Faith and begorra, American style

Given their affinity for music and fighting, not to mention their nation’s troubled history, it’s no surprise that the Irish have a long and honored history of protest songs.

Also, in seemingly unrelated note, Bruce Springsteen comes to town Sunday to tour his new album, “Wrecking Ball,” which just became the No. 1-selling album in the country, displacing Adele.

So given that it’s St. Patrick’s Day tomorrow, I thought that this might be an appropriate way to roll our way into the weekend, with Springsteen singing “Death to My Hometown,” in which he borrows heavily from the Irish tradition:

– Jay Bookman

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My Favorite Bruce Springsteen song..

March 16th, 2012
4:03 pm

JamVet

March 16th, 2012
4:06 pm

They BOTH suck

March 16th, 2012
4:07 pm

Cool selection Jay……….

Speaking of Irish…….. How about this band?

as always…… TURN IT UP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9f_HHV5Pc4&feature=related

Bruno

March 16th, 2012
4:10 pm

Catch you guys in a little while.

A little Bruce for PB:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk9bZuTOamg

With her killer graces and her secret places
That no boy can fill with her hands on her hips
Oh and that smile on her lips
Because she knows that it kills me
With her soft french cream
Standing in that doorway like a dream
I wish she’d just leave me alone
Because french cream won’t soften them boots
And french kisses will not break that heart of stone
With her long hair falling
And her eyes that shine like a midnight sun
Oh-o she’s the one, she’s the one

They BOTH suck

March 16th, 2012
4:11 pm

paleo-Springsteenatrian

March 16th, 2012
4:15 pm

reminds me of the scene in “The Other Guys” in which Will Ferrell signs depressing Irish ballads songs over pints with a bunch of white-haired, red-nosed crooners; ‘cept The Other Guys was a comedy. The Boss can is still a master wordsmith, but same-old/same-old with the whining. I liked him better when he observed the same injustice, dispair, and frustration; but presented it via the angst and restlessness of an anxious, manic gear-head looking for salvation in a ‘69 Chevy with a 396, and/or Wendy’s undying love.

Still a Neil Diamond fan

March 16th, 2012
4:16 pm

paleo-Springsteenatrian

March 16th, 2012
4:16 pm

oops…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxuThNgl3YA

JamVet

March 16th, 2012
4:16 pm

The one and only time I made it to the jawdropping Amoeba Records in Hollywood, I bought as many LPs as I could carry out of there; some Rundgren, some Utopia and several from this guy – the smokinest axeman to ever come out of Ballyshannon, County Donegal.

What a tragedy losing him so young…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKaiHamPT54

Patrick

March 16th, 2012
4:19 pm

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
4:20 pm

Patrick

March 16th, 2012
4:21 pm

And yes–I know they are Scottish but it sounds kinda Irish-y…

carlosgvv

March 16th, 2012
4:21 pm

Every year, at this time, we have TV personalities trying to sound Irish saying “today, everyone’s Irish”. People wear green and bars serve green beer. And, we have parades. If all the people who act this way actually knew just how corny and plain stupid this makes them look, maybe this inane “tradition” would come to an end.

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
4:21 pm

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
4:23 pm

I’ll just post a few songs. I really don;t want to talk to any of you tonight. so there…………

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYjO-L48ZQQ&ob=av2e

Jay

March 16th, 2012
4:25 pm

Being silly and corny(beef) is kind of the point, Carlos.

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
4:25 pm

They BOTH suck

March 16th, 2012
4:26 pm

ex-pat Garden Stater who did time in ATL

March 16th, 2012
4:27 pm

back in ‘96 I wrote for the now defunct Poets, Artists & Madmen. my first published screed concerned “The Ghost of Tom Joad” and how Bruce’s talent and performance forced club owners and record company types to “lay off’ other musicians. And if one is familiar with the Springsteen narrative even his nomme de rock; The Boss, comes from his authoritarian position in the early days of the E Street Band. The truth is; there was a moment in time when Bruce and Southside Johnny were essentially equal. Why does Bruce get gigs on The Daily Show and cover stories in Rolling Stone (and Philips Arena); while Southside is playing fundraisers and corporate gigs? If Rock n Roll music were a currency or commodity; Bruce would be Goldman Sachs or Bank of America. I am speaking figuratively, of course; as I do recognize Bruce’s ethical advantage, but his desire to “control the market” is no less zealous than the evil Wall Street crowd; or the (real estate) vultures that “picked our bones clean” . my guess is when push comes to shove; Bruce takes care of his own, and as Steward Smalley observed; …that’s…OK.

