Limbaugh’s vile attack on a student who dared to speak up
Wow. This is true slime.
Some of you may recall Sandra Fluke, a student at Georgetown University and former head of Georgetown Law Students for Reproductive Justice, who was barred by House Republicans from offering a woman’s perspective at a male-dominated hearing on the Obama administration’s contraception rule.
Later, House Democrats set up their own hearing in which Fluke was the star witness. Her full prepared testimony can be found here, but as the AP reported it:
“Fluke, a third-year law student, said that Georgetown Law, a Jesuit institution, does not provide contraception coverage in its student health plan and that contraception can cost a woman more than $3,000 during law school. She spoke of a friend who had an ovary removed because the insurance company wouldn’t cover the prescription birth control she needed to stop the growth of cysts.”
Think what you will of the issue or of Fluke’s testimony. Nothing the young woman said or did earned her this, from Rush Limbaugh:
“What does it say about the college coed Susan [sic] Fluke, who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex? What does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. She wants to be paid to have sex.
“She’s having so much sex she can’t afford the contraception. She wants you and me and the taxpayers to pay her to have sex. What does that make us? We’re the pimps.
“The johns, that’s right. We would be the johns — no! We’re not the johns. Well — yeah, that’s right. Pimp’s not the right word.
“OK, so, she’s not a slut. She’s round-heeled. I take it back.”
I’ve shied away from accusations that this issue is being driven on the right by misogyny, because in many cases it’s not. But clearly, in many other cases that’s exactly what’s driving it. Limbaugh’s attack is a vicious attempt to frighten and intimidate women into going silent on the issue, and the message is intended not merely for Fluke but for women in general. Limbaugh is a frightened little bully attempting to keep women in their place, and in that regard is no different than the mullahs of Afghanistan who condemn non-virgin women to a stoning.
It is a despicable, and it tells you a lot about the current state of affairs in our nation that someone with a podium as grand and lucrative as Limbaugh’s can spout such bile about a young woman whom he has never met, and do so without consequence.
– Jay Bookman
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They BOTH suck
March 1st, 2012
12:23 pm
That Blk Guy
Think of Adam as the lefty TD……..
No offense TD, however I needed a valid but quick equivalent and you came to mind…….
You guys have a great afternoon
USinUK
March 1st, 2012
12:24 pm
“I guess Ms. Fluke missed the clue word JESUIT while applying to Georgetown University Law School”
and I guess YOU missed the part where they seem to have no problem with their STAFF having access to birth control on THEIR insurance policy … just the students.
I don’t think the Catholic Church has a position on staff vs. students …
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
12:24 pm
Thulsa – She isn’t asking for others to pay for it. She is saying that she doesn’t think it is right that she has no say in whether the insurance she is paying for covers it or not. How many graduate/law students do you know? Most of them, pay for everything themselves, and student loans barely cover books and tuition. No one, including her, is saying that the taxpayers should be on the hook for her birth control. Unless she said it somewhere else, she was just testifying to the fact that her insurance doesn’t cover it, and it is expensive and burdensome to those on a fixed income.
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
12:26 pm
USinUK – I’m thinking that Georgetown is just hiding behind the fact that they’re Jesuit so they don’t have to cover it. Also, it would be easy to see how she could miss that they’re Jesuit, since they don’t mention that fact on their admissions page.
Generation$crewed
March 1st, 2012
12:27 pm
Are condoms or vasectomies going to be free now as well, under the president’s plan?
If so why not?
Have looked online for more info but most I keep getting is unclear or claims it will not.
Thulsa Doom
March 1st, 2012
12:29 pm
“Subsequent posts by USinUK and others explained that when office charges and exam charges are included the costs can ratched right up”
Paul,
Insurance covers routine doc visits and labs. And if you need insurance get a plan with a very high deductible for major hospitalizations that includes doc visits. It still doesn’t answer my basic question- Why should I be expected to pay for the woman’s birth control? This is a woman who of course can afford a tuition at an expensive school like Georgetown of course.
I just want someone to explain why I should be subsidizing Georgetown law students and why they should be relieved of the responsibility of paying for it themselves. That’s all I want.
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
12:29 pm
I’m heading to lunch. Y’all have fun arguing the same thing over and over again. G$ and Thulsa, if you feel shorted because you came to the conversation late, just read the first 12-13 pages. All of your arguments were most likely made and argued there.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
12:29 pm
USinUK and (ir)Rational
Yes, I understand that she is not looking for someone else to pay, but why is she trying to FORCE Georgetown University to change the policy? This will effect the cost for the other students at the University, and I am sure that there are quite a few parents of students there that do not want their costs to go up because this 1 person doesn’t think it is ‘fair’.
