Surprise! Mandate’s fate may ride on Kennedy
Tom Goldstein, a veteran litigator before the U.S. Supreme Court and publisher of ScotusBlog, listened to the morning’s argument over the ObamaCare mandate and posted the following assessment:
“Towards the end of the argument the most important question was Justice Kennedy’s. After pressing the government with great questions Kennedy raised the possibility that the plaintiffs were right that the mandate was a unique effort to force people into commerce to subsidize health insurance but the insurance market may be unique enough to justify that unusual treatment. But he didn’t overtly embrace that. It will be close. Very close.”
I know firsthand that trying to discern a judge’s mindset based on the questions that he or she asks is tricky business at best. The judge may be asking tough questions of one side merely to hone his or her own later arguments in support of that side.
For example, consider the divergence between two witnesses to the discussion, first from Lyle Denniston, also of ScotusBlog:
If Justice Anthony M. Kennedy can locate a limiting principle in the federal government’s defense of the new individual health insurance mandate, or can think of one on his own, the mandate may well survive. If he does, he may take Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Jr., along with him. But if he does not, the mandate is gone. That is where Tuesday’s argument wound up — with Kennedy, after first displaying a very deep skepticism, leaving the impression that he might yet be the mandate’s savior.
Meanwhile, Jeffrey Toobin of CNN concludes from the questioning that Kennedy is “a lost cause” for the Obama administration:
“This was a train wreck for the Obama administration. This law looks like it’s going to be struck down. I’m telling you, all of the predictions including mine that the justices would not have a problem with this law were wrong… if I had to bet today I would bet that this court is going to strike down the individual mandate.”
– Jay Bookman
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Paul
March 27th, 2012
1:36 pm
Peadawg
“YOU DON’T NEED CAR INSURANCE IF YOU DON’T OWN A CAR. NEXT! ”
You don’t need medical insurance if you don’t have a body. Next? ‘
stands for decibels
March 27th, 2012
1:37 pm
paying 2 grand per employee will bankrupt my buddy
I’m sure that’s been the first reaction. How about factoring in your buddy’s business competition? do those competitors not also have employees to cover?
I’m not saying legislation like this is without disruptions; nor am I a fan of having businesses subsidize health insurance (I’d much rather we had a single payer that had reasonable monthly premiums for all of us) But without knowing the details, it’s kind of hard to put much credence in such objections as your friend’s.
Paul
March 27th, 2012
1:37 pm
Lots of arguments being made against. Posters should really listen to the SCOTUS audio to see how few of those are being made and how they are disposed of.
They BOTH suck
March 27th, 2012
1:37 pm
Bro
I’m a coffee man as well……….. Like my lady I usually just like it black, but when I opt to dilute it….. I just use milk or cream….
Peadawg
March 27th, 2012
1:38 pm
“You don’t need medical insurance if you don’t have a body. Next? ‘”
*facepalm*
a more accurate analogy is you don’t need health insurance if you don’t go to the doc or er.
Aquagirl
March 27th, 2012
1:38 pm
I’m just saying it’s not the end of the world either side seems to think it would be.
If you die from lack of healthcare that’s pretty much the end of your world.
Brosephus™
March 27th, 2012
1:39 pm
Paul
What a post to lead the page off!!!!!! That one needs a tshirt to make it complete.
Oscar
March 27th, 2012
1:40 pm
If the mandates are upheld, it will be a big victory for the insurance industry, and those in favor of health care continued to be controlled by them. The mandates were an idea from the conservatives, Newt, Mitt and the Heritage Foundation as an alternative to government managed health care.
MoreRightthanLeft
March 27th, 2012
1:40 pm
this is getting dumber by the second, even dumber that they passed this bill without even reading it…Really? libs? you dont see anything wrong with that..at all..do you love and trust your govt that much..its already costing more thatn what obama said it would…it will continually increase in cost and it will never stop, 2200 pages will be 10000 more in adjustment, radifcations and added amendments
Jay
March 27th, 2012
1:41 pm
For those interested, a transcript of today’s court discussion is available at
http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/11-398-Tuesday.pdf
Paul
March 27th, 2012
1:43 pm
Peadawg
“a more accurate analogy is you don’t need health insurance if you don’t go to the doc or er.”
So your daughter or granddaughter has a compound fracture of the leg. What are you going to do – set if for her?
