Romney’s victories much-needed on several counts

Mitt Romney won Arizona easily and took his native Michigan by just three percentage points, but in the end he did take it. That’s good news for the Romney campaign, good news for the Republican Party and good news for the United States of America.

It helps no one to have one of our major political parties take a headlong plunge into fanaticism and willful ignorance. That’s what the nomination of either Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum would represent. And while Romney’s pandering makes him a less than stalwart champion against those tendencies, under the circumstances he’ll have to do.

David Brooks described the GOP nominating process well the other day, writing:

” … we’ve had a primary campaign that isn’t really an argument about issues. It’s a series of heresy trials in which each of the candidates accuses the others of tribal impurity. Two kinds of candidates emerge from this process: first, those who are forceful but outside the mainstream; second, those who started out mainstream but look weak and unprincipled because they have spent so much time genuflecting before those who despise them.”

Romney is clearly the second type of candidate. And the sad thing is, should the former Massachusetts governor go on to win the nomination but lose the general election, his defeat will be cited by many as confirmation that the Republican Party loses when it chooses moderation. What ought to serve as a warning sign about the political perils of extremism will instead be interpreted as a validation of extremism.

Over at Redstate.com, conservatives are making that argument already, predicting a Romney loss this fall and taking solace that “at least we can be rid of him and, hopefully, his most ardent cheerleaders on November 7th.”

Yesterday, Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine announced her retirement, stripping the GOP and the country of one of the last remaining moderate voices in the party, a voice that in truth had already been all but silenced. Robert Bennett of Utah has already been purged. Another of the endangered, Republican icon Richard Lugar, is fighting for his political life in Indiana against a primary challenge. As John Danforth, a former senator and himself a symbol of a wiser, saner GOP, warned last fall:

“If Dick Lugar, having served five terms in the U.S. Senate and being the most respected person in the Senate and the leading authority on foreign policy, is seriously challenged by anybody in the Republican Party, we have gone so far overboard that we are beyond redemption.”

The forces within the party that feed on RINO meat have gotten so desperate for prey that they have turned on Orrin Hatch of Utah, a man whose conservative credentials were once considered impeccable. At this point, Hatch’s future rides on the outcome of party caucuses on March 15, and may have to survive a primary challenge after that.

It’s hard to know where all this leads, but the sense continues to grow that we’re building toward something noted in the history books as an important political turning point. I do know that when the circus comes to town on March 6, the Georgia primary, I’m picking up a Republican ballot and voting for MItt.

In your heart, you know that’s right.

– Jay Bookman

482 comments Add your comment

Midori

February 29th, 2012
6:52 am

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
6:55 am

“The forces within the party that feed on RINO meat have gotten so desperate for prey that they have turned on Orrin Hatch of Utah, a man whose conservative credentials were once considered impeccable.”

holy moly.

I mean, I knew that the tightie righties had taken over the zoo, but criminey – questioing Hatch’s conservative credentials???

they’ve swung so far to the right, they’ll be coming up on the left any day now

Normal

February 29th, 2012
6:56 am

Damn Jay, You’re up early!

My Dad was a lifelong Republican and Of course, he adored Eisenhower. Being his son, I became a Democrat just to tic him off. Today I wish the Republican Party was like my Father’s…but alas…

Too bad too. I have more faith in the American People to ever let the Republican Party continue as it is…We don’t need a God Only Party…

Recon 0311 2533

February 29th, 2012
7:03 am

If Romney wins the nomination and goes on to win in November he will advance the conservative agenda. Most conservatives know that to be true and will vote for him.

Cherokee

February 29th, 2012
7:04 am

I was of the opinion that sane people everywhere should vote for Santorum, on the theory that the only way the Republican party will rid themselves of their crazy tea party base is to suffer a massive defeat in November.

But honestly I think you’re correct – even the chance of a Santorum or Gingrich presidency would really harm this country – it’s just not worth taking that chance.

Brosephus - In Full Effect!!

February 29th, 2012
7:04 am

I do know that when the circus comes to town on March 6, the Georgia primary, I’m picking up a Republican ballot and voting for MItt.

:shock: :shock: :shock:

Skip

February 29th, 2012
7:04 am

Michigans not half as crazy as I remember it.

Brosephus - In Full Effect!!

February 29th, 2012
7:07 am

Recon

I’m guessing you didn’t read Erickson’s article that Jay linked to.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
7:07 am

“the only way the Republican party will rid themselves of their crazy tea party base is to suffer a massive defeat in November”

threat of a third-party break-away, anyone ???

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
7:09 am

“Michigans not half as crazy as I remember it.”

I dunno … those Yupies are pretty nutty ;-)

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
7:13 am

“If Republicans in Washington are not panicked and trying desperately to pull Bobby Jindal in the race tomorrow, or someone like him, the party leaders must have a death wish”

:lol:

oh,sweetjeebus – PLEASE pull Jindal into the race!!! (his response to the 2009 SOTU was a CLASSIC moment in “not ready for prime-time teevee” … http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/25/bobby-jindal-response-pan_n_169710.html)

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

February 29th, 2012
7:16 am

I 100% agree with Jay.

Whenever the Republicans lose now they say the problem was they weren’t Conservative enough. With that way of thinking I don’t see the Republicans getting their act together for a long, long time.

Midori

February 29th, 2012
7:24 am

I have a question: just what, exactly, is the conservative agenda?

Doggone/GA

February 29th, 2012
7:25 am

“I have a question: just what, exactly, is the conservative agenda?”

Beat me to it! I’d like to know too.

stands for decibels

February 29th, 2012
7:27 am

mornin’.

David Brooks described the GOP nominating process well

from the salad bar at Applebee’s?

.

.

(an oldie-but-goodie.)

ragnar danneskjold

February 29th, 2012
7:29 am

“Fanaticism and willful ignorance” sounds like “the One We Have Awaited” and the “stimulus.” Willful blindness can be inadvertently amusing.

stands for decibels

February 29th, 2012
7:30 am

just what, exactly, is the conservative agenda?

1. Wake up

2. Hate on libruls[1]

3. Gratuitously piss off libruls

4. Go to sleep

stands for decibels

February 29th, 2012
7:31 am

sounds like “the One We Have Awaited”

I love the smell of imaginary quotes in the mornin’.

ragnar danneskjold

February 29th, 2012
7:31 am

Dear Jay, You omitted the hilarious whine by David Brooks, at the end of his essay:

“First they went after the Rockefeller Republicans, but I was not a Rockefeller Republican. Then they went after the compassionate conservatives, but I was not a compassionate conservative.

Then they went after the mainstream conservatives, and there was no one left to speak for me.”

This from a fellow who writes twice per week in the second most influential paper in the country. (I stole that from Taranto.)

Jm

February 29th, 2012
7:31 am

Woooohooooo Romney!

Took half the vote in AZ and handily won in MI.

Go Romney (Obama slayer) :)

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
7:31 am

“I have a question: just what, exactly, is the conservative agenda?”

to quote the mighty TBogg: “It’s not uter-YOU, it’s uter-US”

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
7:32 am

“handily won in MI. ”

3% is “handily”???

I’d hate to see what you’d call a squeaker … particularly since it was his home state …

stands for decibels

February 29th, 2012
7:33 am

Forgot the footnote @ 7.30, my apologies.

————-

1. a.k.a. “Scores of millions of your fellow working, taxypaying citizens.”

AmVet

February 29th, 2012
7:34 am

“I have a question: just what, exactly, is the conservative agenda?”

I know, I know, I know!!

Anything that the rest of mankind is for or believes in? They are against.

And vice versa.

stands for decibels

February 29th, 2012
7:35 am

Took half the vote in AZ

In other news: Desert Gooper zombies do as they’re told

Jm

February 29th, 2012
7:37 am

I think a lot of this is much ado about nothing.

Republicans want someone who will actually SHRINK government, not rubber stamp gradual but persistent government scope increases from Democrats. I can understand that sentiment fully.

southdem

February 29th, 2012
7:38 am

Keeping the Republican Party sane? That ship has already sailed, Jay. The GOP’s been the party of fanatics and racists since at least 1980. The only way to lance the boil is for it to suffer such a complete and total defeat that it just dies. Then a truly fiscally conservative party can develop to balance the Democrats, and the country really will be better off.

On the other hand, losing with Romney this fall will just embolden the GOP extremists and make them even more determined to nominate a true believer in 2016. Then they can suffer their catastrophic defeat and final collapse. Either way, by 2020 or 2024 we might have two responsible parties again.

I’m getting a Democratic ballot for Super Tuesday to give the President a vote of confidence. I will not be associated with the Republicans in any way, shape, or form.

Daedalus

February 29th, 2012
7:38 am

Maybe Santorum’s delirium is finally becoming evident to the GOP’s primary voters?

Too bad that Newt the Governor of the Moon shot himself in both feet, repeatedly. I was hoping for a few more months of Mitt v Rick v Newt…..but don’t count Santorum out in the South. We love our salted nuts.

Jm

February 29th, 2012
7:38 am

Usinuk 2000 FL. Squeaker

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
7:40 am

Jm – it was his home state. it was his wife’s home state. he should have done FAR better there than a 3% margin.

surely you agree.

stands for decibels

February 29th, 2012
7:42 am

I do know that when the circus comes to town on March 6, the Georgia primary, I’m picking up a Republican ballot and voting for MItt.

Ten years ago similarly noble motivations had me picking up a Gooper ballot and casting a vote for the most sane candidate, Sonny Perdue. I couldn’t allow myself to say, later, that I had done nothing and helped to allow Linda Schrencko–who was ranting about the PTA being a socialist organization and clearly deranged, and later convicted of felony charges–to become governor of this state.

And you know, I’ve never forgiven myself for that.

Anyway, Jay, YMMV.

Jm

February 29th, 2012
7:43 am

Usinuk 7:40. I don’t agree. “native son” voting patterns are tenuous at best

It’s more about voter demographics

Good job Romney the O slayer! :)

stands for decibels

February 29th, 2012
7:47 am

those Yupies are pretty nutty

all 299 thousand of them (3% of the MI population).

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
7:47 am

“It’s more about voter demographics”

voter demographics???

this was a Republican primary! “demographics” has little to nothing to do with it

Brosephus - In Full Effect!!

February 29th, 2012
7:48 am

dB

I was still registered in Alabama at that time. Thank G*d I don’t have to live with that baggage. I really feel bad for you for that one.

Normal

February 29th, 2012
7:48 am

Mitt couldn’t slay President Obama even if he had a rocket launcher…he’s flip flop and end up slaying himself…

Peadawg

February 29th, 2012
7:51 am

I don’t think it matters who won. Romney and Santorum have both given Obama enough ammo to run with in the election.

Midori

February 29th, 2012
7:53 am

USinUK – now you and I both know how hopeless it is trying to get jm to make some semblance of sense.

I don’t even think he’s past puberty yet.

barking frog

February 29th, 2012
7:53 am

Either Jay is a Republican or a
cross party voter like Mitt…

stands for decibels

February 29th, 2012
7:55 am

Romney and Santorum have both given Obama enough ammo to run with in the election.

This.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
7:55 am

P’diddy – “Romney and Santorum have both given Obama enough ammo to run with in the election.”

and that’s the joy of a reelection campaign – little to no opposition in your own party and the opposition party beating hte crap out of itself.

Normal

February 29th, 2012
7:56 am

Midori,
“I don’t even think he’s past puberty yet.”

I would respect him more if that was true… :)

Common Sense isn't very Common - Papist Independent

February 29th, 2012
7:58 am

bumper stickers:

Vote Gingrich 2012
I’m fat and an old white guy’

I’m against abortion and children
Vote Santorum 2012

I’m the other one

Vo Mitt 2012

stands for decibels

February 29th, 2012
8:01 am

I really feel bad for you for that one.

well, don’t–I was indulging in a bit of hyperbole to make a point to Jay.

Mostly I look on that misguided-but-noble 2002 vote as a mile-marker in my sociopolitical evolution (from self-IDing centrist to DFH) over the past decade.

AmVet

February 29th, 2012
8:03 am

Republicans want someone who will actually SHRINK government…

Sure they do.

Exactly like the last three men they elected to do that job and who failed in a gargantuanly perverse and intentional manner, right?

You spendaholic cons have no intention whatsoever of reigning in Uncle Sugar’s giveaways programs to the super-rich and the corporations who own this country.

You just want to see the money redistributed to them while you pick the winners and losers in your crony capitalism while being strong on defense.