Joe Hussein Mama
March 1st, 2012
12:29 pm
P. Independent — “Joe – are you a fan of Guadalcanal Diary? I went to high school with some of the member’s. They have a few clips on Youtube if you are interested.”
I think they richly deserved success in their time and sadly didn’t achieve it. They were a fantastic band, and I’m sorry I never got to see them play live back in the day. AFAIK, they only ever had a couple of cuts on MTV, back when MTV used to actually play music.
My wife and I have most of their oeuvre on vinyl and on CD.
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
12:30 pm
Thulsa – In regards to your last post. See my last one directed at you. SHE ISN’T ASKING FOR THE TAXPAYERS TO FUND HER HEALTH INSURANCE. SHE IS SIMPLY STATING THAT HER INSURANCE DOESN’T COVER IT AND SHOULD.
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
12:32 pm
timbo – Chances are, if you polled, you would be hard pressed to find more than 1 student at Georgetown that felt the current policy was fair. Now to lunch for real.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
12:33 pm
@(ir)Rational
Then why doesn’t she buy insurance that does cover it?
Paul
March 1st, 2012
12:36 pm
Thulsa
The $$$ amounts are side issues. It was noted midway thru the thread the students have the same policy as the faculty and staff at Georgetown – except students don’t get birth control, but faculty and staff do.
That rather cuts the legs off the argument it’s a matter of religious principle.
Becky
March 1st, 2012
12:37 pm
timbo-are you really this stupid or is it an act?
timbo
March 1st, 2012
12:37 pm
Sorry, but offering insurance to 17-22 year old students that cover birth control costs is a disaster just waiting to happen. Teen pregnancy and out-of-wedlock children are already out of control, and this act would do nothing to curb that trend. This is not a Republican thing or a Democrat thing, it is a moral and common sense thing.
Paul
March 1st, 2012
12:37 pm
Thulsa
“Just want someone to explain why I should be subsidizing Georgetown law students and why they should be relieved of the responsibility of paying for it themselves. That’s all I want..”
You’re subsidizing student insurance policies at a private university?!!?
Do you pay for their housing, books and tuition too?
SHEETS!
timbo
March 1st, 2012
12:38 pm
@Becky
What is so stupid about what I posted?
Thulsa Doom
March 1st, 2012
12:39 pm
“She is saying that she doesn’t think it is right that she has no say in whether the insurance she is paying for covers it or not.”
Sounds like she is part of the rights revolution where everyone thinks they are entitled to something- paid for by others of course. If she is asking for all insurance to mandatorily cover birth control then what she is really asking for is for the cost to be subsidized by others who don’t need or want birth control in their policies. She’s basically just whining to get her birth control subsidized by others. A benefit grab if you will.
“How many graduate/law students do you know? Most of them, pay for everything themselves, and student loans barely cover books and tuition. No one, including her, is saying that the taxpayers should be on the hook for her birth control.”
Sorry but it took me 5 1/2 years to graduate. Why? Because I had to work 3 jobs(morning job, waited tables on the weekend, had drill once a month) and I took a limited course load sometimes as a result of my workload. You’re going to have a hard time convincing someone who had to work his way through college to have pity on someone not willing to do the same. And I did that without taking out any student loans. All I hear from this entitlement pig is gimme me gimme.
“Unless she said it somewhere else, she was just testifying to the fact that her insurance doesn’t cover it, and it is expensive and burdensome to those on a fixed income.”
Boo freaking hoo! Not my problem.
Becky
March 1st, 2012
12:43 pm
Teen pregnancy and out-of-wedlock children are already out of control, and this act would do nothing to curb that trend.
timbo-you do understand that birth control prevents pregnancy and out of wedlock children?
Wes
March 1st, 2012
12:43 pm
Hey considering tuition to Georgetown Law School is $40K plus… who’s paying that? She is the perfect example of the greed of demanding for youself the hard-earned resources of others.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
12:47 pm
@Becky
How many women do you know that got pregnant while on birth control? I know of 3 students at my son’s HIGH SCHOOL that are pregnant right now, and 2 of them were on birth control.
All I am saying is why does she feel it necessary to have the University change its policy when she can just get her own policy that does cover birth control.
Just because you do not share the same view point as I do does not mean my comments are stupid.
William Kerr
March 1st, 2012
12:50 pm
In order to have sex, the students feel they need contraceptives. Oral contraceptives are a few hundred dollars, condoms a few dollars each. For $3000 you get a LOT of contraceptive. If the students don’t have sex, they don’t need the contraceptives (except in rare instances). The students want taxpayers to pay for that. Therefore, we are paying for them to have sex. Limbaugh seems to have nailed it!
sircharles19
March 1st, 2012
12:51 pm
We have enough things to worry about, all women if they prefer can get free contraceptive just like men can always protect themselves and whom they select to be with. I don’t think this lady want to be a student but want to be a politician doing what the rest of the politicians do…nothing but create and stir up trouble!