You’re being silly. Or repeating soundbites. Same difference.
Paul
March 27th, 2012
1:43 pm
Brosephus
Where is Bosch when we need him?
Brosephus™
March 27th, 2012
1:45 pm
They BOTH
Very seldom will I add cream to my coffee. I usually do mine black with sugar.
emo
March 27th, 2012
1:46 pm
Why Clarence thomas doesn’t ask questions? When your mind is made up you may become confused by facts.
In practice, as has been posted, probably both sides are pretty well decided, and that’s why Kennedy is always the swing vote ( Sandra O’Connor’s former role). They could always limit it to this particular situation. See Bush V. Gore, “This decision is not to be construed as applying to any other case.”
I know that the Republican “plan” is Paul Ryan’s $6000 voucher. What I don’t ever hear is if that plan includes provisions that 1) all insurance companies must accept your voucher, and 2) that that voucher will cover medical expenses exactly the way Medicare does now. Otherwise, it’s written on toilet paper.
Brosephus™
March 27th, 2012
1:46 pm
Pau
I don’t know, but I may have to enter the tshirt business myself this year. Too many good ones not being made.
Fred ™ Being Black since 8:57 this morning
March 27th, 2012
1:47 pm
dB: It really doesn’t take that much hardware. For a Laptop I don’t know, I hate the things lol. but for a desktop, (which you hook to your TV) you could go really cheap with something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883108659
I build my own though.
Fetus on a stick
March 27th, 2012
1:48 pm
The storm clouds are gathering for the health law…
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c1#/video/crime/2012/03/27/nr-toobin-mandate.cnn
Die MF, Die MF!
Peadawg
March 27th, 2012
1:48 pm
“So your daughter or granddaughter has a compound fracture of the leg. What are you going to do – set if for her?”
And I’M being silly?
Adam
March 27th, 2012
1:48 pm
LOL this is pure troll fodder.
Georgia on my mind....
March 27th, 2012
1:48 pm
It will be interesting to see how this law will be written in the history books as well as the bios of the Supreme Court Justices involved in the final outcome!
emo
March 27th, 2012
1:50 pm
‘even dumber that they passed this bill without even reading it…’
That was the GOP that didn’t read it. Why bother reading something you’ve been ordered to vote against?
Paul
March 27th, 2012
1:51 pm
Peadawg
“And I’m being silly?”
Yes, when you say things like you don’t need health insurance if you don’t go to the doctor.
Fred ™ Being Black since 8:57 this morning
March 27th, 2012
1:51 pm
stands for decibels
March 27th, 2012
1:37 pm
paying 2 grand per employee will bankrupt my buddy
I’m sure that’s been the first reaction. How about factoring in your buddy’s business competition? do those competitors not also have employees to cover?
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No, not really. He is a “small business” with about 250 employees. Some he offers healthcare to, some he doesn’t. He competes against much larger companies. These much larger companies were able to make the payoffs to get the “exemptions” from the law that he wasn’t able to get. bottom line, his competition doesn’t have to pay the extra $500,000 per year but he does. That not only has him working for free, but actually has him PAYING a couple 100 grand a year for the right to work and own a company.
Peadawg
March 27th, 2012
1:54 pm
“Yes, when you say things like you don’t need health insurance if you don’t go to the doctor.” – Just like you don’t need car insurance if you don’t own a car. Why would you need health insurance if you never use it?
Adam
March 27th, 2012
1:55 pm
You don’t need health insurance if you never:
a) Go to the doctor
b) Go to the emergency room
c) Get in a car accident where the car insurance (if it exists) doesn’t cover all of the cost
d) Get shot (maybe for wearing something someone didn’t like)
e) All of the above
Adam
March 27th, 2012
1:56 pm
Of course, I suppose if you never intend to pay any medical bills ever you could answer that question.
Lord Help Us
March 27th, 2012
1:56 pm
Pea, do you know anyone that has never been to the doctor?
mm
March 27th, 2012
1:56 pm
“this is getting dumber by the second, even dumber that they passed this bill without even reading it…Really? libs? ”
Will this lie ever die? Pelosi was referring to the voters.
Thulsa Doom with his boot on liberal throats
March 27th, 2012
1:56 pm
Oscar,
Yep. You hit on what a lot of the liberals don’t know. If the mandate is upheld its going to be a boon for the insurance industry. Plain and simple.