Not bad, huh?

Four idiotic con slogans in one sentence..

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
8:04 am

Common – “I’m the other one”

the funny thing is that he could use that campaign slogan against both his fellow GOP candidates … as well as his own gubernatorial tenure!

Jimmy62

February 29th, 2012
8:05 am

Whereas the Democrat primaries the media makes the decision and the sheep follow along like good little useful idiots.

barking frog

February 29th, 2012
8:06 am

Jm

one more step to
Romney/Rubio 2012.

carlosgvv

February 29th, 2012
8:08 am

Jay, I feel it’s my duty to inform you the Republicans are already in “a headlong plunge into fanaticisn and willful ignorance” It may be you have not been paying attention to Mitt’s attempts to align himself with the crazed Tea Party dogma and ignorance. Mitt, Santorum and Gingrich are already in a trailer trash political mud wrestling contest and it will only stink to high heaven even more as time goes by.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
8:08 am

“Romney/Rubio 2012.”

you’re not cheering for Christie to be his running-mate?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-29/christie-tax-cut-wins-most-support-from-n-j-s-rich-poll-shows.html

gm

February 29th, 2012
8:08 am

Anytime you only win by 3% in your home town and half of your home town people vote against you, I would hang my head down, in the general election Obama will win there in a land slide.

stands for decibels

February 29th, 2012
8:09 am

Mitt couldn’t slay President Obama even if he had a rocket launcher…

eh, I think the Intraders are probably right about his chances. About one-in-three.

Of course if Mitt does win, it won’t be because he “slayed” Obama, but because events overtake this Administration’s ability to manage them.

Mitt will clean up nice and become a decent general election candidate, but he’ll be at a disadvantage at every rhetorical turn and no amount of SuperPAC money’s gonna change that.

Recon 0311 2533

February 29th, 2012
8:09 am

I read where 1 in 10 voters in Michigan were Democrats. Given that if it’s true and Romney being 15 points behind just a few week ago, it was a pretty big win.

Jay

February 29th, 2012
8:10 am

Sfd, sometimes civic duty requires you to perform unpleasant tasks.

At this moment, for example, I am sitting in the jury assembly room at the Fulton County Courthouse with a couple of hundred of my fellow citizens….

Recon 0311 2533

February 29th, 2012
8:11 am

I read where 1 in 10 voters in Michigan were Democrats.

It was indicated that the 1 in 10 Democrats voted for Santorum.

barking frog

February 29th, 2012
8:11 am

USnUK
not cheering..prognosticating.

stands for decibels

February 29th, 2012
8:12 am

Whereas the Democrat primaries the media makes the decision

Filed under “Really Stupid Conservative Articles of Faith” for future reference.

stands for decibels

February 29th, 2012
8:12 am

Sfd, sometimes civic duty requires you to perform unpleasant tasks.

At this moment, for example, I am sitting in the jury assembly room at the Fulton County Courthouse with a couple of hundred of my fellow citizens….

Hey, but the pay is excellent, right?

Brosephus - In Full Effect!!

February 29th, 2012
8:14 am

dB

:lol: Everytime I see those letters, I get a chuckle thanks to you. I had not paid that term much thought before.

Recon 0311 2533

February 29th, 2012
8:16 am

“I’m picking up a Republican ballot and voting for MItt.”

I wonder how many Georgia Democrats will do the same?

Normal

February 29th, 2012
8:16 am

Gosh Jay…

Whatever will we do if you end up being sequestered? :)

ByteMe - Liberal Thug

February 29th, 2012
8:17 am

The forces within the party that feed on RINO meat have gotten so desperate for prey that they have turned on Orrin Hatch of Utah, a man whose conservative credentials were once considered impeccable.

Then he went all “Hollywood” on them:

http://www.amazon.com/Put-Your-Arms-Around-World/dp/B00095OITA/ref=sr_1_6?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1330521344&sr=1-6

ByteMe - Liberal Thug

February 29th, 2012
8:17 am

At this moment, for example, I am sitting in the jury assembly room at the Fulton County Courthouse with a couple of hundred of my fellow citizens….

Then you have time to chat. :)

stands for decibels

February 29th, 2012
8:18 am

Everytime I see those letters, I get a chuckle thanks to you.

The pleasure’s mine.

…of course, those in the know realize there’s virtually no daylight between being truly “centrist”, i.e., in the mainstream of American political thought (as I consider myself to be–about the only truly unpopular opinion I can think of, on any major issue, is regarding the death penalty) and being a DFH. That’s the whole point of self-IDing thus.

Anyway, this DFH gots to go produce goods and services of tangible value. Later, kids.

man behind the curtain

February 29th, 2012
8:18 am

Uh, haven’t we already had our venture capitalist President in the form of GWB? I mean he did what Mitt does/did: cash out and bankrupt the country.

jconservative

February 29th, 2012
8:19 am

Jay, you repeated the Republican myth that niminating moderates is anautomatic loss;

1952 Eisenhower moderate…won
1958 Eisenhower moderate…won
1960 Richard Nixon moderate…lost
1964 Goldwater conservative…lost
1968 Richard Nixon moderate won
1972 Richard Nixon moderate….won
1976 Gerald Ford moderate…lost
1980 Ronald Reagan conservative…won
1984 Ronald Reagan moderate won
1988 George H. W. Bush moderate won
1992 George H. W. Bush moderate lost
1996 Bob Dole…………… conservatice lost
2000 George W. Bush moderate won
2004 George W. Bush moderate won
2008 John McCain moderate lost
scorecare
conservative…..1 W – 2 L
moderate………8 W – 4 L

p/s – I give Reagan a moderate on his reelection because there is no way anyone can call him conservative after his first term.

Common Sense isn't very Common - Papist Independent

February 29th, 2012
8:19 am

Jay – just tell them you can spot a guilty man a mile away. :-)

barking frog

February 29th, 2012
8:19 am

remove the Democrat crossovers
and Romney did o.k. in Michigan.

Joe The Plumber Too

February 29th, 2012
8:20 am

@ southerndim 7:38: “Keeping the Republican Party sane? That ship has already sailed, Jay. The GOP’s been the party of fanatics and racists since at least 1980.”
I am supporting the GOP no matter what against a man I believe has done more damage to this country than we know of yet. Please tell me how I racist?

Recon 0311 2533

February 29th, 2012
8:20 am

Watching some of Debbie Wasserman Schultz on television I think she’s even a bigger phony than Nancy Pelosi.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
8:21 am

“At this moment, for example, I am sitting in the jury assembly room”

I always got a lot of recreational reading done while hanging out in the assembly room before being dismissed for the day …

Murph

February 29th, 2012
8:22 am

Never EVER underestimate the ability of the Republicans to implode on themselves. Romney’s looking good at them moment but…refer back to my first sentence.

AmVet

February 29th, 2012
8:22 am

2000 George W. Bush moderate won
2004 George W. Bush moderate won

GWB a moderate????????????????

Unf&ckingbelievable.

Willydoit?

February 29th, 2012
8:23 am

“But honestly I think you’re correct – even the chance of a Santorum or Gingrich presidency would really harm this country – it’s just not worth taking that chance.”

I can see why you would say that. Look at the damage Obama and a super majority congress did in just two years.

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
8:23 am

Gotta say, I was a bit surprised last night when I pulled up the paper’s website and saw Romney was leading in Michigan. Even more surprised this morning when I saw he pulled it out. I realize Jay is correct about what the republicans will think if Romney is the candidate and loses the general election. I realized that a few days ago, and that made me think that maybe having Santorum as the nominee wouldn’t be a bad thing. Then maybe they could see that the crazy isn’t what America wants. It is what it is though.

On a side note, I realize I’m young and all, but I’ve been registered to vote for 9 years now, and have never once been called for jury duty. And I grew-up in a very small county where I had pretty decent odds of getting called (for example, my mom got called about twice a year). But, as Normal said, what are we going to do if Jay gets sequestered? Fight on this page for a week or two?

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 29th, 2012
8:23 am

Jay in a jury selection waiting room… I am sure we can have some of our less civic minded posters tell us how to avoid jury duty again while they wave the patriotic flag and tell us what it means to be free Americans! [Cue the Lee Greenwood music]

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
8:23 am

“2000 George W. Bush moderate won
2004 George W. Bush moderate won”

okay. this is what makes me call into question the “moderate / conservative” judgement …

Cosby

February 29th, 2012
8:23 am

I cetainly wish the Electorial college would do waht the founding fathers intended…pikc a statesman to be President…No one in the mix including Barry AKA Obama is worthy of the Office. But lals, we now have a system that only the wealthy can run and they have proven, since Lincoln, that none of them have a clue waht they are doing. Leave the White house vacant!!

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
8:24 am

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
7:40 am

Jm – it was his home state. it was his wife’s home state. he should have done FAR better there than a 3% margin.

surely you agree.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Surely he won’t. he THRIVES on negative attention so he will do anything, tell any lie just to get it. if he agrees then you might not talk to him anymore……… he can’t be the center.

Midori: He’s past puberty, that’s the problem. No one in the “home” will talk to him except the orderlies who bring his food and meds.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 29th, 2012
8:24 am

I would love to see a strong third or fourth party. Sign me up for the uber-liberal one…

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
8:25 am

dammitall, AmVet … you pipped me to the post …

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
8:25 am

Jay

February 29th, 2012
8:10 am

Sfd, sometimes civic duty requires you to perform unpleasant tasks.

At this moment, for example, I am sitting in the jury assembly room at the Fulton County Courthouse with a couple of hundred of my fellow citizens….
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What a crock and waste of time. As soon as they find out who you are both attorneys will trip over themselves trying to toss you out lol.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
8:25 am

and I know of no one who thinks that Reagan got more moderate the longer he was in office. ..

Normal

February 29th, 2012
8:26 am

I Guess I really want Mitt as an opponent for president Obama. Newt and Rick may be weird-o’s but they do the “Steely Eyed Glint” quite well. It shows they are “True Believers”. Of course, Newt believes in himself and Rick…well..whatever he believes in, he really believe in it.

Mitt, on the other hand, doesn’t do the “Steely Eyed Glint” thing well…he has no real convections (thus his ability to be a political chameleon)

Jay

February 29th, 2012
8:26 am

jcon, I wasn’t endorsing the myth, merely noting it.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
8:26 am

“As soon as they find out who you are both attorneys will trip over themselves trying to toss you out lol.”

sad, but true.

Normal

February 29th, 2012
8:28 am

Finn,
“Sign me up for the uber-liberal one.”

Yes, we could use a Unicorn Party… :D

AmVet - “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means." ~Barry Goldwater

February 29th, 2012
8:29 am

Fellow bloggers, I am stating the obvious here, but it is clear that the average Republican has no earthly idea of what conservatism is.

Goldwater was absolutely spot on.

And what a friggin’ bad (meaning deadly, immoral and incompetent) joke these fake versions are.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
8:29 am

stands for decibels

February 29th, 2012
8:09 am

Mitt couldn’t slay President Obama even if he had a rocket launcher…

eh, I think the Intraders are probably right about his chances. About one-in-three.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Um dB? You sent a link that was logged in to. I just bought you 100 shares………….

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
8:30 am

I don’t know, depending on what the case is, the defense attorney would probably be wise to try and keep someone who is educated, and thinks rationally and clearly on the jury. The prosecutor on the other hand will kick your butt to the curb.

Jay

February 29th, 2012
8:30 am

Not necessarily true, Fred.

If you recall the Lita Sullivan murder case of a few years ago, I kept making cut after cut for a death-penalty jury that was to be sequestered, from some 400 people down to 20 or so. On the final day I had to show up suitcase packed, ready for hotel confinement. Escaped, but barely.

gm

February 29th, 2012
8:32 am

I hope the GOP continue to appease the right wing nut jobs, they pretty much have lost most black conservatives, independents, moderates, sure they will keep certain blacks who hate themselfs like West, Cain, but a lot of black conservatives would never support Newt or Rick, do you think a Collin Powell would support any of those idiots?
I a proud of the people in Mich who voted against Mitt, this goes to show the people in the north vote for their interest not like the southern poor whites in the south who vote on race, look at Georgia last in education, top 3 in poverty and the poor whites still run and vote for Rep who dont care if they live or die, go figure””’

ByteMe - Liberal Thug

February 29th, 2012
8:34 am

Interesting headline over at CNN: “Apple worth more than Poland”

I see a takeover in their future…..

