On a smarter planet, Augusta membership wouldn’t be an issue
For a decade now, IBM has been one of three main sponsors for broadcasts of the Masters golf tournament, which begins a week from today. IBM technology helps to run the tournament; IBM hosts a hospitality cabin near the 10th hole for its clients and guests.
Reflecting that long and close relationship, the last four IBM CEOs have been invited to become members of Augusta National, a highly sought honor. (The Washington Post puts the number at the last eight.)
Last October, however, IBM CEO Sam Palmisano announced he was stepping down and named as his replacement a 53-year-old by the name of Ginni Rometty to replace him.
That would be Ginni, as in Virginia. And as we all know, Augusta National has yet to welcome a woman to don its exalted green jacket (it welcomed its first black member in 1990).
Ten years ago, when Martha Burk tried to strong-arm the club into inviting a woman to join its exclusive membership, club leaders resisted, insisting that any changes in its membership policy would be made in its own time, without outside pressure. Rometti’s ascension to the head of IBM offers Augusta National a natural, organic opportunity to take that step, a step that it should have taken sometime in the previous century.
Conversely, refusing to take that natural step with a corporate ally as prominent as IBM, with a candidate such as Rometti who has earned the perks that traditionally come with her job, would make the absence of women all the more glaring.
– Jay Bookman
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297 more days
March 29th, 2012
4:19 pm
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297 more days
March 29th, 2012
4:22 pm
It will be interesting if Ginni gets her invitation, does she play golf?
JohnnyReb
March 29th, 2012
4:22 pm
Some things are sacred that should not yield to PC. If the members want to admit a woman, fine, it’s their club. If not, everyone should leave them the hell alone. If they say no, I am sure they will be prepared should IBM withdraw their sponsorship.
JohnnyReb
March 29th, 2012
4:24 pm
BTW Jay, political pressure to overturn tradition is not a “naturual step.” The Liberal mind, what a trip.
Jay
March 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
297, she is said to play occasionally.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
4:26 pm
“Some things are sacred that should not yield to PC”
But it’s not a “PC” issue…it’s an issue of the tradition of the club. They now have 2 conficting traditions. The question is: which will they consider more important?
ByteMe - popularity goon
March 29th, 2012
4:28 pm
Another attack on conservative chauvanistic white guys, Jay? You lib!
Prepare the fainting couch for Doomie. I suspect he’ll be wanting to use it.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
I know golfers who would swoon just reading this….
I’d just step over them and keep going
bill arp
March 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
well said, JR. Not saying that it is right or wrong, BUT, it is their decision to make. What’s the saying, “If you mind your own business, you won’t be minding mine”?
Aquagirl
March 29th, 2012
4:31 pm
But it’s not a “PC” issue
Excluding people from a club solely due to race, gender, or whatever isn’t a PC issue, it’s a “being total a-holes” issue.
Patrick
March 29th, 2012
4:31 pm
JohnnyReb–who said anything about political pressure? Societal pressure, sure–and that is VERY natural.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
4:33 pm
“Excluding people from a club solely due to race, gender, or whatever isn’t a PC issue, it’s a “being total a-holes” issue”
Well, I wouldn’t argue that either, but it’s a private club and they are free to set their own rules.
Jay
March 29th, 2012
4:34 pm
Prepare the fainting couch for Doomie. I suspect he’ll be wanting to use it.
That assumes he ever gets off it in the first place….
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
4:36 pm
I had heard years ago that they had offered a membership to Sandra Day O’conner when she retired. However, she has retired and is not a member…………
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
4:37 pm
Augusta National, like Bushwood, is a private club…women are allowed to play there as guests, just not as members…Don’t really care if they allow women members in the future…That place will always be the closest thing to heaven on earth.
skipper
March 29th, 2012
4:37 pm
Martha Burke set anything back so far………she made SURE that things stayed like they are. She was less the crusader and more the aggravater. People wanted to see Augusta stick to their guns just not to bow down to her and her offensive (and ugly) mug……..of course this will bring replies but she set it back…………..
ByteMe - popularity goon
March 29th, 2012
4:39 pm
People wanted to see Augusta stick to their guns just not to bow down to her and her offensive (and ugly) mug
And by “people” you mean chauvanistic white guys who think that they have to comment about whether a woman is ugly when discussing her activities… right?
Just a guess
Aquagirl
March 29th, 2012
4:39 pm
they are free to set their own rules.
I’m actually a Ron Paulista in terms of who you allow on your property or whatever. If you want to open a restaurant called Honky McKlansters and ban black people, have at it. Let society be the judge. Just don’t claim people are ragging you for being “non-PC.” It’s racist nutjob behavior.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
“her offensive (and ugly) mug”
Hmmm….so are you saying the outcome could have been different if she’d been beautiful?
JohnnyReb
March 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
It’s not a PC issue?
Of course it is a Political Correctness issue, and unfortunately in this case it may be an economic issue.
The idea that women have a “right” to be members of Augusta National and it would be natural progression is a Liberal dream. I was glad to see them not yield last time this came up. If it was up to me, I would throw all the women out of sports teams mens locker rooms as well. There presence there is ridiculous and an embarrassment. More PC running amuck.
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
Skipper,
Agreed, Burke was the “Al Sharpton” of her cause…Did more damage than good.
ByteMe - popularity goon
March 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
It’s racist nutjob behavior.
Only if you’re not allowed inside. Otherwise, it’s “protecting tradition”.
Stonethrower
March 29th, 2012
4:41 pm
They let in blacks but not women? Oh the horror!
Jay
March 29th, 2012
4:42 pm
“That place will always be the closest thing to heaven on earth.
Well, maybe. But in my own version of heaven on earth, women are allowed. In fact, they’re mandatory.
Stonethrower
March 29th, 2012
4:42 pm
@ty webb
But old Al Sharpton could become a member if invited!
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
4:43 pm
“If you want to open a restaurant called Honky McKlansters and ban black people, have at it. Let society be the judge”
Yep, me to. Put your bigotry out there for all to see and let the people vote with their feet.
ByteMe - popularity goon
March 29th, 2012
4:43 pm
But in my own version of heaven on earth, women are allowed. In fact, they’re mandatory.
And the younger ones have to wear “Daisy Dukes”?
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
4:44 pm
Jay,
Good point, but I was referring to the grounds.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
4:44 pm
“The idea that women have a “right” to be members of Augusta National and it would be natural progression is a Liberal dream”
Might want to recheck that. I’m as liberal as they come, and I don’t agree.
St Simons - we're on Island time
March 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
AQ – “it’s a “being total a-holes” issue.”
well, of course. They didn’t name their club “The Masters” because
they’re good at golf.
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
“But old Al Sharpton could become a member if invited!”
I bet burke would get an invite before sharpton.
JohnnyReb
March 29th, 2012
4:47 pm
Doggone – there’s always exceptions.
skipper
March 29th, 2012
4:48 pm
@Doggone/Ga,
No, but it woulda been easier to bear since she stuck it so out front in the news. And (if you remember) she acted like a snot. She was rude, coarse and offensive, as opposed to trying for any type of honest dialogue. This, too will bring comments but it is what it is…….Augusta National didn’t miss a meal before her and won’t miss one after her……..
Wade Hampton
March 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
“Rometti’s ascension to the head of IBM offers Augusta National a natural, organic opportunity to take that step, a step that it should have taken sometime in the previous century.”
.
organic?
sheeesh.
.
Progressives are not satisfied with destroying our country, culture, and family…….they insist on destroying golf too.
josef
March 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
Aquagirl
You say you’re a Ron Paulista, then you say it’s racist nutjob…well, you should know…
Doggone
You’re right. It’s a private club and their rules. That’s the whole rationale of it being what it is…
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
4:52 pm
I agree that they have a “right” to include or exclude anyone they want as a member. Didn’t they also exclude FDR, the most powerful man of his lifetime?
hsn
March 29th, 2012
4:53 pm
The refusal of women entry is just another extension of the Fraternety mentality that has corroded every aspect of American culture.
Look in our history and ugly discrimination is all over the place. If it is not color, it is class, if it is not gender, it is religion, and so on. Our planet is only speck in a sea of multi-million stars and planets. What are we fighting over?
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
4:53 pm
My opinion of Augusta National is the same as my opinion of the “blog brotherhood” here on this blog.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
4:53 pm
“No, but it woulda been easier to bear”
And the result would have been exactly the same…so why should SHE be the “gentleman” and make it easier for them to “bear” not changing their policy?
Aquagirl
March 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
then you say it’s racist nutjob…well, you should know…
I would hope anyone could figure out a restaurant banning African-Americans and called “Honky McKlanster’s” was run by racist nutjobs.
Wade Hampton
March 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
50 Best Buys closing.
.
Stay tuned for Targets, Lowes, and Home Depots to follow suit.
.
The future is so bright…………gotta wear shades.
.
Must be that global warming.
Scott Fresno
March 29th, 2012
4:56 pm
If they want to exclude women from their club that is their right. But, if people like me want to make fun of them for it, that is our right. It reminds me of the Little Rascals’ He-Man Woman Haters Club – A bunch of 7-year old boys afraid they are going to get cooties.
josef
March 29th, 2012
4:57 pm
Byte ME
Yeah, the Imam would go for the Daisy Dukes…so long as she don’t come in in the General Lee…
skipper
March 29th, 2012
4:59 pm
Hey Scott, I believe ole Doggone has some of those “cooties”!
josef
March 29th, 2012
5:01 pm
Aguagirl
Being a Paulista you ought to be an expert on racism by now, after all he’s David Duke’s choice,,,
Mid Ga Retiree
March 29th, 2012
5:02 pm
“Excluding people from a club solely due to race, gender, or whatever isn’t a PC issue, it’s a “being total a-holes” issue”
So if a white congressman applies for and is denied membership in the Congressional Black Caucus, what is that called?
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 29th, 2012
5:02 pm
If they want to exclude women from their club that is their right. </I.
I disagree. It should NOT be their right any more than it should be their "right" to exclude a particular race.
Scott Fresno
March 29th, 2012
5:03 pm
Circle circle.
Dot dot.
Now I got my cootie shot.
USMC
March 29th, 2012
5:05 pm
Hey Comrade Hypocrite Bookman.
There are plenty of WOMEN’S Clubs as well as HISPANIC, LATINO, AFRICAN AMERICAN, BLACK, ASIAN, etc. Clubs throughout the U.S.
I think it’s okay to have a men’s golf club and NOT be labeled a RACIST/SEXIST or whatever politically correct garbage term you try to slander people with. Get over it.
TM
March 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
I would like to nominate Jay for membership in Belizean Grove. Oops Sorry he is not qualified unlike one of our Supreme Court Justices.
ByteMe - popularity goon
March 29th, 2012
5:11 pm
There are plenty of WOMEN’S Clubs as well as HISPANIC, LATINO, AFRICAN AMERICAN, BLACK, ASIAN, etc. Clubs throughout the U.S.
Really? Please list one of each of those golf clubs for us. We’ll wait.
Real Scootter
March 29th, 2012
5:11 pm
They should not have let women even vote much less be a member of a golfing club!
josef
March 29th, 2012
5:11 pm
Being a Marxist…
“I don’t care to belong to any club that will have me as a member.”
Scott Fresno
March 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
Keep Up, please note that I never said that I think they SHOULD exclude women. I think it is backwards and sexist for them to do so. But, what I think they should do is different from what I think they have a legal right to do.
Stonethrower
March 29th, 2012
5:13 pm
Folks are just mad cause Clayton Bigsby was one of the leaders of the Klan, that is until he showed them his face!
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
5:14 pm
That place will always be the closest thing to heaven on earth.
Maybe your version of heaven is all-male, but not mine.
In regards to membership, Augusta National is a private club, and they set their membership requirements. I wouldn’t want to attempt to join a club that did not want me in the first place. Y’all can go play golf at your all male places, but gimme co-ed golfing anyday.
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
Doggone
Afternoon!!!! Did a drive-by earlier. Wasn’t ignoring your greeting on the previous thread.
BlahBlahBlah
March 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
Jay
March 29th, 2012
4:42 pm
“Well, maybe. But in my own version of heaven on earth, women are allowed. In fact, they’re mandatory.”
I go to the Masters every year. I see plenty of women all over the place.
Aquagirl
March 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
Being a Paulista you ought to be an expert on racism by now
I said I was a Ron Paulista *in terms of*….. I’m not 100% in favor of the government banning all types of discrimination. I’m also not 100% in favor of the government banning crack, but I’m not an expert on that either. For me, there is a distinction between what’s legally enforceable and what’s right.
But if you want to drop me in the “racist” category, I’ll greet that news with a yawn and let you have the last word. You’ve previously pronounced me as uncouth and generally icky, I seem to wad your undies for whatever reason. So I don’t take your categorizations personally.
Simple Truths
March 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
Slow news day, Jay?
Real Scootter
March 29th, 2012
5:19 pm
I’m a member of a country club,country music is what I love.
ByteMe - popularity goon
March 29th, 2012
5:20 pm
Rometti’s ascension to the head of IBM offers Augusta National a natural, organic opportunity to take that step
I don’t think they’ll do it and I don’t think she’ll overtly push it or pull IBM from sponsoring it. I think her presence will say enough about their bass-ackwards policies.
Contrarian
March 29th, 2012
5:21 pm
I have to disagree with you, Jay, for the following reason: according to the reports, Ms. Rometty is nothing more than an occasional golfer. Given what it is and what it represents to The Game, ANGC should under no circumstances have occasional golfers as its members, whether male or female. Membership should be reserve for people who know, understand and are passionate about the game, whether male or female.
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
“Y’all can go play golf at your all male places, but gimme co-ed golfing anyday.”
clearly spoken by someone who enjoys 10-hour rounds of golf.
josef
March 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
Aquagirl
Oh, no you don’t…you came in here singing his praises early on and one of the reasons I laid off the blog those few days was to keep from saying what I feel like when it comes to anybody coming in here saying the first thing positive with that hate monger’s name attached…it’s that type of yeah, but that brought us a Hitler, a Mussolini, a Kertesz amd a host of others who duped the public with just the proper parsing and populist issues…
wet wiccan
March 29th, 2012
5:24 pm
Rich people and their country clubs! LOL. I had Sunday brunch once at the Piedmont Driving Club. The food was okay, but not great. They did have musicians in the corner playing balalaikas though.
