A new ABC News/Washington Post poll says a lot about the challenges facing Mitt Romney in his effort to remove Barack Obama from the White House.

According to the poll, Romney faces a 17-point deficit among registered voters: 35 percent view him favorably, 52 percent view him unfavorably. The splits for Barack Obama are 53 percent favorable; 45 percent unfavorable.
Complicating matters even further, the more that people see Romney, the less they appear to like him. Back in September, just 31 percent of Americans viewed him unfavorably, which means it has jumped almost 20 points since then.
And as ABC News points out, “Romney’s rated favorably by 44 percent of Americans with incomes of $100,000 or more, 13 points better than his score among those with less-than middle incomes. Obama’s favorable ratings exceed 50 percent across income groups.”
In the history of the poll, only one major candidate has had higher unfavorable numbers than Romney. That was Hillary Clinton in April of 2008, with 54 percent of Americans viewing her unfavorably. At the time, 39 percent had a strongly unfavorable view of the former First Lady, which is no surprise since by that point she had been the target of an intense, 15-year demonization effort by conservatives.
(That’s useful to remember when conservatives now try to claim that they would have been much more supportive of a President Hillary Clinton than of a President Obama. No, they would not. In fact, part of Obama’s appeal to many liberals was the hope that he would not inspire the blind, angry antipathy directed at Hillary Clinton and before that at her husband. That hope proved vain.)
– Jay Bookman
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Robert Lee
March 28th, 2012
4:45 pm
First
Robert Lee
March 28th, 2012
4:47 pm
Romney will never bridge that gap to the common person. The funny thing is that so many people will vote for him no matter what, as long as its not Obama, regardless of the benefit or detriment to the country. So sad.
Lord Help Us
March 28th, 2012
4:49 pm
Obama in ‘12, Hillary in ‘16 and ‘20.
Done…
ByteMe - insurance thug
March 28th, 2012
4:54 pm
That hope proved vain
Hope was in the air.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 28th, 2012
4:54 pm
It’s hard to warm up to a cold fish….but it is funny to watch them flop around on the deck.
Poor ole’ Mitt.
ByteMe - insurance thug
March 28th, 2012
4:56 pm
At the outset of the call, Romney said he has some connections to Wisconsin.
“One of most humorous I think relates to my father. You may remember my father, George Romney, was president of an automobile company called American Motors … They had a factory in Michigan, and they had a factory in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and another one in Milwaukee, Wisconsin,” said Romney. “And as the president of the company he decided to close the factory in Michigan and move all the production to Wisconsin. Now later he decided to run for governor of Michigan and so you can imagine that having closed the factory and moved all the production to Wisconsin was a very sensitive issue to him, for his campaign.”
Romney said he recalled a parade in which the school band marching with his father’s campaign only knew the Wisconsin fight song, not the Michigan song.
“So every time they would start playing ‘On, Wisconsin, On, Wisconsin,’ my dad’s political people would jump up and down and try to get them to stop, because they didn’t want people in Michigan to be reminded that my dad had moved production to Wisconsin,” said Romney, laughing.
Ah the good old days of laying people off….
ByteMe - insurance thug
March 28th, 2012
4:57 pm
BTW, the above was from today.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/144683485.html
Mr. Snarky
March 28th, 2012
4:57 pm
Most people don’t warm to weasels…except for other weasels…unless the alternative is a cuckoo.
Whahema
March 28th, 2012
4:58 pm
They may or may not warm to Mitt but the American people are hot at Obama for his lies, deceptions and incompetence. This is not a good week for Barack
ByteMe - popularity goon
March 28th, 2012
4:58 pm
<– this calls for another wardrobe change….
ByteMe - popularity goon
March 28th, 2012
5:00 pm
the American people are hot at Obama for his lies, deceptions and incompetence.
Sure. Over 50% are just fine with him, according to real data. Your data? Bet you don’t have anything.
arnold
March 28th, 2012
5:01 pm
There are plenty of weasly GOPers to vote for Mitt.
Lord Help Us
March 28th, 2012
5:01 pm
‘This is not a good week for Barack’
And he just got news that he is polling well ahead of the GOP candidates in the critical swing states. Poor guy…
getalife
March 28th, 2012
5:01 pm
willard is a flip flop.
Four more years.
ByteMe - popularity goon
March 28th, 2012
5:02 pm
Romney’s problem is that his entire set of life experiences does not allow him to properly “connect” with the average voter he’s trying to win over. He’ll win over the country club crowd, but they don’t elect Presidents… except for those of the country club.
Robert Lee
March 28th, 2012
5:02 pm
Well, the people at Fox news keep telling everyone that the whole country is angry at Obama so it has to be true doesn’t it? They would not lie or distort the truth would they?
Stonethrower
March 28th, 2012
5:05 pm
Don’t need a leader we can cuddle up with but a true leader! Mitt was groomed for this job.
St Simons- island off the coast of New Somalia
March 28th, 2012
5:05 pm
“if yah unfavorables are ovah 30, yah can just pack up & go home”
-James Carville Jefferson & Dick Morris Jefferson
yeah, this one’s over. But its gonna be a knock-down catfight in ‘16
between Elizabeth Warren & Hillary.
getalife
March 28th, 2012
5:09 pm
stoned,
How much does that wealthy water weigh?
Stonethrower
March 28th, 2012
5:11 pm
About 1/2
Mr. Snarky
March 28th, 2012
5:12 pm
Mitt would be an excellent Country Club President! Sounds like a back up plan if the POTUS thing doesn’t work out.
Mr. Snarky
March 28th, 2012
5:13 pm
He’s definitely groomed…that’s all I’ll say.
Mitt Zombie
March 28th, 2012
5:13 pm
To be fair, candidates frequently see their approval rankings decline as the population gains knowledge of their platform and background. When a candidate is allowed to present themselves via vague platitudes, people can fill in the blanks with their own beliefs so less is more. Studies show that appearance is of paramount importance in people’s selection so Governor Romney benefits from a more Presidential face and height than the GOP alternatives, all the more reason to keep policy to a minimum. As such he tried to navigate the campaign at 40,000 feet, and even recently said that he was not going to get into specifics on certain policy matters because he knew those positions would only serve to harm him down the road, (http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/risk-averse-romney_634427.html). Unfortunately for him, his pesky competitors have forced him to answer for his former flexible positions and revealed him to be even a bigger opportunist than the average candidate, thus tanking his approval ratings.
gadem
March 28th, 2012
5:15 pm
poor Mr. Romney…it appears that he needs to go back to the corporate board rooms
TaxPayer
March 28th, 2012
5:15 pm
I just don’t see why Republicans cannot warm up to Mitt. After all, there’s a version suitable for every taste.
barking frog
March 28th, 2012
5:17 pm
Mitt will be more flexible
after the election.
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5:20 pm
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Beverly Fraud
March 28th, 2012
5:21 pm
I always thought Mitt had a sort of David Bowie-like kind of coolness about him.
Agreed?
(Crickets chirping)
Mr. Snarky
March 28th, 2012
5:22 pm
“After all, there’s a version suitable for every taste.”
Sort of like a Ken Doll with money.
Paul
March 28th, 2012
5:22 pm
Well, he can always press ‘reset’ after the convention.
getalife
March 28th, 2012
5:23 pm
Car elevators and mansions.
Mormon moderate.
No wonder the cons hate him.
Paul
March 28th, 2012
5:24 pm
Beverly
I’ve seen David Bowie up close. Like arm’s length close. He was definitely cool.
I’ve seen Mitt only on tv. Mitt as ‘cool’ just doesn’t compute. But I’ll reset the color temp on the tv and let you know if that works -
Common Sense isn't very Common
March 28th, 2012
5:26 pm
ByteMe – popularity goon
Romney’s problem is that his entire set of life experiences does not allow him to properly “connect” with the average voter he’s trying to win over.
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Romney’s problem is that his entire set of life experiences does not allow him to properly “connect” with the average voter he’s trying to win over?
with all the flip flopping it’s more like lying to win over LOL
Vo Mitt 2012
Beverly Fraud
March 28th, 2012
5:28 pm
Paul maybe Mitt’s fame just makes him loose and hard to swallow for the average Joe.
Or maybe he just needs a cool nickname; Mitty Ice perhaps?
(crickets chirping)
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 28th, 2012
5:31 pm
Well, poor Mr. Mormon Underpants reminds me alot of Stinky Winklebum. Poor Stinky run around firing off stink-bombs from his butt all the time. Nobody would get close enough to him to talk to him. And Stinky never was able to figure out why people never liked him or wanted to have anything to do with him.
Well, Mr. Mormon Underpants has something like the same kind of problem. Except the stink-bombs come from his mouth, not his butt. He says stuff like how he likes to fire people or how his wife drives around in a pair of Cadillacs as their run-around cars. And he thinks if he walks around in one of his $100 dress shirts with the sleeves rolled up then he’s just being a regular guy.
The worst part is he’ll go around the rest of his life wondering why people don’t take to him. He might as well let go of some stink-bombs from his butt. He’s as clueless as Stinky Winklebum.
Real Scootter
March 28th, 2012
5:32 pm
Or maybe he just needs a cool nickname; Mitty Ice perhaps?
Ice Mittens?
Real Scootter
March 28th, 2012
5:34 pm
Redneck Convert (R–and proud of it)
March 28th, 2012
5:31 pm
getalife
March 28th, 2012
5:35 pm
wish washy willard.
Fred ™
March 28th, 2012
5:35 pm
I can’t seem to make myself shive a git about this topic.
William
March 28th, 2012
5:37 pm
Paul, from downstairs:
“William
“Frankly, I think a definition is very difficult apart from those explicitly defined in the Bill of Rights.”
I think so, too. This topic has been on the blog several times. I’ve approached it from a legal standpoint but that didn’t resonate too well with some bloggers. What I walked away with was what I see in so many cases: if it’s something I don’t like, it’s “N.” If it’s something I do like then it IS “N.” (But I’ll probably ignore the concept and rename it ’cause it feels better that way).
I do agree that states – and it’s an established principle – are free to define rights not enumerated at the federal level.
And at the federal level, I’ll offer what we see as a right changes and evolves over time. We now view primary education as a right and band together to provide it, even if we’ve no children in school. Greater good and all that.”"
Thanks for the thoughtful response. I would like to try an experiment with you, to see if people from different ends of the ideological spectrum (if indeed we are) can reach agreement about constitutional issues. If you are up for that, I will proceed with more dialog.
Paul
March 28th, 2012
5:38 pm
Beverly
Pres Obama’s been criticized by some here for being aloof, too professorial, acting above it all.
But I’ll submit people look at his life experiences and think he has a certain empathy for others that’s based on a fundamental view of how our country should work.
Maybe Romney has that same outlook. But his life experiences – those publicized, anyway – don’t communicate that. I’ve read a couple accounts of ‘average guy’ interactions with him in some tough situations and they give him high marks for compassion. But his campaign has said they want to keep those sorts of things out of the campaign so we’re left with some pretty superficial stuff upon which to base our opinions.
And I think for a lot of people, they find whatever they want to support their preconceived notions.
Real Scootter
March 28th, 2012
5:39 pm
I hear ya Fred! I’m going to play poker tonight.
Lord Help Us
March 28th, 2012
5:39 pm
I think Willard should pick a running mate that, while not suitable for the office, helps him shore up his conservative cred…since that worked so well last time…
Paul
March 28th, 2012
5:41 pm
William
LOL! If you can figure out which end of the spectrum I’m at, you’re doing better than I am!
But seriously, I don’t mind those discussions at all. But I do like to hold off on them until the thread topic has been run into the ground and others have seriously gone off the rails.
William
March 28th, 2012
5:42 pm
“A new ABC News/Washington Post poll says a lot about the challenges facing Mitt Romney in his effort to remove Barack Obama from the White House.”
Therein lies the fallacy of many of your arguments, Jay: they rely upon transient polls. As I recall, Reagan was at a sizable disadvantage versus Carter weeks before the election. Even if I am not recalling that right, history shows that polls this far out are unreliable if not meaningless.
Real Scootter
March 28th, 2012
5:42 pm
Hey getalife,don’t worry over 4 more years.It’s going to happen!
ByteMe - popularity goon
March 28th, 2012
5:42 pm
with all the flip flopping it’s more like lying to win over LOL
I’m actually being nice here. I’m not addressing his ever-changing positions, but the way he tries to connect to people on the stump. And it’s just painfully bad. Worse than John McCain bad. Worse than John Kerry bad. Even Bush I felt more like talking with your kindly old rich uncle on the stump. Romney just feels like he’s trying sooo hard to be liked that you can’t help but not like him.
Common Sense isn't very Common
March 28th, 2012
5:43 pm
Lord Help Us
you think Sarah is available? how about Dan Quayle?
ByteMe - popularity goon
March 28th, 2012
5:43 pm
As I recall, Reagan was at a sizable disadvantage versus Carter weeks before the election
then maybe you might recall how often polling was being done back then in the dark ages?
Give you a hint: it wasn’t daily or even every other day.
Beverly Fraud
March 28th, 2012
5:44 pm
“Maybe Romney has that same outlook.”
Well if he does, he (or his handlers) are doing a really lousy job of conveying that.
Moderate Line
March 28th, 2012
5:45 pm
At this point I don’t think the unfavorable are a factor. The most important factor will be gas prices. If they continue to go up and the economy slows down the Republicans will be able to nominate anyone they want and they will win.
All that being said Romney will have to go through negative adds by Obama and by his fellow Republicans which will surely have a very negative affect on his favorably ratings. However, it remains to be seen whether the unfavorable ratings are malleable for a candidate his not national known.
Political scientist James Campbell, an expert on election forecasting, calculates that the weakest third-year economic growth (change in GDP adjusted for inflation) since 1952 for winning incumbents has been 2.5 percent (Clinton in 1996 and Bush in 2004). The economy grew 1.7 percent in Obama’s third year.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/03/04/its_absurd_to_think_obama_has_already_won_romney_george_will_goldwater_113359-2.html
Lord Help Us
March 28th, 2012
5:46 pm
‘you think Sarah is available?’
Nah, Sarah ain’t gonna play second fiddle again…she’s a real leader now (as evidenced by her quitting in the middle of her governorship)
Common Sense isn't very Common
March 28th, 2012
5:47 pm
ByteMe
I think you are correct. But the Mitt that was gov. of Mass. isn’t the one campaigning for Pres.
He would lose the far right (which he seems to have already lost) and the moderates don’t like what they hear.
Sad to say he’s like the rich kid in high school nobody liked but would go to his parties for the FREE beer
William
March 28th, 2012
5:47 pm
“But seriously, I don’t mind those discussions at all. But I do like to hold off on them until the thread topic has been run into the ground and others have seriously gone off the rails.”
Great. I propose that we have a simple “format” of sorts. I would suggest it be no more than each of us alternately bringing up an “issue” we think is problematic or foundational and we talk it through until we are satisfied we have settled things as best we can. Then move on to the next issue. And this will transpire over the coming weeks at convenient times. To find each others posts, all we need to do is click on the View All button and perform a page search. Sound good? Do you have any other recommendations?
TaxPayer
March 28th, 2012
5:47 pm
Mitt Romney could be the Batman. I mean, what other reason could he have for a car elevator. And if he picks Santorum as his running mate, that’ll prove it because Rick Santorum is definitely Robin. I saw him deliver a BOOM! POW! WHAM! on a reporter that started getting a little too close to the truth.
pogo
March 28th, 2012
5:47 pm
Uh, if I were you liberals I wouldn’t crow too much about flip-flopping. Just 4 short years ago Obama was skewering Hillary Clinton about a healthcare insurance mandate and about how he didn’t believe that people should be made by the Federal Government to buy health insurance. All of those tapes are on file and they will be played. Should I bring up more about Obama’s “flip-flopping” from the 2008 campaign? Liberals only believe it is flip-flopping if the one who is seen as doing it is a republican amd that makes them what? The word “hypocrite” comes to mind. The only other explanation is that they are just plain dumb. As for Romney having money, at least he earned his in the private sector and not on the backs of the American taxpayer as Obama has. Obama buys buses made in Canada (courtesy of the American taxpayer) to campaign in and he flies around in AF1 (which is also paid for by the American taxpayers) to attend fundraisers for his campaign but you liberals have no problem with that, do you? No, most of you liberals wouldn’t have a problem with that as you are more than likely not having to pay taxes to finance his extravegance. Obama is really, really good at playing his base for suckers and he knows that they will blindly follow him no matter what he does.
And Jay, I wouldn’t put too much into this poll you have here. Afterall, it comes from two of the most liberal media sources this country has. Knowing that, there is absolutely no way that the poll could be biased, could it? Jay you and your liberal polls are laughable. The America people no longer believe polls as they are all open to political bias by the pollsters. The real truth will be seen in November. Let’s just hope that Jay doesn’t put up a Pravda poll in support of Obama because we know the Putin loves him. Of course, I wouldn’t be surprised if Jay did put one up.
Mr. Snarky
March 28th, 2012
5:48 pm
“Reagan was at a sizable disadvantage versus Carter weeks before the election.”
That was before the 24 hour news cycle and the overexposure that accompanies it…so good luck with that.
