Catholic bishop likens Obama to Stalin, Hitler
This is quite a hysterical screed, and by hysterical I do not mean that it is funny. It is not funny in the least.
It is hysterical because is driven by hysteria. It is also historically ignorant and irresponsible.
The speaker is Bishop Daniel R. Jenky, head of a Catholic diocese in Illinois. Here’s what he had to say during a weekend Mass:
“The Church survived barbarian invasions. The Church survived wave after wave of Jihads. The Church survived the age of revolution. The Church survived Nazism and Communism. And in the power of the resurrection, the Church will survive the hatred of Hollywood, the malice of the media, and the mendacious wickedness of the abortion industry.
The Church will survive the entrenched corruption and sheer incompetence of our Illinois state government, and even the calculated disdain of the president of the United States, his appointed bureaucrats in HHS, and of the current majority of the federal Senate.
May God have mercy especially on the souls of those politicians who pretend to be Catholic in church, but in their public lives, rather like Judas Iscariot, betray Jesus Christ by how they vote and how they willingly cooperate with intrinsic evil.
As Christians we must love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us, but as Christians we must also stand up for what we believe and be ready to fight to defend our faith. The days in which we live now require heroic Catholicism, not casual Catholicism. We can no longer be Catholics by accident, but instead be Catholics by conviction.
In our own families, in our parishes, where we live and where we work – like that very first apostolic generation – we must be bold witnesses to the Lordship of Jesus Christ. We must be a fearless army of Catholic men, ready to give everything we have for the Lord, who gave everything for our salvation.
Remember that in past history other governments have tried to force Christians to huddle and hide only within the confines of their churches like those first disciples before the Resurrection locked together in the Upper Room.
In the late 19th century, Bismark waged his “Kulturkamf,” a culture war against the Roman Catholic Church, closing down every Catholic school and hospital, convent and monastery in Imperial Germany. Clemenceau, nicknamed “the priest eater,” tried the same thing in France in the first decade of the 20th Century.
Hitler and Stalin, at their better moments, would just barely tolerate some churches remaining open, but would not tolerate any competition with the state in education, social services, and health care.
In clear violation of our First Amendment rights, President Obama – with his radical, pro-abortion and extreme secularist agenda, now seems intent on following a similar path.
Now things have come to such a pass in our beloved country that this is a battle that we could lose, but before the awesome judgment seat of Almighty God this is not a battle where any believing Catholic may remain neutral.”
I was raised to believe that religious leaders deserve a great deal of respect and even deference, and I hope I have raised my children with those same values. Jenky, however, deserves neither respect nor deference, because he is talking like a fool.
After all, only a fool would try to equate insurance coverage for contraception to the brutalities that were inflicted upon tens of millions of people by the likes of Stalin and Hitler. The bishop’s comments are deeply insulting and disrespectful, less to President Obama than to the many victims of the tyrants to whom Jenky attempts to link him. His comparison trivializes true human horror.
St. Peter, after all, was crucified upside down by the Romans, who also fed Christians to the lions. Hitler attempted the physical eradication of an entire religious tradition. Stalin starved millions to death in an attempt to force them to worship the state rather than a God of their own choosing.
And “President Obama, with his radical, pro-abortion and extreme secularist agenda, now seems intent on following a similar path”?
The suggestion is obscene.
(Given the bishop’s claims, it is also relevant to point out that the Catholic Church did not fight heroically against the evils of Naziism. To a large degree, it legitimized, collaborated and cooperated with it. While individual clerics of conscience sometimes spoke and acted with heroism, the church as an institution did not. It stood in silent acceptance of the murder of Jews and voluntarily surrendered its moral credibility. By that behavior, it did no worse than many other human institutions in that time and place. But it also did no better.)
While Jenky has seemed to abandon all sense of proportion, it’s important to keep in mind what’s really at issue here. The administration does not propose and has never proposed that the Catholic Church or other religious groups be forced to provide insurance coverage for contraception to their staff. Church staff members are expressly excluded from such a mandate out of respect for religious liberty.
The law does, however, require that church-affiliated institutions that perform secular functions in the secular world — schools, universities, hospitals, etc. — provide such coverage to their staff, many of whom are members of a different faith, just as every other provider of such services must do.
You would never know it from the hysteria offered by Jenky, but many Catholic-affiliated institutions have been offering contraceptive coverage to their secular staff for decades without controversy. For example, Georgetown University, which drew national attention through the Sandra Fluke controversy, is a Jesuit college that already offers contraception coverage to its faculty and staff, but not to its students. Many states, including Georgia, have also had similar laws on the books mandating such coverage for decades, again without controversy.
