Limbaugh’s vile attack on a student who dared to speak up
Wow. This is true slime.
Some of you may recall Sandra Fluke, a student at Georgetown University and former head of Georgetown Law Students for Reproductive Justice, who was barred by House Republicans from offering a woman’s perspective at a male-dominated hearing on the Obama administration’s contraception rule.
Later, House Democrats set up their own hearing in which Fluke was the star witness. Her full prepared testimony can be found here, but as the AP reported it:
“Fluke, a third-year law student, said that Georgetown Law, a Jesuit institution, does not provide contraception coverage in its student health plan and that contraception can cost a woman more than $3,000 during law school. She spoke of a friend who had an ovary removed because the insurance company wouldn’t cover the prescription birth control she needed to stop the growth of cysts.”
Think what you will of the issue or of Fluke’s testimony. Nothing the young woman said or did earned her this, from Rush Limbaugh:
“What does it say about the college coed Susan [sic] Fluke, who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex? What does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. She wants to be paid to have sex.
“She’s having so much sex she can’t afford the contraception. She wants you and me and the taxpayers to pay her to have sex. What does that make us? We’re the pimps.
“The johns, that’s right. We would be the johns — no! We’re not the johns. Well — yeah, that’s right. Pimp’s not the right word.
“OK, so, she’s not a slut. She’s round-heeled. I take it back.”
I’ve shied away from accusations that this issue is being driven on the right by misogyny, because in many cases it’s not. But clearly, in many other cases that’s exactly what’s driving it. Limbaugh’s attack is a vicious attempt to frighten and intimidate women into going silent on the issue, and the message is intended not merely for Fluke but for women in general. Limbaugh is a frightened little bully attempting to keep women in their place, and in that regard is no different than the mullahs of Afghanistan who condemn non-virgin women to a stoning.
It is a despicable, and it tells you a lot about the current state of affairs in our nation that someone with a podium as grand and lucrative as Limbaugh’s can spout such bile about a young woman whom he has never met, and do so without consequence.
– Jay Bookman
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(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
8:33 am
Well, realizing I’m coming in a bit late, but USinUK’s first comments were probably right on the money. I can easily see how it could cost that much. Some types of birth control pills aren’t cheap, and some women can’t take just any type of birth control pill. Without insurance, my wife’s pills would cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $1,000 a year. On an aside, if she is a 3L, that means she graduates in May. Which means she could take and pass the bar sometime this summer if she worked really hard at it. Wonder just how long it will take her to put that law degree to work and pay off her student loans with Rush’s money? I know if someone went on the air and called my wife a whore, that’s exactly what we would be doing.
Jm
March 1st, 2012
8:33 am
Obama doesn’t understand the meaning if “peace through strength”
Afghanistan is crumbling and it is obama’s failure
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 1st, 2012
8:33 am
Aqua
I didn’t say with him still in them (here’s where the smiley face goes)
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
March 1st, 2012
8:34 am
1st clue of losing argument at 2nd 8:33 above….
Freedom to Speak
March 1st, 2012
8:35 am
Hello Ladies says,
I smell crazy all over this beyotch.
I can tell that you have been turned down many times by intelligent women. I bet you can not hold a conversation longer than two minutes on anything that is revelant when it comes to respecting a woman…You my dear is a sad excuse!!
Normal
March 1st, 2012
8:35 am
You know? When you think about it I would rather be on the hook for women’s birth control pills and be no the hook for, say, tools of war…
Repeat after me…Make love. not war…
Bosch
March 1st, 2012
8:35 am
Sorry for the random off topic, but I just wanted to announce that I am in full political (and personal) mourning over Olympia Snowe’s, aka Senate Goddess, decision to leave the Senate…..the humanity!!!
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
8:36 am
Normal – I would rather be on the hook for a woman’s birth control than for the woman and her child when she gets pregnant and drops out of school.