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
8:35 am

ByteMe – That would be interesting. Bet they would stop producing their products in China then. What’s the point if you own an entire country. :)

Guy Incognito

February 29th, 2012
8:36 am

Jay,

Tell them, “I believe in killin’ them all, and lettin God sort them out.”

Dismissed!

TaxPayer

February 29th, 2012
8:36 am

And the sad thing is, should the former Massachusetts governor go on to win the nomination but lose the general election, his defeat will be cited by many as confirmation that the Republican Party loses when it chooses moderation.

Any Republican worth his weight in tea leaves would spot that correlation and conclude that causation was a lack of conservatism.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
8:36 am

Wow Jay, that’s surprises me. They usually cut you “know people” pretty quickly. I’m always wanted to be on a jury but have only been called twice. Drives my wife nuts. Both here and when we lived in Gwinnett she’s been summoned 3 or 4 times, (total of 8 I think) in the last 20 years. Never been sat though.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
8:37 am

Jay – wow ! really??? I remember that case – horribly sad.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
8:38 am

Guy – 8:36 – now, that’s funny.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
8:39 am

I’ve never been sat, despite being called about a half-dozen times.

haven’t been called here, yet – don’t know if I’m eligible.

Willydoit?

February 29th, 2012
8:40 am

“I a proud of the people in Mich who voted against Mitt, this goes to show the people in the north vote for their interest not like the southern poor whites in the south who vote on race, look at Georgia last in education, top 3 in poverty and the poor whites still run and vote for Rep who dont care if they live or die, go figure””’”

Unlike the black people that voted for and will vote again for Obama because he’s….I don’t know….Blackish???

Doggone/GA

February 29th, 2012
8:41 am

“will vote again for Obama because he’s….I don’t know….Blackish???”

Oh sure, just like they voted for all those previous candidates…because they were…I don’t know…whitish?

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

February 29th, 2012
8:42 am

I understand that RINO tastes like chicken.

Or was that chicken hawk?

Joseph

February 29th, 2012
8:42 am

We’ve already tried fanaticism and willful ignorance with Obama. Now we need a real leader in the Whitehouse… Maybe you lefty fruitloops will get off the Santorum bashing now…

Willydoit?

February 29th, 2012
8:43 am

“Oh sure, just like they voted for all those previous candidates…because they were…I don’t know…whitish?”

Did they have another choice at the time???

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 29th, 2012
8:43 am

Speaking of killing and letting God sort them out…. I am sure all those death penalty fanatics are proud that Alabama is about to put to death a man after refusing to test the DNA that is part of the evidence (at no cost to the state) to determine conclusively if he is truly guilty. Apparently it is better to kill the man and save the “process” than to permit DNA evidence to possibly show his innocence.

But hey, remember how life is sacred! That is why Alabama has also toyed with the vaginal probe rape of its women at the same time.

Doggone/GA

February 29th, 2012
8:44 am

“Did they have another choice at the time???”

Maybe they felt the same this time too…no other choice.

ty webb

February 29th, 2012
8:44 am

Jay,
much better blog than the one you wrote yesterday. Romney had a good night. I believe he got more votes then he did in 2008 when he won MI.

Normal

February 29th, 2012
8:45 am

USinUK,
In all of my 65 years, I have never even been called…I wonder why that is? Heh, heh…

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
8:45 am

Keep: What case is that?

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
8:47 am

Keep – And it is stuff like that that causes me and others I know to not support the death penalty.

Normal

February 29th, 2012
8:48 am

Yep,
The death penalty is NOT pro life…just saying…

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 29th, 2012
8:49 am

TaxPayer

February 29th, 2012
8:51 am

“You always have a choice.” – Lisa Murkowski

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 29th, 2012
8:51 am

rational, I agree but the general conservative thought is anti-abortion, pro-death penalty.

carlosgvv

February 29th, 2012
8:51 am

Jay, if you want to do your civic duty and get on a jury, just say “I’m a 100% Rick Santorum man and he will be the best President in our history”. Attorneys love dirt dumb juriors and that should get you seated for sure.

TaxPayer

February 29th, 2012
8:52 am

The death penalty is NOT pro life…just saying…

The death penalty is pro-afterlife. You just gotta have faith.

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
8:53 am

carlos – Typically I don’t find your stuff amusing, but that was just down right funny.

Jay

February 29th, 2012
8:53 am

Yes Ty, he got more votes than in 2008, but his margin of victory was considerably smaller.

He beat McCain by 9 in ‘08; Santorum by 3 in 2012.

ty webb

February 29th, 2012
8:53 am

actually the death penalty is “pro-life”, 100% of the people who have been sentenced to die have not gone on to kill anyone after their sentence was carried out.

Oscar

February 29th, 2012
8:54 am

Now let’s hope Georiga will enter the modern age and go with Romney next Tuesday. There’s always hope.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
8:56 am

“100% of the people who have been sentenced to die have not gone on to kill anyone after their sentence was carried out.”

of course, it’s also been proven that 100% of the people who have been killed by the state were INNOCENT …

but, hey, details, schmetails …

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
8:56 am

sorry – that should have read that not 100% of the people who were killed by the state were GUILTY

you know what I mean …

326 more days

February 29th, 2012
8:57 am

JM, keep the faith, hang in there, only 326 more days

Fire Eric Holder, the worst AG since Janet Reno. How can someone in his appointed position continue to lie, oops I forgot, he is a Democrat and a lawyer

larry

February 29th, 2012
8:57 am

anti-choice, pro war, pro death penalty . That sounds about right

kayaker 71

February 29th, 2012
8:57 am

You liberals are stuck on the fact that first…. you must ultimately pick our candidate and second…. that all conservatives are religions right wing fanatics. Wrong and wrong. Moderates compromise with liberals to increase our debt, make us more dependent on foreign sources of energy, keep government the same same or larger……. mostly just RINOS who are interested in keeping their job. Granted, we will vote for most anyone that the party puts up there, just to get rid of Bozo but are we happy? Decidedly no. And BTW, if you believe that I am the only one who feels this way, you might remember what happened in the midterms. Someone got “shellacked” as I recall. It ain’t over yet.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 29th, 2012
8:58 am

100% of the people who have been sentenced to die have not gone on to kill anyone after their sentence was carried out.

Well under that silly theory, gunning down people in a mall or school is apparently an act of pro-life.

Oscar

February 29th, 2012
8:58 am

Death penalty being discussed. How did the board get there. Have not read all the comments to find out.
Don’t see any reason Georgia should have the death penalty. Too many innocent people have be convicted and executed. We can keep people in prison and if they are found to be innocent they can be released. No excuse to do otherwise.
Other arguments are the total cost of trying a death case, and the facts that in comparing murder rates with states that don’t have the death penatly, their rates are no higher that the states that do.
Time for it to be abolished in Georgia.

Brosephus - In Full Effect!!

February 29th, 2012
8:58 am

I kept making cut after cut for a death-penalty jury that was to be sequestered, from some 400 people down to 20 or so. On the final day I had to show up suitcase packed, ready for hotel confinement. Escaped, but barely.

Maybe those lawyers were conservatives and were secretly trying to keep you from spreading liberal propaganda. :)

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
8:58 am

“that all conservatives are religions right wing fanatics”

exactly WRONG.

we know that not all conservatives are right-wing lunatics … just the ones running your party.

larry

February 29th, 2012
8:59 am

anti-choice, pro war, pro death penalty . That sounds about right about a party that stopped making sense a long time ago.

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
8:59 am

ty webb – And what evidence do you have that 100% of the people that were put to death by the state deserved to die? Were guilty of the crime they were convicted of? Or had even committed a crime at all?

AmVet - “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means." ~Barry Goldwater

February 29th, 2012
9:00 am

Fanatics calling other people fanatics. Priceless.

Lemme guess, all of the neo-cons here who once fiercely labeled George of the Bungle as one of their own, i.e. a TRUE, REAL conservative of the highest caliber, now all mysteriously think he was a moderate.

You people are a total joke. You get that, don’t you? The world shakes it collective head at your vacillation and identity crisis. It is just a crying shame that you are so damn deadly with other people’s kids and the lives of innocent people.

Joseph McCarthy himself, brought back from the grave, would not even appease you rabid fake conservatives anymore. And the zombie Ronnie could come back and once again oversee the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of men, women and children, who are not our enemy, and you still wouldn’t be satisfied.

GFYs.

Somebody mentioned rocket launchers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7vCww3j2-w

Butch Cassidy

February 29th, 2012
9:00 am

Joseph – “Now we need a real leader in the Whitehouse”

I agree, I just wish the GOP would stop wasting time with the current batch of candidates and bring one forward.

Brosephus - In Full Effect!!

February 29th, 2012
9:01 am

Unlike the black people that voted for and will vote again for Obama because he’s….I don’t know….Blackish???

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ty webb

February 29th, 2012
9:01 am

Jay,
it’s funny to hear the talking heads of both sides kind of poo poo on Romney’s campaign. When he wins by a large margin, they compare his turnout to 2008 if it’s lower, in order to diminish it. All in attempt to drag this thing out longer.

larry

February 29th, 2012
9:02 am

make us more dependent on foreign sources of energy, and yet we are drilling more oil than ever before. Wonder where that oil is going to ?

China ? It is certainly not staying here.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
9:03 am

“China ? It is certainly not staying here.”

and India.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
9:03 am

Keep: From your second article: Judy Wickers statements disappeared from the records along with much of the physical evidence including the rape kit.

What are they going to test? Either way, the case sounds fishy. She changes her initial testimony to get out of jail? Really?

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
9:05 am

Joseph

February 29th, 2012
9:07 am

43% approval…

St Simons - we're on Island time & we Voted

February 29th, 2012
9:09 am

-weather report from Your golden isles-
those winds out of the northwest are the collective sigh of millions
(thousands) of Republicans, who narrowly staved off a broken
convention for 7 more days.

and the sun comes up on yet another day where there are more
progressives and fewer neocons, tick tock tick tock
(see, we use that “demographics” codeword too)

traffic – there’s a backup on the causeway where a seaturtle crossing
caused two hoverounds to crash & one oldsmobile to slow down.
Margaritta at eleven. (frothy) surf’s up.

Willydoit?

February 29th, 2012
9:11 am

DEATH to the moderates!!

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 29th, 2012
9:11 am

Fred, they apparently had DNA available in 2009 to prove that another man who “confessed” to the killing from prison was NOT the perp but yes it sounds like a case in which the “evidence” may not be what the state claims it is — and yet a man may die even though there is the DNA available to show another man did not commit the crime but the State will not permit that DNA to be used to determine if the man to be put to death for the crime actually may be innocent.

AmVet - “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means." ~Barry Goldwater

February 29th, 2012
9:13 am

Approval rating of Republicans in Congress: 21%

TaxPayer

February 29th, 2012
9:14 am

Republicans need to get behind someone more their speed. A more aged version of Santorum perhaps. Pat Buchanan sounds like their perfect candidate. There’s an old white guy that they could surely picture themselves sitting down and drinking a beer with.

Donovan

February 29th, 2012
9:15 am

The true translation of Jay Bookman’s essay is that you liberals are scared to death of Gingrich and Santorum. Call them extremists if you will, but they spell trouble for all of you if anyone of them get the nomination. Heaven forbid if anyone of them gets to be president. It will be the end of your Americanized looting of the system.

Romney and Snowe represent the moderate push-overs that you all feel comfortable with in your world of bully pulpit politics. Gingrich and Santorum represent the lightening rod of retribution that makes you libs uneasy.

No wonder Romney is your choice of red meat to try and beat.

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
9:15 am

St. Simons – Keep rubbing it in, and I’m going to figure out where you live and crash at your house for a while. I’ve got enough projects going on just across the bridge to justify me being down there for a day or two. :)

TaxPayer

February 29th, 2012
9:15 am

You mean the beauty queen?

Actually, I meant that you always have the choice to write in anyone you want.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
9:15 am

Keep up – if there ever was a perfect illustration for why I am vehemently against the death penalty … welp … your 9:11 pretty much sums it up.

Joseph

February 29th, 2012
9:17 am

AmVet – “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means.” ~Barry Goldwater

Approval rating of Republicans in Congress: 21%

The overall rating is 11%.. Using your logic that must mean dems are even lower…

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/congressional_job_approval-903.html

Joseph

February 29th, 2012
9:18 am

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
9:18 am

Donovan – Everyone who has a rational brain in their head is scared of Santorum and Gingrich. Not because we think they could beat Obama in the general election, but because we’re worried that they might. Those two are loons. But hey, you keep thinking what you want, and the rest of us will realize the truth.

