Corporate America rethinks support of right-wing fringe

Kraft Foods announced Thursday that it has joined Coca-Cola and Pepsico in withdrawing support from the American Legislative Exchange Council, a group created in part to disseminate controversial conservative legislation to state legislators around the country.

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Last week, GM announced that was pulling its financial backing of the Heartland Institute, which specializes in the denial of climate change and dismisses it as “junk science.” And in the past week, Arby’s, Walgreen’s (see tweet to the right) Proactive and Kohler have added their names to the list of more than 100 companies that have either pulled their ads from Rush Limbaugh’s show or ordered that ads for their companies not appear there.

All in all, if I didn’t know better, I’d say that corporate America is becoming more reluctant to be associated with points of view that until now they have found quite acceptable.

If so, I can think of several possible reasons that might have changed:

A. Greater transparency is exposing relationships that once were easier to hide.

B. As Planned Parenthood demonstrated in its faceoff with Susan G. Komen for the Cure, liberal groups are publicizing such relationships and rallying their supporters.

C. The positions taken by ALEC, Limbaugh, Heartland and others have become more and more extreme and thus less defensible in the public sphere.

D. The market is speaking. As the public becomes disenchanted with such extremism, companies grow more fearful that association with fringe viewpoints is costing them business and reputation, and they are acting accordingly.

So what’s the right answer? Obviously it’s E., all of the above.

– Jay Bookman

203 comments Add your comment

Fred ™

April 6th, 2012
1:53 pm

Too little too late IMHO. They didn’t think they would be caught the hypocrites.

willie lynch

April 6th, 2012
1:54 pm

It’s about time. Their radical, ridiculous agenda is really un-American.

Fred ™

April 6th, 2012
1:58 pm

Jay, you NEED a Big Green Egg. You DESERVE a Big Green Egg. Go here: http://www.biggreenegg.com/locator/results_details.php?id=296&dist=3.46413227781605

Ask for Terry, the manager. Tell him I sent you. He’ll hook you right up.

Talking Head

April 6th, 2012
1:58 pm

Interesting. However I see things a little differently. When the lunatic left get wind of what they interpret as an injustice, they spew violent rhetoric and even impose a violent ‘will’ against those they oppose. Companies wish not to be associated with violence (unless it’s the companies nature of being in the violence buisness) and therefor withdrawl advertisement from those targeted by the lunatic left.

Some, not all, of the companies end up hurting financially after they leave because a large portion of their business came from the Limbaugh’s of the world (see what happened to Carbonite).

barking frog

April 6th, 2012
2:09 pm

…or they’re just cutting
expenses.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

April 6th, 2012
2:10 pm

Good to see that corporate america is beginning to realize that the right wing extremists are hurting this nation. Its too bad it took them so long.

Libertarian

April 6th, 2012
2:10 pm

“All in all, if I didn’t know better, I’d say that corporate America is becoming more reluctant to be associated with points of view that until now they have found quite acceptable. ”

I would say its becoming more commonplace that everytime a liberal gets “offended” they start a boycott. And twitter and facebook have made it easier.

ProgressivePeach

April 6th, 2012
2:10 pm

Violence? What violence? Methinks Talking Head projecteth too much.

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Goons IN 3-D!!

April 6th, 2012
2:11 pm

Talking Head: the fainting couch is over here. Try not to trip over anything before you faint on it.

Butch Cassidy

April 6th, 2012
2:12 pm

So by Talking Heads logic, the Right is the weaker party easily overcome by the Left. Looks like 4 more years for Obama, afterall, who wants to elect a candidate form the weaker party? ;)

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Goons IN 3-D!!

April 6th, 2012
2:15 pm

B. As Planned Parenthood demonstrated in its faceoff with Susan G. Komen for the Cure, liberal groups are publicizing such relationships and rallying their supporters.

I would re-write, because it’s not just liberal groups who are publicizing these relationships and rallying supporters. Social conservatives have used boycotts for years to boycott everything from Disney (who doesn’t remember that?) to Abercrombe & Fitch.

Butch Cassidy

April 6th, 2012
2:15 pm

Libertarian-”I would say its becoming more commonplace that everytime a liberal gets “offended” they start a boycott. And twitter and facebook have made it easier.”

Freely Translated: I wish we could go back to the days of limited media and limited communication. All this instant transmission of data on a global scale is killing my party.

