The Gingrich political career, now at an end
“A lot of us who were around him before and didn’t think this was a good idea from the beginning were worried this was the way it was going to end. He’s in danger, I think, of becoming a laughingstock.”
– Rich Galen, former staff member for Newt Gingrich, quoted in Politico
The sense of personal destiny that has driven Newt Gingrich throughout his life, the deep and defining belief that he was fated to do great things and write his name in large letters upon the history books, has finally run aground on the sharp shoals of reality. And that is a hard thing for the former speaker and Georgia congressman to accept.
He has no money and in fact his campaign is deeply in debt. He lacks the resources to travel, let alone buy campaign ads, and the press has abandoned him, raising the age-old question: If a man utters pearls of profound wisdom, and no one is there to hear him, did he really utter them at all? Yet still he presses on, insistent against all evidence that he remains relevant. As he told Fox this week, “I have no incentive to get out because I have a set of ideas that include $2.50-a-gallon gas, etc. So I have every incentive to stay in.”
I’m sorry: “$2.50-a-gallon gas” is not an idea, it is an ill-disguised pander inconsistent with reality. Newt’s inability to distinguish between an idea and a pander betrays a lot about how he thinks, and about why he has fallen so short of his dreams.
To give the man his due, Gingrich has fashioned a political career that by most standards would be considered a huge success. He truly did shock the political world when he led a Republican revolution in 1994 that ended the Democrats’ death grip on the House of Representatives. He was enormously gifted, possessed with a clever mind and one of the sharpest tongues in American political history. And his strong sense of personal destiny insulated him against doubts that might have haunted other men.
But a clever mind is not a wise mind. A man so easily distracted by shiny intellectual objects, flitting from one idea to the next, can never attain the depth suggested by the most prominent words in the Gingrich vocabulary, such as “profound” and “fundamental.” And those who are equipped to lead heady revolutions are almost never equipped for the day-to-day drudgery required to govern and to build.
However, the fatal flaw that ensured that Gingrich would never satisfy the ambition that burned within him was his basic lack of respect for other people. The contempt that he showered upon opponents in public life was reflected in his private life as well, and also in how he treated colleagues and staff. He showed little loyalty and earned little loyalty, and in politics as in life, that makes long-term success very difficult.
– Jay Bookman
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Common Sense isn't very Common
March 29th, 2012
8:58 am
Go Newt GO
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 29th, 2012
9:01 am
Newt who?
Stonethrower
March 29th, 2012
9:02 am
He fought a good fight and kept the faith! Georgia loves him even if no other state does. Read into that as you will.
Common Sense isn't very Common
March 29th, 2012
9:03 am
I like the other definition of a panderer.
Newt be a pimp?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
9:03 am
JAY:
He got a lot farther than you ever did (or could have).
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
9:04 am
“He got a lot farther than you ever did (or could have).”
And fell a lot farther too
Call it like it is
March 29th, 2012
9:04 am
“Yet still he presses on, insistent against all evidence that he remains relevant”
But yet you continue to talk about him, thus keeping him relevant.
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
March 29th, 2012
9:05 am
June 30, 2012
FOX NEWS RELEASE:
We are proud to announce that Fox News has hired Newt Gingrich as our newest Fair & Balanced contributor.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
9:05 am
No no no, see, it’s not at an end, it’s just TOO AWESOME FOR HUMAN COMPREHENSION
Stonethrower
March 29th, 2012
9:06 am
Please define farther and what makes you think Jay’s goal in life was to define success by Newt’s and for that matter, your standards.
Jay
March 29th, 2012
9:06 am
So a requiem for your political career proves you’re still relevant, Call It?
That’s like saying an obituary proves you’re still alive.
HDB
March 29th, 2012
9:07 am
Newt polarized too many established Republicans…..plus he polarized too many constituents….and politically…that never works!!
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
9:07 am
I really think it was just bad timing. Newt obviously thought that the general public had finally dumbed down enough to where they’d believe any BS line he could throw out. Unfortunately, only SC and GA had reached the level of intelligince needed for a Gingrich victory. Maybe he can try again in 20 years.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
9:08 am
Newt as the “idea man” always struck me as more of a “man with ideas that we’re going to throw onto the wall to see what sticks”
Becky
March 29th, 2012
9:08 am
Which religion and woman will Noot try next? Calista must be shaking in her pradas.
southdem
March 29th, 2012
9:08 am
Well, this born and bred Georgian hates that d—n carpetbagger’s guts. Andrew Sullivan at The Dish summed up Gingrich perfectly: “Newt Gingrich is a dumb person’s idea of a smart person.” Goodbye Newt, you won’t be missed.
Peadawg
March 29th, 2012
9:10 am
“Newt who?”
All that needs to be said…
Jerome Horwitz
March 29th, 2012
9:11 am
Darn – I was looking forward to that 2.50/gallon gas. Such disappointment.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
9:11 am
Did Sheldon Adelson really think Noot had a ghost of a chance? Why would he spend so much money on him? I never have understood this.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
9:12 am
Hey Doggone:
The other night I posted something about the shooting and you got all over me.
Sorry, but I was just reinforcing your previous post by pointing out Zimmerman’s black friends, etc. !!
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
9:12 am
Becky – “Why would he spend so much money on him?”
He’s planning to take the tax deduction under “Charitable Contributions”
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
9:12 am
Not a fan of newt but I do admire how he stirs up so much anger from the left…”so he has that goin’ for him, which is nice”
JohnnyReb
March 29th, 2012
9:13 am
“And those who are equipped to lead heady revolutions are almost never equipped for the day-to-day drudgery required to govern and to build.”
Jay, that’s a good line. Save it for Obama’s political obituary come November, it fits very nicely.
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
9:14 am
ty webb – “so he has that goin’ for him, which is nice”
“So I say, hey lama, how about a little something, you know, for the effort”
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
9:15 am
Butch,
nice!
jconservative
March 29th, 2012
9:15 am
About three hundred Republicans served with Gingrich in the years surrounding his speakership of the House. Of those three hundred about 6 supported his bid for the Republican nomination for president. That says more about Gingrich than I or Jay or anyone can write about him.
Jym Allyn
March 29th, 2012
9:15 am
You can fool some of the people all of the time….
But even Newt has discovered despite his huge ego and salesmanship (ability to tell lies while sounding truthful) that eventually most people will catch on that you are a fool and a con artist.
Thank you, Jay, for your assessment of what a sleaze-bag he really is.
ByteMe - popularity goon
March 29th, 2012
9:16 am
Which religion and woman will Noot try next? Calista must be shaking in her pradas.
I hear there will be tryouts announced in a few months.
larry
March 29th, 2012
9:16 am
anger ? More like amusment.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
9:18 am
Actually I imagine Calista is out looking for her next conquest. Maybe Noot is shaking in his slippers? I sure hope they had a prenup.
HarKenToh
March 29th, 2012
9:18 am
The Big Ideas man with a Big Head and a Big Belly with a Big ego to match.
Good riddance – probably needs a cheaper #4 now that there will no historical (lobbying) advise retainerships coming his way.
How about applying for that janitor job you wanted for inner city kids, eh?
Jay
March 29th, 2012
9:19 am
Getting other people angry by calling them names is not exactly a sophisticated skill set, Ty. Most first-graders have mastered it.
Most also outgrow it, evidence on this blog notwithstanding.
Talking Head
March 29th, 2012
9:22 am
I bet if Newt started doing Zaxby’s commercials his campaign would come back to life!
GT
March 29th, 2012
9:22 am
Take that Callista Gingrich he pork barreled into this deal with him. If it was possible to make a more negative impression she insured it. The third wife of a family values candidate, just shows how weak the Republican field is to not have this slugger in the pits already. And the moral substance of a right wing southern voting block that Newt milked about as long as anyone this side of a prison cell could. Making the candidate a laughing stock is the least thing on my mind, he has insulted his party, his country and Christians who deserve a huge amount of the blame for this freak lasting this long.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
9:22 am
History is full of those who grasped for the brass ring ultimately only to fail in their attempt. It often happens when you go over to the dark side like Newt.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
9:22 am
A philandering, immoral little man that earned the respect of other immoral little men.
And other than that his legacy of a despicable crap tossing narcissistic who, more than any other single human being, sent civility and compromise in Washington down the neocon toilet, who cares?
Georgia’s Dumb and Dumber dual candidates of dipstickery merely confirm what the rest of the nation already knows – the best of this state’s GOP is laughably abysmal…
Attack Dog
March 29th, 2012
9:27 am
Newt’s ego is the reason that Willard is the frontrunner and not Santorum.
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
9:27 am
Jay,
I didn’t say people…I said the left.
marty
March 29th, 2012
9:27 am
Becky
It was worth $10 million to Mr. Adelson for Newt to throw “the Palestinians are a contrived people” into the political discussion. Besides, there is a lot of money in Roulette tables.
Road Scholar
March 29th, 2012
9:28 am
Jerome: The people in hell want ice water also.
I wonder how long his ego …er…he will last on FOX? Glenn Beck’s replacement?
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
9:29 am
He presided over the most shameful political witchhunt in American history, wasting over $200 million of taxpayer dollars in an attempt to sieze power for his part and override democracy.
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 29th, 2012
9:29 am
Did Ty make a funny? I think Ty made a funny! Not a very good one, but at least he tried. Way to go, Ty.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
9:30 am
Newt is at the end of his political career but he is not a young man. What will Santorum do now? His home state already threw him out. He will be the one to be on Fox News I think or he will join up with that other creep Ralph Reed and continue spewing his filth.
JF McNamara
March 29th, 2012
9:30 am
Stay classy Jay. I don’t care much for him either, but there is no need to kick dirt on the grave.
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
9:30 am
But who will the GOP constituency in Georgia vote for! They cannot vote for those other candidates. I suggest a write-in campaign for the Newt. Scout can head up the effort.
ZoSo
March 29th, 2012
9:32 am
“Getting other people angry by calling them names is not exactly a sophisticated skill set.”
Great line Jay. I wish your regular bloggers would take note, and I mean both left and right.
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
9:34 am
being a philanderer may make one a bad person, but it’s hardly a disqualifier for being a good(effective) politician…history has taught us that.
Jay
March 29th, 2012
9:34 am
Me too, ZoSo.
On both the left and right.
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
9:34 am
Geez, Georgia really has a hard time picking winners. First the Confederacy, then Herman Cain and now Newt. Might want to re-think your position in the next election Georgia.
Newtiepewtie
March 29th, 2012
9:36 am
Maybe the stench from the Stinkrich Fog is finally dissipating. The only one under its spell, now, is Newt and Calista. Once Calista wakes up, she’s probably gonna lose interest in Newtron and go for “greener pastures.”
HarKenToh
March 29th, 2012
9:37 am
“So it ends for Gingrich without even a whimper. He will go through the motions of campaigning while visiting zoos (I suspect the Milwaukee County Zoo will merit a pre-primary visit) and dining in plush hotel restaurants with Callista. ”
http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/101976/newt-gingrich-presidential-campaign-eulogy
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
9:37 am
Butch,
now now, you failed to mention that at least Georgia has had one of their own elected president…oh wait…nevermind.
Contrarian
March 29th, 2012
9:37 am
Wingfield got taken in the by Newtster. Hook, line and sinker. Just sayin’.
ByteMe - popularity goon
March 29th, 2012
9:38 am
Might want to re-think your position in the next election Georgia.
Nah. Their faith in their infallability is strong.
ragnar danneskjold
March 29th, 2012
9:38 am
I thought the Speaker’s political career was over more than 10 years ago, and at least two other times during the past year (most notably when he disparaged the Paul Ryan budget one year ago.) Suspect there will be an appointed position in the Romney administration. I think he would be good at FCC or NLRB.
Mick
March 29th, 2012
9:38 am
Jay – nice column, your perspective is fair and balanced concerning his career…
Becky
March 29th, 2012
9:39 am
Newt and Calista may be dining in fine restaurants and staying in lovely hotels but apparently they aren’t paying the bills. Oops.
ragnar danneskjold
March 29th, 2012
9:39 am
Or FTC – yes, FTC.
ByteMe - popularity goon
March 29th, 2012
9:39 am
Wingfield got taken in the by Newtster
It really is hard to know which sociopathic politician to believe.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
9:39 am
Jay couldn’t bring himself to write anything good about Newt even if he found the cure for cancer. Nothing but hatred spewed on the man from that keyboard week after week after week.
Tell us, Jay, what “journalism” class do they teach hatred in?
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
9:39 am
ty – “now now, you failed to mention that at least Georgia has had one of their own elected president…oh wait…nevermind.”
LOL, I still stand by my original statement.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
9:40 am
“being a philanderer may make one a bad person, but it’s hardly a disqualifier for being a good(effective) politician”
It’s not the philandering that’s the problem, it’s the claiming the high ground on “family values” WHILE philandering Or to make it easier: it’s not the mistress, it’s the hypocrisy
GT
March 29th, 2012
9:40 am
Talking about FOX when does Murdock get off the bus too. PBS this week went inch by inch on how he has controlled and contrived the British government dictating winners and losers in the political arena from his offices in Australia. He uses the raw soap opera emotions of the population, feeds them raw meat and hacks victims telephones, in a criminal display of arrogance that rivals Newt’s. This makes so little sense until you add FOX to the picture and then you see a monkey in a show making money for his handlers. Cane did the same thing for WSB. These people have put on a blind campaign for the polyester crowd to tune in for a reality show that is making them millions, and our government a mockery.
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
9:41 am
RB from Gwinnett – “Jay couldn’t bring himself to write anything good about Newt even if he found the cure for cancer.”
Okay, if Newt finds a cure for cancer, I’ll stop making fun of him.
ByteMe - popularity goon
March 29th, 2012
9:41 am
Jay couldn’t bring himself to write anything good about Newt even if he found the cure for cancer.
And RB once again can’t bring himself to write anything good about Newt either except to point out that he didn’t cure cancer.
ragnar danneskjold
March 29th, 2012
9:41 am
Federal Agencies and Ambassadorships are where political careers go to die. Newt Gingrich – Ambassador to Russia.
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
9:42 am
doggone,
hypocrisy like Clinton signing DOMA?
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
9:42 am
One of the great tragedies of Leroy was how he started out so solidly but then lost his way not long into his political career.
The young political candidate sought support from labor unions. He castigated corporations for “raping” the environment.
Local newspaper coverage from the time shows that Gingrich was endorsed in 1976 by the state affiliate of the National Education Association and, his former supporters say, the Communications Workers of America.
At times, Gingrich made statements that might be cheered today by Occupy Wall Street protesters. For example, he denounced the corporate profits accrued by oil companies and said the companies needed to open their records for inspection.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gingrich-once-ran-gop-moderate-early-career
Obviously, something went, very, very, very wrong with him…
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
9:42 am
ragnar – “Newt Gingrich – Ambassador to Russia.”
I’m sure he’d love it, Russia has some pretty hot women!
ByteMe - popularity goon
March 29th, 2012
9:43 am
This makes so little sense until you add FOX to the picture and then you see a monkey in a show making money for his handlers
It only works in low-turnout or close elections. Otherwise, the tabloid journalists don’t affect anything except blood pressure.
zeke
March 29th, 2012
9:43 am
Say what you will, he is one of the sharpest minds when it come to the Constitution and the farce of U.S. foreign policy!! $2.50 gas is not an illusion, in fact, in the last months of the W. administration gas was actually in the $ 1.80 range!!!!
Becky
March 29th, 2012
9:44 am
Jamvet-I think we all know that money corrupted Newt.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
9:45 am
zeke-really? really?
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
9:45 am
Arguably, Newt was a cancer on American politics…
ragnar danneskjold
March 29th, 2012
9:46 am
Dear Butch @ 9:42, good morning, I don’t know – when I think of Russian women, I think of Wendy’s youtube.com/watch?v=DWAKtYGJZSM&search=wendys%20%20commercial
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
9:46 am
I think one of the great problems we have in the Republican Party is that we don’t encourage you to be nasty.
Newt Gingrich
No one has contributed more to the dysfunctional environment of today’s politics.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
9:47 am
“hypocrisy like Clinton signing DOMA”
Clinton was gay? Who knew?!
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
9:48 am
Like the gulf oil spill, newt’s toxic vitriole will linger under the surface causing continued damage for decades.
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
9:49 am
no, hypocrisy like a serial philanderer defending marriage.
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
9:49 am
I’m not a supporter of Gingrich but you can’t take away his accomplishments. As it appears that Romney is headed to the Republican nomination, Gingrich could help him considerably in the campaign if he chooses to do so. It should be interesting to see if he does.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
9:49 am
Becky, likely so. But the incredible thing to me, is how those young Republicans, who had so much promise, turned so badly so quickly.
Now, in their self-created post-Bush apocalypse, they are so far removed from the reasoned and reasonable center, one cannot see them without the Hubble telescope…
Paul
March 29th, 2012
9:49 am
Jay
I like to start off the day with good news. Thanks!
“the fatal flaw that ensured that Gingrich would never satisfy the ambition that burned within him was his basic lack of respect for other people.”
Karma.
You reap what you sow.
What goes around comes around.
The concept’s explained lots of ways in lots of folk sayings, philosophies and religions. And they’re all true.
JamVet 9:22
That had a certain poetic appeal.
Or maybe it’s like describing a train wreck.
Both work.
Jay
March 29th, 2012
9:50 am
$2.50 gas is not an illusion, in fact, in the last months of the W. administration gas was actually in the $ 1.80 range!!!!
Of course, in the last months of the W. administration the stock market was in the process of losing more than half its value and the global economic structure looked like it might collapse into a heap. Yeah, let’s go back to that, shall we?
Becky
March 29th, 2012
9:51 am
I would be interested in reading a list of Newt’s accomplishments Recon. Please continue.
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
9:51 am
zeke -” in the last months of the W. administration gas was actually in the $ 1.80 range!!!!”
Hey zeke, this also was in the last months of the W. administration:
The worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. And like the Great Depression, the 2008 version began in the United States, but soon spread around the world.
With the bankruptcy of the large investment bank Lehman Brothers. More banks failed. World stock markets plunged. Panic selling ensued. Companies collapsed or laid off workers — more than 500,000 jobs were lost in the United States in November alone.
The former chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan, put the unfolding drama into perspective in September when he called it a “once-in-a-century type of financial crisis.”
Iceland’s banking system collapsed in October, forcing it to ask for help from the International Monetary Fund.
The collapse of the U.S. auto industry, one of the backbones of American industry.
In the United States alone, it’s estimated that the government’s bailout effort has cost $8.5 trillion…and counting.
Thanks for highlighting the $1.80 a gallon though.
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
9:51 am
Recon,
I don’t think Newt will help Romney..his feelings are too hurt.
Lynn
March 29th, 2012
9:52 am
Newt Gingrich is an intellectual lightweight. He’s a great talker, and this ability to spew ideas rapidly and with great confidence manages to persuade a lot of people that Newt is actually smart. In reality, his ideas rarely hold up when you examine them closely. In truth, Newt is a Narcissist — charming and manipulative, bright enough to get people to support him but too nasty to keep them around for long. He lacks empathy, and he truly believes he’s the brightest — and the most important — person in the room.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
9:52 am
$1.80/gallon gas? Sign me up?
What?!
We have to have another $3,000,000,000,000.00 corporate-foisted economic implosion that was second only to the Great Depression to cause that?
Oh! Never mind…
Fetus on a stick
March 29th, 2012
9:52 am
His presidential run yes, career, no.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
9:52 am
“no, hypocrisy like a serial philanderer defending marriage”
Since DOMA has nothing to do with philandering you’re point falls just a tad (try a LOT) short
mm
March 29th, 2012
9:54 am
It takes weak minded people to fall for these charlitans. And based on the GA primary results, GA is full of them.
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
9:54 am
Wow. Republicans are really sharp. They know that Newt can give them $2.50 per gallon gas, just like Bush did.
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
9:54 am
Becky, Jay did a good job of describing them.
massachusetts refugee thug
March 29th, 2012
9:55 am
wouldn’t newt have to shake up his own etch-a-sketch to support romney?
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
9:55 am
JamVet – “We have to have another $3,000,000,000,000.00 corporate-foisted economic implosion that was second only to the Great Depression to cause that?”
Yes, but on the upside, we can enjoy driving our SUVs again. World economic collapse is a small price to pay for the unbridled joy of tooling around in a brand new Hummer.
Paul
March 29th, 2012
9:56 am
RB
“Jay couldn’t bring himself to write anything good about Newt even if he found the cure for cancer. Nothing but hatred spewed on the man from that keyboard week after week after week. ”
Jay gave him credit for leading the Republican revolution of ‘94.
What else you got to credit Newt with?
timbo
March 29th, 2012
9:56 am
I just read the opinion piece and inserted Obama’s name for Newt. For instance;
I’m sorry: “Obama Care” is not an idea, it is an ill-disguised pander inconsistent with reality. Obama’s inability to distinguish between an idea and a pander betrays a lot about how he thinks, and about why he has fallen so short of his dreams.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
9:56 am
It is not JUST the left or JUST the right that calls people names. That does not, however, make both sides equivalent across the board. It just so happens the side of truth is on the left side regarding most arguments in the past 4 or so years.
Let’s be clear – if you base your entire platform, or most of it, on having to LIE in order to get your way, that’s built on a house of cards. It will come down eventually, no matter how skilled you are at stacking those cards. Let’s also be clear, I’m talking about THE RIGHT. If you want to make such a claim about the left, show me your evidence and I’ll show you mean.
Let’s start with “Who started the contraception debate?” For my evidence, I present first, Rick Santorum on October 2011. When did Stephanopholus (sic) ask his “famous” question?
Let’s then move on to the “most Americans don’t want the health care law” argument, for which I present this as evidence that they actually do: http://m.static.newsvine.com/servista/imagesizer?file=steve-benen7E111609-608B-74FC-7167-F305002B5963.jpg&width=600
Becky
March 29th, 2012
9:57 am
Recon-I reread Jay’s piece above and still don’t see a list of accomplishments. Please tell me more or admit there aren’t any. k thanks.
too little time
March 29th, 2012
9:58 am
His run for Prez was DOA. It would be like Nancy Pelosi running for Prez. A Speaker of the House (or head of the Senate, for that matter) is a magnet for hate and discontent. If you do your job right, you engender enemies on both sides of he aisle. It is why the mayor of large cities rarely move into state or national politics. You make deals and twist arms that, while successful in that position, leaves you unelectable for higher office.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
9:59 am
Actually Leroy was just Joe Bidening off of Michele B with that $2.50 a gallon thing.
I think she was talking about witch hazel though…
Foghorn Dawghorn
March 29th, 2012
10:00 am
timbo, you are oh so clever, aren’t you?
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
10:00 am
“To give the man his due, Gingrich has fashioned a political career that by most standards would be considered a huge success. He truly did shock the political world when he led a Republican revolution in 1994 that ended the Democrats’ death grip on the House of Representatives. He was enormously gifted, possessed with a clever mind and one of the sharpest tongues in American political history. And his strong sense of personal destiny insulated him against doubts that might have haunted other men.”
There you go Becky
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
10:01 am
$2.50 gas is not an illusion, in fact, in the last months of the W. administration gas was actually in the $ 1.80 range!!!!
That 1.80 gas had no more significance than the manager’s special on the questionable looking piece of beef that has reached it’s expiration date. It merely reflects the economic collapse of the time.
timbo
March 29th, 2012
10:01 am
Foghorn-
Thank you.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:01 am
Newton LEEEROOOOOOOOYYYYYY Gingiriiiiiiiich…..
Georgia on my mind...
March 29th, 2012
10:01 am
…..Newt it’s time to get on the train and come back home….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2gKR422nOQ
curious
March 29th, 2012
10:01 am
Don’t worry about Newt and his future; he has 2 jobs lined up.
1- Pope
2- Fox news faith and defense of marriage advisor.
As smart as Newt is, he’ll never have a problem handling the two.
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
10:02 am
doggone,
okay Doggone, your philanderer of choice is not a hypocrite…Despite signing a law the “defends” “family values” by defining what marriage is.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
10:02 am
Recon-that is not a list of accomplishments. Try again or admit you are wrong.
Paul
March 29th, 2012
10:02 am
timbo
“I just read the opinion piece and inserted Obama’s name for Newt. ”
You did?? Really?? That’s just so…. astounding!!!!!
Excuse me while I drop off the blog for a while to absorb the implications of such an unparalleled insight…..
hryder
March 29th, 2012
10:03 am
Yes, Newt has become irrelevant. This does not alter the given reason that his ideas are not close to reality. This not being cognizant with reality is also true of Obama. Why the lack of most of the political news media seemingly being incapable of reporting this lack? Could this be bias? It is time to VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBENT ELECTED OFFICE HOLDERS IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS!
Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
March 29th, 2012
10:03 am
Who among you will help pay off Newtie’s debt? Pony up, Cons.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:03 am
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/03/gop_delegate_race_an_animation_of_the_2012_republican_nomination_fight_as_a_horse_race_.html
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
10:04 am
Poor Newt, he loved his country so much, that bad things happened to him.
And as such, is the very poster boy for the Party of No Personal Responsibility…
Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
March 29th, 2012
10:04 am
Newt 2012 Book Tour begins in 3…2…1…
Mick
March 29th, 2012
10:04 am
rb
**Nothing but hatred spewed on the man from that keyboard week after week after week.**
That’s pretty funny coming from someone like you! What did dandy don used to say? Turn out the lights, the party’s over newtster, don’t let the door hit you on the way out…
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
10:04 am
“Despite signing a law the “defends” “family values” by defining what marriage is”
Nope, it doesn’t do that either. I merely restricts marriage. It has nothing to do with family values.
Paul
March 29th, 2012
10:05 am
Question is, what will Newt come up with next to attempt to show he has some credibility? He’s been thru gas prices, hauling judges before Congress, moon bases and a few other winners. The next one ought to be quite dazzling.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
10:05 am
$1.80 gas
But, but, but I heard that GWB talked the price down……… He spoke from on high and the price at the pumps automatically rolled back
It was reminiscent of Moses parting the Red Sea or something like that
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
10:05 am
Becky, I think you may be so blinded by such a deep contempt for this man that anything that’s said complimentary about him you refuse to accept.
ZoSo
March 29th, 2012
10:06 am
Adam @ 9;56
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html
seems clear to me
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:06 am
oops, long link FTL
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
10:06 am
Newt could sell off Callista’s Tiffany collection to fund his campaign. She wouldn’t mind.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
10:06 am
“Newt 2012 Book Tour begins in 3…2…1″
Don’t you mean continues?
Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
March 29th, 2012
10:06 am
No Moon Base?
aighahahahahahaha!………wincing…..thrashing of nails…….
Say it ain’t so!!!!!
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:07 am
ZoSo: That’s because you are looking only at the surface. Why don’t you take a look at the graph you obviously did not look at?
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
10:08 am
ah yes, it restricts marriage to one man…one woman…and one intern.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
10:08 am
“Poor Newt, he loved his country so much, that bad things happened to him.”
What did Newt say
“There’s no question at times of my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked far too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate. ”
Yeah boy………… Big talk, little walk
ZoSo
March 29th, 2012
10:09 am
I did look at it Adam. Look at the first column.
There are parts of the healthcare bill that I hope are kept. The indivudual mandate is not one of them.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
10:10 am
I’m sorry: “$2.50-a-gallon gas” is not an idea
No need to apologize. Enjoy this; you’ve earned it, Jay.
Georgia’s Dumb and Dumber dual candidates of dipstickery
Somewhere, William Safire is smiling.
Don't Tread
March 29th, 2012
10:11 am
“The contempt that he showered upon opponents in public life was reflected in his private life as well”
Never met the guy, but that’s also the vibe I get – he was probably not fun to be around. I get the same vibe from Obama, despite his attempts at polish and sugarcoating. Pelosi, Reid, Romney, Santorum, both Bushes and a host of others come to mind as well. Is it environmental, or is it that people with this pre-existing mindset naturally gravitate to politics?
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
10:11 am
“ah yes, it restricts marriage to one man…one woman…and one intern”
Gonna be a LOT of joyful people around when they find out that a 3 way is embodied in that law!
gm
March 29th, 2012
10:12 am
But wait, what does this say about the idiots of the conservative party in Georgia who voted for him? Why do the rest of the USA conservatives know something that the idiots of Georgia dont?
Hey Newt, how did all those racial comments you made work for you? or the $2.50 gallon work, Deal and Sonny backed this loser and you wonder why no one takes Georgia conservative serious.
Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
March 29th, 2012
10:12 am
“There’s no question at times of my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked far too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate.
Example Numero Uno of the Party of No Responsibility.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
10:12 am
Don’t Tread @ 10:11
You might be on to something
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
10:14 am
Oh, and since someone needs to be a scold, I’ll do it…
[Newt] got a lot farther than [Jay] ever did (or could have).
Let’s see—Jay has a wife and family who, I’m gonna stick my neck out here, love him and can trust him. He has colleagues who admire his work, and his work ethic.
That puts him miles ahead of that disgusting, lying little has-been whose fetid water you’re carrying, Mister “I’m-such-a-big-deal-of-a-Christian-it-hurts!”
Oscar
March 29th, 2012
10:14 am
I guess his downfall started when Clinton made him get off the back door of that plane. Never recovered from the public’s reaction to his response to that.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:14 am
ZoSo: JUST looking at the first column is intellectually dishonest. But thank you for at least pretending to make an attempt to see my point.
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 29th, 2012
10:14 am
Paul
March 29th, 2012
10:05 am
He will join the Mormon Church and talk up polygamy…it’s in his blood…
man behind the curtain
March 29th, 2012
10:15 am
“I just loved a’marryin’, I mean America so much…..that I did bad things to gain her attention and show her my love.”
Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
March 29th, 2012
10:15 am
Jay, I hope you publish this in the AJC. Good work.
timbo
March 29th, 2012
10:15 am
ZoSo,
What are you doing just looking ‘at the surface’? You must look at the graphs, they tell the story. Don’t look at just numbers. Only graphs can tell the story. And pie charts, those are really colorful. I myself like the 3D graphs where they do shading to make it look like they are coming right off the paper. And they have to be in color. Black and white pie charts don’t tell the whole story. And PowerPoint presentation pie charts! Now those really tell you the story.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
10:15 am
Since he loves to hear himself talk so much about his “BIG IDEAS”
Those of American Indian descent probably call him “Babbling Bear: the one with many fork tongues that change with the season”
Wade Hampton
March 29th, 2012
10:15 am
Not unlike ColdPlay, Collective Soul, proggies, and/or Bill and Shillery Clinton…………….you will NEVER stop seeing and listening to Moonshoot Newt.
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That eighth admendment thing is ignored like all of the rest of them.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:16 am
Doggone: I dunno, having a 3 way marriage built into law might cause the 3rd wheel to want more rights. We wouldn’t want that
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2012
10:16 am
Students of history know to beware of those who have a “sense of personal destiny” and use politics as their vehicle. History is filled with characters like this who fulfill their destiny at the brutal expense of the people. George W. Bush had such a sense of personal destiny that he actually thought God wanted him to be President. We paid a huge price for his success, most painfully in blood and treasure fighting his useless wars. We are still paying. Consider it a blessing Gingrich apparently won’t succeed and hope Obama and Romney don’t have such feelings.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:17 am
And btw, here’s the entire poll that graph is based on, with NUMBERS to look at! GASP!
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/03/27/us/03272012_polling_doc.html
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
10:17 am
This has been missed by most yesterday:
On Wednesday, Reps. Jim Cooper and Steve LaTourette managed to put Simpson-Bowles to a vote before the House of Representatives. It didn’t just fail. It got crushed. The final tally was 382-38. Twenty-two of the supporters were Democrats, while 16 were Republicans. But overall, the rejection was overwhelming, and overwhelmingly bipartisan.
Wade Hampton
March 29th, 2012
10:17 am
And @ 10:01———–Newt AIN’T from Georgia.
.
He’s a dang yank.
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
10:18 am
“or is it that people with this pre-existing mindset naturally gravitate to politics?”
Ding ding! Great point! It’s called egotism. Afterall, the ones who run for president think they can be “leader of the free world”.
Oscar
March 29th, 2012
10:20 am
Wade Hampton
March 29th, 2012
10:17 am
And @ 10:01———–Newt AIN’T from Georgia.
.
He’s a dang yank.
_______
Last I heard he had lived in Virginia the last few years. Why do they keep saying he is from Georgia. Thought we were done with him years ago.
allen981
March 29th, 2012
10:21 am
I covered Newt as a local reporter in his early campaigns. He was arrogant and dismissive then, and despite his intellect and ideas, I personally couldn’t stand him. He would make you think he was your best friend, then ignore and insult you two weeks later.
His persistence was his greatest strength, and once elected, he knew how to pull the levers correctly to stay elected.
It is a blessing that he’s done, because had he, by some miracle, been the Republican nominee, it would have ensured Obama’s reelection.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:21 am
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/03/27/us/03272012_polling_doc.html
And with this poll, those who would argue that a majority of Americans are against the whole law and want it struck down are speechless, and those that say a majority are against the mandate are correct – showing that people want all of the benefits of the health care law without having enough “personal responsibility” to pay for any of it.
ZoSo
March 29th, 2012
10:21 am
Adam,
Intellectually honest? Look at the link I sent where the vast majority of the polls taken are opposed. Your statement: “Let’s then move on to the “most Americans don’t want the health care law”. Now who’s being intellectually dishonest? We all know something needs to be done, but this bill is not it as is demonstrated by these poll numbers.
too little time
March 29th, 2012
10:23 am
Adam wrote: Let’s be clear – if you base your entire platform, or most of it, on having to LIE in order to get your way, that’s built on a house of cards. It will come down eventually, no matter how skilled you are at stacking those cards. Let’s also be clear, I’m talking about THE RIGHT.
One word: “Obamacare” .
A 2700 page piece of legislation that nobody read , funded by an unconstitutional mandate with a projected budget based on accounting gimmicks, passed in the middle of the night via a “pass and deem” partisan vote that takes control of 15% of the economy. Pushed by a President who declared that this would save money.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:23 am
And btw, that poll has historical numbers also, going back to just after passage of the bill. So if you’re about to say “But that was just this week/today/recent/whatever,” you’ve just been caught NOT READING THE POLL and making up your opinion based on a preconceived notion.
Facts and figures. Ignore them. Stay ignorant, my friends.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:26 am
ZoSo: As demonstrated by the numbers, this bill is in FACT the way to go. People don’t want “ObamaCare” by the majority, and don’t want “the mandate” by a majority (meaning they don’t want to have to pay for it). Everything else they want, by much larger majorities. “We all agree something has to be done” is incorrect, because I do not agree with that statement since something has ALREADY been done, and your representatives want to take it apart and not even bother replacing it.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
10:26 am
Zoso
Does most Americans not wanting the overall law as it stands in itself make the law illegal?
The SCJs are not looking at polls but legality? yes they could strike it down and I think there is a high probability that at least the mandate will be stuck down. I promise no matter how they decide, there will be no wording that deals with polls one way or the other
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:27 am
A … piece of legislation that nobody read
Bullsh*t. Prove it.
funded by an unconstitutional mandate
Bullsh*t. Prove it.
with a projected budget based on accounting gimmicks
Bullsh*t. Prove it.
ZoSo
March 29th, 2012
10:28 am
Adam, you said that the right was lying about this, How is this a lie when the facts and figures prove you wrong? People want some form of healthcare reform, they just don’t want this particular bill.
Common Sense isn't very Common
March 29th, 2012
10:28 am
Doggone/GA@
10:11 am
Gonna be a LOT of joyful people around when they find out that a 3 way is embodied in that law!
——————————————-
Are you one of the joyful?
Couldn’t resist LOL
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
10:31 am
On Wednesday, Reps. Jim Cooper and Steve LaTourette managed to put Simpson-Bowles to a vote before the House of Representatives. It didn’t just fail. It got crushed.
I know they weren’t specifically voting “no” to servile, corporate skank-ho’ –dom, but I’ll take it.
A 2700 page piece of legislation that nobody read
The proud anti-intellectualism, the “Ah ain’t botherin’ with nothin’ that can’t be ‘splained on the TeeVee in seven seconds!” continues apace I see.
timbo
March 29th, 2012
10:31 am
Adam-
Most Americans are against ObamaCare. Spin it anyway you like by posting graphs, charts, whatever you want. Reputable news sources have been reporting this for 2 years now. SCOTUS is going to throw it out, so all your whining is for nothing. We can’t afford it, it is unconstitutional, and the majority of folks don’t want it.
getalife
March 29th, 2012
10:32 am
The newt has always been a joke and Americans just proved it.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:32 am
ZoSo: It’s a lie that Americans don’t want the health care law. Their responses to the provisions in it prove that they DO WANT THE LAW. How can I make this more clear to you? It’s like saying you don’t like peas, UNLESS someone gives them to you for free. Then they’re yummy.
What people don’t like is the concept of a law that is a straw man that a majority have bought into. What has happened here is people who say they don’t want the law do not realize what is actually in it, they just think there’s a ton of stuff in it that’s BAD BAD BAD HULK SMASH.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
10:33 am
Spin it anyway you like by posting graphs, charts, whatever you want.
oh, that won’t be necessary. Obama will be out on the stump informing voters that his Gooper opponents are working tirelessly to deny you and yours with insurance coverage, and I suspect it won’t be a real tough case to make.
ZoSo
March 29th, 2012
10:33 am
they both suck
I’m not sure what your point is. Of course they shouldn’t be looking at polls. The individual mandate sets a very bad precedent if it passes.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:34 am
stands: Pay no attention to the man on the ignore list
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
10:34 am
“Are you one of the joyful”
I’ll never tell!
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
10:35 am
“they just don’t want this particular bill”
Yep, a LOT of us wanted single payer
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 29th, 2012
10:35 am
I dunno, the individual mandate sounds fair to me. It’s no more or no less than like paying for the right to drive. Or mandatory car insurance. Everybody pays in and no one can scam the system. I don’t see the push back at all…
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
10:36 am
Zoso
My point is that if for some reason the SC does not strike down the law, it could be an albatross around the Democrats neck at election time, but those polls will have not meant much……… because it will be the law
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:37 am
ZoSo: The individual mandate sets a very bad precedent if it passes.
Oh really? You mean like when the SCOTUS decided in both Wickard v. Filburn and United States v. Lopez that if you pull yourself out of the market, that affects interstate commerce, and therefore your personal growing of both wheat and marijuana can be regulated?
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
10:37 am
It’s no more or no less than like paying for the right to drive. Or mandatory car insurance.
but, but, but, only something like 90% of all Americans of working age own a car so that totally doesn’t count!
TM
March 29th, 2012
10:37 am
“I’m sorry: “$2.50-a-gallon gas” is not an idea, it is an ill-disguised pander inconsistent with reality”
Kinda like that “Hope and Change” idea?
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 29th, 2012
10:37 am
About the single payer thing…I posted this yesterday…one can hope, I guess…
http://www.thenation.com/blog/167071/if-mandate-fails-single-payer-awaits
USMC
March 29th, 2012
10:37 am
“The Gingrich political career, now at an end”–JAY BOOKMAN
What a stupid statement laced with HATE and ENVY….
Come on Jay, don’t let your petty little ego get in the way.
Quit envying what other people have.
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
10:37 am
Republicans just want to be left in peace to die in a cardboard box, free from mandate or any other telling them what to do. Personally I have no problem with that if they would just make arrangements in advance (and paid for from their own hard earned money) for Waste Management to come scoop them up before they start stinking up the place even worse. After all, the least a Republican could do is be considerate of others freedoms to smell clean air.
ZoSo
March 29th, 2012
10:37 am
Adam,
And how can I make this more clear to you? In it’s present form, the American people do not want this bill. Your statement was “the bill”, not a bill. Like I said, there are parts I like and I would be more than willing to pay more if it meant my daughter could stay on my insurance until she is 26. I would be willing to pay more fore covering pre-existing conditions.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:38 am
ZoSo: In other words, the precedent of regulating people and things who are not “in the market” is already there.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
10:38 am
Since we are speaking of Newt…… he is on record as of 2009 backing a mandate……. Heritage foundation was pushing it as far back as 20 yrs ago
Things changed when it was pushed by Obama and the Democrats……
Newt went on to say…. uh, well… us I really meant state mandates………
But come June we will know what the SC says and if there is a strike down
I will want to know what the replace is in “repeal and replace”
mm
March 29th, 2012
10:38 am
“Adam, you said that the right was lying about this, How is this a lie when the facts and figures prove you wrong? People want some form of healthcare reform, they just don’t want this particular bill.”
If you righties think the repubs are going to do anything to improve healthcare in this country, I have a superbowl ready football team to sell ya. All they care about is the insurance companies profits. Actually, all they care about are companies, period. They don’t care about individuals. Wake up.
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
10:39 am
“than like paying for the right to drive.”
Driving is a privilege…other than that, your comment actually has no other legitimate point.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:39 am
ZoSo: So if you would keep parts of the bill, would you agree that your representatives should look at ways to fix the problems that are in it, rather than repealing the entire thing?
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 29th, 2012
10:39 am
TM
March 29th, 2012
10:37 am
Nope. $2.50 gas is a pipe dream, but “hope and change” was doable…if everybody worked for the same purpose of making America better, but those pesky Republicans…they just don’t play well with others…
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2012
10:40 am
The black community is still demanding justice for Trayvon. For some reason, they haven’t said a word about justice for Irvin Jefferson. I wonder why that is?
Don Abernethy
March 29th, 2012
10:41 am
Gingrich’s political career may be ending but so is Obama’s.
mm
March 29th, 2012
10:42 am
So have you righties finally figured out that the repubs were not looking out for your best interest? They were merely trying to make Obama look bad.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
10:42 am
Zoso
Atlanta’s largest private employer which is just south of downtown is already offering their employees the option of keeping their children on until 26……
I know two very conservatives individuals who work there, they can’t stand Obama or Obamacare, but couldn’t sign up fast enough to insure their kids…..
If it wasn’t for the law and the employer being ahead of the game….. their kids would be purchasing much more expensive insure and not have any
But they still can’t stand Obama… and that is their choice even though they can’t see the hypocrisy in that particular issue
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
10:43 am
They BOTH Suck – “I will want to know what the replace is in “repeal and replace”
We touched on this yesterday. The overwhelming opinion was that “nothing” was better than Obamacare. I’m waiting for the the GOP to come out fully with their plan of “Repeal and Do Nothing” slogans for the General Election.
ZoSo
March 29th, 2012
10:43 am
Adam,
If this passes, what else will the government require us to buy? What other mandate will be called for?
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
10:44 am
Driving is a privilege…
And it’s pretty much a requirement, in America, for those of working age. Yes, there are exceptions. (and the ACA recognizes some exceptions.)
Do try again.
Ley
March 29th, 2012
10:44 am
The fact that Newt won the GA GOP Primary just shows how far out of the political mainstream GA is right now. We have become irrelevant in the national political picture for both Repubs and Dems.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:44 am
Obamacare battles are is a lose-lose for the right: If the law gets struck down in whole or in part, it makes health insurance more expensive and repeals certain good provisions in the law. If the law remains, they lose because they spent all this time making the entire law all about Obama, handing him a win for the 2012 election.
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
10:45 am
“Do try again.”
okay, driving is a privilege.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:46 am
If this passes, what else will the government require us to buy? What other mandate will be called for?
Nothing and none, respectively.
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
10:46 am
ZoSo – “What other mandate will be called for?”
If I recall correctly it will be the right of Primae Noctis.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
10:47 am
“The black community is still demanding justice for Trayvon. For some reason, they haven’t said a word about justice for Irvin Jefferson. I wonder why that is”
Because Trayvon is a symbol of injustice – just as the unknown soldier is a symbol of all soldiers who died in battle and whose names are lost to history.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:47 am
okay, driving is a privilege.
So is voting.
Peadawg
March 29th, 2012
10:47 am
“Nothing and none, respectively.” – You got that crystal ball workin’ over there, I see. Good for you.
Obama is over
March 29th, 2012
10:47 am
Newt can be an effective strategist. However, he tends to turn the cannons on his own troops from time to time. If nothing else, he was an entertaining distraction, but now it’s time for him to get out of the way. I hope that he doesn’t devolve into a right wing Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson- simply looking for any opportunity to get in front of the camera to spew diatribes without doing any homework in a feeble attempt to remain relevant. I lived in New York during the Tawana Brawley incident and I hope that the Trayvon case doesn’t end up like that. Unfortunately, Al Sharpton sure is using some of the same rhetoric.
Peadawg
March 29th, 2012
10:48 am
“Nothing and none, respectively.” – Also, you trust daddy gov’t waaaay to much.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
10:48 am
Butch @ 10:43
That is my whole point…….. Many Republican Congressmen and Senators are on record stating that reform is need just not Obamacare….. “repeal and replace”….
Why aren’t their constituency demanding to know what “replace” means?
Like I stated yesterday….. They have no comprehensive plan. It was a slogan the entire time. Just as the Republicans and their constituency say that Obama and the Dems sell their voters a “bill of goods”…… they have done the same to theirs on this issue and most don’t even care that they were lied too
Oh well…….. if we were all the same it would be pretty damn boring
Mr. Snarky
March 29th, 2012
10:48 am
Newt who?
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:48 am
Peadawg: If you can show that because this passes, Congress will go hog wild on some crazy idea for a mandate, go for it. They have had that capability, reaffirmed by the SCOTUS, for over 70 years already.
ZoSo
March 29th, 2012
10:50 am
ZoSo: So if you would keep parts of the bill, would you agree that your representatives should look at ways to fix the problems that are in it, rather than repealing the entire thing?
First of all, they are not “my representatives”. The current republican party does not have a clear message on what they would do or how to fix it, and that is very frustrating. Politics suck. But you are absolutely right that they should work together to fix this. The funding is key of course. I saw some numbers recently that show how much we spend on the military as compared to the rest of the world. I believe in a strong national defense but it is way out of whack. that would be a good place to start.
Don't Tread
March 29th, 2012
10:50 am
I think we know why the Travelin’ Race-Baitin’ Pimpshow Featuring Al And Jesse hasn’t shown up to convict and sentence the security guards on the spot. Move along, nothing to see here, nobody’s rights violated, no “hoodie” protests, and the Black Panthers won’t be putting a bounty on their heads.
Guess it’s ok to let the DA and the grand jury sort this one out on their own.
Peadawg
March 29th, 2012
10:52 am
“If you can show that because this passes, Congress will go hog wild on some crazy idea for a mandate, go for it.”
Not possible seeing as I don’t have a crystal ball. I’d just rather not go down that road.
Hopefully the mandate is overturned.
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
10:52 am
Medicare/Medicaid for all. Republicans just need time to accept the new reality. But it will not be free. They must pay for coverage like the rest us instead of mooching off our generosity in the emergency rooms.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:52 am
ZoSo: But you are absolutely right that they should work together to fix this.
Putting ZoSo down as on board with the Obama plan to fix, not repeal, the law when the House was offering up their repeal bill.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:53 am
Peadawg: The mandate passing through the SCOTUS changes nothing. Congress already had the capability to regulate markets based on who was NOT participating already.
tireofit
March 29th, 2012
10:54 am
Republican’s have only one plan; tax cuts for the rich. You know who pays for those tax cuts don’t you?
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
10:54 am
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2012
10:40 am
The black community is still demanding justice for Trayvon. For some reason, they haven’t said a word about justice for Irvin Jefferson. I wonder why that is?
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Do you mean ERVIN Jefferson here in Atlanta? If so then that’s a simple minded question. The two people involved were ARRESTED.
ZoSo
March 29th, 2012
10:55 am
Adam @ 10:52
If that makes you feel good, put me down. Like I said, parts of it I like and they should be kept.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:56 am
ZoSo: Good, you’re not insanely hateful of Obama. You get a lot of credit in my book for that.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
10:57 am
“I hope that he doesn’t devolve into a right wing Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson- simply looking for any opportunity to get in front of the camera to spew diatribes without doing any homework in a feeble attempt to remain relevant”
Too late for THAT hope
Peadawg
March 29th, 2012
10:57 am
“If that makes you feel good, put me down. Like I said, parts of it I like and they should be kept.”
Put me down too.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
10:58 am
Zoso
You are on the books…………… Keep some of it and change other things……
And to be honest…… I’m no legal eagle by any means. I have no idea how the vote will come down.
I too do not think the ACA is the end all of end alls. It is a start but needs some tweaking and changes. We might agree on what or how far, but change is needed
Have a good day
gm
March 29th, 2012
10:59 am
Obama is over
At least Al is out in the streets with the people, when will the right scums of Limbaugh Hannity get out on the streets and put in work, oh I forgot they are to busy collecting millions spewing hate to low self esteem angery whites and would dare not rub elbows with the common man on the streets.
Mr. Snarky
March 29th, 2012
11:02 am
Newt wasn’t an idea man so much as a language man…the language of nastiness and incivility.
Good riddance.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
11:05 am
Recon-give up did you? No accomplishments at all, really? So sad, NOT!
curious
March 29th, 2012
11:07 am
Justice Scalia didn’t major in economics.
Hospitals have to treat everybody, even if they can’t/don’t pay (Federal mandate).
What do you think would happen if grocery stores had to provide broccoli (Federal mandate) to anyone who wanted it, even if they can’t/don’t pay? (I predict those of us that do pay would have to pay more to make up for those non-payers).