The administration proposal is also well within the constitutional confines established by the Supreme Court. As Justice Antonin Scalia, himself a stalwart Catholic, wrote in “Employment Division v. Smith” (1990):
“We have never held that an individual’s religious beliefs excuse him from compliance with an otherwise valid law prohibiting conduct that the state is free to regulate. On the contrary, the record of more than a century of our free exercise jurisprudence contradicts that proposition.”
Jenky, on the other hand, argues that church law must take precedence over civil law even when the church is operating in the secular arena, and he seems eager to engage in battle to ensure that happens. He would apparently classify Scalia as just another Judas Iscariot, ready to “betray Jesus Christ by how they vote and how they willingly cooperate with intrinsic evil.”
As I said, he has exposed himself as a fool.
– Jay Bookman
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Oscar
April 18th, 2012
10:20 pm
I have always thought that the idea of not letting priests marry was not a good idea. Interesting read on how it got started in the church. Had a lot to do with money more than anything else. Allowing married priests would eliminate this problem, and would greatly improve the workings of the church in general.
Thulsa Doom
April 18th, 2012
10:22 pm
When i was in middle school the 8th grade football coach had a reputation for spooning the young 8th and 9th grade girls or getting abnormally close to them when no one was around. This was always a rumor and the girls were always weary of him and kinda of freaked out by him. This was nearly 30 years ago for me. A few months ago I’m at home in Montgomery and reading the paper and this coach who is now something like 60 was arrested for the rape of a 14 year old girl from the school. And then the levee broke on all kinds of other allegations.
Oscar
April 18th, 2012
10:22 pm
ElreyJone
April 18th, 2012
10:16 pm
______
Who says Rachel Maddow hates America. Never heard that one before.
Jay
April 18th, 2012
10:24 pm
“But I still love the man and the fact that he just irks the hell out of you libs. I mean the man just drives you guys nuts he do.”
Yeah, well, Barry Manilow drives me nuts too, which must make you a big Manilow fan, right Thulsa? Do you just swoon every time you hear the opening notes of “Mandy?”
Yeah, I thought so. :>)
G’night all.
And for my man Thulsa, a special lullaby and sweet dreams:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN1nynLMRl8
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
April 18th, 2012
10:24 pm
Never heard any stories about gay coaches, but have heard some stories about mostly football coaches with some strange ideas about violence, and heard stories about unethical behavior by coaches, lots of those stories around..
(sigh) For the record, pedophiles are NOT gay. they have a thing for children, they may have a gender of choice, BUT if they can not get to their gender of choice, they WILL molest any available child.
Oscar
April 18th, 2012
10:24 pm
Thulsa Doom
April 18th, 2012
10:22 pm
_______
My high school coach said he knew a lot of coaches that would have sex with their girl players. In the past that rarely was reported as long as their was consent.
Oscar
April 18th, 2012
10:27 pm
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
April 18th, 2012
10:24 pm
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Never heard any stories of pedophile coaches either. But I was talking about gay coaches, not pedophile coaches.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
April 18th, 2012
10:28 pm
I have always thought that the idea of not letting priests marry was not a good idea. Interesting read on how it got started in the church. Had a lot to do with money more than anything else. Allowing married priests would eliminate this problem, and would greatly improve the workings of the church in general
a pedophile is NOT interested in adults. Their only interest are in children. So marriage, either to an opposite gender OR the same gender, would NOT stop a pedophile from moleting kids.
Thulsa Doom
April 18th, 2012
10:29 pm
Jay,
Barry Manilow??? That was uncalled for sir. I’ld rather you challenged me to a contest of Rochambeaux- a nut kicking contest where the challenger gets to go first.
Mick
April 18th, 2012
10:31 pm
doom
Nugent doesn’t irk me, you all can have him. Some people are natural born a-holes, ted certainly qualifies in that sense. Regardless, he has popped out a few good tunes-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c3d7QgZr7g
Oscar
April 18th, 2012
10:31 pm
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
April 18th, 2012
10:28 pm
__________
Facts don’t support you. All of the allegations have been about sex with males and not young children of both sexes. And the males are older than young childre.
I could look it up, and wil later, but what is the age you consider in order to call the offense a pedophile offense.