Soothsayer

April 6th, 2012
2:15 pm

As far as the Meebo toolbar, if you hold your cursor over the icon in the lower right-hand corner of the screen a dialogue box will appear that gives you the opportunity to hide it. That is if your browser accepts cookies. If you don’t (accept cookies) — like me — you can’t hide it. Wouldn’t you know it.

Libertarian

April 6th, 2012
2:16 pm

Butch Cassidy

April 6th, 2012
2:15 pm

My party isn’t very alive as it is. But nice try.

Ira in East Lake

April 6th, 2012
2:17 pm

All the conservatives are just ticked off that liberals have more market power than they do.

See the “One Million Moms” Ellen/JCP boycott results vs. Limbaugh

HA!

josef

April 6th, 2012
2:17 pm

Good, and about time. For those worried about “the lunatic left,” those making these decisions weigh very carefully just who it is that’s making the point and why. It’s not as much a PR gambit as it is a shekels mene, mene, tekel efarsin…

Butch Cassidy

April 6th, 2012
2:17 pm

Libertarian – “My party isn’t very alive as it is. But nice try.”

Hey, I don’t even have a party, so I have to admire yours. :)

Libertarian

April 6th, 2012
2:18 pm

I was going to cancel my HBO subscription after Bill Maher bashed southerners. But I really wanted to watch Game of Thrones :-)

Fred ™

April 6th, 2012
2:18 pm

Logical Dude

April 6th, 2012
2:18 pm

I would vote for a combination of C and D.

As right wing groups show their true fringe colors, mainstream companies are seeing this and dropping them. As consumers see companies they like supporting entities they don’t, they are letting the companies know as well.
Better information. . oh wait. . that one is A as well.
B is for a select few targeted companies. I don’t know if this happened directly for some of the recent changes.

(but then, I’m not on those liberal talking point memos that go out, so maybe B is true as well)
Any liberals see B?

Fred ™

April 6th, 2012
2:19 pm

Libertarian: You actually watch that asshat Maher?

Butch Cassidy

April 6th, 2012
2:20 pm

Libertarian – “I was going to cancel my HBO subscription after Bill Maher bashed southerners. But I really wanted to watch Game of Thrones”

That’s the hook. If Rush had more adventure shows with naked women and swords, his sponsors would still be there. :)

Libertarian

April 6th, 2012
2:20 pm

Ira in East Lake

April 6th, 2012
2:17 pm

In that example I a) don’t shop at JC Penney anyway and b) think that was a stupid boycott. Not all conservatives are anti-gay bigots.

I also don’t think democrats boycotting Wal Mart or Coke/Pepsi would have worked. Most poorer people are not going to give up Wal Mart for anything.

Libertarian

April 6th, 2012
2:21 pm

Fred ™

April 6th, 2012
2:19 pm

No way I don’t watch him. I read about what he said about southerners though. I also have never listened to Rush Limbaugh. Couldn’t even tell you what station he’s on.

Fred ™

April 6th, 2012
2:21 pm

Social conservatives have used boycotts for years to boycott everything from Disney (who doesn’t remember that?)

No comparison dude. That actually BACKFIRED lol. I mean on the “boycott days” attendance actually grew as people like me knew it was the perfect day to go somewhere and not be bothered at all by asshat baptists…….

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Goons IN 3-D!!

April 6th, 2012
2:23 pm

That actually BACKFIRED lol.

Didn’t say it was effective, just that social conservatives have been using boycotts of corporations for years to try to force the companies to change their ways. So claiming that it’s just liberals is not correct.

This is a man's world...

April 6th, 2012
2:23 pm

…but it would be NOTHING without a woman or a girl!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Febr_t_qa9U

Logical Dude

April 6th, 2012
2:23 pm

Oh, and JAY. . . Can you have the powers that be remove the freakin Meebo bar at the bottom?

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Goons IN 3-D!!

April 6th, 2012
2:24 pm

Logical Dude @ 2:23

+1 (but likely tilting at windmills)

Ira in East Lake

April 6th, 2012
2:28 pm

Libertarian – Libs didn’t have to boycott Coke and Pepsi and that is the point.

Conservatives of all stripes – remember they have a “big tent” right – don’t frighten board rooms the way libs do apparently.

That is power.