Same principle applies to any good or service. Eliminate the Federal Mandate to provide healthcare if you don’t have insurance or cash.
That would be an incentive to get insurance or would begin weeding out all those would be moochers.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
11:07 am
I too do not think the ACA is the end all of end alls. It is a start but needs some tweaking and changes. We might agree on what or how far, but change is needed
Sure. That’s why it’s called “legislation,” and not “amending the constitution” or suchlike. I don’t think anyone who supported the ACA ever imagined it would go untouched throughout its planned implementation; for all the tough talk surrounding any bill (remember the debt ceiling deal? how all those crazy cuts were just going to auto-magically kick in?), there’s always going to be tweaking and changes. Nobody’s such a genius that they know exactly how the best-conceived law is going to apply in the real world.
(Well, except maybe for The Guy Too Smart For Us Mere Mortals, aka the topic of Jay’s post this morning.)
Put me down too.
Peadawg, you ignorant slut!
(that work for you?)
gm
March 29th, 2012
11:07 am
Doggone/GA
Once black unarmed teens stop getting shot maybe Al and Jessie can retire, if AL and Jessie were not there this would have been another black kid shot and put on the shelf.
Now when will Rush and Hannity come out against the white guy that shot and killed a child and wounded congress women?
Cosby
March 29th, 2012
11:08 am
sould make you just giddy..the remark about Newt lacking respect for the people…gee Jay…you need to check Barry aka Obama, Harry, Nancy and any number of your loved ones who totally have a distain toward the people and feel they are to ignorant to do anything but take their one liners while they remain in supreme power. Time to start doing research my dear fellow…these people have no respect for anyone except themselves and POWER!!!!
Soothsayer
March 29th, 2012
11:08 am
I imagine all Gnute is gonna see of Callister now is ass and elbows. What worries me, though, is who’s gonna pay for her har appointments. Shore ain’t gonna be Gnute.
ZoSo
March 29th, 2012
11:09 am
Adam,
I did not vote for Obama but I certainly do not hate him. In a lot of ways I admire the man. Although I may not agree with his positions on everything, I do know that he inherited a collosal mess, and given the circumstances, he’s done about as well as anyone could. His handling of terrorism, of which I had great concerns, has been nothing short of stellar. And as a politician, he has at least tried to do what he said he would do, even though you might not everyone would agree with him completely. What I want to see in this country is to find some common ground to work from which is in short supply right now.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
11:10 am
Justice Scalia didn’t major in economics.
Apparently he’s also too preoccupied with tee times and “hunting” defenseless, caged “game” to be bothered reading comprehensive legislation to determine severability, as evidenced by his crap-fit yesterday.
Peadawg
March 29th, 2012
11:10 am
“Eliminate the Federal Mandate to provide healthcare if you don’t have insurance or cash.
That would be an incentive to get insurance or would begin weeding out all those would be moochers.”
Not a bad idea actually.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
11:12 am
I did not vote for Obama but I certainly do not hate him
For the record, I think that’s probably true of most who voted, or plan to vote, against him. I think the folks who actually live up to the bumper-sticker rhetoric that’s out there are a pretty modest minority.
Matti
March 29th, 2012
11:13 am
I can almost always find something good in any man, even a man with whom I disagree or would not care to be alone with for even one moment. But there is simply nothing about Mr. Gingrich that isn’t utterly and completely repugnant.
Soothsayer
March 29th, 2012
11:13 am
Gnute: goodbye and good riddance! Go back to your $1,000,000 a year “job” at Fannie and Freddie.
Oscar
March 29th, 2012
11:13 am
stands for decibels
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Surely the man was joking when he indicated he did not want to read the whole bill. If not he should be impeached for failure to fullfill the requirements of his office.
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2012
11:13 am
Fred – 10:54
They have both been released from jail. Neither has been charged with the killing. If Zimmerman gets arrested and released, will the black community be this quiet?
Becky
March 29th, 2012
11:15 am
An honest question. Can a SC be impeached? I know they are appointed for life but truly do not know. Which scholar can provide the true answer?
St Simons- island off the coast of New Somalia
March 29th, 2012
11:15 am
So, basically Newt’s now a joke.
And who did Jawja vote for?
And what does that make us?
See a pattern heah?
People used to look at Ga from the outside & go “ohhh-wow”
Now they just laugh. Thanks Georgia Republicans. Really. Helluva job
Oh, no I don’t believe Newt’s out this quietly. Not for one minute.
Newt only does things one way.
This flame-out is going to be epic, he’s goin all the way to the
con-vention, and its going to be Jerry Springer stuff. hehehee.
And its going to be as de-li-cious to watch as it is to listen to that
debacle happening on the AM radio right now, a twin
cringe-worthy trainwreck if you will.
Frank Luntz started this. He made Newt.
I laugh every time I hear “Ideas Man”
Newt’s whole trick, his whole game, is bypassing ideas for focus-polled
grunt words fed to him by Frank Luntz – tested on the undereducated
base they so carefully cultivate and manipulate. That’s their only “Idea.”
“Newt is a dumb person’s idea of what a smart person is”
-quote by some guy that deserves a Pulitzer
Oscar
March 29th, 2012
11:16 am
Hospitals have to treat everybody, even if they can’t/don’t pay (Federal mandate).
__________
That’s not in the bill. Only ER has to treat all patients.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
11:17 am
“Surely the man was joking when he indicated he did not want to read the whole bill. If not he should be impeached for failure to fullfill the requirements of his office”
Baloney. Most of a bill that size is “nuts and bolts” stuff that has nothing to do with whether it is or isn’t Constitutional. And that’s what judges have clerks for, to weed out the stuff that’s irrelevent to the case.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
11:17 am
And wiki is my friend! yes they can be impeached but it will never happen in my lifetime. Scalia should be the first to go.
Oscar
March 29th, 2012
11:17 am
Becky
March 29th, 2012
11:15 am
An honest question. Can a SC be impeached? I know they are appointed for life but truly do not know. Which scholar can provide the true answer?
________
They can be impeached. But not for not reading the text of a bill. I was stretching a little on that part. All federal judges can be impeached but the standard for impeaching them is pretty high.
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2012
11:19 am
Don’t Tread – 10:50
If that’s true then black community values, when it comes to the killing of unarmed young black men, are unbelievably skewed.
Jimmy62
March 29th, 2012
11:19 am
Newt tried, he did his best, and I do think he tried to do what he thought was best for the country at every step. I can’t say I’ll totally miss him, but I’m also not going to mock him and disrespect him… Assuming he can go quietly in to the night. But the longer he tries to hang on, the harder that will be.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
11:20 am
Oscar-agreed and Doggone you are correct their clerks will read and highlight the pertinent part we hope.
Oscar
March 29th, 2012
11:20 am
Doggone/GA
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I have read the bill. It’s not that hard. Lots of pages but not that many words on a page. And as you say, most of it has nothing to do with the issues at hand. Lots of language on administration and some on college loans.
Oscar
March 29th, 2012
11:21 am
Becky
March 29th, 2012
11:20 am
Oscar-agreed and Doggone you are correct their clerks will read and highlight the pertinent part we hope.
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I think the justices should at least skim or scan through it just to be familar with it and check on their clerks.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
11:22 am
Peadawg: Actually it’s a terrible idea. The reason that came about was because it was impossible to verify someone had insurance in many ER situations, such as the person being unconscious or unable to respond. In such a case, if the law did not say they have to treat anyway, then they would basically let that person die if they didn’t have their insurance information on them somewhere.
This law of requiring treatment regardless of ability to pay already affirms that we, as a country, accept emergency health care as a right.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
11:22 am
The conspiracy theorist lover in me has Newt, Ralph Reed, and Jack Abramhoff in talks about the next chapter.
Darwin
March 29th, 2012
11:23 am
Jay – Perfect analysis of this man. Nothing more to add other than to say he is the architect of the slash and burn politics that is destroying our country.
Soothsayer
March 29th, 2012
11:23 am
Saint Simons @ 11:15: Best post in years! IMHO. Thanx! You really nailed the essence of what the Fright-Wing is all about: manipulating the low-information rubes to their party.
“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons…who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.”
– Edward Bernays, Propaganda, 1928
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
11:24 am
Just to be clear, I heard Scalia’s lament mostly as a sop to his fan base, letting them know that he was aware of the “ACA is too danged long and complicated!” talking point and running with it a bit.
Yes, I do believe he is *that* petty.
Erwin's cat
March 29th, 2012
11:24 am
I think the whole op-ed could be summarized as “Jay and most of the left really really doesn’t like Newt”
jay parrot
March 29th, 2012
11:24 am
Jay,
When you speak of flitting and shiny objects … i thought you were speaking about a Dem . LOL
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
11:25 am
“I’m sorry: “$2.50-a-gallon gas” is not an idea, it is an ill-disguised pander inconsistent with reality.”-Jay
This despite the fact that gas was $1.81 a gallon just over 3 years ago. I think Jay is the one a little distorted from the economic reality of just 3 years ago. Such is logic in the bizarro world of the far left.
Newt Was Living In the 51st State (State of Denial)
March 29th, 2012
11:25 am
Newt and his bleach blonde wife need to hit the road.
Now all they are doing is cashing in BIG TIME.
What a couple of LOSERS.
Newt needs to find a job as a JANITOR.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
11:27 am
Who is going to pay the insurance premiums or “less fortunate” are unwilling to forego cable and iPhones for when they are REQUIRED to have a policy?
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
11:28 am
I can see why some here are anxious to distance themselves form these dual dorks and yes, technically Leroy was not from Georgia and George was not from Texas.
Just tell that to the nitwits from those two states that kept electing them for years on end so that they could work their lunacy on a massive scale…
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
March 29th, 2012
11:29 am
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 29th, 2012
10:35 am
I dunno, the individual mandate sounds fair to me. It’s no more or no less than like paying for the right to drive. Or mandatory car insurance. Everybody pays in and no one can scam the system. I don’t see the push back at all…
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So….if you don’t drive or own a car, you STILL are required to buy car insurance?
I didn’t know that.
My MIL didn’t drive and has never had car insurance. Was she in violation of any law?
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
11:30 am
i thought you were speaking about a Dem
Meat, you must be a big hit in the third grade…
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
11:30 am
I wonder what Newt did to Jay that made Jay disdain him so. There is no question that Newt is easily Jay’s most disliked person. Did he disrespect Jay as a journalist? What happened?
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
11:30 am
Becky, I think you’re being a little juvenile on this subject, so I will discontinue.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
11:32 am
Recon-no I just called your bluff. Don’t make declarations you can’t prove.
Peadawg
March 29th, 2012
11:32 am
““ACA is too danged long and complicated!” talking point and running with it a bit.”
I don’t see how truth can be a talking point.
But poutrage away, stands, if it makes you feel better.
CHEVY runs deep!!!
March 29th, 2012
11:33 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kH_EZF0XqM&ob=av2e
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
11:35 am
“ACA is too danged long and complicated!” talking point and running with it a bit.
Perhaps stands for silliness can find just one Democrat Congressman or senator who has actually read the 2700 page bill and who can simplify it to the rest of us.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
11:35 am
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2012
11:13 am
Fred – 10:54
They have both been released from jail. Neither has been charged with the killing. If Zimmerman gets arrested and released, will the black community be this quiet?
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We’ll never know. He was question and released without ever being charged with anything.
The two are separate cases. You vain attempt to make them equal is an epic failure. Only a whacked out Rushbot would try to make that case or believe in it’s validity. Why are you?
Adam
March 29th, 2012
11:36 am
Peadawg: A Justice of the Supreme Court shouldn’t be that concerned with whether or not a law is “too long and complicated.” If he really is concerned with that, and he can’t make heads or tails of the law, he shouldn’t be on the bench.
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
11:39 am
Oh No! President Obama must hurry and promise the Republicans $1.80 per gallon gas just like Bush gave it to them — jobless.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
11:40 am
PD, I don’t really think it is “poutrage” to complain that a Supreme Court Justice is whining about being unable to read the bill he’s being asked to rule on. Particularly after having heard countless times that the ACA was somehow a Bad Thing because it, by necessity, covers a lot of stuff and hence does run rather long.
(I also don’t think you’re an ignorant slut. That was a joke.)
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
11:41 am
Perhaps stands for silliness can find just one Democrat Congressman or senator who has actually read the 2700 page bill
Do I have them pinky-swear that they did, or is a polygraph in order?
timbo
March 29th, 2012
11:42 am
Some liberal as*hat has decided that he wants to be cute and use my name in posts on this leftist trash blog. I am gone.
Kiss Obama’s as* now while you still have a chance. In a few months he will be back in Chicago running another ACORN office.
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2012
11:42 am
Doggone/GA – 10:47
Try telling that to Ervin Jefferson’s parents.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
11:43 am
I think Calista should write a book, a tell all expose to keep the money train rolling.
Jay
March 29th, 2012
11:45 am
Timbo, those false posts have been pulled down and the person who posted them has been banned.
If the namejacker wishes to seek reinstatement under another name, he or she should contact me at jbookman@ajc.com and promise never to repeat such behavior.
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
March 29th, 2012
11:47 am
Another namejacker busted! Good.
Beverly Fraud
March 29th, 2012
11:47 am
He’s Newt-TASTIC!
Is that enough to revive his campaign?
(Crickets chirping)
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
11:48 am
Jay, why don’t you share the posters usual name for us like you do when it’s a conservative?
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 29th, 2012
11:48 am
Timbo…
Just to let you know…It wasn’t me…I like to spew “leftist trash” in my own name, thank you very much!
stands for decibels, who never namejacks
March 29th, 2012
11:50 am
why don’t you share the posters usual name for us like you do when it’s a conservative?
RB, do you want your blankie after you finish your juice box?
Soothsayer
March 29th, 2012
11:52 am
Here’s one where Earl gets it in tune “on the fly!” You can really see the “three-finger roll” which he perfected.
Jym Allyn
March 29th, 2012
11:53 am
Newt reminds me of SouthPark’s Cartman would be like if he physically grew up, although the resemblance of Cartman to Carl Rove is unnerving.
Nice Guy
March 29th, 2012
11:53 am
Well, Jay, I think we all know who is collectively breathing a sigh of releif…..that would be the Obama camp because they now know there is no chance that Obama would have to debate ‘ol Newt.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
11:53 am
A “liberal” namejacker gets yanked and still more cries about how “unfair” Jay is not to do X or Y. Oh the horror of having to post as a con. The disparate treatment. Why its almost as if you are second class citiznes
emz
March 29th, 2012
11:53 am
Not all of Georgia loves Newt!! Why did he even run??
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
11:54 am
I don’t care if all Republicans emulate me. Pay your dang taxes, you bunch of moochers.
Nice Guy
March 29th, 2012
11:54 am
Jay – “I’m sorry: “$2.50-a-gallon gas” is not an idea, it is an ill-disguised pander inconsistent with reality.”
Don’t be sorry, Jay. Obama has done the same thing with Obamacare.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
11:54 am
“Why did he even run??”
Check the number of times he had a book signing on his “campaign” stops.
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
11:54 am
“I’m sorry: “$2.50-a-gallon gas” is not an idea…”
Yes – just like that “Hope and Change” nonsense.
Nice Guy
March 29th, 2012
11:55 am
Jay – “To give the man his due,….”
This tells me Jay has conceeded that there is no more low hanging fruit on the Gingrich tree. Over the past several months, Jay has picked every last piece.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
11:56 am
Is it too late to get a picture of Newt? We can all pool our money and present it to Jay for his office. For his dart game.
Jay
March 29th, 2012
11:58 am
Poor RB.
I don’t know who the namejacker is. It’s not someone who has posted regularly here, which may explain why he or she thought namejacking would be tolerated.
It is not.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
11:59 am
Whether you like or dislike the Newtster he’s done and quite the bore to talk about regardless of political affiliation. Has been for a couple of months. Fresh sheets needed.
Paul
March 29th, 2012
12:00 pm
Erwin’s cat
“think the whole op-ed could be summarized as “Jay and most of the left really really doesn’t like Newt””
Given it’s the Republican primary, it appears most of the Right really doesn’t like Newt, also -
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
12:01 pm
It don’t matter none. Blog sheriff Bookman jacked the namejacker.
Nice Guy
March 29th, 2012
12:01 pm
Taxpayer – “I don’t care if all Republicans emulate me. Pay your dang taxes, you bunch of moochers.”
I see some things never change. Taxpayer is still a misguided soul.
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
12:02 pm
“Geez, Georgia really has a hard time picking winners. First the Confederacy, then Herman Cain and now Newt. Might want to re-think your position in the next election Georgia.”
(1) Joined the confederacy under democratic governors. Good college try on that one though.
(2) Please inform us when we picked Herman??? I was under the impression that his decision was a personal decision and not one made by public ballot
(3) No mention of Hank “Guam will sink” Johnson or Cynthia McKinney & her lovely dad or Vernon Jones who was found guilty of racial discrimintation or …????
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
12:02 pm
“Obamacare is an ill-disguised pander inconsistent with reality.”
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
12:02 pm
Stands, if you’re advocating treating people differently, could you also call Trayvons parents and tell them to stop whining too! Thanks.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 29th, 2012
12:03 pm
Well, it’s kinda sad we won’t have a moon colony to send the libruls to or $2.50 gas. But at least old Newt was full of ideas.
For example, I’m thinking about letting you all get your picture took with me. And I’ll only charge you $25—that’s a huge discount just because you’re my friends. Except for one blogger that has me and that poor guy named Helen Thomas on his hate list. It must be awful to get hung with a moniker like Helen Thomas and have to fight your way to school and back every day. That guy needs to be pitied, not hated.
So write and let me know if you’d like to have your mug and mine together for your wall or something.
And have a good Thursday everybody.
Nice Guy
March 29th, 2012
12:03 pm
Becky – “Is it too late to get a picture of Newt? We can all pool our money and present it to Jay for his office. For his dart game.”
This would usually be a lame attempt at humor, but I can actually picture Jay throwing darts at Newt’s picture while laughing uncontrollably.
St Simons - we're on Island time
March 29th, 2012
12:03 pm
see, das what Jet Blue get for not comin to de island, mon
Ennis
March 29th, 2012
12:04 pm
I know I’m getting into this kinda late. I said over and over the day that Barry was elected that the Republican Party should start to rally around Romney, and find a stratagey that would get him elected. All I have seen in the last 3 years is hate and discontent in the Republican Party. Newt, as a proffesor of history, knew that he couldn’t be elected. Sure he has done some good work, but he has left a trail of destruction also. Newt, Santorium and others have besmirched the Republican Party so much that the whole party is a laughingstock. I just wish Newt would think of his dignity and just quit. There is no shame in playing the game and losing.
zeke
March 29th, 2012
12:05 pm
what no pithy comments from td?
Paul
March 29th, 2012
12:06 pm
I’m still trying to figure out what it is with Republicans these days. One after the other, a new one entered the race, did the Miracle Grow thing, saw them go to the top of the polls, then wham! Back down to oblivion.
I really think it goes deeper than ‘they don’t like Mitt.” But I’m stuck on anything other than ‘deep-seated psychological problems’ to come up with a good explanation.
Soothsayer
March 29th, 2012
12:08 pm
Redneck: where do I sign up? Do you think we can “squeeze” the Missus in with us? Or will that cost extra?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 29th, 2012
12:10 pm
Do you think we can “squeeze” the Missus in with us? Or will that cost extra?
Well, Sooth, I would need the extra wide angle lens and large paper stock. No discount on that, I’m afraid.
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
12:11 pm
Scalia – has the internal fortitude to admit that he is too lazy to read the ACA; libs – bash him as sucking up to his fanbase
Pelosi – “let’s pass the ACA to see what is it” – the princess of the libs.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
12:12 pm
No mention of Hank “Guam will sink” Johnson or Cynthia McKinney
Can you goobs please make up your minds about Hank Johnson? a few years back he was apparently your personal lord and savior, and those in a position to crossed over in the primary to get him nominated over McKinney.
Now you’re all claiming he’s some kind of idiot because he used an “tipping point” analogy, that one time, that sounded a little weird out of context?
getalife
March 29th, 2012
12:13 pm
Paul,
They stand for big oil welfare when big oil is making record profits.
Does not pass the common sense test.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
12:13 pm
It’s great that Jay busts the name jackers, something that was lacking in Tucker’s blog when whe was here.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
12:14 pm
Stands, if you’re advocating treating people differently, could you also call Trayvons parents and tell them to stop whining too! Thanks
Certainly because parents of a DEAD child who was killed by another who has yet to be arrested and tried (in which he can present his defense) is the same thing.
There is the compassion and understanding we know from so many on the right.
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
12:14 pm
Maybe Newtie can “convert” to being a lib and run for governor in Georgia in 2014. He would be better than any of the rejects that would be nominated.
Atlanta Native
March 29th, 2012
12:16 pm
Why can’t the $2.50 gas proposal be implemented without him becoming president?
Contrarian
March 29th, 2012
12:16 pm
Erwin’ Cat – actually, if you want to reduce Jay’s post to a one-sentence summary, this would be more factually correct: Jay and most of the left and most of the right and most of the center really really don’t like Newt.
Dirty Dawg
March 29th, 2012
12:16 pm
Not that it wasn’t obvious already but we probably should thank Newt for the strategy of how to ‘brand’ Willard…Corporate Raider, Slash ‘N Burn Artist, The ‘Bain’ Of Existence (for tens, and perhaps hundreds, of thousands put out of work so Romney and his henchmen could make money…you see when all a person is to these folks is just an expense item on the ‘debit side’ of the ledger, it’s easy to say ‘you’re fired’ – but do you have to enjoy it so much?)
Bottom line for Newt is that he’ll attempt to stay relevant – whatever that may mean to him – until after Nov 6 – so that he can say ‘I told you so’ after Romney and the rest of the Repugs go down in flames…then Calista can dump him for the ‘next bidder’.
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2012
12:17 pm
Fred – 11:35
Both of these young men were black. Both were teenagers. Both were unarmed. Both were shot dead. The shooters in each case claim they acted in self defense. Both are survived by grieving parents. What is this “vain attempt to make them equal” you speak of?
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
12:18 pm
“Pelosi – “let’s pass the ACA to see what is it” – the princess of the libs”
Milton Man – the resident liar of the conned
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
12:19 pm
Atlanta Native
March 29th, 2012
12:16 pm
Why can’t the $2.50 gas proposal be implemented without him becoming president?
Because as a long term goal it’s as much of a pipe dream as his election to the White House was.
snoqualmiepass
March 29th, 2012
12:19 pm
According to the Washington Times today, it seems Willard and Newt had a meeting over the weekend… Gee I wonder what they were talking about?
Becky
March 29th, 2012
12:20 pm
Dirty Dawg-I think Calista has passed her sell by date. I’m not sure there will be another bidder coming along so she will be damned to life with Newt. Ugh-I cannot imagine.
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
12:20 pm
“Can you goobs please make up your minds about Hank Johnson? a few years back he was apparently your personal lord and savior, and those in a position to crossed over in the primary to get him nominated over McKinney.”
Funny stuff there clown. Yes all 15 cons in DeKalb county for the idiot. Dont’ try to pawn him off like a $5 suit. The libs are stuck with this classic piece of work.
Gotta love his other quote about all the white hoods running through the countryside.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
12:21 pm
Keep, would you please tell us all where Hoffa is buried too since you’re able to decipher cases with little more info than biased media reports. I’m sure the officers who are actually there talking to others who are actually there would love your input.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
12:21 pm
“Ugh-I cannot imagine”
I think it’s pretty safe to say they deserve each other.
Erwin's cat
March 29th, 2012
12:22 pm
$2.50/gallon gas again is very possible…will we likely see it anytime soon? Only time will tell
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 29th, 2012
12:22 pm
it seems Willard and Newt had a meeting over the weekend… Gee I wonder what they were talking about?
Hot dang! It can only mean Newt’s going to be Secretary of State—you know, with all those diplomats to boss around and tell how to behave and be polite to people that are our enemas. Things is looking up!
Paul
March 29th, 2012
12:22 pm
getalife
“Does not pass the common sense test.”
Seems to apply to most of what we’re seeing.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
12:23 pm
would you please tell us all where Hoffa is buried
Graceland?
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
12:24 pm
“but he has left a trail of destruction also.”
Ennis,
Really? Could you detail this trail of destruction that Newt has left? I can detail a balanced budget with him as speaker.
And I can detail Obama’s path of destruction much more readily, from moutainous debt hurtling towards 16 trillion to anemic economic growth for 3 years, to unemployment still at 8.3% after 3 years, to a disaster of a health care bill, and finally to gas prices that are moving towards $4 and as some analysts are saying $5 by summer. Ya see that’s how you detail a path of destruction.