Jay
March 28th, 2012
5:49 pm
And just for the record, I don’t believe for a moment that this race is over. A lot of things can and will happen between now and November. At this point in 2008, most people had no idea whatsoever that the economy was about to suffer its biggest crash since the Great Depression.
However, I do find these numbers interesting. All else being equal, I’m not sure Romney has the personal appeal needed to turn them around.
William
March 28th, 2012
5:50 pm
“Then maybe you might recall how often polling was being done back then in the dark ages? Give you a hint: it wasn’t daily or even every other day.”
The frequency of the polling is immaterial. All polls do is reflect the changeableness or fickleness or moodiness of the electorate. THAT is what is material, and that hasn’t changed since 1979.
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
5:50 pm
Yet in the head to head match up polls Obama and Romney have stayed within a few points of each other. I wouldn’t bet on a Romney win but I certainly wouldn’t bet in favor of an Obama win.
DannyX
March 28th, 2012
5:50 pm
CNN poll out today shows Obama 54% leading Romney 43%.
Mitt Romney should not be wasting his time trying to get a car elevator for his California beach house.
He should look into an elevator that will work on his popularity. How much do those cost?
Thulsa Doom with his boot on liberal throats
March 28th, 2012
5:51 pm
Beverly Fraud
March 28th, 2012
5:21 pm
I always thought Mitt had a sort of David Bowie-like kind of coolness about him.
Agreed?
(Crickets chirping)
Well now that’s the whole problem. People voting for a potus based on how “cool” they percieve him to be. That’s how we got in the mess we are in now with an eminently supremely unqualified man who was “cool” enough to win the presidency with our American Idol obsessed culture. Damn shame that that’s how people want to choose a president. God help us from these people.
Common Sense isn't very Common
March 28th, 2012
5:51 pm
Jay – Mitt has plenty of appeal. He has a years supply stockpiled in his basement next to the canned goods
Bernie
March 28th, 2012
5:53 pm
This Poll does not Bode well at all for the Republican and Tea Party supporters. A LOTTO trifector voting bloc has all but been assured in November, because of the self righteous arrogance of these two groups. Even if President OBAMA”S healthcare plan fails in June, Democrat control of both houses will allow for a second successful attempt in insuring Healthcare for ALL Americans.
TaxPayer
March 28th, 2012
5:54 pm
All Mitt the Batman Romney has to do is answer one bat signal and save the day and he’s a shoe-in. I propose $2.50/gal gas.
William
March 28th, 2012
5:54 pm
“All else being equal, I’m not sure Romney has the personal appeal needed to turn them around.”
Did you see him on Leno last night? I don’t usually watch his show, but when I saw it advertised that Mitt was his guest, I tuned in. He was well received by the audience and seemed pretty normal to me.
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
5:56 pm
Rasmussen today shows Obama up one point. Prior polls have had Romney in the lead position. All the polls with exception of Reuters, CNN and the Pew have it neck and neck.
Common Sense isn't very Common
March 28th, 2012
5:56 pm
Since Mitt isn’t allowed to buy drinks for the voters maybe he can buy votes with gas
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
5:56 pm
“and he flies around in AF1 (which is also paid for by the American taxpayers) to attend fundraisers for his campaign but you liberals have no problem with that, do you?”
yeah Bush surely increase his frequently flier miles using Delta and paying with his own credit card………… I think they said he had earned medallion status
Boy you are ate up with the D.A.
getalife
March 28th, 2012
5:59 pm
“Obama 54% leading Romney 43%”
Looks like you are right Scooter.
Lord Help Us
March 28th, 2012
5:59 pm
Recon, wishful thinking…
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Lots of blue…
DannyX
March 28th, 2012
6:00 pm
The Republican platform right now is “Obama is raising gas prices.”
It doesn’t seem to be working, a Quinnipiac poll of Florida voters released today shows only 1 in 6 blame Obama for high gas prices. Republicans better go to plan B, Obama is a communist Muslim born in Kenya. (That same poll has Obama up by 7 over Romney in Florida.)
Paul
March 28th, 2012
6:00 pm
William
Sounds good. But I have to warn you, I’m not a Constitutional scholar and I reserve full right, after expressing an opinion and finding a holding that’s at odds, to say “oops, that’s the settled law so it’s time to change my view.”
Paul
March 28th, 2012
6:01 pm
William
And I see many of Jay’s topics falling well within the sphere you’ve described. So many of the discussions could easily be handled in that context.
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
6:01 pm
I think someone mentioned oil and gas prices
While both sides love to play politics in terms of what the Pres can and can’t do, it is mostly BS on this issue on both sides
With that said, it will play a factor if we are looking at $4.50 or something like that
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
6:02 pm
Lord Help Us, right it’s what I said. No wishful thinking here.
Brosephus™
March 28th, 2012
6:03 pm
Fred
From downstairs… If I felt the need to say something about you, I am man enough to say so without changing names or mincing words. My comment about that song was because of the music and not you. You are an ok guy, but you gotta realize that not everybody’s trying to attack you. Jay can attest to my ability to convey my opinions when I have something to say. I don’t know who that person was, and I don’t care. I don’t have any issue with you, so you can chill with the accusations. However, if you want me to have a problem with you, keep falsely accusing me of something.
DannyX
March 28th, 2012
6:03 pm
At this point Romney can use all the help he can get.
Time to get W out of his self-imposed public exile so he can hit the campaign trail with Romney.
Things are that bad for Romney.
William
March 28th, 2012
6:03 pm
“Rasmussen today shows Obama up one point. Prior polls have had Romney in the lead position. All the polls with exception of Reuters, CNN and the Pew have it neck and neck.”
Thanks, Scout. Jay often uses certain “angles” or “pieces of evidence” or “passions” to help sell his argument – even if they do not, from a strictly logically rather than rhetorical standpoint, support it. He has to write daily for the public to earn his proverbial keep, which is no easy task. I think a lot of this is semi-conscious (as are many of our actions and utterances).
Lord Help Us
March 28th, 2012
6:04 pm
‘All the polls with exception of Reuters, CNN and the Pew have it neck and neck.’
If it were ‘neck and neck’ one would think there would be a least some red in there…
CHEVY runs deep!!!
March 28th, 2012
6:06 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU27XO5vB2k
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
6:06 pm
William you’re indeed welcome, however I’m Recon AKA Del.
Jay
March 28th, 2012
6:07 pm
No, WIlliam, I didn’t see him on Leno.
I think Romney can be genuine at times, but when he is, he’s much more prone to saying things that are a little too honest about his world view, such as the earlier quoted remarks in which he laughed about his dad closing factories.
Sure, factories do have to close some times. But people don’t like a man who can laugh about it, especially in times like these.
Brosephus™
March 28th, 2012
6:07 pm
As to Romney, if he ain’t on a stripper pole, nothing matters at this point.
Beverly Fraud
March 28th, 2012
6:08 pm
Maybe Mitt could go on tour with Up With People.
That would add to his “cool” factor.
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
6:08 pm
“If it were ‘neck and neck’ one would think there would be a least some red in there…”
Read tea leaves anyway you wish. I merely alluded to the polls as of today.
JamVet
March 28th, 2012
6:09 pm
Mitt Romney is the worst Republican in the country to put up against Barack Obama. He is an inconsistent figure who cannot be trusted and an “Etch-A-Sketch candidate” whose positions change as easily as pictures on the children’s toy. He is uniquely disqualified to be the GOP’s presidential pick.
From that way out there, arch-liberal nutjob……………………..Rick Santorum.
Man, I love the smell of Republican cannibalism in the evening…
getalife
March 28th, 2012
6:09 pm
Another CNN poll shows the American majority blame w for the collapse of our economy.
The collective amnesia failed.
There is always 16 cons.
Beverly Fraud
March 28th, 2012
6:10 pm
Campaign slogan: He’s Mitt-TASTIC!
Would that help?
(Crickets chirping)
William
March 28th, 2012
6:11 pm
“Sounds good. But I have to warn you, I’m not a Constitutional scholar and I reserve full right, after expressing an opinion and finding a holding that’s at odds, to say “oops, that’s the settled law so it’s time to change my view.”
You appear to be smart, capable of research, articulate, reasonable and to have means enough to buy a book or two (as I have). That’s all I believe is needed. I am no Constitutional scholar either. And hopefully, that is what will keep us from deciding something like not engaging in commerce is commerce (a SCOTUS opinion).
“And I see many of Jay’s topics falling well within the sphere you’ve described. So many of the discussions could easily be handled in that context.”
Fair enough. Does anyone else with the above stated qualifications wish to join this discussion over the coming weeks?
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
6:11 pm
People don’t like presidents who avoid responsibility, especially in times like these.
JamVet
March 28th, 2012
6:11 pm
Someone needs to mitt-igate this damage. And fast! (groan)
getalife
March 28th, 2012
6:15 pm
No scandals, no attacks, no drama and no new wars.
You can’t beat him cons.
Bow down.
Fred ™
March 28th, 2012
6:17 pm
Brosephus™
March 28th, 2012
6:03 pm
Fred
From downstairs… If I felt the need to say something about you, I am man enough to say so without changing names or mincing words. My comment about that song was because of the music and not you. You are an ok guy, but you gotta realize that not everybody’s trying to attack you. Jay can attest to my ability to convey my opinions when I have something to say. I don’t know who that person was, and I don’t care. I don’t have any issue with you, so you can chill with the accusations. However, if you want me to have a problem with you, keep falsely accusing me of something.
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You missed the joke about being baptist with french ancestry? Or didn’t get it? I can’t help that.
Speaking of you Bookman board elitist scum, where has Josef been lately? Anyone know?
Gotta go cook supper. May be back later. I dunno. Romney doesn’t excite me and I think something HAS to be on television tonight more interesting. Isn’t there a televised paint drying contest on the Home Improvement channel?
JamVet
March 28th, 2012
6:17 pm
I’m predicting that Newt wins the nomination in a neutered and broken convention.
Nah, just kidding.
Mitt Mountebank will be the second coming of John McCain. But who will his Sarah Palin be? Inquiring minds want to know.
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
6:19 pm
Fred
After reading Bro’s post @ 6:03; I went back downstairs to see what you had posted.
With the atrocious typing that I usually display; I’m sure you figured out it was me who posted the songs.
The Casey Kasem bit, while pretty witty for being on the fly, may have come across to you as demeaning. That was not my intent. The intent was to lighten up the situation.
Keep posting and whether it be under TBS or Casy Kasem sending out requests, hopefully we can continue to dialogue seriously on certain issues and joke about others….
peace
Lord Help Us
March 28th, 2012
6:20 pm
‘Inquiring minds want to know.’
He could pick the real Snooki…equally suited for the job and already has a huge following…
William
March 28th, 2012
6:21 pm
“I think Romney can be genuine at times, but when he is, he’s much more prone to saying things that are a little too honest about his world view, such as the earlier quoted remarks in which he laughed about his dad closing factories. Sure, factories do have to close some times. But people don’t like a man who can laugh about it, especially in times like these.”
I would agree with your impression, Jay. But let me tell you a story to entice you to think a little more deeply about him. When I was an undergrad I had a neighbor my parents age whose father had Alzheimer’s disease. I was mortified one night when, after a dinner he invited my father and me to, he recounted something funny his father had done and laughed uproariously. I thought: how callous can a man be? That was until my grandmother came down with it as well and my mother related to me how funny something Mimi had done was. She had seen a little girl in the supermarket with her mother who, feeling insecure, ducked under the long dress her mother was wearing. My grandmother, thinking only to play with this girl, promptly went up to the lady, lifted her dress above her waist and said “boo” to the little girl. Like Jake, my neighbor, I laughed uproariously when I heard that. The moral of the story? Sometime a laugh is just a laugh.
DannyX
March 28th, 2012
6:21 pm
Rasmussen has Obama up in almost every swing state vs Romney
+8 Ohio
+9 Virginia
+5 Wisconsin
+3 Florida
+1 Pennsylvania
Lord Help Us
March 28th, 2012
6:22 pm
‘Rasmussen has Obama up in almost every swing state vs Romney’
It’s just ‘neck and neck’ by some standards…
Thulsa Doom with his boot on liberal throats
March 28th, 2012
6:22 pm
“such as the earlier quoted remarks in which he laughed about his dad closing factories.”
Reminds me of when Obama laughed about those promised shovel ready jobs not being so shovel ready after all.
getalife
March 28th, 2012
6:24 pm
“GOP Lawmakers Pass ‘Birther’ Bill”
Worst congress ever.
Jay
March 28th, 2012
6:26 pm
I get that, William. But on a campaign call with voters, a laugh can be a lot more than a laugh, A presidential candidate lives by different rules.
Brosephus™
March 28th, 2012
6:28 pm
Fred
I missed that part. The French ancestry is on the other branch of the tree, the one with that elitist you mentioned. I haven’t seen/heard from him today.
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They BOTH
You suck as a DJ…..
My diet consists of metal, funk, and rap. I don’t do that sappy stuff.
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
6:31 pm
“All else being equal, I’m not sure Romney has the personal appeal needed to turn them around.”
It’s over. O’bozo wins. Let’s just call off the election now.
Not so fast. Mitt is in a primary battle. The LSM is circling the wagons for their man while Mitt, Rick, and Newt are taking shots at each other. Once the nominee is decided, things change markedly.
Gas is $3.81. Unemployment is 8.3%. Obamacare will be declared unconstitutional. O’bozo and his LSM compatriots won’t say the word “stimulus.” O’bozo’s EPA has shut down new coal plants making AC prices necessarily skyrocket, as he desired. The debt continues to grow with no end in sight. Iran is getting the bomb.
Just some highlights for y’all.
Bottom line: long way to go. And polling “registered voters” is lame. Lamer still is quoting those polls.
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
6:32 pm
Bro
Casey always found a tune that fit the situation (even when the tune SUCKED)……. and that was the best of the best for the situation and the joke itself
It isn’t good to laugh at your own jokes before others laugh do but when I was reading the back and forths and the word “elite” came in……….. for some reason Casey Kasem came to mind and I was cracking up
I knew I had to post something
William
March 28th, 2012
6:32 pm
“I get that, William. But on a campaign call with voters, a laugh can be a lot more than a laugh, A presidential candidate lives by different rules.”
I will concede that he does not have the degree of self-awareness he should have as a presidential candidate, or at least as much as you or I like. But he has been married to one woman for thirty something years and has five seemingly good kids. And an effective ad I saw for him recounts how he shut down a business to help one of his employees find his daughter missing in NYC. These are not the marks of an bad man.
Brosephus™
March 28th, 2012
6:33 pm
Where’s Mitt’s #1 cheerleader, jm? This thread has his name all over it.
JamVet
March 28th, 2012
6:34 pm
The one demographic that will most interest me in Obama’s victory will be the female vote.
Is it possible that Romney will lose it by 15 percentage points? 20? 25?
And it really won’t be his fault. He just never renounced his party’s war on women so he’s gonna pay the price…
William
March 28th, 2012
6:34 pm
“My diet consists of metal, funk, and rap. I don’t do that sappy stuff.”
One of the things I always liked about Steely Dan was they way they fused jazz with pop. Very unique.
Jay
March 28th, 2012
6:34 pm
I agree, William. He’s not a bad man. But too often he plays one on TV.
Rick
March 28th, 2012
6:35 pm
So the message is clear if Willard has any chance of beating Obama in November: he should keep his mouth shut and go into hiding. I mean, hell, not having to listen to his non-sense would win my vote… Wait, maybe not. Poor Willard, seems he’s damned if he does, and damned if he don’t. Must be a bitch walking around in his rich wingtips.
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
6:36 pm
William @ 6:34
We might not agree much on politics; however I’m with you 100% on Steely Dan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCtSa0exAH0
Lord Help Us
March 28th, 2012
6:37 pm
‘These are not the marks of an bad man.’
Fully agree. I will also say taht both Romney and Obama are good men, good husbands, good fathers…One is a good Christian, one is a good Mormon and both love their country. Neither is a socialist, marxist, fascist, etc.
If both parties would get the crazy out of their campaigns we would be better served…
Jay
March 28th, 2012
6:37 pm
Just as a technical point, Sinkwich, polling “likely” voters this far out is no more accurate than polling registered voters, because it’s impossible to tell who’s actually likely to vote six months before the election.
PoliticalChucklecom
March 28th, 2012
6:38 pm
Mitt is going to Tampa regardless of what anyone thinks. I hope he does evolve into a better candidate, one that is technologically ready to handle the efficiencies we can capitalize on with recent improvements in communication and tracking.
My View: http://politicalchuckle.com/mitt-romney/r-1000-evades-all-to-seek-republican-nomination/
Jay
March 28th, 2012
6:38 pm
Wingtips, Rick?
He wears wingtips for bedroom slippers.
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
6:41 pm
“Wingtips, Rick?
He wears wingtips for bedroom slippers.”
He probably wears an ascot to bed…….
William
March 28th, 2012
6:41 pm
“If both parties would get the crazy out of their campaigns we would be better served…”
Agreed.
William
March 28th, 2012
6:42 pm
“We might not agree much on politics; however I’m with you 100% on Steely Dan.
So you DO have some taste after all, TBS?
