Ethics reform campaign ends up in trashbin
Today is the 30th day of the 2012 Georgia General Assembly, the day when proposed legislation must be passed by either the House or Senate or be banished to the trashcan for the rest of the session.
House Bill 1105, which would have put a limit of $100 on the value of “gifts” that lobbyists may give to legislators, is destined for that trashcan. From the moment the bill was introduced, House Speaker David Ralston made certain it was going nowhere by assigning it to the House Rules Committee, where it could be kept safely contained, like an crazy old aunt locked up in the basement. Today it dies.
A similar chain of events has played out on the other side of the Capitol, where Senate Bill 391 also would have put a limit of $100 on the value of “gifts” that could be given legally by lobbyists to legislators.
Unlike the speaker of the House, Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle publicly claims to support legislation limiting lobbyist “gifts.” He just has a very odd way of demonstrating that support.
Like his counterpart in the House, Cagle has ensured that SB 391 would never see the light of day by assigning it to his own chamber’s Rules Committee, where it has continued to sit untouched ever since.
The whole thing has become downright embarrassing: Every one of Georgia’s neighboring states has enacted either a ban or severe restriction on lobbyist “gifts,” but not Georgia. In fact, Georgia is one of only three states in the country with no restriction on that form of commerce.
In addition, public opinion polls show overwhelming support for a “gift” ban or restriction. Georgia citizens instinctively understand the danger that such “gift-giving” poses to honest government, and they want it to end. The consensus is so broad and widespread that as the year began, a coalition of groups from across the political spectrum, including Common Cause and Georgia Tea Party Patriots, made it their goal to outlaw expensive goodies.
Even with all that, neither of the bills introduced were given even the small courtesy of a subcommittee hearing.
While that’s a disappointment in its own right, it also reflects two larger realities. First, it tells you just how deep the sense of entitlement now runs among many, but certainly not all, of the people elected to represent us under the Gold Dome. They have come to believe that by virtue of their success and power they deserve such “gifts,” and they truly do not understand why others would try to deny them the rewards of their office.
Second and more importantly, it tells you a lot about who our legislators are truly serving. The willingness of legislative leaders to publicly thumb their noses at voter opinion so they can continue taking “gifts” from special interests suggests an attitude that plays out more subtly, but more harmfully, across a wide range of issues, from utility regulation to consumer protection to special tax giveaways to the well-connected.
We may elect these people and pay their salaries, but when crunch time comes, we’re not the ones they are trying to protect and serve.
– Jay Bookman
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Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 7th, 2012
8:32 pm
RT, I know, I know…..
Recon 0311 2533
March 7th, 2012
8:32 pm
“Sure, these components have come down in price over the years but spraying coffee or wine on them on a daily basis adds up.”
try a bit more self control…a messy desk could also expose a messy mind.
Soothsayer
March 7th, 2012
8:33 pm
Eventually, the last drop of oil will be gone. The last chunk of coal will have been burned. The last wif of natural gas will have been burned. The last ounce of uranium will have been mined and used in nuke-u-lar power plant.
Then what? Will mankind die out like the dinosaurs? Will billions of people starve to death? What will we do? Tell me, Righties! I’m waiting to hear it from you! No BS. Let me hear it.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 7th, 2012
8:35 pm
If Romney couldn’t stand up to “the most strident voices in your party how can he stand up to Ahmadinejad? How are you going to stand up to the challenges of the presidency? These are tests. Presidential campaigns are tests. You are tested every single days in different ways. The Limbaugh thing was a test of leadership, and you have them all the time, and Mitt Romney has failed those tests in the campaign.”
Mitt, not ready for prime time.
TaxPayer
March 7th, 2012
8:35 pm
Wasn’t that algae into fuel thingie one of many alternative fuel programs funded by the DoD.
Recon 0311 2533
March 7th, 2012
8:36 pm
Sooth, I thought you were a Christian believer, unless I’m wrong you should know the answer.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 7th, 2012
8:37 pm
TP, I believe so….. mimicking what nature does itself.
jack bull
March 7th, 2012
8:37 pm
Didn’t mankind make it without coal, uranium, natural gas, oil before? And when do you think this will happen? Until then, drill here, drill now, tax the heck out of the oil companies that are sending their finished product overseas while rewarding them for keeping it here, and eventually, we’ll have some other alternatives. Fact is, we don’t have those alternatives here now.