Jefferson

April 6th, 2012
2:28 pm

The dumber the servant, the more the master takes advantage of the servant. See MS and GA legislators. PS the servants are supposed to be the masters, in this case.

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Goons IN 3-D!!

April 6th, 2012
2:29 pm

remember they have a “big tent” right

Only size that fits Rush…?

Yeah, ok, too easy.

They BOTH suck

April 6th, 2012
2:29 pm

josef

Go down stairs and chk out my post about manners………..

Matti

April 6th, 2012
2:29 pm

Whoever you are @ 2:23,

AWESOME jump on the FNM!

josef

April 6th, 2012
2:30 pm

Libertarian

I’m with you on the South/Southerner bashing…got my own list of “you don’t want my Yankee dollar” ones…got an interesting collection of responses, too.

And by the way, your comment that not all conservatives are anti-gay bigots…yep. A flaming liberal myself, but I’ve hear plenty of support from those quarters…

This is a man's world...

April 6th, 2012
2:31 pm

Matti

April 6th, 2012
2:29 pm

It’s just ME! Thanks!!

josef

April 6th, 2012
2:36 pm

Jefferson…

I take it you don’t keep up with the Mississippi legislators…just knocked down the anti-immigrant bill along with the “heartbeat” clause in the abortion legislation.

BOTH

Priceless! Your mom sounds a lot like mine! :-)

Thulsa Doom

April 6th, 2012
2:39 pm

“The positions taken by ALEC, Limbaugh, Heartland and others have become more and more extreme and thus less defensible in the public sphere’

And that would be an opinon of yours backed up by just a handful of examples except in the case of Limbaugh. And if 100 companies forgo advertising with him then so what. There are thousands left that have still left that option open.

Fred ™

April 6th, 2012
2:39 pm

So Jefferson, we are still waiting. How WAS copper wire invented as you asked downstairs……………

timbo

April 6th, 2012
2:39 pm

And Limbaugh numbers continue to climb…..

Becky

April 6th, 2012
2:40 pm

I would enjoy knowing the statistic on what the sponsor numbers are on Komen now after their debacle. Also-where is Karen Handel hiding?

Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

April 6th, 2012
2:41 pm

Wait till the right wingers totally lose their collective sheeot after Obama wins another 4 years. They are going to wig, total melt down.

Then things will start blowing up – abortion clinics, federal buildings, etc. much like they did after Clinton won the White House.

Becky

April 6th, 2012
2:42 pm

Finn-that is not even remotely humorous and I truly hope you did not mean it that way.

Jefferson

April 6th, 2012
2:42 pm

Frog nailed the copper joke. Me and my dad fighting over a penny.

Oscar

April 6th, 2012
2:42 pm

Soothsayer

April 6th, 2012
2:15 pm
As far as the Meebo toolbar, if you hold your cursor over the icon in the lower right-hand corner of the screen a dialogue box will appear that gives you the opportunity to hide it. That is if your browser accepts cookies. If you don’t (accept cookies) — like me — you can’t hide it. Wouldn’t you know it.

___

Thanks. I did it and it went away quietly.

Thulsa Doom

April 6th, 2012
2:43 pm

“Conservatives of all stripes – remember they have a “big tent” right – don’t frighten board rooms the way libs do apparently.”

“That is power”

Um. Nope. That is intimidation, thuggery, threats of rioting, threats of bad publicity, picketing, etc. Liberals do it. Conservatives don’t. And if you need examples all you need to do is look at the thuggery, rioting, and destruction of the OWS protesters relative to the largely peaceful tea party protesters who scare no one.

getalife

April 6th, 2012
2:44 pm

They will go back in November.

Jefferson

April 6th, 2012
2:44 pm

That tea party Gomer is should follow the rules.

Thulsa Doom

April 6th, 2012
2:45 pm

“Then things will start blowing up – abortion clinics, federal buildings, etc. much like they did after Clinton won the White House.’

And of course if the cons win the presidency I guess we can expect Obama’s friend Bill Ayers to go back to blowing up police stations and doing other bombings as well.

That was just too easy.

Oscar

April 6th, 2012
2:45 pm

Don’t see how anyone in the right mind could listen to Rush. No reasonable person at least.

josef

April 6th, 2012
2:47 pm

Jefferson

And a buen Pesach to you and yours…

NOW…how ’bout that Mississippi legislators…? :-)

Oscar

April 6th, 2012
2:47 pm

I used to post on USA Today. Amazing the number of cons that were threatening revolt and revolution if the Obamacare bill passed.
There are plenty of nuts on both side.