Contrarian
March 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
“That assumes he ever gets off it in the first place….”
Jay – I missed that on the first go-round, but very well said.
Aquagirl – before I had 2 daughters, my opinion was that golf is the preserve of men. I have since changed my mind. However, ANGC, being a private club, should be free to admit or deny whomever it chooses. I intend to circumvent ANGC’s current policy by having one of my kids win the Masters one day!
Normal, plain and simple
March 29th, 2012
5:29 pm
Jay
March 29th, 2012
4:42 pm
“That place will always be the closest thing to heaven on earth.
Well, maybe. But in my own version of heaven on earth, women are allowed. In fact, they’re mandatory.
————————————————–
Yeah, but at Augusta, they will be allowed to be bikini caddies only…
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
clearly spoken by someone who enjoys 10-hour rounds of golf.
Nope. Spoken by someone who enjoys the company of a lady.
josef
March 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
Wiccan
Well, you already can figure what I think of the Piedmont Driving Club! Back during the flag flap I was with a set of them and they were going on and on a la the current PR image motif on the old flag…and couldn’t understand why this little Jewboy called their Carpetbagger elite asses the biggest bunch of hypocrites ever assembled under one roof…
saywhat?
March 29th, 2012
5:31 pm
josef@ 5:11, That wouldn’t make you a Marxist, it would make you Woody Allen(as you probably already know).
Contrarian
March 29th, 2012
5:32 pm
“little Jewboy” – my, my, josef, someone is stuck in the past century for sure.
Moderate Line
March 29th, 2012
5:33 pm
For the 99.9999% who can’t get into Augusta National because we are not rich or connected enough I believe the main concern is the gas price hitting $4.00 and the unemployment over 8.3%.
getalife
March 29th, 2012
5:34 pm
Slow news days means we are back and things are going well.
Good news.
Aquagirl
March 29th, 2012
5:34 pm
I intend to circumvent ANGC’s current policy by having one of my kids win the Masters one day!
What kind of father are you? I wouldn’t wish golf on my worst enemy.
josef
March 29th, 2012
5:36 pm
saywhat
Nope. It was Groucho.
Centanarian..
Why do you say that? That was at the time the Piedmont was still denying membership to Jews…but well, you’re right, it WAS the last Century…the last decades of the 20th, but the last Century nonetheless
josef
March 29th, 2012
5:41 pm
oops
Make that 5:36 COTRARIAN…a Freudian slip?
wet wiccan
March 29th, 2012
5:41 pm
josef -
Yeah, they were a little too snobby for me. But hey, if rich people want to hang out together, I guess that’s their right. Before we moved to middle Georgia, we used to live in Forsyth County just down the road from where they held the Steeple Chase race every spring. What a show that was! Stretch limousines, tents set up with tables covered in linen, waiters in white dinner jackets with a towel over their forearms. LOL!
Mr Right
March 29th, 2012
5:44 pm
Who cares what the Masters people do, the thing that concerns me is how do we get Obama out of office so we can get back making America great again! These are possibly the 5 best sentences you’ll ever read and all applicable to bringing America back!
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation!
Contrarian
March 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
Aquagirl – I like you, so I say this with due respect: clearly you are clueless when it comes to golf.
Contrarian
March 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
Mr Right – don’t worry, for President Obama will have to leave office in January 2016 (though you may be equally or more disenchanted with his Democrat successor).
josef
March 29th, 2012
5:48 pm
wiccan
That Driving Club lot are snobs for no reason…a pack of ill-bred parvenues! Now, the horsey set? They’ve got class… I remember my Granny bad mouthing an uppity wannabe..”she ca-int evuhn ride!”
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
5:48 pm
Centanarian..
Is that something like a 100 year old centaur?
Moderate Line
March 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
“The problem with this bill is it passed essentially with a big Democratic majority and not much Republican support,” former Gov. Howard Dean (D-Vermont) said on “Morning Joe” today. “So, this could’ve been fixed. It wasn’t. And it wasn’t for a variety of reasons.”
“You look at the approach that was taken to build this bill, they brought every single interest group into the White House and gave them something in return for something else. The individual mandate is what the insurance companies got and I think it was a terrible mistake. Hopefully it will not destroy — losing the individual mandate will not destroy the whole bill because the bill has got some very good stuff in it and a lot of Americans are going to be very sorry if this falls through,” the former presidential candidate said.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/03/29/howard_dean_individual_mandate_a_terrible_mistake.html
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
5:50 pm
“Did a drive-by earlier. Wasn’t ignoring your greeting on the previous thread.”
No problem…it got dead-threaded anyway!
Get Real
March 29th, 2012
5:51 pm
Burke was a complete fool, total embarassment to all women
carlosgvv
March 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
A thorough study of American history shows old rich white men are among the most reactionary people on the planet. That a club like Augusta National with this kind of membership would still not admit women is exactly what you would expect.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
“Nope. It was Groucho”
Yep, it was Groucho – Beverly Hills Country Club, if I remember correctly.
josef
March 29th, 2012
5:53 pm
Brosephus
Sumpin’ like that…
Aquagirl
March 29th, 2012
5:55 pm
clearly you are clueless when it comes to golf.
And proudly so. I agree with Twain or Churchill or whoever said it…sounds like a way to ruin a perfectly good walk. The golf carts look fun, though. You golfers should be grateful I’m not wheeling around the course in one of those things.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
5:56 pm
“Burke was a complete fool, total embarassment to all women”
Funny, I didn’t feel embarrased.
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
5:56 pm
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
However, you can legislate the poor to remain there all the while accumulating more wealth for the wealthy.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
Tell that to a hedge fund manager. I guess you also have no problem with the military and national security apparatus keeping you safe from suicide bombers.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
Wrong. You can get released from jail, thereby gaining your freedom without anything being taken from someone else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
Nope, but you damn sure can increase it by concentrating it into the hands of a few.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation!
Tell that crap to those people busting their ass at Walmart for minimum wage while Sam’s relatives are some of the worlds wealthiest people. It’s gotta be hard work sitting on your ass in an office all day with other people doing all the work for you.
Mr Right
March 29th, 2012
5:56 pm
Contrarian
March 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
Dream on !!
josef
March 29th, 2012
5:58 pm
Doggone
Thanks…I couldn’t recall the club…adding to it,as a joke, he sent a “letter of resignation” to the Friar’s Club, if I recall correctly…
josef
March 29th, 2012
6:00 pm
Aquagirl
Agree with you on the golf…but it does serve a purpose, it gets Unmentionable out of the house…
Contrarian
March 29th, 2012
6:01 pm
Mr. Right – Did I dream today that CNN’s latest poll has the President in a double digit lead over Etch-a-Sketch? Or did you dream that it didn’t happen?
PS: My version of reality hews closer to the truth.
Aquagirl
March 29th, 2012
6:07 pm
but it does serve a purpose, it gets Unmentionable out of the house…
You could always start screaming at the top of your lungs and throwing things. That would be cheaper, yes?
Erwin's cat
March 29th, 2012
6:08 pm
It’s a private club and they can do whatever they want
marty
March 29th, 2012
6:09 pm
I have a friend who worked on a BBC shoot at Augusta last month. It was a doc with Jack Nicholas. Two members of the crew were women including the director. They needed to go to the restroom and their “handler” provided by Augusta National explained that they would have to leave the premises to answer the call of nature.
Further, when my pal apologized for their inconvenience, they said don’t worry the BBC shoots all over the world and strives to accommodate local customs. To cap it off the Brits requested that my friend leave during lunch to replace his jeans with a pair of dockers as they felt that might also be an affront in the environment they in which they found themselves.
There is humor in backwardness
josef
March 29th, 2012
6:10 pm
Aquagirl
Nyanh…he’s a much better aim!
F. Sinkwich
March 29th, 2012
6:11 pm
Jay, just to be clear, has Ms. Rometty asked for a membership?
josef
March 29th, 2012
6:14 pm
Sinkwich
You don’t ask…
Erwin's cat
March 29th, 2012
6:14 pm
ty @5:23
…was thinkin’ the same thing
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
6:16 pm
osef
March 29th, 2012
5:11 pm
Being a Marxist…
“I don’t care to belong to any club that will have me as a member.”
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I left you a message on a different thread……….. find it if you choose to.
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
March 29th, 2012
6:17 pm
Its called “freedom of assembly”, so it is nobody’s business but Augusta National’s. Jay, you need to get going with your Corzine expose’.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
6:18 pm
JAY:
With everything going on in the world this is all you’ve got ?
I don’t suppose men have the right to go fishing or hunting together without women around?
By the way:
Headline: “Parents of murdered Brit students slam Obama”
Headline: “Travon Martin’s recent tweet – “Plzz shoot da #mf dat lied 2 u!”
Headline: “Beating of white man by 6 black men may have been racially motivated”
Headline: “House unanimously kills Obama budget 414-0 – not a single Dem backs”
Headline: “First lady/daughters hit Vegas. Obama: ‘You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas on the taxpayer’s dime’ ”
Headline: “Roseanne Barr tweets home address of George Zimmerman’s parents!”
Headline: “U.S. soldier killed by armored vehicle when he ran into the road to save an Afghan child.”
kayaker 71
March 29th, 2012
6:18 pm
Who the hell has the temerity to assume that anyone has the right to tell a private organization who they can admit? This sounds like Bozo, only with white guys. If they don’t want females in their organization, they have every right to not to ask them to join. If they don’t want gays, trans-gender individuals, people of color, Koreans, white guys, Jews, liberals, Elvis impersonators, Illinois governors, people from Nevada or Oregon, they have every right to do just that…. deny membership. What the hell is the matter with you people?
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
6:18 pm
They have women’s restrooms at Augusta National…either you’re “friend’ lied to you, or…
josef
March 29th, 2012
6:18 pm
FRED
Where ’bouts?
Adam
March 29th, 2012
6:18 pm
So not touching this one.
Did anyone mention Obama golfs yet?
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
6:18 pm
” “The McClains’ claim is fully resolved,” Matt Morgan, their attorney, said in an email. “Mr. Lee personally called them to give a very heartfelt apology. Further, he agreed to compensate them for their loss and the disruption to their lives.”
Good for Spike. End of discussion.
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
6:19 pm
perhaps you made it up.
David Granger
March 29th, 2012
6:19 pm
I agree that this seems to be a perfect opportunity for Augusta National to admit its first female member. Billy Payne has shown that he is not afraid to change some of the long-time traditions. Martha Burk needs to keep her damn mouth shut about it, though. They worst thing she could do is to let the Augusta National believe…if they do extend a membership invitation to Ms. Rometty…that Ms. Burk is going to claim that she somehow “won the battle.”
And just for the record: Over one-third of the female organizations in the National Council of Women’s Organizations…that Ms. Burk was chairman of…did not allow men to join.
josef
March 29th, 2012
6:20 pm
ty
I was sorta thining that myself…I don’t think they’re exempt from the health codes
pogo
March 29th, 2012
6:22 pm
Who gives a crap about which rich people are allowed into the Masters? Most of us have to worry about 4 dollars a gallon gas, 5 dollars a gallon milk and 2 dollars a loaf bread. In two years nobody will remember who won the thing this year anyway and we will still be worrying about how we are going to make it. It is almost comical. While our country teeters on the financial and socialogical abyss, somebody writes about who is allowed into the Masters. No wonder “reality” TV has done so well.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 29th, 2012
6:22 pm
Well, me and my buddy Jim Earl and my other buddy Joe Bill talk from time to time about playing Augusta National. We’d even be willing to wear our whitest T-shirts and our best blue jeans. Trouble is, we don’t even know anybody that’s a member. Maybe some member that’s reading this can write me c/o Simpsons Trailer Park, Cumming, GA and let me know how to go about getting on that course. It’s at least a 3-hr. drive to Augusta and I don’t want to waste the time if we ain’t going to be welcome.
And never let it be said I’m not for Equal Opportunity. I think Augusta National ought to make a special effort to hire some women to drive the beer carts and such. It would put golfers on their best behavior and keep them from hiding behind trees acting like we don’t know what they’re really doing when they’re too lazy to go to a bathroom.
But women golfers? Nope. A round already takes almost five hours on a course, and we don’t need a bunch of cake-bakers holding things up even more by taking about five shots to get to where most men hit their tee balls. When it comes to that I come down firmly on the side of Tradition and letting private clubs do what they want with their private property. Besides, if IBM had of did what a company with any sense should of done—name a man to run the place—we wouldn’t be writting about this problem.
Anyhow, that’s my opinion and it’s very true. Any of you Augusta National members can see my address and I’ll be glad to hear from you. And you can take my word for it that we ain’t going to pick some female to fill out the foursome. We got alot of respect for Tradition.
Have a good night everybody.
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
6:23 pm
“And just for the record: Over one-third of the female organizations in the National Council of Women’s Organizations…that Ms. Burk was chairman of…did not allow men to join.”
Really? Wow.
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
6:24 pm
oh, and many other private clubs, even coed ones, don’t allow jeans on the premises…your friend should’ve known better.
Aquagirl
March 29th, 2012
6:25 pm
Who the hell has the temerity to assume that anyone has the right to tell a private organization who they can admit?
Nobody here, but don’t let that stop you from freaking the h3ll out and ranting like a maniac. Because we find it amusing when you do that, Ms. Litella.
ty webb
March 29th, 2012
6:26 pm
josef,
yeah, but it makes for such a good story.
Proud to be me!
March 29th, 2012
6:26 pm
Who the hell cares! I’m sure some women do . . but this is one who could care less. I think if that is their tradition . . so be it. It’
Gordon
March 29th, 2012
6:27 pm
“Rometti’s ascension to the head of IBM offers Augusta National a natural, organic opportunity to take that step, a step that it should have taken sometime in the previous century.”