Paul
March 1st, 2012
8:36 am
Limbaugh appears to have gone from calculating what will play with his audience and further enrich him to saying what he really thinks, regardless of the financial reward. And he does so without any concern for repercussions, as most of his listeners take seriously whatever he says.
One’s despicable, the others are to be pitied.
“Quit trying to dress up the sleaze.”
That’s so much better than ‘when you’re in a hole, stop digging.”
I’ll also note again (because it’s so much fun pointing out the glaring beams of light to those who claim it’s all darkness) that whenever Justice Scalia and United States v Lee is mentioned, the response is…..
wait…. there’s been a response?
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
March 1st, 2012
8:36 am
GG@8:34
Good catch. You know he does it every day. To his credit he is extremely effective. It is fun to watch the herd follow him so quickly.
Normal
March 1st, 2012
8:37 am
Bosch…
My deepest sympathy… But maybe her seat will go Democrat…
Willydoit?
March 1st, 2012
8:38 am
“Ok,
but it would be more fun to burn your jockey lowrise red mesh briefs.”
Not the ones with the elephant face and trunk though, right??
Jim163
March 1st, 2012
8:38 am
The left did start the contraception debate. When Adam states one of the candidates is very vocal on the subject, he forgets that the same candidate has also stated several times he would not press to outlaw contraception. The same candidate also stated that he thought it would be crazy to think it would be outlawed. The rights issue was a religious freedom issue. The left deflected.
Gale
March 1st, 2012
8:38 am
I don’t have time to catch up and keep up this morning. But I am glad someone above commented about Viagra being in Georgetown’s policy, while contraception is not. That was not the exact comment, btw. While Jay may not call Rush’s comments misogynistic, I will. I cannot imagine how any woman would vote for this guy. He obviously has a very low opinion of women.
Freedom to Speak
March 1st, 2012
8:38 am
You my dear is a sad excuse!!
correction
You my dear ARE a sad excuse!!
Normal
March 1st, 2012
8:39 am
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
8:36 am
Whatever works to keep contraceptives available and free…
Jm
March 1st, 2012
8:40 am
As long as republicans focus on this jay will too
Of course if it wasn’t this, it would be something else
Paul
March 1st, 2012
8:40 am
Morning, Bosch!
Just the other day we had a moment of silence for you in your time of deep mourning.
It was also mentioned the memorial service would be at the first full moon.
Will there be nekkid dancing and mayonnaise?
timbo
March 1st, 2012
8:40 am
Oh my God…stop the presses! Bookman is upset with a conservative. I am shocked…absolutely shocked.
Jay, grow up and grow a pair. Your cries of outrage are about as false as a liberal who says they care.
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
8:41 am
Gale – Rush is a talk show host, nobody is voting for him?
Thomas
March 1st, 2012
8:41 am
3k for contraceptives-
too funny.
Insurance should pay for seat belts and bike helmets as well.
Normal
March 1st, 2012
8:42 am
Paul,
Not mayo…leaves a stain…CRISCO!!! That’s the ticket!
USinUK
March 1st, 2012
8:43 am
“If you can’t afford birth control, then you damn sure can’t afford a child”
um. DUH
which is why she’s trying to GET birth control … so she doesn’t HAVE a child.
sweet jeebus, if stupid was an energy source, this blog could light Las Vegas.
Normal
March 1st, 2012
8:43 am
Is timbo Teabowing?
kayaker 71
March 1st, 2012
8:43 am
Limbaugh’s main point in this commentary was that there was so much sex going on at Georgetown University Law School that 4 in 10 women would have to spend up to 3K/yr on birth control devices just to keep up. And that at the expense of the taxpayer. He stated, and I listened to every word of this commentary, that if they were going to get laid that much, then the taxpayer should not be responsible for the bill. Guess that makes the ladies at Georgetown a little ahead of the curve, wouldn’t you say? Most insurance plans cover only a very limited number of ED drugs/mo for males. And that’s sure as hell no 3K. So get off your high horse, Bookman. This young lady was denied the privilege of speaking at the original committee hearing because the subject of contraception was not what the committee was convened for. She needed a box to stand on and wanted a forum to make her point. The fact that the Democrats would convene a hearing just for her is grandstanding at its best/worst. They are good at that.
