by members of both parties) have been doing that for years…and same sex relationships are but only one issue in which it is regulated(age, not being able to marry someone within your immediate family, or polygamy, being a few others)…guess you blame those on “conservatives” too.

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getalife
is the government in your
bedroom?

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getalife,
I don’t really care what you and your partner do in your mom’s basement.

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frog,

Yes.

ty,

Yes, you do.

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“but if marriage licensing is “regulating private conduct and relationships”, the government(local, state, and federal, run by members of both parties) have been doing that for years”

It isn’t. It is primarily regulating the proper transfer of property in case of the death of one of the partners (spouse)

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ty

““metaphor”? no…”

Interesting that you tell a person the metaphor they use is not a metaphor for what they want to say.

Cons have more control issues than just ‘in the bedroom’ behavior.

Government’s been regulating marriage. Cons want it to apply only to that which they deem socially acceptable. For years they regulated, not just homosexual conduct, but actual heterosexual sexual activity in bedrooms. Until the courts threw it out. Happened here in Texas. If you’re in Georgia, happened there, too.

As far as ‘blaming’ one side, you know full well people on both edges of the spectrum have views atypical of their end of the spectrum. But answer honestly: which political grouping imakes a litmus test issue with social values tests for candidates and representatives?

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In today’s world, to too many people, honor means: Jump on ‘er and stay on ‘er

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getalife
what is the government doing in your bedroom?

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“which political grouping imakes a litmus test issue with social values tests for candidates and representatives?”

easy answer, republicans…yet, that’s not what you said.

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barking frog

Google is your friend.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0478_0186_ZD1.html

Lots of legislators are voyeurs.

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ty webb

You are correct. It’s not what I said. It’s what you said.

Paul: ““So why are conservatives so fixated on telling me what I can do in my bedroom?”

ty webb: “they’re not.”

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Oblama – 12:01

Once again you post and once again, as usual, you’re wrong. Big Brother was an actual person in 1984, even though he had no dialogue. Winston Smith asked his interrogator if there really was a Big Brother. The answer was yes. If you’re going to reference a book, it would be helpful to have actually read it first.

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“You are correct.”

thanks.

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Would one of the Palin haters give an example of trailer trash talk? Is it anything like that whole buncha bringin a knife to tha fight thug talk from the White House?
So Jimmy Carter believes in the *old stand your ground* rule, as in protect the birdies in your backyard from the neighbor’s kitty cat and shoot the sucker dead.
I think your main assertion is *we are he.*

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ty webb

You’re welcome.

Now maybe you’ll know how to differentiate between what you posted and what someone else posted.

You can always refer back to the names at the top of the posts for help.

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getalife

barking frog’s not going to be satisfied until he sees a court case with the cite “State of Louisiana vs getalife” in the heading.

I think he didn’t like getting caught peeking.

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..”and we are he” no?

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frog,

Creeepy.

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I seem to remember the Democrats looking in to putting tracking programs in cars so they can tax people based on the miles they drive. Democrats support far more Big Brother type programs than conservatives. It’s all about extracting taxes for everything everyone ever does.

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not the Secret Service, but Sexual Service. There is a reason they call themselves “Secret LOL

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brosephus

Is your name really trademarked? If yes, how much does it cost?

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SS agent has a Facebook page: Stoopid IMO

if SS regs permit personal Facebook pages: Stoopid IMO (does anyone know the regs on that?)

SS agent surreptitiously checking out Sarah Palin: Hey, if you can do it without being noticed, go ahead

SS agent admits to surreptitiously checking out Sarah Palin: Stoopid IMO

Sarah Palin indignant at SS agent’s admission of surreptitiously checking her out: Completely understandable IMO

Final Score:

Sarah Palin 1
SS Agent 1
Stoopid 3

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ty

It all began with the assertion conservatives seem overly concerned about regulating personal, social behavior. You said they aren’t and took it into the marriage sphere.

I think it’s pretty clear from the history of court cases that the cases dealing with regulating personal, private conduct have originated with conservatives. If that’s their thing, that’s fine. But to say they aren’t concerned about such matters strikes me as divorced from reality.