Soothsayer
March 7th, 2012
8:38 pm
“Sooth, I thought you were a Christian believer, unless I’m wrong you should know the answer.”
Del, I cut Sunday school that day. Maybe you can enlighten us.
They BOTH suck
March 7th, 2012
8:38 pm
So I had to run out to the store. While driving, I decide to listen to a little Eric Ericson (Red State, CNN, WSB radio). If anyone knows about Eric; you know he is a fairly conservative guy.
His take on the election. Romney will get the nomination and unless something crazy occurs expect him to lose. He stated that Romney in his opinion is the Republican Dukakis and went on to say “we know how that worked out”
George Will has already stated that Republicans need to move on to 2016 and work toward more attainable goals such as keeping House and winning the Senate.
Granted this is only two opinions out of 1000s of pundits, but it is strange that they are already conceding
TaxPayer
March 7th, 2012
8:38 pm
I especially have to watch my monitor and keyboard whenever that character that called himself Batman in his most recent tirade makes an appearance. That one has issues.
Gator Joe
March 7th, 2012
8:39 pm
The Republicans didn’t pass ethics legislation because they were exhausted after working so hard on immigration and agriculture, that is making certain farmers didn’t have sufficient workers to harvet their crops.
These people have no sense of what is ethical. Being ethical shouldn’t require laws or regulation.
Rightwing Troll
March 7th, 2012
8:39 pm
ILK!!!! Everybody drink!!!!
Actually algae CAN create fuel.
Is it your position that we don’t need to explore for, and ultimately find, an alternative to oil?
I understand you all are not big thinkers nor can you really see anything beyond defeating that colored guy, but even W indicated that dependence on oil is a national security issue, and oil IS a finite resource… at some point in the future there will be no oil. Is THAT when we should embatk on the endeavour of finding another source of energy? I mean, I understand you all don’t give a flip about the future, as evidenced by the profligate spending and ultimate destruction of our economy by W and his merry band of cons….
Doggone/Ga
March 7th, 2012
8:39 pm
“Didn’t mankind make it without coal, uranium, natural gas, oil before?”
Yep, but there’s a big difference between a couple of million people doing that and 5 or 6 billion.
Recon 0311 2533
March 7th, 2012
8:39 pm
“Mitt, not ready for prime time.”
I’ll bet that Obama’s campaign managers don’t ass-u-me that to be true.
moonbat betty (Thug Life. Damn it feels good to be a gangsta)
March 7th, 2012
8:39 pm
Sooth:
“Then what? Will mankind die out like the dinosaurs? Will billions of people starve to death? What will we do? Tell me, Righties! I’m waiting to hear it from you! No BS. Let me hear it.”
By then, we will have other technologies to replace them. Unfortunately, it’s not going to happen during Obama’s administration.
It takes time.
jack bull
March 7th, 2012
8:40 pm
and in the meantime, keep the proper air pressure in your tires!! According to ‘the chosen one’, this is the answer.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 7th, 2012
8:42 pm
TP, you probably know him by his many other former names and “forrays”.
Doggone/Ga
March 7th, 2012
8:42 pm
“According to ‘the chosen one’, this is the answer.”
Harry Potter gives advice on getting better gas mileage? Who knew?!
josef
March 7th, 2012
8:43 pm
TROLL
L’chaim!!!
TaxPayer
March 7th, 2012
8:43 pm
and in the meantime, keep the proper air pressure in your tires!!
I do because you get better fuel mileage as well as increased life for the tread. Tires cost money. Gas costs money.
Jm - ill mannered centrist
March 7th, 2012
8:43 pm
Bro 8:18 yep
Brosephus™ - tagline gone due to debt saving budget cuts
March 7th, 2012
8:43 pm
I can tell the blog has officially jumped the shark for the evening. On that note, I’m out…
Later!!!
