Paul Ryan budget seeks Ayn Rand’s America

“The reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand.”

– U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan

“Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to become the means by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of other men. Blood, whips and guns–or dollars. Take your choice–there is no other.”

― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

The U.S. House passed Paul Ryan’s proposed budget this week, a budget that slashes almost every conceivable program that protects the vulnerable among us — Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, college loans, education support, etc. — in order to finance large tax cuts for the wealthy. The country that such a budget document would produce would be a cold and callous place, a description that an Ayn Rand acolyte such as Ryan would probably embrace as praise.

Every House Democrat as well as 10 Republicans voted against the bill.

Despite Ryan’s claims to the contrary, it is not a budget driven by concern about the debt and deficit. No budget that cuts taxes and thus revenue by trillions of dollars — including by dropping the top tax rate from 35 to 25 percent — can be said to be motivated by fiscal prudence. Quite the contrary. Let’s talk bluntly: The goal of the Ryan budget is to cut the poor, the weak, the young, the sick and the elderly adrift from federal support in order to save money for the wealthy.

In comments earlier this week, the supposed spending-conscious Ryan also spoke out against proposals to cut defense spending. The cuts aren’t large — $487 billion spread over the next decade. Pentagon chiefs have testified that they can handle cuts of that magnitude, but Ryan rejects that claim. He opposes all proposed cuts to defense, he said, warning that “what I believe is, this budget does hollow out defense. I believe this budget goes beyond where we should go to keep people safe.”

For those who missed it, let me republish a chart I ran earlier:

defense


– Jay Bookman

305 comments Add your comment

Butch Cassidy

March 30th, 2012
9:20 am

Jm – “Butch, you going to the NY auto show?

New Lincoln MKZ looks pretty cool. Might actually make me want to buy an American car.”

Wasn’t planning on the auto show, but your right, the MKZ is pretty sweet. I bought the CAN AM so that I had a good compromise between the Prius and the Subway. It’s nice to get out and ride in tho pen air every once in a while. I was surprised at how much I liked it. I just went to look at them yesterday, and ended up riding it home. LOL

Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

March 30th, 2012
9:22 am

Look at today in Europe. Countries with policies similar to what Libs would put into effect are failing left and right.

Yeah, just look at Norway, and Switzerland, and Germany, and Sweden, and Denmark, and Belgium, and Spain, and……LOL

fail

Steve

March 30th, 2012
9:22 am

Joseph, the data and current reality points to the obvious fact that we are moving closer to plutocratic governance via conservative political moves. The obvious apparently eludes you when the GOP is fighting to maintain corporate welfare (YOUR TAX MONEY) to prop up the uber prosperous oil industry during a recession and a time of large debt.

Kill Your TV

March 30th, 2012
9:23 am

Our poor people are fat. They don’t need more food. They need to hit the gym, or use the low cost version: a pair of sneakers and go running.

But that won’t happen unless you want the nanny state shutting down poor people’s TV’s.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

March 30th, 2012
9:23 am

Dang, ByteMe. You are beating me to the punch.

TaxPayer

March 30th, 2012
9:24 am

And just soes we dont goes and discriminate against just the evil oil companies when we starts eliminating tax deductions to pay for a tad of Ryan’s yellowbrick roadmap, how abouts we gets rid of that thar foreign tax credit first thang since every corporation and individual gets that one.

Midori

March 30th, 2012
9:24 am

Just wondering: is Joseph the reincarnation of “wow”?

Steve

March 30th, 2012
9:25 am

“Kill your Tv” – use the googles. Facts!

Childhood Hunger in America

Nearly one in five children in America can’t count on having enough to eat. Their bodies may not be rail thin, nor their bellies bloated like their counterparts in other countries, but they’re at risk of hunger all the same. They lack the energy to learn, grow and thrive. Download the 2011 Childhood Hunger Factsheet.