Peadawg
March 27th, 2012
1:57 pm
“Pea, do you know anyone that has never been to the doctor?” – Not personally, nope.
Aquagirl
March 27th, 2012
1:57 pm
Yes, when you say things like you don’t need health insurance if you don’t go to the doctor.
Maybe his granddaughter is a Christian Scientist who was born on the kitchen table and will never, ever access our healthcare system. I’m sure there’s hundreds of millions of people like that in America.
They BOTH suck
March 27th, 2012
1:58 pm
Jay
Based on the tough questioning from several of the justices today, what would you say the percentage is of the law being up held in its current form?
Peadawg
March 27th, 2012
1:58 pm
I’m just trying to help out the people who love to use car insurance as an argument for the mandate.
CHEVY runs deep!!
March 27th, 2012
1:58 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kH_EZF0XqM&ob=av2e
Common Sense isn't very Common
March 27th, 2012
1:58 pm
for those of you who don’t want to be forced to buy health insurance
DON’T FALL OFF YOUR SOAPBOX
and
BE CAREFUL ON THAT HIGH HORSE
JamVet
March 27th, 2012
1:58 pm
Health insurance is for the rich only.
Instead of you hundreds of thousands of Republicans choosing to buy large flat screen TVs, the latest cell phones, expensive sneakers and drive around in Cadillacs, you should pay the exorbitant and rising monthly costs to protect you and your families, huh?
Joseph
March 27th, 2012
1:59 pm
Democrats just love to force people to do something…. Wheather they like it or not….
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 27th, 2012
2:00 pm
peadawg
“Peadawg
March 27th, 2012
1:20 pm
“I’m cut from much braver and more practical cloth.” – No. You just love that daddy gov’t watching over you in this case.
That’s personally not for me.
Nosiree, stop right there
I think you might want to cogitate on that for a while.
It’s immensely wrong.
Daddy watching me PAY insurance premiums???
Another one from you to chalk up to youth and inexperience.
They BOTH suck
March 27th, 2012
2:00 pm
“You hit on what a lot of the liberals don’t know.”
TD: go back to the broad brushes that you use so so well… That paint sprayer is not really you…. you didn’t adjust the tip on the sprayer……. paint coming out much to thick……… yes… even for you
Thomas
March 27th, 2012
2:02 pm
Sad part of the entire process is the back office deals and the opaqueness surrounding the passage. We favor all or nothing deals as well as immediacy. In 2008 Pelosi was holding up a 50 page loan document saying no one could understand it. In 2010 Pelosi was holding up a 2,500 page Obamacare document saying pass it so that we could read it.
The whole thing is a cluster f. Pick the top 3-5 items that need changing and start changing the items. Bend the cost curve 2-3% a year for 5 years.
Adam
March 27th, 2012
2:03 pm
Because 2500 pages is just TOO DAMN HIGH/COMPLICATED
Fred ™ Being Black since 8:57 this morning
March 27th, 2012
2:03 pm
Why do I have a name jacker?
Fred ™ Being Black since 8:57 this morning
March 27th, 2012
2:05 pm
Come on Fred you gutless coward. You KNOW you are trying to pose as me. Man up and get your own damn handle.
Paul
March 27th, 2012
2:05 pm
Peadawg
“Why would you need health insurance if you never use it?”
You’re getting back on the silly car insurance circular circle.
I’m sure you’re not aware of anyone in history who was never ill or injured enough to require medical care.
It’s okay to admit sound bites don’t make good legislation.
carlosgvv
March 27th, 2012
2:06 pm
Since this is an election year, look for a party line vote.
JamVet
March 27th, 2012
2:06 pm
If I can get free taxpayer supported care at the emergency room, why on earth should I have to buy insurance with my own money?
Oh, I don’t know troll, maybe because you are smart enough to figure out that there are MANY, MANY other instances besides the ER where health insurance comes into play?
(Maybe being the key word.)
Paul
March 27th, 2012
2:06 pm
Adam
“Of course, I suppose if you never intend to pay any medical bills ever you could answer that question.”
Which leads to the next issue – that conservatives believe they have the right to demand other people pay for their medical costs when they choose to not carry insurance.
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
March 27th, 2012
2:07 pm
“Democrats just love to force people to do something…. Wheather they like it or not….”