Butch Cassidy

February 29th, 2012
9:18 am

Donovan – “you liberals are scared to death of Gingrich and Santorum.”

What’s so surprising about that? People have always been nervous when dealing with idiots and retards.

TaxPayer

February 29th, 2012
9:19 am

I don’t know why some Republicans are of the impression that liberals help pick their candidates. The Koch crooks and Friess and Adelson are NOT liberals. Honest.

AmVet - “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means." ~Barry Goldwater

February 29th, 2012
9:19 am

…scared to death of Gingrich and Santorum.

For the one hundred and forty third time, outrageous laughter is not synonymous with fear.

Call them extremists if you will…

Because they are. And even you fake conservatives know it.

Heaven forbid if anyone of them gets to be president. It will be the end of your Americanized looting of the system.

Riiight. Because NONE of that happened from 2000 – 2008. Or from 1980 – 1992.

You boys can run but you can’t hide. Your ideology is going the way of the archeopteryx…

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
9:20 am

Georgia ALMOST passes an ethics bill…………… well kinda. We won’t really need an ethics bill because they are going to post the 10 commandments everywhere………..

http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-bill-calls-for-1366416.html

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
9:21 am

Fred – Yeah, that’s not going to piss anyone off. This might be the South, but things have changed a bit.

Doggone/GA

February 29th, 2012
9:21 am

” you liberals are scared to death of Gingrich and Santorum. ”

We are indeed! Scared to death we’ll die laughing!

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
9:21 am

TaxPayer

February 29th, 2012
9:15 am

You mean the beauty queen?

Actually, I meant that you always have the choice to write in anyone you want.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Actually you meant you didn’t click the link or you would have gotten the damn joke lol.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 29th, 2012
9:21 am

USinUK…. absolutely

Fred – Only the rape kit disappeared which pertains to the witness and her lack of veracity

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
9:22 am

Joseph – 9:18 – you’re the only man I know who can read a tie as “WE WIN!!!”

Joseph

February 29th, 2012
9:23 am

The latest poll is +4… Don’t look like a tie to me..

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
9:23 am

Fred – 9:21 – very Katherine Hepburn in On Golden Pond … but without the charm … (you old poo)

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
9:23 am

Romney and Snowe represent the moderate push-overs that you all feel comfortable with in your world of bully pulpit politics. Gingrich and Santorum represent the lightening rod of retribution that makes you libs uneasy.

Funny that Liberals will work with Moderate Republicans but Republicans won’t work with Moderate Liberals. The Far Right wants to push their beliefs onto the entire population, yet one poster accuses liberals of practicing bully pulpit politics. Georgia had two Far Right GOP candidates speak at a Southern Baptist Church in the past few weeks, so anybody with common sense knows who’s really practicing the bully pulpit politics.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
9:24 am

Joseph – what part of 43-43 are you just not getting

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
9:25 am

“one poster accuses liberals of practicing bully pulpit politics”

my £££ is on them not understanding the meaning of the word “bully” in that phrase.

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
9:25 am

No Joseph, ONE of the last polls was +4, the average of all the polls was +0.02. Overall though, even +4 is within the margin of error for most polls like that, so yeah, it is basically a tie. Guess statistics wasn’t your strong suit. Don’t worry, it wasn’t mine either, but I’ve been able to work at it and learn a little about it since I graduated.

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
9:26 am

USinner

Sometimes I wonder if they even understand plain old English.

Jay

February 29th, 2012
9:26 am

“Funny that Liberals will work with Moderate Republicans but Republicans won’t work with Moderate Liberals.”

Shoot, Bro, Republicans can’t even bring themselves to work with moderate Republicans, let alone moderate liberals.

St Simons - we're on Island time & we Voted

February 29th, 2012
9:27 am

ir(R) – come on down, dude! Everything opens back up for da season
after Daytona. I’ve got a mtg in Atlanta tomorrow, perfect timing.

what’ll ya havvve! i want a nekkid dog runnin’ & a FO

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
9:27 am

Sorry USinUK I never saw On Golden Pond. Jane Fonda was in it.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 29th, 2012
9:27 am

I’ve lived in the same county in the metro area for 20 years, but never got called until 8 or 9 years ago. Now I’ve been called twice, and sat on a case each time. The second time I got called, I *almost* had to sit on a second case in the same week, but it appeared that the plaintiff and defendant settled (collision/whiplash kind of a case, from what we could tell).

I think it’s a worthwhile bit of public service and I don’t mind doing it at all.

AmVet - “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means." ~Barry Goldwater

February 29th, 2012
9:28 am

Nope, they are at 26%.

Obviously you cannot correlate sets of similar but different numbers to different questions.

It is the GOP members of congress who pull the overall average down.

But feel free to show me where the Democratic approval rating is lower than the GOP’s.

Good luck.

Butch Cassidy

February 29th, 2012
9:29 am

I was curious if any of the candidates have indicated how much of a tax cut we’ll need in order to invade Iran, build a moonbase, build the Keystone XL and lower the price of gas to $2.50 a gallon?

Joe Hussein Mama

February 29th, 2012
9:29 am

Donovan — “you liberals are scared to death of Gingrich and Santorum.”

I’m afraid of rabid dogs and snapping turtles, but I feel pretty safe in saying that they’re not going to get elected President, either.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
9:29 am

St. Simon’s: Got my islands wrong. I guess we are going to Hilton Head not St. Simons. Maybe by next vacation I’ll find someone with a condo or house on St. Simon’s that will let us stay there for free…….

Joseph

February 29th, 2012
9:30 am

AmVet – “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means.” ~Barry Goldwater

Here ya go…

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot

Joe Hussein Mama

February 29th, 2012
9:31 am

B. Cassidy — “I was curious if any of the candidates have indicated how much of a tax cut we’ll need in order to invade Iran, build a moonbase, build the Keystone XL and lower the price of gas to $2.50 a gallon?”

Why, none at all. I understand that Newt intends to sell corporate sponsorships and naming rights to fund the moonbase, and Santorum plans to ask jebus to miracle that there pipeline into existence and make gas free for everyone who lives in a red state.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
9:31 am

“Sorry USinUK I never saw On Golden Pond. Jane Fonda was in it.”

as was her pop, Henry

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
9:32 am

Jay

True. That’s why it always amazes me that these uber-Righties try to label Demcrats as bullies.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
9:32 am

Butch Cassidy

February 29th, 2012
9:29 am

I was curious if any of the candidates have indicated how much of a tax cut we’ll need in order to invade Iran, build a moonbase, build the Keystone XL and lower the price of gas to $2.50 a gallon?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dude, freaking CLASSIC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw9AeZ6YKXs

Butch Cassidy

February 29th, 2012
9:32 am

JHM – “I understand that Newt intends to sell corporate sponsorships and naming rights to fund the moonbase, and Santorum plans to ask jebus to miracle that there pipeline into existence and make gas free for everyone who lives in a red state.”

LOL, oh good, now I feel much better about voting Republican again.

AmVet - “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means." ~Barry Goldwater

February 29th, 2012
9:32 am

Republicans’ war on common sense

(CNN) — In politics, we’re all used to seeing various “cards” being played to fire up voters and gain the upper hand.

The most popular is the “race card,” but there are others in the deck, such as the “Jesus card,” the “gender card” and the “immigration card.”

But Newt Gingrich took the card game to a whole new level this past weekend when he whipped out the hardly used, rarely seen “George Washington card.”

That’s the problem with Gingrich and the other GOP challengers. It seems they have mistaken their base’s fervor to defeat Obama for a fervor to hear them pander.

Remember Gingrich’s moon base speech while he was campaigning near NASA? Or Mitt Romney quoting “America the Beautiful” while in Iowa, saying: “If you count corn as an amber wave of grain, why, you have them right here. What a wonderful place this is.”

Seriously, who says that?

The GOP’s once credible attacks on the president’s record have morphed into an incredible attack on the country’s intelligence.

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
9:33 am

St. Simons – Coming up on 9 years in Atlanta, and I’ve never been to the Varsity. How sad is that?

TaxPayer

February 29th, 2012
9:33 am

Gee Fred, you know that old saying about if you have to explain the joke…

Oscar

February 29th, 2012
9:34 am

Served as an alternate juror a few years ago on an armed robbery case. Guy was obviously guilty but some of the juors would not convict or even discuss the facts of the case. Jurors differ greatly in their opinions as to how much proof is needed to convict. Not a perfect system by any means.

kayaker 71

February 29th, 2012
9:35 am

“Romney’s victories much-needed on several counts”….. much need by whom? Certainly not by anyone but the Republican establishment and the limousine liberals inside the beltway who are not all too happy with Romney. Santorum and Newt represent more of a threat to Liberalville but are feared by the Robert Doles and the John McCains of the system……. all of the limousine liberals out there just feel that Romney will be Bozo lite and doesn’t represent much of a threat to the status quo, that is, keeping your job appearing to represent your constituency….. you know, all of that Constitutional stuff. Most of them don’t ruffle many feathers….. that might look like they have an opinion about something. Meanwhile, the average voter is “happy” with the selection of anyone who can stop this freight train into disaster that Bozo represents. Happy and satisfied have several definitions…. depends on who you are talking to.

Jim163

February 29th, 2012
9:35 am

“Funny that Liberals will work with Moderate Republicans but Republicans won’t work with Moderate Liberals.”

So not true there has been tons of work, especially on the medicare front with Ron Wyden.

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
9:36 am

Butch and Fred

They’re not gonna use any tax cuts. The new GOP thing is to make federal workes pay for it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/union-lists-gop-initiatives-to-make-federal-workers-pay/2012/02/28/gIQAX1Y4gR_story.html

AmVet - “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means." ~Barry Goldwater

February 29th, 2012
9:36 am

WRONG answer to the WRONG question, Joseph.

Think about it, you’ll figure it out.

(Giveaway hint, it has something to do with approval ratings. Duh.)

Oscar

February 29th, 2012
9:37 am

(ir)Rational

_____________

Been going to the Varsity since 1955. Love the food. Where do you go to get your supple of grease. Known fact that you need some in your diet to keep your joints moving.

Butch Cassidy

February 29th, 2012
9:37 am

kayaker 71 -”limousine liberals ”

Okay, I have to write that one down. I’ll put it in my scrapbook next to Newts accusation that New Yorkers are elites that live in high rises and ride the subway. :)

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
9:38 am

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
9:31 am

“Sorry USinUK I never saw On Golden Pond. Jane Fonda was in it.”

as was her pop, Henry
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yup. as well as Katherine and Dabney Coleman. Unfortunately Jane was in it so I won’t watch it. You could ask my old neighbor why, but he isn’t around anymore.

http://www.b66.info/bios/TomSterling.htm

Bill Orvis White

February 29th, 2012
9:38 am

Snowe and Lugar have despicable RINO records so WE THE PEOPLE say good riddance.

Now, with the honorable Willard “Mitt” Romney’s victories, it looks like He will most likely capture the GOP nomination. With that fact clearly laid out here on this lefty blog, it is without question that there WILL BE UNITY in Governor Romney’s quest towards the Oval Office.

Do not listen to the far left liberal media which is desperately trying to tell everyone that we are not getting along in the rightful Republican Party. WRONG! WE ARE UNITED! You will see how well orgazined WE are at the convention.

Amen,
Bill

Joseph

February 29th, 2012
9:39 am

AmVet – “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means.” ~Barry Goldwater:

I dissapprove of the way Congress is doing its job… That certainly don’t mean I would be stupid enough to vote for a dem. Voters still trust Republicans more than dems to be in control of Congress… Its that simple…. You’ll figure it out…..

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
9:41 am

Oscar – Typically, I go home to get my supply of grease. Or Fellini’s. It isn’t my joints that get greased when I eat at places like that though, which is why I don’t eat at places like that very often.

Oscar

February 29th, 2012
9:41 am

I got it. Instead of the death penalty by electric chair or injection, only feed them chili dogs and fries from the Varsity. Won’t last out the year.

Paul

February 29th, 2012
9:42 am

“It’s hard to know where all this leads, but the sense continues to grow that we’re building toward something noted in the history books as an important political turning point. ”

A turning point… as in an aircraft carrier making a 180-degree turn. Takes a long time and churns a lot of water along the way. I’m still betting the “cited by many as confirmation that the Republican Party loses when it chooses moderation. What ought to serve as a warning sign about the political perils of extremism will instead be interpreted as a validation of extremism” crowd will hold influence for the next while.