Jay

April 6th, 2012
2:47 pm

That is intimidation, thuggery, threats of rioting, threats of bad publicity, picketing, etc. Liberals do it. Conservatives don’t.

How ludicrous. The guy who tried to bomb the Planned Parenthood clinic in Wisconsin. The conservative politicians who hint at “Second Amendment remedies”. The folks who repeatedly come on this blog and murmur vaguely about a revolution looming if Obama gets re-elected. Tim McVeigh. Eric Rudolph. The N. Ga. militia.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

April 6th, 2012
2:48 pm

Betty, not meant to be humorous, that’s what I expect from those types.

HIPPOCRIT

April 6th, 2012
2:48 pm

wow,
TRANSPARENCY and CONSUMERS MAKING MARKET CORRECTIONS…….

watch out Jay, you may succumb to the dark side

HIPPOCRIT

April 6th, 2012
2:49 pm

Oscar
This is a country of MIXED NUTS
its both our strength and our weakness

josef

April 6th, 2012
2:50 pm

JAY

Just let’s be fair about it…those aren’t conservatives…they’re lunatics…

Oscar

April 6th, 2012
2:51 pm

HIPPOCRIT

April 6th, 2012
2:49 pm
_______

The idea is to compromise and meet in the middle.

Variety is the spice of life, just don’t get indigestion.

josef

April 6th, 2012
2:51 pm

HIPPO
@ 2:49

Yep.

Matti the Resistance Fighter

April 6th, 2012
2:51 pm

The smart men who head up corporations are backing away from the right wing fringe, because they know that the backlash has not only begun, but is just getting warmed up. We are DONE being jacked over!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnrPP3qkM0E

Thulsa Doom

April 6th, 2012
2:52 pm

Jay,

And how many Tim McVeigh and Eric Rudolphs have their been over the years? You need not answer if you don’t want to look silly- I’ll understand.

The north georgia milita? Who in the hell are they? You’re reaching with that one jay.

Lemme know when these scary right wing groups openly start putting million dollar bounties on someone’s head like a left wing group recently did. Or when right wingers start burning down whole cities with chants of no justice no peace egged on by right wing politicians.

FEAR (False Evidence Appearing Real)

April 6th, 2012
2:53 pm

Power to the People! Social media rocks!! The sleeping giant (American populace) is being slowly jostled awake and it’s about darn time.

BTW Jay – LUVED seeing you on Maddow the other night.

josef

April 6th, 2012
2:53 pm

IMAM

And as per my post to Jefferson on the Mississippi legislators, “Thank G-d for Georgia and Alabama…” eh? :-)

Bernie

April 6th, 2012
2:54 pm

The Women of America will reject ALL of them come November.

On a different subject, Zimmerman’s legal team is now comparing George’s head banging to baby shaken syndrone. Now with that said, Am I the only one to notice that George has ..NO HAIR! he is Bald! in order to grab that Big head of his, one would need to use (2) two hands! That means in order for Travon to bang his head on the ground, without any hair on his head, Trayvon would have to use both hands. if the head banging is so, then WHERE WAS George’s HANDS during this time of head banging? George is suppose to be some type of a security expert in the area of personal protection, certainly he was not just laying there not moving or protecting himself. This claim of HEAD BANGING is a STRAWMAN! Was Taryvon holding him down and Banging his head at the same time?
if so, will someone please, explain to me how that physical feat is done by a 17yr old on a 28yr old security specialist.

HIPPOCRIT

April 6th, 2012
2:54 pm

OSCAR you said:
The idea is to compromise and meet in the middle.

the first signs of intelligence i’ve seen on the AJC

its amazing that the engine that got great things done in this country has been forgotten

but thats what happens when NUTS become the ones in charge

Jefferson

April 6th, 2012
2:54 pm

Joseph – If the MS gov signs to restrict woman’s rights law it will surly be in the courts, wasting time and money.

Matti the Resistance Fighter

April 6th, 2012
2:57 pm

Thulsa Doom: Um. Nope. That is intimidation, thuggery, threats of rioting, threats of bad publicity, picketing, etc. Liberals do it. Conservatives don’t.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OFYO_SIy5Y

So….. Liberals STOMPED on this woman’s head? Riiiiiiggght. You WISH we’d forget this stuff, don’t you? Keep wishin’… buddy. Keep wishin’.