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BTW, I’ve been thinking of a new nom de blog.
<– What do you think?

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Democrats support far more Big Brother type programs than conservatives.

HUH????

Notwithstanding the plethora of compelling evidence you provided to support that bizarre claim, I don’t believe you…

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The outrage concerning this hooker episode is hypocrisy taken to a higher lever. Service men/women and hookers is an old old story. We were always told that discretion was the better part of valor.

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level

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Ok.
First of all, all government employees are allowed to have social media accounts, including Facebooks. They are also allowed to blog. The only thing they can’t do is is talk about their jobs. This guy would have been clear if he had simply had a facebook where he talked about his non work life. But when he started talking about his work for the secret service, he may have violated national security laws. For the record, this is the same policy that the US military has for its personnel and the State Department also has the same policy.
If you work for an agency of the government that requires any kind of secrecy, you cannot talk about your job whether in real life or on the web. The former agent named in the article violated this law.
It’s matter of national security, that is why people who work for these agencies are not allowed to talk about their jobs. Chaney was working for the Secret Service, not for Taco Bell or Microsoft. He had no right to talk about the specifics of his job and when he did so, he violated US laws.

As for whether he should have paid the prostitutes. You must obey the laws in what ever country you happen to be in. In Columbia, they apparently have a law that says you must pay an escort for all services she provides you.

In the US it is different. In most states the services provided by the Colombian escort are considered prostitution and hence illegal. Under US contract laws, you have to pay for any good or service that you have verbally or otherwise agreed to pay for unless those goods or services are illegal in the United States which prostitution is in most communities. As a result, in the United States, the agent would not be required to pay the escort for the sexual services she provided because those types of commercial activities are illegal. Hence, what we have here was a conflict resulting in a difference between American and Colombian laws, mores, and cultures.

Did you know that you have can pick up a prostitute, have sex with her and then not pay her. Simply tell her and her pimp that you will report them to the police. Of course, on the other hand, the police will take in an interest in the fact that you were walking around offering money to people to participate in an illegal commercial sex activity which is also illegal in most US communities.
You can go to jail simply for offering a woman $5 to flash her breasts, (unless you are in the french quarter during mardi gras apparently).

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“Democrats support far more Big Brother type programs than conservatives.”

Progressives who champion big government ideas, whether they have an R or a D beside their names, are the ones who support the idea of a Big Brother.

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Progressives who champion big government ideas, whether they have an R or a D beside their names, are the ones who support the idea of a Big Brother..

Hysterical.

The Bush neocons were progressives…

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Paul
April 20th, 2012
1:00 pm
getalife
barking frog’s not going to be
satisfied until he sees a court
case with the cite “State of
Louisiana vs getalife” in the
heading.
I think he didn’t like getting
caught peeking.
———-
peeking paul is more likely

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Robert — Thanks for the clarification on the Facebook question. I kind of figured that was the case, but I felt sure that we’d have somene on the blog who could comment knowledgeably on it.

I do have a question about this, though:

“In the US it is different. In most states the services provided by the Colombian escort are considered prostitution and hence illegal. Under US contract laws, you have to pay for any good or service that you have verbally or otherwise agreed to pay for unless those goods or services are illegal in the United States which prostitution is in most communities. As a result, in the United States, the agent would not be required to pay the escort for the sexual services she provided because those types of commercial activities are illegal. Hence, what we have here was a conflict resulting in a difference between American and Colombian laws, mores, and cultures.”

Prostitution is legal in most of Nevada, so couldn’t an agent (in his off-duty time, of course) patronize a Nevada prostitute without breaking the law?

If so, then I’m fuzzy on why he couldn’t patronize a Colombian prostitute, particularly if he did so in a legal way, within the bounds of local and federal laws down there. Wouldn’t it be the same sort of situation as going to see a hooker in Desertville, NV?

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Big Brother

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngbFjmVfJOs

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“The Bush neocons were progressives…”

Congratulations, are you just now figuring that one out? Could have told you that one back 2003.

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Mick

Nah, I just put that on here to scare namejackers.

I actually swiped that name from another blog story that I found to be funny as hell.