Jon
March 1st, 2012
12:51 pm
If this girl is spending $3000 during her time in law school then she is CLEARLY a slut. How much sex is this girl having? Does she even have time to go to class? So much that she wants us to pay for it? If she isn’t a slut (and a leech) then what would YOU call her? Its sad that there are so many closed-minded worthless lowlife liberals out there agree with Bookman and are using this as another opportunity to take a swipe at Limbaugh, but unfortunately you guys are a big part of the problem.
Amy in the ATL
March 1st, 2012
12:53 pm
Wow…lots of hate on this one, and that’s not even confined to just Limbaugh’s atrocious commentary. Personally, I think any men who are opposed to insurance coverage for women’s contraception and complain about out-of-wedlock children on welfare should vow never to sleep with any females outside of marriage, just to remain true to their beliefs and do right by society. After all, it would be selfish for taxpayers to have to subsidize your poor decision making and lustful ways.
zillas
March 1st, 2012
12:53 pm
Why is free always a an angle?
No matter what your stance in politics, you should take responsibility for yourself in every way!!
YOUR party SUCKS! But MINE is GRRRRRREAT! (formerly That Black Guy)
March 1st, 2012
12:56 pm
USinUK
March 1st, 2012
10:01 am
Mick – 9:58 – oh, I’m all about the Grim Reaper trifecta … but Andrew Breitbart is NOT the third (particularly given that most people outside of this blog couldn’t pick him out of a crowd of one)
Since he was constantly mobbed by some on the left when he was out in public, I would say your statement is less than accurate.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
12:58 pm
I am wayyyy past the abstinence thing, that concept has escaped most liberals minds, and besides, it does not fit into their ‘whatever feels good’ mentality.
A law student at one of the most prestigious law schools in the country has decided to get her 15 minutes of fame by suggesting that Georgetown University change their insurance policy because birth control costs 3k a year, and she doesn’t think it is fair that the ADULTS who teach at this University should be offered a policy that is different from the students.
Not so much
March 1st, 2012
1:00 pm
You’re a tool. Heard of personal responsibility? I suppose we should pay to raise the kids too if she chooses not to make me pay for her abortion. Perhaps she should “dare” to say “not tonight”.
It’s true. Liberalism IS a mental disorder.
Carole
March 1st, 2012
1:02 pm
Becky
Teen pregnancy and out-of-wedlock children are already out of control, and this act would do nothing to curb that trend.
timbo-you do understand that birth control prevents pregnancy and out of wedlock children?
+++++++++
You took the words right out of my mouth. I can’t believe there are so many posts on this subject and that so many of them are absolutely clueless. It only goes to show exactly why Rush Limpball didn’t have a problem saying what he did. I mean thank God some of the men on here get it, but obviously the majority don’t. Which is part of the reason it’s so friggin’ scary that you make most of the rules concerning women’s lifes.
Carole
March 1st, 2012
1:07 pm
The cost of $3,000 is probably due to the fact that the pill usually cost $30/mth. That’s right $1 a day! Multiply that by the number of years she’s in school. But add up the cost of her having a child and taking care of it for at least 18 years? Or the cost of surgery to stop some of the medical issues that are addressed by using the pill. I know of one that was going to cost $4,000 and I had to pay 1/2 of that after insurance paid their part.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
1:07 pm
@Amy in the ATL
I am not opposed to insurance coverage for birth control for a women. Are there policies that cover birth control for women? Yes. Then this little angel needs to go out and buy it, because obviously the 3k she is spending is putting a cramp into her budget.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
1:09 pm
@Carole
Answer me this then since so many liberals have avoided this question. Why can’t she go out and purchase her own insurance policy that covers birth control?
timbo
March 1st, 2012
1:10 pm
My boss drives a really nice car, but that doesn’t mean I am entitled to it. If I want it, I have to buy it, plain and simple.
Carole
March 1st, 2012
1:11 pm
timbo
I am not opposed to insurance coverage for birth control for a women. Are there policies that cover birth control for women? Yes. Then this little angel needs to go out and buy it, because obviously the 3k she is spending is putting a cramp into her budget.
+++++++
If the 3K is putting a cramp in her budget then how in the heck is she supposed to be able to afford another insurance premium that probably cost more just to cover the pill? Have you ever tried to get individual insurance outside of a group plan? The cost is astronomical.