Rick
March 28th, 2012
6:45 pm
William. Agreed, Steely Dan rocks. I saw them live a couple of years ago at the IronStone Vineyard in the Mother’s Lode old town of Murphy’s Camp in the Northern California foothills and they put on quite a show. The night was warm, we were in an outside amphitheater setting with tall pine trees surrounding us, and that rich Steely Dan sound drifted through the audience with the ease of pipe smoke. I recall three beautiful African-American young women in his group who gave magic to the word of harmony. Wow, what a night … it was vivid to me because I was wearing my tye-dye T-shirt from a concert featuring Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young a few years before. Too bad today’s music doesn’t have the same effect as the older groups who will remain classic. I’m just waiting for Fleetwood Mac to tour again so I can see them in Sacramento. “Long Live Rock & Roll.”
Paul
March 28th, 2012
6:45 pm
William
“Fair enough. Does anyone else with the above stated qualifications wish to join this discussion over the coming weeks?”
If memory serves me correctly, I believe what you described is what Jay set up this blog to do!
BTW – many times I’m not so much expressing a conviction as I am asking questions to look for a strong enough argument to sway me one direction or the other.
Jm
March 28th, 2012
6:46 pm
Obamacare going down….
Lord Help Us
March 28th, 2012
6:46 pm
I will drink kirshwasser from a shell with anyone that likes Steely Dan…
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
6:49 pm
William
Just a little………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sogYgHlNnqo
Jm
March 28th, 2012
6:50 pm
Pure unadulterated BS
“He wears wingtips for bedroom slippers.”
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
6:50 pm
“Just as a technical point, Sinkwich, polling “likely” voters this far out is no more accurate than polling registered voters, because it’s impossible to tell who’s actually likely to vote six months before the election.”
You may be right Jay, but I thought the pollsters would ask questions about how respondents voted in pervious elections to determine “likely” status. Knowing whether votes were cast in, say, the last few elections means more than just some random person saying he’s registered. Acorn anyone?
Doesn’t matter. O’bozo is in deep doo-doo. His only option will be to deflect, deflect, deflect. I’m sure you and the rest of the LSM will be more than happy to help him do that.
Paul
March 28th, 2012
6:50 pm
Fred
“Speaking of you Bookman board elitist scum, where has Josef been lately? Anyone know?”
If Georgia’s anything like Texas, he’s up to his eyeballs in state-mandated tests.
Brosephus
“I will also say that both Romney and Obama are good men……One is a good Christian, one is a good Mormon”
Can I have a facepalm?
JamVet
“The one demographic that will most interest me in Obama’s victory will be the female vote.
Is it possible that Romney will lose it by 15 percentage points? 20? 25?
And it really won’t be his fault. He just never renounced his party’s war on women so he’s gonna pay the price…”
Bingo. Perceptive post.
Newt and Santorum. The gifts that keep on giving.
Brosephus™
March 28th, 2012
6:51 pm
They BOTH
I do remember those letter that Casey used to read. Spot on observation on finding the right song.
josef
March 28th, 2012
6:51 pm
If it’s buyers’ remorse plaguing Obama, then it’s prepurchase remorse plaguing Romney.
The looney tunes contingent of the GOP was so far out there, that the only one who didn’t embarass the dickens out of the reasonably sane conservative-GOP was Mitt with the personality of a grilled cheese.
Jm
March 28th, 2012
6:51 pm
Jays opinions are a country mile wide
And as shallow as a silicon wafer
Jm
March 28th, 2012
6:53 pm
Obama admin defending pink slime
Disgusting president
Obama is the pink slime president
josef
March 28th, 2012
6:55 pm
PAUL
That’s been pretty much the case…that and a bad attitude best not brought to the blog for fear of being fatwahed
Brosephus:
Read the book and will be back with you on it,,,poorly titled and Yankee Sharia, but overall not as bad as I was prepared for,,,
Paul
March 28th, 2012
6:55 pm
Jm
“Pure unadulterated BS
“He wears wingtips for bedroom slippers.””
For once I gotta agree with you.
Berluti doesn’t make a wingtip.
Brosephus™
March 28th, 2012
6:57 pm
He’s heerrrrreeeeee……
Sic’em jm
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Paul
The moderator doesn’t appear to like the facepalm anymore. Either that, or explorer doesn’t like it anymore. Past few attempts have disappeared into the great beyond.
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
6:57 pm
“Arguing about whether the court could keep some provisions of the health care law intact, Justice Antonin Scalia says that reading all 2,700 pages of the statute would constitute, basically, torture:
JUSTICE SCALIA: Mr. Kneedler, what happened to the Eighth Amendment? You really want us to go through these 2,700 pages?
(Laughter.)
JUSTICE SCALIA: And do you really expect the Court to do that? Or do you expect us to — to give this function to our law clerks?
Is this not totally unrealistic? That we are going to go through this enormous bill item by item and decide each one?
The 8th amendment is the constitutional prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment. The bill’s length and complexity were a major GOP talking point in 2010.”
Do you lib ilks really expect the SC to go through this monstrousity line by line to determine what stays and what doesn’t?
The whole thing is going down, down, down……
Paul
March 28th, 2012
6:58 pm
josef!!!! Hi!!!!!
RIght on schedule, you are! Everyone here says you’re psychotic but I keep saying you’re just psychic!!
I think you’re safe from the fatwah, given some of the stuff I’ve read here in the last day or two. But then again, you may just have reminded Imam to not get too accommodating -
Jm
March 28th, 2012
6:58 pm
Bro
Woof
Paul
March 28th, 2012
6:59 pm
Firefox, Brosephus.
As JamVet keeps attesting, it’s “FIrefox.”
Paul
March 28th, 2012
7:02 pm
F. Sinkwich
The whole point of that exchange, as Justice Ginsburg and another pointed out, was to demonstrate that removing the mandate does not invalidate the rest of the law, because there are obviously many items in the bill not tied to the mandate.
Jm
March 28th, 2012
7:02 pm
A. This supreme court thing is fascinating
B. it’s possible invalidation of obamacare might actually help Obama
C. Romney still has a very good chance of winning
D. Romney is the right guy at the right time
Hopefully we will elect Romney…
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
7:04 pm
“Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., proved the unnamed butt of a joke at the Supreme Court hearing today, as the courtroom chuckled at Justice Scalia’s suggestion that the court overturn the “Cornhusker Kickback” because it amounted to bribery.”
Some things just come back to haunt…….
Jm
March 28th, 2012
7:04 pm
Paul, the problem is its 3000 pages long
No one on the SC wants to read 3000 pages and decipher the mess, and furthermore that could start to violate some serious SC principles
Woodstock Mike
March 28th, 2012
7:04 pm
Have you seen this Democrat Bobby Rush that wore a hoodie to Congress today? Wow, talk about embarassing for Democrats. This guy can barely speak English.
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
7:05 pm
Paul, see 6:57….
Really?
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
7:07 pm
“Have you seen this Democrat Bobby Rush that wore a hoodie to Congress today?”
Wasn’t that dude a black panther?
Wade Hampton
March 28th, 2012
7:07 pm
American people vote Ron Paul.
.
The American slave/serfs vote for ORomney.
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
7:08 pm
Verrrry few lib ilks on the blog tonight. Tough day for ‘em.
Paul
March 28th, 2012
7:08 pm
Jm
And as was argued the other day by the justices, it isn’t their role to do that.
Your 6:57 was the object of my 7:02.
Paul
March 28th, 2012
7:09 pm
Jm
Make that Sinkwich’s 6:57 -
Rick
March 28th, 2012
7:10 pm
So what in the hell is the Newtster up too? Daaah, he’s been milking this pseudo presidential race for all it’s worth. It keeps him in the limelight and allows him and starched blondie sell books while on the campaign trail … I mean come on, dressing one of your campaign workers up in a character out of Callista’s children book and forcing him to parade around in front of the table while Newtster and Blondie autograph copies of their books … they are shameless. The media and the public at large should scream out “ENOUGH.” Somebody ship these two worthless souls to the moon, and neuter the Newt so you can’t replicate his foolisness!!!!
JamVet
March 28th, 2012
7:11 pm
Wow, talk about embarassing (sic) for Democrats.
Good job. You did manage to spell five of those six words correctly.
This guy can barely speak English.
Oh, the irony…
Peadawg
March 28th, 2012
7:15 pm
i said a flip flop the flippie the flippie
to the flip flip flop, a you dont stop
Go Romney go! Sing it boy!
Wade Hampton
March 28th, 2012
7:15 pm
Will Bookman get permission to comment on this?
.
No…………..I don’t think so.
It doesn’t fit the state-sponsored script.
.
“Forty thousand Iraqis live in El Cajon, California, where this week, Shaima Al Awadi, a devout Muslim mother of five, died after being beaten inside her home with a tire iron and left next to note reading “Go back to your country, you terrorist.””
getalife
March 28th, 2012
7:15 pm
Stink fish:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XajZv4xHKsE
William
March 28th, 2012
7:15 pm
“JUSTICE SCALIA: And do you really expect the Court to do that? Or do you expect us to — to give this function to our law clerks?”
It is a fair question. The SCOTUS should not have to spend weeks upon weeks parsing such a long and convoluted bill in order to winnow out what is salvageable. What would you have left? A patchwork law? It’s like asking the teacher to rewrite a badly written paper by one of his students. Rewrite the thing yourselves, Congress!
Peadawg
March 28th, 2012
7:15 pm
“Have you seen this Democrat Bobby Rush that wore a hoodie to Congress today?” – Yeah, he’s an idiot to say the least.
josef
March 28th, 2012
7:17 pm
PAUL
EVERYBODY says I’m psychotic…where’s Sic Transit K’chak with the de rigueur “who gave you permission to speak for me, sport?”
jm
Yeah, his opinions may be a country mile wide, but he gets paid by the inch and ours are gratis!
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
7:19 pm
getalife checked in…
Nice job.
The fact that lib ils claim you as their own says an awful lot.
Rick
March 28th, 2012
7:20 pm
You know, Romney is a ringer to play a 50s something on “Mad Men.” He fits right in.
Jack
March 28th, 2012
7:20 pm
ByteMe at 5:02: Just wondering how Obama’s “life experience” allowed him to connect with the average voter. And regardless of Romney’s experiences, I’m gonna vote him just like Bookman did.
JMH
March 28th, 2012
7:21 pm
Is that what everyone wants, an average Joe for President? Do u consider Obama an average Joe? Come on with the class warfare, country club BS. Why do people in this country (especially democrats) have to bash people over their wealth and material possessions. Are u saying you dont strive to be financially independent? Are u happy mooching of the actual tax payers? Get a life!
ty webb
March 28th, 2012
7:22 pm
No, democrats just prefer their millionaires to be horsefaced.
William
March 28th, 2012
7:23 pm
“Is that what everyone wants, an average Joe for President?”
Yes. I think we were all greatly disappointed that Joe the Plumber did not run.
ty webb
March 28th, 2012
7:24 pm
or nicely coiffed, philandering trial lawyers.
ty webb
March 28th, 2012
7:25 pm
or philandering sons of bootleggers.
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
7:25 pm
Unfortunately, the bill is a monster and what holds most of it together is the individual mandate. If the mandate is ruled unconstitutional as appears quite possible it would be a colossal task for the Supreme Court to wade through all 2700 pages to determine what can be salvaged and what must go. I think if the mandate is overturned the bill goes back to Congress for rework.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
7:25 pm
Regarding the “Black Panters” in Florida and the Zimmerman “Wanted Poster”.
Florida Code Section 777.04 “Attempts, solicitation, and conspiracy”
“A person who solicits another to commit an offense prohibited by law and in the course of such solicitation commands, encourages, hires, or requests another person to engage in specific conduct which would constitute such offense or an attempt to commit such offense commits the offense of criminal solicitation.”
getalife
March 28th, 2012
7:26 pm
ils?
You are slipping.
Take a break.
Rick
March 28th, 2012
7:26 pm
Poor JMH: He’s too brainwashed to realize he’s toeing the company line. I wouldn’t gripe if the rich were paying their fair share of taxes, but they are screaming out Leona Helmsley’s infamous slogan, “Only the little people pay taxes.” Well JMH, do you make a million a year? Are you a have and have-more? If not, you’re fighting on the wrong side, but your viewpoint has been distorted by Fox News.
Bruno
March 28th, 2012
7:28 pm
Brosephus–I forgot to mention to Fred and Paul that you are also a member of the Blog Band. A veeeeeery exclusive, elitist bunch at only 5 members. Pretty lucky for you that you could play keys and looked like Billy Preston.
Off to the track….PB has never run much before, so I promised to take it easy on her———for now. We’ve got 3 months to train for the Ptree, so should be a piece of cake. This will be number 15 for me.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
7:29 pm
josef:
Did you see this recently ??
Headline: “State Department Won’t Say Jerusalem Is in Israel”
http://freebeacon.com/state-department-wont-say-jerusalem-is-in-israel/print/
Well then, Atlanta is not in the U.S. It’s in the Cherokee Nation.
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
7:30 pm
Rick is the only lib ilk spewing socialism tonight.
Go figure.
josef
March 28th, 2012
7:30 pm
WADE HAMPTON
Deliver me from the spectre of Ron Paul and his Aryan horde!
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
7:31 pm
0311/8541, the panther leader who put out that kidnap or kill bounty should be indicted on felony charges. It should be interesting to see if he will.
JMH
March 28th, 2012
7:32 pm
Rick, I don’t make a million a year but I would be considered rich by democrats. Who makes the decision on how much is too much? You? Obama? What the hell is my fair share? Yours? What about people who get the EIC (that’s earned income credit) who actually get a refund in excess of what they actually pay? Is that fair? That’s the problem; according to democrats anyone who wants to keep more of what they earn (their own money) is evil. Where am I wrong Rick?
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
7:32 pm
Thanks for the spellcheck, getalife.
You’re good for something I guess.
josef
March 28th, 2012
7:32 pm
SCOUT
Yeah, that one is messy…
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
7:34 pm
“the panther leader who put out that kidnap or kill bounty should be indicted on felony charges. It should be interesting to see if he will.”
Nope.
Eric Holder has his back.
If he was white, well maybe…..
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 28th, 2012
7:37 pm
What about people who get the EIC (that’s earned income credit) who actually get a refund in excess of what they actually pay? Is that fair? That’s the problem
Maybe that’s the E-something my tax preparer uses to get all the money they’ve took out back and a few thousand besides. If so, there’s nothing wrong with it. Mind your own business and stop messing things up for other people.
Fred ™
March 28th, 2012
7:38 pm
Brosephus™
March 28th, 2012
6:57 pm
Paul
The moderator doesn’t appear to like the facepalm anymore. Either that, or explorer doesn’t like it anymore. Past few attempts have disappeared into the great beyond.
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What about this one? http://www.itusozluk.com/gorseller/facepalm/158487
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
7:39 pm
RC is so funny.
josef
March 28th, 2012
7:39 pm
TY
What you got against philandring sons of bootleggers? I take personal umbrage!
Midori
March 28th, 2012
7:40 pm
surveillance video of Zimmerman the night he murdered Trayvon:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/george-zimmerman-police-surveillance-16024475
Fred ™
March 28th, 2012
7:41 pm
Jm
March 28th, 2012
7:02 pm
A. This supreme court thing is fascinating
B. it’s possible invalidation of obamacare might actually help Obama
C. Romney still has a very good chance of winningD. Romney is the right guy at the right time
Hopefully we will elect Romney…
There I fixed that for you.
Don't Forget
March 28th, 2012
7:41 pm
Real Scootter
March 28th, 2012
5:32 pm
Or maybe he just needs a cool nickname
Mitt Headroom????
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 28th, 2012
7:42 pm
Here’s your facepalm:
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Now quit your whining.
Fred ™
March 28th, 2012
7:43 pm
Jm
March 28th, 2012
7:02 pm
A. This supreme court thing is fascinating
B. it’s possible invalidation of obamacare might actually help Obama
C. Romney still has a very good chance of winning
D. Romney is the right guy at the right timeHopefully we will elect Romney…
Crap I did it wrong the first time lol.
ty webb
March 28th, 2012
7:43 pm
Josef,
I apologize. I don’t have a problem with philanderers…nor bootleggers…nor millionaires
Midori
March 28th, 2012
7:44 pm
Fred/Scout,
take a look at my link @7:40.
jconservative
March 28th, 2012
7:44 pm
Based just on the legislation signed into law, and nothing else, Bill Clinton is the most conservative president since Herbert Hoover.
Strange how things work out.
Fred ™
March 28th, 2012
7:44 pm
Woodstock Mike
March 28th, 2012
7:04 pm
Have you seen this Democrat Bobby Rush that wore a hoodie to Congress today? Wow, talk about embarassing for Democrats. This guy can barely speak English.
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I see the noon pint of bourbon has worn off a little and Mike is sober enough to type again………
Fred ™
March 28th, 2012
7:47 pm
JamVet
March 28th, 2012
7:11 pm
Wow, talk about embarassing (sic) for Democrats.
Good job. You did manage to spell five of those six words correctly.
This guy can barely speak English.
