Charges reportedly pending in Trayvon Martin death
While we still don’t have anything close to a full accounting of the night that George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin, the prosecuting attorney assigned to investigate apparently believes that she has uncovered enough cause to press charges:
Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey plans to announce as early as Wednesday afternoon that she is charging neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, according to a law enforcement official close to the investigation.
It was not immediately clear what charge Zimmerman will face….
Corey told reporters Tuesday night that she would hold a news conference about the case within 72 hours. A news release from her office said the event will be held in Sanford or Jacksonville, Fla.
If charges are filed, it would validate public outrage at the fact that prosecutors initially declined to pursue the case against Zimmerman. It doesn’t mean that the former neighborhood-watch captain is guilty; it does mean that officials may have been hasty in their initial decision.
– Jay Bookman
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Bosch
April 11th, 2012
3:26 pm
Good. I think its pretty obvious the guy over stepped his authority – or rather lack of it.
Bosch
April 11th, 2012
3:26 pm
Firsties? Oh, yes!! It’s been so long.
Fred ™
April 11th, 2012
3:27 pm
2nd degree murder or manslaughter at the very east.
Thulsa Doom
April 11th, 2012
3:30 pm
He’s guilty! Or at least many have already decided it to be so.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 11th, 2012
3:30 pm
The guy was a wannabe cop.
When Jeb Bush and the Republicans passed the “Stand your ground” law this is the eventual outcome.
Vigilantism.
Forgot the police ill shoot first and ask questions later.
Also im pretty sure the law only works one way.
If a black man had shot a white man and claimed self defense he would have been under the jailhouse two months ago with a capital murder case awaiting him.
Thulsa Doom
April 11th, 2012
3:33 pm
“If charges are filed, it would validate public outrage at the fact that prosecutors initially declined to pursue the case against Zimmerman”
Nope. If charges are filed its probably more due to political pressure and intimidation politics than anything else.
Funny but I remember in Jay’s column about this last week that Jay said the police did practically no investigation. The next day it was revealed that they grilled Zimmerman for 5 hours when they took him into custody that night. No investigation huh Jay?
carlosgvv
April 11th, 2012
3:33 pm
Now that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have started to get “justice for Travon”, how long will it take them to come to Atlanta and organized demonstrations for “justice for Irvin”. Who is he, you ask? He is that 18 year old black man who, while unarmed, was gunned down by two black security guards. It can’t be that Jesse and Al are only interested in Travon because he was shot by a white-Hispanic and care nothing for Irvin because he was shot by two blacks. Can it?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 11th, 2012
3:34 pm
I mean seriously, a 17 year old kid armed with Skittles and a Sweet Tea should make it back to his house without worrying about being followed and ultimately shot.
Thulsa Doom
April 11th, 2012
3:34 pm
“If a black man had shot a white man and claimed self defense he would have been under the jailhouse two months ago with a capital murder case awaiting him.”
Not intended to be a factual statement.
TaxPayer
April 11th, 2012
3:35 pm
Zimmerman is guilty of shooting and killing Trayvon and a trial is the only logical step to take in order for justice to be served.
Peadawg
April 11th, 2012
3:36 pm
I doubt there’s much evidence.
She probably has some bs charge b/c of public outrage. Hell, the DA couldn’t even come up with something.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 11th, 2012
3:37 pm
It can’t be that Jesse and Al are only interested in Travon because he was shot by a white-Hispanic and care nothing for Irvin because he was shot by two blacks. Can it?
Yes it can and should be.
Black on Black crime is punished very harshly in this country already
White violent crime against minorities not so much.
They are totally justified in what they are doing.
Mid Ga Retiree
April 11th, 2012
3:37 pm
Since the news media has already tried and convicted him, why not just go ahead and announce the sentence.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 11th, 2012
3:38 pm
She probably has some bs charge b/c of public outrage
Funny when 17 year old kids with skittles are gunned down in the street sometimes “BS” charges follow.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 11th, 2012
3:39 pm
Since the news media has already tried and convicted him, why not just go ahead and announce the sentence.
That will come later when he has a trial. Finally.