Soothsayer
March 7th, 2012
8:44 pm
Betty: you must have watched Office Space the other night like I did.
Could you just expound a little on those “other technologies?” I really would like to hear them.
Bruno
March 7th, 2012
8:45 pm
Tell me, Righties! I’m waiting to hear it from you! No BS. Let me hear it.
It’s all bad, Sooth…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntLsElbW9Xo
Recon 0311 2533
March 7th, 2012
8:45 pm
“Del, I cut Sunday school that day. Maybe you can enlighten us.”
Been taught for a long time. I’m not qualified to enlighten anyone beyond that teaching.
Jm - ill mannered centrist
March 7th, 2012
8:46 pm
Moonbat 8:39 bingo
“Then what? Will mankind die out like the dinosaurs?”
No, by the time those run out we could literally do space mining.
But hydrogen and other technologies will probably be cheaper by then. Not so at this point.
kayaker 71
March 7th, 2012
8:46 pm
Seems that there is a new TV show coming out soon….. called GCB. Seems that some TV producer is intent on proving that Christian women are not really Christian at all. Portrays so called Christians as something less than societal standards…… They couldn’t give it their real name of Good Christian Bitches but elected to call it GCB. When will the attacks cease? When are good Christian people going to be left alone?
Soothsayer
March 7th, 2012
8:46 pm
Bruno: more inane tripe. Better get back to prescribing those statins.
Jm - ill mannered centrist
March 7th, 2012
8:47 pm
Crimson v crimson in November 2012
Sigh
Soothsayer
March 7th, 2012
8:48 pm
“No, by the time those run out we could literally do space mining.”
I ain’t gonna do no “space mining” without my tinfoil hat!
Bruno
March 7th, 2012
8:48 pm
Better get back to prescribing those statins.
Not my field.
Doggone/Ga
March 7th, 2012
8:49 pm
“No, by the time those run out we could literally do space mining”
Not for oil, gas or coal though.
They BOTH suck
March 7th, 2012
8:49 pm
“When are good Christian people going to be left alone?”
That’s what Obama was saying when many on the right claimed he was Muslim, born in Kenya, etc, etc,
But I digress…….. I’m not a Christian; so I will let those who are debate who is the better, more Christian indivduals
Recon 0311 2533
March 7th, 2012
8:49 pm
“When are good Christian people going to be left alone?”
After the revolution. On the way. I’m out.
F. Sinkwich
March 7th, 2012
8:50 pm
“Eventually, the last drop of oil will be gone. The last chunk of coal will have been burned. The last wif of natural gas will have been burned. The last ounce of uranium will have been mined and used in nuke-u-lar power plant.”
The free market will take care of this, not O’bozo’s heavy hand of a marxist government resticting freedom.
But he thinks he knows better. It’s a common malady among lib ilks — they believe they are smarter than everyone else, so everyone else must conform to their wishes.
getalife
March 7th, 2012
8:50 pm
It was funny watching newt tell the world his 2.50 bs was a marketing device.
The gop just say drill.
It is wrong as usual.
Soothsayer
March 7th, 2012
8:50 pm
Here’s a question for all of you:
In your next post, state how many years of oil you believe that the World has left?
Bruno
March 7th, 2012
8:51 pm
For Sooth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FZU4JVOmro
kayaker 71
March 7th, 2012
8:52 pm
In an economy which is totally dependent on fossil fuels I am not sure how America will understand Secretary Chu’s comments on the price of gasoline. He seems to be a little behind the curve. I am not sure how some long distance trucker would react to Bozo’s suggestion about inflating his tires…… he probably says, “I did that and diesel fuel is still $5.20/gal. These idiots making energy policy are living on some kind of nirvana planet where unicorns and space cadets live, certainly not long distance truckers. We have to get this idiot out of government housing……
TaxPayer
March 7th, 2012
8:52 pm
Seems that there is a new TV show coming out soon….. called GCB.
I just don’t see the appeal that some do with these reality teevee shows.
They BOTH suck
March 7th, 2012
8:53 pm
Sinkwich
Since when did YOU become a lefty……… Your quote fits you as well as anyone on this blog: right, left, center or indiffferent
“they believe they are smarter than everyone else, so everyone else must conform to their wishes.”