More than 16 million children in America are at risk of hunger. That’s more than 1 in 5.
15.7 million children in America live in poverty.
18.6 million children benefit from SNAP (food stamps).
Over 20 million children get a free or reduced-price school lunch on an average school day.
Only 10.5 million children get a free or reduced-price school breakfast on an average school day.
6 out of 7 children who qualify for a free or reduced-price school lunch do not currently access free summer meals.

http://www.strength.org/childhood_hunger/?gclid=COPq1ZPcjq8CFUZN4Aod6TDVyA

1,756 more days (Obama) + 2,920 more days (Hilary) formerly known as Soothsayer

March 30th, 2012
9:25 am

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
9:26 am

Byteme 9:16 wrong. The top 10% comprise 30% of consumer spending.

Source? And I didn’t say 10%, which runs all the way down to people earning about $80K, if I remember right. I said 1%.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 30th, 2012
9:27 am

JAY:

Same old “hash”.

Try a new menu.

1,756 more days (Obama) + 2,920 more days (Hilary) formerly known as Soothsayer

March 30th, 2012
9:27 am

Hi Midori! My money’s on Little Davy Crybaby!

Jm

March 30th, 2012
9:28 am

Butch
Yeah, new MKZ may come as a plug in hybrid too.

I use my bicycle for open air riding :)

Bloomberg ha a write up on the bike lanes on the new bridge the other day. $400mm? Woof….

Jm

March 30th, 2012
9:29 am

Byteme, I know you said 1%, but the point is the same. I’ll try to find the source but I read it a while ago.

JamVet

March 30th, 2012
9:30 am

Now, since you continue to promote it, please do explain to me how trickle down economics has buoyed the American middle class over the past thirty years, OK?

This is your reply.

Capitalisim with it’s trickle down is not perfect, but look at the alternatives.

Granted, which is not juvenile and non-contributory to the discussion like:

Republicans love the rich and hate the poor!!!

But still…

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
9:31 am

, I know you said 1%, but the point is the same. I’ll try to find the source but I read it a while ago.

No, the point is that if you group the 1% in with the top 20% and then try to claim that giving them all money is trickle-down, you’ve diluted your own message. People making $80K per year are not your mythic “job creators” that you claim to want to give money to.

Fedup

March 30th, 2012
9:33 am

What you bet Mr. Ryan will also need a heart transplant.

Jm

March 30th, 2012
9:33 am

Byteme, I was wrong. Top 10% spend 50%.

See “Ad Age”, google “top 10%”

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
9:34 am

When wingnuts have to fall back on making stuff up to “prove” their point, you can figure they really don’t have a winning argument… except in their own heads.

1,756 more days (Obama) + 2,920 more days (Hilary) formerly known as Soothsayer

March 30th, 2012
9:34 am

If only Redneck Convert was here. He has a way of explaining things so even I can understand.

Becky

March 30th, 2012
9:34 am

Fedup-Jon Stewart said it best:

Cheney needed a heart IMPLANT as will Ryan paid for by me and you.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

March 30th, 2012
9:35 am

For you folks still out there who can’t wait for all of the facts to come in on the Martin/Zimmerman debacle:

“12 year old kid (hardened thug) KO ‘ing a cop with his bare hands”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUHJ-Wq4PuY&feature=related

Jm

March 30th, 2012
9:35 am

Byteme, your handle is correct. You are an economics goon.

Becky

March 30th, 2012
9:36 am

Jay-please follow Kyle’s lead and ban posters for going off topic.

St Simons - we're on Island time

March 30th, 2012
9:36 am

“Ayn Rand wrote fantasy novels for stunted, undeveloped psyches.
There is supposed to be psychological development in normal adults
after this common narcisstic phase. I mean, don’t these (inaudible) dorks
realize she was on Medicare & Social Security?”

-mrsstsimons, who’s qualified to say stuff like that

barking frog

March 30th, 2012
9:36 am

Increasing taxes makes
the greedy work harder.

Jm

March 30th, 2012
9:37 am

Becky. Jay seems to like the maelstrom.

JamVet

March 30th, 2012
9:38 am

To demonstrate the magnitude of the irrational denial of these trickle downers, they want to further gut or even eliminate corporate federal income taxes taxes.