Bruno

March 16th, 2012
4:29 pm

If all the people who act this way actually knew just how corny and plain stupid this makes them look, maybe this inane “tradition” would come to an end.

carlos–You’ve indicated that you are older now, perhaps around retirement age. Wouldn’t you rather spend the time you have left enjoying life, rather than focusing on the negatives?? What do you do to relax and enjoy yourself?? The Bookman Blog community is concerned for you.

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
4:29 pm

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
4:33 pm

carlosgvv

March 16th, 2012
4:34 pm

Jay – 4:25
Bruno – 4:29

I’m just wondering why grown men and women would want to deliberately be openly silly and corny.
I know life is hard and tough today but there must be better ways to cope.

josef

March 16th, 2012
4:38 pm

IMAM O’BRUIN

Aye, an what was that ye had to say about the tribals? :-)

CARLOS

You know, you could take a lesson from the Irish…at it’s worst, life is still good and a little clebration won’t hurt you none! Besides, if you’ll just go ahead and off yourself we could ALL celebrate,,, and may ye be in h’ven ‘alf an hour fore the devil knows yer daid… :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6QTwZDzak4

moonbat betty

March 16th, 2012
4:39 pm

House of Pain

JamVet will love the beginning of this (smirk):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXwtHJQ66Rk

JamVet

March 16th, 2012
4:41 pm

Sure, the “everybody’s Irish on St. Patty’s Day” is goofy, but what the hell? Like JB wrote, isn’t that the point?

My connections to England run very deep, and that”l have to do!

Any excuse for a party, and as often as not, at least before they got too painful, one helluva good drunk!

My dad and I shared a real bond and true love for Celtic music. Some of that later, but not just yet.

The great Rory G does a country waltz…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i29CfLPh2EA

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
4:43 pm

George Walton

March 16th, 2012
4:43 pm

To the obama hypocrits.
Let your eyes glisten again.

.
Must it take a life for hateful eyes
To glisten once again
Five hundred years like Gelignite
Have blown us all to hell
What savior rests while on his cross we die
Forgotten freedom burns
Has the Shepard led his lambs astray
to the bigot and the gun.
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Zs1xfxaq4
.
Vote Ron Paul.
Liberty………try it…………….you’ll like it.

josef

March 16th, 2012
4:46 pm

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
4:48 pm

carlosgvv

March 16th, 2012
4:49 pm

I learned a long time ago to always hold up my hand in class and ask my question, even if it meant some other students might laugh at me. So, when I post here, it’s a virtual certainty I’m saying what a number of others feel but are to afraid to post because they are afraid someone will ridicule them. As for St. Patrick’s day, don’t get me wrong. It’s a free country and if it makes you happy to celebrate this day, I would be the last person in America to deny you that right. It’s just not something I’ve ever had an interest in. And, Bruno, thank you for your concern.

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
4:52 pm

Robert Lee

March 16th, 2012
4:52 pm

Woe be to those who lose the ability to be silly and laugh at themselves occasionally

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
4:54 pm

Holy Shi’ite, it took me forever to find a decent Flogging Molly song that I could play in this Country…….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TamOrADrhwc

carlosgvv

March 16th, 2012
4:55 pm

Robert Lee

True, but there are better ways to do it than to run around trying to imitate an Irish accent, dress in green, drink green beer and generally make a complete fool of yourself. A little dignity goes a long way.

JamVet

March 16th, 2012
4:55 pm

What a powerful line, George.

No colour left
But black and white
And soon will all turn grey

I barely know that band but that was one great song.

Speaking of which, this one, from a slightly better known band is really a stunner…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpDQJnI4OhU

josef

March 16th, 2012
4:57 pm

A little double dip on the Irish angle…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOgv-UuTgac

George Walton

March 16th, 2012
4:58 pm

Jamvet—-
.
There ain’t NOTHING that can’t be solved over a pint of brew.

ex-pat Garden Stater who did time in ATL

March 16th, 2012
5:02 pm

carlos, just about every secular holiday (Halloween/Day of the Dead), Christmas/Northern European Winter Solstace meets Vatican, Easter, Valentine’s Day, etc.; has some cross-polination between some alleged miracle or faith/myth hybrid event or person; so if non-Irish/non-Christians want to be Irish for one day; I say no harm, no foul. Of course, this begs to ask why non-Muslims donned burkas or practiced jihad on Ramadan or whatever?