They BOTH suck
April 18th, 2012
10:32 pm
TD
You must admit….. that was pretty funny……… I about fell off the couch
As for Nugent….. I’m in the Mick camp……. Great guitar player but wacky dude…..
With that said, I could really careless about his politics or the politics of any celebrity
Everyone have a great night and an even better tomorrow
They BOTH suck
April 18th, 2012
10:34 pm
Mick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqFUEcM9wR0&feature=related
And I’m gone
Thulsa Doom
April 18th, 2012
10:36 pm
“(sigh) For the record, pedophiles are NOT gay”
In the cases of Catholic priests I disagree Debbiedoright.They aren’t molesting girls. They exclusively molested boys which in my book simply means that they were in fact gay to begin with. They just prayed on the gender of their choice seeing as how they were gay. The football coach that I mentioned that I knew was of course straight seeing as how he prayed on young girls. I think that when the news media talked about the catholic priest abuses they were careful never to go into the sexuality of the priests themselves and left the assumption that they were maybe heterosexual but for whatever odd reason just wanted to molest boys instead of girls. I aint buying it and I chalk that up to nothing more than political correctness in the media. Plenty of heterosexual and homosexual pedophiles but to paint the Catholic priests as being heterosexual pedophiles i think is intellectually dishonest.
Oscar
April 18th, 2012
10:36 pm
The reference I looked up referred to children of age 13 or younger. Victums of the priests and coaches were usually 13 or older. Don’t think its so simple to call it a problem of attactrion to children.
Mick
April 18th, 2012
10:40 pm
they both suck
Thanks for some nuge, that’s one tune I didn’t particularly care for. That’s when he started to lose it…
Jay
April 18th, 2012
10:40 pm
If I got to go first, Thulsa, you’d be singing like Barry …
Mick
April 18th, 2012
10:42 pm
doom at 10:36
Possibly, absolutely correct sir! I’m leaving some wiggle room…
Oscar
April 18th, 2012
10:43 pm
Link for information. Most pedophiles have a preference for one sex or the other.
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/explaining-pedophilia
G Mare 71( got the living' the red state BLUES!)
April 18th, 2012
10:45 pm
Jay 1, Thulsa 0.
Oscar
April 18th, 2012
10:45 pm
Elvis once shot a tv when he saw Barry singing. Have to agree with Elvis on his taste, but I would have probaby just changed the channel.
Thulsa Doom
April 18th, 2012
10:46 pm
Oscar,
Yeah I’ve heard of it in high school but I’ll bet its a lot more prevalent in college. I remember former AU coach Terry Bowden was having a tit for tat in the media with a former assistant coach. The last salvo fired was when the assistant said something to the effect ” Coach Bowden needs to be quiet. He doesn’t want me to start talking about tigerettes and all that”. Never heard another comment from Bowden after that. Tigerettes were the cheerleaders or drill team gals at AU I can’t remember which.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
April 18th, 2012
10:47 pm
Oscar@ 10:31 – The exact AGE of the child is dependent upon the child’s prepubescent state. some children appear younger than what they are; however if they don’t exhibit any signs of puberty than they are a pedophile’s ideal victim.
Here’s the medical definition: As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia, or paedophilia, is defined as a psychiatric disorder in adults or late adolescents (persons age 16 or older) typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (generally age 13 years or younger, though onset of puberty may vary). The prepubescent child must be at least five years younger than the adolescent before the attraction can be diagnosed as pedophilia.
here’s the psychiatric definition: “Pedophilia is the act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children.”[9] This common use application also extends to the sexual interest in and abuse of pubescent or post-pubescent minors
And here’s the legal definition: Pedophiles are people with a sexual attraction to children. Manifest acts, such as taking sexually explicit photographs, molesting children and exposing one’s genitalia to children, are all crimes.
Pedophiles can be “treated” but never cured, because their sexual preference has always been, and always will be, children. Their urges will always be present
Jm
April 18th, 2012
10:47 pm
Oscar 10:20 agreed
Thulsa Doom
April 18th, 2012
10:48 pm
Jay,
I’ll even the score tomorrow. I already got one picked out jest for you.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
April 18th, 2012
10:52 pm
Doom- there are more male pedophiles than females (reportedly) YET all male pedophiles are NOT GAY. the medical and legal definition does not support the assumption that since a man molests a boy means that he is gay.
a gay person is interested in sex with the same gender in the appropriate AGE RANGE; NOT children.
there are very few people, as a percentage, in the world who are sexually attracted to CHILDREN — a true pedophile IS.