Common Sense isn't very Common
March 29th, 2012
12:24 pm
Becky@12:20 pm
I think Calista has passed her sell by date. I’m not sure there will be another bidder coming along so she will be damned to life with Newt. Ugh-I cannot imagine.
————————————————-
Now now remember Newt told his second wife that Calista didn’t mind sharing so maybe that will be the future plan.
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Becky
March 29th, 2012
12:25 pm
I will never ever forget Barbara Walters interviewing Herman Cain and his saying he wanted to be Secretary of Defense. One of the best tv moments ever!!!!
Paul
March 29th, 2012
12:25 pm
RB from Gwinnett
“would you please tell us all where Hoffa is buried too”
For the umpteenth time – NY Times reporter found out he was in the witness protection program.
Tacked him down. Found him a NY city hospital maternity ward trying to organize labor.
getalife
March 29th, 2012
12:27 pm
Paul,
Yes, most gop positions do not pass the common sense test but when you have mindless cons voting gop no matter what the gop cuts from them, it does not matter.
There is an opportunity to unite to get the corporate welfare for their rich friends to end but there will be no unity.
Another missed opportunity for the American people.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
12:28 pm
Thulsa Doom-is it not evident to you that no one is responding to your gibberish? Why are you still here? Go back to your wingman Kyle.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
12:31 pm
Paul – just remember…you started this! Apropos of nothing whatsoever, except it’s funny…this popped up on one of my mail lists the other day, supposed to be a factual exchange in a court case:
ATTORNEY: Doctor, how many of your autopsies have you performed on dead
people?
WITNESS: All of them.. The live ones put up too much of a fight.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
12:33 pm
Jobless claims drop to 4 year low
Stay the course.
Paul
March 29th, 2012
12:33 pm
getalife
I can understand the mindset behind straight-party voting. People don’t track the issues, assume the party stands for what it’s always stood for, they go in the booth and pull the lever.
But this seems different. People are following the issues. They repeat whatever they hear without thinking about it. If inconsistencies are pointed out, they repeat louder. Then they go ahead and vote for the party anyway.
It’s like the more they pay attention, the less they understand.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
12:35 pm
Becky, nobody else has so maybe you can answer. Who is going to pay the insurance premiums for all these poor people who are required to buy them under Obama’s plan?
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
12:35 pm
Becky
March 29th, 2012
12:28 pm
Thulsa Doom-is it not evident to you that no one is responding to your gibberish?
Apparently you responded sweetie pie so logically speaking your statement is no longer true. Then again I didn’t expect much logic from the kook left to begin with. And as for your gibberish apparently it got so juvenile that recon quit posting to you.
Perhaps your time as well as that of some of the other liberal kooks on here would be better spent going back to your game of pin the tail on the donkey.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
12:36 pm
It’s like the more they pay attention, the less they understand.
Natural consequence of watching fox.
oblama
March 29th, 2012
12:36 pm
Sounds kind of like Edward Kennedy. Philanderer, huge ego. At least Newt didn’t kill anyone.
Paul
March 29th, 2012
12:37 pm
Doggone/GA
“Paul – just remember…you started this! ”
LOL! Seemed to apply as much as some of the comments.
That was good. And I’d believe it. Nephew’s a defense attorney. Just won an acquittal for his client, who shot a guy on his property who knocked him down, assaulted his daughter and said he was going to take care of her. On the witness stand my nephew asked him why he made that comment. He replied ‘women need to know what their place is.”
Judge asked the prosecutor why they were even trying the case.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
12:38 pm
damned to life with Newt. Ugh-I cannot imagine.
We can try, however. I think Paul Weller summed it up best in this little ditty:
On the occasions he lies upon you
Close your eyes and think of nothing but
Private hell, private hell
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
12:38 pm
The way I see it, it’s just a matter of time before someone trots out the Robert Byrd KKK connection. Heck, it’s ONLY 70 years old or so…practically yesterday’s news.
AU Liberal in ATL
March 29th, 2012
12:39 pm
That old buzzard’s career ended the day his own party kicked his fat ass out of Congress. As far as I can remember that was the last time the republicans did anything respectable.
Mick
March 29th, 2012
12:39 pm
doomy
There you go again:
“moutainous debt hurtling towards 16 trillion”
Inherited from the previous loser, tag obama with stimulus
“anemic economic growth for 3 years, to unemployment still at 8.3% after 3 years”"
This one is so laughable, remember the economic collapse in 08? Houses underwater, lines of credit, construction industry demolished and this is obama’s fault – get a rality grip..
“to a disaster of a health care bill, and finally to gas prices that are moving towards $4 and as some analysts are saying $5 by summer.”
Let the court decide, we wanted single payer anyways. Yes, the president of the united states sets oil prices…duh, I think not and
once again you are all wet…
getalife
March 29th, 2012
12:39 pm
Paul,
I guess it is too complicated for them to understand.
Take gop cuts for instance
They can’t even cut big oil welfare so this should tell them the gop are lying about cuts..
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
12:39 pm
“Judge asked the prosecutor why they were even trying the case”
Yeah, some of them are just SO obvious
Becky
March 29th, 2012
12:40 pm
Thulsa-no recon quit posting and left with his tail between his legs because he got called out and couldn’t defend his point.
You always make me LOL realizing you are just a big ole blowhard.
Paul
March 29th, 2012
12:40 pm
RB
“Who is going to pay the insurance premiums for all these poor people who are required to buy them under Obama’s plan?”
Incidental to your question – guy from Heritage who came up with individual mandate was on Fox yesterday at lunchtime. Said they’d abandoned the idea and now favor…. are you ready for this?….
Subsidies!
AU Liberal in ATL
March 29th, 2012
12:40 pm
For the record, FOOL, the only thing Ted Kennedy had in common with Noot is a penis and in Noot’s case, I’d say even that is debatable.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
12:41 pm
I think I’ll dress up as Fox News for Halloween this year and scare the heck out of all the liberals.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
12:42 pm
“I think I’ll dress up as Fox News for Halloween this year and scare the heck out of all the liberals”
Just promise you won’t be hurt if we point and laugh instead
Becky
March 29th, 2012
12:44 pm
Doggone-dang, you beat me to it!
Mick
March 29th, 2012
12:47 pm
Fox news is NOT scary just_______ well, fill in the blank…
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
12:47 pm
“Just promise you won’t be hurt if we point and laugh instead”
heck we laugh now…………. may as well save a few bucks and keep playing the clown as demonstrated frequently on this blog
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
March 29th, 2012
12:48 pm
Becky
March 29th, 2012
11:32 am
Recon-no I just called your bluff. Don’t make declarations you can’t prove.
____________________________________________________________________________
Does that go for EVERYONE or just cons?
_____________________________________________________________________________
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:46 am
If this passes, what else will the government require us to buy? What other mandate will be called for?
Nothing and none, respectively.
“What has happened here is people who say they don’t want the law do not realize what is actually in it”
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
12:48 pm
“Pelosi – “let’s pass the ACA to see what is it” – the princess of the libs”
Milton Man – the resident liar of the conned
Thank You. Please come again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usJ-pMomvLQ
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
12:48 pm
RB, perhaps you might want to comprehend the recommendation of the lead investigator instead of making more childish ridiculous posts. For the record again, it is undisputed that Zimmerman killed an innocent child. The only question is whether his defense of “belief of a threat” meets the legal threshold of the FL Stand Your Ground law. Carry on RB…. PS, check out that footage at the police station of the critically injured Zimmerman.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
12:49 pm
Yo Becky…can you answer the question asked of you?
FYI. “I have no idea. I just follow Obama blindly because he has a D by his name” is an acceptable answer.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
12:49 pm
Mick,
I just deal in facts sir. From the day O stepped into office until now we have gone another 5 trillion in debt. Just the facts sir.
As for the price of gas of course O can’t set the price of oil. We all know that. But he can sure help us increase supply and hence lower price via this thing called the law of supply and demand. Perhaps you’ve heard of it.
Secondly if the president has no way of influencing oil prices then why is it that world oil dropped by $10 a barrel the day after W lifted the moratorium on drilling in the gulf? Explain this to me sir.
Thirdly as has been discussed many a times the reason oil is so high is because its being bought in dollar denominated purchases. The dollar has lost half its value since O came into office. That is called a fact sir. And the factors influencing the loss of the dollar are the money printing machine under O and of course the escalating debt under O which has hurt the dollar substantially. So does O hold some personal responsibility for the loss of value of the dollar and hence more costly gas? Your damn right he does. Only a moron could think otherwise.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
12:50 pm
“PS, check out that footage at the police station of the critically injured Zimmerman”
It’samazing, isn’t it, how speculation about what happened that day died to a whisper now that the video has been released.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
12:51 pm
“I have no idea. I just follow Obama blindly because he has a D by his name” is an acceptable answer.
And in 99% of all elections, this is a true statement. Thanks for playing.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
12:52 pm
“let’s pass the ACA to see what is it”
ok, where did she say this?
Better yet–Why don’t you just admit that the stuff your little cadre of right wing hardliners obsess about–a few ill chosen words by Hank Johnson here, an oft-misquoted comment that Pelosi made about how people needed to see a bill enacted and put into practice so they’d understand what was really in it there–isn’t even on the radar of most American voters?
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
12:53 pm
Becky
March 29th, 2012
12:40 pm
Thulsa-no recon quit posting and left with his tail between his legs because he got called out and couldn’t defend his point.
More like he recognized he was dealing with a child or at least an adult with the intellectual capacity of an 8 year old.
“You always make me LOL realizing you are just a big ole blowhard.”
And you make me laugh because you have nothing of actual substance to say. No surprise there.
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2012
12:54 pm
Keep Up – 12:48
Ervin Jefferson was also an innocent child killed by someone whose defense is “belief of threat”. His shooter was arrested and then released. Do you have any sympathy for this dead child? Or, is this a “different” situation?
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
12:57 pm
But he can sure help us increase supply and hence lower price via this thing called the law of supply and demand
perhaps you’ve heard of this thing called “proportion.” as in, the proportion of new energy supplies coming online from domestic sources, and their ability to actually affect this thing called “supply and demand.”
perhaps you’ve also heard of this thing called market speculation, which is how the prices are actually determined.
or, maybe you’re just a gullible sort who really believes if you drill here, drill now, you’ll pay less.
About what I’d expect from a guy who names himself after a comic book character.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
12:58 pm
“And in 99% of all elections, this is a true statement. Thanks for playing.”
Yes. Of course. People vote the same way 99% of the time which is why the House, Senate, and presidency never, ever change hands between the 2 main parties. Some points are so asininely stupid you wonder what liberal kooks were smoking when they wrote them.
Mick
March 29th, 2012
12:58 pm
doomy
Fact sir – supply and demand, who in the world has been increasing consumption? Hint: not us. What about speculators also???
Fact #2 Play your little propaganda catapault about the five trillion, how’s about a loss of revenue from imprudent tax cuts from early in the decade? How’s about the interest on the debt?
I guess the stock market regaining all its lost value has nothing to do with obama but the value of a dollar does?
You need to clean out your garbage disposal, it smells…
oblama
March 29th, 2012
12:59 pm
There are just as many big egos, philanderers, liars and crooks on the left as the right but unfortunately you support them because they are Dems.
sheepdawg
March 29th, 2012
12:59 pm
Rich, he’s been THE laughing stock for the past year already. But he is a very funny little guy suffering mightely from his own ego. I miss him since he’s dropped from the media spotlight, he was always good for a laugh. Now we’re left to laugh at those who still hold out hope for the maniac moon dog.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
1:00 pm
No keep, that’s where you and other morons like you are dangerously wrong. Its undisputed Zimmerman killed Martin. The Innocent part is something tools like you put in the conversation in your quest for revenge. Since neither you norr any of the idiot news people reporting on this were there, maybe we should let the investigators do their job and make a decision to prosecute based on the actual evidence and not crap people like you claim to be facts cause you saw it on a rally poster.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
1:01 pm
“But he is a very funny little guy suffering mightely from his own ego”
I would word it a little differently: a funny little guy whose ego cause US suffering. Somehow I don’t think HE “suffers” from his own ego.
Erwin's cat
March 29th, 2012
1:02 pm
The stock market hasn’t regained all of it’s value..
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
1:04 pm
“moutainous debt hurtling towards 16 trillion”
Yup, and the R’s passsed on 4 trillion deficit reduction just because 25% was revenue increases. That will make a pretty good campaign commercial.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
1:04 pm
Carlos, I have no idea about that particular case. I do have empathy for the families of anyone killed.
doh!
March 29th, 2012
1:06 pm
Newt’s political career ended in 1998. This has just been the last gasp of an egocentric know-it-all who thinks he is waaaaay smarter than he actually is.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
1:06 pm
RB, more childishness from you I expect. Again, perhaps you should comprehend what facts are and what the actual investigator of the case determined previously based on actual evidence. I know an intelligent response from you on this subject may be just beyond your ability.
Thomas
March 29th, 2012
1:07 pm
ok, where did she say this?
Pelosi on March 9, 2010
cool little software thing called youtube
Seems like Milton Man knows how to use- by the way I assume you dwell in Milton- an area of tremendous resources, great schools, and diversity. The diversity part is consistently denied by our good friends at the AJC.
sheepdawg
March 29th, 2012
1:07 pm
all walmart republicans on our blog should report immediately to kyle wingfield’s blog. kyle voted for newt, y’all can lament together, but be warned that kyle is pi$$ed at anyone who questions his infinite wisdom to the point of kicking folks off his site
just go, and don’t come back
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
1:08 pm
“perhaps you’ve heard of this thing called “proportion.” as in, the proportion of new energy supplies coming online from domestic sources, and their ability to actually affect this thing called “supply and demand.”
Yes. And thank you for making my point for me. Because being a believer in the law of supply and demand then you therefore understand that if we were bringing oil online all along in places such as the artic sea, anwr, keystone, etc. that the increased world supply of oil would lower prices. Glad to see we agree with supply and demand.
“perhaps you’ve also heard of this thing called market speculation, which is how the prices are actually determined.”
Yes. And perhaps you’ve learned something with the fact that when W lifted the gulf moratorium oil dropped by $10 a barrel overnight. A fact the lib kooks still refuse to address. Makes ya wonder what would happen if we went all out and sent signals to the world oil markets that we were going to actually start ramping up our drilling.
“or, maybe you’re just a gullible sort who really believes if you drill here, drill now, you’ll pay less.”
And maybe you’re just ignorant enough to still not understand the laws of supply and demand. If oil demand has risen in the last year or 2 from 86-88 million barrels a day to 90 million barrels with no corresponding increase in supply then how is it that your mind is incapable of understanding the simple fact that if an extra 2-4 million barrels of supply were produced that supply would match demand and hence keep prices stable.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:08 pm
Keep: A “liberal” namejacker gets yanked and still more cries about how “unfair” Jay is not to do X or Y. Oh the horror of having to post as a con. The disparate treatment. Why its almost as if you are second class citiznes
THIS.
Also, saved for the next time a con complains about a ban.
oblama
March 29th, 2012
1:10 pm
Hypocrites on this blog are numerous. You criticize Newt for the same things your side does but you still vote them back in office because they are Dems. Bonnie Fwank, for example, more than anyone, defended and supported the failed Fannie May while profiting off of it. The Dems in Congress pressured and threatened the banks to give mortgages to those that could not afford them. Like there aren’t any Dems in Congress that are philanderers, crooks, idiots, etc. ? TERM LIMITS for both parties to rid us of this plague called Congress.
Mad Max
March 29th, 2012
1:10 pm
Stands – Interesting you don’t think there is anything wrong about Pelosi’s statement. Just proves that the sheep follow their leaders wherever they take them.. Seems like you believe she, and the Dems will protect you and know what is best for you. Sad commentary.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:11 pm
RB: Who is going to pay the insurance premiums for all these poor people who are required to buy them under Obama’s plan?
The same people that pay for Medicaid now. Or didn’t you know Medicaid was a poor person medical program?
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
1:11 pm
“Interesting you don’t think there is anything wrong about Pelosi’s statement”
What is VASTLY more interesting is how many people believe the misquote and repeat it ad nauseum.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:14 pm
That Black Guy: If your point in your 12:48p was trying to say what is in the health care law is a mandate that Congress make more mandates, then you, too, do not know what is in the law.
My answer of Nothing and none is just as good as anyone else’s claim that it means the government will force people to buy brocolli, when it comes to proving what will happen in the future.
Mad Max
March 29th, 2012
1:14 pm
Doggone – Whichever version you believe, it should still scare you.
William
March 29th, 2012
1:15 pm
“They can be impeached. But not for not reading the text of a bill. I was stretching a little on that part. All federal judges can be impeached but the standard for impeaching them is pretty high.”
In the one and only impeachment trial of a Supreme Court justice in 1801, the Senate allowed itself to be persuaded by the justice’s defense attorney that “high crimes and misdemeanors” had to be an
indictable offense. That set a precedent which has been followed ever since. I suppose that the Congress could at any time change its mind and impeach a justice for something else, but that would require considerable resolve. As a consequence of this trial, the SCOTUS, emboldened by the effective removal of the threat of impeachment, arrogated to itself the right of judicial review two years later in the Marbury case – something they did not have previously. So the Senate, in effect, handed the keys to the car over to the SCOTUS. That is why the SCOTUS has been making de facto law for decades upon decades.
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
1:15 pm
“let’s pass the ACA to see what is it”
ok, where did she say this?
Good God the libs are on one-hand denying that she ever said this & on the other hand refuse to click on the link that had already been supplied for this???
Man, maybe we can have Obozo pass some kind of stimulus for this type of disorder.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
1:17 pm
if we were bringing oil online all along in places such as the artic sea, anwr, keystone, etc. that the increased world supply of oil would lower prices.
Jeez, you usually bring something besides a carved-up bar of soap to a gun fight.
This is just sad.
You actually believe that if the Uppity Muslim wasn’t keepin’ Real Merkin Drillerz at bay, why, Newt is right! we COULD have two-fitty gazzoline!
sheesh. Who actually listens to this crap?
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:17 pm
That Black Guy: I also did back this statement up repeatedly, with a poll that shows the contradiction between people who don’t want the law but want what’s in it: “What has happened here is people who say they don’t want the law do not realize what is actually in it”
Note I did not use a qualifier, just said “people.” That does not imply all, many, most, some, or any other qualifier. No qualifier was used.
So, you know, your point is moot. I didn’t make declarations I can’t back up unless they are declarations about possible futures, which I am well within my rights to guess at without claiming qualifiers because, in general, people shouldn’t be stupid enough to think I was actually saying this was a definite outcome and no other future is possible.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
1:17 pm
“Whichever version you believe, it should still scare you.”
Why? I have a much better understanding of Congressional process and I have ALWAYS known that NO ONE knows completely what is in a bill UNTIL it is passed. Sure, they know what was presented, but given the process known as AMENDMENT the final version is not settled until it is finally passed.
Mad Max
March 29th, 2012
1:18 pm
Milton Man – you know the saying, if a tree falls in the forest, did it make any noise? Well some of our brethern here would rather not hear it so they can continue to deny it.
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
1:18 pm
“Interesting you don’t think there is anything wrong about Pelosi’s statement”
“What is VASTLY more interesting is how many people believe the misquote and repeat it ad nauseum”
Oh yes, the trite and over-used lib excuse of misquote.
Up next by the libs: “you cons are always using that right-wing site Youtube”
jp
March 29th, 2012
1:19 pm
Newt America has a short memory.they do not want foward thinking.they are still stuck on hope and change. You’re better then what we got.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
1:19 pm
Good God the libs are on one-hand denying that she ever said this & on the other hand refuse to click on the link that had already been supplied for this???
Milton. Let’s try this again.
She. Did. Not. Say. That.
She said this:
“You’ve heard about the controversies within the bill, the process about the bill, one or the other. But I don’t know if you have heard that it is legislation for the future, not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America, where preventive care is not something that you have to pay a deductible for or out of pocket. Prevention, prevention, prevention—it’s about diet, not diabetes. It’s going to be very, very exciting.
“But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.”
oh the humanity and all of the passengers.
Seriously, are you this dense? you think I don’t know the friggin’ quote already?
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:19 pm
MiltonMan: The implication of the cut clip is that Pelosi was saying that in order for even herself to know what was in it, it had to pass first. In full context, it was clear what she was saying was that the public would have to wait for it to pass before they know the entirety of what made it in, after negotiations.
You can quibble about whether or not the negotiations were on CSPAN at this point, if you want, but that would be what is called “moving the goalposts.”
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
1:20 pm
“Fact sir – supply and demand, who in the world has been increasing consumption? Hint: not us.”
The answer is China Mick. But its an irrelevant point anyway. The point is about supply and demand and us not producing the supply that we could.
“What about speculators also???”
You can learn from the tutorial I just gave stands concerning speculation.
“Fact #2 Play your little propaganda catapault about the five trillion, how’s about a loss of revenue from imprudent tax cuts from early in the decade?”
If you’re talking about the W tax cuts Obama and a fully Dem Congress could have rescinded the W tax cuts. They didn’t so your point is without merit sir. Just another inconvenient fact you have to deal with. As for the tax cuts causing W deficits his share of the debt is on him. No one is saying W wasn’t part of the problem.
“How’s about the interest on the debt?”
Hows about the new interest on the new 5 trillion in debt under O?
“I guess the stock market regaining all its lost value has nothing to do with obama but the value of a dollar does?”
It has to do with corporate America laying off people, cutting the fat so to speak, curtailing expansion and new operations which are cash hogs. They have become cash cows not willing to expand under O. That is why the markets are near highs again while unemployment remains high and overall economic growth anemic at best. Do you question the terrible facts concerning economic growth and unemployment under O? Do you sir?
“You need to clean out your garbage disposal, it smells…”
This from a liberal who believes in the concept of liberalism that it is indeed possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
1:21 pm
Keep. No point in a trial. You’ve already deemed Martin innocent and Z guilty of killing an unarmed innocent “child”.
On nothing more than media reports. Wow!!
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
1:21 pm
“Oh yes, the trite and over-used lib excuse of misquote.”
Only because the misquote is so trite and over-used.
emo
March 29th, 2012
1:21 pm
“He’s in danger, I think, of becoming a laughingstock.”
Was this comment made ten years ago? If not, it’s way too late.
In any case, if Newt & Callista want to go looking for greener pastures, I hope they remember they’re Catholics now, and will need an annulment from the Pope. And I fear Newt is too broke to buy one.
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
1:23 pm
“Milton Man – you know the saying, if a tree falls in the forest, did it make any noise? Well some of our brethern here would rather not hear it so they can continue to deny it.”
Affirmative. Man, I am still trying to figure at the other 7 states and go to bed at night worrying if, as Michelle stated, that she is still proud to be an American for the first time in her life. I might even vote for her husband for her to maintain her pride.
Libs cue up with “lies, all lies” in 3,2,1…
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:24 pm
RB: No point in a trial. You’ve already deemed Martin innocent and Z guilty of killing an unarmed innocent “child”.
Of course there’s a point in a trial, and Keep won’t be on the jury anyway. What’s the problem with having a trial?
RamboDog
March 29th, 2012
1:24 pm
To gm
Why don’t those camera hound has beens (Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton) stay on tv when there are black kids shooting each other in every major city in America? Every large city that is governed by liberal democratic leaders are at the top of violent crime statistics and they are among the poorest in our country.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:25 pm
Why don’t those camera hound has beens (Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton)
No, why do you give a sh*t? is the better question
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 29th, 2012
1:25 pm
MiltonMan
The fact that you apparently have no clue as to how the legislative process works and also no desire to learn or understand
is just shameful
I always wonder how people can be proud of lacking basic civics knowledge.
Pitiful.
Just pitiful.
barking frog
March 29th, 2012
1:26 pm
It’s possible Newt may
return to Georgia due
to the encouraging vote
he got here.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
1:26 pm
RB: Who is going to pay the insurance premiums for all these poor people who are required to buy them under Obama’s plan?
“The same people that pay for Medicaid now. Or didn’t you know Medicaid was a poor person medical program?”
Adam,
I was watching a discussion on the news the other night about Obamacare. Its no secret that in Obamacare that millions of people would be moved to the Medicaid rolls. What you have to understand is that the states can’t afford it. On average medicaid eats up 22% of state budgets and to put millions more on medicaid won’t work. The states simply do not have the money for it.
William
March 29th, 2012
1:26 pm
“Incidental to your question – guy from Heritage who came up with individual mandate was on Fox yesterday at lunchtime. Said they’d abandoned the idea and now favor…. are you ready for this? Subsidies!”