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ok I really shouldn’t have posted that without the chant of the ever circling skeletal family

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EOlZyD26T4&feature=related

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“Yet the conservative machine backed him in full force in 2004. So what does that say about conservatives?”

The alternative was another Progressive, Kerry. So what does that say about our country? In 2008 we had to choose between a left wing progressive and a right wing progressive. Looks like we’re getting the same menu for 2012.

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Jay, another good article. How long before some kneejerkatron turns this party neutral story into a crap flinging exercise?

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“Progressives who champion big government ideas, whether they have an R or a D beside their names, are the ones who support the idea of a Big Brother.”
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Social Security, Medicare, nor Obamacare would not cause the government to spy upon your privacy. You have made an intellectual leap, based on stereotypical thinking and assumptions. I suspect that your correlation of “big brother” to “progressive thought” is based upon your political leanings.

The government can serve its citizens through social programs and still be controlled, just as the private sector can be controlled or regulated, by the will of the people, themselves, as reflected in its laws.

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Correction: “or,” not “nor,” placed before “Obamacare”

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mary

I’m tempted to make corrections but then I figure people will get the gist of it and not think any less of the comment. Bottom line, this ain’t no graded essay writin’…

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“So what does that say about conservatives?” – Most of them see the ‘R’ and just go with it.

Yep. Same with ‘D’. I think people are easily mislead to support a big government program in the ruse that its good for our country, while they unknowingly give up their freedoms.

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Head, did you figure out back in 2003 that none of you Republicans were conservatives?

And still aren’t?

LOL.

You boys killed conservatism.

As in murdered, asphyxiated, massacred, drowned, slayed, eradicated, executed, obliterated, wiped out, rubbed out dead.

And you sure as hell aren’t the gang that will bring it back to life…

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Talking Head,

You give up (what many perceive as) privacy in many life situations for convenience in order to improve the quality of your life. Just because Obamacare is passed, does not mean individuals would have to give up their private health insurance, if they do not care to.

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If I were one of the worthless SS agents I would say the President himself said he was advance scouting vacation spots- ergo not official business.

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A little beauty in an ugly world:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3jCFeCtSjk

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“Disagree completely. Under ‘Obamacare’ ‘advisory’ boards are created that will determine whether a procedure is deemed necessary. In order for them to make such a decision, wouldn’t they need to know your medical history, age, sex, etc”

No, they wouldn’t. They would not be determining if a procedure was neccessary for YOU. They would be determining if a procedure was cost effect over all, especially if there are alternative procedures that exist that are less expensive and just as, or more, effective.

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TBGoA

Can’t argue with that. Until others open their eyes to that fact, we’re gonna continue to chase our collective tails…

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Some more Nick Drake:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRmHdEq_2i0&feature=related

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It is not Big Brother, as always it is BIG GOVERNMENT. It is not delightful to find out that a business is collecting data, and many are making opting out more available, but ultimately EVERY PIECE OF INFORMATION collected by these businesses is being gathered and assembled by GOVERNMENT under one auspice or another. Government wants back doors into internet providers, cell providers, etc. The Patriot Act and other illegal and unconstitutional acts have allowed the government to write their own search warrents and are basically spying on EVERYONE in this country without warrant or probable cause.

As always blame government and both the democrats and republicans for they are both in favor of this horror. Is it any wonder why Ron Paul (who despite being a republican has always stood up for the constitution and person liberties) has so much support among the younger generation???

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**the American experiment may come to an end.**

Doomsday prophecy, we’ve been through much worse, yet over 200 years later, here we still are…

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“You give up (what many perceive as) privacy in many life situations for convenience in order to improve the quality of your life. Just because Obamacare is passed, does not mean individuals would have to give up their private health insurance, if they do not care to.”

Ok, that’s not even anything I addressed.

“Just because Obamacare is passed, does not mean individuals would have to give up their private health insurance, if they do not care to.”

Maybe, more likely a person will lose their employer sponsered health insurance and will then have to choose a plan from the ‘exchange’ which nobody really knows what will be included or excluded.