Adam
April 18th, 2012
10:53 pm
Did I really miss a pissing contest over who was the “mostest intelligent-est?”
Oscar
April 18th, 2012
10:56 pm
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
April 18th, 2012
10:47 pm
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No one disagrees with those definitions and the fact that it’s not curable.
So for the sake of argument, assuming the priests meet that definition, and assuming the incidence is greater in the priesthook, what is your theory as to why the higher concentration among priests.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
April 18th, 2012
10:56 pm
Oscar : Facts don’t support you. All of the allegations have been about sex with males and not young children of both sexes. And the males are older than young childre.
Maybe we’re talking apples and oranges here. All WHAT allegations? Are you talking about the allegations about the priests? Or are you talking about the Sandusky allegations? Or something else entirely?
Sandussky – had boys as OLD as 15 but as young as 10. Catholic church scandals reported both boys and girls of all ages.
Oscar
April 18th, 2012
10:57 pm
Adam
April 18th, 2012
10:53 pm
+++++++++
Yes, you did. I saw a few of the comments and it was not a pretty,thing.
Thulsa Doom
April 18th, 2012
10:58 pm
I don’t think they can be cured of pedophilia any more than I can be cured of heterosexuality. I just think that the pedophile goes for the children of the particular gender that he is attracted to. If he is a hetero pedophile then he’s gonna be one of them many pigs that lines up to go on sex tourism trips to Thailand to rape 12 year old girls. If he’s a gay pedophile then he may go into the priesthood or some type of coaching position that puts him in close promiximity to young boys.
Tommy Maddox
April 18th, 2012
11:00 pm
AP – Chicago: David Axelrod has announced that the Obama Campaign is releasing it’s new slogan in light of recently disclosed [or noticed] events:
“CAT – the other white eat.”
Tommy Maddox
April 18th, 2012
11:00 pm
“meat”
Oscar
April 18th, 2012
11:01 pm
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
April 18th, 2012
10:56 pm
————
In the comment you responded to I was talking about high school coaches and players on the teams. My statement was that I had not heard any stories from friends, etc. about high school coaches having sexual contacts with their players who would have been high school boys.
We do have a mixture going here about what allegations are being discussed.
MrLiberty
April 18th, 2012
11:02 pm
Obama is a socialist, a fascist, and a totalitarian. Yeah, so what’s the big deal with what the Bishops said? Frankly he seems almost proud of his behavior, his economic philosophy, and his belief that the presidency is like an imperial office (by the way, Bush was no different). Personally I think he wears all of these like badges of honor. Much like Stalin and Hitler I am sure that Obama loves how much fear he strikes in the hearts of those he rules over.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
April 18th, 2012
11:03 pm
Oscar @ 10:56 – I like Doom’s theory (but PLEASE don’t tell him that –I may get sick); i think most pedophiles position themselves to be around children at all times. and, as a priest within the cofines of the catholic church; a pedophile would hit paydirt.
They’d be in a place where they’d have unfettered access to children AND be seen as a prominent figure within the community and less likely to draw suspicion right away.
and judging by the past actions of the catholic church, if they got caught, all they had to do was “profess their sins to the archbishop”, repent, be sent to another parish, and start the whole process all over again.
to a pedophile, the preisthood probably was a dream come true.
Oscar
April 18th, 2012
11:04 pm
I am getting a little sick of this talk myself. Let’s let it drop and move on.
Thulsa Doom
April 18th, 2012
11:05 pm
“there are more male pedophiles than females (reportedly) YET all male pedophiles are NOT GAY”
Debbie I’m not saying all male pedophiles are GAY. Many are heterosexual pedophiles that go after young girls as opposed to boys. Others are gay pedophiles that go after young boys and pursue positions such as in the priesthood. To say that pedophiles aren’t also heterosexual or homosexual is nonsense. They are one or the other or possibly bisexual sickos. But if they are like the rest of the population then they generally break down as being strongly hetero or homo in preference.
Thulsa Doom
April 18th, 2012
11:07 pm
Oscar,
I hear ya. Subject change.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
April 18th, 2012
11:13 pm
Doom @ 11;05 – Perhaps. I’m basing my argument on the medical and legal definition of the WORD. Which does not mention a prevailing gender preference as the catalyst of the affliction of pedophilia it just mentions the fact that they’re attracted to children.
perhaps you’re right. I’d rather bite my tongue in half, lie naked reeking of honey on an ant bed, shoot my foot off, dance with the elephant man, kiss Bush, eat my own cooking for a month (althoug I AM getting better — taking classes), have sex with Limbaugh and tear out my throat with rusty pliers than ADMIT that you could be right……BUT,
I guess, EVEN YOU, could be right sometimes.