Oh, the irony…
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LOL Instant classic. Repeated here in it’s entirety in case anyone is stupid enough to miss the irony. I have learned the past couple of years to NEVER underestimate the stupidity of hard core fanatical Republicans………..
liberal myth buster
March 28th, 2012
7:47 pm
Who cares about Mitt. Obamacare is under fire. You know, that behemoth of fascist legislation that Democrats rammed through Congress in the middle of the night with no Republican support. Nancy Pelosi herself, House Speaker at the time, said it must be passed so we can find out what’s in it. Oh but wait! Now that Obamacare is under fire from SCOTUS, look who’s trying to spin it back on the GOP! One has to wonder how the justices are taking into account the fact that the current Congress is not the one that rammed this American economic Titanic through.
“The Obama administration is now referring to Obamacare as a ‘bi-partisan bill’ and calling the unpopular individual mandate “a Republican idea,’ following three days of tough questioning by the Supreme Court.”
You seriously can’t make this kind of stuff up. But yeah, there’s always the whining about Mitt, Santorum, et. al. by the liberal left.
According to Gallup, Obama’s approval rating is 46% and stuck. To put that into perspective, Carter’s was 45% in 1980 when nobody outside California and a few B-movie watchers really knew who Reagan was. Watch these gas prices drain Obama’s hopes of a second term dry no matter who is the GOP front runner in November.
josef
March 28th, 2012
7:48 pm
FRED
Bon jour, Mec,
Comment ça va? Qu’est-ce que ce passait avec les proles ici…?
saywhat?
March 28th, 2012
7:52 pm
“That’s useful to remember when conservatives now try to claim that they would have been much more supportive of a President Hillary Clinton than of a President Obama. No, they would not. In fact, part of Obama’s appeal to many liberals was the hope that he would not inspire the blind, angry antipathy directed at Hillary Clinton and before that at her husband. That hope proved vain.”
There is a corollary to that observation, which is -Whoever wins the Democratic primary is instantly proclaimed as “the most liberal _______ (fill in the blank with Senator, Governor, House member)”
Jm
March 28th, 2012
7:54 pm
Bro 7:42
JMH – I can tell you how much the Dems think is too much. Whatever I make.
I am phased out of every deduction. I’ve lost $10,000 +/- on some investments this year, none of it reduces my income. In what twisted world does the government get to say: when you make money, I take some, when you lose money, I still take some (or don’t let you get to deduct losses)?
Government is totally f’d. Our tax code is F’d. Our laws are F’d. And eventually our country will be F’d if we don’t fix it.
ragnar danneskjold
March 28th, 2012
7:56 pm
Most people do not really like doctors, dentists, attorneys, accountants, or undertakers. Everybody likes clowns, window service people at fast food restaurants, and florists. The US now suffers the effects of allowing a community organizer to run the country for three years. Even if we do not like serious-minded competent people, we select them for the big jobs that need to be done. Obama is toast.
Jm
March 28th, 2012
7:57 pm
josef – we do work for free on the blog. but on balance, we’re getting paid what our knowledge is worth.
the only problem is the liberals are stealing from the cons as usual with their negative value advice on top of the valuable con advice.
stop spreading the blog info wealth I say!
Jm
March 28th, 2012
7:57 pm
Fred ™
March 28th, 2012
7:58 pm
Bruno
March 28th, 2012
7:28 pm
Brosephus–I forgot to mention to Fred and Paul that you are also a member of the Blog Band. A veeeeeery exclusive, elitist bunch at only 5 members. Pretty lucky for you that you could play keys and looked like Billy Preston.
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You DO love trying to boost your own self importance and exclusivity. It all started with the silver spoon you and Romney shared shoved up your …….. nose and continued on to your elitist little Harry Mudd college where they can ALWAYS keep “those people” out. Aren’t the Koch brothers owners of that place now? All the “right people” can go and mingle with other “right people” and not be tainted by the stain of “those’ people.
There isn’t a single damn other reason you choose to bring up your insipid little clique other than to TRY to insinuate to others, most specifically me and Paul, that you are “better.” You have to do so because we both intellectually and morally handed you your ass and you just HAD to do something.
Unfortunately for you, neither one of us care. Well at least I don’t. But you keep on keeping on because little men like you NEED something to make you feel superior to the ‘masses.”
People like me don’t care, about you OR the masses. But you keep on building yourself up Biff. There’s a REASON you have no “Buffy”. No Barbie to your Ken………… You can have the Bookman Blog elitist club. I’ll stick with my family.
josef
March 28th, 2012
7:59 pm
Has anybody else ever noticed that only the GOP waterboys put figures on their finances when posting?
Martin Williams
March 28th, 2012
8:00 pm
Romney is not just a presidential material.
josef
March 28th, 2012
8:01 pm
FRED
Sois sage, Mec, I’m a member of that insipid little clique!
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
March 28th, 2012
8:01 pm
Again, a road dog is going to beat President Food Stamps in this election.
Jm
March 28th, 2012
8:02 pm
“Romney is not just a presidential material.”
You’re right. He’s presidential material plus a whole lot more. Intelligent, capable, good family guy, has the willpower to turn the ship of state around. He’s more than presidential.
Good call Martin.
Fred ™
March 28th, 2012
8:02 pm
Midori
March 28th, 2012
7:40 pm
surveillance video of Zimmerman the night he murdered Trayvon:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/george-zimmerman-police-surveillance-16024475
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Wow Midori. I’m “really” seeing that broken nose smashed in face and busted head he claims…………
Gotta go, the girls want to play. Thanks for posting that. Shoots down a LOT of lies doesn’t it?
saywhat?
March 28th, 2012
8:02 pm
“Obama is toast”
______________________
Who says blogs aren’t educational? Did anybody else here know that one definition of “toast” is an incumbent political office holder assured of re-election?
Jm
March 28th, 2012
8:03 pm
toast goes well with Savannah Bee Company honey.
josef
March 28th, 2012
8:04 pm
jm
Well, there is that!
JamVet
March 28th, 2012
8:04 pm
“Obama is toast.”
Yes, because the independents, young voters, moderates, greens, women, all of the minorities and even the hard core, far right wingers are gonna sweep Romney to victory. Along with his VP, Harry Potter. In Middle earth. On a dragon. That talks. Yiddish.
November 7 is going to be one insanely fun day around here…
saywhat?
March 28th, 2012
8:05 pm
“November 7 is going to be one insanely fun day around here…”
Almost as fun as Nov 7 2008.
Jm
March 28th, 2012
8:07 pm
“Well, there is that!”
josef, yes, and so much more. Their honey is just awesome. My wife loves their Royal Queen Jelly lotion. She swears by it.
I know I sound like a pitch guy on this, but their stuff is just awesome. And I got a beehive 2 years ago.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 28th, 2012
8:07 pm
Well, we lost a great one:
.Music 7:56 p.m. Wednesday, March 28, 2012
Son: Bluegrass legend, banjo pioneer Earl Scruggs dies in Nashville at age 88
Jm
March 28th, 2012
8:08 pm
“November 7 is going to be one insanely fun day around here…”
recorded in the jm logbook for Nov 7. Jamvet….
saywhat?
March 28th, 2012
8:09 pm
“American people just not warming to Mitt”
________________________________________________
Why wouldn’t Americans warm up to such a blatant panderer? Pander Bears are very popular at the zoo, you know.
saywhat?
March 28th, 2012
8:11 pm
New cute nickname for flip floppy Mitt Romney- Mitt the Pander Bear!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
8:12 pm
Midori:
I have seen that.
It shows he was cuffed and detained for questioning and that he was not just allowed to “walk away” from the scene.
It is my understanding that he was treated for his injuries at the scene so any blood, etc. would have been removed probably. In any case, his which do not appear to be massive although a broken nose where the cartilege joins the bone can be very painful. Ever have one?
It is also my understanding that Zimmerman stated to the police that Martin was trying to get his gun.
Is there anything else I missed ?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
8:13 pm
Excuse me: “his injuries do not appear”
josef
March 28th, 2012
8:13 pm
ZamVet
Got one for your Yankee self,,,you know how you’re always citing the MOT vote for Dems? Seems that came about in the election of 1868 when they wouldn’t go for your hero Grant recalling as they did General Order #11…ir was the first election in which the “Jewish vote” was courted. The tradition set down then was carried over to the “Americanization” of the Shtellites…
Paul
March 28th, 2012
8:14 pm
Fred
That poster works for me.
Brosephus
Shown up by Redneck Convert?
How will you ever live it down?!!!?
LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!
Hi Midori!!!
If that video was after the incident, where’s the broken nose and bloody head?
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
8:15 pm
“Romney is not just a presidential material.”
After all, he didn’t pay his dues as a community organizer. We all know how important that is.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
8:15 pm
“One of the questions on the career placement test given to job applicants for job placement was:
“Rearrange the letters P N E S I to spell out an important part of the human body that is more useful when erect!”
Those who spelled spine became doctors and the rest of us were sent to the police academy.”
Paul
March 28th, 2012
8:17 pm
Fred
I took Bruno’s 7:28 more as a self-deprecating way to dial it back from his previous post.
Midori
March 28th, 2012
8:18 pm
Paul,
according to Scout, there’s no “there” there…….
Paul
March 28th, 2012
8:20 pm
josef
“Has anybody else ever noticed that only the GOP waterboys put figures on their finances when posting?”
Noticing tells like that, remind me to never play poker with you!
Scout
Zimmerman said Martin was going for his gun?
How’d Martin know Zimmerman had a gun?
josef
March 28th, 2012
8:20 pm
FRED
And that missionary work in France WASN’T community organizing?
JamVet
March 28th, 2012
8:23 pm
josef, as long as the Jews continue to vote overwhelmingly against Republicans, I’m happy.
Logbook? Must be next to the etchings.
saywhat?
I didn’t say much at all after that trouncing. Other than write of that incredible joy that millions of us felt when the disgraced Bush administration finally came to its horrific end.
But this time will be different. I’m truly gonna enjoy reading the childish laments about how it was the fault of the liberal media. And the food stamps gang. And the illegals. And the Uppity Muslim’s left wing conspiracies. And…
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
8:23 pm
“House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D) said Wednesday that Democrats will accept the Supreme Court’s ruling on her party’s healthcare law — whatever it is. The California liberal –- a champion of the bill who was crucial to its passage -– said Democrats “were careful to honor the Constitution” in drafting the bill, but would respect the high-court’s verdict, however it falls.”
Loser. Pathetic. O’bozo euro- socialist sycophant.
josef
March 28th, 2012
8:24 pm
PAUL
As much as I do love poker, I have to steer clear of the gaming…I’m afraid I suffer dreadfully from la malaise juive…now, Unmentionable? That boy could make a good living on the Rez…
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
8:26 pm
“I didn’t say much at all after that trouncing. Other than write of that incredible joy that millions of us felt when the disgraced Bush administration finally came to its horrific end.”
Wow. I didn’t see Bush on the ballot. You mean he could have won?
josef
March 28th, 2012
8:27 pm
ZamVet
Granny’s grey ghost rests a little easier knowing that!
Paul
March 28th, 2012
8:27 pm
josef
I’m too frugal to risk anything greater than a modest amount for pure entertainment.
St Simons - we're on Island time
March 28th, 2012
8:29 pm
Mittens, get some dreads; den you be cool. mon
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
8:30 pm
Paul:
It’s up to investigators and/or the grand jury to determine:
1) If they think Zimmerman is telling the truth.
2) Was Zimmerman wearing the gun “outside” where it could be seen.
3) Did Martin try to get it out of the holster first?
4) Did Zimmerman get it out first and then they struggled over it.
A jury will ultimately decide the facts.
saywhat?
March 28th, 2012
8:30 pm
Jamvet- don’t forget ACORN!!!!!!!!!!
ty webb
March 28th, 2012
8:31 pm
“Bush” is Amvet’s new “neocon”.
St Simons - we're on Island time
March 28th, 2012
8:33 pm
Mittens seems to have the spirit of the extension cord.
josef
March 28th, 2012
8:36 pm
PAUL
I envy folka who can do that..
******
BTW, folks, gimme more of this global warming..got green tomatoes already just about right for frying…and it ain’t even April yet…
Soothsayer
March 28th, 2012
8:36 pm
No matter which one of these wins, Obama just don’t stand a chance.
josef
March 28th, 2012
8:39 pm
St Simon’s
I was about to say he looks like that Mushroom and Swiss, Pete! Of course he’s got my five dollars and car keys…
He’s also got a t-shirt with Jesus riding a unicorn…
JamVet
March 28th, 2012
8:39 pm
Of course, ACORN! And the Black Panthers. And dead voters. And… LOL
ty, sometimes I refer to you Republicans as fake conservatives, which is the same as neocon.
Alas, Mitt.
Screwed if he does. Screwed if he doesn’t.
His handlers have tried desperately to portray him as another severely conservative neocon. Which is of course, the political kiss of death in this post-Bush devastation.
His best bet, though it still would not win him the White House, would be to try and be the real Mitt – reasonable, centrist, non neocon.
But now he has the Etch-a-Sketch label and it is MUCH too late. Almost nobody believes a word he says. Not even the Republicans themselves. The only thing missing this time around is the Rove slime machine.
And the only reason he is going to be the second John McCain is because he had the good fortune of having the seven dwarfs as his inter-party opponents…
Bruno
March 28th, 2012
8:43 pm
Unfortunately for you, neither one of us care. Well at least I don’t. But you keep on keeping on because little men like you NEED something to make you feel superior to the ‘masses.”
I took Bruno’s 7:28 more as a self-deprecating way to dial it back from his previous post.
Brother JamVet–Would you please take a moment and explain to Fred and Paul the meaning of the phrase “yanking your chain”. They seem to be having trouble with the concept.
Dems_R_Idiots
March 28th, 2012
8:43 pm
4 more years of obozo or 4 more years of a replacement clown.
God have mercy on this country
ty webb
March 28th, 2012
8:44 pm
amvet,
sometimes?
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
8:45 pm
CNN:
“New York – The price of an average gallon of regular gas surpassed the $3.90 mark Wednesday, moving to within a dime of the $4 threshold.”
Just give it a week.
But then again the price will only be halfway to the lib ilk’s goal of european levels.
Maybe by election day.
It wasn’t too long ago the price was $1.89. Gee, when was that?
Soothsayer
March 28th, 2012
8:46 pm
Just another face in the crowd.
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
8:47 pm
It will be a close race but as the campaign heats up between what appears to be a Romney vs. Obama contest, it’s hard to see Obama winning as he’s just carrying too much failed baggage. Looks like another Jimmy Carter final outcome.
Bruno
March 28th, 2012
8:47 pm
I’m afraid I suffer dreadfully from la malaise juive…now, Unmentionable? That boy could make a good living on the Rez…
Not if he’s enduring the bad beats I’ve been hit with lately. Made the final table in a tourney while in Biloxi. I get a guy all in after the flop with trip 7s, all he has is an A-9. Sucker hit runner-runner to make a straight on me. Thank God some lately was rolling up a storm on the craps table. Won all my money back plus a little toward expenses.
William
March 28th, 2012
8:48 pm
““House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D) said Wednesday that Democrats will accept the Supreme Court’s ruling on her party’s healthcare law — whatever it is. The California liberal –- a champion of the bill who was crucial to its passage -– said Democrats “were careful to honor the Constitution” in drafting the bill, but would respect the high-court’s verdict, however it falls.”
Of course the former Speaker’s words regarding the bill have to be some of the funniest ever uttered by a person of that stature: “We have to pass the bill…uh…to find out what’s in it”. I don’t believe she is stupid, but that statement is about as dumb as one can be. It suggests confusion – which is why such an important bill, passed by the skin of its teeth, should be re-visited and re-written.
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
8:48 pm
Fox News takes first place in viewer trust. Not surprising.
josef
March 28th, 2012
8:49 pm
DEMS
“God have mercy on this country”
I say that prayer no matter who’s in office…
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
8:49 pm
Oh, first place on the blog.
CKM
March 28th, 2012
8:49 pm
You’re a very good-looking man. Too bad.
Liberal Hackster
March 28th, 2012
8:50 pm
Bush, neocon, tea party, bible beaters, gun lobby, banksters, corporate welfare……..
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
8:50 pm
“God have mercy on this country”
josef, Amen to that.
JamVet
March 28th, 2012
8:50 pm
B, it is hard to believe that anyone doesn’t know the meaning of that phrase!
Not that I ever do it or anything! I’m more into pushing people’s buttons!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UD0c58nNCQ
josef
March 28th, 2012
8:52 pm
BRUNO
Glad you made a little…so, did you spring for the suite?
BRW
March 28th, 2012
8:52 pm
F. Sinkwich, Loser, blatant racist, who uses a decent FB players handle.
Soothsayer
March 28th, 2012
8:53 pm
In America, we print $1,500,000,000,000.00 ($1.5 trillion) each year. Have you ever wondered what $1,000,000,000,000.00 ($1 trillion) looks like? This will help you visualize it. Wonder why gas (and everything else) costs so much?
William
March 28th, 2012
8:53 pm
“Fox News takes first place in viewer trust. Not surprising.”
According to what poll?