Peadawg
April 11th, 2012
3:39 pm
“Since the news media has already tried and convicted him, why not just go ahead and announce the sentence.”
No kiddin….
JamVet
April 11th, 2012
3:40 pm
Since every Republican from here to Spokane has already exonerated him, why not just go ahead and forgo the trial?
Howard University Trayvon Martin
April 11th, 2012
3:41 pm
“Am I Suspicious?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH5bB8HUWFs
Thulsa Doom
April 11th, 2012
3:41 pm
“It can’t be that Jesse and Al are only interested in Travon because he was shot by a white-Hispanic and care nothing for Irvin because he was shot by two blacks. Can it?”
B
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Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 11th, 2012
3:42 pm
Since every Republican from here to Spokane has already exonerated him, why not just go ahead and forgo the trial?
Exactly. I mean he was BLACK and he did have skittles and a hoodie.
Maybe he deserved to be shot.
Peadawg
April 11th, 2012
3:43 pm
JamVet, how is this a republican vs. democrat thing? What an idiotic comment.
Thulsa Doom
April 11th, 2012
3:44 pm
“Black on Black crime is punished very harshly in this country already
White violent crime against minorities not so much.”
More non factual statements posing as factual. Just another person who doesn’t understand the difference between an opinion and a fact.
Gordon
April 11th, 2012
3:45 pm
How about that? The system worked. Just like it would have without all the rabblerousing.
BuckeyeInGa
April 11th, 2012
3:46 pm
just wanted an investigation..
Thulsa Doom
April 11th, 2012
3:46 pm
JamVet,
I don’t think anyone has exonerated Zimm. What people like me are saying is that there are 2 sides to every story and lets let the facts come out. How and why people on here have already convicted the man without knowing all the facts is amazing. It speaks more to bloodlust and hate than anything else.
JohnnyReb
April 11th, 2012
3:46 pm
“If charges are filed, it would validate public outrage at the fact that prosecutors initially declined to pursue the case against Zimmerman. It doesn’t mean that the former neighborhood-watch captain is guilty; it does mean that officials may have been hasty in their initial decision.”
Nope
It means the prosecutor bowed to political pressure, plus bringing charges was a given.
Why with all the controversy did she not empanel a grand jury?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 11th, 2012
3:47 pm
More non factual statements posing as factual. Just another person who doesn’t understand the difference between an opinion and a fact.
Very very factual.
Normally I dont respond to you maam but you are an idiot.
It is very true that black on white crime is punished FAR more severely in this country than white on black crime.
It aint even close.
Aquagirl
April 11th, 2012
3:47 pm
Since the news media has already tried and convicted him, why not just go ahead and announce the sentence.
So sorry your Constitutional right to stalk black men is being violated.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 11th, 2012
3:49 pm
How and why people on here have already convicted the man without knowing all the facts is amazing. It speaks more to bloodlust and hate than anything else.
A 17 year old kid with skittles was gunned down in the street. It took two months and alot of political pressure just to get this far. And you wonder why people are upset?
Thulsa Doom
April 11th, 2012
3:49 pm
“Am I Suspicious?”
I dunno. Are you one of them guys that we see every night on the local news caught on camera holding up a liquor or convenience store and wearing a hoodie. I can’t remember the last time I saw one where the perpetrator wasn’t wearing a hoodie.
JohnnyReb
April 11th, 2012
3:49 pm
Holy Cow, Thulsa. I wrote my post looking at Page 1, then low and behold on page 2 where it posted the first part of your and my posts are almost identical.
JamVet
April 11th, 2012
3:50 pm
Peadawg, wake up and read their comments.
The first night this topic showed up here, corporal by the numbers went through some of the most incredible spine pretzeling maneuvers I’ve ever seen, to defend the killer.
Including cutting and pasting completely irrelevant links about how blacks dress when they go to interviews.
He further went on to say that wearing a hoodie is stupid. Even when it is drizzling out.
Don’t ask me, his particular brand of racism is hard to figure out.
He was not alone.
The kid was black and “suspicious”. That is all they need.
Peadawg
April 11th, 2012
3:50 pm
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
Why do you automatically not mention Zimmerman’s side that kid followed him back to his car and started beating him?