Martin Williams
April 18th, 2012
11:14 pm
Jay, what is wrong with America these days? The Catholic church especially needs to get out politics and worry about the damage they have done to little boys and girls for the past 100 years. Being a Catholic for the past 50+ years and they are really getting on my last nerve. You see some TV commercials begging Catholics to come back and they have this bishop saying stupid this like Obama is like Hitler. The problem with America right now is all these millions and millions churhes do not pay taxes. They all should start putting there monies where their mouths are and maybe it will keep them quite, pay taxes. Oh one more thing, the Obama administration has created more jobs in three than George W Bush did in eight.
BADA BING
April 18th, 2012
11:15 pm
The stories of obama eating a dog sure has a lot of tails……I mean tongues wagging.
The Thin Guy
April 18th, 2012
11:17 pm
Equating Jug Ears to Hitler or Stalin is ludicrous. Neither of them had a teleprompter. Guess Jay doesn’t consider Jemimah Wright or Fartinthecan to be religious leaders. Of course some one will retort that Hitler and Stalin killed millions. But as Comrade Stalin said: One death is a tragedy; a million deaths in a statistic. But if we get another 4 years of Hoax and Chains, Americans will split into two groups: people who pay taxes and parasites.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
April 18th, 2012
11:18 pm
Subject change – How about those Miami Heat guys huh? Anyone see their game against the Celtics last week? The Celtics whipped their behinds IN miami!!
I had them pegged for the playoffs but if they keep loosing, I may loose money……….
Adam
April 18th, 2012
11:18 pm
And the dog meat thing. Disgusting. I mean, no one wants a
foreign, I meannot American, I mean… crap….I suggest you guys keep talking about that since that’s the only way it’s going to gain any traction.
Actually i take that back. What you seem to fail to realize is that a strategy of “quick! find Obama’s strengths and/or attacks against me and turn them all around!” won’t help the dude win.
LeeH1
April 18th, 2012
11:20 pm
All Catholic bishops are angry that they no longer can call in the Inquisition and compel other people to follow their commands or be burned at the stake. That is why Protestantism was formed to protest against weird church teachings, such as sin indulgences, crusades and wars between various popes in Italy and France.
Many American ancestors came to America originally to get away from this religious crap and the hysterical and girly bishops. Ignore him, and let his silly rantings against good men come to naught.
BADA BING
April 18th, 2012
11:22 pm
obama eating dogs? Maybe we should all “Sit” for a moment and discuss this. We can use this opportunity to heel the growing rift between parties, use it as a cautionary tail. At leash we should have an open mind about this.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
April 18th, 2012
11:26 pm
Well gents, I’m out. To leave here on a positive note and to get the stench of the atrocities of the catholic church out of my mind, (before anyone has anything to say – I’m an ex-catholic; baptized in the faith, but left the church); since we were talking about favorite hymns earlier, I’ll leave you with this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNqAHrNNLqA
Goodnight fellows. My alarm rings irritatingly early…..
BADA BING
April 18th, 2012
11:27 pm
Dog on the roof, or eating a dog? I believe obama has a leg up on Mitt in this situation.
Thulsa Doom
April 18th, 2012
11:32 pm
Debbiedoright,
Don’t worry. You don’t have to sleep with Limbaugh in deference to me being right in my little theory. Reason being is its not me that’s right and its not my theory alone.It would be nice to claim that I’m right and that its my theory but it would be quite a theft from the psychologists and folks much smarter than ole Doomy. Its just something that I’ve read about several times as to why these folks attain positions as pillars of the community to then mask and hide their activities in an effort to be beyond reproach when a child makes a claim against their nefarious behavior. So when you have church leaders or people in positions of power like that who really want to be heavily involved in activities involving the kids have an extra wary eye. Many are just good people wanting to help. But some are not.
td
April 18th, 2012
11:33 pm
Looks like the Messiah and chief is drawing to pull the wool over the African American eyes now:
“President Barack Obama’s team is looking to hire more African-Americans, a search that has stirred a debate among black Democrats about Obama’s record on diversity and its implications for his reelection.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75323.html#ixzz1sSBkqEce
Thulsa Doom
April 18th, 2012
11:38 pm
td,
Other than Eric Holder its a pretty white administration and most of his closest advisors are white. This is an issue that’s largely been ignored but a couple of people have kinda noticed this as of late. Mostly liberals that have noticed.