“Shoot, Bro, Republicans can’t even bring themselves to work with moderate Republicans”

Because in their minds, ‘moderate Republican’ is an oxymoron, a denigration of purity. Look at this blog. Bloggers who for a long, long time have taken relatively moderate positions are assailed by the Republican Right with the ultimate epithet: ‘you’re a Democrat!! You’re a liberal!!!! You…. love Obama!!!!”

When saner minds pick up the pieces of the Party, I’m guessing one of the first things they do is support legislation for voluntary end of life in extreme medical circumstances. Watching this slow, agonizing death wreaking havoc on everything around it is almost too much to bear.

Doggone/GA

February 29th, 2012
9:43 am

“Coming up on 9 years in Atlanta, and I’ve never been to the Varsity. How sad is that?”

I can easily beat that. I’ve been here close to 45 years and never been there.

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
9:43 am

Oscar – The death penalty is expensive enough, do we really need to add in the extra costs of reinforced beds, new clothes, and extra health care?

Oscar

February 29th, 2012
9:44 am

(ir)Rational
_______

OK, but a trip there now and then is a good experience and good for the soul. Just don’t overdo it.

Paul

February 29th, 2012
9:44 am

Morning, Fred

Off topic followup: that mojo pork recipe – I’d put it in at about 250 and let it go for about 8 or 10 hours, covered, ’till it falls apart.

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
9:45 am

Doggone – I honestly thought I was the only one. Probably the only kid that went to Tech for 5 years and lived directly across the interstate for that long and never visited.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
9:46 am

criminey, Joseph –

even Rasmussen doesn’t support you on your 9:39

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/trust_on_issues

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
9:46 am

Paul – I realize my name isn’t Fred, but you’ve caught my interest. More details por favor.

carlosgvv

February 29th, 2012
9:47 am

Brosephus – 9:01

Some things just never change. I know you think I’ve said some outlandish things but this “Blackish” thing is just too much. I am an Obama voter, believe it or not. What concerns me is how many white voters will vote against Obama just because he’s black. I think much of this contest Romney, Gingrich and Santorum are having as who can be the most “conservative” is just code, if you know what I mean.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
9:47 am

Paul – 9:44 – huh? what? mojo pork recipe???

please, sir … to share?

JOE COOL

February 29th, 2012
9:47 am

“Moderate” is codeword for RINO…
Which means Dems like you, therefore the GOP hates ya

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
9:47 am

dammitall, Paul.

pulled pork and cold slaw sammich.

need.

NOW.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 29th, 2012
9:48 am

(ir)Rational — “Probably the only kid that went to Tech for 5 years and lived directly across the interstate for that long and never visited.”

I had been led to believe that the now-closed Junior’s was the eatery of choice for Tech students.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
9:49 am

Paul: If I did it on the egg, how about an hour or two uncovered to gain the smoke flavor, then rebaste and cover it for the rest?

St Simons - we're on Island time & we Voted

February 29th, 2012
9:49 am

Fred – Maybe by next vacation I’ll find someone with a condo or house on St. Simon’s that will let us stay there for free…….

Fred hey, clean up after my 5 kids (incl 3 emo teenagers), & maybe we can
work somp’n out

ir(R) – go, go, go – it’s da Food o the Gods mon
that and shrimp & grits

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
9:50 am

“shrimp & grits”

now, you’re making me miss Bosch and his cheesy shrimp grits. :-(

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
9:50 am

USinUK – Exactly. The Mrs. is out of town, therefore, I’m allowed to have pork. Don’t let me down Paul.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 29th, 2012
9:51 am

USinUK — “mojo pork recipe???”

Wife’s making Char Siu (Chinese sweet bbq pork) tomorrow. We have some thin, thin sliced pork loin — it’s going to get marinated in the sauce for about a day, and then I don’t know what her plan is. I think the pork’s too thin to be roasted, but I don’t know how the sauce would hold up to braising or pan-frying. No matter tho; she’ll surprise me like she always does. She messes up a meal maybe one time out of a hundred, and even then, it’s still well worth eating. :)

Oh, yes, and garlic sticky rice. She also claims to have a new method for getting some chipotle flavor into the rice, so we shall see how that turns out.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
9:52 am

On the Varsity thing; Been here 20 years and only eaten there once (maybe twice). However, if you want to talk about a communist ingrate……….

My wife was born and raised in Atlanta and has never left. She had NEVER been to a Waffle House though until I took her when we were dating……..

Joe Hussein Mama

February 29th, 2012
9:52 am

USinUK — “cheesy shrimp grits”

NOM NOM NOM

kayaker 71

February 29th, 2012
9:52 am

Reagan is the last true conservative to have won the presidency in recent history. You remember him, that guy that took 49 our of 50 states. The Republican establishment hated him, called him a B grade actor that ought to go back to Hollywood. The true liberal base also hated him for many reasons. But the true test was in the electorate…. they loved the guy, couldn’t get enough him as soon as he got the kinks out during his first term. The Republican establishment doesn’t want another Reagan….. to much of a threat to the status quo. Just like they don’t want a Newt or a Santorum. Jeb Bush? Possible attempt by the establishment base to thrown in a “acceptable” alternative to Romney. I think that the liberals feel, despite all of their bluster, that Bozo faces a real uphill battle for re-election. And people like Bookman in his proclamation that Romney is “much-needed” is testimony to that fact. Anyone but a true conservative…..

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
9:52 am

JHM – Thanks, now I want French Toast. They had the best French Toast of anyone. Big huge plate, enough to feed three normal people (one if it was during finals), for less than $5 with bacon and eggs. Man.

St. Simons – Yeah, I’m going to go with Shrimp and Grits as the food of the gods.

USinUK – Can you get grits in the UK?

Paul

February 29th, 2012
9:53 am

(ir)Rational

Obama’s Poker Instincts thread, 7:19pm reference foodtv dot com bobby flay’s mojo pork. Also note josef’s suggestion of Goya’s marinade.

Oscar

February 29th, 2012
9:53 am

Fred ™

_________

I hope she has been to the Hichory House or there is just no hope for her at all.

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
9:53 am

Fred – Now that’s just wrong.

Paul

February 29th, 2012
9:54 am

USinUK

“dammitall, Paul.

pulled pork and cold slaw sammich.

need.

NOW.”

Anytime you can hop a flight to Dallas, dearie -

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
9:54 am

Paul -Thank you.

Paul

February 29th, 2012
9:55 am

Fred

You know me, I’ll try all sorts of variations. Just because something isn’t traditional (like smoke flavor) does not mean it’s not good!

Hear that, Republicans?

Moon Mullins

February 29th, 2012
9:56 am

The Republican Party and their religious wing, the Southern Baptist Convention, are both in trouble but are terrible at correctly identifying the cause of their problems.

The GOTP thought they could swing into office on the wings of a bad economy and did everything possible in the House of Representatives to assure that would be the case, but it’s not happening.
So now Boehner has got to double down and build more fences and dig more ditches while their brain-trust awaits the emergence of a messianic candidate — a Captain America type whose political position is just to the right of Atilla the Hun.

I’m sure the Thank You notes are in the mail from Obama to the Republican National Committee.

Ivan

February 29th, 2012
9:58 am

2000 George W. Bush moderate won
2004 George W. Bush moderate won

GWB a moderate????????????????

Unf&ckingbelievable.”

Well, with his spending, he certainly wasn’t conservative.

They BOTH suck

February 29th, 2012
9:58 am

Kayaker

Oh yes I remember Reagan the true conservative….

The one who raised taxes several times. The one who oversaw noticeable growth in the Fed govt. The one who oversaw an increase in the deficit and debt……..

Many Republicans praise him now, but some of his policies would be ridiculed by many Republicans today

That conservative Reagan or are you speaking of another one?

Paul

February 29th, 2012
9:58 am

(ir)Rational

You’re welcome.

Hey all, notice how none of the cons broke in with “this is a political blog, dammit!!! You want to talk food, start your own damn blog!!!!”

Methinks it’s because they’re relieved we’re not speak of, as AmVet so colorfully puts it, their circular firing squad.

GT

February 29th, 2012
9:59 am

I am with you. Mitt is the only non union circus clown in the bunch. I wonder what a conversation must look like in the inner circle of RS or NG. It must sound like a drug enduced ego trip. What a great fictional movie this would make. Newt a West Georgia academic with social habits akin to a Russian dictator rehearsing his wife’s introduction speeches telling her to loosen up don’t look so severe you are scaring people. And RS who is going to out right any candidate one upping the KKK if he has too looking less like Jesus and more like a TV preacher with a Rolex every day. ‘Just send that money to the addresson your scene “.

The real examine needs to be the American people that vote for these fools. Maybe we are our own problem and we need to fix ourselves and worry a little less about Obama. Maybe we idiots that elect the surreal type should spend some time figuring ourselves out before we destroy at the least the two party system and at worst this country.

Stevie Ray

February 29th, 2012
9:59 am

JAY,

It’s good that Romney will likely be nominee in the event no others show up at 11th hour. Good for voters regardless of what colored kool-aid you prefer…

Did you see this…interesting ramnifications to chat about…

http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/100961/memo-Larry-Summers-Obama

stands for decibels

February 29th, 2012
10:01 am

For the record, I’ve served on a coupla civil case juries. Both very enlightening experiences; the first, we deliberated for just about as long as the trial had proceeded, and for the second, we only deliberated for a half hour and were told the parties had agreed to a settlement and we could all go home.

I imagine based on what I’ve heard from those I know who’ve served on criminal trials, that these are much more emotionally draining.

(I’ve also been called to the pool but never picked, which is a whole other source of entertainment.)

* * *

Mitt Romney quoting “America the Beautiful” while in Iowa, saying: “If you count corn as an amber wave of grain, why, you have them right here. What a wonderful place this is.”

AmVet, I don’t quite know why, but this, more than just about anything Mitt’s said to date, made me snort.

I haven’t heard it but I can imagine his faux-earnest, slightly breathy-sounding “I-want-to-engage-ordinary-folks” delivery with every syllable.

* * *

the only non union circus clown in the bunch.

that’s a keeper.

/drive-by

Joe Hussein Mama

February 29th, 2012
10:01 am

(ir)Rational — “JHM – Thanks, now I want French Toast. They had the best French Toast of anyone. Big huge plate, enough to feed three normal people (one if it was during finals), for less than $5 with bacon and eggs. Man.”

I’m not going to say where I went to school for any of my degrees, but every college town in the South seems to have a place like that. Ours was a little country place out in the sticks that served all you could eat for abour $6.50, including tax, three meals a day. The family that ran it also ran a supermarket, so they took advantage of their bulk supermarket pricing to hold their restaurant prices down. I turned my fraternity brothers on to the place and they enthusiastically patronized the joint after that.

We also had a little ice cream parlor just off campus with cheap, cheap prices. Homemade vanilla or chocolate ice cream sammiches for just a quarter, or any two for 40 cents. Of course, that was over 30 years ago, so I don’t expect they’re still selling at that price.

“USinUK – Can you get grits in the UK?”

Say ‘creamy polenta’ and they’ll understand what you mean.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
10:02 am

JHM – “Wife’s making Char Siu (Chinese sweet bbq pork) tomorrow.”

my hubby would throw me over for your wife … for that recipe alone.

Stevie Ray

February 29th, 2012
10:03 am

GT,

Interesting post. I don’t think it matters who is in WH or Congress since nothing will change until we get the cronyism, insider trading, lawlessness, and non-taxpayer campaign finance out of the picture. Either the spineless wonder will keep WH by making more promises he can’t keep relative to government reform et al or Romney will take WH by making promises relative to same plus tax policy he can’t keep. Help me understand how things can possibly change either way?

This post is getting boring relative to good debate. Perhaps that’s a testiment to the polarization of the big money and thus, amongst the far right and left sheep…

Oscar

February 29th, 2012
10:03 am

They BOTH suck

_____

In reality Regan was a FDR New Dealer and he never changed from that. Remember he said he didn’t leave them, they left him. That meant he was still a New Dealer and had never changed.
The actual RR and the myth created by the cons would never recognize each other. Poles apart.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
10:04 am

(ir) – you can’t get white grits, but you can get polenta … nomnomnom … hey, it works for cornbread, so I’m happy :-)

Paul – would LOVE to see you and Mrs. Paul again … not so much Dallas

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
10:04 am

JHM – I’ve never had polenta, so I didn’t know if it was a true substitute or not. I was only asking because the wife and I had talked about moving there in the past and I was wondering if I could survive or not. I guess my dad could always ship them over if I couldn’t find them though.

kayaker 71

February 29th, 2012
10:06 am

they Both suck,

Yeah, that same guy who brought down the Berlin wall and the Soviet Union and started, with his fiscal policies, the greatest financial recovery and boom that his nation has ever seen. Yeah, that guy.