Paul
March 1st, 2012
8:43 am
timbo
So, you’re defending what Limbaugh did and said?
Care to elaborate? (You may want to read the first page or two of comments before you respond so you don’t appear too silly).
Gale
March 1st, 2012
8:43 am
Uh, I meant listen to Rush, not vote for him. Mentally, I link Rush and Newt. It’s a problem I have.
USinUK
March 1st, 2012
8:44 am
Bosch – 8:35 – we held a moment of silence for you!!
and, off topic, WE MISS YOU round these here parts!!! hope the business is doing well.
Jim163
March 1st, 2012
8:44 am
‘Insurance should pay for seat belts and bike helmets as well”
As well as those participation trophies we’re forced to give kids of losing rec teams.
Adam
March 1st, 2012
8:44 am
JohnnyReb: When the Left quits spending other peoples money we might be able to have a meaningul dialouge on differences.
It is, in fact, the right who is spending other people’s money:
http://www.alternet.org/visions/154338/ayn_rand_worshippers_should_face_facts%3A_blue_states_are_the_providers,_red_states_are_the_parasites/
Tall
March 1st, 2012
8:44 am
…”Georgetown Law Students for Reproductive Justice..” Enough said.
Adam
March 1st, 2012
8:45 am
ByteMe: And there’s a big difference between “free contraception” and contraceptive coverage included in a health policy that someone — in this case, the student — pays for.
THIS
Skip
March 1st, 2012
8:45 am
So this is where all the male experts on womans health issues hang out, who would have thought.
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
8:45 am
Paul – I actually didn’t know about United States v. Lee. I just read about it though. Interesting case. Obviously the guy felt he was special, and the US said no. Not sure where any controversy comes in, but it could easily be extrapolated to apply the case of requiring schools to allow for contraceptive coverage in their insurance, that part where they decided that not all burdens on religion were unconstitutional especially.
Paul
March 1st, 2012
8:45 am
“USinUK”
“If you can’t afford to pay for triple-bypass surgery out of your own account you can’t afford to eat steak.”
carlosgvv
March 1st, 2012
8:45 am
What’s really scary is how many millions and millions of Americans listen to Rush and slavishly hang on his every word. If, at some point in the future, a book is written on The Dumbing Down of America, Rush will be one of the main features in this book. Looks like the lower classes are well on their way to becoming the vast majority classes. Goodbye America, I once knew you well.
USinUK
March 1st, 2012
8:45 am
“And that at the expense of the taxpayer”
BOLLOCKS
1) she’s talking about health care that SHE pays for
2) she’s talking about getting the same coverage that STAFF receive
and
3) GEORGETOWN IS A PRIVATE UNIVERSITY – NOT PUBLIC
gm
March 1st, 2012
8:46 am
Does anyone expect anything different from Rush ?, high school drop out former top 10 DJ, who never in his fat slob life took to the streets and protest or stand for anything.
This man makes over 100 million off his low self esteem audience who can not research for them self, to insult a women like this shows how much the conservative right care about women, and the rep conservative women loved to be walked on and insulted its part of their submissive history.
USinUK
March 1st, 2012
8:46 am
Paul – 8:45 – seriously.
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
8:47 am
Gale – While I’ll agree that is a problem, I can see where you would make the mistake. One is an obese blowhard, and the other is, wait which one did I describe first?
Normal
March 1st, 2012
8:47 am
Gale
March 1st, 2012
8:43 am
‘Morning Cuz…
I’m surprised they haven’t thought to rent out their backsides as bill boards to make some extra coin…
Adam
March 1st, 2012
8:47 am
JohnnyReb: Free contraceptives drive up cost that is passed to all under the group policy including the employer.