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IPAB will look at payback periods though

Meaning if you want a device and you’re 80 and it will only extend your life a year at a cost $60,000, medicare ain’t paying for it

Which seems perfectly rational to me

But don’t put the blinders on folks

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there is one area in which you will not be asked to prove who you are or will be watched

when you VOTE……….

the libs don’t want you to prove who you are so its open season on fraud

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/08/DC-Polling-Place-Holder-Ballot

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mary

Sorry mary, you are of course, correct. I, on the other hand, am just a sloppy blog writer who makes a good faith effort to get it write…

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jm

Yes it is, but in terms of lasting goverment institutions, ours casts a giant shadow over all others…

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Just spent 48 minutes on hold with the IRS tring to get a letter from them verifying my tax ID number is valid to make the state people happy.

That’s 48 minutes I wasn’t doing anything to further my business for a stupid rule in some state agencies rule book for those of you wondering about useless regulations affecting business….

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Mick hardly

The roman empire lasted 2.5 times longer, and the catholic church (an institution in it’s own right with immense power and resources, for better or worse) has lasted 10 times as long

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I see the Democrat majority Senate, the same one that has failed to do it’s legal duty by passing a budget for the last three years, has now passed a bill putting “black boxes” in all new cars starting in 2015. More Big Brother from the party that loves to control everything about out lives.

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I’m voting for the ABM line of merchandise. Get Puffy on board, and you’ll make a million.

Thanks for making me spit up that delicious mouthful of coffee…

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doggone

are you telling me that mail in voting is the MOST SECURE…………..
am i being PUNK’D?

walk in with ID is the most secure…….. once you sign that you are that person then you have committed voter fraud

anyone can do mail in voter fraud because there is no way to track who did it

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The real Big Brother was watching Ted Nugent. Don’t speak against Oblama ’cause Big Brother is Watching you. I’m sure Big Brother monitors everyone that enters a comment on Jay’s blog in an attempt to silence those that do not worship the “Great Divider”.

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mm – Do I have to explain everything to you? The IRS is not the state of Georgia but YOUR beloved Federal Government.

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Hiring a random stranger to hang around your room—possibly while you’re asleep—is dumb.

Not only dumb, it’s against the rules for SS agents to invite any foreign national into their hotel room.

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weetamoe – 12:53 “Jimmy Carter believes in the stand your ground rule”.

Oh really? He certainly didn’t believe it when OPEC decided to take us to the cleaners and more than doubled oil prices. If Carter had stood up to those miserable bandits then, we wouldn’t be paying thru the nose for gasoline now.

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carlosgvv@2:28

Jeesh…shouldn’t we blame nixon too? I seem to remember long gas lines and price shock in his day. Of course your reasoning is a bit ludicrous to begin with…

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Just spent 48 minutes on hold with the IRS

Well RB, sorry to hear, but you really can’t say you weren’t warned.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/story/2012-04-16/irs-staffing-workload-taxpayer-assistance/54323026/1

The long waits are the result of the IRS’ expanded workload and diminished workforce, says IRS Taxpayer Advocate Nina Olson, whose 2011 annual report identified inadequate resources as the most serious problem facing taxpayers. In 1995, the IRS had a staff of 114,018 to process 205 million tax returns. In 2012, it has 90,907 people to process nearly 236 million tax returns. For this tax filing season, the IRS has 5,000 fewer employees than it did a year ago.

Increasing the IRS’ budget has never been politically expedient, and the Republican Party’s anti-tax message has made the agency even more unpopular, says Bruce Bartlett, an economist who worked in the Reagan and George H.W. Bush administrations. “Beating up on the IRS is never going to hurt you politically, regardless of which party you’re in, and we’re paying the price for this kind of attitude.”

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The vice president is a wise guy indeed. Even he recognizes that the president’s agenda is “like legalizing rattlesnakes in the lobbies of hotels in Arizona.” politico.com/politico44/2012/04/biden-were-going-to-win-arizona-121100.html

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“Free speech is still free, but it does not give you immunity from the reprecussions of what you say”

And the President, whoever is President, does not initiate the vists. That’s totally and completely up to the Secret Service. I’m not even sure the President can STOP them, let alone set them on the hunt.