Never mind that many of these BIG businesses are showing RECORD PROFITS. Along with record criminal activity.

Staggering amounts of capital on hand and staggering executive salaries.

From 1995 – 2005 CEO salaries rose 240%. The men and women who worked at those companies? 4%

Proof that the working class in America continues it’s decades long swirl down the trickle down toilet…

Adam

March 30th, 2012
9:38 am

Jay-please follow Kyle’s lead and ban posters for going off topic.

OMG Jay HATES cons and LOVES liberals…. or something

Fedup

March 30th, 2012
9:39 am

Ryan and Rand, Do these folks ever read the bible. I’ll bet these Bible thumping Repugs ignore everything they read on Sunday.

JamVet

March 30th, 2012
9:40 am

Corporal, maybe there is a Stormfront blog somewhere out there awaiting you…

Jm

March 30th, 2012
9:40 am

Scotusblog says ACA opponents scored an 11 this week. On a scale of 10 obviously.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
9:42 am

“Jay-please follow Kyle’s lead and ban posters for going off topic”

and if you don’t like how Jay runs his blog you are free to go somewhere else, or start your own and run it as YOU see fit.

Adam

March 30th, 2012
9:42 am

It would be a shame if the entire law’s fate hinges on only the oral arguments made.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

March 30th, 2012
9:44 am

Mass. : ryan is just another sociapathic republican living in a fantasy world.

A very cold, cruel and stark fantasy world. I’ve never read Ayn Rand, not my cup of tea, but was she even familiar with the history of what happens to people oppressed for too long? Maybe instead of philosophy or whatever her genre was, she should’ve studied the French Revolution, or the Bolshevik Revolution.

Mick: Paul ryan, pathetic standard bearer of the new breed of americans, pity the future if they get control…

Word.

Carlosgov.: Why support politicians who have nothing but contempt for you?

THAT is the $65K question.

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
9:44 am

Jm – for the moment, an economics goon. Later, who knows?

As to the article… I had to follow it back to the source. The American Affluence Research Council. Digging deeper, they do half-assed surveys of the top 10% (only). I’m not able to see the actual survey they did (if you have it that would help your point), but they seem to be self-administered, low-response surveys of just the top 10%.

I’m not disagreeing with the number yet, I just don’t see enough to back it, so it’s still a suspect number. If you have something with more details, that would be helpful.

rightwing troll

March 30th, 2012
9:44 am

What about foreign aid? What does it do to foreign aid?

We’ll still give bazillions to Israel so they can continue to subsidize the ultra orthodox by letting them exempt from compulsory military service and accept welfare for the entirety of their adult lives so they can study the Torah… Oh, I’m sorry, just the men… because much the Muslims they don’t believe women should go out in public…

timbo

March 30th, 2012
9:46 am

At least something was proposed.

Becky

March 30th, 2012
9:46 am

I still maintain if we tax all the churches in the USA the debt would be paid down overnight.

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
9:46 am

It would be a shame if the entire law’s fate hinges on only the oral arguments made.

Near as I can tell, it won’t. Often the oral arguments are just there to help the court frame their responses, not to actually decide their vote. In fact, the vote is this morning. So they already read the briefs and were considering what to vote long before the oral arguments.

Jm

March 30th, 2012
9:46 am

Moody’s: top 5% account for 37% of consumer spending

Ok. Gotta work.

rightwing troll

March 30th, 2012
9:48 am

“I still maintain if we tax all the churches in the USA the debt would be paid down overnight.”

Let the ones that are still churches be, just tax the politically active churches… that would be most of the Mosterthedrals where you can sit a population of a small town in “fellowship”…

Jm

March 30th, 2012
9:48 am

Btw that was Moody’s Analytics

kayaker 71

March 30th, 2012
9:50 am

It’s not because I can’t find my economic ass with both hands…. its those evil rich people who are to blame because you can’t find a job, your house is underwater, you’ve been on unemployment for months…. No, I had nothing to do with it, so vote for me and then we can continue to do this economic lunacy for another four years.