Why? So liberals can feel good that a woman is a member of Augusta National? How about they invite a woman when they want that person to be a member, just like they do everyone else. What difference would it make to have a woman member just because she was a woman? Liberals are so into appearances. Things do have to be true, they just have to look good.
getalife
March 29th, 2012
6:31 pm
scout,
Jay is not drudgey silly.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
6:32 pm
(it welcomed its first black member in 1990)
might white of them!
pogo
March 29th, 2012
6:32 pm
Since America now has the collective attention span (and intellect) of a 1 year old child, I will join with them now and ask, with all of the billions we taxpayers have paid into and lost in green energy and are about to pay for by the EPA shutting down the coal powered plants why are we having to still pay four bucks a gallon or more for gas and why are our electrical bills about to skyrocket? Doesn’t Obama know that Americans want what they want NOW and they want it for nothing? He should because he has played his supporters from exactly that same angle from the very start. He promised them everything for nothing. And he has not delivered. He will pay politcally in the fall.
Matti
March 29th, 2012
6:32 pm
Please put me in the “I don’t give a schlitz” column.
F. Sinkwich
March 29th, 2012
6:33 pm
Let’s see if I have this right.
IBM spends a boatload of money on The Masters.
IBM’s CEO is a women.
Therefore, Augusta National MUST offer said female CEO a membership.
What’s if said CEO doesn’t give a rat’s ass to be a member?
Has said CEO offered any complaint whatsoever about female membership practices?
Has any lib ilk media member (redundant, I know) uncovered why if said CEO is soooooo pissed off at Augusta National, why said CEO is spending a boatload of money on The Masters?
Nothing to see here folks, move along…..
kayaker 71
March 29th, 2012
6:33 pm
The Boy Scouts of America dealt with the liberal scorn a few years back when they refused to have gay scoutmasters. The Congressional Black Caucus has only black members. It’s still a free country, Bookman, or have you forgotten?
getalife
March 29th, 2012
6:33 pm
pogo,
Funny, I don’t remember your concern before the w collapse.
You missed it.
josef
March 29th, 2012
6:38 pm
ty
From a year ago,,,
http://jacksonville.com/sports/golf/2011-04-10/story/augusta-national-apologizes-female-reporter-barred-locker-room
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
6:39 pm
getalife:
If you haven’t noticed, Drudge adds them from other Networks.
Just sayin’.
Black Mormons
March 29th, 2012
6:39 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFP6VUGwmAg
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
6:40 pm
“Nothing to see here folks, move along…..”
Bye bye
Don’t let the door hit you in the……….
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
6:40 pm
It’s tradition at August for the President of the United States (and formers) to play there “especially” when they are in town for another event anyway.
I am aware of at least one occasion when Bill Clinton was president, was in Augusta and was NOT invited to play.
Hummmmm ………………………
getalife
March 29th, 2012
6:41 pm
scout,
drudgey finds anything negative to attack our President and family.
JB
March 29th, 2012
6:41 pm
Why women? There are 4 dry cleaners within in mile of the course.
josef
March 29th, 2012
6:41 pm
KAYAKER
That Boy Scout one always tickled me pink since Lord Baden Powell was gay!
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
6:41 pm
I guess I’d defend this club’s right to be flaming a-holes.
Otherwise, well, I wouldn’t pee on them if they were on fire.
Normal, plain and simple
March 29th, 2012
6:41 pm
Just stopping in to say “howdy” to the night crew. Wish I could stay and play. Don’t get much free time nights anymore. I’m making a couple meat loafs now. One for me and one for a Granddaughter and my Great Granddaughter. As I make them, I remember an old saying we would use way back when leaving a friend. “See ya, don’t let your meatloaf.”…So…see ya, and ditto!
JB
March 29th, 2012
6:42 pm
We’d like to personally invite Obama to join our Hunting Club when he’s out of work soon.
JB
March 29th, 2012
6:44 pm
decibels…..we like it that way. Stay away. It’s mostly for self sufficient tax payers, just say’n.
barking frog
March 29th, 2012
6:45 pm
getalife,
have you seen Jm?
getalife
March 29th, 2012
6:45 pm
frog,
Nope.
F. Sinkwich
March 29th, 2012
6:45 pm
Okay you libs ilks, answer me this:
So far we have established that Ms. Rometty is not interested in being a member at Augusta National.
So far we have established that Augusta National hasn’t offered a membership to Ms. Rometty.
Why do you busybodies care?
Native Atlantan
March 29th, 2012
6:47 pm
Flaming liberal here but I agree, Augusta National is within its rights not to admit women if it so chooses. However, as a longtime IBM’er, I would hope they would realize the door is open and this is the perfect opportunity to take a step forward. I also don’t think Ginni would pull sponsorship from the most prestigious golf event of the year. She’s a CEO and advertising is king.
kayaker 71
March 29th, 2012
6:48 pm
joseph, 6:38,
I wonder how the Professional Tennis Federation would feel if a male reporter was denied access to a female locker room to interview a female tennis player after Wimbleton? Men don’t belong in female locker rooms and women don’t belong in male locker rooms. It isn’t a matter of discrimination, profiling, gender ignorance or any of that. It is a matter of courtesy. When Erin Andrews shows up in the Jet locker room interviewing Mark Sanchez, clad only in a towel, it sells lots of air time. What if Mark Sanchez showed up in a female locker room interviewing a prominent female sports figure clad only in a towel? Wow, can’t have that. That selective indignation showing up again.
barking frog
March 29th, 2012
6:49 pm
getalife,
he may be playing golf.
he’s rich.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
6:50 pm
getalife:
“drudgey finds anything negative to attack our President and family.”
Democrats find anything negative to attack conservatives and our families.
It’s called politics.
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
6:50 pm
“Why do you busybodies care?”
Political correctness, of course. That must be preserved at all costs.
ragnar danneskjold
March 29th, 2012
6:51 pm
Leftists like to tell other people how to run their lives, their businesses, and their healthcare.
Georgia on my mind....
March 29th, 2012
6:52 pm
only in Augusta…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kH_EZF0XqM&ob=av2e
kayaker 71
March 29th, 2012
6:53 pm
joseph, 6:41,
The irony is amazing, is it not?
josef
March 29th, 2012
6:56 pm
Kayaker
@ 6:48
You’ve got a point there…
JB
March 29th, 2012
6:56 pm
IBM pull it’s support? I would say 90% of corporate purchases from IBM are made BY MEN. If she’s smart, she’ll leave her panties at the door on this one.
F. Sinkwich
March 29th, 2012
6:58 pm
“Why do you busybodies care?”
I think it’s because the lib ilks don’t think Ms. Rometty is a real woman unless she burns her bra and demands social justice. Plus she’s a CEO which puts her into a class of robber barons who make money at the expense of the homeless.
Never mind she runs one of the most successful American global corporations the world has ever known.
Lib ilks like Jay hate her for that. She’s a traitor.
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
6:58 pm
IBM spends a boatload of money on The Masters.
IBM’s CEO is a women.
Therefore, Augusta National MUST offer said female CEO a membership.
I love how people make sh*t up just to argue about something. This place is more entertaining than a Three Stooges marathon some day.
wet wiccan
March 29th, 2012
6:58 pm
Black Mormon @ 6:39
God changed his mind about black people in 1978.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5lCYqn2jcs
Native Atlantan
March 29th, 2012
6:58 pm
right JB….just like your wife….
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
6:59 pm
HA ! HA !
I’ll give my friends out there three guesses as to who wrote this !
“Why aren’t they showing us Zimmerman’s baby pictures? (And why didn’t we get to see baby pictures of the Duke lacrosse players? I bet they were adorable.)”
JB
March 29th, 2012
6:59 pm
I would personally like to have more “straight” writers at the AJC, but it’s not my place. I still read it. It’s my choice not to if I prefer.
josef
March 29th, 2012
7:00 pm
ragnar
@ 6:51
So do rightists…
Kayaker
I do love irony!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
7:01 pm
wet wiccan:
When Jesus could physically go no further, a black man carried His cross on to Calvary.
No greater honor in the universe.
F. Sinkwich
March 29th, 2012
7:01 pm
“love how people make sh*t up just to argue about something. This place is more entertaining than a Three Stooges marathon some day.”
Why don’t you read Jay’s blog before you post?
wet wiccan
March 29th, 2012
7:02 pm
Men don’t belong in female locker rooms and women don’t belong in male locker rooms. It isn’t a matter of discrimination, profiling, gender ignorance or any of that. It is a matter of courtesy.
I can’t believe I agree with kayaker on anything, but I do agree with this ^^^
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
7:03 pm
“It isn’t a matter of discrimination, profiling, gender ignorance or any of that. It is a matter of courtesy.”
To be fair, there was a problem that needed to be addressed: unequal access to the athletes. But there is almost certainly a better solution to it than this.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
7:03 pm
Bro
Sad thing is that it is one of the same ones day in and day out……
Maybe it is the blog persona…. I hope it is not some sort of cry for attention they are unable to obtain elsewhere
I really hope not, but it is the same constant BS…… but as you states it does provide for laughter
Adam
March 29th, 2012
7:03 pm
Why don’t you read Jay’s blog before you post?
Someone should take their own advice. No mention of MUST in there anywhere.
But I am not here to talk about the post anyway. Just this once, I am here to have enough entertainment to finish my popcorn.
josef
March 29th, 2012
7:04 pm
wiccan
H- changed his mind on at least Pepsi back when and then got a lot more liberal when Mormon interests got involved in U and I Sugar…seems some of the other drink manufacturers weren’t willing to buy their product unless the Prophet went back and got an okey-dokey from the Alm-ghty!
Mighty Righty
March 29th, 2012
7:05 pm
And this is your business why? Has your friend Jenny asked to be a member of the all male, because they like it that way, private club or is this just more liberal BS trying to start a problem where there is none? If your friend tries to make trouble, the board at IBM who shares in the bennies of sponsoring the Masters just might relieve her of her present responsibilities. But then your friend Jenny is no doubt smarter than any liberal and will therefore not do anything stupid.
wet wiccan
March 29th, 2012
7:05 pm
Scout -
That was in the lyrics of the song that I linked. Did you listen to it?
kayaker 71
March 29th, 2012
7:06 pm
Bookman,
“The absence of women all the more glaring”. There are times when the absence of women is welcome, almost therapeutic. I don’t know whether those members feel the same way in the locker room after a round of golf, smoking a cigar and having a wee dram of single malt but I feel that way every time I step on my flats boat to chase tarpon in the gulf. There are no complaints about the lack of a bathroom, no bitching about how hot it is, no one wanting to go home and “quit this silly pursuit”, no cries about “going home early”, or “this sun is pretty hot…. maybe we ought to head in”. or “you”re not going to have another beer are you?”….. none of that. Just the freedom to enjoy what you do, free of criticism, free of bitching and complaining and doing what you like best. Don’t be to quick to destroy the sanctuary that Augusta might have for it’s male members. There are some things that just too damned good to be f***ed with.
Mighty Righty
March 29th, 2012
7:07 pm
Enter your comments here
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
7:07 pm
Why don’t you read Jay’s blog before you post?
Seems like I read it with better comprehension than you did. I don’t see where Jay said that ANGC “MUST” do anything. Maybe you should read more and knee jerk less.
JoeFann
March 29th, 2012
7:07 pm
I seriously doubt that most members of ANGC give much thought to the fact that the club is all male. And when they do, it’s probably about which lady is most deserving–and make no mistake, it will be a HUGE honor–to be the first lady invited for ANGC membership. A better blog might be about golfing reader’s nominations. I can think of several including Annika Sorenstam, Mickey Wright, or maybe Babe Didrickson Zaharias in memorium. Regardless, I suspect that because it will be such a huge media frenzy when it happens, and ANGC membership is nothing if not image-conscious, the honored lady will likely have made huge contributions to the game, as opposed to a business leader.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
7:07 pm
wet wiccan :
You know honestly I didn’t but I have taught that in my Sunday School classes for years !
JB
March 29th, 2012
7:07 pm
Kayaker 71…………………Bravo
Gator Joe
March 29th, 2012
7:08 pm
Jay:
Forget “political correctness”, how about doing what is correct? How could have women as members negatively affect their club. I have no doubt the members, all male, and majority WASP would be fine with not allowing Blacks, Hispanics, Jews, or anyone different from them. This club, and others like them have no place in American society
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
7:09 pm
Headline: “Christie: ‘Much more ready’ in 2016″
Start losing weight then.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
7:11 pm
Scout @ 7:09
That was funny
JB
March 29th, 2012
7:11 pm
Gator Joe……………..Your thoughts on the Black Panthers? The NAACP? The National organization of Women to name a few. Any thoughts?
F. Sinkwich
March 29th, 2012
7:11 pm
K71 nailed it.
‘Nuff said.
Aquagirl
March 29th, 2012
7:12 pm
Just the freedom to enjoy what you do, free of criticism, free of bitching and complaining and doing what you like best.
How else can they escape the cries of “take out the trash!” “mow the lawn!” “put that back in your pants!”
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
7:12 pm
“This club, and others like them have no place in American society”
We are talking a private club……. While it isn’t my thing; I’m not sure we want to go that far by any means
JB
March 29th, 2012
7:12 pm
I love Christie, but blunt speaking Jersey guys aren’t electable on a National ticket.
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
7:12 pm
“Seems like I read it with better comprehension than you did. I don’t see where Jay said that ANGC “MUST” do anything. Maybe you should read more and knee jerk less.”
That is because Jay knows better. Other people do not and demand a change be made (when none is by law required).
F. Sinkwich
March 29th, 2012
7:13 pm
On a smarter planet, lib ilks are extinct.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
They BOTH suck :
I like a president (among other things) who has some discipline.
barking frog
March 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
Liberal IBM trying to
advance the liberation
of females by promoting
one to a position that
would allow her to be
a Masters Member or
be rejected. And they
also sold their PC group
to the Chinese.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
You people aren’t very bright. Women are allowed to play at Augusta national (filling Jay’s request), they just can’t be members. Kinda like every fraternity and every sorority on pretty much every college campus in the country. You can go to a party at the Phi Mu house, buy you’re not getting invited to join. Yet somehow all the liberals seem to overlook that….
Midori
March 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
Trayvon Martin: New witness to Trayvon Martin shooting to appear on CNN tonight
maybe they will show us some of Zimmerman’s baby pictures, huh Scout?
JB
March 29th, 2012
7:15 pm
I wish Obama has some discipline on being a dumb a$$.
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
7:15 pm
“Maybe they will show us some of Zimmerman’s baby pictures, huh Scout?”
LOL. Here we go again.
Chevy, Ole Skool....
March 29th, 2012
7:16 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fihwXuP6awc&feature=relmfu
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
7:16 pm
They BOTH suck:
Your home is your “private club” and who you invite there is your business.