False. They actually LOWER the cost.
ByteMe - Liberal Thug
March 1st, 2012
8:47 am
Limbaugh appears to have gone from calculating what will play with his audience and further enrich him to saying what he really thinks, regardless of the financial reward.
Paul, that is not correct. If you read what some of his listeners here are saying, he’s saying what plays well with them. He is sleaze. They are sleazy because they agree with him and ooze the same stupidity.
Bosch
March 1st, 2012
8:47 am
Paul, not even your quick wit or cheerful disposition can cheer me up… I just don’t feel like dancing…
I miss you too USinUK
And Reb, when the LEFT stops spending everyone’s money?? Get your head out of the sand my friend, the wingnuts are right there spending away- the sooner you stop listening to the likes of Rush the better off you’ll be.
Paul
March 1st, 2012
8:48 am
(ir)Rational
If you’d like to read how the case applies to this entire election-year issue, this thread does a nice job.
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/02/10/arguing-for-obama-justice-antonin-scalia/
Adam
March 1st, 2012
8:49 am
Here is some chick going to law school at Georgetown, which is one of the more expensive universities in the country, and she doesn’t think she should have to pay for her own birth control?
No, she doesn’t think she should pay into an insurance policy that gives faculty and staff contraceptives as part of the plan, but not students, and then have to pay EXTRA outside of that plan for BC when no one else has to.
Billings
March 1st, 2012
8:49 am
If she needs our help to pay for her birth control she isn’t liberated enough. If she is paying $3K a year, she is probably selling them to her friends.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
8:49 am
USinUK
‘which is why she’s trying to GET birth control … so she doesn’t HAVE a child.’
Are you really that stupid? How about this approach…..DON”T HAVE SEX or BUY IT YOUR DAMN SELF!!!!. Holy schnit, these Bookman blogs never cease to amaze me and scare me all at the same time.
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
8:50 am
kayaker – You realize that she said $3,000 during law school, which is 3 years. So roughly $1,000 a year. And that is EASILY believable with just birth control pills. And, not that it should matter, but you take birth control for more reasons than just not getting pregnant.
USinUK
March 1st, 2012
8:50 am
Billings – “If she needs our help to pay for her birth control she isn’t liberated enough.”
FERCRYINGOUTLOUD!!!!
kayaker 71
March 1st, 2012
8:51 am
USinUK,
I don’t give a flip if Georgetown is public, private or what. If 4 in 10 women at Georgetown are having enough sex to spend 3K/month on birth control devices, that’s one hell of a lot of screwing. 36K/yr on birth control devices!! Someone is paying for that. The insurance companies are sure as hell not giving these things away. Where were these schools when I was a young man.
Paul
March 1st, 2012
8:51 am
ByteMe
I meant, he’s not just thinking “what’ll work best today and get me more $$$” to “forget the money, I’m on a mission.”
My point was also that his listeners don’t seem to distinguish between the two. Which is why I said Limbaugh’s despicable while his listeners are to be pitied.
Normal
March 1st, 2012
8:51 am
timbo…BOO!
USinUK
March 1st, 2012
8:51 am
Billings – this isn’t about YOUR FRICKING TAX DOLLARS!!!
This is about having the insurance policy that SHE PAYS FOR cover birth control
just like it does for staff
this has NOTHING to do with tax money
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
8:51 am
Paul – Thanks, I’ll check that out when I have a few.
carlosgvv
March 1st, 2012
8:51 am
Rush and Republican leaders certainly know their base. They understand that, with their supporters, class is out and sleaze is in.
USinUK
March 1st, 2012
8:52 am
kayaker – “if Georgetown is public, private or what. If 4 in 10 women at Georgetown are having enough sex to spend 3K/month on birth control devices, that’s one hell of a lot of screwing”
i refuse to believe that you are actually that stupid.
in case you are, go back to page 1 where I adressed the issue of $3K.
