We are led by a Congress of telemarketers

We’ve all heard the stories about how much time and effort members of Congress devote to raising money for re-election, so that next year they can return to Washington to once again start spending a lot of time raising money for re-election.

As an NPR story puts it, our senators and representatives have two jobs — they serve in Congress, and they work as a telemarketer, manning the phones two to four hours a day on average to raise money. The two parties have even established call centers near Capitol Hill so their members can dial for dollars.

“I think most Americans would be shocked — not surprised, but shocked — if they knew how much time a United States senator spends raising money,” U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin told NPR. “And how much time we spend talking about raising money, and thinking about raising money, and planning to raise money, and going off on little retreats and conjuring up new ideas about raising money.”

Take a minute to listen to the story. If you want to know why our elected officials seem so beholden to special interests, and why independence has become such a rare commodity in Washington, here’s a big part of the answer. Spending hour after hour, day after day begging other people for money would sap the soul out of anyone.

– Jay Bookman

106 comments Add your comment

ZoSo

March 30th, 2012
2:14 pm

Term limits!

gadem

March 30th, 2012
2:16 pm

Term Limits would be great!!!

HDB

March 30th, 2012
2:16 pm

Does Congress has to abide by the “do-not-call” list??

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
2:16 pm

“Term limits!”

Wouldn’t help. Whoever was in, or wanted to be in, would still have to raise the money.

getalife

March 30th, 2012
2:17 pm

The idea was to serve and go back to their regular jobs.

Great idea but they turned serving into a billion dollar industry.

K Street.

carlosgvv

March 30th, 2012
2:17 pm

At some point in America’s past, the decision was made by our political parties to sell themselves to Big Business. The motivation for this was to ensure funding for elections and re-elections. No thought was given as to how this might affect the quality of our politics and the possible deleterious effects to the American people. Selfishness and greed were the order of the day then and now with our politicians, especially the Republicans. Getting into this money mudhole was easy for our lawmakers. Getting them out is a next to impossible task for us since they show no interest whatsoever in changing this contemptable state of affairs.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
2:18 pm

“Does Congress has to abide by the “do-not-call” list??”

No

Paul

March 30th, 2012
2:20 pm

Full federal funding of elections. No other funds controlled by the campaigns.

I know, I know…. lots of legal problems with that. But I can dream, can’t I?

Bill

March 30th, 2012
2:20 pm

All the folks calling for term limits never said squat when the dems ran things.

Jay

March 30th, 2012
2:21 pm

California has had term limits for more than 20 years now. It also has one of the most dysfunctional state legislatures in the country.

Term limits do little except guarantee that politicians are constantly looking for their next landing spot, and that none of them have much experience doing what they do. In addition, what’s the incentive to try to do a good job and build expertise?

It’s a false hope, unfortunately. Term limits would simply give even more power to lobbyists, because they would be the only ones with institutional knowledge.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
2:26 pm

“Full federal funding of elections. No other funds controlled by the campaigns”

I’m inclined to agree with that also.

Freedom Riders 2012

March 30th, 2012
2:27 pm

gadem

March 30th, 2012
2:28 pm

Great point Jay…

TBone

March 30th, 2012
2:29 pm

As a country we have allowed ourselves to be duped by a privilidged elite ruling class that was not the intention of our founding fathers. We have allowed our political system to be corrupted by power seeking elitists. The character of those looking to be public servants has to be questioned at this point. Here’s a tip; vote ‘em all out and get new blood to represent you for a limited period. Once our ruling class gets a taste of priviledge they don’t give it up easily. Just look at Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy, they held onto that power until death. That’s a pretty powerful addiction.

kayaker 71

March 30th, 2012
2:30 pm

And now, since the SC has made corporations into people, we are stuck with the result. All of that money has strings attached to it. Case in point….. Bozo and the unions. Good old Andy was Bozo’s most frequent visitor according the WH visitor logs. Think he was there to have a beer? Nope. Just checking on his investment.