Brosephus™ - Prima Donna since 3/16/2012

March 16th, 2012
5:03 pm

Since my grandmother’s b’day is the 17th, I’ll take a moment to reflect upon the time I got to spend with her before she passed on.

Then, I’ll enjoy a bit of singing…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DquA6KyHTos

And a little dancing….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py2TiFsq9T0

Everybody be safe and enjoy your weekend.

JamVet

March 16th, 2012
5:03 pm

George, LOL.

Homer Simpson has the most wonderful saying ever about that. Beer, the cause of and the solution to all of our problems.

Great, isn’t it?

jo, we’ve talked about this one before.

What I never said, was that when it came out, I could not force myself to like it very much. I think it hit much too close to home, back then. And it just made me damn melancholy…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_P-v1BVQn8

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
5:04 pm

Leprechaun

March 16th, 2012
5:05 pm

Where are me lucky charms?

As a Savannahan, I wish my hometown a boisterous celebration this year. :)

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ex-pat Garden Stater who did time in ATL

March 16th, 2012
5:05 pm

do not done burkas…

ex-pat Garden Stater who did time in ATL

March 16th, 2012
5:08 pm

gotta go – need to stock up on Guiness and Jamesons, as my Irish neighbors are coming over for dinner.

josef

March 16th, 2012
5:10 pm

CARLOS

Question, seriously, what DOES make you happy?

Jerome Horwitz

March 16th, 2012
5:12 pm

JamVet

March 16th, 2012
5:16 pm

Loved that Danny Boy. RC. And Is it just me, or were those Irish women really easy on the eyes? (grin)

The original Celtic music had a huge impact on our music, of course.

Not just the musical patterns, themselves.

But lyrically, those lovely laments…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOFVrDAnrGc

josef

March 16th, 2012
5:16 pm

CARLOS

Without our traditions, out lives would be as shaky as a fiddler on the roof…think about it…

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
5:17 pm

American Blues with an Irish flair……. Forgive me Mr. Pickett…….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEsoq0B1IOo

godless heathen

March 16th, 2012
5:17 pm

You all know that The Heathen is a big fan of Miss Elizabeth Cook (I bet she’s part Irish). We had the pleasure of seeing her and the boys perform at Eddie’s Attic last w/e. I knew it must have been a tough show, knowing that her Daddy had been placed in hospice care the week before. Her only mention of it at the show was that she had nearly had fist-fights with 2 hospice nurses that week. Well Daddy Cook passed away yesterday. This is a song Liz wrote about her mother’s funeral, but here it is dedicated to Elizabeth and her family. Give it a listen.

http://youtu.be/vgU0xOhpO6Q

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
5:19 pm

josef

March 16th, 2012
5:19 pm

ZamVet

I took a short swipe at Imam O’Bruin on the tribal thingie…but that whole Diaspora thing…just look at what the Irish have given the world at large in that Diaspora…who’s the Chilean national hero? :-)

paulo 977

March 16th, 2012
5:20 pm

Begorra… after all, we could do with some solid blessing
____________________________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd1nEjJENGI

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
5:24 pm

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
5:26 pm

Well we sure as hell can’t do this Irish dude’s tune. It’s old, it’s tired and it never was that good right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5GMHzPeEyA

godless heathen

March 16th, 2012
5:28 pm

Jam. I love me some Red River Valley. What a great rendition. Thanks for sharing that with us.

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
5:31 pm

It’s great being a pariah. A role I cherish. Sworn to none beholden to none and as free as the sun coming up in the morning. You can have your little cliques and all that sh…… stuff. I’ll relish my freedom. You don’t know me, you can’t define me and you sure as hell can’t control me. But of course you can always BITE ME.

Fred ™

March 16th, 2012
5:32 pm

Damn wrong button. Didn’t get the song in…..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZmNccJDwCI

godless o'heathen

March 16th, 2012
5:36 pm

There have been numerous casts of Riverdance through the years, but this red-head lass, Jean Butler, is the one the cocked o’heathen’s pistol.

http://youtu.be/YfDfFmuumCA

JamVet

March 16th, 2012
5:39 pm

I took a short swipe at Imam O’Bruin on the tribal thingie…

I saw. But at the risk of getting into your mini-brouhaha with Bruno, I gave it a miss!

And I guess at this point in the game, a lot of us are scattered and trying to find our way home, huh? Hell, I’m so lost I have no idea what direction to head in, so I guess I’ll just stay put for awhile and see what happens next.

Heathen, glad you liked it. I’ve liked that one since I was knee-high to a grasshopper. (Howz that for an old Midwestern saying?)