The problem underlying the idea of a mandate is indisputable: there are a considerable number of people who are unwilling to buy health insurance if they are young and healthy. And that is disastrous to the health insurance industry and to all of the rest of us. So I think it is obvious people need to be compelled to buy insurance. But how to do it? I am thinking that if you remove the “safety net” introduced in the Reagan era (of being treated at an ER no matter what) and spend time and money impressing upon people that they will NOT receive medical care without insurance, then that might work. Those who still elect not to obtain insurance will have pay out of their own pockets (an some clearly can). Of course, this means that insurance will also have to be affordable for all. But I am confident this could be accomplished as well.
Paul
March 29th, 2012
1:27 pm
Afternoon, Thulsa
“From the day O stepped into office until now we have gone another 5 trillion in debt.”
I’ve yet to hear a specific response to the question of what a McCain presidency would have done in the face of the financial meltdown that would have avoided adding billions to the deficit.
Paul
March 29th, 2012
1:27 pm
Thulsa
Trillions. Make that adding trillions to the deficit.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
1:27 pm
What you have to understand is that the states can’t afford it
refresh my memory–what percentage of the increased Medicaid premiums are states on the hook for, under the ACA?
You should know this, since you’re such an expert on, well, everything.
Paul
March 29th, 2012
1:28 pm
Thulsa
“What you have to understand is that the states can’t afford it. On average medicaid eats up 22% of state budgets and to put millions more on medicaid won’t work. The states simply do not have the money for it.”
Which is why the feds are paying for it.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
1:28 pm
Adam, so more load is dumped on the 53%?? Funny Obama doesn’t mention that in his campaign speeches.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:29 pm
RB: Adam, so more load is dumped on the 53%??
55% now, and yes. I am one of those. Boohoo to anyone who only wants to pay taxes for what they use. Cry me a river, really.
297 more days
March 29th, 2012
1:30 pm
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
12:49 pm
Great Post………….The current POTUS is the worst ever.. You can pile fact upon fact, and all they can do is blame Bush, you know the guy who has been out of office for over three years…………Thank goodness for the Republicans in the House, other wise we would be 10 Trillion in debt and praising Allah several times a day………….Keep the faith, it woi’t be as long
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
1:30 pm
” Z guilty of killing an unarmed innocent “child”. ”
Well, he did kill Martin. There’s no argument about that. Whether or not it was justified has yet to be determined.
oblama
March 29th, 2012
1:31 pm
Fannie Mae – sorry. Term Limits for idiots on both sides – don’t you agree?
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:31 pm
BTW, healthier people means more able bodied people to work. Who DOESN’T want that to happen?
RamboDog
March 29th, 2012
1:32 pm
RB from Gwinnett….you are correct. See comment above, the “Feds” are paying for it. With what? Oh yeah, more taxes on you and me.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:32 pm
Term Limits for idiots on both sides
No, because then the only people who know how to pull the right levers and press the right buttons to get stuff done will be the lobbyists.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
1:33 pm
297 days,
No matter how much you throw the facts at the libs it just doesn’t matter. They either slink off or they change the subject to some irrelevant point or they resort to an emotional argument that makes no sense at all. Its their MO. Its what they do.
getalife
March 29th, 2012
1:34 pm
“Hitting the American people twice’
Obama urges Congress to repeal billions in tax breaks to oil companies that are reaping huge profits.”Yahoo
Lets cut big oil welfare cons.
Stand up.
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
1:34 pm
Okay libs now that it has been two years since ACA has passed, please, oh please clue us in what exactly is in the bill. I will start us off:
(1) Everyone has the “right” to healthcare; however the “evil rich” with their “cadillac” plans will have to pay a premium.
(2) The HHS dept. will pick and choose (i.e., their union buddies) who receive ObamaCare waivers
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
1:35 pm
The police video of Zimmerman doesn’t prove anything. The report is that para-medics cleaned him up at the scene and this video was taken one hour later. When this story first broke 73% believed this young man was killed in cold blood I was among those who thought Zimmerman probably stepped beyond the law. Now only 48% believe Travon Martin was shot in cold blood. The media’s rush to judgment and Sharpton, Jackson et al stirring up emotions along with so many on the left jumping to the conclusion about Zimmerman’s guilt not to mention this black panther idiot have turned people off. Additionally the facts that have now come out disproving the original media reports describing Martin as an innocent angel. I don’t know about Zimmerman’s guilt or innocence but people should chill and await completion of the investigation.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:35 pm
Thulsa: They either slink off or they change the subject to some irrelevant point or they resort to an emotional argument that makes no sense at all.
I believe this is what I call “Projection” and that I have also recently heard described as the “I’m rubber, you’re glue” juvenile argument.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
1:35 pm
Btw Adam. How is that research coming along ?
Common Sense isn't very Common
March 29th, 2012
1:35 pm
Newt for GA. Gov. he can run on the moonie party ticket
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:36 pm
Recon: If that’s true then in a court of law the defense should have no problem getting the medic’s report for cleaning him up. Did he wash the grass off the back of his shirt and tuck his shirt back in too?
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:37 pm
RB: 9 out of a target 30 businesses
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
1:37 pm
“Which is why the feds are paying for it.”
Paul,
Are you talking about the same feds who are 16 trillion in debt and growing, who this year have an estimated 1.3 trillion dollar budget defiict, and who last month had the largest monthly budget deficit in U.S. history?
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
1:38 pm
MiltonMan
“The fact that you apparently have no clue as to how the legislative process works and also no desire to learn or understand
is just shameful”
Coming from a “lady” who thought Lockheed Martin was a government entity that built C140s, I take that as an extreme compliment. Many Thanks!
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
1:39 pm
“I believe this is what I call “Projection” and that I have also recently heard described as the “I’m rubber, you’re glue” juvenile argument.”
Adam,
And I’ll just call it observed behavior.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:41 pm
And I’ll just call it observed behavior.
You’re right, I am observant of your behavior. Thank you.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
1:41 pm
RB, again you try to put words in my mouth that I did not say and you fail to make an intelligent statement as I predicted. There is no dispute that Zimmerman did kill an innocent child. He is guilty of that by his OWN admission. The only dispute is whether it was justified under the FL Stand Your Ground law and if it excuses his killing of a child who did nothing wrong other than, if the claims most favorable to Zimmerman are accepted–and they do not seem to hold up–defend himself against an unknown stranger pursuing him. That is a matter for the jury to determine.
Perhaps your poutrage would change if this were a fetus wearing a hoodie.
oblama
March 29th, 2012
1:41 pm
If my idiot is a Dem vote him back in but if your idiot is a Repub vote him out. Got it. That’s why we need term limits. Your definition of IDIOT doesn’t match the one in the dictionary!
William
March 29th, 2012
1:42 pm
“No keep, that’s where you and other morons like you are dangerously wrong. Its undisputed Zimmerman killed Martin. The Innocent part is something tools like you put in the conversation in your quest for revenge. Since neither you norr any of the idiot news people reporting on this were there, maybe we should let the investigators do their job and make a decision to prosecute based on the actual evidence and not crap people like you claim to be facts cause you saw it on a rally poster.”
Of course one can try to incite mob violence as Spike Lee apparently did by tweeting Zimmerman’s address to thousands and thousands of people. Except in this case, he tweeted the wrong address (that of a 70 year old couple) and exposed entirely innocent people to potential harm.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:44 pm
If you’re basing it on the definition of idiot, idiots shouldn’t be in office in my opinion. You know, people who are just stupid or mentally handicapped, unable to make rational choices, etc. But if you are basing it on whether or not you can CALL someone an idiot, well, I don’t think that should be something that disqualifies someone to get any votes.
bluecoat
March 29th, 2012
1:45 pm
Newt needs to team with Rush.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:45 pm
maybe we should let the investigators do their job and make a decision to prosecute based on the actual evidence
And where was this sentiment when it came to the first investigators – the Sanford Police Department?
getalife
March 29th, 2012
1:45 pm
The leader of the gop is a Mormon moderate that started willardcare.
He flip flops on most of the issues and has a weird sense of humor.
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
1:46 pm
Adam, if he is in fact indicted I’m certain that evidence will be called. As for cleaning off grass stains and tucking in his shirt, I wasn’t there to observe and I presume you were not as well.
William
March 29th, 2012
1:47 pm
“No, because then the only people who know how to pull the right levers and press the right buttons to get stuff done will be the lobbyists.”
Huh? This statement implies you know how long it takes for an elected official to actually learn the ropes. So, please, tell us long that is. And then tell us how this applies to Obama who had no executive experience prior to becoming president.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
1:47 pm
William, if Lee did that I would agree that it was completely wrong. Do you also take the position that it is wrong and unacceptable when abortion protestors do the same on websites by posting all sorts of personal information about medical providers or when political opponents do it?
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
March 29th, 2012
1:48 pm
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:14 pm
That Black Guy: If your point in your 12:48p was trying to say what is in the health care law is a mandate that Congress make more mandates, then you, too, do not know what is in the law. – That statement is just plain silly, but don’t let that stop you. IF the Fed gov’t can mandate that a citizen purchase a product from a private company, then you can’t HONESTLY say that from now UNTIL the end of time they won’t/can’t do it again with another product.
My answer of Nothing and none is just as good as anyone else’s claim that it means the government will force people to buy brocolli, when it comes to proving what will happen in the future. – In other words, they as well as YOU do not know what the gov’t will do in the future. So, that means you can’t HONESTLY say in response to the question “what else can/will the gov’t mandate a pvt citizen to purchase”, “Nothing and none” because you DON’T KNOW. You can hope, pray, and believe that to be the truth, but you DON’T KNOW because the future is just that, THE FUTURE!
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 29th, 2012
1:49 pm
MiltonMan
Yes, I was wrong. Yes, I stated so publically.
(although I think you have some details about what I had wrong – wrong)
That said is that an acceptable EXCUSE for you to not have the same civics knowledge most 5th graders have?
Do you consider yourself to be the intellectual equal of Jethro Bodine?
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:49 pm
Recon: That medic should get promoted to doctor if he is able to clean off grass stains, tuck in a shirt, clean up a BROKEN (not just bloody) nose and back of his head to the point where it looks like nothing happened, all within the 30 minutes (not an hour) from the time of the shooting to the time he ARRIVED at the police station, meaning even if the medic got there right after the shooting, 0 seconds, that he would only have 30 minutes MINUS whatever time it takes to put Zimmerman in the car and drive him to the station. I mean that’s a good cleanup job!
oblama
March 29th, 2012
1:50 pm
Adam are you saying you aren’t capable or have the guts to vote the idiots out – not even if they are Dems? Lobbyists only pull the lever for one vote per lobbyist just like we do and for every lobbyist o the left there is one on the right. Term Limits are good enough for the President – should be good enough for Congress.
297 more days
March 29th, 2012
1:51 pm
Poor #*@&, He now will have to work even harder at his Republican hate, the DNC does not want to lose in 297 more days.
Whats the going rate of pay at the DNC #*@&?
When O’Bama loses, you will be out of a job……….Do you have a pension plan? Unemployment benefits? Just looking out for ya dude. Might want to update that resume’.
I would imagine that the unemployment rate will go back to 10%, when O’Bama’s crowd of Czars and cronies lose their job with the change of leadership to the Republicans……………
But of course, this could apply to several of Jay’s minions.
Mick
March 29th, 2012
1:51 pm
Doom
Bait and switch, who consuming again? Are you saying it doesn’t factor in rising prices? Speculators that can buy oil without storage capacity? I think thats a problem. Who STARTED all these tax cuts and wars that led to where we are at anyway? Not obama…
Truth of the matter is that both parties are equal opportunity debt producers. I do believe the first half of the past decade got the ball rolling bigtime, we’ve been trying to right the ship ever since…
oblama
March 29th, 2012
1:51 pm
Adam you are against term limits because you want to keep your idiots in. Gotcha!
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:52 pm
IF the Fed gov’t can mandate that a citizen purchase a product from a private company, then you can’t HONESTLY say that from now UNTIL the end of time they won’t/can’t do it again with another product.
And you can’t honestly say they didn’t already have that power affirmed through previous SCOTUS rulings.
So, that means you can’t HONESTLY say in response to the question “what else can/will the gov’t mandate a pvt citizen to purchase”
Ah, but it wasn’t “can/will,” it was just “will.” Had can been in there I would have said they “can”, but I don’t think they will, because they haven’t since the 1942 case of Wickard v. Filburn.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
1:53 pm
Ahhh, the legally rejected “well she was a tramp, therefore she could never have been raped” disparagement by some is just evidence of a lack of comprehension. But keep trying to bring up rabbit holes, del.
Amazing how a struggling Zimmerman fighting for his life can just “wipe” off the grass stains. I am sure that will be presented at trial (if one) and the parties can dissect it. It is sure not as strong as case as seeing significant grass stains.
William
March 29th, 2012
1:54 pm
“William, if Lee did that I would agree that it was completely wrong. Do you also take the position that it is wrong and unacceptable when abortion protestors do the same on websites by posting all sorts of personal information about medical providers or when political opponents do it?”
Inciting others to violence is wrong, period. And often criminal. What Lee did is scary, because he is a celebrity with a much wider audience – thereby, I would think, increasing the likelihood that a totally innocent couple might have been seriously harmed. He not only was attempting to indirectly incite violence, he was unwittingly doing it against the wrong people. Dang…that is scary. I guess I had better not tick off Sean Penn.
oblama
March 29th, 2012
1:54 pm
History lesson: The states did run the Medicaid system originally but the Fed government felt the need to take over and ever since the costs have gone higher and higher under their one system fits all policy.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
Adam are you saying you aren’t capable or have the guts to vote the idiots out – not even if they are Dems?
No, I’m saying:
1) that an idiot, by DEFINITION, is someone “of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard against common dangers.” No one in Congress is an idiot BY DEFINITION.
2) If I disagree with someone in Congress enough, I will either not vote for them, or if I like what the one of the challengers wants to do instead, I will vote for them. But I won’t vote for the other person if I deem them to be just as bad or worse.
kkong
March 29th, 2012
1:56 pm
Let’s see now…if Newt would be elected our prez, that would make Clrista the first third lady, right?
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:58 pm
kkong: Probably not. I doubt he would be the first to enter office during his third marriage.
oblama
March 29th, 2012
1:59 pm
Enough with this Zimmerman B.S. You don’t know all the facts since they have not been released to the public. You don’t know who is guilty or innocent. Surely you trust your precious Oblama run Fed government to handle it? Relax – your government is slow but hardly working. Just hope we don’t get the O.J. jury.
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
March 29th, 2012
2:01 pm
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:17 pm
I didn’t make declarations I can’t back up unless they are declarations about possible futures, – fair enough
which I am well within my rights to guess at without claiming qualifiers because, in general, people shouldn’t be stupid enough to think I was actually saying this was a definite outcome and no other future is possible. – are you saying that you don’t ask other posters to justify their statements when they don’t use quantifiers?
P.S. I really hope you are not calling me stupid.
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
2:01 pm
Lib friends, since ya’ll are so brilliant at interpreting what the princess Nancy says when she speaks and “I have no clue”, please decipher this one for me. Thanks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOJ1n2jJjqI&feature=related
oblama
March 29th, 2012
2:01 pm
Adam – I hate to say it but by your own words Newt is not an idiot.
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
2:02 pm
Adam, if you practice criminal law or have functioned as a crime investigator you may want to get involved. I’ll await the final results from the investigation before forming my opinion.
St Simons - we're on Island time
March 29th, 2012
2:04 pm
“The Gingrich political career, now at an end”
Cmon, cons – Defend Georgia’s pick for President
really, just to make it easier, the blog ought to have the AM radio
shows’ transcripts every day, and rather than type “blahhhhdy-blah-blah”
just post “Refer to paragraph1, Rush, 2nd hour” saves time
cuts down on plagiarism liability, win-win
hahahaha
yeah, imagine a world where cons were jailed for plagiarism hahaaha
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
2:05 pm
“Adam you are against term limits because you want to keep your idiots in. Gotcha!”
And you want them because you’re too lazy to voate your idiots out.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
2:07 pm
are you saying that you don’t ask other posters to justify their statements when they don’t use quantifiers?
When it comes to future predictions I don’t say such a thing unless I am being snarky in response to someone else’s “Crystal Ball” comment. And I try to stay away from insisting on qualifiers if I can tell the qualifier was an oversight rather than a deliberate omission or a repeated talking point without any critical thinking behind the repetition.
And no, I’m not saying you’re stupid. In fact, I know you knew better.
St Simons - we're on Island time
March 29th, 2012
2:08 pm
Newt need some dreads mon. Den he have cred, ya see
He already a cheetah & a creepah. 2 outta 3 ain’t bad, donchaknow
William
March 29th, 2012
2:08 pm
“yeah, imagine a world where cons were jailed for plagiarism hahaaha”
Imagine a world where liberals were jailed for ad hominem and red herring arguments.
oblama
March 29th, 2012
2:08 pm
I said the dictionary doesn’t fit YOUR definition of idiot. I already know what the definition of idiot is. I also know what Clinton’s definition of “IS” is. You are wrong. There are several long time idiots in Congress – on both sides. Nancy Pelosi fits my definition.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
2:09 pm
No, Newt is not an idiot. He is just not at all right for the office of President, especially because of his lying and belief in hate being a force that helps him win.
Jack
March 29th, 2012
2:09 pm
Newt’s personal life did him in. That wig his present wife wears didn’t help any either.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
2:09 pm
“Speculators that can buy oil without storage capacity?”
If you read history Mick we outlawed the speculation a long time ago by I think making them take delivery. So what happened? They simply moved to Britain and the exchange for oil futures took place over there. So we lost those firms and their taxable profits before deciding the wise thing was to bring it back after all.
Exactly what do you propose to do to penalize the speculators knowing this bit of history?
“I think thats a problem. Who STARTED all these tax cuts and wars that led to where we are at anyway? Not obama…”
In other words you’ve deflected from the central point of discussion and made a full circle right back to the blame W card.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
2:10 pm
Imagine a world where liberals were jailed for ad hominem and red herring arguments.
That would solve a lot of problems on BOTH sides of the political aisle
Rocky's Lil
March 29th, 2012
2:11 pm
newt, a small slimy critter that lives in rotten logs. Pusselgut needs to go. What an embarrassment for the state of Georgia!
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
2:12 pm
Paul,
Hard to speculate on what a McCain presidency would have been like. I consider him to be a rino considering the presidential debates. Its a hypothetical that is kind of useless to pursue except that I things would be much better. We would be drilling more, the regulatory environment would not be so anti-business, and I’ve a feeling we wouldn’t be anywhere near the shocking debt levels we are at now.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
2:12 pm
Exactly what do you propose to do to penalize the speculators knowing this bit of history?
Well, obviously, we should let them get away with that kind of behavior, simply because they always try to get away with it. Why bother?
Rightwing Troll
March 29th, 2012
2:12 pm
We know who was stalking whom, we know who pulled the trigger, we “know” the lead investigator felt he had cause to arrest… We know Zimmerman was a Democrat…
That last one right there should be enough for most of the wingnuts here to make an arrest. I’m sure if Zim had used a knife not a gun, the wingnuts would be screaming for his head. But he used his holstered penis extension, so not-so-much…
The boy’s body? What shape were his hands in? If you’re beating somebody to death, there has to be physical evidence. We have plenty of corraborating evidence against Zimmerman, but just his word of mouth the other way. Show me some physical evidence that the boy was beating Zim to death and I’ll shutup…
Common Sense isn't very Common
March 29th, 2012
2:13 pm
Jay -
‘The Gingrich political career, now at an end’?
should have had a question mark.
He can run for governor of Va. or Ga. (if he relocates to his popularity center).
He can be chosen as a running mate for Mitt.
His running for nationwide office is probably at an end (THANK THE LORD).
But never say never about the Nutster.
William
March 29th, 2012
2:14 pm
“And you want them because you’re too lazy to voate your idiots out.”
I guess some precedents are more equal than others, huh? The president is term limited, so it is not as if term limits are a pie-in-the-sky concept. I bet liberals who oppose them would not wish to argue that someone like Byrd, who served in office into his 90s, should probably not have stayed that long. I guess in that case, some term limits are more equal than others.
oblama
March 29th, 2012
2:15 pm
Doggone – Sometimes I have to decide which idiot is better than the other idiot as in the case of Oblama vs Mac. I vote in EVERY election. So if you are voting an idiot back in you are lazy? Are you lazy?
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
2:16 pm
Keep. You keep claiming Martin is innocent. If you have evidence to support that, get off this blog and call the Sanford police. If not, maybe you should give it a rest.
And to say Z has agreed he killed an innocent child is an outright lie.
William
March 29th, 2012
2:16 pm
“…and I’ve a feeling we wouldn’t be anywhere near the shocking debt levels we are at now.”
Whatever McCain may not be in people’s eyes, he was certainly a fiscal conservative and has the record to prove it.
Rightwing Troll
March 29th, 2012
2:16 pm
“and I’ve a feeling we wouldn’t be anywhere near the shocking debt levels we are at now.”
Bwahahahahahaha….
McSame would’ve continued W’s fiscal policies just like Obama has, Florida STILL would’ve been resistant to offshore drilling.
Can you give us a single solitary example of a “job killing” regulation Obama has enacted?
What say ye to the GA legislature raising the unemployment insurance tax on us “job creators” (small businesses)?
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
2:18 pm
RB, do tell us all genius what crime Martin was committing? We do know the investigator wanted Zimmerman prosecuted.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
2:18 pm
McCain would have quadrupled the national debt starting wars with every country possible.
William
March 29th, 2012
2:20 pm
“And to say Z has agreed he killed an innocent child is an outright lie.”
I have not read or heard that. But I have read that he has been very remorseful and depressed. However this turns out, Trayvon should not have lost his life. And he wouldn’t have if Zimmerman hadn’t followed him against the directive of the dispatcher. He made an awful decision and now must live with the awful consequences.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
2:21 pm
“I guess some precedents are more equal than others, huh? The president is term limited, so it is not as if term limits are a pie-in-the-sky concept”
And *I* would do away with that Presidential term limit if it was in my power to do it. We already HAVE term limits…they’re called “elections”
William
March 29th, 2012
2:21 pm
“McCain would have quadrupled the national debt starting wars with every country possible.”
Palm readings, 5 dollars a pop.
oblama
March 29th, 2012
2:21 pm
It’s been a hoot talking to you of strange views. See ya later. Newt’s still alive isn’t he? Jay – wishful thinking on your part.
Rightwing Troll
March 29th, 2012
2:22 pm
Newt story…
In 1997 my fiance and I had our rehersal dinner at a restaurant near Town Center Mall. We were suprised to see Newt and his entourage (pre-calista) traipse in and be seated 2 tables away from us. Back then there were still smoking areas in restaurants, but we were not seated in the smoking area or anywhere near it. That didn’t stop Newts mom and a couple others from firing up however, and our complaints were no avail… Egotistical, arrogant, and above the law… (or in this case the establishments rules) That’s your Newt.
William
March 29th, 2012
2:23 pm
“And *I* would do away with that Presidential term limit if it was in my power to do it. We already HAVE term limits…they’re called “elections”
Yes…on the theory that people are “lazy”. So, to be logically consistent, how does that theory apply to other political issues or policies – say, an insurance mandate?
Rightwing Troll
March 29th, 2012
2:24 pm
“RB, do tell us all genius what crime Martin was committing?”
So far it would appear as if he was defending himself from a stalker, but the I guess SYG laws only apply if a boomstick is used…
John Birch
March 29th, 2012
2:25 pm
Good piece Bookman. His ego did him in, however……he wa very insturmental in a Congress that presided over the longest period of peace and prosperity durng my lifetime. And the only balanced budget.
Rightwing Troll
March 29th, 2012
2:25 pm
Term limits were a big part of Newts Contract on America, they were one of the first promises broken…
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
“I mean that’s a good cleanup job!”
Maybe he moonlights as a cut man for a prominent boxer……
Adam
March 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
So, to be logically consistent, how does that theory apply to other political issues or policies – say, an insurance mandate?
People weren’t lazy in demonizing it and voting in 2010.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
John Birch-and the president during those 8 years of peace and prosperity was??????
William
March 29th, 2012
2:27 pm
“People weren’t lazy in demonizing it and voting in 2010.”
Nice attempt to dodge the question, but try again.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
2:29 pm
“say, an insurance mandate?”
I was, and am, against it, but it was the best we could get and it can be changed. I would have preferred single payer.
William
March 29th, 2012
2:30 pm
“I was, and am, against it, but it was the best we could get and it can be changed. I would have preferred single payer.”
Fair enough. Then we just disagree.
Paul
March 29th, 2012
2:30 pm
C’mon, Thulsa, you know better than that.
[[Which is why the feds are paying for it.”
Paul,
Are you talking about the same feds who are 16 trillion in debt and growing, who this year have an estimated 1.3 trillion dollar budget defiict, and who last month had the largest monthly budget deficit in U.S. history?]]
Your original post was to the effect Obamacare would burden the states with Medicare because of what they’re now paying. It was pointed out that formula changes drastically – it was a big point in the SCOTUS.