Freedom Riders 2012

March 30th, 2012
2:32 pm

jay says,
It’s a false hope, unfortunately. Term limits would simply give even more power to lobbyists, because they would be the only ones with institutional knowledge.

…but why should holding an “elected” position be a lifetime career. Why not give the President an unlimited position?

Paul

March 30th, 2012
2:33 pm

kayaker 71

Republicans can write off a 20-point support deficit among women, an 82-point deficit among Hispanics, yet Democrats spend all sorts of time and effort courting and kowtowing to… just what percentage of the electorate is comprised of SEIU members, again?

Shawny

March 30th, 2012
2:34 pm

It is a catch 22. Term limits make them not spend half their time fundraising and campaigning after elected, but term limits would guarantee that after elected that they do not have to do anything but line their own pockets as they have nothing to lose.

There has got to be a better way. Perhaps if in the fall we vote them ALL out, a message will be given.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
2:34 pm

“Why not give the President an unlimited position”

It used to be that way. How else do you think FDR got elected 4 times?

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
2:35 pm

“Perhaps if in the fall we vote them ALL out”

And that is the only “term limit” we should ever need.

Ayn Rant

March 30th, 2012
2:36 pm

What’s more, every member of Congress has a staff of 16-36 well-paid civil servants to assist in campaign publicity and fund-raising. They call the activities of the staff “legislative analysis and support”.

Congress costs the taxpayers about $2.65 billion per year for salaries, benefits, and privileges.

Simple Truths

March 30th, 2012
2:37 pm

What are the odds. A politician interrupts a telemarketer’s family dinner!

Freedom Riders 2012

March 30th, 2012
2:37 pm

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
2:34 pm

Yes, but how long ago was that? Longetivity breeds corruption.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
2:38 pm

“Yes, but how long ago was that? Longetivity breeds corruption”

Then vote them out.

Oscar

March 30th, 2012
2:38 pm

Maybe we should go back to the days when the state leglistures appointed the congressmen. Things seem to work just as well back in those days.

Oscar

March 30th, 2012
2:38 pm

Legislatures?

Simple Truths

March 30th, 2012
2:39 pm

Oscar, state legislatures never appointed members of the House of Representatives. That has always been by popular vote

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

March 30th, 2012
2:39 pm

Since it would save Democrats and Republicans money and thus require less time begging. I call for a ban on political bandit signs. I am sure that would be illegal but what can I say….I hate them.

stands for decibels

March 30th, 2012
2:39 pm

I heard the story this morning. I knew they spent a lot of time fundraising. I’d never realized just what a grind it really is.

I really, really hope everyone posting here takes the trouble to spend, well, not “a minute” as Jay said above, but three minutes and forty-three seconds listening to the story.

Oscar

March 30th, 2012
2:40 pm

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
2:34 pm
“Why not give the President an unlimited position”

It used to be that way. How else do you think FDR got elected 4 times?

_____

FDR had an unlimited position? What does that mean. Please elaborate or expand on that thought.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
2:41 pm

“FDR had an unlimited position? What does that mean. Please elaborate or expand on that thought”

Well, not UNlimited…since he died after being elected the 4th time.

Oscar

March 30th, 2012
2:41 pm

Simple Truths

March 30th, 2012
2:39 pm
Oscar, state legislatures never appointed members of the House of Representatives. That has always been by popular vote

_____

You better go to your history books or to google on that one, bud.

Generation$crewed

March 30th, 2012
2:42 pm

Jay,

Good Job!

We must understand as voters these current group of politicians are almost forced to lie, or say things they don’t believe in. Just to keep up with the other guy/gal. No $ no campaign (Romney?)

What’s worse is they use the divisions they have helped us create within ourselves to raise more from their base.

Nice piece!

ZoSo

March 30th, 2012
2:44 pm

Jay, what do you think should happen if not term limits? I’ve heard that in countries like Great Britain that campaigns are much, much shorter and I would presume a lot less expensive.

Oscar

March 30th, 2012
2:45 pm

Cut and paste:

Formerly, state legislatures appointed the U.S. Senators from their respective states until the ratification of the 17th Amendment in 1913 required the direct election of Senators by a state’s voters.