Soothsayer
March 7th, 2012
8:54 pm
Why, Bruno! Why would I want to bring you and Platinum Black down as you drive around in your black stretch Escalade?
JamVet
March 7th, 2012
8:54 pm
BOTH, I doubt anyone is really putting any money on Romney at this point. Right now the odds that I’ve seen on Vegas websites for him winning in November are generally somewhere between 4 – 1 and 10 – 1.
i.e., kind of a long shot…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWcQa9dqRZU
josef
March 7th, 2012
8:55 pm
Kayaker
Both the writer and the star of that show are practicing, believing Christians…
Bruno
March 7th, 2012
8:56 pm
Funny you should mention PB, Sooth. We’re going to watch a little more of the Music course from the Teaching Company in a few minutes. We’ve moved from the Baroque to the Classical period. From Bach to Beethoven and Mozart.
getalife
March 7th, 2012
8:56 pm
Psst, natural gas companies will probably be a good investment.
moonbat betty (Thug Life. Damn it feels good to be a gangsta)
March 7th, 2012
8:56 pm
Sooth – “Could you just expound a little on those “other technologies?”
I have already done so here several times my fine feathered friend.
Currently, under the Obama administration, I have received over $50,000,000 in grants to develop my MoonBat2000 self reliant power system. It can reduce power usage in the home by 50% plus burn millions off calories off all the fat asses:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asZ2RHPHT4c
In addition, we can start MoonbatBetty2000 farms where illegal aliens can work a couple of years creating power to gain citizenship.
This of course is a short term solution to a long term problem.
I would like to see the mixed use of solar, wind, thermal and enhanced battery power (somehow recharged by a water based hydrogen fueled alternator) utilized to ween us off the current sources.
But, obviously, the technology isn’t there YET.
They BOTH suck
March 7th, 2012
8:56 pm
Jam
I think Obama is going to win, but I doubt it will be the punch in the face that McCain/Palin took.
Just strange that two fairly known conservatives are already calling it for Obama
Bruno
March 7th, 2012
8:59 pm
Right now the odds that I’ve seen on Vegas websites for him winning in November are generally somewhere between 4 – 1 and 10 – 1.
i.e., kind of a long shot…
Yo, Philly here….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PtvLTZS4Ik
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 7th, 2012
8:59 pm
The directors of Clear Channel, which hosts Rush Limbaugh’s show, have been big donors to Mitt Romney’s campaigns, which might help explain why Romney has been so reluctant to criticize Rush.
Jm - ill mannered centrist
March 7th, 2012
9:01 pm
getalife
March 7th, 2012
8:56 pm
Psst, natural gas companies will probably be a good investment
————–
Because with all the farting coming out of obama’s mouth, there’s an unlimited supply, especially since getalife is certain O will be re-elected
godless heathen
March 7th, 2012
9:03 pm
Sooth,
113 years ago the largest environmental problem that the cities faced was what to do with the all the horse sh*t. They probably had people on blogs wringing their hands about how in the next 100 years they were all going to be buried in horse sh*t.
Sleep well assured that we have hydrocarbon fuels that will last for many, many years. At least 200 years, I’d say. According to my crystal ball, the problems facing the humans in 2213 will not be a shortage of energy. Chill, man. Don’t worry. It’s going to be alright. And you’ll be long gone anyway. Enjoy life. Go for a drive in the country.
Soothsayer
March 7th, 2012
9:03 pm
How much oil do we have left? According to the United States Geological Survey’s (USGS) latest report, published in 2000, the planet had 3 trillion barrels of oil and gas before we started using it up. It calculates we have used some 700 billion, leaving 2.3 trillion barrels underground.
A simple calculation using data from the Center for Global Energy Studies (CGES) shows that with 28.8 billion barrels currently being used a year (79 million a day) [this is now 89 million barrels a day], there is some 80 years of supply left in the ground.