BuckeyeInGa
April 11th, 2012
3:51 pm
@Thula
I don’t think anyone has exonerated Zimm. What people like me are saying is that there are 2 sides to every story and lets let the facts come out
I agree. The facts not coming out is what started the uproar. The parents asked for the 911 tape. The parents wouldn’t release them..After a couple of weeks they called Sharpton to help..the 911 tapes were released soon after.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 11th, 2012
3:51 pm
So sorry your Constitutional right to stalk black men is being violated.
Well put.
Again do you think if this had been a 17 year old white kid shot by a black man it would have taken this long ? Would he have been able to claim self defense ?
Are you really that stupid ?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 11th, 2012
3:54 pm
Why do you automatically not mention Zimmerman’s side that kid followed him back to his car and started beating him?
Hadn’t heard that one. Is that what he is claiming this week.
Funny with a broke nose none of the police noticed and he wasn’t taken to a hospital.
Why is that ?
BuckeyeInGa
April 11th, 2012
3:54 pm
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
Why do you automatically not mention Zimmerman’s side that kid followed him back to his car and started beating him
Assuming that is true. Why did Zimmerman get out of the car when 911 told him the police were on their way?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
April 11th, 2012
3:55 pm
I dunno. Are you one of them guys that we see every night on the local news caught on camera holding up a liquor or convenience store and wearing a hoodie. I can’t remember the last time I saw one where the perpetrator wasn’t wearing a hoodie.
Wow…. Just wow….
Peadawg
April 11th, 2012
3:56 pm
“Why did Zimmerman get out of the car when 911 told him the police were on their way?” – Who knows but by doing that…what law he break?
JamVet
April 11th, 2012
3:56 pm
Thulsa, he killed that kid. Why?
Whether it was justified remains to be seen.
Also, Peadawg, ask yourself why NOT ONE misnamed conservative here even made mention of those two whites in Tulsa who killed those black people randomly last week.
Seems like Corporal would have been ALL over that one, huh?
Since he and 71 and more than a few others here are completely obsessed with black on white crimes and post links every single chance they get to further that argument.
But he, nor any of them, has made nary a peep about it.
To this day.
Hmmm, wonder why that is?
Peadawg
April 11th, 2012
3:56 pm
Thulsa Doom
April 11th, 2012
3:49 pm
Wow….
(ir)Rational
April 11th, 2012
3:57 pm
Pea – In that instant he became the aggressor and was no longer “standing his ground.” Which means the law he has been hiding behind doesn’t apply to this particular case.
JF McNamara
April 11th, 2012
3:58 pm
No one here knows what happened, so you’re yelling back and forwards for no reason. Frankly, I don’t really care about the outcome anymore.
Zimmerman and Martin’s family will get their day in court. If my kid had been killed, I would at least want that. Justice has been served in my mind.
JohnnyReb
April 11th, 2012
3:58 pm
It looks to me there are more people wishing the case has something to do with race than there are those who actually just want justice
Sorta like the NBC producer who was fired for deleting the audio where the dispatcher asked Zimmerman about the boys race?
If there is not some crap about race constantly being stirred, what excuse would some have for their inability to assimilate?
Thulsa Doom
April 11th, 2012
3:58 pm
“A 17 year old kid with skittles was gunned down in the street.”
If your mind is that of a simpleton then of course that’s how you would view it. Unfortunately its not quite that simple. Allegedly when the cops told Zimm to break off following Tray he did. He then get out of his truck to walk up to an apt building to copy down the address to call it back in to the cops. When he walked back to his truck he was allegedly confronted by trayvon who allegedly asked him if he had a problem. He replied no to which trayvon allegedly replied “you do now” and jumped him. This is Zimm’s story and the story is pretty consistent considering the only eyewitness said T was on top of Z “pounding his head into the concrete”. Its also consistent that when the paramedics came Z had a bloody nose and a laceration “on the back of the head”, allegedly from being jumped on and beaten by Trayvon. Zimm’s story has been pretty consistent, the injuries he suffered are consistent with his story, and then there is the matter of the one eyewitness whose testimony further backs up Zimm’s account of what happened.