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“Nothing likeasking for and cutting employment and then b*tching about the results of what you asked for”

They need a selection on their menu: For expedited service, press 9 – a $50 fee will be charged to your phone bill for this service”

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“That wouldn’t work. I could already hear the cries about being taxed for something they’re already paying for. Some people will never be pleased with anything”

Yep…sounds like the “express lanes” on the Interstates here in GA, doesn’t it?

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Yep…sounds like the “express lanes” on the Interstates here in GA, doesn’t it?

That was exactly what I was thinking of when I posted that.

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I saw Ted Nugent in concert in Biloxi. He can really play the guitar. He is no fan of Big Brother therefore he is no fan of Oblama. The attempt by Oblama was obviously an attempt to silence a dissenting voice.

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**The attempt by Oblama was obviously an attempt to silence a dissenting voice**

**It started with Carter. By Nixon’s time it was too entrenched to undo**

Ignorance on display, enough said…

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T. Head — “Medicare will, not the board. Medicare will track individuals based on the charges the receive each year. The focus is on primary care, and the ACO’s will have reimburesment incentives to keep costs down.”

Well, your objection seemed to be about the *board* knowing people’s identities, so that seems to invalidate your complaint.

Medicare already knows your identity, and has for many years, so that can’t be laid at Obama’s feet, if you’re complaining about that.

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RB — “That’s 48 minutes I wasn’t doing anything to further my business for a stupid rule in some state agencies rule book for those of you wondering about useless regulations affecting business….”

Maybe you should pay higher taxes so the IRS can hire more people. Then you won’t have to wait so long for them to answer your question.

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stands

Unfortunately, some people don’t know how to connect dots…

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How many did Oblama and Spike Lee insight in the Ziimmerman case with their nationally broadcasted uneducated comments? Why didn’t the police show up at The Black Panther Party’s door when they publicly threatened Zimmerman’s life – which by the way is an illegal act? Free Speech is still in The Constitution and it’s not illegal to disagree with the President. Nugent goes overboard to prove a point but he is wacko.

So many lies and misconceptions……so little time….hmmmm where should I start first?

a) How did the President “incite” anything? Some instances (verifiable AND factual), please.

b) The black panthers “threatened” Zimmerman about the same way your man Nugent “threatened” the President; something you were cool with so why the indignation now? Besides how do you know the police DIDN’T show up?

c) Not illegal to disagree with the President, but VERY illegal and VERY serious to talk about insurrection OR harming the President in any way. Don’t believe me? Why don’t you, (I dare you), take out an ad on a billboard in your city and say some of the exact same things that Nugent says. Oh and put your name on it too. (I double DOG dare you).

oh well, to paraphrase stands, I spend WAY too much time trying to reason with the unwashed unreasonables on this blog.

I can’t help it though, I still believe in my fellow man.

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If Ted Notcogent was still 19 years old, I can see why he would think he can make veiled threats against the President of the United States of America and everything would be hunky dory.

It’s just a testament to his stupidity and minor-figure machismo…

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Why do yall even entertain “Oblama”? smh. That dude would blame Snooki getting pregnant on Obama.

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And as long as I’m up here on this soapbox, in the annals of irresponsible public goading, this surely deserves some note…

“Whatever do you mean, sfd? It’s not like anyone would just go out and shoot people on account of them being liberal or anything!”

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Carlosgov: He certainly didn’t believe it when OPEC decided to take us to the cleaners and more than doubled oil prices. If Carter had stood up to those miserable bandits then, we wouldn’t be paying thru the nose for gasoline now……………… ………………….. carlosgvv
April 20th, 2012
2:46 pm
Mick – 2:32
It started with Carter. By Nixon’s time it was too entrenched to undo. If OPEC had waited until Regan was president to suddenly jack up oil prices, do you really think he would have sat passively by and done nothing?

Finally! The proof that I needed that you are just talking out the side of your neck and have NO IDEA what the heck you’re talking about!!!

Nixon was president BEFORE Carter – Carter was a Governor of Georgia before he went into the Whitehouse, he wasn’t even in the Senate so how could HE have made ANYTHING so hard for NIXON when Nixon time was BEFORE his? Duh!