Oscar

April 6th, 2012
2:57 pm

getalife

April 6th, 2012
2:59 pm

Jay is a fighter but we are worried about manners.

Ira in East Lake

April 6th, 2012
2:59 pm

Thulsa – You miss the point – purposely like jm perhaps?

Liberal successful boycotts: Glen Beck, Limbaugh, ALEC, Laura Ingram (sp?)

Conservative successful boycotts: ?????????????

Deal with it.

josef

April 6th, 2012
2:59 pm

Jefferson

It will that…along with several other states’ efforts that direction, and the governor will probably sign it. But Mississippi is far from the only one doing that and that it was limited at all took cajones from the legislators…and the anti-immigrant bill?

Thulsa Doom

April 6th, 2012
3:00 pm

“George is suppose to be some type of a security expert in the area of personal protection”

Who says he is a “security expert?” Apparently just you in your not so astute opinion.

“This claim of HEAD BANGING is a STRAWMAN!”

Take it up with the eye witness ma’am. And please explain how Zimm got the laceration if this didn’t occurr. Seems to me his story is pretty consistent.

“explain to me how that physical feat is done by a 17yr old on a 28yr old security specialist.”

There you go with that security specialist crap again. My oh my how you forget that the 17 year old was 6ft and Zimm was 5′9. And according to Zimm’s testimony Trayvon attacked him thus getting the jump on him. And its apparently consistent considering his nose was broke and he was bleeding. Oh, and that laceration on “the back of his head” ma’am.

My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)

April 6th, 2012
3:00 pm

Off topic, please forgive me:
getalife

April 5th, 2012
7:17 pm
“My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)”

Adam crushed you.

It stings your pride but it will go away
_____________________________________________________

getalife, although you may not read this, there is something you don’t get about me. I don’t care if someone “crushes” me on a blog. It will not affect my life one way or another. I generally ask questions to gain knowledge or insight, not so I can play partisian grabazz.

There are those who post here with the sole intent is to proclaim they are “WINNING”. That’s not me. I have and will admit when I am wrong. Others? Not so much.

Also, getalife, how did he “crush” me when I never stated my position on ALEC or their tactics?

Oscar

April 6th, 2012
3:01 pm

More reading on fringe groups. Seem to come from both sides and in all stripes and colors.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files

getalife

April 6th, 2012
3:01 pm

Thulsa Doom,

Your deflection to blame the other party is outstanding.

Thulsa Doom

April 6th, 2012
3:02 pm

Ira,

Beck and Ingraham were boycotted? Who knew?

Becky

April 6th, 2012
3:02 pm

And there is Thulsa making 3 inches sound much bigger and longer than it really is! hahahahahahahahhaha

getalife

April 6th, 2012
3:03 pm

“My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy) ”

Yeah, your reply shows it did sting your pride.

You asked so I told you that you lost the argument.

No big deal.

You will get over it.

josef

April 6th, 2012
3:03 pm

gotta run…’ll try to check back in later…

Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

April 6th, 2012
3:04 pm

Don’t know Oscar, all those in the splcenter list look pretty much right wing.

TaxPayer

April 6th, 2012
3:06 pm

And those OWS folks that scare Thulsa so bad. It must be due to that look they have on their faces after being pepper-sprayed for sitting or just being present. That’s a real radical thing to do in a con’s eye. :roll:

getalife

April 6th, 2012
3:06 pm

Thulsa – You miss the point – purposely like jm perhaps?

“Liberal successful boycotts: Glen Beck, Limbaugh, ALEC, Laura Ingram (sp?)

Conservative successful boycotts: ?????????????

Deal with it.”

Ira is a fighter.

Great stuff.

HIPPOCRIT

April 6th, 2012
3:07 pm

IRA

successful conservative boycotts

AIR AMERICA!!!!

FOX NEWS vs other cable channels in prime time

conservatives don’t boycott with their mouth…. they do it with their wallet……….

USMC

April 6th, 2012
3:07 pm

“Corporate America rethinks support of right-wing fringe”–Jay Bookman

Radical Jay considers the idea of bringing a PHOTO identification to the voting booth as “rightwing fringe”. LOL! :-)

Don't Forget

April 6th, 2012
3:07 pm

These groups have gone so far right that moderate conservatives have also had enough and are finally reacting. The far right is nothing but pin stripe thugs.