Thulsa Doom
April 18th, 2012
11:39 pm
Doomy out. Yall have a good night.
td
April 18th, 2012
11:40 pm
Thulsa Doom
April 18th, 2012
11:38 pm
What do think would have happened if Bush had this little diversity in his administration? Would the CBC been so quiet? Would Sharpton and Jackson sat on their hands?
Thulsa Doom
April 18th, 2012
11:43 pm
td,
I’m hitting the sack but to be honest I’m kinda surprised its taken this long for people to notice. On top of not having more diversity its also the fact that a lot of his white liberals seem to be the academic types that disdain the common man who makes up the Dem party. Just an observation and jmho. Now Im really out.
td
April 18th, 2012
11:47 pm
Thulsa Doom
April 18th, 2012
11:43 pm
Sleep well.
BADA BING
April 18th, 2012
11:50 pm
Lost Dog
Washington DC
Last seen in the 1500-1700 Pennsylvania area
Reward
Oblama
April 18th, 2012
11:52 pm
And Oblama’s favorite preacher is the racist Reverund Rat.
ignatz
April 19th, 2012
12:07 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_Nazi_Germany
Appearing before 250,000 pilgrims at Lourdes in April 1935, Cardinal Pacelli said:
“[The Nazis] are in reality only miserable plagiarists who dress up old errors with new tinsel. It does not make any difference whether they flock to the banners of the social revolution, whether they are guided by a false conception of the world and of life, or whether they are possessed by the superstition of a race and blood cult.”
During Hitler’s visit to Rome in 1938, Pius XI and Pacelli avoided meeting with him by leaving Rome a month early for the papal summer residence of Castel Gandolfo.
The Vatican was closed, and the priests and religious brothers and sisters left in Rome were told not to participate in the festivities and celebrations surrounding Hitler’s Visit. On the Feast of the Holy Cross, Pius XI said from Castel Gandolfo, “It saddens me to think that today in Rome the cross that is worshipped is not the Cross of our Saviour.”
Peter Kent writes:
Once the Rome-Berlin Axis had been proclaimed, the Holy See sought to drive a wedge between Germany and Italy. In early January 1937, a series of articles in Osservatore Romano returned to the theme of denouncing the war of ideologies attendant on the Spanish Civil War, and as Mussolini sought to turn Italian opinion towards Germany, the Pope sought to turn it in the opposite direction. A public protest against the German treatment of the Church was called for so that there should be no doubt where the Pope stood and what attitude Catholics should take.[31]
Mit brennender Sorge
Main article: Mit brennender Sorge
The Catholic Church officially condemned the Nazi theory of racism in Germany in 1937 with the Encyclical “Mit Brennender Sorge”, signed by Pope Pius XI. Smuggled into Germany to avoid prior censorship and read from the pulpits of all German Catholic churches, it condemned Nazi ideology [32] as “insane and arrogant”. It denounced the Nazi myth of “blood and soil”, decried neopaganism of Nazism, its war of annihilation against the Church, and even described the Führer himself as a ‘mad prophet possessed of repulsive arrogance.’
Although there is some difference of opinion as to the impact of the document, it is generally recognized as the “first … official public document to criticize Nazism”. [35]
G Mare 71( got the living' the red state BLUES!)
April 19th, 2012
12:23 am
Interesting, Ignatz. Not sure if I buy it, but interesting nonetheless. Thanks for posting.
David Granger
April 19th, 2012
12:32 am
I swear, if it ain’t the giggle-sissy liberals throwing “nazi” and “Hitler” and “Stalin” around about Bush, it’s the damn right wing nutcakes throwing “nazi” and “Hitler” and “muslim” around about Obama.
Can’t we just pass some sort of ordinance that nobody can use these terms anymore in politics? (Unless you’re throwing ‘em around about that damn Hillary Clinton scum, of course…)
Oblama
April 19th, 2012
12:37 am
Can’t defend the Catholics or Oblama. Why is contraception in HEALTH care – other than the Dems are funded by Planned Parenthood and in return the Dems fund Planned Parenthood with our tax dollars. A major conflict of interest.
ken
April 19th, 2012
12:54 am
Rev Wright ??????????????
Oscar
April 19th, 2012
2:01 am
Enter your comments hereOblama
April 19th, 2012
12:37 am
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It’s there because it should be there. It is an accepted part of medical health care now and belongs there.