What you simpletons can’t seem to understand is that once he broke off and was just walking back to his truck he was allegedly then attacked by T. At that point its a case of self defense if indeed the attack went down this way. And proving that it didn’t go down this way is a pretty high bar to prove according to what some have said on here regarding Florida law.
Not saying Zimm is innocent. Just saying that so far he looks to be pretty consistent and that once again there are 2 sides to every story. Or are you and Maxine Waters and the “no justice, no peace” lynch mob ready to hang him without a trial? Because from what I’ve read on here a lot of you have already convicted the man without giving any semblance of a thought regarding his side of the story.
Peadawg
April 11th, 2012
3:58 pm
“even made mention of those two whites in Tulsa who killed those black people randomly last week.” – I haven’t seen that on ajc, yahoo, etc (we already know the media is biased). Got a link?
Peadawg
April 11th, 2012
4:00 pm
“In that instant he became the aggressor and was no longer “standing his ground.” Which means the law he has been hiding behind doesn’t apply to this particular case.”
But IF what Zimmerman says is true, if all Zimmerman did was walk up to Martin, ask him some questions and walks away…then Martin becomes the aggressor when he follows Zimmerman back to his car and beats him.
I’m really interested in what charge and what the evidence is.
BuckeyeInGa
April 11th, 2012
4:00 pm
“Why did Zimmerman get out of the car when 911 told him the police were on their way?” – Who knows but by doing that…what law he break?
No laws were broke but not listening let to at someone’s life being lost..His life might be lost as well.
Bosch
April 11th, 2012
4:01 pm
That kid had more right to defend himself — he was being stalked by a dude with a gun. The “Stand Your Ground” law is more relevant to Martin attacking himself than Zimmerman.
We have no place in our society for vigilantes.
Bernie
April 11th, 2012
4:01 pm
Jay. oh how this story line goes aginst the very comments you made a week or so ago on this subject matter. Zimmerman will get his day in court, he will get arrested and he will quite proably be found guilty. As a non minority person your view and many of your commenters here have a far different perception of the U.S. crimminal justice system. The reality of all minorites experience in this system is the real world and how it truly operates. The Sanford Police Dept as well as many other police departments around the nation are just as corrupt. Just look at some of the most recent cases here in Atlanta. The most egregous was MRS. JOHNSTON. a Old Black woman living alone having her door kicked in during the night on LIES and TRUMPED up charges. Intially as in Travon many readers supported the police version until the Federal Govt exposed all of the lies involved. To this very day I fear any local policeman or woman more than any TERRORIST from abroad.
Get your CROW sandwich prepared for DINNER! it wil be served shortly!
(ir)Rational
April 11th, 2012
4:02 pm
Pea – Just a “both sides of the story” type question. Did Martin have the right to stand his ground and defend himself if he felt (obviously with reason) that Zimmerman was a threat to him?
Peadawg
April 11th, 2012
4:04 pm
” Just a “both sides of the story” type question.” – Exactly. It’s just pathetic that the media and so many others forget Zimmerman’s side.
Again…lookin’ forward to 6 pm tonight.
(ir)Rational
April 11th, 2012
4:05 pm
Pea – I’m not forgetting his side of the story, but it has to be one heck of a story before I’m going to think there was anything even close to justification for him shooting an unarmed teenager in the street.
JohnnyReb
April 11th, 2012
4:05 pm
This thread is amazing. Not one of you have any offical, factual information but you know exactly what happened, who is gulity, and that it all comes down to race. You are not any better with this than you are with your politics.
BuckeyeInGa
April 11th, 2012
4:06 pm
Allegedly when the cops told Zimm to break off following Tray he did. He then get out of his truck to walk up to an apt building to copy down the address to call it back in to the cops. When he walked back to his truck he was allegedly confronted by trayvon who allegedly asked him if he had a problem.
if he uses that defense he’s going to jail.. a regular resident might not know where they are at but someone who is watching the gated community knows where they are and can describe it to police from the vehicle..