A strong woman
March 1st, 2012
1:19 pm
Seriously? How can people say that the cost of contraceptives has any bearing on how much someone is having sex? We’re talking about the pill, the ring, or whatever method girls are using. These methods are just expensive…and you men who take offense to that should keep in mind that a woman who uses birth control keeps you out of hot water when that condom breaks. Don’t act all high and mighty and try to state that only the women are out there having sex. Btw, planned parenthood also provides wellness services and contraceptives for men as well…so why the attack on women??? You boys aren’t being left out! Birth control is not just to prevent pregnancy either. It can help prevent medical issues in many women. Btw, the cost of birth control is often times solely the responsibility of the woman…maybe men should chip in more if they don’t want to become daddies at a young age. Or, we can discontinue planned parenthood funding and instead pay welfare for a mother and child for their entire lives because Daddy is too irresponsible to pay for the mistake he made and as a result the mom had to drop out of college to take care of her little one. I know this is not always the case, but many times it is.
Alvise
March 1st, 2012
1:20 pm
What is vile is a 3rd year law student ON SCHOLARSHIP expecting the American taxpayer to pay for your desire and choice to have sex. I went to college…I paid my own way…I paid for my own birth control.
It’s pathetic that a young woman who is having her college tuition paid for via scholarship is so greedy that she gets put up by Pelosi to complain about it. As a 3rd year law student, I would think she would be too busy to worry about having (so much) sex as she studies at Georgetown. Under Obamacare, she is still a “child” and covered under her parent’s health care plan…why doesn’t her parent’s plan cover her birth control.
Rush said nothing inappropriate. When will the leftists stop lining up for handout after handout? Should we buy her a car to get to class because she can’t afford a car and doesn’t want to take the bus?
catlady
March 1st, 2012
1:21 pm
If no contraception, then no coverage for smoking, either. Or diabetes. Or any other drugs that support your choices to do wrong, right?
Here we go!
March 1st, 2012
1:23 pm
All colleges offer insurance to students. Some of the mandatory student fees include health insurance. It depends on how the college structures the student fees. But that is another point. It isn’t what she said or didn’t say, it is that Rush Limbaugh called someone a slut because he disagrees with her position, and the right wingers think that is OK. For all of you who feel like you’re paying for it, how? These are fees charged to the students, they are paying for it.
ken
March 1st, 2012
1:27 pm
Condom $1 at Wally World, 75 cents in the restrooms. There’s bigger fish to fry.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
1:30 pm
@Carole
“If the 3K is putting a cramp in her budget then how in the heck is she supposed to be able to afford another insurance premium that probably cost more just to cover the pill? Have you ever tried to get individual insurance outside of a group plan? The cost is astronomical.”
I could go with maybe restraining from the activities that cause her to purchase birth control, but that is way too easy. I could also go with if she is studying law at Georgetown, I doubt very seriously she has a problem with her budget. But that too is way too easy.
Yes, I have had to pay for my own insurance when I was a contractor. It was expensive, but my wife and I made changes to our lifestyle so we could afford that insurance. The cost of a Ferrari is also astronomical, but I don’t think the Ferrari dealership is going to change its payment policy just so I could have one. She is doing nothing but grandstanding, and trying to get her 15 minutes of fame. Someone needs to tell her to buy her own insurance if you want birth control coverage, the University doesn’t offer it to students. Sorry, sometimes in life you have to make difficult decisions, but forcing the University to raise its insurance rates on EVERY OTHER STUDENT just so she can be covered just isn’t right.
I am sure you will disagree, but that is MY opinion, and I understand yours.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
March 1st, 2012
1:35 pm
I am wayyyy past the abstinence thing, that concept has escaped most liberals minds…
Doctors have a very technical name for couples that practice abstinence as a form of birth control, doctors call them, “parents.”
kimmer
March 1st, 2012
1:35 pm
Jay, get off the poor lil ol’ college-student kick will you? You are trying to paint a picture of a naive, teen-aged, freshman co-ed when the woman is a 3rd year law student. Most of her contemporaries have completed a bachelors degree and are three years into their careers. A good many are married with children. Those who chose not to go to college would have been out working for 6-7 years.
A 3rd year law student is far, far, from the image you are portraying and does not exacerbate what limbaugh did.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
1:38 pm
@Kamchak
Doctors have a very technical name for couples that practice abstinence as a form of birth control, doctors call them, “parents.”
That was a good one.
Carole
March 1st, 2012
1:39 pm
Timbo
I could go with maybe restraining from the activities that cause her to purchase birth control, but that is way too easy. I could also go with if she is studying law at Georgetown, I doubt very seriously she has a problem with her budget. But that too is way too easy.
++++++
I’ve said this before I’ll say it again a little louder–EVERYONE DOESN’T TAKE BIRTH CONTROL PILLS AS A FORM OF CONTRACEPTION.