Midori
March 28th, 2012
8:53 pm
Funeral director: No injuries on Trayvon’s hands
Funeral director says he saw no injuries on slain teen Trayvon Martin’s hands and knuckles
Gunshot wound appeared to be in upper chest area
Funeral director calls police investigation ‘most unprofessional’ he has ever seen
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/03/28/funeral-director-saw-no-signs-fight-trayvons-hands
JamVet
March 28th, 2012
8:54 pm
Meat, I believe the term is Bible thumpers. The only one in that list that is a pejorative. Well, maybe Bush. (big sh*teating grin)
Liberal Hackster
March 28th, 2012
8:56 pm
“! I’m more into pushing people’s buttons!”
Stating the obvious is also the specialty of liberal hacksters.
Bruno
March 28th, 2012
8:57 pm
But you keep on building yourself up Biff. There’s a REASON you have no “Buffy”. No Barbie to your Ken………… You can have the Bookman Blog elitist club. I’ll stick with my family.
BTW, Fred, do I detect a bit of Platinum envy there in your post??
JamMan–Please enlighten the poor fellow, will you??
Ahem
March 28th, 2012
8:58 pm
MItt may not be on fire, but Barrack will be doused anyway.
Bruno
March 28th, 2012
8:59 pm
Glad you made a little…so, did you spring for the suite?
Sure did, and I’m damn glad I did. Absolutely beautiful room. PB claims that she cried when she opened the door. His and hers bathrooms, Jacuzzi, etc. First class all the way at the Beau Rivage.
William
March 28th, 2012
9:01 pm
“Funeral director: No injuries on Trayvon’s hands.”
The plot thickens. There sure are a lot of contradictory things being said. Where does the truth really lie?
Oscar
March 28th, 2012
9:02 pm
Mitt’s problem is that he is Mitt. Not a very likable person who keeps saying things that make people like him less. He just keeps rubbing it in. Just doesn’t get it.
William
March 28th, 2012
9:02 pm
“You can have the Bookman Blog elitist club…”
Ew…ew…how do you join? I so much want to be part of that. Is it like Mensa?
Don't Forget
March 28th, 2012
9:03 pm
Republican multiple choice dilemma:
A) 4 more years of Obama then better R candidate to run against ????
B) 4 years of Mitt then another democrat takes the WH
C) 8 freakin years of Mitt, and by that time it will have been 32 years since an R president who wasn’t a Bush or a Romney.
oy, sucks to be an R,
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
9:03 pm
“Looks like another Jimmy Carter final outcome.”
O’bozo makes me nostalgic foe Jimmy.
At least loved our country, as misguided as he was.
Billybob
March 28th, 2012
9:03 pm
american people cooling to obama……..fun
Paul
March 28th, 2012
9:04 pm
josef 8:36
One day my secretary came into my office for something, we were talking and I reached in my drawer, pulled out a Snickers, ate a couple bites, wrapped it up and put it back in the drawer. She froze and said “how do you do that? I said it was all I wanted.
My brother was the real champ, though. We could go into a movie theater as kids, sit thru a dozen cartoons and a double feature and he’d have some of his candy bar left at the end.
Liberal Hackster
March 28th, 2012
9:04 pm
William.
No, more like a cross between Occupy and a Special Ed class.
Oscar
March 28th, 2012
9:05 pm
The plot thickens. There sure are a lot of contradictory things being said. Where does the truth really lie?
___________
The answer first lies with the prosecutor who will decide whether to seek an indictment, then when the grand jury who will decide whether to return the indictment, and if they do, they truth will lie with the jury who will decide what the truth is once and for all.
Legall speaking, that is.
JamVet
March 28th, 2012
9:05 pm
PB? Funny. Smart. Charming. Gracious. Oh, did I mention hot?
Other than that I don’t know what he sees in her.
Now that I think of it, I’m not sure what she sees – no, I dare not go there! (LOL at Bruno…)
Courtesy of Omaha’s Paul Williams…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNglSUBkduA
F. Sinkwich
March 28th, 2012
9:05 pm
“F. Sinkwich, Loser, blatant racist, who uses a decent FB players handle.”
Thanks for your input.
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
Obama may be more likable but does the electorate majority find him the most competent. I think that question will be the determining factor in November.
PlatinumBlack
March 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
Hey, JoJo and Jam and all…
Beau was awesome and I did indeed get weepy from the beauty of it.
Bruno took me out for my first training run. I already have jelly calves. He hasn’t punished me yet– probably waiting for Friday.
Soothsayer
March 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
IS AMERICA A FASCIST NATION?
Let’s take a test, OK?
14 Characteristics of Fascism:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism check
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights check
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause check (And then some!)
4. Supremacy of the Military check
5. Rampant Sexism check
6. Controlled Mass Media check
7. Obsession with National Security check
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined check
9. Corporate Power is Protected check
10. Labor Power is Suppressed check
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts check
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment check
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption check
14. Fraudulent Elections check
Well, the results are in and I’m afraid the results aren’t good!
William
March 28th, 2012
9:07 pm
“Mitt’s problem is that he is Mitt. Not a very likable person who keeps saying things that make people like him less. He just keeps rubbing it in. Just doesn’t get it.”
It would seem you don’t know what unlikable means. Limbaugh and Maher are unlikeable, because they offend people left and right but care not a bit. Indeed, they almost glory in their offensiveness. Mitt may put people off, but it is not intentional.
Rightwing Troll
March 28th, 2012
9:08 pm
“Fox News takes first place in viewer trust. Not surprising.”
Considering fair minded folks don’t watch the Faux news, and Faux’s viewers are like pavlov’s dogs salivating at the lies and bull$hit they spew, your statement is both probably true and not suprising at all.
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
9:08 pm
josef
haven’t seen you on in a few days……. Hope all is well with unmentionable and yourself
William
March 28th, 2012
9:09 pm
“No, more like a cross between Occupy and a Special Ed class.”
That’s funny, Oscar. Then I guess it is not like Mensa at all.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
9:09 pm
Recon:
The scary part is if a Republican should win the presidency will Obama (unlike Carter) try to run again ??
Oscar
March 28th, 2012
9:10 pm
Looking back on history during my memory, which goes back until 1948, I think the voters vote on who is the best looking, who is the tallest, and who is the candidate most likable and who looks the most level headed and trustworthy, who they would most likely trust to stay calm and reach a reasonable decision.
Obama wins out on all those points over Romey.
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
9:10 pm
Bruno
Guess you are reserved for the Ritz………. Hope that goes well for you……….. Stop in at the Juke Joint the night of the race if you are staying two nights……. Well you could the night before, but it might be best to get some rest
JamVet
March 28th, 2012
9:10 pm
LH, true. Now just work on some wit and cleverness. Anybody can be an enraged critic.
Speaking of which…
Damn, Frank actually wrote something non-hateful about a Democrat?! That is one for Jm’s diary!
The Sanford city limits sign – Welcome to Sanford! Where our police force will make you think you’re in LA!
BRW
March 28th, 2012
9:11 pm
Your welcome. Just as enlightening as your ramblings.
William
March 28th, 2012
9:12 pm
“Considering fair minded folks don’t watch the Faux news, and Faux’s viewers are like pavlov’s dogs salivating at the lies and bull$hit they spew, your statement is both probably true and not suprising at all.”
You have to love the cliched drivel emanating from weak minds.
Oscar
March 28th, 2012
9:13 pm
William
March 28th, 2012
9:09 pm
“No, more like a cross between Occupy and a Special Ed class.”
That’s funny, Oscar. Then I guess it is not like Mensa at all.
_______
Thanks, but it was not me that said that. Thank Liberal Hacker.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
9:13 pm
josef:
Oh, what tangled webs we weave ………… “Arab Spring” huh ?
“Members of a disputed panel drafting Egypt’s new constitution elected an Islamist as its head on Wednesday, intensifying a stand-off with secularists over the country’s post-revolution charter.
Saad al-Katatni, a member of the Muslim Brotherhood and the current speaker of the Islamist-dominated parliament was chosen as the head of the constituent assembly, during its first session.
The panel, which is made up of more than 60 percent Islamists, has been at the centre of a dispute with the country’s secular forces who fear their calls for a civil state will be muffled.”
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
9:13 pm
Scout @ 9:09
I don’t think so…………… Looking at voting trends and demographics if things do not change in voting habits….. long term doesn’t on paper look good for Repubs.
With that said, Repubs appear to have some young hot shots that I do not see in the Dem Party……. Rubio and Jindal to name two
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
9:14 pm
0311/8541, I don’t think so, he’ll fade into history as this country’s first black president who was denied a second term. Obama will stay active promoting a radical agenda but he will no longer have the credibility to be much of an influence.
PlatinumBlack
March 28th, 2012
9:14 pm
Jam–Thank you for that sweet post. If Bru’ ever gets P.O.ed at me, I will refer him to your list.
Starving. Going out for some Korean food with big B.
Paul
March 28th, 2012
9:14 pm
Way off topic
“New ‘life in space’ hope after billions of ‘habitable planets’ found in Milky Way”
“Billions of potentially habitable planets may exist within our galaxy, the Milky Way, raising new prospects that life could exist near Earth, a study has found. …” (continued)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/9170683/New-life-in-space-hope-after-billions-of-habitable-planets-found-in-Milky-Way.html
Some of our fundamentalist friends are going to have a tough time with that -
Liberal Hackster
March 28th, 2012
9:15 pm
“Where our police force will make you think you’re in LA!”
King riots will be forthcoming at some point…..
bman
March 28th, 2012
9:15 pm
whats the latest on the Obamacare thing? out? in? don’t know?
Josef
March 28th, 2012
9:17 pm
PB
Glad you had a magic time…now, make home take you to NOLA…
Paul
I can do it with candy…
Both
Busy with work and a bad attitude didn’t help…all’s well, though..
William
March 28th, 2012
9:17 pm
“Thanks, but it was not me that said that. Thank Liberal Hacker.”
So it was. Sorry to confuse the two of you. And as Rosanna Danna might say: “nevermind”.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
9:18 pm
Recon:
Headline: “Billions of potentially habitable planets may exist within our galaxy, the Milky Way, raising new prospects that life could exist near Earth, a study has found.”
Please Lord, don’t let them be Democrats.
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
9:18 pm
“Obama wins out on all those points over Romey.”
Your problem is this is not 1948 it’s 2012. Different political landscape. I don’t think the voters in this critical time will be inclined to vote beauty contest.
Oscar
March 28th, 2012
9:19 pm
William
March 28th, 2012
9:15 pm
whats the latest on the Obamacare thing? out? in? don’t know?
—————
Justice Scalina wants to throw it all out. Justice Ruth G. wants to keep the good parts and throw out the bad. Justice B. probably will pass it.
Justices Kennedy and Roberts are hard to read and could go either way. I give 6-5 odds it will be thrown out.
Would like to be able to hear their discussions in private deliberations.
Soothsayer
March 28th, 2012
9:19 pm
“The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite.”
– Thomas Jefferson
William
March 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
“Would like to be able to hear their discussions in private deliberations.”
LOL, Oscar. It appears you returned the favor: confusing me with another poster. We’re even now.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
Oscar:
“Justice Ruth G. wants to keep the good parts and throw out the bad.”
Then she should personally have to read the whole thing and underline in red what she wants to keep.
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
bman @ 9:15
it appears that certain aspects of the law have been scrutinized and some may say shredded…
With that said, pundits on both sides are cautioning that a justice’s comments and questions are not always a slam dunk indication of how they will vote
Ex: Kennedy’s comments and questions during the 1st half of the session would lead anyone to believe he was against , the 2nd half would lead the same person to say he hasn’t made up his mind
Oscar
March 28th, 2012
9:21 pm
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
9:18 pm
________
Could be, but to quote some Frenchman:
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
bman
March 28th, 2012
9:22 pm
TBS .. .. thanks. I haven’t had too much time to read about it.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
9:22 pm
Soothsayer:
Do you support this quote ?
“If in the opinion of the People, the distribution or modification of the Constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation; for though this, in one instance, may be the instrument of GOOD (emphasis added), it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed.”
William
March 28th, 2012
9:22 pm
Drudge is reporting that Rubio has endorsed Romney. Guess who his running mate is going to be?
Soothsayer
March 28th, 2012
9:22 pm
“The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it comes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism – ownership of government by an individual, by a group.”
– Franklin D. Roosevelt
Oscar
March 28th, 2012
9:23 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
Oscar:
“Justice Ruth G. wants to keep the good parts and throw out the bad.”
Then she should personally have to read the whole thing and underline in red what she wants to keep
_________
J. Sclina made a joke about that He said it would violate the 8th amendment against cruel and unusual punishment to make them have to read the whole thing.
He very much disagreed with Ruth on that point.
Paul
March 28th, 2012
9:23 pm
Scout
“Headline: “Billions of potentially habitable planets may exist within our galaxy, the Milky Way, raising new prospects that life could exist near Earth, a study has found.”
Please Lord, don’t let them be Democrats.”
That was really good!
Pleasant evening, all -
Bernie
March 28th, 2012
9:24 pm
Jay @ 5:49 “At this point in 2008, most people had no idea whatsoever that the economy was about to suffer its biggest crash since the Great Depression.”
Thank-you for acknowleging that absolute fact that all of this occurred under the Bush administration. The same administration that failed on us on 911 and the same administration that was asleep at the wheel again, during a time when we were experiencing a financial attack on the economy inside of our borders and none of the leadership did anything until it was too late. Now the same Republican Party who was in charge during the initial start of this financial collapse wants to blame President Obama for this same ongoing financial crisis which was none of his making or creation.
The current assertions are that his decisions has made it far worse is a false straw man as well. All economic signs demostrate that due to his sole actions prevented further destruction of an already worsening economy.
moonbat betty
March 28th, 2012
9:24 pm
That’s a shame that a man that the American people don’t like MAY beat obama.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
9:24 pm
They BOTH suck :
Sometimes they have already made up there mind and just have to come up with language to support their decision.
Looking during open court as if they might go the other way is a diversion to make them look as though they are tormented by the decision.
It’s all political.
William
March 28th, 2012
9:25 pm
“J. Sclina made a joke about that He said it would violate the 8th amendment against cruel and unusual punishment to make them have to read the whole thing.”
It was a good line. He can be funny at times. Perhaps it’s the Italian in him.
Midori
March 28th, 2012
9:25 pm
wonder why inconvenient facts bring out so much anger in the knuckle draggers?
Recon 0311 2533
March 28th, 2012
9:26 pm
Kind of light on the blog this evening. Y’all have a good one. Out
Josef
March 28th, 2012
9:26 pm
Scout
@ 9:13
We’ll see, I figure they’ll “make haste slowly.”. The secularists are a formidable opposition and, really, may be able to do more in opposition since they can limit their objectives and not have to take responsibility for not solving the myriad of problems not religious in nature…a lot depends on the document which comes out of this exercise
William
March 28th, 2012
9:27 pm
“Wonder why inconvenient facts bring out so much anger in the knuckle draggers?”
I wonder the same thing. There is one answer: pride.
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
9:28 pm
Bman: your welcome
Oscar @ 9:19
I’m with you on Roberts…. I’m not sure if it will be this decision or others down the road, but I’ve always thought Roberts will not be the consistent right leaning guarantee that many on the right believe. Granted he will vote the vast majority of time with the right leaning justices, however I think he will have some surprises over the upcoming years.
Being left leaning, I wont pretend to say I’m a fan of all of his decisions on the Fed and SJC. but I think he is fair and open minded to what he sees and thinks is constitutional……..
Just my opinion…… but I like that guy….. even if he strikes down the law in question
Soothsayer
March 28th, 2012
9:29 pm
Man, there’s some real big numbers there! Not to mention Obama leads in FL, OH, and PA. Looks like Willard’s gonna have some trouble come November!
Soothsayer
March 28th, 2012
9:32 pm
“There is one answer: pride.”
“Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.”
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Ah thank ah’ll get me ah monster truhck!
Josef
March 28th, 2012
9:32 pm
I kinda liked that 8th Amendment one… THASS funny, I don’t care who you are
Bernie
March 28th, 2012
9:32 pm
William @ 9:22 pm, Please let be Rubio, I hope, I hope. When all of the White Southern Christian Conservatives find about Rubio’s relationship and involvement with the Morman religion. They are not going to support this ticket and neither will they support a second OBama reelection. They will just stay HOME and sit on their HANDS. No way in all that is holy will they ever support such a political marriage
of (2) two Mormons in the White House and that is the TRUTH!
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
9:33 pm
Scout
“Then she should personally have to read the whole thing and underline in red what she wants to keep.”
Scalia has already said that is Congress job and he nor his clerks will be doing that
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
9:34 pm
Sooth:
9:22 !
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
9:35 pm
They BOTH suck:
Good !
Soothsayer
March 28th, 2012
9:37 pm
Scout: I don’t really understand your post @ 9:22. That’s why I haven’t commented on it.
Oscar
March 28th, 2012
9:37 pm
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
9:28 pm
_________
Roberts is a hard man to dislike. In one way, upholding the law would be a conservative move, becuause the decision would be of sunh a benfit to the insurance industry and by result, the private sector. It would keep the private insurance industry in control of medical care.
If it is thrown out, more and more companies will drop employee coverage until in a few years so many people will be without insurance coverage that the American people will demand medicare for everyone and govt. furnished health care.