You mean like the “Virginia’s Transvaginal Ultrasound Bill”??
They BOTH suck
March 27th, 2012
2:07 pm
Thomas
Are we to assume that a Republican Party that had control of Congress from 94 to 06, and 6 of those yrs the WH now want to do something in terms of health-care?
I’ve heard numerous Republicans on tv saying that change is needed but not the change that the new laws are mandating…….. Is that just talk? If not, why was basically nothing done when they had the chance to craft laws, regs and work with insurance companies in regards to these issues?
TaxPayer
March 27th, 2012
2:08 pm
I think the outstanding question is, if the mandate is struck down by the Supremes, what will the Republicans have left to campaign on. Their war on women is going to rip them to shreds if they do not back off that one. The economy continues to do better in spite of their efforts. Unemployment rate continues to improve except in radical Republican strongholds such as Georgia and they get what they deserve. If the Republicans cannot lie about treying to help people keep the health care that they want, what do they have? The Ryan yellowbrick roadmap to hell! Riiiiiight.
MiltonMan
March 27th, 2012
2:08 pm
Libs attacking a conservative black judge = perfectly acceptable
Cons attacking a lib “black” president = racism
Breaking News: Zimmerman was a registered Democrat. Democratic Protestors are protesting democrat on democrat crime.
Hilarious on all venues.
ty webb
March 27th, 2012
2:08 pm
“that conservatives believe they have the right to demand other people pay for their medical costs when they choose to not carry insurance.”
no they don’t.
.
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
March 27th, 2012
2:09 pm
“Libs attacking a conservative black judge = perfectly acceptable”
*yawns*
Paul
March 27th, 2012
2:09 pm
Peadawg
Actually, Aquagirl provided an out for your concerns. Congress provided exemptions for religious beliefs.
You know…. Congress… Democrats… those liberals who are waging a war on Christianity like with the birth control issue…
stands for decibels
March 27th, 2012
2:09 pm
but for a desktop, (which you hook to your TV) you could go really cheap with something like this:
Thanks for the advice. I was thinking of more of a single-tasker, some wireless device that is essentially designed to capture such content and feed a signal to my living room tv… a Roku or suchlike.
But we already have an old desktop essentially gathering dust, it had (honestly) never occurred to me to try to repurpose it as a TV streamer. hmm.
MiltonMan
March 27th, 2012
2:10 pm
Hey tax – please provide us with all the unemployment levels for all states. You might be surprised (and actually edcuated for once) to see the results sport.
Jefferson
March 27th, 2012
2:10 pm
Imagine a country without health insurance. Would supply and demand hold and costs would only be what could be afforded. Would only the well heeled have access, if so where would all the health care workers work ? Deep dark depression, excessive misery .
JamVet
March 27th, 2012
2:10 pm
Militie, after disgracing yourself this morning, I’m surprised that you’re back for more.
Have you ever traced you lineage?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagellant
Paul
March 27th, 2012
2:11 pm
Peadawg
“I’m just trying to help out the people who love to use car insurance as an argument for the mandate.”
Seeings how it’s been demonstrated how nonapplicable that argument is, you can say “mission accomplished.”
Fred ™ Being Black since 8:57 this morning
March 27th, 2012
2:11 pm
MiltonMan
March 27th, 2012
2:08 pm
Libs attacking a conservative black judge = perfectly acceptable
Cons attacking a lib “black” president = racism
Breaking News: Zimmerman was a registered Democrat. Democratic Protestors are protesting democrat on democrat crime.
Hilarious on all venues.
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No what is hilarious is that to you it’s a “democrat crime” because the President spoke up on it. You are just that stupid. You sancton murdering a black child because of your irrational hatred of President Obama. You are just sick.
William
March 27th, 2012
2:11 pm
“Libs attacking a conservative black judge = perfectly acceptable. Cons attacking a lib “black” president = racism”
Ouch. The truth hurts.
MiltonMan
March 27th, 2012
2:11 pm
Paul, here is a little secret that has been known for almost 100+ years pal: Roman Catholics = Democrats
They BOTH suck
March 27th, 2012
2:13 pm
Milton
When looking at populations of each state it is a pretty mixed bag, so what is your point
http://www.bls.gov/lau/
Fred ™ Being Black since 8:57 this morning
March 27th, 2012
2:14 pm
dB: Yes, an older computer would probably be more than sufficient. Especially if you upgraded the GPU (frmerly know as a video card lol). I have an old Pentium 4 that I keep meaning to modify and attach to my TV and see how that goes.