There are MANY medical reasons why women take the pill. I’d prefer not to get graphic on this board since most men stick their fingers in their ears and start the la la la song when you speak of these things. Guys don’t even like to go buy “napkins” at the store so I wouldn’t expect them to fully comprehend the sheer pain and agony some women go through every month. And I”m not just talking about a little PMS. Men also don’t know the cost associated with this problem in the purchase of products. What this woman is asking for goes way beyond just allowing her to have some fun now and then.
Nope
March 1st, 2012
1:40 pm
Conservatives will destroy this nation.
Carole
March 1st, 2012
1:43 pm
Nope
Conservatives will destroy this nation.
++++++++
And will do it with a smile on their face, waving their Bibles in the air in belief that they are doing the right thing.
Here we go!
March 1st, 2012
1:45 pm
Conservatives are already destroying this nation. Take a look back at what Bush did.
ljfd
March 1st, 2012
1:50 pm
“OK, so, she’s not a slut. She’s round-heeled. I take it back.”
see jay, he took it back right after he said it. no harm done.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
1:55 pm
@Carole
I’ve said this before I’ll say it again a little louder–EVERYONE DOESN’T TAKE BIRTH CONTROL PILLS AS A FORM OF CONTRACEPTION.
My wife had to have some cysts removed some years ago, so believe me, I understand what you are saying. That is why I said that is ‘way too easy’. She was on the pill for the first 15 years of our marriage, but our insurance policy covered the costs.
I am going to say again, I am not opposed to having birth control covered on insurance, that is NOT my point. My point is that she wants to change a policy. That is what is wrong. This will undoubtedly change the premiums that others are paying. Now, if the school were to offer a choice of carriers that a student can select, that is different, but from what I have read and heard, that is not her goal. Lets say insurance company A has a policy that covers birth control, students who want that can select it. Insurance company B does not cover it, so the student can select it. To me, that would be a fair policy and one that everyone could agree to…I would think.
And yes, I listen to Rush. Do I agree with him 100% of the time…absolutely not. I think he was WAY out of line by attacking this person.
Ron
March 1st, 2012
1:56 pm
She put herself out there. She got what she deserved. How can she (or anyone with half a brain) expect the taxpayers to pay for her extra curricular activities? The whole arguement is utterly moronic. She is a moron. And anyone that thinks that I (or my fellow taxpayers) should pay for their nightime escapades is a moron. Jeez people, we have MUCH bigger issues to deal with.
missionaccomplished
March 1st, 2012
1:59 pm
Isn’t it time for Rushbo to get all hopped up on oxy and viagra and go do some pool boys in Aruba?
Tom Lawrence
March 1st, 2012
1:59 pm
I agree with Limbaugh…not Bookman. As a taxpayer, I don’t want my taxes spent to foster a second radical sexual revolution. We should all be wary of law school students who have no morals. What kind of advocates for justice are we rearing? Their parents should be held responsible for this irresponsible behavior.
Jay
March 1st, 2012
2:06 pm
To the dittoheads:
No tax money is involved. Georgetown is a private institution; the money used to buy student health insurance is private money.
Let me repeat: No tax money is involved.
Carole
March 1st, 2012
2:10 pm
timbo
but from what I have read and heard, that is not her goal. Lets say insurance company A has a policy that covers birth control, students who want that can select it. Insurance company B does not cover it, so the student can select it. To me, that would be a fair policy and one that everyone could agree to…I would think.
+++++
After reading this full post I guess you and I are on the same page–I think. It appears that you do understand about the medical use of pills and not just the birth control side.
Since the student had originally been scheduled to speak before the committee discussing the religious rights of a institution I believe that was her angle. She was asked by some legislators to speak and then denied that opportunity by the committee. So I’m not sure if she changed her message when she finally got to speak. The main issue with the whole contraception argument was that certain institutions would deem certain things “against their belief” and deny that medical service to their employees.
My biggest concern about this whole thing is Rush Limbaugh’s response to it. We can talk about whether or not what she asked for is right or wrong. But what was definitely wrong was what (can’t keep a wife, doctor shopping, pill popping Rush said. It amazes me that a person who holds himself up as one who speaks truth would demean a young lady by calling her a slut and prostitute. And he didn’t seem to have any afterthought about it at all.
Here we go!
March 1st, 2012
2:10 pm
Jay – they cannot understand what you are saying about private money. I think it is a Mars/Venus thing. You say contraceptive, they hear taxes. You say abortion, they hear taxes. you say war, they say – how fast can we go!
timbo
March 1st, 2012
2:24 pm
Carole,
I do listen to Rush, and I do agree with him on a lot of what he says. But, when his attacks turn personal, that is when I change the station. I do not support what he said, I think it was a horrible choice of words to use. I am not condoning what was said, but Rush has been attacked for 20+ years by the left himself.