Peadawg
April 11th, 2012
4:06 pm
OFF TOPIC
Anyone else seen the rumor about there being no crash (have you seen the photo? motorcycle is gently laid on a tree branch). The girl’s fiance allegedly followed them and whooped Petrino’s ars. No wounder Petrino didn’t call the cops.
Thulsa Doom
April 11th, 2012
4:08 pm
“Thulsa, he killed that kid. Why?”
JamVet,
I think all the way around its just a horribly unfortunate event. But if Zimm and that’s a big IF he is telling the truth and that he was jumped on the way back to his truck after breaking off pursuit then its a clear cut case of self defense- Self defense if trayvon was indeed on top of him breaking his nose with punches and pounding his head into the concrete. According to the eyewitness this is what happened and that Zimm was looking at him and pleading “help me, help me”. If the man really was getting the crap beat out of him and thought he was going to be killed is it any wonder he pulled for his gun?
Sure Zimm could have avoided the entire situation by not playing wannabe cop. But if he stopped pursuit and was going back to his truck when he was allegedly attacked by Trayvon then at that point he is in a defensive posture. Seems to me that a lot of people on here simply don’t care to hear about this and already made up their minds regardless of the facts and in their bloodlust they want him . And that is a shame.
And lastly I’m not saying the man is innocent. He may well be guilty. I’m just saying that lets let the system run its course and let all the facts come out.
Aquagirl
April 11th, 2012
4:09 pm
Why do you automatically not mention Zimmerman’s side that kid followed him back to his car and started beating him
Just for the record, if I am ever shot to death while fighting a creepy stalker, I’m not offended if you put them on trial. I have this quaint notion that someone stalking me with a gun may present a threat.
Of course as a white hoodie-less women lacking Skittles and iced tea, I am entitled to that notion.
(ir)Rational
April 11th, 2012
4:09 pm
Pea – I was/still am confused about what exactly the controversy is. Did he hire her because she was his mistress? Or did that start after she started working? I mean, he is getting a lot of crap for having an affair.
carlosgvv
April 11th, 2012
4:09 pm
Pass the Chessy Grits Please – “Black on Black crime is punished very harshly”
And yet, the two Black men involved in the shooting of Ervin were questioned by the police and then released. Meanwhile, Ervin’s parents are pleading for justice to be done. Looks like someone forgot to tell the police in this case that “Black on Black crime is punished very harshly in this country”.
Bernie
April 11th, 2012
4:10 pm
Its truly a SHAME that in 2012 African Americans are still having to resort to Loud Protest and MARCHES in the street just to get basic justice equality in America. The days after 911, the claims that “We are all Americans NOW” was never true then and it is still not true TODAY! The difference between now and then was mainstream America felt threatened.
TaxPayer
April 11th, 2012
4:11 pm
Where is Zimmerman. Shouldn’t he be standing his ground.
Peadawg
April 11th, 2012
4:12 pm
“Did he hire her because she was his mistress?” – That’s what it looks like.
The reason he was fired is because he wasn’t upfront w/ the affair after the “crash”. Plus an SEC school put family values before winning, which is nice.
Bernie
April 11th, 2012
4:13 pm
Aquagirl @ 4:09 pm – “Why do you automatically not mention Zimmerman’s side that kid followed him back to his car and started beating him”
BECAUSE IT DID NOT HAPPEN THAT WAY! DO YOU UNDERSTAND!
THAT IS A UNVALIDATED AND UN SUPPORTED RUMOR BY THE FACTS ON THE GROUND!
Thulsa Doom
April 11th, 2012
4:13 pm
Bosch,
If Zimm allegedly broke off pursuit and was on his way back to the truck then how is he still stalking Trayvon if he is now in the posture of walking away from the pursuit? And how is it stalking if Trayvon came around the other side and attacked Zimm. After all we do know that T was on top of Z kicking his ass according to the only eyewitness on the scene.
BuckeyeInGa
April 11th, 2012
4:14 pm
And yet, the two Black men involved in the shooting of Ervin were questioned by the police and then released. Meanwhile, Ervin’s parents are pleading for justice to be done. Looks like someone forgot to tell the police in this case that “Black on Black crime is punished very harshly in this country”.
it’s black on black crime even though the guys were security guards? Everytime a black police officer shoots a black person that must be black on black crime as well..