Adam
March 1st, 2012
8:52 am
Paul: wait…. there’s been a response?
The only response so far has been one little man’s attempt at making himself sound smart by name checking logical fallacies and then pretending that he himself does not use the same logical fallacies in other arguments, showing a complete lack of understanding of logic on a base level. Still, it must have felt good to be a “snob” for a short time.
Jm
March 1st, 2012
8:52 am
Afghanistan- Obama failure
Economy – Obama failure
Energy independence – Obama failure
Deficit reduction – Obama failure
Vote Romney 2012
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
8:52 am
Man, kayaker went from reading $3,000 over 3 years, to $3,000 a year, to $3,000 a month. Your skills at reading comprehension and changing history are quite impressive sir.
TaxPayer
March 1st, 2012
8:52 am
USinUK
March 1st, 2012
8:45 am
“And that at the expense of the taxpayer”
BOLLOCKS
1) she’s talking about health care that SHE pays for
2) she’s talking about getting the same coverage that STAFF receive
and
3) GEORGETOWN IS A PRIVATE UNIVERSITY – NOT PUBLIC
AMEN to that, USinUK.
Bosch
March 1st, 2012
8:54 am
I’m sorry but after reading through these posts, Andrew Sullivan was right.
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
8:54 am
Bosch – I’ve never uttered those words before, so I have to ask, about what?
cranky old man
March 1st, 2012
8:54 am
I’m a bit left of center myself, especially on most economic issues. I’m not a fan of abortion, but I don’t think it should be illegal. I think the administration blundered on this one, though. As I understand it, there is no legal requirement for any employer or school to actually offer medical insurance. So the end result will likely be that entities objecting to coverage of certain medications or procedures will simply drop coverage for everyone. I can see some conservative institutions doing just that, if for no other reason than to provide Republicans with a sound bite for attack ads in October-November. I come from a military background (I’m still in the GA National Guard), and I tend to approach problems from perspective of doing what it takes to accomplish the mission. Practicality is high on my list of priorities, and I have a great fondness for Macedonian solutions for Gordian impediments. But I’ll have to go with the right-wingers on this one. The end result will not be good.
Peadawg
March 1st, 2012
8:55 am
“Afghanistan- Obama failure” – How? He got Osama.
“Economy – Obama failure” – Jury’s still out
“Energy independence – Obama failure” – True
“Deficit reduction – Obama failure” – True
BTW…what does this have to do with Rush?
bman
March 1st, 2012
8:55 am
“No, she doesn’t think she should pay into an insurance policy that gives faculty and staff contraceptives as part of the plan, but not students, and then have to pay EXTRA outside of that plan for BC when no one else has to.”
She isn’t part of the staff, or faculty. She is a student. There IS a difference.
Paul
March 1st, 2012
8:55 am
aaaannnnd the deflection goes from Limbaugh’s attacking a young lady as a slut and a prostitute to….
why the young lady’s a greedy slut and a poor prostitute.
Aquagirl
March 1st, 2012
8:56 am
Where were these schools when I was a young man.
At least Kayaker is honest enough to admit why he’s upset.
Cramer
March 1st, 2012
8:56 am
Well like it or not Jay, we have something called the first amendment….You know… the same thing that protects you as you spout your bile without consequence.
Limbaugh may have been absurd to prove his point but he often does that. Regardless of whether he is a nice guy or not, what he says is true about this. She wants everyone else to pay for her $3000/year contraception.
Of course you don’t see it but it’s a bit telling that she isn’t asking for special coverage when a female is prone to cysts. She asking for blanket contraception that she can’t afford for everyone just in case there is a female who is prone to cysts. An unnecessary expense which can be free if people simply reduce the distance between their knee caps until they can afford it.
Just like elective surgery isn’t covered; elective contraception shouldn’t be. If a procedure becomes medically necessary…..cover it.