Tom(Independent-Viet Vet)
March 1st, 2012
2:25 pm
Don’t feel sorry for Miss Fluke folks. After graduation from Georgetown, it’s off to the ACLU to gain work experience, and then some liberal Community Organizer President will offer her a seat on the Supreme Court! That’s the way it works in this country now!
timbo
March 1st, 2012
2:27 pm
Since I didn’t hear the show yesterday, or whenever Rush said what he did, I thought I would look it up. I found the source where all this started.
Craig Bannister at Cybercast News Service: “A Georgetown co-ed told Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s hearing that the women in her law school program are having so much sex that they’re going broke, so you and I should pay for their birth control. Speaking at a hearing held by Pelosi to tout Pres. Obama’s mandate that virtually every health insurance plan cover the full cost of contraception and abortion-inducing products, Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke said that it’s too expensive to have sex in law school without mandated insurance coverage. Apparently, four out of every ten co-eds are having so much sex that it’s hard to make ends meet if they have to pay for their own contraception, Fluke’s research shows.”
So, maybe Rush’s choice of words was a little harsh, but I do see where he is coming from if this article is indeed the truth.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
2:33 pm
Jay,
“Apparently, four out of every ten co-eds are having so much sex that it’s hard to make ends meet if they have to pay for their own contraception, Fluke’s research shows.”
If this is true, and I have no way of knowing whether it is or not, who is it that will pay for their contraceptives if it is not the tax payers?
Bill
March 1st, 2012
2:38 pm
If she wants to advertise that she is a nympho then she is fair game. Maybe she should date men able to take care of her birth control needs. Just another member of the “I’m not responsible for myself and need government help.”
Here we go!
March 1st, 2012
2:40 pm
Stop this madness! Why should it matter to you if I am having sex with my husband twice a night, twice a week or once a month. It’s none of your business. Why should it matter to you if the same ins. company I have, pays for contraceptives for all the men, but not for woman. If I am paying for it, do I not have a right to the same insurance that my company is providing to the men? This is the issue – not how much sex anyone is having. Why does the right always have to get in other peoples business? She is paying for her insurance, not YOU!
Darwin
March 1st, 2012
2:40 pm
Hooray for Salem Witch Trials!
timbo
March 1st, 2012
2:41 pm
Well, that kind of shoots that whole ‘health issues’ argument right out the window. Not denying that contraceptives are used for health issues, but it sounds to me like this Sandra Fluke does not intend to use it for that purpose.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
2:44 pm
@Here we go
Ummmmm……you might want to chill for a second and read this again
Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke said that it’s too expensive to have sex in law school without mandated insurance coverage. Apparently, four out of every ten co-eds are having so much sex that it’s hard to make ends meet if they have to pay for their own contraception, Fluke’s research shows.”
I don’t care how much sex they are having until I have to PAY for the amount of sex they are having.
BRW
March 1st, 2012
2:46 pm
Too bad Rush’s parents didn’t use more contraception. Totally worthless waste of a zygote.
Haitiana4Obama
March 1st, 2012
2:50 pm
This is OUTRAGEOUS and I demand that Mitt Romney primarily come out and denounce Limbaugh, in fact anyone with a daughter, wife, or mother should come out and disavow the hateful incendiary rantings of this creature.
GeeMac
March 1st, 2012
2:52 pm
@Timbo…Seruiously?! Here is her actual testimony.
http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/Testimony%20-%20Sandra%20Fluke.pdf
At absolutely no point, does she say that “it’s too expensive to have sex.” And the claim that she said “Apparently, four out of every ten co-eds are having so much sex that it’s hard to make ends meet if they have to pay for their own contraception,” is beyond absurd.
Jay, hope you are passing out free barf bags, because I feel seriously nauseated!
Here we go!
March 1st, 2012
2:54 pm
timbo – once more – if you aren’t paying for my insurance, and I’m pretty sure your not, you aren’t paying for hers.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
2:55 pm
Sounds like GeeMac didn’t read my post from earlier. Here it is again in its entirety;
timbo
March 1st, 2012
2:27 pm
Since I didn’t hear the show yesterday, or whenever Rush said what he did, I thought I would look it up. I found the source where all this started.
Craig Bannister at Cybercast News Service: “A Georgetown co-ed told Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s hearing that the women in her law school program are having so much sex that they’re going broke, so you and I should pay for their birth control. Speaking at a hearing held by Pelosi to tout Pres. Obama’s mandate that virtually every health insurance plan cover the full cost of contraception and abortion-inducing products, Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke said that it’s too expensive to have sex in law school without mandated insurance coverage. Apparently, four out of every ten co-eds are having so much sex that it’s hard to make ends meet if they have to pay for their own contraception, Fluke’s research shows.”