However, libs. would regulate that if they could under the Commerce Clause !
I’m surprised they haven’t tried it already with Augusta. You know, someone once
hit one of the balls out of state to South Carolina !
Gator Joe
March 29th, 2012
7:17 pm
JB:
I have plenty of thoughts on those subjects, however, trying to explain them to you would take more time and patience than I have. Not to mention, your apparent ignorance as to why those organizations emerged, or were created. Short answer: they emerged as a response to racism, bigotry, and sexism.
JB
March 29th, 2012
7:17 pm
The WNBA is doing well……………………….huh…………………..what?……………Never mind.
F. Sinkwich
March 29th, 2012
7:17 pm
” I have no doubt the members, all male, and majority WASP would be fine with not allowing Blacks, Hispanics, Jews, or anyone different from them.”
Bigot much?
Pathetic.
Jay, why do you let these people post?
Oh yeah, he’s a lib ilk.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
7:17 pm
“Yet somehow all the liberals seem to overlook that….”
Reading comprehension surely isn’t your style……. A quick overview of the statements on this issue doesn’t match your rhetoric
But I guess you “seem to overlook that”
No surprise….. I might add
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
7:18 pm
Midori:
No ………….. Travon was 17 with a picture of him at 12 so just 5 years younger would do.
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
7:18 pm
” Kinda like every fraternity and every sorority on pretty much every college campus in the country. You can go to a party at the Phi Mu house, buy you’re not getting invited to join. Yet somehow all the liberals seem to overlook that…”
It’s just not politically correct…can’t you see that??? Geez!!!
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
7:18 pm
What if Mark Sanchez showed up in a female locker room interviewing a prominent female sports figure clad only in a towel?
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
7:19 pm
Hey, Scout! Leave those kids alone!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
7:19 pm
Midori:
Did you see Travon’s tweet ? (Maybe his last one)
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
7:19 pm
oops, meant to add “do they even do interviews in female locker rooms?”
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
7:19 pm
Scout @ 7:16
I said as much and no it isn’t “all libs”.
No offense but the daily broad brushes from both sides amaze me…. Guess it is done for impact
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
7:19 pm
That is because Jay knows better. Other people do not and demand a change be made (when none is by law required).
Orrrrr…. Other people make the false accusation/assumption that people are demanding a change be made when they are not doing that. That’s why I laughed at the original post I copied. Some people build a straw man, other build a straw army, but that was the first time I’ve ever seen someone build a straw nation.
josef
March 29th, 2012
7:19 pm
GATOR JOE
No place in American society? Oh, and freedom of association even for dimwits is contrary to the principles on which this country was founded?
JB
March 29th, 2012
7:20 pm
I’ve got all night Joe……………Tell us some liberal fairy tales. I might be pretty smart………………………….Oh wait, I’m a conservative….so I must be dumb and unworthy. And certainly a racist………………..Oh, And I pray for dirty air and water………….Geez.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
7:21 pm
Out to pound the streets for a few miles and get in a jog
Peace
Jn316
March 29th, 2012
7:22 pm
Boring.
Old Timer
March 29th, 2012
7:22 pm
I have no doubt the members, all male, and majority WASP would be fine with not allowing Blacks, Hispanics, Jews, or anyone different from them. This club, and others like them have no place in American society
There was a golf magazine article a few years back about the arcane membership practices of Augusta National. It seems that the chairman has just about the sole authority to extend membership invitations. And membership isn’t necessarily permanent. For example, a member who dropped a bottle of after-shave lotion in the locker room never received a renewal billing, nor did the member who abused his privilege of inviting guests to play the course. You can be out of the club as quickly as you came in.
I know I’d never be comfortable within that circle, nor would I want to be a member of a golf club that closes down two weeks after the Masters and doesn’t re-open until fall. Membership invitations receive a lot of publicity when they’re extended, but I’m far from certain that they’re worth much except to those who value prestige and exclusivity.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
7:22 pm
The BOTH suck:
I hear you ………….. thus your handle ………..
Jack
March 29th, 2012
7:22 pm
Owners of private clubs should able to restrict membership. Otherwise, it ain’t private.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
TaxPayer:
I love that song. I heard them live once in the mid 70’s here in Atlanta.
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
7:24 pm
“Orrrrr…. Other people make the false accusation/assumption that people are demanding a change be made when they are not doing that. That’s why I laughed at the original post I copied. Some people build a straw man, other build a straw army, but that was the first time I’ve ever seen someone build a straw nation. ”
All I need is two examples (”people”, plural) to completely falsify your assertion. But I will let you do that for yourself.
JB
March 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
Old Timer……….I live here. It ain’t about golf over there. Most members don’t play. It’s for wheeling and dealing with “their own kind” without the rift raft of a Shoney’s crowd lurking. I don’t blame them.
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
7:26 pm
Didn’t really think Jay’s topic on IBM, their Female CEO and IBM’s sponsorship of the Masters would make it through the evening. I see we’re back on the Travon Martin tragedy.
F. Sinkwich
March 29th, 2012
7:26 pm
“The group launching a $3.6 million ad campaign hitting President Barack Obama on gasoline prices has deep ties to the billionaire libertarian industrialists Charles and David Koch.”
Chump change.
C’mon dudes, ante up !!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
7:26 pm
Recon:
Exactly. Hundreds of more important issues out there.
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
7:27 pm
“Didn’t really think Jay’s topic on IBM, their Female CEO and IBM’s sponsorship of the Masters would make it through the evening. I see we’re back on the Travon Martin tragedy.”
Yes, but at least it was a respite from GOP candidate X bashing.
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
7:28 pm
Oh, sorry…I missed the recent posts and it appears that some are staying on topic.
Gator Joe
March 29th, 2012
7:29 pm
JB: Sorry, I don’t have all night, and I don’t waste my time trying to convince people regarding what is wrong, and what is right. I will give my opinions though, always will.
Aquagirl
March 29th, 2012
7:29 pm
a member who dropped a bottle of after-shave lotion in the locker room never received a renewal billing
Geez. Tough crowd. Or maybe he also kept “accidentally” dropping the soap.
kayaker 71
March 29th, 2012
7:30 pm
Old Timer, 7:22,
I am sure that you will not get a call soon from anyone at Augusta. They can close down anytime they want to. You might not be “comfortable in that kind of organization” but the world does not revolve on what you think is appropriate. It is private…… got that? Private. How many times do liberals have to read that to get the message. Hell, I am not even a golfer….. don’t follow the game, could care less. But when someone steps in and tries to tell me what standards that they think are appropriate that I follow, I have two words for them The first one has four letters and the last one is YOU.
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
7:31 pm
“Geez. Tough crowd. Or maybe he also kept “accidentally” dropping the soap.”
Gotta love minds that run to the gutter.
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
7:31 pm
0311/8541 and Towncrier, pretty busy today but did check in a few times and saw that the lib playpen was quite active.
F. Sinkwich
March 29th, 2012
7:33 pm
Lib ilks hate:
1) CEO’s
2) Private clubs
3) Freedom
Go figure…..
USMC
March 29th, 2012
7:33 pm
On a smarter planet, Racial/Gender Identity politics wouldn’t be an issue…
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
7:34 pm
“0311/8541 and Towncrier, pretty busy today but did check in a few times and saw that the lib playpen was quite active.”
Yeah, JV and I had it out. I got sick of him calling me (and anyone else whose views he doesn’t like) a racist at any opportunity he thinks he might have.
josef
March 29th, 2012
7:35 pm
AQUAGIRL
You just bad!
Empire State of Mind
March 29th, 2012
7:37 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjsXo9l6I8
josef
March 29th, 2012
7:37 pm
JB
Little you know! Maynard Jackson and Sam Massel used to hold late night court at the Broadview Waffle House!
Aquagirl
March 29th, 2012
7:40 pm
minds that run to the gutter.
Run? Mine is too lazy to walk. It just wandered there years ago and never left.
Seriously, though, I can’t imagine why you’d kick someone out for accidentally dropping a bottle of aftershave. It doesn’t sound like the sanctuary Kayaker was waxing for nostalgically. They sound uptight, to say the least.
Paul
March 29th, 2012
7:41 pm
Well, in the face of all the hoopla, let’s hope Ms. Rometty and IBM follow the Golden Rule.
The woman with the gold makes the rules.
They’ll decide if it’s worth it to them to spend the $$ to impress their corporate clients.
They’ll also decide if it’s worth ticking off some clients who were looking for an invite.
Or they’ll decide if that’s how they want to be treated by some group they’re writing a huge check to.
And Augusta National has to decide pretty much the same thing.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
It’s really hard to get worked up about this, especially when it’s so exclusive to begin with.
One of my favorite Masters stories goes back to the year it was revealed that the sounds of birds singing that you hear on TV are actually recordings. Skip Carey jumped on it and started playing the bird calls during a Braves game. It was hilarious.
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
“Seriously, though, I can’t imagine why you’d kick someone out for accidentally dropping a bottle of aftershave. It doesn’t sound like the sanctuary Kayaker was waxing for nostalgically. They sound uptight, to say the least.”
My guess would be the persistent and ubiquitous odor. It may be hard to get rid of.
josef
March 29th, 2012
7:49 pm
I’m willing to bet it was cheap aftershave…
barking frog
March 29th, 2012
7:49 pm
The after shave guy may
have been wearing a
hoodie.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
7:51 pm
RECON:
I wonder if Obama called the parents of this poor girl ???
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/south-carolina-teen-brutal-soccer-attack-earns-assault-103322121.html
barking frog
March 29th, 2012
7:53 pm
Scout,
Obama only calls sluts.
Bud Wiser
March 29th, 2012
7:53 pm
So what in the hell is ‘natural’ about potentially bowing to PC pressure? Augusta National ain’t no Obama, so bowing doesn’t come natural to the rich and uppity socialites, CEO’s, pro athletes, etc., etc.
Last I heard they take no federal money, so are not a slave to politics, like so many of the democrat ilk.
Can no one (on the left) just sit back and enjoy the natural beauty, the awe that is Augusta National, for one glorious weekend a year, watch golf, and not twist themselves into a tight little wad that needs shoved up a dark, smelly place, whining and groping for yet another political stance?
Christ Bookman, take a day off and relax.
Enjoy The Masters for what it is, and try not to foam your mouth up at what you percieve to be a political correctness issue.
Yawn.
Finn McCool (Class Warfare === Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
March 29th, 2012
7:54 pm
Wow, some of you defenders of “private” institutions are just flying off the handle. Touchy, touchy, touchy.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
7:54 pm
JB
March 29th, 2012
7:20 pm
I’ve got all night Joe……………Tell us some liberal fairy tales. I might be pretty smart………………………….Oh wait, I’m a conservative….so I must be dumb and unworthy. And certainly a racist………………..Oh, And I pray for dirty air and water………….Geez.
Just doesn’t seem fair does it. Especially when you have to hear it from a bunch of America hating, success hating, socialist and communist idiots who care more about trees than people and want our enemies to defeat us.
Jay
March 29th, 2012
7:55 pm
I’m at the Capitol for the last few hours of the session. You would not believe the volume of bills being given final approval without being read by most of the legislators; in many cases, they’re voting to approve bills without even knowing what the topic of the bill might be.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
Like the 2700 page Obamacare Bill ?
Aquagirl
March 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
I’m willing to bet it was cheap aftershave…
I can imagine the horror….OMG, it’s OLD SPICE!!! BURN THE HERETIC!!!!
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
7:58 pm
josef
March 29th, 2012
7:49 pm
I’m willing to bet it was cheap aftershave…
Or it wasn’t his aftershave and it was expensive as hell.
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
7:58 pm
“I wonder if Obama called the parents of this poor girl ???”
Does she look like one of his daughters?
Seriously, though, I wonder what lies behind that amount of rage. If she did that regularly, she would have been suspended and charged long ago. Why then?
Atlantan
March 29th, 2012
7:58 pm
With $5trillion new debt and gas prices continue to rise the actions of a private club is the last thing I care about…..
Jay
March 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
As to a private group being able to select its own members, of course they have that right. Nobody questions it.
Of course, the rest of us also have the right to note that they’re stuck in the 19th century, especially when the “private” group is as public as Augusta National.
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
Lib ilks hate:
1) CEO’s but luv BLT’s
2) Private clubs without public restrooms
3) Freedom robbing Republican ilk bedroom monitors.
Go figure….. I agree
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
“I can imagine the horror….OMG, it’s OLD SPICE!!! BURN THE HERETIC!!!!”
There is simply no accounting for bad taste.
Atlantan
March 29th, 2012
8:00 pm
Meh… aren’t you a big supporter of Obamacare? Nancy said you have to pass to know whats in it – why are you complaining now Jay?
I’m at the Capitol for the last few hours of the session. You would not believe the volume of bills being given final approval without being read by most of the legislators; in many cases, they’re voting to approve bills without even knowing what the topic of the bill might be.
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
8:01 pm
Jay
Do they read them even when they have time?
getalife
March 29th, 2012
8:01 pm
Another gop rubber stamp deficit blow out.
Business as usual.
josef
March 29th, 2012
8:01 pm
AQUAGIRL
Or worse, Brute!
JAY
And what, pray tell, makes you think hat even if they did read it they’d know what it was about?
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
8:03 pm
“You would not believe the volume of bills being given final approval without being read by most of the legislators; in many cases, they’re voting to approve bills without even knowing what the topic of the bill might be.”
That sounds vaguely familiar…when did that happen before…hmm…it escapes me at the moment.
Aquagirl
March 29th, 2012
8:04 pm
You would not believe the volume of bills being given final approval without being read by most of the legislators
Oh, I bet we would. I’m not sure some of those boxes ‘o rocks can read, period.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
8:05 pm
josef:
I think legislators should have to take a test on every bill and pass the test before they can vote on the bill.
That would solve it especially for the ones who can’t read.
godless heathen
March 29th, 2012
8:06 pm
I wouldn’t join any club that would have me as a member. – Groucho Marx
Peadawg
March 29th, 2012
8:06 pm
They are a private club so whatever decision they make I’m fine with. There are PLENTY of other golf clubs in the country.