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
2:45 pm

Well, not UNlimited…since he died after being elected the 4th time.

So you’re saying the position was a bit of a dead end?

:shock:

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
2:47 pm

” I’ve heard that in countries like Great Britain that campaigns are much, much shorter and I would presume a lot less expensive.”

That would be a start.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
2:47 pm

“So you’re saying the position was a bit of a dead end?”

Welllll…they all are…eventually

stands for decibels

March 30th, 2012
2:48 pm

Paul, DGA–you guys DO check the box on your 1040 allocating 3 bucks toward financing presidential campaigns, yes?

I always have, since the opportunity was first there. I think it’s disgraceful anything less than 98% of Americans bother to do even that much.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
2:48 pm

“Formerly, state legislatures appointed the U.S. Senators ”

Senators are not House representatives.

Oscar

March 30th, 2012
2:50 pm

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
2:47 pm
” I’ve heard that in countries like Great Britain that campaigns are much, much shorter and I would presume a lot less expensive.”

That would be a start.

_____

It’s a smaller country. Possibly they don’t have as much area to represent and as many tv stations and newspapers to buy ads in.
I really have no thoughts on how to reduce costs of campaigns. To shorten the time between qualifying to run and the election sounds as good as any.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
2:50 pm

“I always have, since the opportunity was first there”

I do too, but I think it should be automatic, not voluntary.

Oscar

March 30th, 2012
2:52 pm

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
2:48 pm
“Formerly, state legislatures appointed the U.S. Senators ”

Senators are not House representatives.

——–

Correct, state legislatiurs only appointed the senators.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
2:56 pm

Oscar,

“Correct, state legislatiurs only appointed the senators”

“Simple Truths
March 30th, 2012
2:39 pm
Oscar, state legislatures never appointed members of the House of Representatives. That has always been by popular vote
____
You better go to your history books or to google on that one, bud.”

Want to rethink this reply then?

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Goons IN 3-D!!

March 30th, 2012
3:00 pm

I’m all for shortening the election season. It’s not like candidates would get any more vetting in 9 months than they would in 2 months.

And shorten Presidential Primary Season to 3 months tops… ending right before the convention.

Oscar

March 30th, 2012
3:01 pm

Want to rethink this reply then?

——–

Already did. See the post above.

Talking Head

March 30th, 2012
3:01 pm

We already have term limits. We vote every 2 years. If you don’t like them, don’t vote for them.

Oscar

March 30th, 2012
3:01 pm

ByteMe – Thugs vs. Goons IN 3-D!!

March 30th, 2012
3:00 pm
I’m all for shortening the election season. It’s not like candidates would get any more vetting in 9 months than they would in 2 months.

And shorten Presidential Primary Season to 3 months tops… ending right before the convention.

______

Without all those GOP debates, what would we do for laughs.

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Goons IN 3-D!!

March 30th, 2012
3:05 pm

Without all those GOP debates, what would we do for laughs.

Maybe get some dignity back in the process? That’d be nice.

Adam

March 30th, 2012
3:06 pm

Term limits aren’t the answer. Limiting the campaign money for EVERYONE is the answer.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
3:06 pm

“Without all those GOP debates, what would we do for laughs”

Just compress them into a shorter time frame

TaxPayer

March 30th, 2012
3:08 pm

I think we’d be better off some times if we applied the draft to positions such as congressional seats and elected people to serve as privates in the army.

Oscar

March 30th, 2012
3:10 pm

yteMe – Thugs vs. Goons IN 3-D!!

March 30th, 2012
3:05 pm
Without all those GOP debates, what would we do for laughs.

Maybe get some dignity back in the process? That’d be nice.

______

Back in the process. You are assuming it was ever there. Those campaings in the 18th and 19th centruy were pretty rough. And some in the 20th also.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
3:14 pm

“Those campaings in the 18th and 19th centruy were pretty rough. And some in the 20th also.”