St Simons - we're on Island time & we Voted

February 29th, 2012
10:09 am

a chili-cheese steak, 2 onion rangs (one’s not enough), an FO
and a side of shrimp & grits
with NO cheese. That’s a shortcut. Make the secret sauce, and
pour over the top along with andouille sausage.
Thas how the natives do it.

Romney/Tebow/Palin 2012, or
Jindal/Nikki Haley 2012 – would you call that the “outsource” ticket?

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
10:09 am

LOL Paul. It took me FOREVER to find the right thread and of course you beat me to it, I thought it was in that massive FNM thread. I had thought I copy/pasted it and put it in my recipe folder (have now dammit). Anyway (ir)/USinUK, if you are to lazy to go look let me know and I’ll post it here for you lol.

Oscar: We live literally right around the corner from one of the remaining OHH’s. We’ve been. :D

Normal

February 29th, 2012
10:10 am

CJ

February 29th, 2012
10:12 am

I do know that when the circus comes to town on March 6, the Georgia primary, I’m picking up a Republican ballot and voting for Mitt.

I’m opposed to open primaries, and I suggest letting the Republicans choose their own candidate.

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
10:13 am

Fred – It is probably just easier to Google “Bobby Flay Mojo Pork.” :)

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
10:13 am

Because in their minds, ‘moderate Republican’ is an oxymoron, a denigration of purity. Look at this blog. Bloggers who for a long, long time have taken relatively moderate positions are assailed by the Republican Right with the ultimate epithet: ‘you’re a Democrat!! You’re a liberal!!!! You…. love Obama!!!!”

This!!!!

Heisenberg

February 29th, 2012
10:14 am

I am a lifelong registered Republican voter who will be punching a straight Democratic ticket in the fall. I will vote for either Santorum or Gingrich in the primary (whichever one is polling higher). Kinda like that Amican Idol season where everyone was voting for Sanjaya.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 29th, 2012
10:14 am

USinUK — “my hubby would throw me over for your wife … for that recipe alone.”

I LOVE Char Siu, but we have never been able to replicate the color and flavor it really should have by using self-made sauces and marinades. Consequently, we’ve given up and now we just use a commercially-available sauce. But we do marinate the pork for at least a day before we cook it.

TaxPayer

February 29th, 2012
10:15 am

More bad news for the Republicans — the economy grew at a 3 percent pace in the 4th qtr. Poor Republicans just cannot get a break from the good news. How can they expect to win. :lol:

Butch Cassidy

February 29th, 2012
10:15 am

kayaker 71 – “brought down the Berlin wall and the Soviet Union”

Dude, seriously? I’m a Reagan Republican, and even I will call BS on him bringing down the Soviet Union. The USSR was already on life support due to it’s extended stay in Afghanistan and was ripe to fall. I will give Reagan credit for seizing the opportunity, but that is a far cry from him being solely responsible for the demise of the Soviets.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
10:15 am

“Anyway (ir)/USinUK, if you are to lazy to go look let me know and I’ll post it here for you lol.”

I have always been dependent upon the kindness of Bookmaniacs …

post, pleez!!! :-)

Mr. Right

February 29th, 2012
10:15 am

Yesterday, Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine announced her retirement, stripping the GOP and the country of one of the last remaining moderate voices in the party, a voice that in truth had already been all but silenced.

Yea Jay, to you liberal is moderate!

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
10:16 am

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
10:13 am

Fred – It is probably just easier to Google “Bobby Flay Mojo Pork
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

That won’t get you Paul’s tweaks to the recipe lol.

GT

February 29th, 2012
10:16 am

The best punch line of the campaign has been 2.50 a gallon gas. “And sex for anyone that votes for me “

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
10:17 am

Fred – There is that. So yeah, what she said. (Possibly the first time in years I said that and didn’t mean it as a joke/in a dirty way.

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
10:18 am

Butch @ 10:15

If you haven’t already found out, this place here is ground zero for revisionist history lessons.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 29th, 2012
10:18 am

Yea Jay, to you liberal is moderate

Ahhh the bi-polar world…. if you are not a rabid foaming at the mouth conservative, why then you must be a liberal! Its a simple bright line test.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
10:18 am

Joe Hussein Mama

February 29th, 2012
10:14 am
++++++++++++++++++++++++

If you like AUTHENTIC Chinese food, you need to go to Peter Chang’s Tasty 2.

http://www.tastychina-2.com/index.php

Butch Cassidy

February 29th, 2012
10:20 am

GT – “The best punch line of the campaign has been 2.50 a gallon gas.”

Actually it makes sense. Once the moonbase is operational, there won’t be a need for gas powered transportation in the zero grav environment. The reduction in demand alone would cause prices to plummet until you could actually achieve $2.50 a gallon. It’s a brilliant plan, and only Newt could imagine it. :)

josef

February 29th, 2012
10:20 am

The good news is Romney won Michigan and Arizona.
The bad news is Romney is what’s passing for sane and rational in GOP circles…
******
Mojo…great for leftovers, too…

St Simon’s

“Jindal/Nikki Haley 2012 – would you call that the “outsource” ticket?”

Well, they ARE Indians, ya’ know, and “native” Americans, too. Got the long forms to prove it…but I wanna see the CDIB card, m’self… :-)

Did you see where Chatah Industries shipped some 2000 jobs offshore? :-) Turned out when called on the carpet for it, they were able to show that before they did they had retrained all 2000 domestic employees in higher paying, more skilled positions here…

Paul

February 29th, 2012
10:20 am

USinUK

“Paul – would LOVE to see you and Mrs. Paul again … not so much Dallas”

Ditto!

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
10:22 am

(ir) and USinUK: it’s this : http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/bobby-flay/mojo-marinated-pork-recipe/index.html

(bobby flay’s recipe) changed as follows:

Okay, I seem to remember I didn’t buy a bunch of citrus and juice it (would’ve done so when I lived in Florida ’cause they practically give the stuff away) – probably used Florida Naturals not from concentrate. And a frozen lime juice, no sucrose, reconstituted.

I tried it a couple of ways (marinate in just oil and oregano or with the orange juice reduction) then found his Throwdown cookbook, which didn’t clarify. So I settled on this.

I concentrated on working the garlic into the slashes but didn’t worry about where else it went. It’s not like recipes where you insert a garlic slice into a slit.

After rubbing the pork with the olive oil and 1/4C oregano (I used a pork butt, not the shoulder, and didn’t trim the excess fat ’cause there isn’t much external excess) I added the other oregano into the orange juice/lime juice mix, got a gallon or two gallon ziploc bag and put the pork in that and poured in the orange juice/lime juice mixture that’d been reduced. and let it marinate the max time.

Then I used that marinade to baste it.

Not many people thought the plantains were worth the effort. You can find some pretty good fried plantains in the frozen section of a lot of markets that are good and more consistent then the fresh ones.

The dipping sauce got mixed reviews. Try it and see what you think.

Also, cook at 250 covered for 8-10 hours.

josef

February 29th, 2012
10:22 am

irRational

For your first shot at Mojo, don’t be afraid to try out the bottled marinade from Goya and follow the directions…you can tweak it later to taste as per Paul’s suggestions…

Common Sense

February 29th, 2012
10:22 am

Orrin Hatch? The same guy that went against the wishes of his constituents and voted against the impeachment of Clinton?

Yes that is indeed impeccable conservatism.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
10:25 am

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
10:18 am

Butch @ 10:15

If you haven’t already found out, this place here is ground zero for revisionist history lessons.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Not really Bro, there is a lot to be said for that theory. Sure the Russians were weakened by Afghanistan (something maybe W should have learned from), but that’s not just it. They had spent and spent on the cold war theory that their massed armor attacks would sweep away our military if need be in Europe. Then the first Gulf war came and they saw first hand how ineffective both their tactics AND their equipment was against us despite the fact they had bankrupted themselves providing it.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

February 29th, 2012
10:26 am

Murdoch out at News Corp.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
10:26 am

““And sex for anyone that votes for me “”

was that Cain’s campaign promise???

Joe Hussein Mama

February 29th, 2012
10:27 am

Fred — “If you like AUTHENTIC Chinese food, you need to go to Peter Chang’s Tasty 2.”

I know just where that is, but it got a HORRIBLE health department rating shortly after it opened and I haven’t even considered going.

http://ga.state.gegov.com/_templates/87/Food/_report_full.cfm?fsimID=1509843&domainID=87&rtype=food

Despite the things I dislike about Georgia, that is one thing the state does right — requiring eating establishments to post their latest health inspection form right where customers can see it — both inside the restaurant and also on the drive-thru window (for fast-food places).

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
10:28 am

Fred – YOWZA … that looks so incredibly YUMMY!!!

Steve

February 29th, 2012
10:29 am

Romney/Rubio would definitely get my vote in 2012!!

Obama is really hurting me with high gas prices and I am fearful of the deficit that he is growing at record levels. With unemployment at 9% and Iran about to go nuclear…we need a change.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
10:30 am

JHM – if you ever find yourself in London, go south of the city to Purley and visit Wing Yip – any given day, you’re in the minority in that restaurant and the food is outrageously good … and reasonable!

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
10:30 am

GG – 10:26 – so, his son is supposedly out … he’s out … who’s running the store?

(and WSJ – I’m sure you’re SO glad you sold to him … well doneski!)

They BOTH suck

February 29th, 2012
10:30 am

Kayaker

“that same guy who brought down the Berlin wall and the Soviet Union”

I love how you Reagan fans seem to think that the Soviet Union was an economic juggernaut ready to take over the world in 1981. While Reagan does deserve credit, the reality is that they were already in financial poo poo and Reagan assisted in exhilarating the inevitable. But he does deserve credit.

“the greatest financial recovery and boom that his nation has ever seen.”

If you think that the WH is the main catalyst for the economy, would you like to compare Reagan and Clinton’s numbers? For that matter even with the current economy, I will compare the DOW, S&P, job growth, GDP growth, income increases realized within the lower and middle classes over the last 50 or 60 yrs if you like……

Of course, the WH plays only a part in the economy, but if you want to play the R and D game when it comes to the economy…………… Let me know

St Simons - we're on Island time & we Voted

February 29th, 2012
10:32 am

josef, the Creeks are invading N Ga again tomorrow.
an army of one – headed to the Varsity – oh, & a state mtg too
armed with a sharp object (pencil)

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
10:32 am

Fred

You misread my post. I wasn’t accusing Butch of that. I was trying to explain to him that it is almost futile to try to correct the vast revisions that have been made in American History over the past 30 years.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
10:33 am

Fred – I’ve also recently bought License to Grill and Barbecue Bible …

can’t wait for summer :-)

(and, no, they do NOT know how to do barbecue here in the UK … they slap a few sausages on the grill and call it barbecue … talk about WRONG)

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
10:33 am

Joe Hussein Mama

February 29th, 2012
10:27 am
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Yet their score before that was a perfect 100%? The “health inspection” is much like an OSHA inspection, you piss off the inspector (read, don’t majorly kiss their ass) and you are screwed. Funny how I can find no follow up score…………

Joe Hussein Mama

February 29th, 2012
10:35 am

USinUK — “visit Wing Yip – any given day, you’re in the minority in that restaurant and the food is outrageously good … and reasonable!”

Always good advice when looking for good ethnic food — follow the people who look like they might actually come from the place that the cuisine hails from. They’ll know what’s good. :)

Becky

February 29th, 2012
10:36 am

Fred-all newly opened restaurants begin with a perfect score of 100. Personally, I will not patronize any eatery with an inspection below 90.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
10:36 am

US in UK:
People not from the south, think BBQ means cook out,
And that’s something they’re wrong about.

BBQ is NOT a verb, and BBQ is NOT a grill. BBQ is MEAT prepared in a very special way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ubTQfr_tyY

Paul

February 29th, 2012
10:36 am

Common Sense

“Orrin Hatch? The same guy that went against the wishes of his constituents and voted against the impeachment of Clinton?

Yes that is indeed impeccable conservatism.”