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
8:07 pm
Jay@7:55 at first I thought he was talking about the congressional Democrats passing Obamacare. Can we remember “we have to first of all pass it so everyone can understand what’s in it.”
seabeau
March 29th, 2012
8:08 pm
We will allow her to join the club as soon as women guit voting for a candidate because of their appearance!!
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
8:08 pm
“That sounds vaguely familiar…when did that happen before…hmm…it escapes me at the moment.”
Oh…I know…that whole trillion dollar Obamacare thingy. Good catch, Jay. I see you disapprove of the practice. Would that both parties might actually act responsibly. Dang!
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
8:10 pm
I remember one of those senators admitting under questioning the other day that he did not know what was in his bill because he did not write it. That seems to be a very common scenario. The people that elect many of these politicians do so in order to submit legislation that they want and their politician is more than willing to handle that task so long as they do not have to answer for it.
godless heathen
March 29th, 2012
8:11 pm
“without the rift raft ”
Is the rift raft the one that the rock guitarists are on after the cruise ship goes down?
josef
March 29th, 2012
8:11 pm
Don’t Forget
@ 7:58
That’s probably the real reason…
I remember
March 29th, 2012
8:13 pm
Not suprising that on a day of Black Caucus racist rambling, more bad performance for Obamacare in the SCOTUS, Obama’s budget rejected in the house without a single democrat vote that Jay would want to talk about Augusta. Heck even Nancy Pelosi did not vote for Obama’s budget. Now that she is the one who took the severablity clause out of Obamacare, the Obamacrats are looking pretty dim. Not to mention that our president promised to offer a post partisan, post racial third way but is now just another race baiting leftwing democrat.
I’d talk about August or Newt too.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
8:13 pm
First black member in 1990.
Pro sports is a bastion of racism. In that regard it perfectly exemplifies us as a people.
Doomie, move over. And share the fainting couch with William…
Jay
March 29th, 2012
8:13 pm
I do find it interesting that the right feigned such horror at the thought that congress might approve a 2,000-page bill without reading it, yet celebrates when Scalia says he’s ready to declare that whole bill unconstitutional without reading it.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
8:13 pm
Actually, REQUIRING them to read the bills they write would probably make for much more reasonably sized bills. Start with the tax code and watch those ridiculous tax shelters melt away, especially since it would be easier for the public to watch what the government is doing. I like it.
getalife
March 29th, 2012
8:14 pm
Lobbyists write the bills.
Corrupt congress failed to cut big oil welfare today so when a gop talks about cuts, just laugh and say you lie.
dcb
March 29th, 2012
8:14 pm
“…. Conversely, refusing to take that natural step with a corporate ally as prominent as IBM, with a candidate such as Rometti who has earned the perks that traditionally come with her job, would make the absence of women all the more glaring.”
All the more glaring to whom? Only those who wish to make a big deal out of it. Like the media and liberal editorialists maybe??????
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
8:14 pm
I can’t believe y’all are sitting herr yapping about an all male club when Ashley Judd’s on tv. Talk about misplaced priorities…
josef
March 29th, 2012
8:14 pm
SCOUT
I would certainly agree to that…and the questioning coming from a panel of voters selected by lottery…
Heathen…
Us uppity folk would like to know who he considers riff-raff!
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
8:14 pm
“I remember one of those senators admitting under questioning the other day that he did not know what was in his bill because he did not write it. That seems to be a very common scenario. The people that elect many of these politicians do so in order to submit legislation that they want and their politician is more than willing to handle that task so long as they do not have to answer for it.”
Does anyone know if bills are required to have an accurate one paragraph synopsis attached to them? Would that not help law makers be more responsible by telling them at a glance which bills they really need to look at (because they may or may not support it) as opposed to those on which they clearly would vote yea or nay?
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
8:15 pm
Jay “Of course, the rest of us also have the right to note that they’re stuck in the 19th century, especially when the “private” group is as public as Augusta National.”
Do you have the same disdain for fraternities, sororities, the congressional black caucus, or do you reserve that only for people with whom you believe you have political difference?
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
8:15 pm
Can’t we discuss something more current and relevant like Obama’s failure to get his tax increase on oil companies voted in favor of because Democrats joined with Republicans to defeat the proposed bill.
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
8:16 pm
Has any Republican read Paul Ryan’s budget proposal. I’m interested in hearing how much the deficit and debt will be cut on a yearly basis, for starters.
josef
March 29th, 2012
8:16 pm
JAY
So long as Scalia predicates his decision on the 8th!
Jay
March 29th, 2012
8:17 pm
RB, on what basis do you believe I have political differences with Augusta National? I was unaware it took political stances.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
8:18 pm
Josef, exactly. Same thing with vehicles. Ding somebody’s old truck and nobody notices. Do it to a Ferrari and watch the fireworks.
F. Sinkwich
March 29th, 2012
8:18 pm
“The Senate on Thursday thwarted Democratic plans to strip billions of dollars in tax breaks from the largest oil companies, just an hour or so after President Obama urged the chamber to kill off the deductions.”
High gas prices, O’bozo?
He wants to make them higher still.
But that’s his plan. Has been all along.
Brosephus™
March 29th, 2012
8:20 pm
TaxPayer
I doubt it. It’s better politics to shed light on your opposition’s shortcomings instead of correcting your own.
F. Sinkwich
March 29th, 2012
8:20 pm
“I’m interested in hearing how much the deficit and debt will be cut on a yearly basis, for starters.”
Let’s start with O’bozo’s as a point of reference.
You first, dude.
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
8:22 pm
“I do find it interesting that the right feigned such horror at the thought that congress might approve a 2,000-page bill without reading it, yet celebrates when Scalia says he’s ready to declare that whole bill unconstitutional without reading it.”
Last I knew, Supreme Court justices shouldn’t be making law. Thus, it could be argued that greatly “editing” one in review would be tantamount to the same thing. Besides, as a practical matter, who can possibly know and comply with laws contained in a 2,700 page document? Come on. That is plainly unrealistic. How many pages is the entire Constitution? The law needs to be simplified and re-written. period.
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
8:22 pm
Scalia has previously stated that the 2700 page bill won’t hold together without the individual mandate. So nothing surprising here. Conventional wisdom has this turkey legislation going down but It’s not over until the fat lady (no offense) sings in June.
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
8:22 pm
Let’s see, if we subsidize oil companies with our tax dollars, the Republicans claim they will give us lower oil prices but if we do not subsidize them with tax dollars, they will take away their lower oil prices. Okay. Who can argue that.
F. Sinkwich
March 29th, 2012
8:22 pm
“I do find it interesting that the right feigned such horror at the thought that congress might approve a 2,000-page bill without reading it, yet celebrates when Scalia says he’s ready to declare that whole bill unconstitutional without reading it.”
The idiots who voted for it didn’t Jay, why should he?
dcb
March 29th, 2012
8:23 pm
Bookman, I don’t understand this preoccupation by liberals with all things being equal and available for everyone regardless of ability or drive. You earned your job in competition with others. I respect that. And I don’t see you insisting to your editors that someone who doesn’t have your writing talent or drive share print with you in the spirit of equality. What am I missing here?
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
8:23 pm
…billions of dollars in tax breaks from the largest oil companies…
Big business is against socialism. Until it benefits them.
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
8:26 pm
“The law needs to be simplified and re-written. period.”
Towncrier, you’re right and I think the SCOTUS will vote 5 to 4 dumping the mandate and sending it back to congress for rework.
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
8:26 pm
I don’t care about an “O’Bozo’s” budget, Sinkwich. That’s your personal nightmare. But I do recall a clown from a Stephen King movie with really scary teeth.
Too bad Republicans are not interested in the content of Paul Ryan’s proposed budget given that it would affect them if it were passed and signed into law. Probably too much to read.
josef
March 29th, 2012
8:27 pm
dcb
I think you miss what liberals are after with equality…it’s equal ACCESS to be evaluated for your ABILITIES…
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
8:27 pm
Jay, The members tend to be successful people who make more than 250K per year. You know, the evil millionairs and billionairs you and your minions have such hatred for. I’m sure there are a few libs there too, but I doubt any of them are forking over any more of their tax dollars in excess of what is required of them than you are. Not even that “few thousand” BS you floated a while back.
Don’t feel bad about hating them for being successful though, Jay, I doubt they care much for you either.
F. Sinkwich
March 29th, 2012
8:29 pm
“Let’s see, if we subsidize oil companies with our tax dollars, ”
Hey Tax, please list those “subsidies.” You mean like tax deductions that every other business in this country takes advantage of?
Please compare and contrast those to loan guarantees, like Solyndra.
Thanks.
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
“Towncrier, you’re right and I think the SCOTUS will vote 5 to 4 dumping the mandate and sending it back to congress for rework.”
Which, in the long run, I think will be productive. This bill was passed by a very partisan way and and by the skin of its teeth. It doesn’t really pass muster. Sometimes, though, masterpieces emerge from revisions. So let’s see what happens.
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
Paul Ryan’s budget will get full review and debate in Congress. Too bad ObamaCare didn’t get the same it would have saved taxpayers considerable dollars and our employment numbers would be much better.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
Well the broad brush seems to be the default mode here. That sucks.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
but It’s not over until the fat lady (no offense) sings in June.
Well, if you’re waiting for the missus to sing you’ll be waiting alot longer than June. She’s tone-deaf and she can’t read neither.
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
8:32 pm
“Well, if you’re waiting for the missus to sing you’ll be waiting alot longer than June. She’s tone-deaf and she can’t read neither.”
Really. Ginsberg?
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
8:33 pm
Do ya’ll REALLY think the oil companies pass those subsidies back to the consumer? Really?
F. Sinkwich
March 29th, 2012
8:33 pm
“I don’t care about an “O’Bozo’s” budget, Sinkwich.”
Me either. It’s crap. Glad you saw the light.
dcb
March 29th, 2012
8:37 pm
Josef – good point and I only wish it was true. But what about those situations that place quotas on the numbers of minorities required to be, for example, accepted to colleges or employee ranks to qualify for federal funds – just two examples. Qualifications go out of the window when dealing with numbers.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
8:39 pm
I answered your question, Jay, now answer mine. Why is the congressional black caucus ok but Augusta National has a “previous century” step it needs to take?
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
8:42 pm
“I answered your question, Jay, now answer mine. Why is the congressional black caucus ok but Augusta National has a “previous century” step it needs to take?”
I have actually heard or read (even here) where some liberals think that, because whites are in the majority and “exercise power” over those in the minority, there needs to be two standards.
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
8:42 pm
Redneck,
That’s okay you have plenty of time to teach her to holler out, hear ye, hear ye…the Supreme Court Of The United States has ruled against the “Affordable Health Care Act, AKA Obamacare” or something like that. Have a good evening.
getalife
March 29th, 2012
8:43 pm
filky,
You lie about cuts.
You can’t even cut big oil welfare.
josef
March 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
dcb
I’m inalterably opposed to quotas…coming as I do from a background where quotas were used to limit that access. Here is where I can tangle with my fellow liberals big time. Quotas are simply not the way to go to broaden access. It’s a feel-good quick fix and once the quota is met, to hell with the more highly qualified minority member whose application came late. I’m not sure how to change the culture surrounding this, but mandates do leave a sour taste in the mouths of many.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
8:48 pm
The last thing the black community leadership wants is for decisions to be made based on merits. They’re going to hang on to the quota garbage as long as it keeps putting dollars in their bank accounts.
And before the moron Jamvet gets on his “every white conservative is a racist” soapbox, my company has about 150 employess and 95% of them are black. If they show up on time, do their job, and treat our customers professionally, I couldn’t care less what color they are. If they can’t do that they’ll be working elsewhere next week(regardless of their skin tone).
Oscar
March 29th, 2012
8:49 pm
Does anyone care what Augusta National does. And if so, why.
One comment thought. Augusta is exampt as a private club because they invite on a personal basis, and they are not a commercial club where people meet to do business. That is the distinction between a pribate club that cna discrimate and a commerical club or trade union that cannont. If they issue the lady an invitation because she is CEO of IBM that kills there argument that they are not a commerical club with people there for business purposes.
josef
March 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
dcb
See RB at 8:48…how DO you change that line of thought?
F. Sinkwich
March 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
“You lie about cuts.”
Thanks for your comment, getalife.
What lie?
JB
March 29th, 2012
9:00 pm
If the goal and work ethic of every 99 %’er was to be a 1%’er, this country would be a much better place. I understand helping the helpless ( mental or physical). but creating a system to financially reward high school drop outs having kids out of wedlock and increasing the payout with each kid, who will never get out of poverty, is just dumb.
getalife
March 29th, 2012
9:00 pm
No defense cuts, no corporate welfare cuts and more tax cuts will never address our deficit cons.
Scalabrini Ortiz
March 29th, 2012
9:01 pm
Augusta National is a useless anachronism that does not represent most Georgians. Spare me the laudatory talk about the majesty and tradition of this place. As far as I’m concerned, its all too antebellum for my taste. And the green jackets are ugly and poorly-tailored.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
9:03 pm
I’m totally opposed to racial quotas. They may have had some role in the past due to the so-called “glass ceiling” which, at one time, was a real concern. And for the record, I’m opposed to legacy admissions and the good ol boy network as well. And I’ve had a couple of Asian kids tell me they felt they had to be head and shoulders above everybody to get into colleges, med schools, etc. But you will always have claims of bias one way or the other as long as there is an interview or some other subjective criteria. If you’ve got a lousy personality you’re gonna have trouble getting ahead in most fields.
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
9:03 pm
I’ve competed with IBM and I’ve worked with them in the course of my career. In the latter relationship they can put on one helluva shindig and they know how to market. Selling can sometimes leave them vulnerable and recognizing that sometime weakness allows the opportunity in my former relationship to eat their lunch and supper, but that’s only learned through the school of hard knocks.
JB
March 29th, 2012
9:03 pm
THE only reason it’s an issue because it’s America, and some people can do what they want without being told to make if fairrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr and opennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn to everyoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I love it. When will everyone have a house in Malibu?
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
9:04 pm
“See RB at 8:48…how DO you change that line of thought?”
Let’s look at a different scenario (about which I know a fair amount): basketball. Should the NBA have a quota for white players? I don’t think so. The reason 80 or more percent of the players are black are not hard to discern. You don’t have to be a track star to be a great basketball player; Larry Bird proved that. The reason black players are generally better is because they, out of a strong desire and interest, put in a whole lot more time becoming that way. Most players do not get great in a few years time (though there are examples of both white and black players doing this, but they were already exceptional athletes in a different sport like soccer). Time and effort.