So, maybe Rush’s choice of words was a little harsh, but I do see where he is coming from if this article is indeed the truth.
breasonable
March 1st, 2012
2:55 pm
Bookman, you idiot. So she goes to this lawschool and whines that she has to pay for abortions (not just birth control!) Where does ANYTHING say that the government should make us pay for anything except national defense? As usual, liberal slander aside, Rush is RIGHT!
rivercard
March 1st, 2012
2:56 pm
Timbo – You do understand that if the pill is your chosen form of birth control you take it everyday whether you are having sex every night or once a month?
Why shouldn’t birth control be included just like other medicines? I don’t agree with it being free , but can’t see a reason to exclude. Seems like it could be a slippery slope if we start picking and choosing.
I am sure the insurance companies want it to be included and use encouraged, as it is a lot cheaper than a pregnancy.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
2:57 pm
@Here we go
Then what does this mean?
Apparently, four out of every ten co-eds are having so much sex that it’s hard to make ends meet if they have to pay for their own contraception, Fluke’s research shows.”
If they are not paying, then who is? Maybe Planned Parenthood, but they are subsidized by federal taxes, which is a portion of my money.
real john
March 1st, 2012
2:58 pm
Go Rush! I 100% agree. I’m so sick of these ugly, liberal ladies acting like contraception and ‘women’s rights’ is the issue on this Healthcare debate. That has NOTHING to do with what the Catholics are fighting for.
Heck, go down to your local county health dept and get contraception. I mean, if the guy who are having sex with is too broke to buy condoms, maybe that should tell these girls about the kind of guy they are about to hook up with.
Again, this debate has NOTHING to do with ‘women’s rights.” The Dems know that Obama royally screwed up on this one and are trying to deflect this to a totally different thing
Josh
March 1st, 2012
2:59 pm
What do you call a woman that makes you pay for her birth control? A prostitute.
That’s a fair statement. This woman claims she’s having so much sex, she’s going broke and in the meantime, she’s spending $45,000 for tuition at Georgetown.
A frugal note to you all; you may want to try the $5 generics at Wallmart before demanding that US tax payers subsidise your choice of life style.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
3:01 pm
@Rivercard
I have stated on more than 1 occasion that I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH INSURANCE COMPANIES PAYING FOR BIRTH CONTROL.
Again (and again, and again), let this woman have a choice at Georgetown, as well as others. Offer 2 insurance carriers to each student, one that covers birth control and one that doesn’t. Let the student make a choice, don’t force the entire student body to pay for those services.
Julia
March 1st, 2012
3:05 pm
In my opinion, ElRushbo & vile are synonymous with one another.
real john
March 1st, 2012
3:07 pm
Guess what, I was a smoker and my health insurance would not pay the $200 a month it is for Chantix to quit smoking. Imagine that, as bad as smoking is, the medicine that has proven to help make you quit is not covered and I have a top notch plan.
Now, I could make an argument that quit smoking is much more important than birth control, but I”m not going up to a Congressional panel to argue about how “life is so unfair.” Get over it girl, just pay for your own contraception.
Here we go!
March 1st, 2012
3:09 pm
timbo – we agree – both plans should be offered, one with and one without contraceptives. See – we agree on something!
My issue is I dont’ care how much sex she is having, who she is having it with, or the position in which she is having it, IF she is having sex. NONE of our business. When my kids go to college – you aren’t paying for their health insurance – I am! You are NOT paying for hers, she is. The college has elected to give faculty contraceptive coverage to the facutly, but not offer it to the students. They offer a policy that does NOT cover contraceptives. So we can agree if they offer it to the faculty, they should offer it the students. Correct? That is what Ms. Fluke is asking. Why has this denegrated into a sex issue, again?
BRW
March 1st, 2012
3:09 pm
timbo, you idiot. My mother doesn’t drive any longer but I bet she still pays for the ones YOU drive on every day. Pay for your own dang roads, prostitute!
GeeMac
March 1st, 2012
3:10 pm
I did read your entire post, Timbo. What you quoted was someone else’s opinion of what Ms. Fluke testified, NOT what Ms. Fluke actually said. Check out the link if you want to know what her testimony really was.
rivercard
March 1st, 2012
3:10 pm
@Timbo- Then why do you keep throwing out that bogus frequency red herring?
GeeMac
March 1st, 2012
3:13 pm
@ Josh “That’s a fair statement. This woman claims she’s having so much sex, she’s going broke and in the meantime, she’s spending $45,000 for tuition at Georgetown.”