However, the 2.3 billion barrels left includes 1.4 billion which, according to USGS analysis of global geology, exist but have yet to be discovered. That leaves roughly 890 billion barrels of oil and gas that have been discovered and are booked as proven reserves — roughly 31 years’ supply.
I would characterize this as exceedingly optimistic. Shocked? Amazed? Long before this happens, the price will be out of the reach of all but the richest people because of hoarding, etc. Go fill up that SUV and Monster Pick ‘em Truck!
JamVet
March 7th, 2012
9:04 pm
BOTH, Obama’s record will hurt him.
But in my useless opinion Romney is a weaker candidate that John McCain.
Like they say in sports, that’s why they play them.
B, a great movie back when they made great movies.
Out of a ton of them, the greatest single Canadian artist ever…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S1_5S_jF3E
Bruno
March 7th, 2012
9:07 pm
Catch you guys in a while.
JamVet
March 7th, 2012
9:07 pm
Sooth, so Mitt sells his soul to kiss Rush’s ring.
As if the independents and centrists and moderates aren’t gonna notice???
Too bad for him that his 1% buddies can’t elect him by themselves.
What an astounding fool…
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
March 7th, 2012
9:09 pm
Well, I see this blog is meandering all over the place again. It goes from state ethics reform to gas prices to war with Iran to Romney vs. Obama to energy sources, etc. I’m sure glad I don’t hang around with most of you. It would take hours to get away from you and get something done. You make a backyard gossip look like Calvin Coolidge. Bookman sure ain’t lying when he says this is a blog with a little bit of opinion about a whole lot of things.
Have a good night everybody.
godless heathen
March 7th, 2012
9:11 pm
But Sooth, you are ignoring electric cars, powered by nuclear fuels converted to electricity and stored in batteries that haven’t been invented yet.
Hop in that convertible, roll up a fatty and enjoy the world out there. Life is good.
Josef
March 7th, 2012
9:11 pm
Taxi
GCB isn’t a reality show, but a sit com set in a small Southern town. The writer creator is the guy who wrote “Steel Magnolias”. I’m looking forward to it…
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 7th, 2012
9:11 pm
Am, Mitt’s problems are just continuing to pile up. But he dances like a puppet on a string.
bman
March 7th, 2012
9:12 pm
Redneck .. .. don’t leave. The OWS vs Tea Partier punch is on deck
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
March 7th, 2012
9:14 pm
Seems someone missed the big GCB last week.. I am sure they encourage Christians everywhere to protest and boycott……. they probably could use the ratings spike!
They BOTH suck
March 7th, 2012
9:14 pm
Jam
One more for you…….. Not in the ranks with Rush or Neil Young, but another good band from our neighbors to the north
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn_yRlYVnUw
Jm - ill mannered centrist
March 7th, 2012
9:16 pm
Godless heathen
Soothsayer
March 7th, 2012
9:18 pm
“But Sooth, you are ignoring electric cars, powered by nuclear fuels converted to electricity and stored in batteries that haven’t been invented yet.
Hop in that convertible, roll up a fatty and enjoy the world out there. Life is good.”
Oh! Ha! Ha! Ha! If you can’t make it as a blogger, you can always go into comedy. That’s real funny but what will you be driving?
Thulsa Doom
March 7th, 2012
9:20 pm
Somebody roll Sooth a blunt.
JamVet
March 7th, 2012
9:20 pm
Yeah, BOTH, they are damn fine. In the pantheon of rock and rollers, they kind of flew below my radar. But I’ve gone back and checked them out a lot, and am struck by the similarities between them and Rush. Which is a helluva great comparison!
The first Canadian band that I remember really loving…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJbFVJvRqOQ
Soothsayer
March 7th, 2012
9:21 pm
So far, no one has answered my question posed @ 8:33. I’m still waiting.
Josef
March 7th, 2012
9:22 pm
Bman
He hasn’t
Soothsayer
March 7th, 2012
9:23 pm
Well, of course, let’s turn this into an ad hominem attack. After all, that’s what we do when confronted with data that we can’t refute. It’s really pathetic and a public showing of defeat.
Longtime posters will remember that I don’t use any drugs except the occasional drink.
moonbat betty (Thug Life. Damn it feels good to be a gangsta)
March 7th, 2012
9:25 pm
Sooth, chill out man.