What, in part, needs to change is values. For some or even many blacks, pursuing an education is “being white”. I learned that, of all places, from Travis Smiley. Such an attitude is self defeating. Conversely, I have read that white basketball players give up on the game for the opposite reason. Again, self defeating.
Soothsayer
March 29th, 2012
9:04 pm
“[M]y company has about 150 employess and 95% of them are black.”
I didn’t know there were 150 Black people in Gwinnett County.
JB
March 29th, 2012
9:05 pm
Ortiz……………..useless……………..look in the mirror. Stay away and your “taste” won’t be disturbed.
JB
March 29th, 2012
9:07 pm
Bias? Try being a white Southern white male about 50.
PatDowns
March 29th, 2012
9:07 pm
What all you gleeful pundits and envious bloggers either don’t get or fail to acknowledge…Rometty got to where she is by playing by the rules – and succeeding – in an overwhelmingly man’s world. She and Augusta National will work something out.
JB
March 29th, 2012
9:09 pm
PatDowns…………..I hear they need some help with the egg salad.
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
9:12 pm
How much will the debt ceiling be increased under the Paul Ryan budget proposal?
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
9:13 pm
How will the debt ceiling increase or has increased under the Democrats no budget.
Towncrier aka William
March 29th, 2012
9:15 pm
Gn all…I’m out.
Scalabrini Ortiz
March 29th, 2012
9:15 pm
JB-thanks for the great advice! Why didn’t I think of that? What an intellect!
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
9:15 pm
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
9:12 pm
How much will the debt ceiling be increased under the Paul Ryan budget proposal?
Depends on how much the missile defense system to protect Poland that some conservatives seem to want will cost.
Recon 0311 2533
March 29th, 2012
9:18 pm
Ummm, left wing Democrats don’t like Pols. Oh well, Taps y’all…I’m out.
Adam
March 29th, 2012
9:20 pm
So, just for the record, all 2000+ pages (if it’s even that much, seems like there’s a new number on here daily) were read and negotiated for over 8 months. If someone didn’t get a chance to at least read most of it, as well as any amendments, I am surprised.
Josef
March 29th, 2012
9:20 pm
Towncrier
That basketball one has to do with what I was saying about access…there is a place that Black men did gain the access and the dream machine is at work. In my own job I have to go up against the soccer dream with my little Latino boys…if they would put as much time and effort into their geometry or social studies…but the dream machine is not at work there…our priorities are warped and twisted…
JB
March 29th, 2012
9:21 pm
Ortiz, looking at your moniker, I’m guessing you might be of some ethic background. Maybe not, but if so, protecting and preserving one’s heritage might seem important to you, right or wrong of how the rest of the world see’s it? Maybe not?
TaxPayer
March 29th, 2012
9:22 pm
Paul Ryan’s 2013 budget proposal is only 215 pages and the bulk of it is a re-print of his 2012 proposal. Even Scalia could read that much. Why don’t Republicans know what’s in it?
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
9:23 pm
JB
March 29th, 2012
9:07 pm
Bias? Try being a white Southern white male about 50.
JB, I would imagine you are much more likey to be descriminated against for being 50 than being white. It’s illegal but it happens.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
9:25 pm
Hey taxpayer, is that proposal in final bill form? I tried to find a copy but it wasn’t that easy and about 10 minutes of looking didn’t produce a result.
JB
March 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
Ask the National media about white southern males. About the only group left that folks don’t run to and protect. Fair game. Anyone see the John Stewart hit job a couple of weeks ago. Everyone had a good time yuking it up
Josef
March 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
JB
Forget the white, male and 50…just Southern is sufficient…but I’ve already been fatwa Ed hereabouts on that one…but there are some things you’ll never get people to see…
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
9:29 pm
Josef, do those kids parents feed the pro athlete dream? Some kids seem to be trying to fulfill their parents dreams.
Josef
March 29th, 2012
9:29 pm
I don’t know if the AJC still does it, but in the past they have run help wanted classifieds in which “no Southern accent” was a job requirement…
Josef
March 29th, 2012
9:33 pm
Don’t forget…
Yes, they do. An interesting thing though. One of our fathers is a somebody in soccer circles…he takes the time to coach our kids, and not in the sport Buthelezi math and reading.
Augusta, GA
March 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8IqkRbxcTA
Josef
March 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
Damn iPad! That’s “..but in…”. Sssheese!
Scalabrini Ortiz
March 29th, 2012
9:39 pm
JB –
I’m as white and male as you are, and maybe around the same age (I’m 54). The laudatory crap about Augusta National still makes me sick to my stomach. If being proud of one’s heritage involves excluding certain groups based on their gender and/or ethnicity, please count me out.
Dems_R_Idiots
March 29th, 2012
9:45 pm
February = black history month
Black Engineers of the month
Latino Teacher of the year
Let’s discuss this garbage.
progressive
March 29th, 2012
9:45 pm
Of course a private club for the most part has a legal right to deny membership to women and black people.
But that doesn’t mean it’s right to do so, and it certainly doesn’t mean that those of us who think such discrimination is wrong shouldn’t say so, especially since it comes in the wake of a history of (illegal) virulent discrimination against women and black people.
People have rights to do many stupid and wrong things. That’s good, because they might then learn how stupid and wrong those things are, and change.
Dems_R_Idiots
March 29th, 2012
9:46 pm
How about getting more whites in the NBA???
1027 days (Obama) + 730 days (Hillary) formerly known as Soothsayer
March 29th, 2012
9:47 pm
I can just see a female member of Augusta National: “why don’t they make them little ball thingies bigger! They’s so hard to hit when they’re small like that!”
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
9:48 pm
“How about getting more whites in the NBA???”
Easy. Find some good white players. End of “problem”
Dems_R_Idiots
March 29th, 2012
9:48 pm
I was denied entrance into a private bar/club in Parker County, TX because I was not a member. Know what? No big deal – I took my money elsewhere.
Gotta love the moron at Alpharetta High School who does not think that there should be a male king & female queen for this year’s prom.
1027 days (Obama) + 1460 days (Hillary) formerly known as Soothsayer
March 29th, 2012
9:49 pm
Oops! Cut Hillary’s term short by a couple of years!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
9:51 pm
JAY @ 8:13
That’s not his job to read the whole thing especially since there was no severability clause. It’s not his Constitutional duty to pick and choose as that degrades our three branches of government.
The Democrat controlled Congress screwed up and they will have to go back and do it right.
297 days (Obama) + 1460 days (Hillary) formerly known as Soothsayer
March 29th, 2012
9:54 pm
Damn! I don’t know what I’m thinking about!
1027 days (Obama) + 1460 days (Hillary) formerly known as Soothsayer
March 29th, 2012
9:56 pm
Had it right the first time! Damn!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
9:58 pm
Headline: “SLAVE TO THE APPLE!
“Audit Faults Supplier in China ………. 60+ hrs week, 11 days row”
Heck, that’s nothing !
During my civil service career it was common for me (us) to work seven days a week for five or more weeks without a day off – zero – especially during a campaign year. In addition, my overtime record for one month was 220 hours !
So what’s the big deal ?
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
9:58 pm
Doggone,
Nobody thought much of Jeremy Lin….. until he was given a chance. Sometimes I wonder if pro sports is as unbiased a meritocracy as many think. And don’t forget, the 2004 “dream team” only won the bronze medal. Pretty weak since it’s an American sport at it’s core.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
10:01 pm
“Sometimes I wonder if pro sports is as unbiased a meritocracy as many think”
Of course it isn’t. How many WOMEN do you see in the NBA?
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
Headline: “SLAVE TO THE APPLE!
“Audit Faults Supplier in China ………. 60+ hrs week, 11 days row”
Yeah, that’s not all that impressive. Hard but doable.
Doggone/GA
March 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
Didn’t realize it was this late. Gotta hit the hay. Nite all.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
Anybody else notice when Jay gets challenged he dissapears?
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
10:05 pm
Let’s discuss this garbage.
Let’s not, troll.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e4kDXsM6lk
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
10:07 pm
Ooooops !
Taliban captured in Drag !
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2122130/Chief-army-officer-Afghanistan-orders-guardian-angels-protect-U-S-troops-insider-attacks.html
Obama is over
March 29th, 2012
10:07 pm
OOPS Spike Lee had to settle with the couple he falsely tweated the Zimmerman address on according to the AJC. Any other race baiting topics you can think of?
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
10:08 pm
But Scout,
Scalia made reference to the “cornhusker kickback” during the arguments. Well, the “cornhusker kickback” didn’t even make it into the bill. He should at least know what he’s talking about and really should be embarassed about making such a huge gaffe IMO.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
10:08 pm
Don’t Forget:
Coal miners probably do more than that.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
10:09 pm
RB, if you have children, and they are killed, I wonder if someone is going to tell you to quit whining when you grieve for them.
If there is karma in this world, I hope so…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
10:09 pm
Don’t Forget:
I think that shows you how he’s going to vote. He DON’T CARE what’s in it because I’m betting he’s going to throw the whole thing out the door !
ld
March 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
Jay:
The planet’s not stupid; however, many people infesting it are.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
RB from Gwinnett :
He won’t even debate with me.
He just says “rabbit hole” or some other lame excuse.
ld
March 29th, 2012
10:12 pm
RB:
Jay likely disappears because he sets his own hours and can.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
10:13 pm
Doggone:
So far ……….. professional sports is the only occupation where you actually have to pass a for real physical test for what you do.
For example, firemen and police officers used to have to pass certain physical tests but those were thrown out to allow for women in general (rather than a rare exception). The result is that you have “ok” women in those accupations but not the “best”.
It would be like mandating that each NBA team “have” to play one woman all the time.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
10:14 pm
Excuse me: occupations
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
10:14 pm
Sooth, my business includes other counties besides Gwinnett, but thanks anyway.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
10:16 pm
Scout, I get plenty of days off but my work weeks are usually around 90 hrs. It’s not physical but I’ve had 24 hour call responsibility for a week at a time. Not getting much sleep isn’t good when you think for a living. Can’t imagine how tough a coal miners job is though.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
10:18 pm
Scalia’s vote was never in question IMO, it’s Kennedy and maybe Roberts that will be the swing.
Jm - Bloomberg Troll Strikes Again!
March 29th, 2012
10:22 pm
A. Jay’s been reading Bloomberg.
B. Someone doesn’t have tickets to the Masters…..
Jm - Bloomberg Troll Strikes Again!
March 29th, 2012
10:22 pm
oh. and boom.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
10:25 pm
Jammie, you need to learn how to read an comprehend the conversation. Your understanding of what was said is apparently severely skewed by your bias. You have a problem dude. Get some professional help.
Jm - Bloomberg Troll Strikes Again!
March 29th, 2012
10:30 pm
RB. He’s unhinged.
The article Jay read.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-28/golf-s-masters-facing-male-only-dilemma-with-new-ibm-ceo.html
Adam
March 29th, 2012
10:31 pm
RB: Jay gets challenged all the time, whether he’s here or not, and I do see him responding. Him responding to people is somewhat uncommon, and it’s usually a con he responds to.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
10:32 pm
Florida Sen. Marco Rubio (R) described his endorsement of Mitt Romney last night as motivated primarily by an interest to end the GOP campaign, and avoid a messy fight at the party’s summer convention.
Not exactly a ringing endorsement there.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
10:33 pm
Don’t Forget:
My dad was a coal miner when I was young.
getalife
March 29th, 2012
10:38 pm
rb was a loyal bushie marching lock step as w collapsed our economy.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
10:39 pm
Adam, he only responds when he thinks he has something on somebody. If you point out how stupid his posts are, he dissapears. Over and over and over.
barking frog
March 29th, 2012
10:39 pm
Scout,
Didn’t know you were
a coal miner’s
daughter….
Jm - Bloomberg Troll Strikes Again!
March 29th, 2012
10:40 pm
RB, I couldn’t get Jay to answer a yes or no question. That says it all.
Jay wouldn’t do well in a municipal courtroom. Much less the Supreme Court.
Jm - Bloomberg Troll Strikes Again!
March 29th, 2012
10:41 pm
coal miner’s
daughter….
haha. very funny. sort of.
getalife
March 29th, 2012
10:41 pm
gop caved on appointees.
Our President is kicking gop booty.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
10:41 pm
South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley could soon be indicted. Charges are said to be about tax fraud.
A highly ranked federal official has also privately confirmed rumblings of an investigation and possible indictment of the governor, though the official was not aware of the specific timeframe.
Yesterday, Palmetto Public Record exclusively reported that the Internal Revenue Service has been investigating since March of 2011 the Sikh worship center run by Gov. Haley’s father. At least five lawsuits have been filed against the Sikh Society of South Carolina since 2010, alleging that the group bilked contractors out of nearly $130,000 for the construction of a new temple.
Gov. Haley is reported to have managed the temple’s finances as late as 2003, and our sources believe any indictment would center on what happened to the missing money.
Jm - Bloomberg Troll Strikes Again!
March 29th, 2012
10:42 pm
“gop caved on appointees.”
If Obama wins re-election, they’ll get the knives out.
Obama is over
March 29th, 2012
10:43 pm
Don’t forget @ 10:32
oops SCOTUS shutting down Obama’s signiture achievement. not exactly a rin
ging endorsement there.
Jm - Bloomberg Troll Strikes Again!
March 29th, 2012
10:44 pm
don’t forget. drop a link for that or pipe down little one.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
10:46 pm
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/03/29/on-a-smarter-planet-augusta-membership-wouldnt-be-an-issue/?cp=8
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
10:46 pm
uh oh
http://www.businessinsider.com/report-south-carolina-governor-may-be-indicted-on-tax-charges-2012-3
getalife
March 29th, 2012
10:48 pm
No if jm,
When.
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
10:51 pm
http://www.thestate.com/2012/03/29/2213471/haley-denies-connection-to-probe.html
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
March 29th, 2012
10:51 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
Do those numbers mean anything?
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
10:54 pm
lol jm wants a link omg now thass funny
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
10:55 pm
It is funny, but it became very silent when one was produced
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
10:56 pm
barking frog:
………………….