St Simons - we're on Island time
April 11th, 2012
4:14 pm
The AM radio clowns is nuttin up over this, 24/7
I listen to the enemy, and I’ve been wondering, ‘why this obsession’?
Now I think I understand why.
Its a perfect orgasmic storm of every teapotty wingnut hot button issue.
“They gon take yore gunz”
“hooded black kid” emphasis on words with “hood” in them
“white man can’t defend his sov-rin-teh”
vigilante justice – yay
“badges? – we don’t need no stinkin badges”
the repressed Clint Eastwood hiding in these Walter Mitty cons
the cop/authority fantasy delusion
stalking with a pickup truck
It’s all there.
I’m so glad this is a shrinking fetid pool of disordered viscera,
shrinking every day as we march forward into the 21st century.
TaxPayer
April 11th, 2012
4:14 pm
I’m glad to see people beginning to agree that there should have been plans for a trial all along.
Butch Cassidy
April 11th, 2012
4:15 pm
Apparently folks on here weren’t aware that “skittles” is code for the Glock 9mm semi automatic with armour piercing rounds. Zimmerman acted accordingly.
Disclaimer: None of the above should be considered, re-posted or cited as actual fact.
Peadawg
April 11th, 2012
4:15 pm
“BECAUSE IT DID NOT HAPPEN THAT WAY!” – You got proof?
(ir)Rational
April 11th, 2012
4:16 pm
Pea – Who is ever upfront about an affair? Isn’t that kinda built-in to the definition? If he hired her because of their relationship, he probably deserved to be fired. However, I’m more than a little surprised that an SEC school put anything before football.
BuckeyeInGa
April 11th, 2012
4:16 pm
I was/still am confused about what exactly the controversy is. Did he hire her because she was his mistress? Or did that start after she started working? I mean, he is getting a lot of crap for having an affair
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the issue isn’t the affair. The issue is that he hired her over 115 candidates, despite her having no experience. He had to be fired..and that still might not stop the lawsuits…plus I didn’t even mention he gave her 20k..
AngryRedMarsWoman
April 11th, 2012
4:16 pm
“I mean, he is getting a lot of crap for having an affair.”
With a subordinate…who received a strange $20k payment from the department at his direction. Not just some simple affair, but one that exposed the school to all manner of sexual harassment/discrimination claims. Don’t crap where you eat….or you won’t be eating there for much longer.
Thulsa Doom
April 11th, 2012
4:17 pm
“BECAUSE IT DID NOT HAPPEN THAT WAY!”
Were you there Bernie? Or are you psychic and know for a fact that it didn’t happen the way Zimm said it happened?
” DO YOU UNDERSTAND!
THAT IS A UNVALIDATED AND UN SUPPORTED RUMOR BY THE FACTS ON THE GROUND!”
Bernie do you understand that Zimm’s account is at least partially validated by the only eyewitness on the scene? And do you further understand that Zimm’s broken nose and lacerations on the back of his head are also consistent with his story?
And do you also understand that according to some people on here who supposedly know the Fla. law better than you or I that the burden for the state to emphatically prove that Zimm is lying about his account of what happened is very high?
Butch Cassidy
April 11th, 2012
4:19 pm
In other news, when questioned about the firing of Coach Petirno and his alleged affair with a 25 year old woman. Presidential candidate Newt Gingrich commented ” Hey, who hasn’t” ?
Thulsa Doom
April 11th, 2012
4:19 pm
Buckeye,
Its not just the legal exposure that Petrino brought to u of ark by hiring his mistress. Its also the fact that he lied to his boss about the whole situation initially. Not good.
BuckeyeInGa
April 11th, 2012
4:20 pm
Bernie do you understand that Zimm’s account is at least partially validated by the only eyewitness on the scene?
Validated which part of the account? Martin following Zimmerman to his car?
Contrarian
April 11th, 2012
4:20 pm
Good. Dude was trigger happy and deserves to be punished.
Lyman Hall
April 11th, 2012
4:22 pm
Let this be a lesson…………………………….NEVER call the Cops.