Erwin's cat
April 19th, 2012
5:19 am
stupid article…or new shiny object of distraction
Finn McCool
April 19th, 2012
5:21 am
Looks like Romney stuck foot in mouth again.
‘Hell, let’s go ahead and elect Romney. I mean, it’s their turn in the White House.
stands for decibels
April 19th, 2012
5:57 am
Who says Rachel Maddow hates America
People who’ve never bothered to watch her show, I’d guess.
JamVet
April 19th, 2012
6:25 am
Ban hoodies
Deport Obama
Win the War on Women!
God Loves Guns
Global Warming’s a Hoax
Hug a Billionaire
Hispanics Vamoose
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This dysfunctional new GOP could no longer see the political center with the Hubble Telescope.
http://blogs.ajc.com/mike-luckovich/?cxntlid=sldr_hm
MiltonMan
April 19th, 2012
6:26 am
Funny the Catholic clown failed to mention “The Church survived itself with the child molestation problems”
Funny to see Catholics turning on their own Democratic Party. Maybe there is hope for the “religion”.
Normal, Plain and Simple
April 19th, 2012
6:48 am
This “Religious Leader” is the poster child as to why religions are a joke. You don’t need religion to worship God. Quit listening to severely flawed “Religious Leaders” and listen to your heart.
stands for decibels
April 19th, 2012
6:54 am
Why is contraception in HEALTH care
I’ll have to search long and hard to find anything as stupid as this posted on the intertubes today.
TaxPayer
April 19th, 2012
7:00 am
Obama is the devil because the bible tells me so.
stands for decibels
April 19th, 2012
7:00 am
Catholics turning on their own Democratic Party.
I guess these same Bishops are instead embracing the Republicans when they refer to the Ryan plan as…well, let’s let the Bishops speak for themselves, shall we?
In April 16 and April 17 letters to the House Agriculture Committee and the House Ways and Means Committee addressing cuts required by the budget resolution, Bishop Blaire said “The House-passed budget resolution fails to meet these moral criteria.” Bishop Blaire also wrote that cuts to nutrition programs such as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP- food stamps) and the Child Tax Credit (CTC) will hurt hungry children, poor families, low-income workers and other vulnerable people. Additionally, he wrote that if cuts to the federal budget need to be made, savings should first be found in programs that target more affluent and powerful interests.
stands for decibels
April 19th, 2012
7:04 am
So in short, Milton, this same august body is calling Republicans “immoral” for attempting to legislate cuts to food programs.
You think that rank and file Catholics just ignore that stuff, and focus solely on the extremist anti-choice positions when they head to the voting booth?
Normal, Plain and Simple
April 19th, 2012
7:06 am
“Obama is the devil because the bible tells me so.
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Yesiree, it’s written in the “Bible Code”!
cloudodust
April 19th, 2012
7:06 am
I find that the Bishop must have scored points that the left finds out-of-bounds, but on the other hand, the left makes same and similar comparisons that go unchallenged on a daily basis. The left never finds a level playing field unless it’s them that toss out the same and similar…Hip-O-Krats = Dem-O-Krats
MiltonMan
April 19th, 2012
7:08 am
You tell me stands – you are the practicing Catholic here not me. Catholics tend to vote Democrat – go ahead and continue to argue that all day pal.
http://cara.georgetown.edu/Presidential%20Vote%20Only.pdf
stands for decibels
April 19th, 2012
7:09 am
Hip-O-Krats
Ok, Cloud, got a challenge for you. If you’re really pro-religious liberty, care to let me know what you think of the anti-Sharia legislation that’s either been passed, or proposed, in states across the country?
Normal, Plain and Simple
April 19th, 2012
7:09 am
Stands,
I also think that I read that in the high ninety percentile, the Catholic rank and file women use or have used contraceptives and do not want them taken away. They don’t want their Bishop’s in their bedrooms and good for them.
stands for decibels
April 19th, 2012
7:12 am
you are the practicing Catholic here
Woo hoo!
I’ve discovered I’m African-American, female and gay, thanks to the helpful posters here, but I didn’t know I was Catholic as well.
Jack
April 19th, 2012
7:15 am
Mckinney is a whacko, but I don’t think she ever called Bush a fool.
stands for decibels
April 19th, 2012
7:16 am
Milton, I’m really going to try to understand the point you seem to be making about Catholic voters.