Paul
March 27th, 2012
2:14 pm
Joseph
“Democrats just love to force people to do something…. Wheather they like it or not….”
Ahhh…. so it’s Democrats who want to force women to carry to term no matter what and to have ultrasounds…. I never knew that… thanks!
Thulsa Doom with his boot on liberal throats
March 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
MiltonMan,
Interestingly I saw an interview last night with one of Zimmerman’s best friends a black man who looked to be in his 40s. The man said not only did Zimm have no history of racism being a Hispanic man but that Zimm and his wife both had done volunteer tutuoring on Saturdays and Sundays to guess who?- mostly minority, mostly black students. Didn’t stop the liberals on here from screaming racism though before getting a fuller picture of the man.
Paul
March 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
ty webb 2:08
Care to expand on “no, they don’t”?
William
March 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
““Libs attacking a conservative black judge = perfectly acceptable. Cons attacking a lib “black” president = racism”
You have to love double standards.
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
March 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
William
March 27th, 2012
2:11 pm
Cons attacking a lib “black” president = racism”
“Ouch. The truth hurts.”
Only in your mind sport is that the truth.
stands for decibels
March 27th, 2012
2:16 pm
He competes against much larger companies. These much larger companies were able to make the payoffs to get the “exemptions” from the law that he wasn’t able to get
really?
I’m only aware of exemptions being made to employers who were already offering insurance to their employees; that the exemption was from some of the filing / paperwork requirements.
not calling your buddy a liar, but this doesn’t really add up.
Fred ™ Being Black since 8:57 this morning
March 27th, 2012
2:16 pm
MiltonMan
March 27th, 2012
2:11 pm
Paul, here is a little secret that has been known for almost 100+ years pal: Roman Catholics = Democrats
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You reprove your complete and utter stupidity with each post ypou make.
Republican Presidential Candidate Rick Santorum ins now a Democrat? or did he renounce his Catholicism?
Man are you dumb.
They BOTH suck
March 27th, 2012
2:16 pm
Milton
Same could be said for actual job growth by state, so what is your point?
http://www.deptofnumbers.com/employment/states/
MiltonMan
March 27th, 2012
2:16 pm
Psst Fred here you go “blinded by race one”: Zimmerman was a registered Democrat.
Climb back into your hole.
Paul
March 27th, 2012
2:16 pm
MiltonMan
“Paul, here is a little secret that has been known for almost 100+ years pal: Roman Catholics = Democrats”
So Democrats are waging war on themselves?!!?
stands for decibels
March 27th, 2012
2:17 pm
The man said not only did Zimm have no history of racism being a Hispanic man
Thulsa, your stupidity is revealed in new and creative ways every time you post, it seems.
ty webb
March 27th, 2012
2:17 pm
Paul,
Okay, they(conservatives) don’t believe what you said they believe.
Talking Head
March 27th, 2012
2:18 pm
Individual Mandate will be struck down.
Gas prices will continue to rise.
Obama loses election.
JamVet
March 27th, 2012
2:18 pm
So Democrats seeking justice when a Democrat kills a teenager is humorous to the depraved MiltonMan?
If he could grow one, a conscience would direct him to do the same when any human being, even a Republican, did that.
Yes, Milton, the laugh is on you…
Fred ™ Being Black since 8:57 this morning
March 27th, 2012
2:18 pm
dB: I already said, he offers insurance for some but not ALL his employees. Much like big dollar companies (who got exemptions) Walmart, UPS, and McDonalds. What doesn’t add up? The fact that he can’t pay off a Congressman or 6 to get an “exemption?”
Jefferson
March 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
I bet George wishes he, like Ruby didn’t take his guns to town.
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
March 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
stands for decibels
March 27th, 2012
2:17 pm
You cant teach Doom anything…..old dog dont learn new tricks. They just take me for a looooong drive out in the county and release them.
TaxPayer
March 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
MoltedMan,
Go back and read my post and explain it to me in your own words, again. Just so I know for certain that you simply fail at reading comprehension.
William
March 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
“Only in your mind sport is that the truth.”