Oscar
March 28th, 2012
9:39 pm
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
9:33 pm
Scout
“Then she should personally have to read the whole thing and underline in red what she wants to keep.”
Scalia has already said that is Congress job and he nor his clerks will be doing that
__________
Well, if the vote goes 5-4 against him, he will be sitting on the sidelines watching Ruth and the other justices doing it. If it comes to that, I think he will join in with his suggestions.
William
March 28th, 2012
9:41 pm
” Please let be Rubio, I hope, I hope. When all of the White Southern Christian Conservatives find about Rubio’s relationship and involvement with the Morman religion. They are not going to support this ticket and neither will they support a second OBama reelection.”
Being baptized at the age of 8 doesn’t for a Mormon make. Man, you guys amaze me.
Soothsayer
March 28th, 2012
9:42 pm
I’m dog tired. I’m out for tonight. Sorry to hear about ol’ Earl Scruggs. A sad day for America.
Here’s one of my favorites!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
9:43 pm
Soothsayer:
O.K. The quote is by George Washington and it basically means this:
There is a process to change the Constitution. It’s called an amendment.
To make the Constitution say something it doesn’t (even for a good purpose) is to
usurp it and by doing that you cheapen it and make it easier for despots to ignore it
in the future.
William
March 28th, 2012
9:45 pm
“O.K. The quote is by George Washington and it basically means this: There is a process to change the Constitution. It’s called an amendment.”
The great Washington said that years before the SCOTUS gave itself the right to judicial review in 1803.
William
March 28th, 2012
9:52 pm
Out. Gn all.
Satan
March 28th, 2012
9:56 pm
I invented taxes
Satan
March 28th, 2012
9:57 pm
I also invented congress
Satan
March 28th, 2012
9:58 pm
And lobbyists
Steve
March 28th, 2012
10:00 pm
Romney in 2012!!! Much better than the sleazy, inexperienced ding dong Obama.
Satan
March 28th, 2012
10:01 pm
Enter your comments here
Bernie
March 28th, 2012
10:06 pm
William @ 9:41 pm – WOW! now that is news to me and that further cements my conviction that this ticket of Rominy- Rubio is DOA (Dead on Arrival). the simple fact that he was baptizied as a MORMAN will not sit well with White Christain Conservatives at ALL! Their view is that the Morman religion is a abominaton and a cult to the True Christian theology.
Their love of the Lord Jesus Christ demands they not support any religion other than that. PERIOD! Its completely off limits and totally NON- NEGOTIABLE. The Republican Primaries have already revealed that fact. check the DATA!
Oscar
March 28th, 2012
10:09 pm
Steve
March 28th, 2012
10:00 pm
__________
Obama is not inexperienced. He has been President for four years. That trumps any other experience an opponent may have.
getalife
March 28th, 2012
10:13 pm
Which part of we are back do you not understand?
Jm
March 28th, 2012
10:21 pm
“we are back” to 8% unemployment, 15% underemployment.
“we are back” to mediocre GDP growth.
“we are back” to high gas prices.
“we are back” to WW2 era deficits.
Yeah get. We’re back. Into a deep deep hole. Thanks to Obama.
Jm - Bloomberg Troll Strikes Again!
March 28th, 2012
10:23 pm
obamby sux
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-27/obama-has-made-a-mess-of-the-world-bank-succession.html
getalife
March 28th, 2012
10:24 pm
Thanks to Obama is correct.
We are back.
Jm - Bloomberg Troll Strikes Again!
March 28th, 2012
10:26 pm
““So here’s the thing, though — this is not a three- year project. This is an eight-year project. So I need you one more time, too.” ” -O
Faith based Obama candidacy. Americans are smarter.
Don't Forget
March 28th, 2012
10:28 pm
Please Lord, don’t let them be Democrats.”
Yeah, let them be liberal republicans!
Jm - Bloomberg Troll Strikes Again!
March 28th, 2012
10:29 pm
All you need to know about the cliff we’re approaching.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-28/four-numbers-add-up-to-an-american-debt-disaster.html
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
March 28th, 2012
10:30 pm
Didn’t you earlier state that Romney would NOT be the nominee? What is that sound of silence?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
March 28th, 2012
10:37 pm
William @ 9:45
I hear you but in my opinion the concept holds true.
If you prostitute the Constitution (even for something good) you give others the right to do the same thing for something bad.
getalife
March 28th, 2012
10:41 pm
Long live ObamaCare.
moonbat betty
March 28th, 2012
10:42 pm
I reckon by August, we’ll be at 7% unemployment and everyone will have a gold nugget in their ass.
All hail obama and getalife.
getalife
March 28th, 2012
10:44 pm
Bow down moonbat.
Don't Forget
March 28th, 2012
10:47 pm
Cliff we’re approaching?
Then why did the R’s turn down the 3 trillion in spending cuts and 1 trillion in revenue increases? Oh yeah, it’s a cliff but no way will they allow taxes to go up. Have fun with that on the campaign trail.
moonbat betty
March 28th, 2012
10:48 pm
getalife,
assume the Chakrāsana
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_asanas
if you dare…
moonbat betty
March 28th, 2012
10:49 pm
getalife worships:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm71Khu5-Lk
Thulsa Doom with his boot on liberal throats
March 28th, 2012
10:51 pm
getalife
March 28th, 2012
10:44 pm
Bow down LSU.
I rarely pay getalife any attention anymore. But I figured I would at least help him out with a typo correction.
Jm - Bloomberg Troll Strikes Again!
March 28th, 2012
10:55 pm
“Long live ObamaCare.”
Translation: Long Live Obama Death Panels
BTW, I hate taxes.
Jm - Bloomberg Troll Strikes Again!
March 28th, 2012
10:56 pm
and the tax code.
Jm - Bloomberg Troll Strikes Again!
March 28th, 2012
10:58 pm
out. more fun in tax purgatory…..
moonbat betty
March 28th, 2012
10:59 pm
ahhhh…getalife is good folks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9FmOc0ofGc&ob=av3e
RaceToTheBottom
March 28th, 2012
11:01 pm
I am at the bottom of page 8 of comments for this column. I understand the purpose is to let people vent, but 8 pages? Does anybody but the really disturbed fruitcake read all 8 pages? I know I don’t. Hold it to one page only. The best is usually first anyway, the rest is all fluff. Too bad you won’t read this Jay since it is on PAGE 8.
Don't Forget
March 28th, 2012
11:03 pm
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
Calvin and Hobbes
Bud Wiser
March 28th, 2012
11:06 pm
getalife
March 28th, 2012
10:41 pm
Long live ObamaCare
It meets its own self-generated ‘death panel’ in June when SCOTUS hands down by now what should be obvious even to the most ignorant of you leftists its decision.
The countdown has begun.
Billybob
March 28th, 2012
11:11 pm
’she is just a typical white women’…..hussein obama throws his own grandma under the bus………..gives new meaning to what he said to medvedev……….what do you libs have to say to the czechs and the pols when hussein throws our allies under the bus? anyone……?
Billybob
March 28th, 2012
11:13 pm
can’t wait to see how you libs react after obama loses the election and goes around the world badmouthing the US and blaming the US for all the ills of the world…..wonder what jay will say then……?
Thulsa Doom with his boot on liberal throats
March 28th, 2012
11:15 pm
Billybob,
You left out Colombia, Honduras, and a few other nation’s whose people Obama threw under the bus.
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
11:16 pm
billybob
Could be true, but if he does win and the bitchn and crying you do on this blog is an indication of what YOU will do if he wins……… you will need to be on suicide watch
moonbat betty
March 28th, 2012
11:17 pm
Billybob, don’t speculate.
Wait until it happens.
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
11:19 pm
Dig some Isley Bros……..
I’m out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4sm8yWTwl4&feature=related
TD
watch your boy Billybob………. if his hyperbole, rhetoric and talking pts get any worse…. he might have to actually use his brain and think for a change…………….. that might be a problem
moonbat betty
March 28th, 2012
11:22 pm
moonbat betty out, gentle souls.
Sleepy time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-IXJLgRnvs
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
11:23 pm
Billybob
One more for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usIyVup8-rs&feature=related
I know this isn’t hank jr or skynyrd (which I like some), but it is much better
Jones
March 28th, 2012
11:28 pm
Jay- I forget. What was the line on the Pats Giants- Pats -7?
Whatever
Don't Forget
March 28th, 2012
11:30 pm
So billybob, you think Americans will feel that building a missile defense for Poland is a good use of taxpayer dollars???? Then you’re gonna turn around and say the D’s spend too much? Really? Good luck with that.
Don't Forget
March 28th, 2012
11:34 pm
If ACA gets overturned, have fun trying to get the tea party out to vote for Romney. Especially while trying to convince moderate independents that you’ll do something about the healthcare problem.
RAMZAD
March 28th, 2012
11:37 pm
Romney is like a plastic bag. You will bring home grocery home in it in the car trunk, but you do not want anyone to see you walking on the street with it. It can be useful, but it is not valuable, and in the wrong context it is an embarrassment.
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
11:42 pm
Dont forget
TD can bring some heat and good arguments for what he thinks, etc
Billybob is mostly hit and run……… when talking pts is all you have……………. It is tough when Rush or Boortz aren’t on the radio and Hanitty and Oliely have already came and gone on tv
he may blast me and say those are not his pundits of choice but let him post 10 times and let me see how many times the pundits have those same talking pts on that day or within the last few days …….. coincidence??????????
The best parrot can only do so much
Don't Forget
March 28th, 2012
11:53 pm
Both,
It will be a tough race and very ugly but the R’s have painted themselves into a box on so many issues it’ll be uphill the whole way for them and Romney won’t excite anyone but wall street.
Oscar
March 28th, 2012
11:53 pm
If the health care bill gets thrown out, nothing will be done to change from the status we had in 2009 for at least ten years, maybe longer. We will be stuck in a status quo that 85 per cent of the American public thinks should be changed. Lot of unrest to come.
Bernie
March 28th, 2012
11:54 pm
Mitt Willard Romney is Very STRANGE! everything about him is foreign and rather cold and heartless.
His mannerisms, his way of speaking, his religion, his lifestyle, His humor is strange, the way he walks, his haircut is right out of the 1950’s, even his children seem strange. The only normal person that is in his company that appears to be normal is his WIFE. But she is not on the Ballot!
Willard reminds of the TV series 3rd ROCK. space Aliens pretending to be HUMANS!
Oscar
March 28th, 2012
11:54 pm
Wall Street will stay with Obama. They don’t like or turst Romney either.
Fred ™
March 28th, 2012
11:55 pm
They BOTH suck
March 28th, 2012
11:42 pm
Dont forget
TD can bring some heat and good arguments for what he thinks, etc
Billybob is mostly hit and run……… when talking pts is all you have……………. It is tough when Rush or Boortz aren’t on the radio and Hanitty and Oliely have already came and gone on tv
he may blast me and say those are not his pundits of choice but let him post 10 times and let me see how many times the pundits have those same talking pts on that day or within the last few days …….. coincidence??????????
The best parrot can only do so much
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Careful now. Blog God Bruno of the vaunted blog brotherhood will scold you for saying that. It’s just COINCIDENCE that what we read here from the mindless is the talking points of the day. WE are the ones who are stupid for not realizing that they ALL just had the same thoughts and talking points ALL AT THE SAME DAMN TIME.
Uh huh………
Oscar
March 28th, 2012
11:57 pm
Bernie
________
Romney’s dad was a little strange also. Maybe it’s genetic. Jay thinks they are strange because Mormons have been prosecuted in the US for the last 100 or so years. Got to be something other than that.
Fred ™
March 28th, 2012
11:59 pm
Bruno
March 28th, 2012
8:57 pm
But you keep on building yourself up Biff. There’s a REASON you have no “Buffy”. No Barbie to your Ken………… You can have the Bookman Blog elitist club. I’ll stick with my family.
BTW, Fred, do I detect a bit of Platinum envy there in your post??
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Nope.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
12:00 am
But you yuck it up with jammie and joseph your other blog brotherhood brothers and pretend you all are better than everyone else since it’s what you need to do.
Bernie
March 29th, 2012
12:01 am
Come to think of it MITT is ONE VERY STRANGE DUDE! You would not want to have a drink with him or have him over for dinner and certainly not go to his home for dinner, you may not return!
Guess WHO is NOT coming over for dinner!
even his name is STRANGE! MITT – WILLARD – ROMNEY. I am sorry, seeing a Space Alien in the Whitehouse is not something I can evision even on a GOOD day!
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
12:02 am
josef
March 28th, 2012
8:01 pm
FRED
Sois sage, Mec, I’m a member of that insipid little clique!
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J’ai connu que pendant un certain temps. Je ne vous fait pas confiance non plus. Vous m’avez montré votre vrai couleurs avant.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
12:03 am
Bernie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REvmhBO99I4
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
12:06 am
Oscar, they won’t be able to blame ACA for the rising healthcare costs if ACA gets overturned either. And just wait till the insurance cancellation letters start going out to those with serious healthcare problems. It’s sure to come up in the debates.
Romney does well in one on one’s but you can’t meet everyone individually. Put him on a stage or behind a podium and he’s Mr. Stiffy. Nothing he can do about that. It’ll be a very negative campaign for Romney, the primaries have shown this but people are already getting tired of the negativity.
lawnenzycle
March 29th, 2012
12:12 am
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Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
12:12 am
RIP Earl Scruggs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJOIqmlI65Y
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
12:19 am
Fred – never cared for country and western but that bluegrass can be some smokin stuff! Earl was one of the best. Good selection.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
12:21 am
Josef: ממש אתה שבר שלי אמון שבר לליבי. אוי גם
Bernie
March 29th, 2012
12:21 am
Earl Scruggs looks very strange too! Just like MITT! this guy looks like he could be a perfect choice for Grand WIZARD of the KKK!
Another Very SCAREY looking DUDE…..
Earl looks like one of the guys from DELIVERANCE! The kid on the bridge with the Banjo all grown up!
thanks for the NIGHTMARE!
Ted
March 29th, 2012
12:21 am
Robert Lee
March 28th, 2012
4:47 pm
“Romney will never bridge that gap to the common person. The funny thing is that so many people will vote for him no matter what, as long as its not Obama, regardless of the benefit or detriment to the country. So sad.”
Substitute the name Obama for Romney, and vice versa, and you have my point.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
12:22 am
When I look at Romney I wonder if the R’s got tired of puppets so they went ahead and built a robot.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
12:24 am
Yeah DF, Scruggs was something else. There are those who do a genre that maybe we don’t appreciate as much as maybe we “should” but they stand out anyway. I’m not a basketball fan but Jordan and Kobe stand out. Tiger will ALWAYS define Golf along with Jack and Arnie. No one will EVER talk about NASCAR without mentioning Dale Earnhardt. Some folks just transcend their medium……..
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
12:26 am
Bernie: You want your deliverance nightmare? No problem………. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myhnAZFR1po
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
12:29 am
Fred – yup, I’d add to that list Jimi Hendrix, Babe Ruth, Vince Lombardi ……..
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
12:33 am
Dude, that ain’t the nightmare part, thank gawd
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
12:33 am
DF: Squeal like a pig lol?
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
12:34 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gLN3QoN-q8
Bernie
March 29th, 2012
12:35 am
Oscar @11:57 pm – If you want my honest opinion, JAY is another very STRANGE DUDE too! I cannot truly, rely, believe or trust anything he says or writes. For Petes sake, he is from PENNSYLVANIA!
if you ever go there and spend a long period of time…you will surely laugh and think of my posted comments here and will agree. Jay seems to have QUAKER issues. Quackers are another strange relgious sect that started the State of Pennsylvania. I have travelled and visited cities and countries from all over the world and trust me Pennsylvania is one strange place. LOOK at Rick SANATORUIM, need I say any more?
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
12:40 am
Yeah that’s it. Sure was glad to see that arrow fly.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
12:44 am
Yeah, I could understand if Santorum was a rep but he actually won a statewide election. Wow. He’s a walking talking culture war from the 50’s.
Don't Forget
March 29th, 2012
12:45 am
Well I better hit the hay, nite all.
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
12:46 am
L8r DF
Oscar
March 29th, 2012
12:50 am
Bernie
___________
Pennsylvania Dutch country is strange. I had two ancestors that came there from Germany and the ‘Netherlands in the 1730’s. One of their sons moved to NC and then down to Georgia by the early 1800’s in time to fight for the south in the civil war. But that aside, it’s strange and that goes for Pittsburg and that area. Different kind of people.
ld
March 29th, 2012
1:04 am
The Romney problem is that people never get a second chance to make a first impression.
The first most of the GOP new of him politically, he was a liberal Boston MS Democrat;
The first most Dems (aside from a few Olympics fans) heard of him, he was/is/was/is/was/is a conservative running for the GOP nomination for president that half of his own political party do not trust. And he’s rich and most Dems are not. So…
What’s to like?
Bernie
March 29th, 2012
1:05 am
Oscar @11:57 pm – African Americans were persecuted far worse than any MORMAN. we were SLAVES, brought here in CHAINS, our women and children RAPED, forced to work under the threat of daily and hourly physical violence, denied our religon and language, All members of the family were subject to forcefullyly beaten to a pulp on the slightest whim. forced to worked from can’t see in the morning till can’t see in the evening, without any compensation and little food scraps. Family Members sold like cattle and property. we cleaned and bath the Masters and their children so they can grow to do the same thing over again to the next generation.