Jm

March 30th, 2012
9:50 am

Byteme 9:46

SC observers are studying the chimney smoke

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
9:50 am

We’ll still give bazillions to Israel so

Foreign aid budget is… all of about $50 billion (including military aid).

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/19/us-usa-aid-idUSTRE7BI1KO20111219

Compared to a $3.8 trillion budget. It’s called “a rounding error”.

JohnnyReb

March 30th, 2012
9:51 am

Ryan’s Budget – someone asked earlier of me to list specifics from Ryan’s budget where the tax rate cuts are offset by elimination of deductions and loopholes.

The answer is, they have not yet been identified. Ryan’s budget committee is charged with putting out the framework for the budget. Another committee, sorry I don’t have their title, is charged with identifiying the specifics to achieve the goals of the budget.

So, the bottom line at present is, all the wailing about what it will do to the poor or for the rich are at this point conjecture.

Gale

March 30th, 2012
9:51 am

The SC probably had a decision before the case was brought to them and the oral arguments were just to determine if there was anything that might change the decision. The mandate was criticized as unconstitutional before ACA became law.

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
9:52 am

Moody’s: top 5% account for 37% of consumer spending

So giving them more money STILL doesn’t move the needle enough.

SC observers are studying the chimney smoke

What I read was even after the vote, justices can change their minds as they read the draft briefs prepared for each response. So we’ll all still have to wait a few months.

Adam

March 30th, 2012
9:53 am

I don’t normally respond to people on my ignore list, such as timbo, but this is too good:

At least something was proposed.

At least something was proposed?

At least something was proposed?!?!?

Oh really?

Really?

Click on the links to find out that other proposals also exist, including one from the House Democrats that you have never heard of. You have only been paying attention to what the CONSERVATIVE MEDIA wants you to pay attention to.

There now, you’re back on my ignore list, which means I won’t be responding to you no matter how much you think you may have “won” by presenting some counter straw man argument or conservative talking point.

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
9:54 am

The answer is, they have not yet been identified. Ryan’s budget committee is charged with putting out the framework for the budget. Another committee, sorry I don’t have their title, is charged with identifiying the specifics to achieve the goals of the budget.

So what you’re saying is that the budget proposal is about as useful as, say, a vote to commemorate someone for bravery. It’s nice, but doesn’t affect the Republic one bit.

It’s about the appropriations bills. That’s where the real work happens. When you see Republicans voting for those that are completely the opposite of what they voted for in their budgets, you’ll know you’ve been had. Like last year. And the year before that.

Jm

March 30th, 2012
9:55 am

Byteme

Yeah, it’s an iterative process. Final opinion released in June

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

March 30th, 2012
9:55 am

High earners do. If they keep more of their earned money they will either invest or spend it. Even is they bank it, the banks will make more loans, businesses will grow, hire more people, et al. The end result will be more revenue into the tax coffers. Everyone’s boat lifts.

At first I thought you were just teasing until I figured out you were actually serious. How very, very sad.

Jm: Our poor are fat. We don’t need to spend more taxpayer money on the poor and education, we need to spend it smarter and we can spend less too.

By doing away with public education, which I believe is the republican’s ultimate plan; dumbs down everyone in the country; not just the poor. A country can not strive with a populace that is 99% illiterate with a 1% ruling class. History has shown us this time and time again.

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
9:56 am

Final opinion released in June

Until then, there’s intrade ready to take anyone’s bet.

Peadawg

March 30th, 2012
9:58 am

” In fact, the vote is this morning.” – If the vote is this morning, why do we have to wait until June to hear the decision?

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
9:58 am

Even is they bank it, the banks will make more loans, businesses will grow, hire more people

Heh. Didn’t see this nonsense. Economics Goon to the rescue!

Businesses don’t grow unless there is demand for their products. Demand comes from consumers of the products, not from banks. Banks — when they’re lending to businesses, which they haven’t been for a while — just help facilitate a business when it’s growing to help smooth out the cash flow issues. They don’t create demand, new consumers, or even new jobs.