This from the party that assailed Pres Clinton for polling before he decided what to do?

If you get into the opposing arguments – “Representatives are elected to go to Washington and work for what they see as best” vs “Representatives are bound by their constituency on every vote and need to constantly ask them what to do” I think you’ll be surprised. Especially in light of the thoughts of Founding Fathers and constitutional scholars.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 29th, 2012
10:38 am

Fred — “Yet their score before that was a perfect 100%? The “health inspection” is much like an OSHA inspection, you piss off the inspector (read, don’t majorly kiss their ass) and you are screwed. Funny how I can find no follow up score…………”

Given what my dad does for a living (Professor of Agriculture, PhD in Microbiology), it was drilled into my head from a young age not to mess around with food safety. My dad’s pretty anal about it, but one habit I’ve picked up from him is to not give a bad rating a second chance.

That said, I can drop in on the place and see what their *current* rating is. As I said, I know right where it is, and it’s barely even out of my way. Shall I check in on them?

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 29th, 2012
10:39 am

Granny… that is news even if it is only James and not Rupert. The story keeps growing.

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
10:40 am

Thanks Fred.

josef – Thanks for the advice, but I’m too stubborn to do anything the “easy” way the first time. I grew up in a restaurant, and started doing prep work for my dad and granddad when I was about 7 or 8, so I’m pretty comfortable in the kitchen.

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
10:42 am

JHM – You know that’s right.

Doggone/GA

February 29th, 2012
10:42 am

“The same guy that went against the wishes of his constituents ”

Elected officials are not there to rubber-stamp the “wishes” of their constituents. It’s up to the voters to vote for someone who agrees with them, but even then, the politician is not obligated to do so.

josef

February 29th, 2012
10:42 am

St Simon’s

The in resident Cherokee says he’ll meet ya there for “peace talks!”

And to the rest of us, “Aw, what do y’all u-ne-ga know from barbecue….the only contribution y’all ever made was the swine…thanks, though,,,some good eats…”

******
As for “good Chinese…” Rule of thumb, get to know the owner. We used to have a great place around here, the Rice Bowl. The guy who owned it appreciated his regulars. Went one night and he met us at the door, “oh, no, you don’t want to eat here today. Bad cook. Firing him at the end of the shift.” Right behind us was an unknown, uppity Buckhead yuppie couple, “come on in, come on in…”

Joe Hussein Mama

February 29th, 2012
10:43 am

Fred — “BBQ is NOT a verb, and BBQ is NOT a grill. BBQ is MEAT prepared in a very special way.”

There is, in fact, a USDA definition of barbecue, which describes it as a method of slowly cooking meat over hot wood coals in order to impart smoke flavor to the meat and to caramelize sugars that are present in sauces or marinades used on the meat.

The things you learn, being an Ag professor’s kid. :)

MiltonMan

February 29th, 2012
10:43 am

Funny to see the libs in full froth mode this morning. Predicting the demise of the GOP??? You clowns need to look no further than GA where the libs are broke and the reps have added another US House seat in the 14th district.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
10:45 am

Well I think I’m going to have either some borscht of the recipe below for supper

http://redskitchendiaries.wordpress.com/2012/01/08/roasted-beet-soup/

Normal

February 29th, 2012
10:46 am

MiltonMan

February 29th, 2012
10:43 am

Yeah, and we all see how good that was for us…

Joe Hussein Mama

February 29th, 2012
10:47 am

MiltonMan — “Funny to see the libs in full froth mode this morning.”

We’re talking about food here, Champ. You want to act like an adult and join in on that?

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
10:47 am

Fred – The very first thing I learned about BBQ, is that it can’t be done in one day. Well, I guess I should modify it to, if you want to eat it for dinner, you better get up well before morning.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
10:47 am

“Funny to see the libs in full froth mode this morning”

discussion about barbecue will do that.

They BOTH suck

February 29th, 2012
10:48 am

USinUK @ 10:47

That was hilarious

josef

February 29th, 2012
10:49 am

irRational

I’m of the Paula Dean school…nothing wrong with a can of mushroom soup!

Having grown up leaning to cook from grannies in the kitchen, I’m a pinch of this and a dash of that kind of person.

The key ingredient, though, is love…I don’t care what the ingredients are, what the recipe is or how good the cook is, the mood will determine the outcome…

Butch Cassidy

February 29th, 2012
10:51 am

MiltonMan – “Funny to see the libs in full froth mode this morning.”

This is “froth”?

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
10:53 am

Funny to see the libs in full froth mode this morning. Predicting the demise of the GOP???

And, should I make this out to MiltonMan as one name or two???

http://whoisamy.com/images/RealityCheck_missionamykr.jpg

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
10:54 am

JHM: Swing by and see what you find on the door. As someone who has been in a place getting inspected, (and I wasn’t working there OR friends with the owner) I was shocked by the high handed bullying of the “inspector.” I have BIG ears. At the end, the “failing score” and inspection sheet disappeared for what looked to me to be about 100 bucks.

I haven’t paid much attention to the inspections since then………..

TaxPayer

February 29th, 2012
10:55 am

Funny to see the libs in full froth mode this morning.

Extreme laughter at flailing Republicans is the most likely root cause.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 29th, 2012
10:56 am

Fred — “JHM: Swing by and see what you find on the door.”

Will do. Either tonight or tomorrow, so long as it isn’t pouring rain.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 29th, 2012
10:57 am

Bro, is that check to be cashed as the A. R. Sebank? as in “your mouth is writing checks….”

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
10:57 am

Milton Man makes less sense this morning than usual. But he DOES however prove one thing. He doesn’t read anything printed here, he just drives by and drops either his neal boortz quote of the morning or some other generic canned GOP bumper sticker statement.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
10:58 am

Good to see Barry up in Detroit yesterday celebrating with his union goons as the city around them continues to crumble from years of democratic rule.

stands for decibels

February 29th, 2012
10:59 am

Yes that is indeed impeccable conservatism.

Common Sense, I would think that principled conservatives wouldn’t go along with something so radical as to dumb down the Founders’ notion of “high crimes and misdemeanors” to now mean “lying to somebody important about bj,” something that, presumably, other Presidents have done in the past without bringing our Republic to its knees [insert fifth-grader’s joke here].

* * *
Always good advice when looking for good ethnic food — follow the people who look like they might actually come from the place that the cuisine hails from.

Mr. Mama, yes, that is a reasonably safe rule of thumb.

Now, the converse shouldn’t be necessarily true—I think *any* ethnic group can master and/or appreciate *any* kind of cuisine. Or credibly play/become-fans-of any kind of music, for that (semi-related) matter.

But I admit I get a little nervous if I’m in an Indian joint for the first time, and the only elegantly-accented English I’m hearing is from the hired staff.

* * *
Rule of thumb, get to know the owner.

Well, yeah, Josef, that’s ideal! (and per usual, you’ve got a great supporting anecdote to share.)

Not so easy if you’re on a road trip, though.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
10:59 am

imbo

February 29th, 2012
10:58 am

Good to see Barry up in Detroit yesterday celebrating with his union goons as the city around them continues to crumble from years of democratic rule.
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Hmmmmmmmm wonder what Neal is talking about this morning? Or is he still on vacation and that wannabe is on………

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
11:00 am

oh, and Fred – you’re absolutely right about BBQ is a noun, not a verb … which is why I like both the Barbecue Bible and License to Grill – they both open with that very point.

and, while I’m thinking about it … there’s a great BBQ joint in Marietta on Roswell Road across from Harry’s … can’t remember the name of it, but boy-howdy could I wallow in their pulled pork and slaw …

Paul

February 29th, 2012
11:00 am

MiltonMan

“Predicting the demise of the GOP??? You clowns need to look no further than GA” where Newt’s gonna win the primary. If that’s not indicative of the GOP’s demise, nothing is.

Fred – Great BBQ youtube! Thanks!

ByteMe - Liberal Thug

February 29th, 2012
11:00 am

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
11:01 am

Well once again I nailed that crap (again). Thanks for sharing the boortz show with us timbo…………. drop by sometime if you ever have an ORIGINAL THOUGHT in your tiny little mind………

http://www.boortz.com/weblogs/nealz-nuze/2012/feb/29/obama-panders-uaw-talks-greed/

Ronin

February 29th, 2012
11:03 am

While I’m no fan of the Obam-nation, Romney’s “victories” are a moot point. He’ll win the GOP nomination, but lose by at least 4 points in November.

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
11:03 am

Keep Up

That’s the primary bank it’s drawn on, but it can be cashed anywhere. :)

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
11:04 am

USinUK: When you get back you need to check out 2 places that have opened since you left. Fox brothers and Community Q. They are both really awesome. What’s funny is that the AJC tries to make a “feud” between them, but the owners are best friends. I have had the owners of BOTH places tell me, “If you like ours, you’ll like theirs. We do it just about the same. I know we’ve been friends for X years.”

But to be honest, since i got my green egg, I just make my own anymore.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
11:05 am

Fred – woohooo!!! where are they?

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
11:06 am

Fred

Now why did you have to go and expose the talking points bulletin for the day??? That’s playing dirty… :)

TaxPayer

February 29th, 2012
11:08 am

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
11:09 am

joseph – I learned to cook a lot of things that way. Depending on where the recipe comes from (oddly enough, if it is from my grandmother it is more likely to have actual measurements than from my dad or granddad) depends on what type of measurements it has. And then there are the “secret” family recipes that we don’t share with anyone. I remember when I was about 15 or 16, my grandparents had “retired” (meaning they sold their restaurant and bought a country store with a diner that only served breakfast and lunch) and there were a lot of Hispanics that came in from the mills around for their lunch. Well, apparently, one of them got tired of my granddad doing an “injustice” to chili, so he stopped by one Saturday and taught us how to make chili. After that, we had to have one pot of chili for the Americans and one for the Hispanics cause it was just about hot enough to melt the pot we cooked it in. I forgot that recipe when I went to college, as I didn’t see much point in remembering how to cook something I couldn’t hardly breath around, but then my granddad made it for the family (with about 1/3 of the peppers) and it was really good.

Becky

February 29th, 2012
11:09 am

Fred-I have never been to Fox Bros. but I have to tell you I make better Q in my slow cooker than Community Q.

The absolute best bbq is Hickory House at Northlake, That is the only location I know remains.

ken

February 29th, 2012
11:09 am

For Democrats, it will be the same result as 2010. The same people wiil be voting !!!!

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
11:11 am

by the way … has everyone made up their mind about today???

is it LEAP?

or is it HUMP??

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
11:11 am

USinUK – That would be Williamson Brothers. And yes, it is still good. Fat Matt’s is one of my favorites, and Colonel Pool’s up in Ellijay.

Guy Incognito

February 29th, 2012
11:11 am

Fred

You’ve gotta get OTP. Grand Champion Q in Rosietta (Roswell/Marietta – Johnson Ferry and Shallowford) is unbelievable! They won both of the ajc polls, readers’ and critics’

A dry rub that will make you cry it’s sooooooooooo tasty, you don’t need sauce

Oh and i just saw N. Korea is giving up its Nuke Program. Even I will give the diplomats (under Obama) credit for a good job……….if it turns out to be true

DawgDad

February 29th, 2012
11:11 am

“I do know that when the circus comes to town on March 6, the Georgia primary, I’m picking up a Republican ballot and voting for MItt.

In your heart, you know that’s right.”

In my heart I know what you’re doing is quite “wrong”, though legal.

josef

February 29th, 2012
11:12 am

SFD

Yep. That stranger in a strange land and having the munchies…but with a little sense of adventure you can get some good eats. The name can tell you a lot…best barbecue I ever had was at this roadside tumble down place on 78 outside Kansas, Alabama…And the best Chinese? A railroad workers cafe in Dublin, Ireland…had to admit though that the side order of chips was a bit of an eye-brow raiser…!

Treating the wait staff with a little respect helps…when we were in college up in the Northwest we heard that a Cajun Place (this was before it was chic) had opened in Seattle. We took off down there and went. It was a bit ferny which should have told us something, but, well, homesick is homesick. We ordered, the meal came and try as we might, we just couldn’t choke the bland stuff down. The waiter came and asked if “there was a problem…” Unmentionable, ever the gentleman, says, “well, forgive us, but it’s a bit mild.” “Where y’all from?” We told him, he shook his head, “L-rd how could you eat as much as you did! You should have said so. Hold on.” He came back with plates of what the owners had in the kitchen for the natives! Good eats!