Yeah, they were…but some of those 19th century politicians had the insult down to a fine art. Sort of like one of my favorite sayings: tact is the are of telling someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

Recon 0311 2533

March 30th, 2012
3:16 pm

Good argument for term limits. The arguments against are extremely weak.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 30th, 2012
3:17 pm

Well, you got to feel sorry for anybody that spends most of their time trying to talk strangers into giving them money. Some of you here were around back when I decided to run for President a few years ago. No matter how much I begged for Campaign Contributions the only thing I got was a plug nickle in the mail. Even tho I had a platform and everything. I even buttered some of you up. Like the fellow told the doc when asked if the laxative suppositories kept him from getting stopped up, “For all the good they done I might as well of stuck them up my rear end.” Nothing I did worked to pry even a buck from you pikers fine folks.

I think we’d be alot better off if we just mailed our money to somebody that decides he don’t want to work for a living and tell them not to run for office. At least we wouldn’t have to worry about them coming up with some hare-brained scheme to tax us to death.

And all you folks that keep screaming “term limits!” are just peeing in the wind. The minute a member of Congress learned he couldn’t run again, he’d set to work raising money for some other political office. The itch for politics is even worse than syphilus. There’s no cure and even death won’t get you away from it ’cause you’ll be voting for a canadate when somebody else uses your name at the polling place or on a absentee ballot.

All my places are stocked up so you can start firing those weird songs at each other whenever you’ve had enough to drink. Have a good Friday night everybody.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
3:18 pm

“The arguments against are extremely weak.”

The biggest argument against for ME is that term limits throw the baby out with the bathwater. They get rid of them ALL – and that includes the good legislators.

TaxPayer

March 30th, 2012
3:21 pm

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Goons IN 3-D!!

March 30th, 2012
3:22 pm

Good argument for term limits. The arguments against are extremely weak.

Care to elaborate? We have time :)

Skip

March 30th, 2012
3:22 pm

Hire people to run things, let these guys campaign endlessly.

Talking Head

March 30th, 2012
3:23 pm

i just had to laugh when i saw this..the ‘anger games’

http://www.americanthinker.com/cartoons/

My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)

March 30th, 2012
3:24 pm

It took all of 6 posts on a party neutral topic before some just had to start to fling poo. Grow up carlosvv

Recon 0311 2533

March 30th, 2012
3:25 pm

“They get rid of them ALL – and that includes the good legislators.”

There would indeed be a loss of good ones but it would be a small price to pay for having a flow of fresh perspectives from the real world without ambitions for building a long term career in government.

My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)

March 30th, 2012
3:25 pm

Great article Jay.

Peadawg

March 30th, 2012
3:27 pm

““Without all those GOP debates, what would we do for laughs””

Watch re-runs of the 20 or so debates between Obama, Hillary, etc. from 2007/2008.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
3:28 pm

“There would indeed be a loss of good ones but it would be a small price to pay for having a flow of fresh perspectives from the real world without ambitions for building a long term career in government”

And I disagree. We got some of those “fresh idea” people in there now. I don’t see that they’ve improved things any.

Bud Wiser

March 30th, 2012
3:28 pm

I guess I agree with Jay, sort of.

Term limits would mean they’d be looking for future work (perhaps), but many would likely peddle their temporary influence to the highest bidder for the permanent future job.

It would also probably degenerate into something more contrary to the wants and needs of the American people than what we are seeing now.

In Georgia, famous for the billboards along the interstates, we’d probably see signs advertising ‘policy for sale’.

Lord knows what sort of infomercials would pop up on TV.

Got a low opinion of politicians now? Let this happen, and hold on to your hat.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

March 30th, 2012
3:29 pm

Interesting article on how health insurance got tied to employment:
So why would any company want to give its employees health insurance? It all dates back to World War II. During the war, the United States temporarily suspended the operation of capitalism to maximize war production. There were many details involved in this, but the basic approach was to use wage controls, price controls, rationing, and intense social pressure to invest in low-yield war bonds to depress domestic consumption. The idea was to devote as large a share of output as possible to the cause of killing Germans. The government wanted Rosie the Riveter to help build airplanes, but they didn’t want her spending high wages on increased food and clothing consumption—they wanted all the food and fabric the country could spare to go to the battle front along with the airplanes. Wage controls led to windfall profits for some firms, which, in turn, were subject to extortionate rates of taxation. In response to all this, clever employers hit upon the idea of offering workers non-wage benefits including, among other things, health insurance.