Bernie

April 6th, 2012
3:08 pm

Thulsa Doom 3:00 pm – Your defense of a couple of inches of height difference between the two does not matter when they are both on the ground! you still not answered how the physical feat of the head banging occurred. It could not be done with one hand and no Hair! to bang george’s HUGE DOME on the ground one would have to use (2) two hands! Period! as fara as the eye witness version of that event, lets wait for that version to be told to the FBI. Lying to a Fedearl Agent will get you at least 5 years!

getalife

April 6th, 2012
3:08 pm

Tax,

There is another movement led by a former czar.

That will scare doomy to death.

Ira in East Lake

April 6th, 2012
3:08 pm

Thulsa – Learn teh Google.

Glenn Beck

Dr. Laura

This is not new, you disingenuous so and so.

Thulsa Doom -resistance fighter against Obama's war on children

April 6th, 2012
3:09 pm

Matti,

You really want to go there with me ma’am. I could bang you up all day long with videos of leftist physical attacks on tea party protestors and others. Taxpayer and I had this contest once and he was out of ammo in no time. Its an argument you cannot win ma’am.

But if you want to compare just one thing lets compare the number of leftist speakers attacked by right wing students vs the number of conservative speakers attacked physically and with pies and such by left wing students.

And do you really want to compare tea party violence with OWS violence. You really want to try and go there with me matti? If you’re smart you will stand down and back away from the keyboard. Its an argument you cannot win.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AteV2L9pc-U

http://www.prisonplanet.com/pro-obama-thug-viciously-attacks-anti-bailout-protester.html

getalife

April 6th, 2012
3:10 pm

HIPPOCRIT ,

Air America?

Got a link?

Becky

April 6th, 2012
3:11 pm

Thulsa-I got of bit of your rabid spittle way over here. Calm down

Thulsa Doom -resistance fighter against Obama's war on children

April 6th, 2012
3:11 pm

Ira in East Lake,

So Glenn Beck and Dr. Laura have been completely silenced? I don’t think so buddy.

Ira in East Lake

April 6th, 2012
3:11 pm

HIPPOCRIT – I don’t think you understand what the word in question really means.

Try Webter’s or the OED or call the reference desk at your local library.

getalife

April 6th, 2012
3:11 pm

“resistance fighter against Obama’s war on children”

War on children?

Got a link?

Thulsa Doom -resistance fighter against Obama's war on children

April 6th, 2012
3:13 pm

Becky,

I thought you weren’t going to address me anymore. So much for a lib keeping their promises. Reminds me of a lot of broken promises ma’am.

B

O

O

M

!

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/

HIPPOCRIT

April 6th, 2012
3:13 pm

getalife

link to WHAT
Air America was to be the great liberal answer to conservative talk radio……….. it went on the air and even liberals wouldn’t listen……. they prefer conservative talk radio……. the market decided!

wallets at work

Ira in East Lake

April 6th, 2012
3:14 pm

Thulsa – Did the boycotts work?

Yes they did. Both were forced off/out. The fact they’ve staged comebacks of sorts means nothing.

Quit moving the goalposts, boy.

Bernie

April 6th, 2012
3:14 pm

Thulsa Doom @ 3:00 pm – Zimm’s testimony Trayvon attacked him thus getting the jump on him. So Trayvon is now the agressor after being watched and followed by George from his SUV. then George exited his SUV, watched and followed Trayvon close enough so that Trayvon can agressively attack him first. If you believe that, then I would advise you to cease all video game activity NOW! that does not happen in the real world!

getalife

April 6th, 2012
3:16 pm

Hippocrit,

Where is the link to prove you boycotted?

I know the premise to most con arguments are deflection to blame the other party or a blatant lie so I need proof.

Thanks..

Mr_B

April 6th, 2012
3:16 pm

“The Infertility and Perinatology Consortium of Georgia, a professional group of doctors, opposes the bill recently passed in the General Assembly that outlaws abortions after 20 weeks. But because of threats of violence and outbreaks of vandalism at their offices, not one physician would sign his or her individual name to the following column.”

AJC Opinion Page; Thursday, April 5, 2012

No, Thulsa, the right would never do that.