Unless it’s personal yachts. THOSE are driven by giving more money to rich people, although I expect they would buy one if they wanted it even without a tax exemption.

gadem

March 30th, 2012
9:59 am

I fail to understand why conservatives continue to regurgitate the same false theory of trickle down economics. Trickle down has never worked as long as I have been living…those policies don’t work, but the conservative leaders would like to make the followers think that they do. That is the very definition of insanity if you ask me…

Adam

March 30th, 2012
9:59 am

Peadawg: They have to spend months writing the decision up and making sure the wording says what they want it to say without setting precedents they don’t want to set or overturning precedents they don’t want to overturn.

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2012
10:00 am

We can all agree that democrats would spend more on extra-Constitutional give away programs, while leaving the US vulnerable to evildoers. And democrats do not care about the solvency of either social security and medicare, and willfully spend until those programs cannot survive financially – just as financial limitation exposes any Ponzi Scheme.

Leftists are not smart enough to give Rep Ryan credit for developing a long-term program to ensure the financial viability of social security, and changes in medicare to ensure that some semblance of the program can survive until 2020. No, leftists think ObamaCare is great idea. Leftist think the Stimulus was a good idea, the same Stimulus that now shackles our grandchildren to pay the debts for those who live for today.

Most people who condemn Ayn Rand have never read Atlas Shrugged. Just as most who condemn Rush Limbaugh have never listened to a week of his shows. It is over their intellectual paygrade.

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
10:00 am

If the vote is this morning, why do we have to wait until June to hear the decision?

See the other comments. The vote is this morning, the writing of the opinions is assigned by the most senior judge for each side. After draft opinions are written, they are routed around and the judges can change their sides if they find something in one of the opinions to be compelling. All this takes a little while.

stands for decibels

March 30th, 2012
10:01 am

Obama cut $500 billion from Medicare! He could care less about old people but he dosen’t mind funding abortions to kill babies…..

the Tard is strong with this one.

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
10:02 am

We can all agree

When ragnar starts something that way, prepare for strawmen and false arguments.

Steve

March 30th, 2012
10:02 am

“Leftists” want to know what the deductions are in Ryan’s plan that he refuses to disclose, Ragnar.

You…kill me with your hysterical diatribe.

Mr. Snarky

March 30th, 2012
10:02 am

Ayn Rand was nuts. Just like today’s GOP.

Becky

March 30th, 2012
10:04 am

Ragnar is another on my ignore list for just making stuff up.

St Simons - we're on Island time

March 30th, 2012
10:04 am

The only thing this SC is “considering” is the political damage in Nov
of the Foolish 5 ’s vote. There is nothing “judicial” or credible about
this Court. History has already recorded that. If they think they won’t
be totally destroyed at the polls, they’ll strike it. They aren’t looking
at legal papers, ha, they’re looking at pollsters’ calculators.
They’re already operating under Ayn Rand’s “philosophy.”

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
10:04 am

Ayn Rand was nuts.

And Ms. Every Man For Himself was also on the government dole late in her life.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

March 30th, 2012
10:05 am

TruthBe: Jay Bookman you are a liar and a perverted mouthpiece for the DNC. All you do is what Media Matters and George Soros tells you what to write and do. Must be that Penn State child behavior up your a$$ behavior by your teachers and Coaches that gave you that a$$ing kissing brown noise behavior.

I didn’t think it was possible, but the loonies have hit an all time low. And that’s the truth TruthBe, that’s the truth.

Mr. Snarky

March 30th, 2012
10:06 am

“We can all agree…”

No we can’t…so STFU.

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2012
10:07 am

Dear Steve @ 10:02, good question roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/

Dear Byte @ 10:02, good morning, surely you do not affirm that democrats would maintain the defenses the Bush administration left. The Polish have valid complaint about Obama.

Doggone/GA

March 30th, 2012
10:07 am

“brown noise”

Noise comes in colors now?