My favorite Van Morrison song…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-HX1aag9JM

Paul

March 16th, 2012
5:40 pm

JamVet 4:06

Leave it to you. I read “Irish” and “protest songs,” found that one, then thought “better check the postings…”

Now on to some real, traditional Irish music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBOtIhR65jg&feature=related

JamVet – just bought one. Have another on order – from Fred Rose, African blackwood, silver ferrules, Two-month wait, should arrive by my birthday.

josef

March 16th, 2012
5:48 pm

ZamVet

Oh, the post had nothing to do with the tribal thingie…it had to do with po, ole pitiful Carlos… the diaspora comment had to do with what it is the scattered take with them and enrich us all…

JamVet

March 16th, 2012
5:49 pm

Love, that tin whistle brother Paul. Also how great minds think alike!

Something about the simplicity of Irish and traditional Americana music that must resonate in a whole bunch of us…

Protest music, huh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4Nzmvgj4LI

Don't Forget

March 16th, 2012
5:53 pm

Leprechaun

March 16th, 2012
5:55 pm

Josef

Thinking is not for bloggers :)

Leprechaun

March 16th, 2012
5:56 pm

Josef

….at least not when you think about it :)

godless o'heathen

March 16th, 2012
5:57 pm

A piper man was blowin’ like the north Atlantic wind

http://youtu.be/COQpMNKOBF8

Bruno

March 16th, 2012
6:06 pm

JamVet–You’re FNM Mission Impossible is as follows, should you choose to accept.

(1) Roll a fattie

(2) Make the fattie self-destruct

(3) Listen to this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgUw6t3b6oE

It may not be Irish, but I bet you’ll be dancing a jig before it’s done.

JamVet

March 16th, 2012
6:07 pm

jonix, it is odd how carlos alone, does not want to put down his blogging sword on Friday nights and pick up a fiddle or guitar or tin whistle.

But different strokes for different folks.

Brother Kam, among others here, knows about Fiona Ritchie of The Thistle and Shamrock fame. That awesome NPR program (broadcast from Charlotte) is what first turned me onto the beauty of traditional Irish music. Sure, I had read Swift and Burke and Moore and of course, the mighty Yeats, but it was the musical interpretation of the Irish spirit that really captivated me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz1NhEmVgls

Matti

March 16th, 2012
6:12 pm

While I have enjoyed the festivities in Savannah a few times (road trip!), my Scottish bloodline makes the very thought of donning shamrock antennas completely unacceptable. But here’s my offering for the party. Scrappy, long-haired Scots singing Hair of the Dog:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEG0-3xlAkg

Bruno

March 16th, 2012
6:15 pm

I haven’t checked through all the early offerings, but I’d have to guess this Irish band has been represented already. this particular song goes out to Adam, who believes in his heart that half of the world is no good. The Republican half, that is. Sure glad my buddy Jam doesn’t feel that way. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE9hubGnqQM

JamVet

March 16th, 2012
6:15 pm

And paulo is one righteous guy, is he not?

His spirit is amazing. It is, as Lincoln so eloquently put it, the better angels of our nature…

Bruno

March 16th, 2012
6:18 pm

I’m not Irish, though I did win a “Show your shillelagh” contest once.

Don't Forget

March 16th, 2012
6:24 pm

Speaking of Tull, September 27 Cobb Energy Performing Arts Center. I believe he’ll still be doing “Thick as a Brick” in its entirety.

JamVet

March 16th, 2012
6:27 pm

heathen at 5:57, niiice. Lotta talent there, huh?

B, LOL. I linked the MJ Blige duo earlier. A testament to why they really are worldwide superstars.

Self destruct. That is so funny.

Bruno

March 16th, 2012
6:29 pm

DF–Not sure why, but concerts centered around a single album don’t appeal to me. I was one of the lucky ones to see the Wall concert in LA in 1980, but was disappointed overall. Something about not knowing what song is coming next makes it more fun. I enjoyed Roger Water’s concert far more back in 2008.

josef

March 16th, 2012
6:30 pm

ZamVet

If we made up a collection and rented him one of these, he might finally smile… :-)

http://www.eyeonromance.com/featured/irish.jpg

godless o'heathen

March 16th, 2012
6:33 pm

I once loved a bass. Jam: I had forgotten about Thistle and Shamrock. Used to hear it often but somehow I got out of the NPR on Saturday night habit. Is it still on?