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Debbie Does Dallas – The Black Panther Party in an interview on T.V. took out a contract on Zimmerman’s life and offered an award to whoever killed him. Nugent wasn’t any where near that level. No one came to arrest them – why? Nugent views his opinions but he didn’t threaten anyone’s life.

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Well, this is the reason why I’ll always be grateful Chip Rogers got a law passed to keep people from chasing me down and putting a chip in my brain. You got to admit, from watching what we do it’s only a small step to controlling what we do.

Anyhow, I do my best to look out for spy cameras and such. I check inside the toilet before I even set down. With all the preverts in GA, you never can tell what people will want to get film of and sell on the innernet tubes.

I’ve been hauling and humping all day and you drunks folks are all set to swap weird music. Have a good Friday night everybody.

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JAMVET,

How on earth did you interpret the NUGENTS comments as a threat to the spineless wonder? Jumping to conclusions are we? Any NRA member will tell you, for better or worse that they will not give up their guns unless pried from dead fingers…he was simply riffing on that credo…no pun intended…

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The president never should have weighed in on Martin

So, now you’re saying the president should ignore questions from the press? If you remember, he didn’t say anything until he was asked about it. I’m just trying to find out where you stand on that. If it’s ok for a president to duck questions from the press, how does the press go about keeping politicians honest?

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“So, now you’re saying the president should ignore questions from the press?”

People ignore and brush away questions from the press all the time.

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Once again, the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of George W. Bush.

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OH Bama! – Not only are you amazingly dim, BUT you have the audacity to wade in your dimness like a hog in sh##t.

I was searching for that tune from The Wizard of Oz for you, (you know “If I only had a brain”?), but I figured you’d be too dim to even understand that I was insulting you and instead take it as a compliment. sigh……

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Imma take a page out Oblamas book:

Nuggets comment was a threat to the President AND a message to his followers and Republicans that they should all die or be in jail before letting Obama become re-elected.

Did i do a good job?

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“Oblama, do you see partisan politics in EVERY topic?”

You make it sound like he is the only one.

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osephus™

April 20th, 2012
3:20 pm
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That happens on the first Tuesday in November every four years, and is coming up this year. In between there is the congress. And you can organize a protest somewhere near the White House. I guess that’s about it.

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You make it sound like he is the only one.

No, he didn’t.

Unless I’m missing the parts written in invisible ink!

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That was certainly interesting testimony at Zimmermans bond hearing. Zimmerman takes the stand and apologizes to Travon Martins family. The lead investigator under questioning from Zimmermans attorney was asked if he had evidence as to who started the struggle? He replied that he did not. He was asked if he had evidence that contradicted Zimmermans testimony that after being told not to follow Martin that he had started walking back to his vehicle? The lead investigator replied that he did not. Also there was evidence showing a close up photo of Zimmerman’s bloody head and face taken at the scene by an eye witness who testified that he saw the fight where there was a man on top of another man punching him repeatedly and then he saw the man who was on top laying in the grass appearing to be dead. I had thought that the evidence against Zimmerman was pretty solid that he was guilty of unauthorized and therefore unlawful pursuit and was therefore correctly charged of first degree murder Now it’s looking pretty muddy.

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Oscar

If you don’t know what the president says/thinks, how effective is a protest against him/her going to be? You need a reason to protest if you expect your protest to gain traction. How effective is a protest against the president going to be if he said nothing about what you’re angry about? The next thing would be castigating the press for not getting the president to say anything.

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Besides, Notcogent hasn’t done a damn thing even remotely musically interesting in 30 years or more.

A proverbial flash in the pan with a demented shtick.

Unlike these guys…

She’s so respectable
She’s so delectable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-eUfBflR6s&feature=related

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I’ve tried to keep out of it, but giving President Obama sh*t for weighing in on that media circus is plain silly. The same folks giving him a hard time for doing it would be giving him a hard time if he HAD have ignored or brushed off the question. The Reporter is the one who should be castigated.

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then LBJ ran and won on the JFK sympathy vote because Barry Goldwater was such an extremist and insane train wreck of a man that he suffered not just a defeat, but an epic humiliation.

But Yippee!