Are you self sufficient?
Did you build your own home out of local resources, grow your own food, knit your own clothing?
You should be more worried how your personal goods are getting to you than some soccer mom or high school kid who probably drives less than 20 miles a day…
moonbat betty (Thug Life. Damn it feels good to be a gangsta)
March 7th, 2012
9:27 pm
Sooth- “So far, no one has answered my question posed @ 8:33. I’m still waiting.”
@8:56
godless heathen
March 7th, 2012
9:28 pm
This election is Obama’s to lose, for sure and he might, but I wouldn’t bet against it, and that is reflected in the odds you can get in Vegas. The best thing that could happen to us that oppose big government is for inSantorum to win the nomination. He will get creamed in the general election. Alternatively, Romney gets the nod and makes it a close race, but still loses the general. And as a result, the “true conservatives” (code for racist, homophobe Christian nutjobs) whine that the Republicans would win if only a “true conservative” would win the nomination. And so in 2016 we have another Santorum idiot thinking he can win the general election and making all Republicans looking like idiots again.
I hate to agree with many of the lefties here, that my party is in trouble, but I must. The best I think I can hope for before I die is that the thumpers will cast into the wilderness and a libertarian type party will emerge as a legitimate challenge to the scourge of creeping big government socialism.
Thulsa Doom
March 7th, 2012
9:30 pm
Sooth,
I’m just messin with ya but seriously man. Chill and relax. We’re the Saudi Arabia of natural gas and coal and if we run out of oil then our natural gas supply will last a few hundred years. Plus there is something wrong with your stats. There’s oil in the tar sands, oil as yet undiscovered throughout the oceans, etc. I’ve never seen anyone estimating that we only have a 30 year supply of oil left. No one. Most of what I’ve seen is that the world has at least 200 years of oil left and probably much longer.
Jm - ill mannered centrist
March 7th, 2012
9:31 pm
Jay for the record sorry you fought the good fight on this and lost
Maybe next time and maybe with more voter education
GA needs a better governor
Sam Olens hopefully one day
moonbat betty (Thug Life. Damn it feels good to be a gangsta)
March 7th, 2012
9:32 pm
I agree, godless heathen.
the seats in congress will be a bigger factor this time.
Even If obama wins, it will sink the dems for some time as the pendulum swings back to the right again…
Jm - ill mannered centrist
March 7th, 2012
9:35 pm
Godless
The Republicans need a solid libertarian candidate at the top
A strong libertarian party just means the democrats win every election
Romney, in a weird way, is a “centrist libertarian”
Socially moderate to conservative. Fiscally conservative.
He’s just not the barn burner many want for justifiable reason.
Jm - ill mannered centrist
March 7th, 2012
9:37 pm
Adios
bman
March 7th, 2012
9:40 pm
oh great! so the top 1% will be riding comfortably in their horse and buggy while the rest of us have to use those butt-hurting saddles?
saddle up partner!
Thulsa Doom
March 7th, 2012
9:42 pm
Godless Heathen,
I wouldn’t sweat it. Typically the challenger trails the incumbent at this stage. Bush 1 had something like a 91% approval rating going into his last year and still lost. All Romney has to do at every turn is one thing- point out Obama’s horrific economy and the fact that this is the worst economic recovery since the Great Depression.
But in 2016 and beyond the Rs are in trouble and here’s why. The country is at a tipping point where there are simply too many single issue voters that the Ds cater too and too many people drawing from the well and not enough people paying in.
De Tocqueville was right. He said we would fail after a couple hundred years because eventually the public would vote itself goodies and spend the treasury into bankruptcy. And that is exactly what is happening now. Too many people on the dole, not enough paying in, and then the inevitable collapse.
The problem with the welfare state or socialism? As Thatcher put it “sooner or later you run out of other people’s money”.
moonbat betty (Thug Life. Damn it feels good to be a gangsta)
March 7th, 2012
9:42 pm
No, bman.
The rest of us are going to resort to kite surfing!