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2012/03/obamacare_and_the_individual_mandate_penalizing_people_who_don_t_have_health_insurance_is_nothing_new_.html

Recon 0311 2533

March 30th, 2012
3:32 pm

“And I disagree. We got some of those “fresh idea” people in there now. I don’t see that they’ve improved things any.”

The “fresh idea” people may not have all the answers but they’ve called attention to the most important issue we face as a nation, our ever growing debt and failure to operate within a disciplined budget.

Simple Truths

March 30th, 2012
3:33 pm

Redneck, all those beer cans you deliver must be worth something. The price of aluminum is pretty high right now!

Jack

March 30th, 2012
3:33 pm

So what else is new.

josef

March 30th, 2012
3:39 pm

Anybody who thinks for one minute that they’re not all in it for what they can get is more naive than I was the first time I went to vote…besides, what do you expect when they’re the ones making the rules. You can’t trust a one of them.

Otherwise, where’s the music?

Fred ™

March 30th, 2012
3:40 pm

Since we are talking about fund raising………. I get emails at least once a day from the Obama campaign asking for THREE DOLLARS.

What’s up with that? Why are they asking for just three bucks lol? Anyone know? Any of you Democrats? Jay? What’s the strategy?

Fred ™

March 30th, 2012
3:42 pm

Oh and does everyone have their ticket to win over half a BILLION dollars?

I read about one idiot who bought 1000 tickets. Just damn. Talk about a waste of $999.00………

Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

March 30th, 2012
3:42 pm

the most important issue we face as a nation, our ever growing debt and failure to operate within a disciplined budget.

You all have drunk the kool-aid without spilling a drop!

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
3:43 pm

“The “fresh idea” people may not have all the answers..”

Not “all” the answers? They don’t have ANY answers. We already knew about the problems they’ve called attention to. We don’t need finger pointing, we need answers. They don’t have any. Obstruction is not an “answer” that has any value.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

March 30th, 2012
3:44 pm

Why are they asking for just three bucks lol?

They don’t want you broke?

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
3:44 pm

And with that, I’m out. My week didn’t get any better and I need to get out of the house for a while.

josef

March 30th, 2012
3:45 pm

Fred

Used to be I could say they were donating to a good cause, education, but, no more…

Joseph

March 30th, 2012
3:45 pm

Why did you not mention the President Obama Jay? He does use our jet to trot around the country campaigning on tax payer dime. You just gotta bash Congress don’t you… LOL….

Recon 0311 2533

March 30th, 2012
3:46 pm

“You all have drunk the kool-aid without spilling a drop!”

I’d rather drink Kool-Aid than suck up the sand that my heads buried deeply in.

Brosephus™

March 30th, 2012
3:49 pm

100% public financing only for elections will remedy that problem very quickly. Anything less would be uncivilized.

Recon 0311 2533

March 30th, 2012
3:49 pm

Evidently Doggone, who I guess is gone prefers the people who’ve offered no ideas.

josef

March 30th, 2012
3:50 pm

JOSEPH

Campaigning on the taxpayers’ dime is one of the perks of incumbancy…another reason for term limits…

Joseph

March 30th, 2012
3:51 pm

How about Ma Michelle vactioning in Vegas on tax payer dime….. That gal is having the time of her life…..

Mighty Righty

March 30th, 2012
3:54 pm

We all know what the problem is. What is the solution? Term limits won’t work. The courts struck down campaign finance reform. It isn’t just Congress. Obama spends more time raising money than he does being president. I don’t blame Obama, it’s the system. I havn’t seen any ideas here that will wok.

I remember

March 30th, 2012
3:54 pm

NPR. Nuff said.