Your citing current debt levels is a poor diversion from answering are the costs going to be borne by the states or the feds.
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
March 29th, 2012
2:31 pm
oblama
March 29th, 2012
1:59 pm
Im starting to think you must have a “viagra” moment every time you say Obama.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
2:32 pm
…could you also call Trayvons parents and tell them to stop whining too!
Occasionally someone racist posts something particularly vile and depraved.
Kudos, RB, for never disappointing.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
2:34 pm
Becky
March 29th, 2012
2:18 pm
“McCain would have quadrupled the national debt starting wars with every country possible.”
Them broken liberal kook crystal balls are always good for a bellyaching laugh.
William
March 29th, 2012
2:34 pm
“Occasionally someone racist posts something particularly vile and depraved.”
Ah, the arbiter of racism has chimed in. I am getting to think that the poster doth protest too much.
Thomas
March 29th, 2012
2:35 pm
“Newt’s inability to distinguish between an idea and a pander betrays a lot about how he thinks”
Jay- The AJC reports $4/gallon by next week. What is old is folks like you who hold themselves out as professional journalist who simply lie and mislead daily. It is not worth going back and quoting all the BS statements by Obama, Romney, Clinton, Bsuh etc. that were far more “whoppers”, than the above.
I never have cared for Newt but I cannot be alone in craving information- not politicized “journalism”.
Where credit is due is that you and the AJC do an A+ job on sifting out the corruption at the local and state level. It makes an Atlantan proud to see the grade inflation report gaining national attention. If that doesn’t get you the blog attention needed to carry on- then F it- quit selling out.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
2:36 pm
Thulsa-you know it is true. Man up and admit McCain would have us entrenched in war before the inauguration balls were over.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
2:36 pm
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
2:16 pm
Keep. You keep claiming Martin is innocent. If you have evidence to support that, get off this blog and call the Sanford police. If not, maybe you should give it a rest.
And to say Z has agreed he killed an innocent child is an outright lie.
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What in the HELL is wrong with you? The ONLY reason you are trying to smear this murdered boy is because President Obama said something good about him.
You are sick. I hope to God nothing like this ever happens to one of YOUR children or family members. And if it does I hope the words you type now come up and shame you to death. Personally I wouldn’t be able to look myself in the mirrir if I were you typing this crap.
Not even Boortz will go where you are going.
http://www.boortz.com/weblogs/nealz-nuze/2012/mar/27/trayvon-martin-putting-drama-aside/
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
March 29th, 2012
2:36 pm
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:45 pm
maybe we should let the investigators do their job and make a decision to prosecute based on the actual evidence
And where was this sentiment when it came to the first investigators – the Sanford Police Department?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/27/1078334/-Homicide-detective-wanted-George-Zimmerman-charged-with-manslaughter-but-prosecutors-said-no
Paul
March 29th, 2012
2:36 pm
Thulsa
“Hard to speculate on what a McCain presidency would have been like. I consider him to be a rino considering the presidential debates. Its a hypothetical that is kind of useless to pursue except that I things would be much better”
Yes, it is difficult to speculate on what a McCain administration would have done differently to avoid adding trillions in new debt as a result of the recession, but not useless.
Fact is, those who lambast Obama would in all likelihood have nearly the same situation, give or take a trillion, under a Republican administration.
It became apparent a few months into the new administration the crisis was broader and deeper than initially thought. None of the classical responses would have made much difference. Millions were out of work, receipts were down, obligations were up.
So I can understand the concern over the debt. But I also realize people are being ignorant or dishonest if they assert it would have been much different under a Republican administration.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
2:36 pm
“I never have cared for Newt but I cannot be alone in craving information- not politicized “journalism”
Then do to the news pages and not the OPINION pages.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
2:37 pm
Becky
March 29th, 2012
2:36 pm
Thulsa-you know it is true. Man up and admit McCain would have us entrenched in war before the inauguration balls were over.
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Come on Becky, that’s just silly. That’s as goofy as the garbage the right post about President Obama. Stick to the facts, there are enough Republican goofs and screw ups without making stuff up.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
2:38 pm
I was wondering how long it would take for one of his slimy Republican pals to come to his defense.
Two minutes.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
2:38 pm
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
2:36 pm
“I never have cared for Newt but I cannot be alone in craving information- not politicized “journalism”
Then do to the news pages and not the OPINION pages.
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I know right? What is wrong with the people who post here with that stuff. Jay is CLEARLY listed in OPINION lol.
Mick
March 29th, 2012
2:39 pm
doom
Playing the w. bush card is always a good bet, it’s the nightmare that keeps haunting. As far as the futures, since it is a world market, everyone needs to work together to keep the speculators out of it rather than vice versa.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
2:40 pm
Fred-McCain loves nothing more than sending men and women into war. He voted time and again to keep going in Iran and for what? He longs to extend the war in Afghanistan. Why would he change once elected, God forbid.
William
March 29th, 2012
2:40 pm
“I was wondering how long it would take for one of his slimy Republican pals to come to his defense.”
“Getting other people angry by calling them names is not exactly a sophisticated skill set…Most first-graders have mastered it. Most also outgrow it, evidence on this blog notwithstanding.” – Jay Bookman on 3/29/2012
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
2:41 pm
“Getting other people angry by calling them names ”
“Republican” is calling someone “names”?
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
2:41 pm
Paul,
My point is simple. That putting ever more people on medicaid is an enormous financial burden whether the states or the feds are paying for it. Are you denying that adding millions to the medicaid rolls would not cost substantial sums of money?
When you say come on you know better than that what are you referencing? – my response to the hypothetical about a McCain presidency or something else?
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
2:42 pm
Thulsa: What Paul said. I also wonder what would have happened had Hitlery been elected. While I despised her for her first two terms as President, I came to see that she really learned how to compromise and became more of a “stateswomen.”
Unfortunately, I don’t see Romney as a “better” alternative to what we have given the kooky way the Republicans are already acting.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
2:44 pm
How come I can’t get a SINGLE ONE of the damned landscape companies I have contacted to call me back? Anyone got a good one? I have renters moving in a property I’m looking after and it needs some work………
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
March 29th, 2012
2:44 pm
Adam
March 29th, 2012
1:52 pm
IF the Fed gov’t can mandate that a citizen purchase a product from a private company, then you can’t HONESTLY say that from now UNTIL the end of time they won’t/can’t do it again with another product.
And you can’t honestly say they didn’t already have that power affirmed through previous SCOTUS rulings. – Please point out where I said that.
So, that means you can’t HONESTLY say in response to the question “what else can/will the gov’t mandate a pvt citizen to purchase”
Ah, but it wasn’t “can/will,” it was just “will.” Had can been in there I would have said they “can”, but I don’t think they will, because they haven’t since the 1942 case of Wickard v. Filburn. – What about the ACA? Isn’t there something in there MANDATING a private citizen to purchase a product from a private company?
William
March 29th, 2012
2:44 pm
““Republican” is calling someone “names”?”
Have a dictionary handy? Look up “slimy”.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
2:45 pm
It will be interesting to see if any other Republicans here choose to weigh in on that filthy post by RB.
And whether they have the courage to denounce it or do the Towncrier instead…
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
2:48 pm
Calling someone offensive or repulsive when they are, is now calling names?
So be it…
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
2:49 pm
“McCain loves nothing more than sending men and women into war.”
More of Becky’s absurd rhetoric and hyperbole. I guess she can peer straight into McCain’s heart and see that he just loooooves sending soldiers to their deaths. He just loves it! So was Becky born with this magical ability to read people’s minds or did she develop it later in life? Inquiring minds want to know.
St Simons - we're on Island time
March 29th, 2012
2:50 pm
“Republican” is calling someone “names”?”
Have a dictionary handy? Look up “slimy”
i believe a thesaurus is the book you’re thinking of
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
2:50 pm
Jamvet@2:45: I doubt it. I have been very disappointed and to be honest, shocked, by the Republicans here on the whole issue. It just seems so clear cut to me. Hell even Boortz agrees. Murder 2 (2nd degree murder), point blank.
John Birch
March 29th, 2012
2:51 pm
Becky – and the branch of government that has the constitutional authority to pass a budget and declare war is??? But I’ll give Clinton his due; he was wise enough to work with the Republican congress. It’s the last time we had anything approaching bi-partisan politics, and we’re all the worse for the ensuing polarization as comments on this blog make clear every day!.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
2:52 pm
Thulsa-McCain has said over and over how much he loves war. That is all he knows, there is not a shred of diplomacy in him. He is all rank cowboy. Doesn’t take a mind reader to see what is in front of them.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
2:52 pm
Keep. If he attacked Z he’s guilty of assault.
Was that really that hard you couldn’t figure it out yourself?
oblama
March 29th, 2012
2:52 pm
Becky – I’m not a Mac supporter but he has never started a war. He did fight with honor in a war the Dem President, Lyndon B. Johnson, started – called Vietnam. You should appreciate the fact that he fought for his country with great sacrifice – no matter what party he is in.
Paul
March 29th, 2012
2:53 pm
Thulsa
The ‘come on’ was in reference to the answer that the feds will take over the majority of the Medicare payments for the states. Current fed debt situation does not change that.
I always like to look at how cost arguments are structured. In brief (as I’m working under two deadlines) I’ve a feeling what’s being counted as a ‘new’ cost under Obamacare is nothing more than reclassifying costs that are already being incurred but paid for by someone else. Simple, simple example is people with no insurance have huge amounts written off and/or absorbed by others. Now that those costs are going to be tracked under Medicare, people act as if it’s something new that never before existed.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
2:53 pm
“Look up “slimy”.”
Slimy is an adjective, not a noun. A “name” is a noun, not an adjective.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
2:55 pm
I know McCain’s history, I also think his time as a prisoner angered him beyond repair. He is a scary little man.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
2:55 pm
“I guess she can peer straight into McCain’s heart and see that he just loooooves sending soldiers to their deaths. ”
I’m not sure if Becky can or can’t do what is stated, but I remember Bush looking into Putin’s eye
“I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue.
“I was able to get a sense of his soul. ”
Now that was good stuff
During the 08 election, McCain was asked about what Bush said and he replied “I looked into Putin’s eyes and say KGB”
hahahahahaha……… that was even funnier
Paul
March 29th, 2012
2:55 pm
Fred
You may want to make a couple calls to homeowners’ associations/management companies in your area and ask them who does their landscaping.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
2:55 pm
Fred,
I despise Hillary as a pathological liar. But personal weaknesses aside there is no question she would have been much better than O. She has more of a pragmatist streak in her and I think Bill would have advised her greatly. She learned a lot from his presidency and I think that gave her much more competency for the job than O who was the single most unqualified man to ever attain the job.
As for Romney my only fear is that he will govern as a RINO and try to be like W in pleasing everyone all the time and wanting to be liked too much. When you look at W he actually added a lot of social spending that people don’t realize. My fear is that Romney would do the same. I like Romney much better than O though because he at least understands private enterprise and the undue burden that Obama’s regulatory environment is placing on business.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
2:56 pm
I don not understand this William character, Fred.
This is the second time in two days that he has waded in to a discussion and had a golden opportunity to denounce garbage – perverse garbage – from one of his ideological buddies here, and has chosen instead to play philosopher.
I don’t think he has it in him to just flat out say that that filth should not stand unchallenged…
William
March 29th, 2012
2:56 pm
“It will be interesting to see if any other Republicans here choose to weigh in on that filthy post by RB. And whether they have the courage to denounce it or do the Towncrier instead…”
Actually, I didn’t even read his original post – I just saw your angry response to part of it with your typical venomous accusations of racism. Since you accused me of the same yesterday, on the basis of flawed reasoning (you thought I started talking about dress in response to Trayvon’s shooting when it was actually in response to Congressman Rush’s actions) and without any real proof (though I challenged you to go through my posts and find it – to out up or shut up), I think I am starting to see a pattern that is disturbing.
The statement you quoted from RB didn’t in and of itself strike me as racist, but as callous. I will tell you this: if you don’t stop this unwarranted inquisition, I am going to bring the matter up to Jay and the AJC. Cease and desist.
John Birch
March 29th, 2012
2:57 pm
Dems don’t like war because they don’t like the deaths of all those innocent Vietnamese, Iraqis. etc. But they’re okay with the deaths of the truly innocent, the unborn!
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
2:58 pm
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
2:52 pm
Keep. If he attacked Z he’s guilty of assault.
Was that really that hard you couldn’t figure it out yourself?
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How so? Under the stand your ground law he had a RIGHT to defend himself from a threatening stalker.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
2:59 pm
They BOTH suck,
W trusted Putin or thought he could anyway. Obama simply capitulates to the man. He flat out caved and bailed on the poles and the Czechs on the missile defense issue. We gave something up for nothing in abandoning 2 countries yearning to be allied with us. O is perceived as weak. And he is.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
3:00 pm
Well Thulsa-you will get your wish then. Clinton 2016!!!!!
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
3:00 pm
“I also think his time as a prisoner angered him beyond repair.”
While prone to get angry at times, you have no evidence that his anger wasn’t part of his personality before he was a prisoner of war .
While not being a fan of the majority of his politics, Senator McCain has served this country very well and has even worked on several issues with his good friend and liberal Democrat, Senator John Kerry
Mick
March 29th, 2012
3:00 pm
** O who was the single most unqualified man to ever attain the job.**
I think the previous guy takes that prize…
independent thinker
March 29th, 2012
3:01 pm
Gasbag ran out of gas and imploded; how is he going to pay the Tiffany’s bill and hairdresser’s bill and the clothing bill for his paramour/wife. I guess time to write some more nonsensical books.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
3:01 pm
The statement you quoted from RB didn’t in and of itself strike me as racist, but as callous. I will tell you this: if you don’t stop this unwarranted inquisition, I am going to bring the matter up to Jay and the AJC. Cease and desist.
MOMMY!!!!!!!!!! HE TOUCHED ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE WON’T STAY ON HIS HALF OF THE ROOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
3:01 pm
…if you don’t stop this unwarranted inquisition, I am going to bring the matter up to Jay and the AJC.
Ooooooh!
JamVet Torquemada?
Huge LOL.
Even though twice it was you who interjected your nose into the discussion. I never sought your input. (Take a hint, I don’t give a damn about it.)
Don’t like the heat? Get the hell out of the kitchen. Or go cry to mommy.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
3:02 pm
Sen. McCain fell off the wagon when he chose Palin as vp. That was the end of him.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
3:02 pm
TD
So exactly in real terms; not what could, might, maybe happen…… tells us all how Poland is in trouble today because of Obama’s decision
Are they under a military threat? Are Russian troops at their border? Tell us man
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
March 29th, 2012
3:03 pm
William
March 29th, 2012
2:40 pm
“I was wondering how long it would take for one of his slimy Republican pals to come to his defense.”
“Getting other people angry by calling them names is not exactly a sophisticated skill set…Most first-graders have mastered it. Most also outgrow it, evidence on this blog notwithstanding.” – Jay Bookman on 3/29/2012
_____________________________________________________________________________ polite golf clap
Mick
March 29th, 2012
3:04 pm
**He flat out caved and bailed on the poles and the Czechs on the missile defense issue. We gave something up for nothing in abandoning 2 countries yearning to be allied with us. O is perceived as weak. And he is**
More doomy bullshipping, those missile systems were a poke in the eye to the russians, we don’t need them and the russians are not the problem these days. Europe can take of europe me thinks, we are a bit stretched and broke, don’t you keep reminding us of that? Also, if you think so highly of hillary, don’t you think she has advised obama as a cabinet member. Jeesh, you are really off balance today, get with it…
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
3:04 pm
Becky
March 29th, 2012
2:55 pm
I know McCain’s history, I also think his time as a prisoner angered him beyond repair. He is a scary little man.
She knows McCain’s history. Hmmm. She must be his biographer I reckon. Sooo his time as a POW angered him beyond repair? Hmmm. Seems Becky is also a psychiatrist on the side. “A scary little man”. So scary that 47% of America voted for such a “scary little man”. Gawd I hope I don’t have nightmares tonight of this scary little man. The boogey man was bad enough but apparently McCain is much scarier.
If anyone takes any kids camping this weekend be sure to scare them with some campfire stories about that scary little man John McCain.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
3:05 pm
Becky
March 29th, 2012
3:00 pm
Well Thulsa-you will get your wish then. Clinton 2016!!!!!
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Highly unlikely but possible. She will be 69 then. While it’s true that women live longer the Country has been trending away from older Presidents. Besides, in the last few cycles 8 years of one party has been enough for America.
Citizen of the World
March 29th, 2012
3:05 pm
The sad part is, Newt won’t even be able to retreat to his corner with the confidence that he tried to build a better, more positive, caring world. He will know that his true goal was self-aggrandizement and power, and that he failed in that goal, not in the goal of serving the greater good.
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
3:05 pm
Uh Oh. Looks like someone had a meltdown. Y’all are supposed to go easy on the cons. You know how fragile they are.
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
March 29th, 2012
3:05 pm
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
2:41 pm
“Republican” is calling someone “names”?
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Missed the “slimy” part, huh?
“I was wondering how long it would take for one of his slimy Republican pals to come to his defense.”
oblama
March 29th, 2012
3:06 pm
Laziness has nothing to do with Term Limits. What’s the difference between a President of the U.S. and a dictator? Term Limits. That’s why it’s in the Constitution. Sadam had rigged elections but he did not have term limits. There are a lot of little dictators in Congress that we need term limits for. I refuse to call you an idiot for saying you would abolish term limits for President – but you are illogical.
Paul
March 29th, 2012
3:07 pm
2:57 Okay, John Birch, I’ll bite.
Unborn what?
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
3:07 pm
TD
Obama like all Presidents can’t do everything for everybody when it comes to the military……….. I’m sure he was briefed by the top brass and civilians at the Pentagon as to what the overall strategy should be and how that would be accomplished in regards to Eastern Europe and the rest of the world……. Based on that he made a decision.
If you do not like it…… too bad
When I didn’t like something that Bush did I was told “elections have consequences”……
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
3:08 pm
Mick,
Is there anything you are right on today? I noticed you didn’t even attempt to respond after I took you to school on the oil and gas issue. As for the Poles and Czechs they felt abandoned by us and are now subject to Russian bullying and intimidation- courtesy of this weak ass appeaser.
I didn’t say that I thought highly of Hillary Mick. Reading comprehension is fundamental Mick. I said she was simply far more competent and qualified than O. Of course given his background of ZERO executive experience it wasn’t hard for her to be more qualified.
oblama
March 29th, 2012
3:08 pm
KOOL – is in the House! Yes I give Oblama full credit for keeping me off of viagra. Don’t think he a bad person: just a bad President.
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2012
3:08 pm
Based on the posts here, it seems that if Trayvon’s shooter had been black, few if any would be saying “justice for Trayvon”.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
3:09 pm
Thulsa-still a blow hard with no reasoning ability.
The ticket I would love because so many repub’s heads would explode is:
Clinton, Clinton, Clinton 2016
Hillary as Pres, Bill as VP, Chelsea as SOS
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
3:10 pm
RB: Keep. If he attacked Z he’s guilty of assault.
Wow, proved that all by yourself without any facts. The weakest of all claims, that Zimmerman followed someone completely innocent and only when Treyvon turned to “defend” himself and standing his ground, then Treyvon was “guilty.” Treyvon had no duty to retreat from his pursuer. If Treyvon did turn and stand his ground, then that too would be placed in evidence but despite your false claims and lies, even that has not been proven.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
3:10 pm
Taxpayer, I can just imagine the email he is crafting to Jay right now.
This will be a first. In all of the years that I’ve blogged here, I’ve never set one of them off to the point where they went running to the “authorities”.
I’m gonna put my hoodie on and start singing to Mr. William…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL9ihXiFAko
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
3:10 pm
“If you do not like it…… too bad”
And its too bad for the free world at large to see such a weak U.S. appeaser of a president. The man is the second coming of Neville Chamberlain.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
3:12 pm
The crap that gets slung here each and every day and now slimy tops the list?!
Gawd, I do love the power that my words apparently have over some of these people. (Nah, just kidding.)
It’s their hangup, not mine…
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
March 29th, 2012
3:12 pm
“How so? Under the stand your ground law he had a RIGHT to defend himself from a threatening stalker.”
Exactly….an ARMED stalker
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
3:12 pm
“Chelsea as SOS”
Need I say more about the kookiness of liberals?
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
3:13 pm
TD
Waiting to hear something besides hypotheticals and talking pts in regards all this duress that the Poles are currently under…
That is the case, right?
William
March 29th, 2012
3:13 pm
From the Visitor Agreement:
“Specific Prohibited Uses. Without limiting the foregoing, we may immediately terminate your use of any Communications Service if you engage in any of the following prohibited activities:
• Uploading, posting, emailing, transmitting or otherwise making available any content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, libelous, or obscene…”
I will see this through, JV, if you don’t cease and desist. I WILL not be falsely accused by you here. And Fred, I would watch it.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
3:13 pm
See-your head is already exploding! Love it!!!!
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
3:14 pm
“What’s the difference between a President of the U.S. and a dictator? Term Limits”
The difference is ELECTIONS, not term limits.
Contrarian
March 29th, 2012
3:14 pm
Romney, Santorum, Gingrich or Paul as POTUS?
Need we say more about the kookiness of Regressives?
Soothsayer
March 29th, 2012
3:14 pm
UK police ask gas stations to close after fuel panic-buying
LONDON – Government warnings that motorists should stock up at the pump ahead of a threatened strike by British fuel tanker drivers prompted scattered outbreaks of panic buying Thursday.
Damned lorrie drivers!
Adam
March 29th, 2012
3:15 pm
That Black Guy: It was mandated that Filburn purchase any wheat in excess of his allotment from other private companies that were selling wheat.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
3:15 pm
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
2:53 pm
“Look up “slimy”.”
Slimy is an adjective, not a noun. A “name” is a noun, not an adjective.
Liberal kook strategy # 1- When you can’t own up to your BS just resort to semantics and word games.
Mick
March 29th, 2012
3:15 pm
doomy
Legendary lib slayer in his own mind, you have schooled me on nothing, zero point zero, nada, zip. Same old, same old from doomy always the guy on the blog declaring himself a WINNER, that just doesn’t make it so! Yes, what the world needs now is more missiles, right? Another provocative move left over from the previous failed regime or are you claiming them to be winners like yourself?
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
3:16 pm
I didn’t vote for McCain and his choice for VP was totally irresponsible but he deserves credit as the ONLY republican with enough stones and integrity to stand up the “Obama is a Muslim” crowd.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
3:16 pm
Thulsa-why are you so angry and unhappy all the time? Lighten up dude.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
3:17 pm
Becky
March 29th, 2012
3:13 pm
See-your head is already exploding! Love it!!!!
Recon declared that he must have been talking to a juvenile. Looks like he was right.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
3:18 pm
Mick,
Your submission is duly noted. As usual it was expected anyway.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
3:20 pm
Becky,
Hell I’m happier than a pig in mud. And calmer than a Hindu cow. I’m just having fun with you.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
3:22 pm
Cease and Desist.
The new Hope and Change.
You’re right TP, cleanup on aisle three.
I can’t remember which of the 1950s gang here went off on deriding algae power for a few days, but here’s some interesting info for the non-Luddites here.
Imagine zipping from Paris to Tokyo in less than three hours, on a plane powered by all-natural seaweed. That’s the premise of aircraft manufacturer EADS’s Zero Emission Hyper Sonic Transport (ZEHST).
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2012/technology/1203/gallery.coolest-tech-2015/6.html
Paul
March 29th, 2012
3:25 pm
Thulsa
“Mick, Your submission is duly noted.”
You may want to reconsider using ’submission’ in light of your previous posts….
Just sayin’ People might start wonderin’ about ya’
[[“Doomy out. Be back later to see if just one liberal can give me an answer to my 5:30 question about self defense.”
Well Doomy, I think people have been avoiding your question for a most obvious reason.
“If someone is mounted on me and pounding my head into concrete and breaking my nose when do I get to defend myself or “stand my ground”. ”
Most juries would think you knew what you were getting into when you paid good money to go in one of those clubs and get mounted..
And would tell you, next time, don’t forget the safe word….]]
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 29th, 2012
3:26 pm
Well, last nite I watched that tape of Zimmerman at the killing scene and at the police station. And all I got to say is, he’s the only man in history with clear, dry blood. I looked at that red jacket and it was so clean it looked like he just picked it up at a dry cleaners. There was no wet spot on it, front or back. And he never swole up at all from that broke nose. There was no mark or swelling on his face—not a cut anyplace.
Now I’m just a redneck, but it seems to me somebody’s lying. Even I know that if you get cut on the head or your nose starts bleeding, it’s going to bleed all over the place. And if you get get a broke nose, you’re going to bleed like a stuck pig and start swelling up.