Thomas
March 1st, 2012
8:56 am
Elizabeth Warren and Obama should form a panel to investigate these egregious fees and costs. What is really astounding is that these costs are fixed. Contraception for the 1% ers should be 100k per year to subsidize those less fortunate.
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
8:56 am
kayaker – Without even having to pay for an OB-GYN appointment, I can easily see it going to $3,000 over 3 years. Without insurance, like I said before, my wife’s pills are close to $1,000 a year. So spread over 3 years, that is close to $3,000. I’ll be sure and tell my wife that she is a slut for spending that much on pills though. Thanks for that information. So that I can properly tell her where to direct her anger, can I get your address?
Adam
March 1st, 2012
8:57 am
Jim163: The left did start the contraception debate. When Adam states one of the candidates is very vocal on the subject, he forgets that the same candidate has also stated several times he would not press to outlaw contraception. The same candidate also stated that he thought it would be crazy to think it would be outlawed. The rights issue was a religious freedom issue. The left deflected.
First of all, the left did NOT start this debate. Think otherwise? Prove it. And labeling all non-Fox media outlets as “liberal” will not make your case, just so you know.
This whole thing started with Personhood USA, pressing years ago to define a zygote as a person, with a website that specifically said (until they decided it wouldn’t help their case) that they were against contraception too.
Finally, it doesn’t matter if Santorum says he would not push that particular aspect of his beliefs. I don’t believe him. In my view and opinion, he only said that so people like you, who are willing to give all conservatives the benefit of the doubt, would vote for him. And then he can push for it after he’s in, just like the wool-pulling that Bob McDonnell did in his race for governor of Virginia.
Bosch
March 1st, 2012
8:57 am
Irrational
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/01/17/newsweek-obama-dumb-cover_n_1210182.html
Paul
March 1st, 2012
8:58 am
Adam
Right after I posted that I saw Jay refer to the law of the land, a US Supreme Court decision, which ragnar dismissed as an appeal to authority.
Went thru a case of monitor cleaner on that one.
y’know, that’s going to get repeated here. “Well golly, what’s the law got to do with it? Supremes? Pres signs a bill advanced by Congress? So what? That’s nothing but an appeal to authority….”
Talking Head
March 1st, 2012
8:58 am
Stock Market crashes as Obama is elected…Stock Market soars as Obama is on his way out the door
Billings
March 1st, 2012
8:58 am
“this has NOTHING to do with tax money”
You’re right. It has more to do with religious freedom. The left prefers sexual freedom over religious freedom.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
8:58 am
Fluke, a third-year law student, said that Georgetown Law, a Jesuit institution, does not provide contraception coverage in its student health plan and that contraception can cost a woman more than $3,000 during law school.
I guess the cost of Aspirin has gone up. Damn pharmaceutical companies!
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
8:59 am
Okay, for the last time. $3,000 during law school, means $3,000 spread over THREE YEARS. Raise your hand if you don’t understand that. Why do I see hands going up on the right side of the room? Oh, never mind.
Adam
March 1st, 2012
8:59 am
kayaker: that if they were going to get laid that much, then the taxpayer should not be responsible for the bill.
Should the taxpayer be responsible for footing the bill associated with helping make damn sure a child is born if she gets pregnant? How much enforcement money are you willing to put into that? And don’t worry, I already know you do not support putting forth any taxpayer money to help children survive and thrive AFTER they are born, so I won’t ask you a question related to that.
stands for decibels
March 1st, 2012
8:59 am
I do like how Limbaugh pisses off all the libs though.
Pissing off liberals. Again: This is the conservative Prime Directive. It takes priority uber alles.
see also.
ByteMe - Liberal Thug
March 1st, 2012
9:00 am
Here is some chick going to law school at Georgetown, which is one of the more expensive universities in the country, and she doesn’t think she should have to pay for her own birth control?