African AMERICANS wereTreated INHUMANELY in America for over 200 plus years and still to this day our children are being hunted down and shot like an animal in cold blood. the child lying dead on the ground with a can of ice tea in one pocket and candy in the other. Then the Shooter is treated like he was the victim of a vicious crime and then his vitimization is cheered on by the MOST WATCHED News Channel of 300 million people in AMERICA!
Then everyone goes to church on SUNDAY and PRETEND to worship GOD and PRETEND to call themselves CHRISTIANS. Now, Ask Jay to tell you again how the MORMANS were persecuted? and how that made them strange? that is one of the many reasons why I cannot trust anything Jay says or writes. He is unable to comprehend my very existence! he does not know anything about African American people,culture,history and way of LIFE. Yet he has an editorial column in a city in the SOUTH of the most popular newspapers with more than a 70% African American population. Now, HOW STRANGE IS THAT?
Oscar
March 29th, 2012
1:56 am
Bernie
___________
The only thing I can think of to say is that it is a strange world we live in. I am constantly trying to learn and understand but it seems hopeless sometimes. Only thing to do is cling to faith that things will get better. And I think they will.
Bernie
March 29th, 2012
2:15 am
Mitt “WILLARD” Romney – “a pea-brained, pith-headed simpleton with too much testosterone and too little common sense, with zero tact, no diplomacy and a paramount grasp on the intricacies of world politics. A prize, good-for-nothing ignoramus” – A quote recently from PRAVDA
It appears the majority of the American People share the same sentiment……..
Bernie
March 29th, 2012
2:52 am
Willard is Out-Of-Touch, Out-Of-Date, and Unelectable
Another very Recent Mitt Romney quote -
One of [the] most humorous I think relates to my father. You may remember my father, George Romney, was president of an automobile company called American Motors. … They had a factory in Michigan, and they had a factory in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and another one in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. And as the president of the company he decided to close the factory in Michigan and move all the production to Wisconsin. Now later he decided to run for governor of Michigan and so you can imagine that having closed the factory and moved all the production to Wisconsin was a very sensitive issue to him, for his campaign. ” – Very Strange HUMOR indeed The STRANGE ONE HAS.
This is the same man that says he will end Planned Parenthood, Americans will be on their own in Healthcare and Housing foreclosures, repeal ROE vs WADE, support denial of insurance coverage for Women’s birth control, Willing and ready to keep troops in IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, send troops to SYRIA and willing and will plan to go to war with IRAN when elected.
Maybe this STRANGE one is the “666″ we all have been waiting for………America we are at a cross road
where sound and intelligent LEADERSHIP is a necessary requirement to navigate these stormy waters.
which one will you choose? ” The STRANGE ONE” or The PRESIDENT that captured and killed the LEADER after (10) years on the run, that slaughterd 3,000 of your countrymen MEN, WOMEN and CHILDREN on that clear and sunny Monday morning, September 11, 2001.
You Promised to remember them and that day…Now its your time to honor the Commander -in- Chief
that delivered that promise of capture.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
6:06 am
Check this out – the corporal’s hero looking suspicious as hell…
http://tinyurl.com/6uowzbh
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
6:33 am
Jay hates Mitt
Pravada loves Obozo
Pravada = Jay
Enough said.
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
6:35 am
“The PRESIDENT that captured and killed the LEADER after (10) years…”
…and to think that the media had the internal fortitude to report that it was Seal Team 6 that actually did this.
Thanks for the clarification.
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 29th, 2012
6:49 am
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
6:35 am
Bless your heart.
President Obama was the ONLY one who said “make it so”.
If Seal Team 6 had missed, you’d be yelling a stink to high Heaven, blaming the President like the Republicans did to President Carter for his aborted rescue of the Iran hostages. Open your eyes, son…he may not be great, but President Obama is the best we have to choose from. He will win in November.
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
6:59 am
Carter was a perhaps the worst president all-time regardless of the Iranian epsidoe:
21% Inflation
Gave away the Panama Canal
Created the wonderful Dept of Energy
Created the wonderful Dept of Education
etc.
etc.
Even the libs turned on the idiot.
Progressive Humanist
March 29th, 2012
7:10 am
Yesterday on the radio Romney told what he called a “funny” Wisconsin story about how his father closed an auto factory in Michigan, laid off the workers, and then moved the plant to Wisconsin. The “funny” part is that the people of Michigan were upset about it and his father didn’t want to remind them of it because he was running for office in Michigan. This is why his unfavorability numbers continue to grow and why he has no shot in November; he’s completely out of touch and his own track record is one of putting employees out of work and shipping jobs overseas.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
7:17 am
I’ll translate:
etc.
etc.
is our resident sessionist’s way of saying “I actually have nothing to offer but my irrational hate for a decent man and an underrated President.”
Oh, and that America-hatin’ liberal John Wayne had a few choice words for people like you who cried about “giving away the Panama canal.” Shall I quote? Why not…
In a letter to Mr. Reagan dated Nov. 11, 1977, a copy of which was sent to Mr. Carter, the actor accused Mr. Reagan of spreading untruths about the Panama Canal Treaty in letters to his supporters.
”Now I have taken your letter, and I’ll show you point by goddamn point in the treaty where you are misinforming people,” Mr. Wayne told Mr. Reagan. ”If you continue these erroneous remarks, someone will publicize your letter to prove that you are not as thorough in your reviewing of this treaty as you say or are damned obtuse when it comes to reading the English language.”
He signed the letter ”Duke” and enclosed with it a five-page rebuttal – written on the stationery of the Republican National Committee – of Mr. Reagan’s stand on the canal issue.
Mr. Wayne wrote Mr. Carter in support of his stand on the treaty and the President wrote back in gratitude, saying, ”Your letter is great – tough and factual.”
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 29th, 2012
7:22 am
Milton Man
The Devil wears Pravada
Jay = Meryl Streep
More than enough said.
nelson howard
March 29th, 2012
7:24 am
Mitt is a great fella and will make the finest president since George Washington and he is even more honest than George.
massachusetts refugee thug
March 29th, 2012
7:26 am
sort of off topic, but…if (when) mittens wins the nomination, won’t santorum and the newtster have to shake up their own etch-a-sketch to support him?
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
7:27 am
conservatives now try to claim that they would have been much more supportive of a President Hillary Clinton than of a President Obama
Yeah, that’s always makes me laugh. Had Hillary won, we’d surely be hearing now about how foolish we voters were not to have chosen that tall, dark, handsome gentleman from Chicago.
Oh, and I’ll say it again–casual misogyny is FAR more socially acceptable than casual racism in America in the early 21st century. Given this truth, one can only imagine the sorts of daily screeching about a President Hillary from the right wing noise machine, and their corporate media enablers. I’m certain it’d be even worse than the irrational crap tossed Obama’s way, hard as that is to imagine.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
7:28 am
if (when) mittens wins the nomination, won’t santorum and the newtster have to shake up their own etch-a-sketch to support him?
Well yeah. And we’ll have great merriment in tossing those cheap shots they took, right back at Newt and Frothy. “Hey, that etch-a-sketch of yours comes in real handy, don’t it?”
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
7:30 am
Mitt is a great fella and will make the finest president since George Washington and he is even more honest than George.
Mitt Romney is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.
Mick
March 29th, 2012
7:35 am
jamvet – nice hoodie pic!
I like the mittsiah, just not as president. Bush said he wanted bin laden dead or alive; obama made it happen using his aces – seal team 6…thank you mr. president for keeping us safe…
Bud Wiser
March 29th, 2012
7:44 am
Apparently Mitt is not all “America is not warming…” to.
Latest Rasmussen Poll show that 62% of ALL Americans think, from what they have seen (although they didn’t have to pass it before they saw it) think that Obamacare IS unconstitutional, as opposed to 30% who do not.
Oh, I’ll ‘translate’…….. almost two out of every three Americansbelieve it is unconstitutional. Those percentages alone, if they demostrate absolutely nothing else, show exactly how out of touch the Democrat congress of 2008 was, and how much more so today, defending it against the odds.
And it is not a game.
It is not a ‘noble gesture’. In most circles, to be noble is to be, well, legal and constitutional, which this debacle is most certainly not.
And how about the performance of the Solicitor General before SCOTUS yesterday? Between the ‘er’s’ and ‘uhs’, it sounds like someone else is also heavily in need of a teleprompter. And the equally shameful performance by the apparently senile and addle-brained dedicated liberal Justice Ginsburg? She is the poster hag for changing the life-long appointment to the SCOTUS, literally trying to tell the SG that “I think what you should have said is…….”,or “I think you meant to say…”.
Oh well, its a no-doubter that she’ll never make it through the term of our next President, Mitt Romney, and another true conservative and constitutionalist judge will be appointed and confirmed by a newly conservative Senate and House.
Kagan?
Even the most hard core left knows she is a political appointee for her duties under Obama, serving as a previous Solicitor General herself, curiously enough during the crafting and passing of Obamacare, in which she played a major role.
The fact that this so-called ‘judge’ has not recused herself for that very reason shows two things: 1. she is no more than a left wing political hack that no more should have been on the SC any more than, say, James Carville; and 2. This disgrace of a judge and a woman has no real understanding of judicial process, and has no busines being on the SC, putting political ideology well ahead of constitutional legality, and her own hack opinion above the law.
Little wonder that the Obama administration and its ever expanding bureaucracy are the laughing stock of the world, and are so easily manipulated by the Chinese. So small minded. So very very small.
Mick
March 29th, 2012
7:49 am
**laughing stock of the world, and are so easily manipulated by the Chinese**
I believe the previous administration holds that title, remember america circa september, 2008?
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
7:50 am
I like the mittsiah, just not as president.
I suspect I’d find him perfectly likeable as well, in a way I never would find Newt or Frothy.
I didn’t read all the comments from last night so maybe someone’s covered this, but the whole notion of likability is one that I used to find repugnant–mostly, I suspect, because I was told time and again how “likable” Americans found W. Bush, and he always struck me as kind of creepy, about the last guy I’d want to have a beer with (even though neither of us actually drinks beer these days, but that’s another post.)
But beyond that, it always bristles that anyone, let alone a significant percentage of real-life voters, would base their vote on who they felt a closer emotional bond. It’s so stupid on so many levels, the most obvious being that a) you don’t actually KNOW the guy/gal, how can you have a bond? and b) personal feelings should have nothing to do with who you regard to be best suited for the job–have you never actually hired anyone? do you really give the work to someone you just like, rather than someone who is clearly better qualified?
But, people are complicated, and probably a third or so of the people who vote in a general election do so because they feel they ought to, not because they want to, and oh yeah, billions of dollars are spent buffing up the public images of these political superstars, so what should I expect? getting angry about this fact of life makes about as much sense as shoveling sewage against the tide with a pitchfork.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 29th, 2012
7:51 am
Bud has it ON for Miss Elena.
Too funny.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
7:51 am
Rasmussen Poll show that 62% of ALL Americans think
They get bitter, and they cling to guns, and religion, and Rassmussen issue polling.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
7:59 am
I’m really curious who Mittens is going to choose as his vp candidate.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
7:59 am
Granny, which of the posters to this particular discussion page was our Bud?
Tom(Independent-Viet Vet)
March 29th, 2012
7:59 am
Looks like Jay is not warming to Mitt, so sad!!
Mick
March 29th, 2012
8:01 am
stands
Absolutely agree, the previous guy just reminded me of that kid down the street that was given everything and just thought thats the way life is. Hollow man of little substance, a complete disaster that most people knew would be the reality by the end of his term…
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
8:02 am
Stands: The Duke’s first wife was from Panama & his was good buddies with the President of the country.
Even the peanut farmers best buddy thought this was a give-away
I hope we never hear the word Panama again,” said Jody Powell, Jimmy Carter’s trusted aide. Supposedly this sentiment was shared by the “Deacon” the president himself. While sitting in his little study next to the Oval Office, listening to a Wagnerian opera, pondering communiqués from Tehran and Panama City Carter must have spent a lot of time wondering why one man he frequently called his “great friend,” the shah of lran, had lied to him, and why his “friend Omar Torrijos” was trying to blackmail him politically
Carter’s desire to forget Panama is understandable. As a presidential candidate, he said he would never lie to us. In regard to Panama, the question is whether he ever told us the truth.
To this day much of the real story about the two canal treaties (the first is meant to allow gradual Panamanian “control of the zone” through 1999; the second will completely relinquish it all to Panama in the year 2000) has been obfuscated by sophisticated propaganda.
In March 1978 the canal supporters gathered at the White House, opened bottles of champagne, cheered and patted each other on the back, and Jimmy let loose a four-square Baptist smile that signaled the salvation of his presidency The final count was in: the Senate, by one vote, endorsed the canal deal. They raised their glasses and toasted Panama: their first “foreign policy victory.”
Of course, no one is yet quite sure what, in fact, the Senate vote really meant: whether an international agreement, of doubtful legality distorted by propaganda, political sloganeering, special-interest lobbying, presidential arm twisting, corruption, deception, and cover-up signaled the salvation of the Carter presidency or a continuation of dirty politics and executive deception.
But the champagne toasts were just the wishful thoughts of born-again politicians who hope to fool all the people some of the time and pray to succeed all the time. Panama has now returned to haunt the man who staked his political career on the issue.
On June 16, 1978, Carter visited Panama and exchanged diplomatic documents giving that nation control of the canal. Carter did this despite the Senate’s having passed the Brooke Amendment, which said that any exchange of documents should not be effective earlier than March 31, 1979, and treaties should not enter into force prior to October 1,1979. Under international law the president’s actions create a de jure situation that makes the symbolic exchange binding. Many legal experts feel that by symbolically transferring U.S. property to Panama, Carter violated the Constitution of the United States. Under Article IV Section 3, Clause 2, Congress has exclusive power to dispose of federal property and territory.
Over the past year the House of Representatives has blocked all legislation and funds needed to implement the treaties. Members of the president’s own political party are turning against him. In January of this year Carter had told John Murphy a Democrat from New York and chairman of the House Merchant Marine Committee, to take care of the problem. At the time Murphy’s committee was about to debate proposals for funding the canal deal approved by the Senate because the House of Representatives has final approval on appropriations. The mood in the House was strongly anti-Carter on the issue, and Murphy was worried. Mail to members of Congress was still running 70 percent against the Panama treaties. Debate was still raging over the president’s disposing of federal property without congressional approval. So Murphy went to the White House for lunch with Carter carrying proposals and drafts of legislation reflecting opposition views as well as compromise agreements. After a short prayer and some political gossiping, Murphy began explaining the mood of the Congress on the Panama issue. He started to hand some of the revised legislation to the president. Carter waved it away “I don’t care about these proposals,” he told Murphy “Just get the legislation passed.”
But shortly after the lunch, Rep. John Dingell, expressing the mood of his fellow Democrats, told Deputy Secretary of State Warren Christopher: “We in the House are tired of you people in the State Department. If you expect me to vote for this travesty you’re sorely in error.” Two months later, in April of this year the Congress dealt the president another setback by solidly rejecting $14 million in aid to Panama.
To be sure, there have been, and will be, winners and losers in the canal debate, as assuredly as Teddy Roosevelt and his big-stick diplomacy wrested the Panamanian isthmus from Colombian control in 1903. But they will not be the winners and losers that the orators and pundits suggested.
Despite the fact that the stage managers of the morality play pitted the proud American citizen against the oppressed Yanqui-go-home Latino, neither the American taxpayer nor the Panamanian citizen is much of a winner. And the real story of the Panama Canal agreement of 1978 suggests that the treaties were not a negotiated revolution in United States policy toward Latin America so much as they were the refinement of that policy – a policy created by and for the traditionally narrow interests that have always benefited by the exploitation and manipulation, whether at home or abroad, of the average citizen, the “outsiders,” as Jimmy Carter used to call them.
What perhaps is most curious about the story is that, for all its rhetoric, the Carter administration from the beginning allied itself with the “insiders”- the bankers and entrepreneurs and Wall Street power brokers. And the story of the canal treaties becomes an enlightening glimpse at the machinations of insider politics orchestrated by the man who claimed to “owe special interests nothing,” to “owe the people everything,” and who promised “to keep it that way.” Panama – the word that the Carter administration would just as soon forget – reveals the hollowness of Carter’s declaration about who his creditors are and the emptiness of his promise not to kowtow to special interests.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 29th, 2012
8:02 am
stands
wild guess….all of ‘em?
Donovan
March 29th, 2012
8:02 am
Gee,let’s see…a poll taken by the left leaning organizations of ABC/Washington Post. Gosh, what a surprise!
Yeah, we are really biting on this one, Jay.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
8:04 am
I’m really curious who Mittens is going to choose as his vp candidate.
NPR’s Morning Edition sure had me thinking it’d be Susana Martinez, but who knows.
Some creepy radical clerics will have veto over whoever he chooses, that’s all I know for sure.
Mick
March 29th, 2012
8:05 am
This 2012, we are way removed from carter, reagan, bush1 and clinton. Iran was lost not by carter, but by the blowback from the cia coup in the 50’s. Have we learned from that?