Nowhere does Sandra Fluke claim this, Limbaugh did. Again, if you are interested in the facts, use the link I provided to read her actual, entire testimony.
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
March 1st, 2012
3:13 pm
Coming from a duoche like Rush slut is a compliment.
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
March 1st, 2012
3:14 pm
Only trailer trash listen to this burnout.
real john
March 1st, 2012
3:15 pm
former head of Georgetown Law Students for Reproductive Justice….
That tells it all…what a joke. As if women are some how stopped from buying birth control. Please..Bunch of liberal nonsense.
rivercard
March 1st, 2012
3:16 pm
Apparently, four out of every ten co-eds are having so much sex that it’s hard to make ends meet if they have to pay for their own contraception, Fluke’s research shows.
I noticed this part had none of those pesky quotation marks, so until I can find the actual testimony I will assume it is more of the typical made up newsmax/fox style of reporting. At least today greeted us with one less of the lying scum.
nomaj
March 1st, 2012
3:17 pm
Poor Limbaugh makes all this money, and is probably not gay, but he’s such a pathetic slob that anyone other than a goldigger would want anything to do with his lard-ass. A decent woman couldn’t stand him, and he knows that, so therefore all decent women are sluts and bitches.
And being call a slut by this popular sleaze purveying goon will be good for the law student’s future career, so this is actually working out quite well for her. Besides, if she’s not tough, she’s choosing the wrong profession, but since she spoke up publicly about her concern, she’s tough enough.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
3:19 pm
@GeeMac
Hence my last statement;
So, maybe Rush’s choice of words was a little harsh, but I do see where he is coming from if this article is indeed the truth.
Jay
March 1st, 2012
3:21 pm
There’s a link to her testimony in the third graf above.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
3:26 pm
@rivercard
Just trying to help folks out here by doing a copy/paste. Here is the article;
http://cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/sex-crazed-co-eds-going-broke-buying-birth-control-student-tells-pelosi-hearing
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
3:29 pm
timbo – Thought about maybe, I don’t know, actually reading her testimony? You know, get it from the proverbial horse’s mouth instead of from someone else’s take off on it?
rivercard
March 1st, 2012
3:29 pm
Read the testimony. Suspicion confirmed . Bannister article pure drivel. Read a few of his other pieces. Typical Breitbart style loon.
Here we go!
March 1st, 2012
3:34 pm
@timbo – I am understanding you have a reading problem. Here are the quotes, per your own link:
“Forty percent of the female students at Georgetown Law reported to us that they struggled financially as a result of this policy”
“Without insurance coverage, contraception, as you know, can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school,” Fluke told the hearing.
“For a lot of students, like me, who are on public interest scholarships, that’s practically an entire summer’s salary,” she complains.
Notice the reference to 40% struggling financially to pay for the contraceptives, didn’t say anything about having sex. Notice also it takes her a summer’s worth of salary to pay for it – how do you get that you are paying for it? How?
Indy
March 1st, 2012
3:35 pm
Limbaugh was wrong calling the student a slut. Just because she’s a woman speaking her mind about the latest hot topic in politics, she’s asking to be verbally assaulted? It’s like saying she’s pretty, so she asked to be raped.
WE ARE ALL PAYING insurance premiums for the same companies, so guess what? Whether you pay for contraception on YOUR particular insurance plan or not, YOU ARE STILL PAYING for someone else to have it. Its very very obvious those who blog here are not in the industry.
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
3:36 pm
rivercard – Yeah, people are idiots. Saying that 40% of the student population can’t afford to buy contraception is not the same as saying 40% of the female student population is having so much sex they can’t afford to buy the medicine. But it is much better to paint all these women as whores instead of actually trying to address the issue.
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
3:38 pm
Here we go! You hit it on the head with the “reading problem” but you left out comprehension. It is a reading comprehension problem. Oh, and a she is a female, she shouldn’t be in school problem also. Just guessing, but I’m thinking a lot of the people here today think that since they seem to believe that she is a whore just for being on birth control.
Here we go!
March 1st, 2012
3:39 pm
The rest of the article is the writers own opinion, not fact. The facts are, she is paying for her insurance and it is a financial struggle. She is going to a school that allows it for the faculty, not the students. Is that fair? It is not offered. She is using the college insurance because it is far more cheaper than getting it on her own, as we all know. Group insurance isn’t affordable but get a policy on your own and forget it. And before all of you start about her having sex, how in the world do you know she is not the one having cyst explode in her body and that is why she is using the contraceptive?
BRW
March 1st, 2012
3:40 pm
Tom Lawrence, You prude. What does having sex have to do with being moral? The words he used to describe her, now that was immoral.
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
March 1st, 2012
3:42 pm
Rush is a pandering turd his audience a also turds.