Saw a stat two days ago about Harvard. Anyone whose parents make under $180K automatically gets financial aid to go there that covers about 90% of the costs. It’s all beside the point, but I thought it was an interesting fact to share.
kayaker 71
March 1st, 2012
9:00 am
I would say that if these women are having that much sex, then their heels should assume a rather rounded look. BTW, a 28 tablet Orthonovum prescription costs about 35 dollars. That’s about 420/yr. Perhaps they are covering the condom bills as well or who knows, with the number of abortions performed in this country, perhaps they are not using them at all.
TNRealist
March 1st, 2012
9:01 am
As the middle aged father of 2 daughters had the slob known as Rumh made his comments about my duaghters I would be well on my to finding him and whipping his a**, teaching his a bit about southern manners and daughters. I don’t give a d**n about his position one way or the other as I will take care of me and mine but his comments were WAY out of line.
Doggone/GA
March 1st, 2012
9:01 am
“DON”T HAVE SEX ”
Didn’t work so well for Mary, though…did it?
Donovan
March 1st, 2012
9:02 am
…”the current state of affairs in our nation that someone with a podium” is exactly what you, Jay Bookman and Mike Luckovich, are are doing as well. It’s not just Rush Limbaugh.
For years you two have vilified, demeaned, and ridiculed our past president and current GOP candidates with insulting literary essays and illustrations. Hypocrisy at its best and you guys don’t even know you are doing it, but this is typical of the Democrat Party. I’m here to call you out along with your chirpy little peanut gallery that goes along with your shenanigans..
Little Miss Fluke is the mirror image of the Democrat Party and a component of the Occupy types. She represents the entitlement mentality that expects to be compensated by the government, insurance companies, or school systems for things that should be obtained personally. Based on the fact that she is going to Georgetown University, her parents and the parents of other students there can damn well afford such birth control expense. Outside of contraceptive medication to regulate periods or stem cystic growth, preventive measures for sexual adventure is not the responsibility of government, insurance companies, or school systems. It is an outrage that this child of higher education finds a congressional soap box to complain about unnecessary funding for birth control. An Outrage!
However, the podium of Jay Bookman provides a nice little bully bastion whereby he can come to the defense of this poor child who cries foul because she cannot get free birth control while trying to manage sex and studies at the expense of others paying for it. The Democrat Party is especially famous for demagoging issues that pertain to children or adolescence. Here we have another example of blaming a conservative voice for his objection to entitlement corruption. And here we have another example of the left hiding behind the skirts of our children.
The Republicans did not want to waste time on listening to collegiate complaints of sex and studies while it wrestled with more important economic issues. Therefore, it was your very own corrupt Nancy Pelosi who took up the banner for little Miss Fluke’s impassioned cry for “entitled” birth control give-outs. In true typical fashion, we see this hypocritical representitive of the Democrat Party from San Francisco lend her 2 cents defending the ills of society.
This is why this country is polarized and looking for new leadership. We have had enough.
USinUK
March 1st, 2012
9:03 am
Billings – 8:58 – not according to the Supremes, it’s not.
(not to mention, Georgetown has no problem providing that coverage for its staff, so their religious beliefs seem to only extend ot students??? not quite)
Jm
March 1st, 2012
9:03 am
Peadawg 8:55
Afghanistan wasn’t just about getting Osama
It was mainly about mending a failed state that garbled crazy burkina
There will be a new Osama if we leave Afghanistan
Or we can build a wall around our country and stop trading with every country on earth which is what democrats prefer
(ir)Rational
March 1st, 2012
9:03 am
Bosch – I wouldn’t go so far as to say ALL of them, but yeah, he was probably right. Now I’ve got to go do something to allow me to regain my conservative credentials. Ummm, ummm, any woman who has sex out of wedlock is a whore and should be branded with a big W on her chest and thighs to warn all others!
Adam
March 1st, 2012
9:03 am
bman: She isn’t part of the staff, or faculty. She is a student. There IS a difference.