Becky
March 29th, 2012
8:05 am
Milton Man-From whom did you swipe the dissertation on the Panama Canal? We know YOU didn’t write that.
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
8:06 am
Carter = decent man as defined by the PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah, Chavez & Stands
Underrated President = as defined by the residents of Plains (all 800 of them) + Stands
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
8:07 am
a poll taken by the left leaning organizations of ABC/Washington Post
Donavon, feel free to go look up their polling methodology and pick it apart. I’ll wait.
By the way, Real Clear Politics, in their compendium of nationwide head-to-head matchups, has Mitt doing poorly. So I guess that makes them “left leaning” too, yes?
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
8:09 am
Becky, here’s where he swiped it.
(I’m sure he reads it for the ARTICLES…)
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
8:09 am
It was interesting watching Donald Trump last night on FOX talking about Obamacare. By his own admission, IF Obamacare is repealed, and the uncertainty surrounding it goes away, the economy could start a rapid recovery which would work strongly in favor of Obama getting re-elected for another 4 years. That’s gotta be the ultimate Catch 22 for the GOP faithful.
Mick
March 29th, 2012
8:09 am
Honestly, didn’t care much for carter as president, I voted for reagan. The 444 days of the hostage crisis took its toll. I voted for reagan again in 84 but the iran-contra boondoogle took some of the shine off of uncle ron…
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
8:10 am
Hey Milton–how’s that SEE-sesshun biness going with all your fellow bigot/ingrates?
Still think you’re going to convince a supermajority of GA legislators to let you get away with it?
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
8:10 am
Becky – a modern invention called Google. Try it some time.
Let me try to understand your logic:
If poster A who is a like minded liberal, uses an unoriginal piece to make an argument = brilliant; great prose
Poster B – who makes a counter-point in said like manner = swiping???
Love it.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
8:12 am
Milton Man-most learned people know to quote their sources otherwise it appears unseemly or in my world stolen.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
8:13 am
Stands-sorry, I couldn’t open the “source”
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
8:13 am
I voted for reagan.
I *always* saw him as a feeble-minded, irresponsible buffoon. During the 80s, the more I learned about him, the less I liked.
(It took his son to convince me that maybe he wasn’t a horrible person once you got to know him.)
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
8:14 am
“Hey Milton–how’s that SEE-sesshun biness going with all your fellow bigot/ingrates?
Still think you’re going to convince a supermajority of GA legislators to let you get away with it?”
Stands this was cute this first ten times you posted your juvenile name calling tactics; not so cute now that this has become a weekly habit of yours.
Your definition – some of the most financial successful, low crime, good school areas in the state is full of ingrates???
What does that say about your area pal???
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 29th, 2012
8:16 am
MiltonMan
Plagerizer!
Scofflaw!
From Penthouse no less!
Nudie News?
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
8:16 am
Stnads:
Carter = decent man & underrated
Reagan = buffoon
Nice!
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
8:18 am
Granny, I figure it is one place where you will not appear & hey one of the few printed places remaining where both left-wing & right-wing nuts are kept at a minumun.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
8:20 am
MiltonMan-you have been busted!!! LOL
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
8:21 am
Becky, my page opened some guy’s cheesy web-reprint of an anti-Carter screed from 1979 published in Penthouse Magazine.
It was a cheap shot, but, well, this is MiltonMan we’re directing it toward, so it’s permissible.
Gale
March 29th, 2012
8:21 am
It will be an interesting summer. Once the Rep candidate is cast in brass and there are only the two to compare, we will likely see another facet of Romney. The question of who would I feel comfortable with –have a beer with– is crazy. Not one person at that level is someone I would feel comfortable with. I doubt we have much at all in common.
Mick
March 29th, 2012
8:24 am
stands
I was one of the reagan democrats, I voted for carter in 76 but like most americans, the hostage crisis just was an embarassment. I voted for bush1 also, dukakis just didn’t work for me either. I couldn’t stand bush jr. and never thought people would choose him over gore. Biggest mistake ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 29th, 2012
8:24 am
What are copyright laws?
Copyright laws exist to protect our intellectual property. They make it illegal to reproduce someone else’s expression of ideas or information without permission. This can include music, images, written words, video, and a variety of other media.
At one time, a work was only protected by copyright if it included a copyright trademark (the © symbol). According to laws established in 1989, however, works are now copyright protected with or without the inclusion of this symbol.
Anyone who reproduces copyrighted material improperly can be prosecuted in a court of law. It does not matter if the form or content of the original has been altered — as long as any material can be shown to be substantially similar to the original, it may be considered a violation of the Copyright Act.
See MiltonMan – This is how it’s done.
Remember horizontal stripes are not flattering…
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
8:25 am
not so cute now that this has become a weekly habit of yours.
I think I’ve called you and yours a “ingrates” perhaps three times now, but, whatever. It’s factual.
Milton was bailed out of financial disaster years ago, and their way of saying “thanks” is to now cut themselves loose. Allowing them to do this would set a horrible precedent, and you can bet your ass that EVERY dumbass legislator who is thinking about allowing you to break away is going to hear about it.
Let’s get real. If we were to permit every chunk of some county that happened to be doing better than the other, say, 2/3s of that same county to declare independence, it’d be chaos.
There’s nothing special about your situation, save for the level of grotesque historical ingratitude involved this time around.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 29th, 2012
8:26 am
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
8:18 am
Granny, I figure it is one place where you will not appear & hey one of the few printed places remaining where both left-wing & right-wing nuts are kept at a minumun.
Translation: I read Penthouse for the articles
tee hee hee
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
8:27 am
SFD – “Becky, my page opened some guy’s cheesy web-reprint of an anti-Carter screed from 1979 published in Penthouse Magazine.”
So MiltonMan has to pull crap from 1979 to make a point in 2012? Hey Milton, how about some current dialogue. Trumps ascertion that repealing Obamacare may actually help Obama get re-elected for instance?
Becky
March 29th, 2012
8:28 am
Butch Cassidy-I must give you props for having the stomach to watch Fox News. Thanks for the report!
GT
March 29th, 2012
8:29 am
The Republicans keep draining water out of a swallow pool. They tried to enlarge that pool by including the Catholic, and supporting no public funds for birth control. 90 something percent of the women eligible to be pregnant in the U.S. Catholic population use birth control. I’m sure in their treatment of Mormons ,with Romney, they have manage to undermine the support of that church too. They ran a black guy who set back race relations 10 years with his stereotype, sexual appetite, and that was the best that party could find to represent their open mindedness. I almost think they may have done Cain on purpose to scare the fence sitters on Obama, but they managed to damage the party even more. Now Obama has a chance to carry Georgia, because the minority populations are feeling threaten. I see a landslide peeking at just the right time for O. What I don’t see is how the Republican Party rebuilds, and I see huge damage to Christian organizations that have been part of this. As the Democrats become more in power you may see traditional churches coming back into favor. You can’t taint the truth for political advantage and then lose. Some of those contemporary churches of multithousands may be lonely places in a year or so.
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
8:31 am
Butch, yet you have no issue with a letter from the 70s defending Carter?
Your lunacy is exemplary chief!
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
8:32 am
Becky – “I must give you props for having the stomach to watch Fox News. Thanks for the report!”
LOL, thanks Becky. I’m just following the teachings of Sun Tzu ; “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.”
Georgia on my mind...
March 29th, 2012
8:33 am
GT
March 29th, 2012
8:29 am
Best blog of the day!!
tireofit
March 29th, 2012
8:33 am
If Mitten’s get elected we can only hope the Mayan’s where right.
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
8:34 am
MiltonMan – Your lunacy is exemplary chief!”
Says the man who quotes Penthouse 1979.
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
8:34 am
“Now Obama has a chance to carry Georgia, because the minority populations are feeling threaten.”
Yes, and Newtie has a chance winning the GOP nomination. Minorities showed up in record numbers at the poll in 08 and he still did not win Georgia.
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
8:35 am
tireofit – “If Mitten’s get elected we can only hope the Mayan’s where right.”
Actually, if Romney gets elected, it will PROVE the Mayans were right.
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
8:36 am
“MiltonMan – Your lunacy is exemplary chief!”
Says the man who quotes Penthouse 1979″
Says the man who keeps his lip-sticked copy of the 1977 letter & sleeps with it under his pillow.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
8:38 am
copy of the 1977 letter
erm, Milton? Care to recall who brought up the Panama Frickin’ Canal in the first place?
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
8:39 am
MiltonMan – “Says the man who keeps his lip-sticked copy of the 1977 letter & sleeps with it under his pillow.”
Out of my 5 posts, two of which were in relation to Trumps interview last night on FOX, one quoting the Art of War, and two referring to your Penthouse sources, where do you get the “lip sticked copy” from?
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
8:41 am
MiltonMan
March 29th, 2012
6:33 am
Jay hates Mitt
Pravada loves Obozo
Pravada = Jay
Enough said.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
What is Pravada? Intelligence FAIL.
Enough said.
http://www.imagepoop.com/image/1889/I-See-Stupid-People.html
poison pen
March 29th, 2012
8:42 am
Obamas budget was voted down, 414 to 0. Not one single Democrat voted for it. His own kind can’t stand him.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
8:43 am
They ran a black guy who set back race relations 10 years with his stereotype, sexual appetite, and that was the best that party could find to represent their open mindedness.
A modest proposal, and I’m not picking on GT here specifically, but…
Could we all — right, left, authoritarian, libertarian — agree to retire the “setting back [fill in the blank] relations [fill in the number] years” maxim?
Aside from its overuse, it implies that one boneheaded representative from some group magically affects majority opinions about that group for eons, and experience shows that really isn’t the case—people’s attention spans just aren’t wired that way.
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
8:43 am
poison pen – “His own kind can’t stand him.”
I know, kind of like the GOP and Romney.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 29th, 2012
8:44 am
Fred
but I told him the Devil wears “pravada”
and that makes Jay = Meryl Streep
yet, he won’t even acknowledge it.
Talking Head
March 29th, 2012
8:45 am
This is a very likely scenerio to place for the rest of this year:
SCOTUS strikes down ObamaCare.
Gas prices will continue to rise.
Marco Rubio will join Mitt as his VP.
Mitt and Rubio win in Nov.
Joseph
March 29th, 2012
8:45 am
On the heels of a 414-0 budget defeat do you honestly think people are warming to Obama? Say what you will about this poll but Obama doesn’t even crack 50% in Gallop or Rasmussen for job approval. That is horrible for a sitting President. Think about when the ads when they begin to run and how Republicans will ask the folks are they better off now than they were four years ago. Many will certainly say no especially with Obama’s dismal record of record spending and little to show for it. Gas prices have more than doubled and he has absolutely no plan whatsoever except giving so called green companies millions to fail. I know the dems are desperate to cover for their failed leader but he being reelected defies logic….
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
8:46 am
I haven’t lived in Atlanta since 2001, But isn’t Milton just a little douchy side note between Roswell and Alpharetta?
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
8:47 am
His own kind can’t stand him.
Can someone more patient, and more capable of using simple, small words effectively, than I am, explain the legislative process to our poison pen?
Thanks.
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
8:49 am
Joseph – Think about when the ads when they begin to run and how Republicans will ask the folks are they better off now than they were four years ago.”
You mean compared to this 4 years ago?:
1. Global Financial Crisis
It’s being called the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. And like the Great Depression, the 2008 version began in the United States, but soon spread around the world.
Beginning with the subprime mortgage crisis of September, the situation soon escalated with the bankruptcy of the large investment bank Lehman Brothers. More banks failed. World stock markets plunged. Panic selling ensued. Companies collapsed or laid off workers — more than 500,000 jobs were lost in the United States in November alone.
The former chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan, put the unfolding drama into perspective in September when he called it a “once-in-a-century type of financial crisis.”
Iceland’s banking system collapsed in October, forcing it to ask for help from the International Monetary Fund. Other countries, such as Hungary, Latvia, Ukraine, Belarus, and Pakistan, also sought assistance from the IMF.
Leaders from 20 of the world’s rich and developing economies met in Washington in mid-November to discuss a unified response. Calls were made for a dramatic overhaul of the world’s financial architecture.
There are now fears for the collapse of the U.S. auto industry, one of the backbones of American industry.
The Fed’s key interest rate stands practically at zero, effectively eliminating it as a tool of monetary policy.
In the United States alone, it’s estimated that the government’s bailout effort has cost $8.5 trillion…and counting, as President Obama plans to enact his own rescue plan once he takes office on January 20.
Becky
March 29th, 2012
8:50 am
Now Butch-Milton is a quaint little town. Don’t go judging the area by one misguided fool.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
8:50 am
But isn’t Milton just a little douchy side note between Roswell and Alpharetta?
That section of the county has been crying big ol’ tears for years about how them
ni*CLANG*speople in southern fulton are “using them as an ATM.”They’re fed this crap from local right wing pundits, who are forever on the lookout for ways to screw working class people in more urbanized settings.
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
8:51 am
And, like Becky, I actually LIKE Milton and its environs. I know lots of people from around there who aren’t the least bit ungrateful or douche-y.
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
8:52 am
Oh and Joseph, you’ll note that this figure pre-dates Obama taking office. Just FYI:
In the United States alone, it’s estimated that the government’s bailout effort has cost $8.5 trillion…
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
8:52 am
anyway, gotta leave this time-suck. Later, gators, maybe when Jay has something new for us.
RB from Gwinnett
March 29th, 2012
8:53 am
Geez… More of Jays endless polls telling us how the whole planet hates republican candidates and loves Obama as is if we should too.
Notice he never gives any reason why anybody loves Obama?…
Fred ™
March 29th, 2012
8:54 am
Granny, I saw that. I think it went over his head as well.
timbo
March 29th, 2012
8:54 am
Obama’s 2 accomplishments in his 4 years were stimulus and health care. His stimulus package was a complete failure, and his health care package is about to get thrown out by the SCOTUS. Gas prices are running out of control, high unemployment for 4 years, and still no signs of a recovering economy. But yet Jay does his opinion piece on how unpopular Mitt Romney is using polling data from the left wing media? You guys are getting desperate. I can’t wait to see your articles in October.
Butch Cassidy
March 29th, 2012
8:56 am
Timbo – “Gas prices are running out of control, high unemployment for 4 years, and still no signs of a recovering economy.”
I guess timbo misses the good old days as well:
Beginning with the subprime mortgage crisis of September, the situation soon escalated with the bankruptcy of the large investment bank Lehman Brothers. More banks failed. World stock markets plunged. Panic selling ensued. Companies collapsed or laid off workers — more than 500,000 jobs were lost in the United States in November alone.
The former chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan, put the unfolding drama into perspective in September when he called it a “once-in-a-century type of financial crisis.”
Iceland’s banking system collapsed in October, forcing it to ask for help from the International Monetary Fund. Other countries, such as Hungary, Latvia, Ukraine, Belarus, and Pakistan, also sought assistance from the IMF.
Leaders from 20 of the world’s rich and developing economies met in Washington in mid-November to discuss a unified response. Calls were made for a dramatic overhaul of the world’s financial architecture.
There are now fears for the collapse of the U.S. auto industry, one of the backbones of American industry.
The Fed’s key interest rate stands practically at zero, effectively eliminating it as a tool of monetary policy.
In the United States alone, it’s estimated that the government’s bailout effort has cost $8.5 trillion…and counting, as President Obama plans to enact his own rescue plan once he takes office on January 20.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 29th, 2012
8:58 am
stands
he’d never understand, he is not capable
hell even the Washington Times called the vote
“a vote Republicans arranged to try to embarrass him and shelve his plan for the rest of the year.”
stands for decibels
March 29th, 2012
8:58 am
Obama’s 2 accomplishments in his 4 years
timbo, this link’s for you
(language alert)
http://tinyurl.com/2fl9gzk
/drive-by
Common Sense isn't very Common
March 29th, 2012
9:01 am
Newt sheets upstairs.
yuck Newt SHEETS
timbo
March 29th, 2012
9:08 am
Butch-
You need new talking points. The old ones just don’t have the luster they once had.
JamVet
March 29th, 2012
9:12 am
“Carter was a perhaps the worst president all-time regardless of the Iranian epsidoe:”
Regarding MiltonMan, who raised that vegetable?
HDB
March 29th, 2012
9:13 am
GT
March 29th, 2012
8:29 am
You’re so on point!! GREAT post!!
timbo
March 29th, 2012
9:19 am
Stands -
Dang, my filter here at work will not let me open the link. Really wish I could have read another ‘Blame Bush’ article.
Joe the Prophet
March 29th, 2012
9:26 am
The more people learn about Mormonism, the more they understand why Mormons were chased out of 3 states before settling in the desert…which was then Mexico…!!!!!!
timbo
March 29th, 2012
9:35 am
Joe-
Looks like a Mormon vs a Muslim in 2012. Ought to be a great fight, huh?
Joe the Prophet
March 29th, 2012
12:27 pm
Gary Johnson (Libertarian) is a Lutheran……..Ron Paul is Baptist……Just sayin’……
Mighty Righty
March 30th, 2012
4:36 pm
The people are just not warming to Obama. three years as president and a majority of the american people just don’t seem to support him.