Do you really think that — using Jay’s apt term here — the hysterical rant claiming Obama’s administration is headed toward the paths taken by totalitarian leaders, is really going to appeal to those RCC voters who are undecided, who are sway-able, if you will?
Is that your point?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
April 19th, 2012
7:20 am
Sadly, Bishop Jenky, like many folks who have “found religion”
he never made it to finding God.
He is no Christian.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
April 19th, 2012
7:22 am
Oh and if Catholics ever really listened to the Church leaders…
there’d be a whole hell of a lot more Catholics….
MiltonMan
April 19th, 2012
7:35 am
“I’ve discovered I’m African-American, female and gay, thanks to the helpful posters here, but I didn’t know I was Catholic as well.”
Do you turn your “religion” on/off like a light switch??? Do you not recall your post that I offended you and your “religion” when I stated that Catholics follow lock-and-step comparable to Hitler about 2-3 weeks ago??? I even spelled Hitler as Hilter???
You went into a tirade and threatened “report my comment” because it was so offensive to you.
Mick
April 19th, 2012
7:36 am
Not much more to say except these activist bishops really are no more than a paper tiger – no ones listening and the ones that are, feel disgusted with the politics…
stands for decibels
April 19th, 2012
7:43 am
Do you not recall your post that I offended you and your “religion” when I stated that Catholics follow lock-and-step comparable to Hitler about 2-3 weeks ago?
Vaguely, now that you mention it. (I read a lot of stupid crap and respond to way too much of it.)
So… you assume I’m Catholic because I was offended by the assertion you’d made about RCC members? You assume I wouldn’t defend RCC members if I weren’t one myself? Wow.
Stevie Ray...Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right..here I am...
April 19th, 2012
7:46 am
Not to be redundant but the church, particularly of the Catholic flavor, is fighting for relevancy similar to unions and global warming proponents….in 20 years, all three will be supported by a fraction of current which is a fraction of those supporters 20 years past.
Donovan
April 19th, 2012
7:56 am
I don’t know what liberals are afraid of when religion is in confrontation with their vision of the world, but it is amusing to see them come all unraveled.
With such a Godless bunch I guess it is understandable to realize that like Hitler and Stalin, liberals feel threatened by organized religion.
However, liberals covet and support organized labor. Go figure!
Mick
April 19th, 2012
7:57 am
donovan
Stereotype much? You are the equivalent of a one channel tv…
Doggone/GA
April 19th, 2012
8:00 am
“Stereotype much? You are the equivalent of a one channel tv”
Stereotyping…because it’s easier than actually thinking
stevie ray...clowns to the left, jokers to the right..here I am...
April 19th, 2012
8:01 am
DONOVAN
I’m not a liberal but also have no imaginary friends…that must baffle you. IMO, the church has poisoned everything it has touched and most importantly, served to retard scientific and social development. It’s positon on sex, heaven, and hell are nothing short of idiotic. They did organize the calendar and did great job charting moon’s relationship with earth….that’s about it.
Mick
April 19th, 2012
8:02 am
stevie ray
So…I guess you won’t be spending much time in purgatory?
Adam
April 19th, 2012
8:05 am
Stevie Ray: To be fair, those two things you mentioned didn’t need religious motivation to happen. Although with the calendar I can see “desire for order” being high on the list of motivations.
Peadawg
April 19th, 2012
8:07 am
Stereotyping…because most of them are true. Don’t like a stereotype? Do something about it instead of whining.
Adam
April 19th, 2012
8:07 am
And don’t worry guys, Donovan has just been reading Ann Coulter’s bullsh*t on how everything liberals do is government religious or labor religious or… well it’s just INCONCEIVABLE that one might have motivations for doing ANYTHING if it’s not religious SOMEHOW!
Normal, Plain and Simple
April 19th, 2012
8:08 am
Mick,
About that…
“In summary, the doctrine of purgatory is unbiblical. Its foundation lies not in Biblical scripture, but in Catholic Tradition. The Apocrypha should not be considered part of Biblical scripture, and the verses in the New Testament were twisted to fit an already established doctrine.”
http://www.contenderministries.org/Catholicism/purgatory.php
Adam
April 19th, 2012
8:09 am
Normal: Speaking of which, did you know it was once church belief that reincarnation existed?
Mick
April 19th, 2012
8:10 am
normal
I think they also had another place called limbo, for the unbaptized babies. Now, it’s just a dead end place for wingers and dittoheads…
Doggone/GA
April 19th, 2012
8:13 am
“Stereotyping…because most of them are true”
Thank you for confirming my point.