Oscar

March 16th, 2012
6:35 pm

But just what does begorra mean?

godless o'heathen

March 16th, 2012
6:37 pm

No shortage of good Irish material.

http://youtu.be/cf0E_PJtJWg

Bruno

March 16th, 2012
6:39 pm

For anyone who has had the thrill of spending the night with a beautiful woman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5VMoi9EKUA

josef–You’re excused from listening to this song. ;-)

A little dignity goes a long way

March 16th, 2012
6:39 pm

@carlosgvv

March 16th, 2012
4:55 pm
Robert Lee

True, but there are better ways to do it than to run around trying to imitate an Irish accent, dress in green, drink green beer and generally make a complete fool of yourself. A little dignity goes a long way.
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I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU CARLOS.

josef

March 16th, 2012
6:40 pm

OSCAR

It’s not nice… :-)

Bruno

March 16th, 2012
6:41 pm

Well, I reviewed the lyrics to my 6:39, and I guess it could be co-opted. Okay, josef, all clear!!.

JamVet

March 16th, 2012
6:41 pm

heathen, I think so. Incredible, huh?

Oscar, too funny. I looked it up, not five minutes before your post:

The first one was used to precede some strong assertion and would have translated as something like ‘By my Faith..’ (meaning, by my Christian religion).

The second part (’Begorrah’) probably originated as follows: being reluctant to say ‘By God..’ , the common people said something like ‘by Gor’ , pronouncing it ‘Be Gor’ , which in time became ‘Begorrah’.

Matti, scrappy indeed. I saw them on that monster Hair of the Dog tour. And dig this, they’re out on a brand new tour and they are playing in Liverpool. Tonight!

The only song of theirs that most people have even heard. So huge, it got overplayed to death, but listen why!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7bF8YqrUFE

moonbat betty

March 16th, 2012
6:42 pm

Oh, JamVet,

FYI, the reason I referred to you earlier is because I confused your love of Dennis Miller with Dennis Leary. Sorry, got them mixed up! lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-LuQVKzZMM

godless o'heathen

March 16th, 2012
6:43 pm

Bruno,

Or there is always Rosie.

http://youtu.be/8rX6vumdt-A

josef

March 16th, 2012
6:44 pm

BRUNO

Well, ’scuse me…so, us Southern gay Jewboys aren’t allowed to feel that emotion…?

Seriously, though, that’s one of my favorite of his and it really does strike a chord…

Long way…
Dignity is not all it’s cracked up to be…. :-)

Bruno

March 16th, 2012
6:45 pm

Matti–Don’t know if you saw my song dedication to your boyfriends earlier this week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsvFK8gWIIQ

josef

March 16th, 2012
6:46 pm

BRUNO

Ooops.. you caught yourself in time…coopted, though? Hrrrrumph…

BTW

Have always had a secret mad crush on Jackson Brown…

Bruno

March 16th, 2012
6:50 pm

Ooops.. you caught yourself in time…coopted, though? Hrrrrumph…

josef–You seem to be forgetting the pecking order here. What kind of a tribalist are you??

Get Real

March 16th, 2012
6:51 pm

Jay…I am impressed you have had time to wite today given that Obama is in town, I would think you would have been first in line…

josef

March 16th, 2012
6:55 pm

from Unmentionable…just a little sidelight on what it means to be a part of the world about us and to recall our own sufferings when seeing the sufferings of others…

https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/michael/www/choctaw/robinson.html

Bruno

March 16th, 2012
6:55 pm

Or there is always Rosie.

I guess we all “cheat” with Rosie once in while heathen. ;-)

Bruno

March 16th, 2012
6:59 pm

heathen–You may have launched a new theme tonight–self-love.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvMgnH7sGI0

godless o'heathen

March 16th, 2012
7:00 pm

That’s o’heathen, Bruno.

josef

March 16th, 2012
7:00 pm

BRUNO

Of a Friday, I’m a Jay’s Jackasses tribalist! Pecking order gets thrown out the window… :-)

Bruno

March 16th, 2012
7:01 pm

I just did a little research, and found out that Masturbation Month is in May:

http://blogs.laweekly.com/afterdark/2011/05/may_is_masturbation_month_so_c.php

I always wondered why it was so hard to find hand lotion during that month…….

JamVet

March 16th, 2012
7:02 pm

Bro, if you check in later. Yum…

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/220/49789

betty, LOL. You are a riot. Find me some good Miller! (or don’t!)

heathen, on a roll, bud. All over the place, but all of it sweet.

jo, I think more than a few of us boys had a mancrush on him. (Big time LOL at me!)

Bruno, we could play JT for hours. Seeing them live is truly a gluttonous, exciting experience for all of the senses.