He did win Arizona, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina.

And nothing else.

Says a ton about those five state, huh?

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Well now sometimes ole Doomy just has to put aside his partisanship and acknowledge when Obama makes sense and makes a great speech in doing so. Yep. Its a truly wonderful and beautiful speech in the video at the bottom of the page in the link. Its only 7 minutes but definitely worth everyone’s view.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/04/alabama_football_title_honored.html

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He singled that person out when that charge could just as easily have been thrown at you along with a dozen others here.

Maybe by singling that person out, the poster was trying to avoid using a broad brush swipe that people are often called out about. Did’ja ever think of that?

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“The Reporter is the one who should be castrated”- josef

You’re a little harsh there aren’t you josef?

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Carter famously said that the world would run out of oil in 10 years back when he was still in office.

Patently false.

But if so, cite please?

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Brosephus™

April 20th, 2012
1:35 pm
Congratulations, are you just now figuring that one out? Could have told you that one back 2003.

Yet the conservative machine backed him in full force in 2004. So what does that say about conservatives?
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Bro, I would say the GOP machine backed him full force.

There is a difference.

Although that line is becomming more and more blurred.

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ZamVet

Them five states are big fans of coaches, you know. That says a lot, too…

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For those of you who don’t know me. I am neither Dem nor Repub. Oblama means that you always blame the other side and never accept responsibility for your own part in creating this alarming Fed debt and failing economy. BOTH parties are responsible and those who voted for them are responsible if you kept them in office. I am for Term Limits on both parties. I did not vote for Bush II or Obama. I did vote for the only candidate to take the deficit seriously – Ross Perot. This election is not about class warfare/ race warfare/ sex warfare/ or age warfare as the Dem Party is trying to make it. This election is about the economy, jobs and the alarming Fed debt and how to reduce it. JamVet knows I have explained this before. I am not a member of either party. I am for who I think will reduce this Fed debt and Oblama has had 4 years and I don’t buy what he is selling.

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Debbiedoright,

Harsh Debbie. Very harsh of you. I thought it was a nice speech and the president referenced the tornado tragedy and people coming together in its aftermath. It was more than just about a football team winning a championship. But if you think that’s dim witted of me then so be it.

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BTW

I don’t know if he was kidding or not (no smiley) but that quote from Thulsa of me is not correct…I didn’t say the reporter should be castrated. Why? I have no idea (seriously) whether that Warholian cretin was male or female…

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Did Atlas Shrugged (part1) ever make the theaters or did it go straight to video?

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josef

April 20th, 2012
3:48 pm

BTW

I don’t know if he was kidding or not (no smiley) but that quote from Thulsa of me is not correct…I didn’t say the reporter should be castrated. Why? I have no idea (seriously) whether that Warholian cretin was male or female…
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You said castigated lol. You know doomy. He sometimes gets tripped up on the big words. Or not. He also sometimes gets punny lol.

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I have to go. I would appreciate if someone could post this in Jay’s Friday song blog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jREUrbGGrgM

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Oh Bama!: JFK ran against Nixon and won. JFK was, unfortunately assassinated, LBJ assumed the last year of JFK’s term, then LBJ ran and won on the JFK sympathy vote. LBJ was very unpopular due to getting the U.S. involved in Vietnam. He declined to run for a second term. Nixon ran and won and then was removed from office due to Watergate. Jimmy Carter ran and won. Carter ran again and was defeated by Ronald Reagan in one of the greatest landslides in history due to the recession

My GOD you’re dumb! THIS is what I was responding to dumbazz!

From carlosgov: It started with Carter. By Nixon’s time it was too entrenched to undo

Nixon’s time was BEFORE Carter’s. That’s what I said. I have no idea why I’m even responding to you. Boredom makes you do strange things…………….

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Clarified…

butter?

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DDR: You DO know that there is “liberal” talk radio in Atlanta now didn’t you? 1010 WGUN. http://atlantas1010.com/

You can’t stream live yet but they say it coming. They kind of flow back and forth between black radio, liberal radio, and I guess on weekends, Jesus radio. I dunno. I’ve heard Randi Rhodes and a couple others there so far……..