Oh yeah, Snoopy? Why don’t you re-read the first page of comments on this column and acquaint yourself with some direct evidence?
Fred ™ Being Black since 8:57 this morning
March 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
Fred
March 27th, 2012
2:18 pm
Sorry to burst your inflated ego, but I had not even noticed you. If you want a handle all to yourself, you need to be a bit more creative than “Fred.”.
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Right. Well anyway, you have been told. Name jacking is not tolerated. The usual “punishment’ is IPO banning for those who choose to ignore the rules.
MiltonMan
March 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
Fred please tell us “educated one” what political party the majority of Roman Catholics vote for clown?
Man playing Fred is comparable to watching a cat chase its own tail – pure entertainment
stands for decibels
March 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
dB: Yes, an older computer would probably be more than sufficient. Especially if you upgraded the GPU (frmerly know as a video card lol). I have an old Pentium 4 that I keep meaning to modify and attach to my TV and see how that goes.
Tough part is convincing my better half to permit me to drag that ugly piece of equipment into the living room, but hey, anything’s possible.
rightwing troll
March 27th, 2012
2:21 pm
Don’t care either way… nothing will change in my day to day life…
Religion, Politics and Greed
March 27th, 2012
2:21 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amv5UmSB2Bg
Aquagirl
March 27th, 2012
2:21 pm
no they don’t.
Ty, are you refudiating the law signed by St. Ronnie Reagan? You know, the one that required ER’s to accept patients? I always thought the conservatives claimed him as one of their own. I guess he’s been traded to the lib team.
MiltonMan
March 27th, 2012
2:22 pm
Jam, earlier pal we saw this cons vs. Trayvon message repeated over and over again. Now that it has been exposed that Zimmer was a registered Democrat, the tone has changed quite a bit.
Fred ™ Being Black since 8:57 this morning
March 27th, 2012
2:22 pm
MiltonMan
March 27th, 2012
2:16 pm
Psst Fred here you go “blinded by race one”: Zimmerman was a registered Democrat.
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What does his party affiliation have to do with your racism? Unlike you, I don’t give free passes to murderers because I have an irrational hatred for the President.
Mick
March 27th, 2012
2:23 pm
doom
Tread carefully sir, you are all but advocating that the zim man is getting a raw deal. Diversion from the facts will not get you anywhere and a patrolling citizens crime watcher packing heat is looking for trouble, in this case, he found it…
Thulsa Doom with his boot on liberal throats
March 27th, 2012
2:23 pm
Stands for decibels,
Your accusation of stupidity would hold more credence if you pointed out exactly how or why my comment was stupid as opposed to merely saying it was. But then that’s probably a lot to expect from you I’m sure.
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
March 27th, 2012
2:23 pm
William
March 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
Nope…no need. Asking where in the world has Thomas been is 6 years, isn’t attacking him.
Jerome Horwitz
March 27th, 2012
2:24 pm
One reason I’m for the indivdual mandate. As long as ER’s are forced to treat folks everyone needs insurance. Otherwise those costs are passed onto those who already have insurance. I’ve heard various reports that it costs about $1,000.00 to a family – that is what you pay because others will not purchase insurance.
Fred ™ Being Black since 8:57 this morning
March 27th, 2012
2:24 pm
MiltonMan
March 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
Fred please tell us “educated one” what political party the majority of Roman Catholics vote for clown?
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I have no idea who most Roman Catholics vote for clown. I didn’t know there was such an office as clown. Just like I didn’t know that Rick Santorum was a Democrat.
Mighty Righty
March 27th, 2012
2:25 pm
Taking out the individual mandate shouldn’t be a problem for liberals. Obama promised that if anyone likes their present insurance they can keep it. Unless of course he didn’t really mean it.
Normal, Plain and Simple
March 27th, 2012
2:25 pm
This is why “Obama Care” will pass…
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20120327/US.Military.School.Gay.Pride/
Minds are opening…finally
JOE COOL~DoWnToWn THUG
March 27th, 2012
2:26 pm
MiltonMan
March 27th, 2012
2:22 pm
No one cares about whether D or R or B or W in the case…..American wants to know how an unarmed child is killed and NO investigation happens.
Paul
March 27th, 2012
2:26 pm
ty webb
So conservatives believe they should not be forced to buy medical insurance, so when they get ill and need treatment and can’t pay for it themselves, who pays?