Only because that is what the “leaders” decided. And she disagrees. Got a problem with that? Fine. But does that make her a slut? Does that make it ok to call her a slut?
Gale
March 1st, 2012
9:03 am
I keep reading that Georgetown women are having so much sex it requires $3k for contraceptives. People! Contraceptives are the same if you have sex three times a day or once in three years. It is to prevent conception -whenever- sex happens. One might allow for the added insurance against an unexpected pregnancy that would derail that pricey education.
Doggone/GA
March 1st, 2012
9:03 am
” that’s one hell of a lot of screwing”
And none of it is ANY of your business, as long as you aren’t involved.
USinUK
March 1st, 2012
9:05 am
“BTW, a 28 tablet Orthonovum prescription costs about 35 dollars”
PLUS THE DOCTOR’S FEES!!!
Plus, if you have medical issues – such as ovarian cysts – and you require an ultrasound, then that’s another added expense.
so, no, it’s NOT about a packet of pills. it’s about the costs to get the prescription.
and, no, despite your asinine assertions, you don’t take more pills if you have more sex.
Adam
March 1st, 2012
9:05 am
Paul: Right after I posted that I saw Jay refer to the law of the land, a US Supreme Court decision, which ragnar dismissed as an appeal to authority.
Like I said, it’s a lack of understanding of logic at a base level.
Paul
March 1st, 2012
9:05 am
Blog’s full of Santorum supporters this morning.
All are afraid someone’s having more fun than they are or ever will.
Bosch
March 1st, 2012
9:05 am
Kayaker
Some of those women are undoubtedly having lots of sex with men taking Viagra, which is covered by insurance – see the double standard? Probably not.
Off the Deep End - The Republicans Are Beyond Redemption
March 1st, 2012
9:06 am
Fighting contraception. Stopping domestic violence protections. Extending tax cuts for the wealthy, while hiking taxes on the middle class. Welcoming white supremacists to a conference, but banning gay conservatives.
The GOP has followed its extremist fringe off the deep end, leaving the rest of us back in the reality-based world befuddled. Their STRATEGISTS warned them NOT TO DO THIS, but it appears that to the GOP, radical fringe issue positions are like catnip.
In the last Republican presidential debate in Arizona, the candidates even spent several minutes discussing which of them is least in favor of allowing rape victims to have access to emergency contraception.
timbo
March 1st, 2012
9:08 am
@ Donovan
WOW!!! If there was a Conservative Hall Of Fame, your statue would surely be there, and that scribe you just posted would be right underneath it. Excellent job!!!
Prepare yourself, the mindless drivel from the uninformed left are about to attack you.
Adam
March 1st, 2012
9:08 am
Billings: “this has NOTHING to do with tax money”
You’re right. It has more to do with religious freedom
No, it has NOTHING to do with religious freedom, unless your definition of religious freedom is “freedom to push my religion on everyone else through government.” Sorry, but we have this thing called the FIRST AMENDMENT, as you cons often like to point out, that prohibits that.
What is the difference between paying a woman a wage, that she then uses to go and buy Birth Control if she wants, versus paying an insurance company for a group policy that includes this coverage at no increase in cost, that the same female employees then can use to get Birth Control?
Certainly not religious freedom there, if your argument is they are subsidizing it. In both cases, the fact that they employ women AT ALL and provide health insurance AT ALL is subsidizing it.
Guess they should stop hiring women. Oh wait….
Paul
March 1st, 2012
9:09 am
Donovan
“For years you two have vilified, demeaned, and ridiculed our past president and current GOP candidates with insulting literary essays and illustrations. ”
Ummm….. more to the point…. did Jay every do a column referring to their daughters as sluts and prostitutes?
A one-word response will suffice.
Daedalus
March 1st, 2012
9:10 am
The best part of this blog was when Ragnar claimed to be a victim because of her viewpoints. I don’t recall anyone here calling Ragnar a s#&%.