The police report says he got a broke nose and a cut on his head. If that police report is right, Zimmerman’s the only man in the history of the world with clear blood that’s dry. And that red jacket looked plenty dry in the back to me. It must be my lyin’ eyes. Either that or somebody done the best cleanup job in history in 5 or 10 minutes.
This Zimmerman don’t want me on his jury,
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
3:27 pm
Doomy, as a kid who grew up in a farming community in Kansas, I feel obligated to correct a huge stereotype.
Pigs do not like living in filthy conditions.
Who ever said pigs were dirty?? Actually, they are clean. The reason some people think they are dirty is due to the fact pigs like to roll in the mud. but, they like this mainly in the hot summer months. By rolling in the mud, this cools them off. Pigs are extremely sensitive to heat and can suffer from sunburn and heat stroke just like a person can. Wading in water and mud helps keep the pigs from getting over heated, also helps control parasites.
But, again, pigs do not like being in the mud 24 hours a day.
If fresh straw is put in their house (which it should be) they keep their house very clean, they do not urinate or defecate in their house. So straw in their house will last quite a while. In fact, pigs prefer to sleep on clean dry straw at night.
I get upset when I see people putting pigs in dirty muddy houses, Pigs DO NOT like this.
http://www.sybilsden.com/caresheet/pigs.htm
As Paul Harvey used to say, now you know……………..the rest of the story!
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
3:28 pm
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2012
12:17 pm
Fred – 11:35
Both of these young men were black. Both were teenagers. Both were unarmed. Both were shot dead. The shooters in each case claim they acted in self defense. Both are survived by grieving parents. What is this “vain attempt to make them equal” you speak of?
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Sorry Carlos, didn’t mean to leave you hanging:
The DIFFERENCE is that in the case here in Atlanta, there is a clear cut view of what happened. The difference is that here in Atlanta, 2 men were IMMEDIATELY detained, questioned and charged. The difference here in Atlanta is that the two WERE security guards, shots WERE being fired from the house. Dude, there is NOTHING similar in the two cases. Have you lost your ever loving mind lol?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 29th, 2012
3:28 pm
Inquisition? Did somebody say inquisition?
I have heard it said that nobody expects it….
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
3:30 pm
Becky
March 29th, 2012
3:09 pm
The ticket I would love because so many repub’s heads would explode is:
Clinton, Clinton, Clinton 2016
Hillary as Pres, Bill as VP, Chelsea as SOS
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That’s just stupid. In what way is Chelsea qualified to be SecState? Also, is there a law that says a former President can’t serve in office anymore or is that just a tradition?
William
March 29th, 2012
3:31 pm
“Also, is there a law that says a former President can’t serve in office anymore or is that just a tradition?”
Neither.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
3:33 pm
“Also, is there a law that says a former President can’t serve in office anymore or is that just a tradition?”
Term limit is 2 terms…period. Not 2 consecutive terms, 2 terms total.
Boris Badnoff
March 29th, 2012
3:33 pm
New careers beginning in 2013. New Gingrich, Secretary of State for President Romney. Jay Bookman, Press Secretary for Anthony Weiner.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
3:34 pm
Fred. I haven’t smeared anybody friend. I have no idea what happened that night and neither do you. Your reading comprehension needs some serious help.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
3:34 pm
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
3:10 pm
Taxpayer, I can just imagine the email he is crafting to Jay right now.
This will be a first. In all of the years that I’ve blogged here, I’ve never set one of them off to the point where they went running to the “authorities”.
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Really? I wasn’t here 6 month’s before I had it happen. More than one lol. DaveR was especially mad.
These old dudes that like to spout off but can’t take it back do it all the time. But then I’m also more blunt than you are lol. Well maybe not more blunt, maybe “pithier’ would be a good term.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
3:36 pm
Granny, did you notice that Torquemada’s minions all wore hoodies?!
Not sure if you say this link that I posted earlier today…
http://tinyurl.com/6uowzbh
William
March 29th, 2012
3:36 pm
“Term limit is 2 terms…period. Not 2 consecutive terms, 2 terms total.”
I didn’t think he was referring to the presidential office, D.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
3:36 pm
“DaveR was especially mad”
Yeah, but he doesn’t really count. He spent most of his time here trying to get everyone mad at him. We finally got tired of it and quit playing.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
3:37 pm
But, again, pigs do not like being in the mud 24 hours a day.
So that just leaves republicans huh.
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2012
3:38 pm
Fred
They are very similar. Both young black males. Both unarmed. Both shot by people claiming self defence. Both dead.
Shots were fired in the house, but not at the guards. Both guards were arrested, but later released. As for being “clear cut”, that is far from the truth in both cases.
If you went up to Ervin’s grieving parents and said “there is NOTHING” similar in the two cases”, what do you think they would say?
Please tell me the fact that Trayvon’s shooter was Hispanic-white and Ervin’s was black is not part of your logic in this.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
3:39 pm
As for the Poles and Czechs they felt abandoned by us and are now subject to Russian bullying and intimidation- courtesy of this weak ass appeaser
We are not the policeman of the world. The Poles and Czechs have their OWN military. Let them build missles and aim them at Russia; we need to build roads right here in America and fix a few bridges too.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
3:41 pm
William
March 29th, 2012
3:13 pm
From the Visitor Agreement:
“Specific Prohibited Uses. Without limiting the foregoing, we may immediately terminate your use of any Communications Service if you engage in any of the following prohibited activities:
• Uploading, posting, emailing, transmitting or otherwise making available any content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, libelous, or obscene…”
I will see this through, JV, if you don’t cease and desist. I WILL not be falsely accused by you here. And Fred, I would watch it.
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Yeah I know you would, but I won’t. I don’t knuckle under to your bullying threats. I say what I want when I want. They can (and have) deny me posting privileges from this site but they and YOU cannot and WILL NOT stop me from saying whatever the hell I think and want to say.
So now you are threatening ME because I pointed out you were acting like a little boy telling mommy? I am SO scared………. and you are so pathetic.
What is ABUSIVE is you threatening me for no reason there Sport. What is OBSCENE is your attempts at thought control.
Until this very moment when you included my in your childish little tantrum, I don;t think you and i have had a cross word. YOU are the one who needs to back off and quit harassing ME. Quit being ABUSIVE to me. Quit threatening ME.
Maybe I should report YOU eh?
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
3:43 pm
“We are not the policeman of the world.”
Boy, if we could only remember that.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 29th, 2012
3:44 pm
JamVet
Jesus looks FABULOUS in a hoodie.
But he didn’t have to worry about his hairdo going flat.
Men have is soooooo easy.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
carlosgvv: You are either uninformed or being deliberately obtuse. Either way, I have no desire to waste any more time with you on this issue.
“According to reports they were fired upon from Ervin’s residence by his step-father, Bobby Hubbard Jr., 35, was also arrested and charged with “reckless conduct and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon,” reports the AJC.”
The young man was caught in the cross fire. It’s sad, but it happens. Charges WERE brought on the Security folks. Witnesses WERE there and WERE interviewed. There is nothing similar in the two cases.
Have a good evening.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
“Maybe I should report YOU eh?”
And remember, no matter what either of you thinks, it is JAY who is the final arbiter.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
RB: I have no idea what happened that night and neither do you.
Well if you have no idea, you are not paying attention. We do have undisputed facts and disputed contentions from one side. There are witness statements. There is 911 evidence, video evidence and other evidence of a number of items. And we have an initial police investigation that concluded with a recommendation to prosecute. We know a lot about this case. What we don’t know is what will be presented at a trial and how a jury will view it.
Funny thing how “objective” you have become. I am sure you will do the same when making claims in other areas. I haven’t seen it.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
3:46 pm
William
March 29th, 2012
3:31 pm
“Also, is there a law that says a former President can’t serve in office anymore or is that just a tradition?”
Neither.
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Then why do former Presidents not hold any office after they are done being President?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
Based on the posts here, it seems that if Trayvon’s shooter had been black, few if any would be saying “justice for Trayvon”.
BUllCrap! A few years earlier Kathryn Johnston, elderly black female, was gunned down in her own home by APD’s Drug Unit; the majority of the unit is BLACK, perhaps you must’ve missed the demonstrations and public outcries on her behalf, but they were all over the local news and papers.
You’re making FALSE generalizations. That’s unworthy of you.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
So that just leaves republicans huh.
DF, watch it! The blog police will waterboard you for libelous and harmful………… something or other.
LOL.
Something not so humorous…
WASHINGTON — Global warming is leading to such severe storms, droughts and heat waves that nations should prepare for an unprecedented onslaught of deadly and costly weather disasters, an international panel of climate scientists said in a new report issued Wednesday.
The greatest threat from extreme weather is to highly populated, poor regions of the world, the report warns, but no corner of the globe — from Mumbai to Miami — is immune. The document by a Nobel Prize-winning panel of climate scientists forecasts stronger tropical cyclones and more frequent heat waves, deluges and droughts.
In the past, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, founded in 1988 by the United Nations, has focused on the slow inexorable rise of temperatures and oceans as part of global warming. This report by the panel is the first to look at the less common but far more noticeable extreme weather changes, which lately have been costing on average about $80 billion a year in damage.
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/mumbai-miami-on-list-1400454.html
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
“Yeah I know you would, but I won’t. I don’t knuckle under to your bullying threats. I say what I want when I want. They can (and have) deny me posting privileges from this site but they and YOU cannot and WILL NOT stop me from saying whatever the hell I think and want to say.”
You were already warned by Jay just two days ago, bud. So go ahead – say whatever the h*** you think and want to say. But to falsely and repeatedly accuse me of something as JV has done (he very much seems to like tagging political opponents as racist), then see what happens.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
Then why do former Presidents not hold any office after they are done being President?
If you held one of the highest offices in the world; anything else would be a step down.
oblama
March 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
Becky – Off your Prozac again? If you need a refill I will be glad to call it in for you.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
Paul,
I enjoyed that post. Pretty funny. As for Mick he knows I’m just messin with him.
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
“Then why do former Presidents not hold any office after they are done being President?”
Do some research and you’ll find that your question is based on a false assumption.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
“Then why do former Presidents not hold any office after they are done being President”
Maybe because they don’t want to?
St Simons - we're on Island time
March 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
Newt’s political career at an end? ah, you forget –
He’s Transformational! but what will he transform into?
Christine O’Donnell already wants his eye for something.
he’s not through, oh no sir. This is goin all the way to the Jerry Springer
Show, mon. The Base can catch him all day in syndication.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
3:53 pm
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
“Maybe I should report YOU eh?”
And remember, no matter what either of you thinks, it is JAY who is the final arbiter.
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Not always DGG. But I wouldn’t “report” him. hell, I’ll forget about it in an hour lol. I don’t hold grudges.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
Help, I’m being repressed! See the violence inherent in the system!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS_1bzaj2fw
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
“hell, I’ll forget about it in an hour lol. I don’t hold grudges.”
Yeah, well it’s usually not even neccessary to report anyone. I had a stalker here once who tried hard to find my address so he could post it, and was dumb enough to say so. I don’t know if Jay actually banned him…but he disappeared by the next day and as far as I know never came back.
oblama
March 29th, 2012
3:58 pm
Dog – Saddam and Hitler, among many other dictators, held rigged elections – they were still dictators. Term limits are in the Constitution to keep a sitting President, with the help of the military, from rigging the election and staying in power as a dictator. Why is this so difficult for you to understand. Elections don’t keep someone from being a dictator – term limits do. Be man/woman enough to admit when you are wrong.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
3:59 pm
owncrier
March 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
“Yeah I know you would, but I won’t. I don’t knuckle under to your bullying threats. I say what I want when I want. They can (and have) deny me posting privileges from this site but they and YOU cannot and WILL NOT stop me from saying whatever the hell I think and want to say.”
You were already warned by Jay just two days ago, bud. So go ahead – say whatever the h*** you think and want to say. But to falsely and repeatedly accuse me of something as JV has done (he very much seems to like tagging political opponents as racist), then see what happens.
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Well first off I WON’T point out the typos in that bolded part but moving right along……..
When have I done that? All I did was laugh AT you for your childish “he touched me” rant. I’m STILL laughing. I’d laugh in the future were it to happen again. I would have laughed at you in the PAST had it happened before. Lighten up Frances.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B65mtE2TN1w
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
4:00 pm
“Why is this so difficult for you to understand. Elections don’t keep someone from being a dictator – term limits do. Be man/woman enough to admit when you are wrong.”
Robert Byrd was not a dictator. A former Klansman (and good ole southern Democrat), yes, but not a dictator.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
4:01 pm
JamVet,
Well now just you hold on their Mr. Kansas farmboy. I never insulted pigs. I just said I was happier than a pig in mud in deference to the fact that they do like to cool off in the summer by wallowing in mud to cool their skin. Same with other animals like elephants.
I got lots a relatives in upstate New York and Michigan who own farms so I knows a little bit about farming myself. Though not that much. Plus I feed the jackass and 2 goats that back up to my house so I’m right comfortable with farm critters. My little brother has his own ranch in Alabama raising cattle for beef. Spent a weekend out there putting up fencing on 40 acres of property. Hard damn work. Took all weekend. Doomy got some country in him.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
4:01 pm
“Dog – Saddam and Hitler, among many other dictators, held rigged elections – they were still dictators”
Right…becuase their countries did not have our Constitution, nor our contested elections. It is elections that separate our Presidents from Dictators. FDR was ELECTED President 4 times. He was never a dictator.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
4:02 pm
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
“Then why do former Presidents not hold any office after they are done being President?”
Do some research and you’ll find that your question is based on a false assumption.
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Well if you know why don’t you just say instead of being an arrogant asshat? Wow. You really AREN’T worth the time it takes to respond to.
Report that.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
Then why do former Presidents not hold any office after they are done being President?
If you held one of the highest offices in the world; anything else would be a step down.
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Yeah but can you imagine the kick ass job George Bush (Herbet, not Herbert Walker) would have been? Can you imagine how much better for the Country it would have been for him to be advising his idiot son rather than just letting him run for 4 years on automatic lol?
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
“When have I done that?”
You haven’t.
“All I did was laugh AT you for your childish “he touched me” rant.”
Actually, if any thing, I thought your response to my post was extremely “childish” – you know, imitating a child, all in caps with uncounted exclamation marks. So, since I was already a little peeved, you feel into the crosshairs. That sort of thing doesn’t normally bother me. I take it back and apologize. We cool.
But I am curious: since you have admitted you are not young and have already been booted, why persist in making edgy posts?
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
“Can you imagine how much better for the Country it would have been for him to be advising his idiot son rather than just letting him run for 4 years on automatic lol?”
You’re making the assumption that the son would have listened to the father’s advice. I don’t think we can take it as a given that he would have.
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
4:08 pm
Geez, I go buy a CAN AM and we’re back to Zimmerman again. Ugh.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
JAMVET AND GRANNY: you two hit two of my all time favorite movies. History of the World part 1 (I wish he would have done another) and Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Thanks for the grins.
St Simons - we're on Island time
March 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
He also reiterated that he plans to continue his bid until Republican
National Convention in August.
“There is no agreement of any kind, and I plan to go all the way
to Tampa,” he told The (Liberal Rag) Washington (Moonie) Times.
Oh, 3 words to describe this – dee-li-cious
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
DebbieDoRight – 3:47
You’ve posted your outrage at Trayvon’s killing, but I haven’t seen one post here from you about Ervin’s killing. An you call ME unworthy? Hypocrite.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
Debbiedoright,
I think what the poster and other posters are saying in relation to the Trayvon shooting is that its a curious that the black community becomes so incensed and outraged over a shooting such as the Trayvon shooting or the Kathryn Johnston disaster.
In both cases the community is outraged over the cops and or a Hispanic man shooting an unarmed black person. The Johnson case was particularly horrible. But the point is that the black community doesn’t seem so outraged when its black on black murder.
As an example it was Booby rush who wore the hoodie in Congress the other day. He represents the soutside of Chicago where not even 2 weeks ago on St. Patties day there were 47 shooting, mostly black on black gang violence, and 13 or 14 people were killed including a 6 year old girl was killed when her house was sprayed with an AK 47. Seems kinda odd to me that Mr. Rush is so indignant and angry over a shooting 1500 miles away but doesn’t seem to give a damn about all these murders in southside Chicago in one weekend.
There’s something deeper at play in the black community when they are so passive about everyday black on black murder or black on white murder but are so outraged at the occasional white on black murder. Can you explain this?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
4:10 pm
I’m with DogGone — he probably TRIED to give him some advice but instead Dubya chose to be seduced to come over to the Dark SIDE….,.
[Cue really thrillling dark music and dark laughter and the sound of Darth Vader's breathing apparatus].
Oscar
March 29th, 2012
4:10 pm
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
“Can you imagine how much better for the Country it would have been for him to be advising his idiot son rather than just letting him run for 4 years on automatic lol?”
You’re making the assumption that the son would have listened to the father’s advice. I don’t think we can take it as a given that he would have.
_______
The fact is HW tried to give him advice but he would not listen. At one point at their house in Maine HW handed W a one page memo and asked him to at least read that. W folded it and burned it in the fireplace without reading it. That ended HWs attempts to give advice.
Paul
March 29th, 2012
4:10 pm
Thulsa
I knew you have a sense of humor -
Lots of folks take themselves waaaaayyyyyyy too seriously.
Misty Fyed
March 29th, 2012
4:12 pm
Well ” A man so easily distracted by shiny intellectual objects, ” beats a man who is incapable of grasping intellectual objects…leading us to 5 trillion more dollars in debt in 3 years time.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
4:12 pm
sheeeeettttttttttttssssssssssssssssss
pleassssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
oblama
March 29th, 2012
4:12 pm
Term Limits – you have no reasonable against therm – on to another subject. Jay will be back on racism soon – seems to rotate it in and out about once a week. Again, for those of you who missed it, “Oblama” is a term I coined to describe those who always blame the other party for everything that goes wrong and will no accept responsibility for THEIR policies,over many decades, that have led to the current debt crisis that has been rolling down hill like a tumble bug rolling his dung ball – getting larger and larger, increasing faster and faster – heading for disaster. Oblama is not a personal insult to the president but rather a call for him and all politicians in D.C. to accept responsibility for their irresponsibility.
Misty Fyed
March 29th, 2012
4:12 pm
But…Qualified or not…Newt was always Newts biggest enemy.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
4:12 pm
“W folded it and burned it in the fireplace without reading it.”
I’m not a bit surprised either.
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
4:13 pm
“Well if you know why don’t you just say instead of being an arrogant asshat? Wow. You really AREN’T worth the time it takes to respond to.”
Geez…look who needs to lighten up. Go look at your angry posts the last few pages see if you aren’t about as reactionary as they come on this blog. I wasn’t being arrogant. I just think a good amount of needless posts and far more informed things might be said if Google was used a bit more. I knew former presidents had held other offices, I just couldn’t remember who and what. So I looked it up and almost posted it. But then I said, nah, he should answer his own question. But no, to you I’m an arrogant a******. Get a grip, Fred.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
4:14 pm
But I am curious: since you have admitted you are not young and have already been booted, why persist in making edgy posts?
I’m me. I do what I do. What can I say. I have a low tolerance for stupidity and a rather brusque way of expressing myself.
I’m no different in “real life.”
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
4:14 pm
“you have no reasonable against therm”
Then why don’t we have them for any, every and ALL elected offices? And I don’t need a “reasonable” against them. It is my opinion, and I’ve never said otherwise.
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
4:17 pm
“There’s something deeper at play in the black community when they are so passive about everyday black on black murder or black on white murder but are so outraged at the occasional white on black murder. Can you explain this?”
Good post, TD. And DDR, while you are at it, explain how Spike Lee tweeting the address of whom he thought was Zimmerman (but was actually that of an innocent couple in their 70s) is NOT evidence of what TD is speaking of. Was he right to do that or was it an incitement to mob violence?
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
4:17 pm
I think what the poster and other posters are saying in relation to the Trayvon shooting is that its a curious that the black community becomes so incensed and outraged over a shooting such as the Trayvon shooting or the Kathryn Johnston disaster.
When the wheels of justice move as it should, why should there be any additional outrage? There were arrests made in the shooting by the security guards, there was an arrest made in the Jackson State shooting. The outrage from the Trayvon Martin incident came AFTER the authorities appeared they were going to try to sweep things under the rug, just as it was the case with Mrs. Johnson.
Instead of wondering why there isn’t outrage every time somebody’s shot, it would be much better to understand WHY the outrage is there in the first place. That would make things so much clearer….
oblama
March 29th, 2012
4:19 pm
Peep Peep Peep …. all this squabbling back and forth reminds me of “The House Wives of Beverly Hills”.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
4:19 pm
Afternoon Bro!
Rick
March 29th, 2012
4:20 pm
Jay. You summed it up masterfully. The Newtster is indeed a tragic figure. It’s very sad to watch him melt before our eyes. The curtain has been pulled back, and the master manipulator has been revealed for what he is: a narcisstic opportunist and pseudo intellectural whose steamboat vision simply became the victim of his rowboat ass.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
4:20 pm
I think what the poster and other posters are saying in relation to the Trayvon shooting is that its a curious that the black community becomes so incensed and outraged over a shooting such as the Trayvon shooting or the Kathryn Johnston disaster.
In both cases the community is outraged over the cops and or a Hispanic man shooting an unarmed black person. The Johnson case was particularly horrible. But the point is that the black community doesn’t seem so outraged when its black on black murder.
But that’s just ludicrous Doomy. In one case the police break down a womans door in the middle of the night and shoot her dead. In the other case, a couple of security guysrespond to shots fired, get fired upon and shoot a guy. In Trayvons case he is walking to the damn store to get some skittles and an Arizona tea and is stalked by some fat weirdo wannabe and killed.
How are those even remotely the same?
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
Once again the right/cons try to deflect. The Treyvon Martin case is news because no prosecution was taking place and because it calls into question a law which is being passed in many states and was the precise situation that legislators were warned about. Only the foolish make claims that some communities are not upset about other crimes. Address the injustice and then address the issues raised by the other cases.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
“The outrage from the Trayvon Martin incident came AFTER the authorities appeared they were going to try to sweep things under the rug, just as it was the case with Mrs. Johnson.”
Brocephus,
How did they try to “sweep things under the rug”. The lead investigator did not believe Z and referred it to the DA. The DA looked at it and according to the law decided that there just wasn’t enough evidence to secure a conviction. If he doesn’t think he can get a conviction based on current law then it is what it is-not much ya can do.
St Simons - we're on Island time
March 29th, 2012
4:27 pm
This Blast Email Just Released from Area 51 to all Republicans:
“In about six months or so, you will all have forgotten that Newt ever ran
for president to begin with. Any partial memories of this unfortunate event
you will assume to be the product of a bad dream, just like you do with
the years 2001-2009. That is all”
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
think what the poster and other posters are saying in relation to the Trayvon shooting is that its a curious that the black community becomes so incensed and outraged over a shooting such as the Trayvon shooting or the Kathryn Johnston disaster.
You are misinformed. What the black community is outraged over is the lack of police investigation. There should be some sort of investigation when a seemingly innocent person is shot down for no apparent reason. Be they black, white, gray or blue. But when there’s NO investigation, there is a perceived issue of a “coverup”. Something the black community has been victim of for decades.
In both cases the community is outraged over the cops and or a Hispanic man shooting an unarmed black person. The Johnson case was particularly horrible. But the point is that the black community doesn’t seem so outraged when its black on black murder.
Refer to my answer above. Also, please refer to my earlier post where I stated that the majority of the APD’s Drug Squad is BLACK.
As an example it was Booby rush who wore the hoodie in Congress the other day. ……………………… mostly black on black gang violence, and 13 or 14 people were killed ………………. Seems kinda odd to me that Mr. Rush is so indignant and angry over a shooting 1500 miles away but doesn’t seem to give a damn about all these murders in southside Chicago in one weekend.
There are NUMEROUS “Stop The Violence” campaigns in every State in America. The problem is most media outlets don’t cover those as aggressively as they cover everything else. You don’t hear about the 100 Black Men of Atlanta’s “Stop The Violence” Rallies, but you DO hear about people being killed. You don’t hear about the Black Churches going into the community and trying to curb the violence within our own communities; but you do hear about that. You only hear about the bad things. You can pick a Black Church in the “hood”—any church, call then up; and ask them about what they’re doing about violence in the community; and 9 outta 10 times they have a program; a system, or something already in place.
There’s something deeper at play in the black community when they are so passive about everyday black on black murder or black on white murder but are so outraged at the occasional white on black murder. Can you explain this?
For my answer, please refer to the paragraph above.
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
4:30 pm
“Instead of wondering why there isn’t outrage every time somebody’s shot, it would be much better to understand WHY the outrage is there in the first place.”