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Then Jay you must reallly hate Obamacare and it’s “electronic records. We are toast and there will be no freedom for our children. Political correctness was the beginning. Databases and beareaucrats will be the end.

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OK, out for the evening.

Play some great stuff later and in the meantime demonize your favorite demons!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8aJXzR3WyI

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Weren’t we talking about Big Butter…?

har har har, cubed!

later, all.

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“For those of you who don’t know me.”

NOBODY knows u……

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Headline (CBS): “Dem Senator Doesn’t Know If He Will Vote For Obama”

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/04/20/dem-senator-doesnt-know-if-he-will-vote-for-obama/

“All the kings horses and all the kings men couldn’t put Humpy Dumpty together again.”

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Steve – USA (I support “None Of The Above”)

April 20th, 2012
3:25 pm
“Oblama, do you see partisan politics in EVERY topic?”

You make it sound like he is the only one.
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No Steve, he’s not the ONLY one.

But even getalife from time to time can comment on a topic without the political BS.

It just gets old.

Yes, I know I can scroll past his posts.

And I think I shall.

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Steve , my comment would not apply to JamVet, because I have seen him make Plenty of nonpartisan posts. Heck, look at his first couple on this topic.

Oblama. Not so much.

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Oh BAma!: Oblama
April 20th, 2012
3:33 pm
Debbie – sorry I got you mixed up with Carlos. He was the dummy this time. As I said Carter was after Nixon. They both were in office during gas shortages and long lines. Carter famously said that the world would run out of oil in 10 years back when he was still in office. Guess his estimate was a little uniformed

Uh Oh! I think I owe you an apology. Sorry about what I said earlier. Bad Debbie, Bad. Bad. BAD!!!

Pdawg: Even if he did need to weigh in on it, don’t say something as stupid as “if i had a son he’d look like that” or whatever. I just don’t the relevance

Because you’re not black; so your son would not look like a black teenager who the right wing wackos say they have a right to profile. Duh!

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Debbiedoright,

No biggie. I just wondered why I was catching hell. But I wasn’t kidding about Obama’s speech when our team went to the white house today. It really was a very wonderful speech indeed even if it only was for 7 minutes. Plus our team got to meet the president which is always a cool thing.

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Thulsa – did you hear? You guys broke the crystal football. Actually it was the father of a player who tripped on the carpet and knocked it off the pedestal. Replacement cost $30,000

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“Everybody is watching everybody. Big Brother is here, and We are Him.”

Yep, Gwinnett County just spent $677,000 to install “traffic safety” cameras along the roads. You’d have to be a total Pollyanna to believe those cameras will only be used for “safety”.

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As a follow up to my 11:47 am post, here is another entry from my blog – for any who may be interested – related to becoming who one inherently is, outside of group norms and expectations:

http://maryelizabethsings.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/for-the-god-of-things-as-they-are/

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Talking Head @ 2:03 pm

” ‘ME: You give up (what many perceive as) privacy in many life situations for convenience in order to improve the quality of your life. Just because Obamacare is passed, does not mean individuals would have to give up their private health insurance, if they do not care to.’

Ok, that’s not even anything I addressed.”
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My point was that little in life has absolute purity – including privacy. It is a matter of degree. One may choose, for example, to give up a small degree of privacy, as in Medicare, for a greater benefit of service and convenience.

You had said: “Disagree completely. Under ‘Obamacare’ ‘advisory’ boards are created that will determine whether a procedure is deemed necessary. In order for them to make such a decision, wouldn’t they need to know your medical history, age, sex, etc?”

I suspect that Obamacare would function – in terms of privacy – similar to Medicare. I have found no meaningful intrusion on my privacy since I have been on Medicare.

(I see that the “advisory board” aspect that you brought up was discussed by others earlier today, after you initially posted this remark, so there is no need for me to readdress it here.)

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“and no one cares.”
So I guess the big question is why does no one care, Jay. Hard times make for hard exteriors. Overexposure to “full range of human frailty” numbs the senses. Repeated appeals for restitution for this or that slight began to sound like whining. Teaching becomes nagging. Eventually the human capacity for caring simply shrugs.

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