Brosephus™
April 11th, 2012
4:22 pm
If charges are filed its probably more due to political pressure and intimidation politics than anything else.
Nope. If it were political, he would have been charged long ago.
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carlos
If you go back and look, Dekalb Co. “charged” those guys with impersonating an officer. That means they were a-r-r-e-s-t-e-d. Big difference between the two cases. Dekalb is still investigating that case as well.
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JamVet
Seems like Corporal would have been ALL over that one, huh?
If I remember correctly, Scout did address that case, and Paul or somebody else gave him accolades for calling it the same as he’s called the Martin case.
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Pea @ 4:00
That’s a very big IF. From what I’ve seen in the police reports, eyewitness statements, and heard on the 911 tapes, Zimmerman’s story does not match the evidence of the case. His legal team will have to work hard to make that IF sound plausible.
BuckeyeInGa
April 11th, 2012
4:23 pm
Thulsa
Its not just the legal exposure that Petrino brought to u of ark by hiring his mistress. Its also the fact that he lied to his boss about the whole situation initially. Not good
oh that was a bad part..BUT he took that school to a BCS game and was on track to have another good season..I don’t think lying would have hurt Petrino because he making the school a lot of money. I doubt the boosters would’ve went along if it was all about lying..
(ir)Rational
April 11th, 2012
4:23 pm
Yeah, I haven’t really followed the Petrino thing too much. Didn’t really care. Now throw me some good red-meat about Richt getting fired for having an affair and I’ll start paying attention.
JamVet
April 11th, 2012
4:23 pm
Peadawg, I would wager that there is not one major website in this country that did not carry this story extensively.
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/documents-2-suspects-confessed-1412158.html?printArticle=y
http://news.yahoo.com/2-charged-murder-tulsa-shooting-rampage-142411298.html
And yet every single racially obsessed con here seems to have “missed” it.
Here are some excerpts for the corporal, 71 and the rest of them:
Two held on $9 million bail in Tulsa rampage
Two Oklahoma men were held on more than $9 million bond Monday following a shooting rampage that claimed three lives, injured two, and shook Tulsa’s black community.
Alvin Watts, 32, and Jake England, 19, appeared before Judge Bill Hiddle via teleconference from the Tulsa County Jail Monday. They wore orange jumpsuits and said nothing as the judge set bail in a session that lasted less than two minutes.
The two men are held on suspicion of three counts of first-degree murder, two counts of attempted murder and one count of possession of a firearm with intent to kill, NBC News reported, in a shooting spree that targeted people in predominantly black neighborhoods.
“Today is two years that my dad has been gone shot by a f—— n—– it’s hard not to go off between that and sheran I’m gone in the head,” he wrote, according to the Tulsa World.
Sheran was Sheran Hart Wilde, England’s fiancée, who killed herself in January.
Those killed in the alleged shooting spree were identified as Dannaer Fields, 49, Bobby Clark, 54, and William Allen, 31. All are black.
Nary a peep.
Thulsa Doom
April 11th, 2012
4:24 pm
TaxPayer
April 11th, 2012
4:11 pm
“Where is Zimmerman.Shouldn’t he be standing his ground.”
You would probably be in hiding too if there was a million dollar bounty on your head and Al and Jesse and others were ratchetting up the “no justice, no peace” lynch mob crowd. Judging by the experinces of his parents of death threats and such and of the couple who were harassed with Spike Lee’s erroneous tweet Zimmerman has good reason to fear the vigilante mobs.
Peadawg
April 11th, 2012
4:24 pm
“In other news, when questioned about the firing of Coach Petirno and his alleged affair with a 25 year old woman. Presidential candidate Newt Gingrich commented ” Hey, who hasn’t” ?”
That’s nothing…you must have missed Tiger Woods and Damon Evans’s statements.
Tiger – “Dude, only 1 mistress? Loser…”
Damon Evans – “Did she have red panties?”
Aquagirl
April 11th, 2012
4:25 pm
I mean, he is getting a lot of crap for having an affair.”
With a subordinate…who received a strange $20k payment from the department at his direction. Not just some simple affair, but one that exposed the school to all manner of sexual harassment/discrimination claims.