Brosephus™

March 30th, 2012
3:55 pm

How about Ma Michelle vactioning in Vegas on tax payer dime….. That gal is having the time of her life…..

Who cares???

My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)

March 30th, 2012
4:00 pm

Brosephus™

March 30th, 2012
3:55 pm
How about Ma Michelle vactioning in Vegas on tax payer dime….. That gal is having the time of her life…..

Who cares???
-___________________________________________________________________________

If you want a dangerous President, give him an unhappy wife.

Do we really want that?

Brosephus™

March 30th, 2012
4:08 pm

That Guy

He obviously has very little experience with an angry wife. :)

On a more serious note, who would expect the first family to live their “fishbowl” life without taking a break?

Joseph

March 30th, 2012
4:09 pm

Brosephus™:

I do as a tax payer…. She along with her husband has been a miserable failure….

Brosephus™

March 30th, 2012
4:24 pm

Joseph

You have that right, but you do not speak for everyone. I’m more concerned about how much more our country will be sold out by the very people we elect to do the opposite. Congress wastes far more taxpayer money than the First Lady does.

Bhorsoft

March 30th, 2012
4:27 pm

Eliminate Political Science degrees.

Joe Hussein Mama

March 30th, 2012
4:43 pm

Bhrosoft — “Eliminate Political Science degrees.”

Couldn’t hack the midterm, huh? :D

Stonethrower

March 30th, 2012
5:03 pm

…….and the band played on!

saywhat?

March 30th, 2012
5:05 pm

Talking Head

March 30th, 2012
3:23 pm
i just had to laugh when i saw this..the ‘anger games’
_______________________________________________________

You are probably one of only a few.

GT

March 30th, 2012
5:49 pm

Obama tried mighty at the laughter of the GOP to eliminate some of this. Ari Fleischer quiet often sounds like a mob attorney with some smooth smirking jab at O for being a flip flopper on super packs. The Supreme Court decision, to continue with super packs, was tainted in the eyes of the president and mentioned in a State of the Union speech with the full court and their robes seated in front of him. There was talk that the next speech would be boycotted by the judges, and ,to me, they showing up, this year for the speech, is a worse sign that they now consider themselves political like the rest of Washington. O realizing an uneven playing field and refusing to fall to Ari Fleischer’s contrived taunts reverse his field and said you name your weapons GOP and I will play by your rules, but the money being spent by this is ridiculous and I am willing to change my direction anytime you choice to fight a fair fight, I will win either way.

What the GOP has done to themselves is narrow their campaign to raise money, they have to find favor with narrow minded moneyed backers. The Democrats on the other hand have raised money as a defense to the onslaught of the GOP and have far more freedom to model their planks to a higher calling such as women’s rights, the future health of the American citizen, a independence to foreign oil, in one way encouraging alternative energy and a more human immigration policy.

This money is the sole reason the Republican Party is becoming a dinosaur. The grassroots of the party and America are drowned out to the smell of the money. Great ideas come from the natural growth of ideas from the real needs of the people. The Democrats are far more in tune with this grassroots than the Republicans.

dbm

March 30th, 2012
10:13 pm

As long as government is so powerful, controlling, and pervasive, businessmen will have to curry favor with politicians to avoid being crushed or savaged, and will be tempted to get extra benefits while they’re at it. The only way out is to strictly limit government.

Cash Rules Everything (Dollar, Dollar Bill Y'all)

March 30th, 2012
10:28 pm

” Day after day begging other people for money would sap the soul out of anyone.”

Some live for the bill
Some kill for the bill
Some whine for the bill
Some steal for the bill

Money, money-money-money
Money, money-money-money
It drives the world crazy

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

March 30th, 2012
10:54 pm

LMAO…..just read Keith Olbermann got fired again. He personifies the ultra liberal “my poo doesn’t smell and I am better than you” attitude. Looks like even decent liberals couldn’t stomach the guy any longer.

The quicker these extremists like Olbermann and Beck fade away the better off this country will be.

Hey Keith – when you keep getting fire maybe the problem is in the mirror.