Gordon

March 30th, 2012
10:07 am

Why does Jay write about the budget that didn’t pass the House instead of the one that did? Answer: Red meat for his loyal sheep.

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2012
10:08 am

Just out of curiousity, any leftists here read Atlas Shrugged cover to cover?

Steve

March 30th, 2012
10:08 am

Ragnar, what are those specific deductions Ryan is cutting? Homeowner’s tax credit perhaps?

Becky

March 30th, 2012
10:08 am

I wonder who inherited all the money from her books. She had no children. Anyone care to speculate? not really interested enough to google but the question is why didn’t she live off her own money instead of the govt. she despised?

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 30th, 2012
10:08 am

Why is it that the same bloggers who want the Ayn Rand (money is good) style of hands off government are still the ones whining about the President not doing anything about the gas prices?

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2012
10:08 am

Perhaps we can all agree that the Obama budget went down in flames in the Democrat-controlled Senate?

Steve

March 30th, 2012
10:08 am

Just out of curiousity, Ragnar, why was ms Rand on the public dole herself late in life?

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2012
10:09 am

It was a trick question, it was a unanimous vote in the House that sank the Obama budget. The Democrat controlled Senate has not voted on a budget in three years.

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
10:10 am

good morning, surely you do not affirm that democrats would maintain the defenses the Bush administration left

What defenses the Bush Admin left? The one struggling in two war zones?

My personal view is that military spending decisions should be left to the military and Congress needs to get out of the earmarking business when it comes to pushing military projects with businesses in their home districts.

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 30th, 2012
10:10 am

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2012
10:08 am

Yep, many years ago. I always thought it was a dark comedy like “Doctor Strangelove”. Never figured it would be taken seriously.

stands for decibels

March 30th, 2012
10:10 am

Noise comes in colors now?

Is white a color?

see also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7sNfbprnKU

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2012
10:11 am

Dear Steve @ 10:08, if you read Atlas Shrugged and understood the character of my nom-de-blog, the question would answer itself.

Fred ™

March 30th, 2012
10:11 am

JohnnyReb

March 30th, 2012
8:44 am

The tax rate cuts are accompanied by elimination of deductions and loop holes – it’s not a plain gimme as Jay insinuates.

Plus, obviously Liberals still don’t get it. Do middle income and below have enough disposable income to boost the economy? No. High earners do. If they keep more of their earned money they will either invest or spend it. Even is they bank it, the banks will make more loans, businesses will grow, hire more people, et al. The end result will be more revenue into the tax coffers. Everyone’s boat lifts.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

That has been proven false JohnReb. Why do you continue to eat that manna that the rich are feeding you? I know YOU aren’t one of the high earners. You are like the rest of us here, one of the pissed on. Quit toting the mail for the rich.

I paid less than 10% tax this year. Had I used the tax credit I can for my daughters private school, not only would I have payed ZERO PERCENT but I would have gotten someone else’s money back. I would have gotten more “income tax” back in my pocket than I paid in.

Oh and JohnnyReb? I’m not “poor.” I’m in either the 2% or the 3%. SOmething is wrong with the system Johnny. We need to cut some things, but we also need to RAISE taxes, not cut them. Cutting them is what got us in this mess………

Mr. Snarky

March 30th, 2012
10:11 am

I’ve read “The Fountainhead”. That was enough piss poor character development and simplistic ideological BS for me in one lifetime.

getalife

March 30th, 2012
10:11 am

They base their argument on fiction.

La la land.

Normal, Plain and Simple

March 30th, 2012
10:12 am

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2012
10:09 am

Because the Senate GOP minority keeps filibustering…

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2012
10:12 am

Dear Normal @ 10:10, do you not find the first section of the book eerily familiar? I think “horror” is more apt, like a Stephen King novel except one covering the US economy.

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
10:13 am

That was enough piss poor character development and simplistic ideological BS for me in one lifetime.

I think it was the bad sex prose in the books that hooked all these adolescents into thinking that the underlying philosophy was important.