Exactly. But someone not being arrested dose not explain Lee’s actions statements like those of Waters. One gets the sense there is a smoldering anger in many blacks that is unresolved. If that is the case, then they need to realize that only they have the power to resolve it. Incessant apologies and amends from whites who had nothing to do with past horrible evils will not resolve it. The KKK and all of its ilk was a terrorist organization, terrorizing not only black but many whites who had a conscience. It was almost as bad as Al Qaeda is today. But everyone is victimized in this life by someone. You don’t have to be black to be subjected to the evil actions of others. Women are raped, children are sexually or physically abused, people are maimed, etc.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
4:31 pm
Men have it soooooo easy.
Quit complaining granny, ya’ll live longer!
oblama
March 29th, 2012
4:33 pm
Jeeeezzzzzzz. No one said Robert Byrd was a dictator or did I miss something? In a way he was a kind of MOB power boss in West Virginia and in Congress. He sure got that Fed money to build the best highway system in the country through his state. He even blew holes right through mountains to get those tunnels right where he wanted them for his highways. Guess the environmentalist loved that? By the way a former President can run for ANY office but President. Most of them are giving speeches for millions and would have to take a pay cut.
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
4:35 pm
“Jeeeezzzzzzz. No one said Robert Byrd was a dictator or did I miss something?”
You missed something, I think. It’s called sarcasm.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
4:36 pm
Fred,
I don’t disagree with you. In the Johnson case its a clear cut example of police incompetence and just flat out mistakenly killing someone and then if I remember correctly trying to cover it up.
The Trayvon case is a little different. Z instigated things by following T and confronting him. At that point it changes and supposedly Z then walked away from T. At that point T allegedly attacked Z and was on top of him and according to an eyewitness was whupping his ass and pounding Z’s head into the concrete. And that’s when Z pulled his gun and shot T.
Sure Z instigated the whole thing but if he turned away it was then incumbent on T to also turn away and leave the scene. Allegedly he attacked Z which changes things. I dunno. Still a lot to go through. They will go through the 9/11 tapes, the gap in between the shot being fired and all that and maybe determine a little better if Z shot because he really was in fear of his life or if he just plain shot because he could.
And one last thing. No damn excuse for all the people calling up Z’s 70 year old parents and harassing them, sending them hate mail, calling in death threats, putting a bounty on Z’s head, etc. Or what happened to the folks whose address Spike Lee tweeted. This is shameful behavior and a mob behavior by a lot of people who just want blood. The people doing this including Sharpton, Lee, Jackson, etc. they don’t want justice. They want blood, vengeance, and in their views they have already up and decided its murder without any due process. They don’t even care to listen to the facts of the case and go through the process. There is little distinction between these people and the white lynch mobs that were murdering blacks 100 years ago.
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
March 29th, 2012
4:37 pm
“There should be some sort of investigation when a seemingly innocent person is shot down for no apparent reason. Be they black, white, gray or blue. But when there’s NO investigation”
__________________________________________________________________________
DDR, you do realize that the SPD recommended charges against Zimmerman right. It was the prosecutor declined to press charges?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/27/1078334/-Homicide-detective-wanted-George-Zimmerman-charged-with-manslaughter-but-prosecutors-said-no
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
4:38 pm
Thulsa, when you say the DA felt the case lacked evidence for a conviction you have to realize that the crime scene wasn’t adequately investigated. You’re not gonna have enough evidence if you don’t thoroughly investigate. If Trayvon had had a weapon then I might agree but with no weapon that should have raised red flags and promted a closer look.
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
4:39 pm
“DDR, you do realize that the SPD recommended charges against Zimmerman right. It was the prosecutor declined to press charges?”
And that is an interesting revelation. Hopefully the real truth will out through this process.
Joe Hussein Mama
March 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
Fred — “Then why do former Presidents not hold any office after they are done being President?”
I know that President Taft served as a Supreme Court justice after leaving office as President, but I can’t think of any other Presidents who served in other high offices after their time as Chief Executive. I imagine there might have been one or two who went back to the House or Senate, but that’s just a guess on my part.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
4:42 pm
“You are misinformed. What the black community is outraged over is the lack of police investigation’
As I understand it the police investigated and the lead detective, who didn’t believe Z, wanted the DA to prosecute if not for Murder 2 then for manslaughter. The DA looked at it and according to the law(stand your ground) he decided that there simply was not enough evidence for him to ever get a conviction. Not much more to say. If he knows he can’t get a conviction based on prevaling law then he just can’t and it just gets chalked up as a human tragedy.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
4:42 pm
You’ve posted your outrage at Trayvon’s killing, but I haven’t seen one post here from you about Ervin’s killing. An you call ME unworthy? Hypocrite.
Ervin’s killing had one very important thing that Trayvon’s didn’t.
An Investigation</b
I didn’t call you unworthy, I called your comment unworthy. Big difference? I don’t know you BUT I read your comment. Duh.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
4:43 pm
Funny all the Spike Lee poutrage…. you rarely hear the same condemnation when anti-abortionist do the same things or when those type tactics were used in Virginia. Amazing how indigent some can get about some things….only some of the time. I wonder what the real difference is. It must be that community that just can’t explain.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
“when you say the DA felt the case lacked evidence for a conviction you have to realize that the crime scene wasn’t adequately investigated. You’re not gonna have enough evidence if you don’t thoroughly investigate.”
Don’t forget,
That is your opinion sir. What do you base that on? I mean really. How do you yourself know how thoroughly or unthoroughly the investigation went? Were you there?
Joe Hussein Mama
March 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
Keep up — “Amazing how indigent some can get”
I am sure you mean ‘indignant,’ sir.
oblama
March 29th, 2012
4:48 pm
Speaking of the KKK, when I was in college in Americus, Georgia it was announced that the Grand Wizard and the KKK would come down from Alabama and have a rally outside of town to protest Jammy Codder running for President. I had been in Georgia most of my life and had never known anyone in the KKK. Out of curiosity I decided to go see what these Alabama KKK did at a rally, so my roommate and I drove up to the announced rally and watched from a distance. There were several State Patrol cars and the Sheriff’s car was there in case trouble erupted. The KKK had bleacher type seating in a circle around a fire in the middle. They were walking around the fire in their sheeted “garb” ranting and raving about something we couldn’t hear or understand very well – as they had no microphones. After about 15 minutes we got bored and left. That’s the only time in my life I actually saw a real KKK.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
4:48 pm
Doom – Lee is rich. Those 70 year old retirees probably aren’t. Lee will be really, really, NOT so rich when they take his azz to Civil Court. THAT’s how you get back at him.
If they wish to have him arrested, for defamation they can. But tweeting their address is not a crime; unless there is PROOF that violence was perpetrated against because of his actions. Even then, in Florida it’s a class C offense if he can prove that he didn’t know there would be violence directed against THEM; AND that he wasn’t purposely trying to harm THEM.
They should just sue him and take him for every dime he has.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
4:48 pm
joe, you are absolutely correct. so much for spelling.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
Good lord, Inspector Clousou (sp) could have done a better investigation. A car accident is better investigated than this killing
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
“Funny all the Spike Lee poutrage…. you rarely hear the same condemnation when anti-abortionist do the same things or when those type tactics were used in Virginia. Amazing how indigent some can get about some things….only some of the time. I wonder what the real difference is.”
In truth, I wasn’t aware of that. I am firmly against abortion rights as they exist now, but I am not “militant” about it (so I don’t follow news related to people who are). But you make a valid point. The outrage should be equal and so I am hereby expressing mine (though I don’t know the particulars). Does anyone here wish to defend these particular anti-abortionists? BTW, KU, did you mean “indignant”?
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
4:52 pm
Spike Lee f’d up big time. Not only was it irresponsible it wasn’t even the right family. He’s already apologized and he should know better. Those people’s lives are being turned upside down and they had nothing to do with it.
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
“They should just sue him and take him for every dime he has.”
Well, we all do very stupid things from time to time. I say if there was no real harm, then no foul. He should maybe do something to make amends (even if indirectly out of fear of “admitting” culpability), but I don’t want to see everything taken from him. Mercy triumphs over judgement. Hopefully he will learn a lesson (and everyone else too).
Jay
March 29th, 2012
4:55 pm
It was beyond stupid for Spike Lee to tweet that address, it was reprehensible.
The fact that it was the wrong address — that’s the merely stupid part.
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
4:57 pm
“Those people’s lives are being turned upside down and they had nothing to do with it.”
In his tweeted apology, Lee called off the proverbial dogs. And I would bet that, behind the scenes, he is doing everything he can to ensure everyone gets the message. I suspect their troubles are over.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
4:58 pm
Towncrier, its been done by the anti-abortion groups for years including family member info, protesting as schools of their children and more. Websites with all sorts of personal info about all sorts of people in the medical profession, landlords and other information.
In the late 1990s, an organization called American Coalition of Life Activists (ACLA) was accused of implicitly advocating violence by its publication on its “Nuremberg Files” website of wanted-style posters, which featured a photograph of a physician who performed abortions along with a monetary reward for any information that would lead to his “arrest, conviction, and revocation of license to practice medicine”.[49] The ACLA’s website described these physicians as war criminals[50] and accused them of committing “crimes against humanity”. The web site also published names, home addresses, telephone numbers, and other personal information regarding abortion providers—highlighting the names of those who had been wounded and striking out those of who had been killed. Dr. George Tiller’s name was included on this list along with many others. The site was accused of being a thinly-veiled hit list intended to incite violence; others claimed that it was protected under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.[51] A 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decision finally shut the site down in 2002 after a prolonged debate.[52] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#Physician_.22wanted.22_posters
This is not the only example. I am sure you can google more incidents including the NJ protest at a child’s school and there was I believe a political related case last year in VA with the wrong address of a candidate who’s brother’s home was sabotaged.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
4:58 pm
Doom you keep saying “Zimmerman said”…………..it’s utterly amazing to me.
Did you NOT see the video of him shortly after he was arrested that showed he didn’t have ANY blood on his clothing? No marks on his face, no grass stains, nada, zilch NOTHING?
I’m not a criminal defense person, BUT i do know that all interrogations are videotaped and i also know that if a possible suspect hurt during an investigation, the police MUST take the person to the E.R. to be checked out by a physician.
But it seems from the tapes that Zimmerman went “straight to the precint” to be questioned! If he was so hurt, why wasn’t he checked out and cleared at the hospital FIRST? That is common procedure. His injuries had to be documented so that they could be presented and labled as evidence.
What makes your whole but,but,but Zimmerman SAID…..defense so ridiculous is that you won’t even ENTERTAIN the thought that Zimmerman LIED.
He shot down some kid, found that the kid didn’t have a gun on him or any other weapon then he LIED to protect himself from prosecution.
Nope, for some reason you just can’t fathom a man with a past history of violence could actually LIE about being violent……..
I wonder why?
oblama
March 29th, 2012
5:01 pm
TownCrier – Sarcasm is as sarcasm does. It’s difficult to talk to a child like an adult. I guess I have to explain to you that a member of Congress is not in position to become a dictator but they can accumulate power for favors over a period of time like Byrd did. He brought in more pork to his state than anyone in the country. The longer these guys stay in Congress the more power entrenched they become. They act like dictators of their party in Congress. They are more concerned with getting reelected than doing what’s right for the country.
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
5:01 pm
Thanks for that, KU. That is pretty sick. Mob violence, pure and simple.
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
5:04 pm
“Sarcasm is as sarcasm does. It’s difficult to talk to a child like an adult. I guess I have to explain to you that a member of Congress is not in position to become a dictator but they can accumulate power for favors over a period of time like Byrd did. He brought in more pork to his state than anyone in the country. The longer these guys stay in Congress the more power entrenched they become. They act like dictators of their party in Congress. They are more concerned with getting reelected than doing what’s right for the country.”
Right. I am in agreement. In my original post, I was sarcastically attacking the idea there should be no terms limits for those in Congress. Wires have been crossed, it seems.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
5:04 pm
Debbiedoright,
I don’t think they should be able to sue Mr. Lee and take every dime of his because of one mistake he made when his emotions were running high.
But I do agree he should have to pay a price for that sort of recklessness. Regardless of the address being wrong the only reason Lee would tweet their address is so that people can direct hate mail, threatening phone calls, or physical harm to these old people. He knew that when he tweeted what he thought was their address. To me he’s everybit the racepimping hatemonger that I believe Al Sharpton to be. The situation has become heated precisely because of people like Lee and Sharpton. May cooler heads prevail.
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
5:07 pm
The lead investigator did not believe Z and referred it to the DA. The DA looked at it and according to the law decided that there just wasn’t enough evidence to secure a conviction.
When you take the word of someone over the preponderance of evidence, that has the appearance of sweeping things under the rug. As I stated earlier, when there are arrests, the wheels of justice appear to be working as they should. When someone refuses to even bring charges, that gives the family a bitter taste in their mouth.
Trust me. I’ve had that bitter taste before. I didn’t march or go to the media, but I’ve never forgotten who let my grandfather’s killer get off without as much as a citation for running a red light. My family had to swear out a warrant on the young lady just to get the police to arrest her too.
oblama
March 29th, 2012
5:07 pm
There are so many subjects being discussed here that I have almost forgotten that we are talking about Newt and Jay’s announcement that he is done. I haven’t heard Newt’ s “retirement speech yet.
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
5:08 pm
One gets the sense there is a smoldering anger in many blacks that is unresolved.
One sees whatever they choose to see. Things are not always what they appear to be. Instead of assuming things, wouldn’t it be more productive and/or prudent to ask what the motivations were?
oblama
March 29th, 2012
5:11 pm
T.C. – Really? O.K. Truce then?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
5:14 pm
If that is the case, then they need to realize that only they have the power to resolve it. Incessant apologies and amends from whites who had nothing to do with past horrible evils will not resolve it.
First – and AGAIN, I do not speak for ALL BLACK PEOPLE; I can only speak for ME.
I have nephews, cousins, brothers, etc. who are or will be a BLACK MAN in America and 3 of my brothers are police officers as well as having served in the military AND having served their community as community Advisors on their days off. My father and Grandfather served, my family has a HISTORY of service to America, and in my Grands case, served in a SEGRATED Military, (i know it’s probably spelled wrong, but I’m not even gonna bother to look it up — gotta get outta here in a few).
What I’m trying to say that we ARE AMERICANS. No one is looking for an APOLOGY from anyone, what we’re looking for is EQUAL JUSTICE.
If i had the time, I’d give the names of Black men gunned down in the past five years because “they looked threatening”; who had no weapon, no history of violence, were productive members of society; and yet they’re dead because of POLICE BRUTALITY and/or someone like Zimmerman seeing a threat in every black man’s face.
My own brother, a POLICE OFFICER, was off-duty and went to pick up his god child who lived in the hood to take him out somewhere for the day. He was stopped, by a local Drug Squad guy, made to lie face down on the ground; when he tried to tell him “Hey I’m a cop!” was hit over the head with he butt of the policeman’s gun and was a trigger pull away from being shot in the head. What saved him? The other cop found his badge in the car.
But my brother represents A LOT OF BLACK MEN who are seen as a threat FIRST; then later seen as a citizen.
that is a sad state in America. It’s no better than thinking every Muslim is a terrorist.
And as an aside, something similiar to that story happens to HISPANIC MALES everyday too. Maybe 2 years back this happened to a returning Gulf War Vet in California by a BLACK COP. And yes, Black people can pre judge too.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
“Did you NOT see the video of him shortly after he was arrested that showed he didn’t have ANY blood on his clothing? No marks on his face, no grass stains, nada, zilch NOTHING?”
First of all that video wasn’t close enough to really see anything. Secondly his lawyer said he did suffer a broken nose which you probably can’t tell from a video, adn thirdly his lawyer also detailed a laceration on the back of his head. Fourthly, I believe the police report itself states that he had grass stains on his back and if that’s true then we know for certain he was on his back. Fifthly it doesn’t matter if we don’t believe Z. An eyewitenss saw Trayvon on top of him beating him and Z was yelling help me, help me. The eyewitness testimony goes a long ways towards helping Z and it is kind of amazing to me how many people simply ignore what the eyewitness saw.
Anway, I’m going to hit the gym and then go drinking and hellraising tonight. Let’s hope no citizen cop messes with Doomy tonight. And that the cool heads continue to prevail in the trayvon shooting.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
5:19 pm
And don’t forget that Zimmerman’s father is a retired judge.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
5:20 pm
He knew that when he tweeted what he thought was their address.
Maybe. But can you PROOVE it? No. You can’t. That’s why a civil suit would hurt more — you don’t need a preponderance of evidence in a civil suit as you would in a criminal case.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
“Nope, for some reason you just can’t fathom a man with a past history of violence could actually LIE about being violent……..”
Debbidoright,
I’m perfectly willing to entertain the idea that Z lied. Are you likewise willing to entertain the idea that possibly he didn’t?
And it is quite possible that T attacked him. We have the eyewitnesss testimony and T wasn’t exactly an angel himself. He was there because of his 3rd suspension from school and in one of those suspensions he had a burglary tool and 12 pieces of women’s stolen jewelry including wedding bands, ear rings, etc.Turns out the kid was a burglar after all. Just not on that night.
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
“One sees whatever they choose to see. Things are not always what they appear to be. Instead of assuming things, wouldn’t it be more productive and/or prudent to ask what the motivations were?”
That goes for you as well. I am white, but I do not presume to speak about how whites in general feel – because there is a huge amount of diversity among them and a wide range of experience, upbringing, education, etc. I’m just having a hard time understanding the actions of Lee, Waters and the like and how they resonate with a number or people. If it’s not anger, bitterness and even hatred, what is it? They cannot be simplistically explained as a reaction to an arrest not being made. How does that prompt Waters to say Trayvon’s killing was a hate crime? How does that prompt Lee to incite mob violence against even the wrong people? When you can provide a better answer than “you need to probe more deeply and refrain from assumptions” then let me know. I am looking at the evidence – which, if you were honest, could be multiplied greatly.
Thulsa Doom
March 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
I’m sure he tweeted their address cause he was hoping the girl scouts would show up to sell them cookies. Anyway now I’m reallyout.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
5:24 pm
Debbie, tweeting the address, whether he knew it was correct or not is a type of vigilantism. He is an educated and smart man, this was totally irresponsible.
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
March 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-lee-settlement-20120329,0,7063902.story
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
5:27 pm
And TWO eyewitnesses said that ZIMMERMAN was on top!!
You’re a piece of work Doom.
I’m done. Your real stripes are showing and this is a waste of my time trying to reason with someone who has a “KILL EM ALL” mentality. Let’s just hope and pray that one day YOUR loved one is not in the same position that Trayvon was in.
PS: What I’ve always noticed about the truly “far right wing” that they are always FOR something until it’s one of their own that’s hurt. then they jump off that “FOR” ship real fast then. Let’s pray that a tragedy to one of your own is not the impetus to make you see the light.
Good day to you sir. I’m out for the evening. Going to go and TRY to get tickets to this movie (Food Games) that everyone is ranting about.
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
5:29 pm
Towncrier
If you haven’t already figured it out, people say stupid sh*t. What makes people think the president wasn’t an American? I can’t understand the anger behind that. Do I paint all White people in that same manner because of the stupidity of a few? No. When people say something, I ask clarifying questions. Ask William about our back and forth yesterday. Unlike many, I have no problem with asking questions since that’s what I do all day long.
When you can provide a better answer than “you need to probe more deeply and refrain from assumptions” then let me know.
Dude, I CAN NOT answer for anybody other than myself. If you want to know their motivations, ask them. Contrary to popular opinion here, all Black people do not think alike. The fact that you would state something that has the appearance of inferring that much kinda pisses me off. Instead of lashing back in anger though, I’ll go say a prayer for your soul. I think that would be more beneficial to us both.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
BURGLARLY TOOLS!?! Now you’re just LIEING to make you point valid. Just like with the Kathryn Johnstone’s case, you’re LIEING about the damn VICTIM. How pathetic is THAT?
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
March 29th, 2012
5:31 pm
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
4:58 pm
What makes your whole but,but,but Zimmerman SAID…..defense so ridiculous is that you won’t even ENTERTAIN the thought that Zimmerman LIED.
He shot down some kid, found that the kid didn’t have a gun on him or any other weapon then he LIED to protect himself from prosecution.
Nope, for some reason you just can’t fathom a man with a past history of violence could actually LIE about being violent……..
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DDR, I keep thinking the same thing.
Towncrier
March 29th, 2012
5:33 pm
“But my brother represents A LOT OF BLACK MEN who are seen as a threat FIRST; then later seen as a citizen. That is a sad state in America.”
To the extent that exists, I would agree that it is a sad state of affairs. I wish I could change that. I am not personally responsible for it, but am surprised that, in this present age of information and almost immediate exposure, it persists. How do you deal with it? If my race had this problem, I would catch people in the act with video tape. If it is that prevalent, it should be easy to do (because people are predictable). You know, find a spot that policemen like to patrol, send a black man into that area late at night and video tape it. If racist behavior is recorded, sue the city. If that happens enough times, the loss of money will deter the bad behavior if appeals to conscience will not.
It’s no better than thinking every Muslim is a terrorist.”
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
5:38 pm
“Ask William about our back and forth yesterday. Unlike many, I have no problem with asking questions since that’s what I do all day long.”
I am William. aka Towncrier. I used the former handle to suggest a sarcastic post by Shakespeare and forgot to change it back. So I just went with it. But I told everyone I was TC a week or so and JV jumped on that and made it seem that I was hiding behind names, calling me TC in his posts. So Now it will be TC aka W.
BADA BING
March 29th, 2012
5:39 pm
Spike Lee……Do the right thing!
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
Debbie, I’ve gone around and around on taking Zimmermn at his word. It simply doesn’t register with the guy. He just keeps coming back with the same faulty reasoning. It’s a waste of time.
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
March 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
Good day to you sir. I’m out for the evening. Going to go and TRY to get tickets to this movie (Food Games) that everyone is ranting about.
Hunger Games
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
5:44 pm
You know, find a spot that policemen like to patrol, send a black man into that area late at night and video tape it. If racist behavior is recorded, sue the city. If that happens enough times, the loss of money will deter the bad behavior if appeals to conscience will not
Google: Johannes Mehserle and Oscar Grant. Plenty of video there from a couple of cell phones……….
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
“What makes your whole but,but,but Zimmerman SAID…..defense so ridiculous is that you won’t even ENTERTAIN the thought that Zimmerman LIED.”
I can. I honestly am unsure of what happened. Hopefully they will uncover the truth.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
Brocephus, couldn’t agree more about asking questions. It’s critical in both our professions and bad things can happen if we don’t do it.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
oh HUNGER games!! Welllllll it had FOOD in it!!
Thanks!
And Yes, Zimmerman knows how to play the system. I guess growing up as the Judge’s son has perks.
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
Towncrier
Tells you how much attention I pay to the nonessential stuff.
barking frog
March 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
It’s hard to imagine
a gated HOA would
field armed guards
and not have cameras.
My Party has ALL the answers. Your party is full of poopyheads! (formerly That Black Guy)
March 29th, 2012
5:51 pm
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
March 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
oh HUNGER games!! Welllllll it had FOOD in it!! Thanks!
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
5:53 pm
“Google: Johannes Mehserle and Oscar Grant. Plenty of video there from a couple of cell phones…”
Interesting case, one which I think proves my point (though imperfectly).
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
5:59 pm
frog
The HOA wasn’t aware that he was carrying from what I’ve heard. Carrying isn’t advised for participants of neighborhood watch programs.
barking frog
March 29th, 2012
6:12 pm
Brosephus,
but no cameras..
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
6:13 pm
Not that I’ve heard of.
independent thinker
March 29th, 2012
8:21 pm
Both Zimmerman and Joran Vndersloot had immunity for murder charges on their home turf. Their dady’s were judges who knew how to manipulate the investigation. Charles Blow got it right last night – the police report supposedly prepared the night of the killing clearly identifies Trayvon by name and birthdate but we know his body laid in the morgue for three days as a John Doe.Clearly the reportwith uncorroborated witness statements of self defense and the fake report of Z. beaten and bleeding (not in the video leaked out) was fabricated several days later/ Zimmerman’s father gave an outrageous statement yesterday that Trayvon said “You are going to die tonight.” Yeah Trayvon was going to stuff that Arizona Ice Tea down his son’s throat along with the bag of Skittles. And Natalie Holloway forced Juran to have sex with her and died in the process.
At least Juran’s father died an early and untimely death.
Sheesh
March 29th, 2012
8:42 pm
I wonder how long his wife will hang around once his fingers are pried off the ledge of political life?
I bet she is not ready for a pipe and chair and quiet retirement.
What comes around goes around newt.
ld
March 29th, 2012
10:15 pm
Newt will not be disappearing as long as someone else is willing to pay the bills.
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