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
10:56 pm
It’s unconstitutional in Oklahoma to require women seeking abortions to be forced to look at an ultrasound image and to listen to a detailed description of the fetus.
District Judge Bryan Dixon ruled the statute passed by the Oklahoma Legislature in 2010 is an unconstitutional special law
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
10:56 pm
Steve – USA (I support “None Of The Above”) :
They sure do !
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
10:58 pm
oops there goes another possible VP candidate or 2.
getalife
March 29th, 2012
11:00 pm
Mental health patient number.
In the future, they will discriminate against cons.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
11:03 pm
getalife:
Good one !
They BOTH suck
March 29th, 2012
11:06 pm
Have a great night and a better tomorrow
Peace
BADA BING
March 29th, 2012
11:07 pm
This is a pulic forum, and you can be banished at Jay’s bidding. Yet a golf club can’t set their own rules? A private club can’t do what they want? Rules only apply at some places, I guess.
kayaker 71
March 29th, 2012
11:09 pm
Bada Bing, 11:07,
It’s called highly selective indignation….. something that Bookman has managed to be very good at.
BADA BING
March 29th, 2012
11:09 pm
0311……..I havn’t seen Trayvon’s ultra sound baby pics yet. Tommorow maybe?
Satan
March 29th, 2012
11:09 pm
Tbs busy
kayaker 71
March 29th, 2012
11:13 pm
Outta here…. Thought for the day….. Just remember, you can’t drink all day if you don’t start in the morning. Tata.
barking frog
March 29th, 2012
11:13 pm
Bada Bing,
Jay has freedom of the
press to squelch bad
talk.
MastersMeister has
no such constitutional
freedom.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
11:13 pm
BADA:
No. They’re not going to show it because he was giving the technician the finger.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
11:15 pm
BADA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUTXb-ga1fo
BADA BING
March 29th, 2012
11:15 pm
0311……that wasn’t his finger
Jm - Bloomberg Troll Strikes Again!
March 29th, 2012
11:17 pm
bad news for Nikki Haley.
BADA BING
March 29th, 2012
11:23 pm
The Taliban bans women from being members. Anyone here going to protest over there? Sign up on this blog tomorrow.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
11:27 pm
BADA:
Even in this country they can’t even pray with the men. The have to go to the back of the bus …… I mean mosque.
I doubt JAY will have an editorial on that one. He just sticks to Catholics and Southern Baptists who don’t ordain women as priests/pastors.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
11:29 pm
BADA:
I love this one. I watch it everytime I need a “pick-me-up” ! I just wish it showed the finish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJQtF3iGzTA&feature=related
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
11:30 pm
bada – good luck finding someone other than Jay who had a problem and even he didn’t seem to have THAT much of a problem with it, he just thinks it’s backward. Try reading the blog a bit before you come on here and embarass yourself
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
11:31 pm
BADA @ 11:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
11:34 pm
BADA:
Is this him ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPbGPu5jySs&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL7E447E6B0F98B458
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
11:37 pm
Scout, that was pretty good. That guy knew how to throw a punch, got his shoulder into it. Funny how many bullies don’t really know how to fight.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
11:41 pm
For you folks still out there who can’t wait for all of the facts to come in on the Martin/Zimmerman debacle:
“12 year old kid (hardened thug) KO ‘ing a cop with his bare hands”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUHJ-Wq4PuY&feature=related
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 29th, 2012
11:44 pm
Don’t Forget:
Exactly. He was obviously a trained boxer.
The best thing to do in a street fight (if you have to) is never “box”. Close in as fast as you can nose to nose and use your elbows and knees (preferrably pinning your assailant to a wall or in a corner while you do it).
BP
March 29th, 2012
11:48 pm
JB
March 29th, 2012
6:42 pm
Yep sure you will, but right now, he has some people around who will shoot back. coward.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
11:58 pm
Scout – and keep
your hands UP. Although I think Frazier would have done fine in a street fight. Cracks me up to see how some guys flail their arms, no leverage and WIDE open.
Guess you saw this
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/29/10925357-us-soldier-dies-saving-afghan-girl
makes ya sad, makes ya proud.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 30th, 2012
12:02 am
Don’t Forget:
Exactly ! “Shorten the stick” (use the elbows) for more leverage !
Yes I did ……………. very sad.
Can’t wait for what JAY comes up with in the morning.
TAPS
TAPS !
Oscar
March 30th, 2012
12:40 am
BADA BING
March 29th, 2012
11:07 pm
This is a pulic forum, and you can be banished at Jay’s bidding. Yet a golf club can’t set their own rules? A private club can’t do what they want? Rules only apply at some places, I guess
__________
A social private club can do what they want. But a club where people come for business can’t. If Augusta National is a club that invites members because of business connections it no a private club entitled to do what it wants. If they invite her because she is CEO of IBM then I think they forfeit their private club designation. Legal technicalities.
Mr. Tullios
March 30th, 2012
1:50 am
With all the issues confronting us, this is the least of them.
Mr. Jay – Please write columns that affect real Americans; not the tribulations of a musterless, spoiled hag!
Fred ™
March 30th, 2012
5:43 am
No early morning peeps?
stands for decibels
March 30th, 2012
5:50 am
Fred, nope. I’m just giving a quick scan of the Tard Hour commentary, but will be back later.
Bud Wiser
March 30th, 2012
5:57 am
Okay.
Somebody from the left explain the so-called “big tax breaks” and all of the “subsidies” that oil companies that virtually every other company in the USA does not get.
Yawn.
I thought not.
The Journey
March 30th, 2012
6:01 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amv5UmSB2Bg
Fred ™
March 30th, 2012
6:03 am
Mystery Meat, I mean “The Journey” why do you feel the need to use a different alt every time you post the same song?
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 30th, 2012
6:13 am
Good Friday morning, all y’all…
Maybe I’ll go back to church for this…
http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/03/29/political-pictures-attendance-increases-exponentially/
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 30th, 2012
6:18 am
This one just because there’s a lot of it going around…
http://history.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/03/29/funny-pictures-history-hatred/
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 30th, 2012
6:37 am
I approve this message…
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/03/military-amvets-urges-affirmative-action-status-veterans-032812w/
the truth...
March 30th, 2012
7:00 am
You are an idiot……………….
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 30th, 2012
7:17 am
The Truth must be schizophrenic…
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 30th, 2012
7:19 am
I have no problem with Augusta keeping their little mens club all men…
I do wonder, however, how many of those men think it’s perfectly ok
for the men in government to invade a womans uterus.
stands for decibels
March 30th, 2012
7:27 am
how many of those men think it’s perfectly ok
for the men in government to invade a womans uterus.
Anyone think it’s NOT >95%?
stands for decibels
March 30th, 2012
7:30 am
Normal, good on AMVETS.
Arc of the universe is long, but it does bend toward justice, like Dr. King used to say.
stands for decibels
March 30th, 2012
7:33 am
Oh, and those in the GA Generally Assembly who voted for the stupid fetal pain bill know what they can do with a rusty chainsaw and sand for lube.
stevie ray
March 30th, 2012
7:37 am
Why is it anyone’s business who Augusta National admits? Jay, do you want the government to require private clubs admit whomever applies? If Augusta National wants to control who is admitted or at some point admit women, who cares? Why is it any of my business? They don’t need sponsorship to put on the tournament…..
1,756 more days (Obama) + 2,920 more days (Hilary) formerly known as Soothsayer
March 30th, 2012
7:38 am
If you bought a giant SUV or a monster pick ‘em up truck since the last oil shock of 2008, then this is for you! Every giant SUV and monster pick ‘em up truck owner should have one!
I know you’ll agree with me!
Doggone/GA
March 30th, 2012
7:42 am
“Why is it anyone’s business who Augusta National admits? Jay, do you want the government to require private clubs admit whomever applies?”
Either you didn’t read what Jay wrote…or you read it but didn’t understand it.
1,756 more days (Obama) + 2,920 more days (Hilary) formerly known as Soothsayer
March 30th, 2012
7:45 am
Forsyth County Sheriff passed out drunk discovered by paramedics after acquaintance calls 911.
I shore hope Redneck don’t find out about this!
Jimmy62
March 30th, 2012
7:45 am
On a sane planet, a private group has the right to decide their membership. Only in an insane authoritarian planet are other people able to decide the membership of a private group they don’t belong to.
Doggone/GA
March 30th, 2012
7:46 am
“Only in an insane authoritarian planet are other people able to decide the membership of a private group they don’t belong to.”
Someone else who either didn’t read what Jay wrote, or who didn’t understand it.
Alex
March 30th, 2012
7:47 am
This is a private club and they have the right to extend or deny membership to whom ever they feel would best suit there interests. If you have such an objection to it, don’t go there. We must, however, protect and respect private property rights.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 30th, 2012
7:48 am
If one feels the machinations of Augusta National are none of anyones business, why then comment?
It’s none of your business.
Doggone/GA
March 30th, 2012
7:49 am
“This is a private club and they have the right to extend or deny membership to whom ever they feel would best suit there interests”
And there’s a VERY good reason such clubs are called EXclusive.
TaxPayer
March 30th, 2012
7:52 am
I see the Georgia Republican Taliban League was hard at work under the gold dome last night.
Peadawg
March 30th, 2012
7:52 am
This is a private club and they have the right to extend or deny membership to whom ever they feel would best suit there interests. If you have such an objection to it, don’t go there.”
BINGO!
Becky
March 30th, 2012
7:54 am
After I win the lottery tonight I am going to buy Augusta National and turn it into a all gay club.
TaxPayer
March 30th, 2012
7:54 am
“Only in an insane authoritarian planet are other people able to decide the membership of a private group they don’t belong to.”
Republican men deciding women’s rights is insane.
Thomas
March 30th, 2012
7:57 am
The Congressional Black Caucus is an organization representing the black members of the United States Congress. Membership is exclusive to African-Americans,[1] and its chair in the 112th Congress is Representative Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri.
interesting..
Peadawg
March 30th, 2012
7:59 am
“Republican men deciding women’s rights is insane.”
Democrats making health insurance decisions for everyone is insane also.
Mighty Righty
March 30th, 2012
8:00 am
“I do find it interesting that the right feigned such horror at the thought that congress might approve a 2,000-page bill without reading it, yet celebrates when Scalia says he’s ready to declare that whole bill unconstitutional without reading it.”
I find it interesting that Jay doesn’t know supreme court judges make their decisions based on the constitution and evidence presented in court, not on what some portion of the public believes. They also are the only ones who determine whether something secretly snuck through in the middle of the night by a non representive congress acting in a dictatorial manner can impose its will on us.
Doggone/GA
March 30th, 2012
8:01 am
“BINGO!”
And if you had read the first page or two you would have seen that this has already been noted.
stands for decibels
March 30th, 2012
8:01 am
Either you didn’t read what Jay wrote…
I’ve long felt that the people who complain the loudest about Jay never read more than the headline and maybe ten, fifteen words in the lede, if that.
Doggone/GA
March 30th, 2012
8:02 am
“Democrats making health insurance decisions for everyone is insane also”
So, in your opinion Democrats are NOT in the exclusive club of “everyone”?
stands for decibels
March 30th, 2012
8:04 am
interesting..
Not as interesting as the Congressional White Caucus.
Adam
March 30th, 2012
8:07 am
RB: As I said, people USUALLY point out that his posts are stupid. And then he does respond sometimes, and sometimes not. Frankly if you have such a mancrush on him I am sure there are other, more constructive ways, of getting his attention.
JamVet
March 30th, 2012
8:07 am
And in this “private club” called JB’s forum, I’ve been busy smacking down the non-hoodied, but very suspicious, White Power elements that have infested it over the past few days.
Ain’t stopping today. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. So get used to getting your asses kicked, Lily Whites.
And threatening to run to daddy when the heat gets turned, ain’t gonna help.
Cuz I’m your daddy!
Campbell Brown
March 30th, 2012
8:08 am
Why the attacks on people giving their opinion on this? I still can’t get over the narrow – mindedness that seems to rule this area/country. Speaking your mind is still allowed. Have an intelligent argument without calling names would be impressive.
That being said, this is just another reminder that the state of Georgia is no less than 30 years behind the rest of the country on progressive ideals and movements. This is a fact not an attack.
It’s sad because I do love that golf tournament, but behind it sit a bunch of scared old men clinging on to what they think is their birth right and twisted view of how society should still be.
Wade Hampton
March 30th, 2012
8:08 am
Women will NEVER understand the humor in a perfectly-timed and well-tuned beer fluff.
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Therefore, they would utterly ruin the ambiance of a all-men club.
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Let the women and the Bookmans of the world have their Obama-knitting clubs.
Let the few remaining men have theirs.
Mick
March 30th, 2012
8:10 am
If the supremes knock down the whole health care bill, they will have lost the faith of a majority of the american people…
TaxPayer
March 30th, 2012
8:12 am
If Republican males continue on their path of trying to control women, they best get used to nothing more than male-only clubs. Go for it.
Howard
March 30th, 2012
8:12 am
On a smarter planet women would be in charge.
stands for decibels
March 30th, 2012
8:13 am
they will have lost the faith of a majority of the american people…
Meh. I think most Americans already see the SCOTUS as just another political power base. The Gooper appointed justices vote Gooper, and the Dem appointed justices vote Dem, on politically charged issues.
And if that’s the same as “losing faith” then I think that faith was lost back in Dec. of 2000, if not sooner.
Doggone/GA
March 30th, 2012
8:13 am
“On a smarter planet women would be in charge”
We’re working on it!
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 30th, 2012
8:13 am
Gentlemen
Just remember when working on your stance swing and grip….
God invented hands before he invented women.
Wade Hampton
March 30th, 2012
8:14 am
An ORGANIC beer fluff….I meant to add.
TaxPayer
March 30th, 2012
8:18 am
Democrats making health insurance decisions for everyone is insane also.
I don’t believe the Supremes consider themselves to all be Democrats. And they certainly do not claim to speak for everyone.
tl
March 30th, 2012
8:19 am
Does she even want to be a member? Did she bring this up or is it just you guys (after reading wetzels article on Yahoo) trying to stir the pot?
And women are allowed at “heaven on earth” im taking one next week.