The amount of men who are all “huh?” about this is scary. If you don’t understand banging your direct subordinates and giving them cash bonuses is not just a personal matter, I sure as hell don’t want to work anywhere you do.
JamVet
April 11th, 2012
4:26 pm
TP, I wrote within a day of this breaking story, that the new LAPD – the Sanford Police Dept – would end up with serious egg on their faces for this apparently pitiful police work.
Florida’s GOP governor, Jeb Bush, said he could not understand how there was no arrest…
Thulsa Doom
April 11th, 2012
4:27 pm
Buckeye,
I think the combination of all those things- lying to his boss, putting the school in legal danger of a harassment suit, and the sheer embarassment and humiliation of it all was just too much for him to keep his job. And besides how in the hell would he keep discipline around there if the young men who look up to him see him as nothing more than a liar and a varmint. He wasn’t exactly a role model to begin with.
Don't Tread
April 11th, 2012
4:27 pm
“It doesn’t mean that the former neighborhood-watch captain is guilty”
Oh, but wait, yes he is! Jesse, Al, and the rest of the Travelin’ Race Baitin’ Pimpshow said so.
Peadawg
April 11th, 2012
4:28 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/l-firefighter-arrested-fighting-mma-bouts-while-workman-195359179.html
Idiot…
Looney Bin
April 11th, 2012
4:28 pm
All I’ve heard since day 1 is to wait for the facts to come out. Now that a special prosecutor has investigated and determined there should be charges filed, many of you simply dismiss it as ‘BS’.
Sounds like you all only wanted to wait for the facts as long as they confirmed your beliefs of what happened that night. Sad.
Contrarian
April 11th, 2012
4:28 pm
Good, balanced article from Dershowitz, here: http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/opinion/dershowitz-trayvon-prosecutor-nightmare/index.html?hpt=hp_t1.
Midori
April 11th, 2012
4:29 pm
Hi Boschie
JamVet
April 11th, 2012
4:30 pm
A vigilante killer hiding from a would be vigilante mob.
Karma.
Bro, if that is true and can be corroborated, I owe him a big apology.
carlosgvv
April 11th, 2012
4:30 pm
Brosephus – 4:22
Yes, they were arrested, but then released. Even though Ervin was unarmed and there was no struggle, these men told police they feared for their lives and then gunned him down. Fairness demands that Ervin get the same justice that Travon deserves. Don’t you agree? Forgive me for saying this, but apperances suggest that neither the police or the Black Community agree.
Thulsa Doom
April 11th, 2012
4:31 pm
JamVet,
I wouldn’t blame the Sanford PD too much. They did grill Zimm for 5 freaking hours that night so its not as if they just swept it under the rug. And the lead investigator did recommend to the DA that he be prosecuted. The DA just didn’t think there was enough evidence. The only thing that I guess could have been done and may have been done is they should have called in the florida version of the GBI to help investigate the actual scene more closely. Small town depts just aren’t going to have the same level of expertise or investigatory skill as the FBI or even GBI or a big city dept. But if they grilled Zimm for 5 hours that at least tells me they didn’t just blow off the death of the young man.
Brosephus™
April 11th, 2012
4:32 pm
Not one of you have any offical, factual information but you know exactly what happened, who is gulity, and that it all comes down to race.
I can’t answer for everyone else, but I got my info directly from the city of Sanford. The had all the 911 tapes up and reports before they were asked to remove them by the Ms. Corey.
Divide and Conquer
April 11th, 2012
4:32 pm
Thanks, Jay. Reading that Romney crap is so boring. Racism and guns blogs are much more interesting to read. They really bring out the lefty penchant for hyperbole and insults. Abortion blogs are great too, which is maybe why your last anti-Romney session got converted.
They BOTH suck
April 11th, 2012
4:33 pm
TD @ 4:31
good post
Joe Hussein Mama
April 11th, 2012
4:33 pm
Doom — “You would probably be in hiding too”
Don’t you think it’s kinda strange how his own attorneys didn’t know where he was, but he up and calls Sean Hannity out of the blue to ‘get his side of the story out?’