JKL2
March 7th, 2012
10:03 pm
Thulsa- De Tocqueville was right
There’s a name you don’t hear everyday. Did you see “Born Yesterday” on encore or something?
We know it was a stretch trying to make Melanie Griffith into an intellectual, but it really was a mediocre movie at best.
JKL2
March 7th, 2012
10:06 pm
bman- the rest of us have to use those butt-hurting saddles
Try a different one or adjust your seatpost. Nobody ever has to ride in pain.
getalife
March 7th, 2012
10:19 pm
The best thing you cons can do is stay home.
And treat our President with respect the next four years.
godless heathen
March 7th, 2012
10:22 pm
Thulsa: “The problem with the welfare state or socialism? As Thatcher put it “sooner or later you run out of other people’s money”.”
Exactly. The populace is also becoming more and more enlightened and they will forevermore reject the likes of Santorum. I’m an atheist that recognizes the folly of liberalism and the idiocy of the Christian Right. So far I have stuck with the Republicans as being less dangerous than the Democrats, but if I go to the polls in November and my choices are Obama and Santorum, I’m pulling the D lever.
JKL2
March 7th, 2012
10:27 pm
getalife- And treat our President with respect the next four years
Like you guys did with President Bush?
Doggone/Ga
March 7th, 2012
10:28 pm
“sooner or later you run out of other people’s money”.”
Only in a society where the money supply is finite. In a vibrant, growing economy the money supply increases in proportion to the size of the economy. The more people you have working good jobs, for good pay, the bigger the economy and the more that economy can abosorb the neccessary expense of those – relatively – few who need help.
moonbat betty (Thug Life. Damn it feels good to be a Kennedy)
March 7th, 2012
10:39 pm
Hell ya, Doggone/Ga.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfGpVcdqeS0
JKL2
March 7th, 2012
10:42 pm
doggone- those – relatively – few who need help
Never heard a majority called a “few” before. obama is working fevorishly to turn the dollar into a peso for you. Their will be plenty for everyone. Who cares if it take a wheelbarrow full to buy a loaf of bread.
Doggone/Ga
March 7th, 2012
10:46 pm
“Never heard a majority called a “few” before”
majority? Majority of what?
JKL2
March 7th, 2012
10:49 pm
doggone- Majority of what?
Your Demwit party/rule by none/handout society our president is pandering to, to get re-elected.
Doggone/Ga
March 7th, 2012
10:52 pm
“Your Demwit party/rule by none/handout society our president is pandering to, to get re-elected”
Well, it’s easy to see that you are NOT interested in a discussion. So much for THAT attempt. I *knew* there was a good reason you were on my ignore list.
JKL2
March 7th, 2012
11:09 pm
-doggone
Socialism has a great history. It has failed everytime it’s tried. The problem with utopia is someone still has to clean the toilet. But I’m sure it will work now because our president is black. Why make some people happy when you can make everyone equally miserable. I keep hearing about a “new world order”. Problem is we’re at the top of the food chain so the only way we’ve got to go is down.
moonbat betty (Thug Life. Damn it feels good to be a Kennedy)
March 7th, 2012
11:19 pm
perhaps the greatest short story of all time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QwSr0PmY10
getalife
March 7th, 2012
11:20 pm
Socialism saved capitalism.
Lets stop with the socialism bs jk.
moonbat betty (Thug Life. Damn it feels good to be a Kennedy)
March 7th, 2012
11:21 pm
Pop goes the weasel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqGXM23WUbs
JKL2
March 7th, 2012
11:32 pm
getalife- Socialism saved capitalism
WTF? The only thing socialism does is destroy people’s will to excel. The parasite dies once the host can no longer support it. obama is betting his re-election on increasing the feeding tube. I’m sure it will work out well.
moonbat betty (Thug Life. Damn it feels good to be a Kennedy)
March 7th, 2012
11:46 pm
JKL2, if we ALL made 1.25/hour we could share the wealth and compete with the rest of the world.
moonbat betty (Thug Life. Damn it feels good to be a Kennedy)
March 7th, 2012
11:48 pm
“Give me beer or give me death”
~Samuel L Jackson