Mighty Righty
March 30th, 2012
8:20 am
It is time Democrats learned the difference between a subsidy and a tax write off. A subsidy is a “payment” by one entity to another. A tax write off is a business expense that reduces the axable income of the business. The Obamanistas want the simple minded to think that the government some how gives money to oil companies. Not true. The government does not write checks to the oil companies. Every business is allowed to write off the cost of doing business. Oil companies are no different.
a Question
March 30th, 2012
8:25 am
Are there any all female private clubs in this country?
Doggone/GA
March 30th, 2012
8:26 am
“Are there any all female private clubs in this country?”
What’s the matter, is Google broken all of a sudden?
a Question
March 30th, 2012
8:26 am
Any all Jewish/Baptist/Hindu/Muslim clubs in this country?
a Question
March 30th, 2012
8:26 am
Any private clubs based soley on race?
a Question
March 30th, 2012
8:27 am
It’s a rhetorical question, doggie.
Gale
March 30th, 2012
8:28 am
I expect the SC to rule the ACA mandate unconstitutional, but leave the rest of the law and let Congress sort it out. They created the mess.
I expect Augusta to not allow female membership.
I expect to win Mega Millions tonight.
I may see one of these meet my expectations.
a Question
March 30th, 2012
8:28 am
Just trying to understand which private clubs we choose to persecute on the opinion pages…………
No Vahina's Please
March 30th, 2012
8:28 am
Sluts should not be allowed into Augusta. Especially high tech sluts. Next thing you know she would be asking to permit cell phones on the course.
stands for decibels
March 30th, 2012
8:29 am
We’re working on it!
yeah, we’re almost up to #78 on the list.
http://www.ipu.org/wmn-e/classif.htm
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
March 30th, 2012
8:29 am
SC judge Sonia Sotomayor was a member of the womans only Belizean Court club until she quit to become a SC judge. There are other womans only private clubs. It woman decide to do that I will still be able to sleep at night.
I think people just like to be upset about nothing nowadays. No wonder no one gets along anymore.
Women Win
March 30th, 2012
8:30 am
I bet Ginni could give ole Hootie a smack down.
Woodstock Mike
March 30th, 2012
8:30 am
So all women’s clubs are okay?? I love dumb liberal logic.
And here’s a classic example of complete hypocrisy. Why aren’t people marching the streets for these boys? You libs probably don’t even know anything about this horrible story…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9173820/Parents-of-murdered-British-students-criticise-Barack-Obama.html
stands for decibels
March 30th, 2012
8:31 am
trying to understand which private clubs we choose to persecute
now it’s “persecution” when a columnists suggests a private organization is backward.
oh the humanity and all of the passengers!
Gale
March 30th, 2012
8:31 am
dB The interesting thing is that the United Arab Emirates is higher.
JamVet
March 30th, 2012
8:31 am
It’s a rhetorical troll’s question, doggie.
Mick
March 30th, 2012
8:32 am
stands
Yes, the 2000 decision was a turning point – for the worst!!!
stands for decibels
March 30th, 2012
8:35 am
Gale, and Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bangladesh, and Morocco. That’s four majority-Muslim countries with better representation of women in government than the US, and I’ve probably missed a couple in there.
a Question
March 30th, 2012
8:36 am
Nothing like the old “troll” analogy when someone states something we don’t agree with. Nice one Jammie.
Delta is Ready when you are
March 30th, 2012
8:38 am
stands,
Have you applied for citizenship in any of these countries. Sounds like you are a fan of these. If it doesn’t work out maybe Pakistan will accept you. They had a female PM. Pretty sure they need you there to let them know how to run the country.
JamVet
March 30th, 2012
8:41 am
Woo Hoo! Name jacked at 8:34.
The trolling meat is reduced to that.
Niiice.
skipper
March 30th, 2012
8:44 am
I go back to an original point; if Martha Burk was the best a group could do, they were not really serious…………….
oblama
March 30th, 2012
9:00 am
Sharpton plays golf?
bob
March 30th, 2012
9:01 am
aquestion, back when Martha Burke was trying to raise money using Augusta, Bryant Gumbel interviewed Hootie and tried to make Hootie feel bad by not having women members. At the time of that interview, it was disclosed that Gumbel himself belonged to a men only club. You are correct, many private clubs, golf or otherwise, have restricted membership. The left goes after Augusta because it is the elite club run by men. This club has many rounds played by women and donate club time for womens college golf teams from the area.
oblama
March 30th, 2012
9:03 am
If the Fed was in charge of the Masters they would probably have been foreclosed on by now.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
March 30th, 2012
9:04 am
On a smarter planet we wouldn’t have liberal woosie weenies like you, Jay!
bob
March 30th, 2012
9:04 am
Doggone, what is taking so long, men are getting tired carrying the water !
rightwingextreme
March 30th, 2012
9:24 am
can whites join the congressional black caucus?? or males the national association of women???
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 30th, 2012
9:25 am
Granny:
Because a male has already “invaded” the uterus ……… females too !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McFCHzZVlWU&feature=related
Woodstock Mike
March 30th, 2012
9:27 am
Why are Democrats such wussies?? I’m so happy to not be a wussy!! When I look back growing up and see all who became hard lined liberals I found a connection… All wussies!!
Here we go!
March 30th, 2012
9:30 am
I come from a long line of woman’s libbers. I am female and have fought all my life for equal rights for the next generation, of which I have two. They in turn have taken up my cause. Two years ago we were in Augusta the weekend before the masters for a soccer tournament and one of my daughters got a history of the Masters. She was infuriated that woman were not allowed. As strongly as I feel Augusta is wrong in not allowing woman, I feel they have a right since they are private. I explained this to her (but she didn’t like it and to this day finds the Master disgusting). I do feel if men were smart, they would go to the board and demand this rule be changed. But, we are in Ga., where the redneck mentality still rules and the intelligence level is seen every two years on our voting record. Until woman raise their sons to make sure the “good ole boy network” isn’t cool anymore, this rule will stand. I fortunately, also have a son who loves his bro time, but will stand for woman’s rights down to being thankful he had a strong woman backing him while in Iraq and Afghantsan. The rule wil fall, it is just a matter of when.
Michael G.
March 30th, 2012
9:40 am
We have no problem barring men from universities like Spelman College, but women not granted membership at Augusta National (even though women are allowed to play rounds of golf there and are welcome on the grounds) is a travesty. Go figure. FWIW:Golf is an acronym that stands for Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden.
BADA BING
March 30th, 2012
9:41 am
Everyone wear a green hoodie in support of Augusta National.
Adam
March 30th, 2012
9:41 am
“Troll” is not an analogy. Just sayin’
JamVet
March 30th, 2012
9:44 am
Mike, your 9:27 is absolutely brilliant.
I can always count on you to keep the intellectual contributions to this forum coming.
Good work…
obama Sin Laden
March 30th, 2012
9:45 am
who gives a rats ars. its a private club and they will do what ever they want. not what ever u left wing sniveling ,blind,one size fits all communists want.
JamVet
March 30th, 2012
9:45 am
Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden.
On one (sophist) level kinda cute.
On the other, those gals on the LPGA could hit a seven iron farther down the fairway than Michael could a driver…
obama Sin Laden
March 30th, 2012
9:49 am
Also,why would someone want to be in the company of others that dont want you around. take ur balls and form ur own little club. whine whine, sniff sniff
George Stein
March 30th, 2012
10:08 am
The marginal value to extending a woman an invitation to join is zero. In the interim, I’ll continue to sit out of Junior League meetings.
TL
March 30th, 2012
10:13 am
Its a men’s club that hosts a men’s tournament. They just happen to be really good at it; if you dont like it, dont go. I can think of a few folks that would gladly take your badge off your hands.
Martha is free to create a women’s club that hosts a women’s tournament.
Final Solution
March 30th, 2012
10:13 am
Hey Billy, Invite her husband to be a member.
HGY
March 30th, 2012
10:20 am
How about if she hires back the 40-50K IBM US employees that have been offshored from Sam’s days that she be allowed membership – well add the 2K more that she just layed off….
ChrisATL
March 30th, 2012
10:24 am
HereWeGo!: But, we are in Ga., where the redneck mentality still rules and the intelligence level is seen every two years on our voting record. Until woman raise their sons to make sure the “good ole boy network” isn’t cool anymore, this rule will stand.
@HereWeGo!.. Your rationale is the perfect example of the common liberal argument. You stand up for everyone’s rights that align with the way you view things, but generalize disagreeing opinions as redneck and unintelligent. Are there some sexist people who are against women being admitted to Augusta? Sure. But the majority of commenters I’ve seen, that don’t agree with forcing the issue at Augusta, believe that because they believe in a PRIVATE organization’s RIGHT to admit whatever members it pleases. We are not talking about a public institution. People should have the right to pursue their own objectives, WITH WHOM they please, so long as they don’t interfere with someone else’s right to do the same. Women or any minority can start a group, charity, country club, etc. and admit who they want. Why should people be forced to admit members to their private organization that they don’t want to? There is NO INEQUALITY here. Women are more than welcome to start an organization and not allow men (they already do, btw, but I doubt you are clamoring about the injustice there).
rhester
March 30th, 2012
10:26 am
Here we go again, trying to pressure Augusta National into the woman thing. I thing if Burke and the media had just let nature takes it course you may have seen the first woman member. Now that the media and Ms Burke are talking about what they should do and should have done you may force them to flex the muscles and remind you that they will on their time schedule not anybody else’s. I could care less who is a member at Augusta, I don’t offered tickets from any of them and am not a major client to IBM either. I did enjoy Hooty beating down Martha when she thought she was so powerful she could force the issue!! No, I am not a male chauvinist either!
Mike
March 30th, 2012
10:26 am
Bookman, just shut up and go back to your Obama love in…
oblama
March 30th, 2012
10:28 am
Jessie wouldn’t let me in the Rainbow Coalition – got my lawyer working on it.
sheepdawg
March 30th, 2012
10:29 am
Georgia is the new Mississippi. This wouldn’t be an issue in a blue state.
oblama
March 30th, 2012
10:42 am
Jay – where do you stand on socialism – for or against it?
oblama
March 30th, 2012
10:46 am
What don’t you get? This is a private club – not funded or run by the government. Reminds me of the sex changer who wants to be MISS Universe or whatever. Sorry – if you weren’t born a woman you can’t be Miss Universe. AND if you weren’t born black you can’t be Miss Black Universe. Sounds fair to me.
oblama
March 30th, 2012
10:48 am
I know the NCAAP doesn’t want me . No hard feelings.
oblama
March 30th, 2012
10:53 am
Next thing you know people will want everyone to be asexual. Eliminate females and males and just have no sex at all. Clone everyone and make them all just alike. No races, no sexes, Would this be your ideal world? Sounds boring to me.
ChrisATL
March 30th, 2012
10:57 am
sheepdawg, this issue, for most people, isn’t about bigotry. Its about a private organizations right to congregate with, and only with, the people it chooses. This is a principled issue that applies to every demographic. A woman’s organization should not be forced to allow men into it if a few men are offended when they are denied entry. Same goes for every minority as well. No one is fighting for a white males rights above anybody else’s. No one at Augusta is exercising a right that every other minority does not have. You’re mischaracterizing the issue as sexist is ridiculous. Augusta probably would have let women in by now on their own accord if they weren’t forced to flex their freedom as a private organization to allow whomever they please.
christy
March 30th, 2012
10:57 am
I find it terrible that a company like IBM would associate itself with this close-minded country club. If we are to have a society without discrimination then we need to stop supporting clubs with backward ideas.
PMC
March 30th, 2012
11:00 am
If they didn’t put on the best of the four golf majors every year would anyone care if there was a private mens golf club in Augusta Georgia?
Here we go!
March 30th, 2012
11:05 am
ChrisATL – Read again what I posted. I do not disagree with what you said. It is a private organization and therefore have a right to do what they want. Doesn’t make it right, but they have a right. My remark about Ga. being redneck is not just about this issue. It is all the issues I have seen in the last 10 years. I have lived here all my life and this state is truly embarrassing. Look at education, the flag issue, Chip rogers stands for all paying their mortgages until it comes time for him to pay the bank on HIS default. These are the kinds of irresponsible people running and ruining our state. Yes I am liberal in my thinking, that doesn’t mean I think ONLY liberal people have the only good idea. I personally could care less about the Masters or mens clubs. I have no desire to go and if you want to go, great. I do think there will be a time whent he wall comes down and woman will be admitted. When, I don’t know. There are far too many serious issues going on in the world than worrying about a golf club who just admitted bAfrican Americans 12 years ago (because they had to) and still refuse to admit woman. I see it as their issue, not mine.
oblama
March 30th, 2012
11:05 am
Is the Girls Scouts wrong for being an organization for Girls? Personally I won’t be offended about it but maybe you will want to boycott them. Guess you don’t have more important things to do.
oblama
March 30th, 2012
11:06 am
“The View” has women “only” on their panel….. doesn’t bother me.
Wreck
March 30th, 2012
11:06 am
Wow, I actually agree with something Jay wrote. Must be a crazy Friday indeed. This is a very good organic opportunity for Augusta National to take that step without it being some feminist strongarm move. Good piece.
oblama
March 30th, 2012
11:09 am
“House Wives of Beverly Hills” won’t let me be a house wife on their show just because I’m a man. How offensive!
oblama
March 30th, 2012
11:13 am
In a leftist’s perfect world we would all be a clone all thinking and looking identically ….. of course we would have to be just like them. Individuality and differences of opinion would not be acceptable.
BADA BING
March 30th, 2012
11:51 am
Let Chaz Bono join, then the ladies could claim a partial victory. Everybody wins!
Buckshot
March 30th, 2012
11:52 am
It is a PRIVATE CLUB!!!!! You bleeding liberals kill me! Invest your money and time into your own club if you want. Leave Augusta National alone.
alphadog
March 30th, 2012
1:30 pm
Augusta National should do what it did in the past. They admitted a token Black member and we never heard about the issue again. I doubt if he ever stepped foot on the first tee.
alphadog
March 30th, 2012
1:56 pm
I was going to say that the token Black member invited to join in 1990 never darken the door at Augusta National, and we haven’t heard anything about that issue since. Invite Ginny, let her say yes or no, and move on.
skipper
March 31st, 2012
2:32 pm
Last rhetorical statement; if Martha Burk was the best they could do they weren’t serious to begin with.