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2012
10:14 am

Dear Normal @ 10:12 – wrong. Budget votes require only a simple majority – filibuster is not permitted.

Steve

March 30th, 2012
10:14 am

I wouldn’t waste five minutes of my life reading Ayn Rand tripe.

Ahem

March 30th, 2012
10:14 am

And President Obama’s “budget” got how many votes…? I think the correct answer is ZERO.

Jay

March 30th, 2012
10:14 am

“Leftists are not smart enough to give Rep Ryan credit for developing a long-term program to ensure the financial viability of social security.”

Quite a telling insult there, Ragnar. Ouch.

Well, except for the fact that Ryan’s plan doesn’t recommend a single change in Social Security.

You want to know Ryan’s entire “plan” for Social Security? Here it is, verbatim:

“This budget heads off a crisis by calling on the President and both chambers of Congress to ensure the solvency of this critical program.”

Yup. It solves the problem by calling on Congress and the president to solve the problem.

In other words, it’s hard to give Ryan credit “for developing a long-term program to ensure the financial viability of social security” when in fact he hasn’t developed “a long-term program to ensure the financial viability of social security.”

barking frog

March 30th, 2012
10:16 am

Doggone,
Brown noise is good,
white noise is racist.

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2012
10:17 am

Democrats – especially the koolaid sippers on this blog – are unwilling to face the obvious fact of their dysfunctional governance. They spent wildly and ineffectively with the Stimulus plan, the endeavored to coerce all Americans into a medical plan where their death panels would preclude individual choices over life and death decisions, and they delude themselves into thinking the economy is roaring back to life under the constraints they placed over the economy (notably Dodd-Frank.) Delusional.

ByteMe - economics goon

March 30th, 2012
10:18 am

Delusional.

Pot? Kettle. Kettle? Pot.

JohnnyReb

March 30th, 2012
10:19 am

Fred – a dollar that stays in a community instead of going to the Feds ends up multiplying itself about 7 times before diminishing. As it changes hands, businesses enjoy a little more profit, taxes are paid at city and state levels that would not occur if the dollar went directly to the Feds.

It’s simple economics.

getalife

March 30th, 2012
10:20 am

rag,

Our economy is back thanks to our President.

gm

March 30th, 2012
10:21 am

TruthBe

And you suck up to the koch brothers, and fox misinformed news, who could care less if people died in the streets, welfare and other programs been around under several Presidents rep and dem, now we want to cut programs because of this President.
satans rep party at their best ””’

Fred ™

March 30th, 2012
10:23 am

ragnar danneskjold

March 30th, 2012
10:11 am

Dear Steve @ 10:08, if you read Atlas Shrugged and understood the character of my nom-de-blog, the question would answer itself.
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i read Atlas Shrugged for the first time when I was in the 8th grade. Even then I knew it to be the drugged induced inane ramblings of an amped out methhead ho with the morals of an alleycat, not a work of social importance.

That fantasy book Atlas Shrugged has no more reality in it than the mythical society practiced by the “household” of Valentine Micheal Smith. Both are fantasy lands which ignore truth and reality as well as human nature. There is a REASON that no true society has ever tried to mirror either crackpot fantasy. The fact that weirdo cult members such as yourself participate in the fantasy isn’t a validation, it’s just proof that in a society as large as ours there are bound to be a small percentage who are mentally unbalanced. That’s cool as in the larger safety net of our SANE society we can keep you from truly harming others or really yourself. I know people who attempt to live their lives as much as possible as if the were medieval knights and such. The Renaissance festival isn’t once a year in South Atlanta, it’s every day. Much in the same way you propagate this Ayn Rand fantasy. But they don’t harm anyone and they enjoy their fantasy life just as you enjoy your fantasy life. Good luck on finding that fantasy land. Since it makes you feel superior to all of us “idiots” who “don’t get it” I can say also that I’m glad I can be here to help boost your ego and sense of self worth for you. Maybe you should change your name to Don Quixote. He also jousted at imaginary windmills………