Paul

February 29th, 2012
11:12 am

USinUK

“is it LEAP?

or is it HUMP??”

Against my better judgment…

I think you do one so you can do the other……

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
11:12 am

For Democrats, it will be the same result as 2010. The same people wiil be voting !!!!

Somebody doesn’t realize that midterm elections do not have half the voter turnout that presidential elections draw. The dumbing down of America is still in progress…

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
11:12 am

USinUk – I say both. It’s more fun that way. ;)

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
11:14 am

“nd yes, it is still good. Fat Matt’s is one of my favorites”

NOM … used to live in Morningside – GREAT BBQ

josef

February 29th, 2012
11:15 am

SFD

Forgot to say the name! Hawg Butt! :-)

They BOTH suck

February 29th, 2012
11:15 am

Ken

“For Democrats, it will be the same result as 2010. The same people wiil be voting !!!!”

Actually not true……….. The mid terms never have the same percentage of the electorate come out as the general.

The Republicans did a great job of capitalizing on the economy and no Obama on the ticket………..

There will be significantly more voters in November than in 2012. Doesn’t automatically equate to an Obama win, however the electorate make up this November will not be the same as in 2010.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
11:16 am

USinUK: The Community Q is on Clairmont almost at N. Decatur Road. Fox Bros. is on Dekalb Ave near Moreland, (little 5 points kind of).

Becky: I don’t know if i’ve eaten the BBQ there lol although that location is just around the corner for me. Here is the only other location left….

Old Hickory House
5490 Chamblee – Dunwoody Road
Dunwoody, Georgia 30338
Phone: (770) 671-8185

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
11:16 am

In my heart I know what you’re doing is quite “wrong”, though legal.

How is what Jay’s doing considered “wrong”? Open primary means O-P-E-N. In Georgia, if you register as an independent, your primary does not exist. I don’t recall the right to vote being limited in any fashion to party specific voting. If memory serves me right, some of the Founding Fathers warned about party politics.

Becky

February 29th, 2012
11:17 am

The major draw in voting in Tuesday’s primary is voting for Sunday liquor sales!! Yee haw!!!!

The chance to keep the clown car rolling is just a bonus.

They BOTH suck

February 29th, 2012
11:17 am

Bro @ 11:12

You beat me to it………… Wonder if that is what talking radio is telling people or are they assuming that on their own?

Either way………….. “The dumbing down of America is still in progress…”

Becky

February 29th, 2012
11:17 am

Fred-go try it. You will swoon. Trust me.

USinUK

February 29th, 2012
11:19 am

Fred – “USinUK: The Community Q is on Clairmont almost at N. Decatur Road. Fox Bros. is on Dekalb Ave near Moreland, (little 5 points kind of).”

mmmm … you are so my hero! will have to make a trip when I’m home for my annual pilgrimmage

0311/1811

February 29th, 2012
11:22 am

“It helps no one to have one of our major political parties take a headlong plunge into fanaticism and willful ignorance.”

YOU MEAN OBAMA?

Couldn’t have said it better myself Jay.

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
11:22 am

They BOTH

I’m not sure. Either way, the future of this country is in serious jeopardy if the younger people are absorbing and entertaining this mentality.

Bruno

February 29th, 2012
11:22 am

It helps no one to have one of our major political parties take a headlong plunge into fanaticism and willful ignorance. That’s what the nomination of either Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum would represent.

Jay–Your opinion of the Republicans as a far-left journalist has been noted. Now, would you like MY opinion of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc?? Probably just as valuable as your opinion, no??

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
11:24 am

Becky

February 29th, 2012
11:17 am

Fred-go try it. You will swoon. Trust me.
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You know my answer in an hour Becky lol. I’m gonna go right now. If it’s bad I’m blaming you. :lol:

Pulled pork ok? I don’t feel like ribs………

josef

February 29th, 2012
11:25 am

So much for peace and harmony…upstairs…abortion…

They BOTH suck

February 29th, 2012
11:25 am

Bro

Regardless of age, if you are just absorbing and regurgitating right or left wing talking points with no research or willingness to listen or read other sources………… yes we will continue to trend in a not so good way as a nation

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
11:25 am

Scout

Any particular reason you didn’t rant about Santorum or Gingrich speaking at First Redeemer like you did when Valerie Jarrett spoke at Ebenezer Baptist? Or is it ok for Republicans to “campaign” at churches while Democratic Party members closely associated with a candidate are not allowed to speak at churches?

Bruno

February 29th, 2012
11:26 am

I have a question: just what, exactly, is the conservative agenda?

Midori–I would say the top priority now is to get the budget back under control. In case you haven’t been tracking, we’re heading toward a Greece-type financial implosion. Obama’s budget this year calls for $38,000 in spending on a $29,000 income. And there’s already $153,000 on the credit card. Does this concern you at all, or are you simply happy if your guys win??

ByteMe - Liberal Thug

February 29th, 2012
11:26 am

Bruno, do let us know when Pelosi and Reid run for a national office. Just the same as Bachmann turned out to be a local problem that no one else wanted….

Meanwhile, Obama won a national election. Means that more people wanted what he offered than what the cranky old guy yelling “get the hell off my lawn” and Caribou Barbie (don’t forget her!) were offering.

Let us know when the frothy guy or the guy auditioning his next wife or even the guy who has a wife who drives two cadillacs are elected to a nationwide office.

They BOTH suck

February 29th, 2012
11:26 am

Bruno

Let’s hear them……….. Post here as many right leaning bloggers do daily or start a blog……..

The floor is yours

Becky

February 29th, 2012
11:27 am

Fred-I get the outside pork, that is where all the flavor it. Go for the lunch plate with brunswick stew and cole slaw. My mouth is watering.

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
11:28 am

They BOTH

Agreed!! That’s why I’m always reading the news. I don’t really care for any of the opinionalism shows on tv, but I will visit most major news outlets every day to skim over the news. I’ll even venture through different blogs if there’s something big in the news.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
11:28 am

They BOTH suck

February 29th, 2012
11:25 am

Bro

Regardless of age, if you are just absorbing and regurgitating right or left wing talking points with no research or willingness to listen or read other sources………… yes we will continue to trend in a not so good way as a nation
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And that is SO what people are doing. Look at the righties here. And look at Adam (bless his heart) or some of the other hard lefties.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 29th, 2012
11:30 am

Well, we got this election in the bag. When I seen that 10% of the people voting in the Republican primary in Michigan were librul Democrats I said to myself, you know, even the librul Democrats are fed up with Obama. So even if Obama has a 20-point lead over Mr. Mormon Underpants among Independents, the Democrats that will vote Republican will make up for that.

It sure will be nice to have a Republican and God back in the White House, Obamacare gone, and Those People cut off from their welfare. And putting the old geezers back to work after we cut their SS is bound to help employment. Heck, there might could be somebody at the door of WalMart to tell me where things are. Things is looking up!

Have a good Hump Day everybody.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
11:30 am

Bruno

February 29th, 2012
11:22 am

Now, would you like MY opinion of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc??
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I’d like to hear yours of Obama (if you can be objective). i don’t care what you think of Reid and Pelosi. I doubt your “opinion” of those two jackasses is anywhere near as bad as mine lol.

(ir)Rational

February 29th, 2012
11:33 am

Have to say, the best pork BBQ I ever got was at a gas station, in the “black section” of Summerville, GA. Guy used to set up there on Friday afternoons and sell BBQ starting around lunch Saturday until he ran out (which would be around an hour or so). The best beef BBQ I ever had was in Fort Worth somewhere near the Stock Exchange. :) MMMMMMMMMMMM…..

timbo

February 29th, 2012
11:35 am

Fred,

Thanks for the link, good article. Don’t know what it has to do with my post though.

Have a nice day d-bag.

0311/1811

February 29th, 2012
11:37 am

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words:

I think both should be allowed to speak at churches. Black candidates always have.

What about this one too. What would you say about a:

“Santorum Announces the 2012 Launch of “European Americans for Santorum” !!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdjoHA5ocwU&feature=youtu.be

The Thin Guy

February 29th, 2012
11:37 am

The really big news of the day is a female jock at UGA has been charged with absconding with $ 1.06 worth of hashbrowns

http://www.ajc.com/sports/uga/uga-soccer-player-charged-1367143.html

If the economy is thriving, as Bookman constantly trumpets, why would someone risk hard time in the slammer for some potatoes that were cooked last Thursday and left under a heat lamp? According to the front page story on the ajc she didn’t even take condiments. If she had succeeded in replacing the pilfered spuds how would they have tasted to the person who bought them if she’d placed them where the sun don’t shine?

We need to establish themes or slogans for the upcoming election. Mine is

If Mittens is POTUS all potato meals will be free to female athletes at schools named for creatures with four legs.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
11:38 am

timbo

February 29th, 2012
11:35 am

Fred,

Thanks for the link, good article. Don’t know what it has to do with my post though.

Have a nice day d-bag.
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RIGHTTTTTTTT asshat. you just “happened” to think the exact thing Neal Boorz thought right after he said it…………….. don’t you just hate being outed. I know I would be frustrated if I were you and just couldn’t come up with anything original to offer the group and either had to plagiarize or be quiet while the grown-ups talked………

What’s his new talking point for you?

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
11:40 am

0311/1811

February 29th, 2012
11:37 am

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words:

I think both should be allowed to speak at churches. Black candidates always have.

What about this one too. What would you say about a:

“Santorum Announces the 2012 Launch of “European Americans for Santorum” !!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdjoHA5ocwU&feature=youtu.be
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That is WAY old Scout. Where have you been BTW? We discussed hell out of that the other day. There were many “This group for whatever republican” links shared. Nice try. When I get back from Hickory house, if you still want I’ll go back and find the thread for you. Right now I’m waiting for my neighbor to call and say she’s ready to go eat so I don’t want to start looking…….

ByteMe - Liberal Thug

February 29th, 2012
11:41 am

If the economy is thriving, as Bookman constantly trumpets, why would someone risk hard time in the slammer for some potatoes that were cooked last Thursday and left under a heat lamp?

If you read the story, you’d see she even had the $1.06 to pay for them. I’m guessing it was a hazing thing… or a klepto thing.

And stealing $1.06 does not equate to “hard time in the slammer”. Geez…. :roll:

They BOTH suck

February 29th, 2012
11:47 am

Scout

Was the African American for Bush campaign a good thing?

Oh you didn’t know about it……. Fox or your fav pundit in their quest to be “fair and balanced” didn’t mention it…….

Guess they forgot…… They will speak about it in the next segment…………..

timbo

February 29th, 2012
11:53 am

Fred,

Are you normally an as$hole, or do you just become one when someone is critical of your boy?

Becky

February 29th, 2012
11:54 am

timbo-run along now, you have been outed.

0311/1811

February 29th, 2012
12:01 pm

Both Suck/Fred, et al:

Just bringing Brosephus up to date.

You know the old adage …………. “only white people can be racist”.

Got to run !!

timbo

February 29th, 2012
12:04 pm

Oh no, I have been outed….whatever the hell that means.

Becky, get back in the kitchen.

They BOTH suck

February 29th, 2012
12:05 pm

Scout

Not sure who came up with that adage, but have a great day

Becky

February 29th, 2012
12:07 pm

timbo-you have either been outed for getting your talking points from hate radio or out of the closet. your choice.

Darwin

February 29th, 2012
12:20 pm

Hey Thin Guy – This girl attended a Christian high school. She was a goody two shoes until she got to college. Santorum’s right – a couple years around those left wing liberal communist professors and now she’s stealing. I think she was going to give it to the 99%!

timbo

February 29th, 2012
12:24 pm

AAA rating down graded
Obama apologizes to Karzai for burning of the Koran
Unemployment has risen in the 3+ years of Obama rule
Gas prices have nearly doubled in 3+ years
Rejects the Keystone pipeline
Moratorium on drilling
ObamaCare…when the majority of people have rejected it
Shovel ready projects???
Housing collapse continues

There are some more ‘talking points’ for you. Now, dispute that beyotches.

Darwin

February 29th, 2012
12:34 pm

The Dow over 13,000. Enuf said timbo.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
12:47 pm

Hey Darwin, tell that to the RECORD NUMBER of folks that are unemployed. You have anything to tell us about the 15 trillion dollar deficit (another Obama record), or if they will finally have a budget after 3+ years?

I find it a little hypocritical of libs to trumpet the stock market, but chastise wall street.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
12:49 pm

Oh, and yet another feather liberals can stick up their arse. They ran in Wisconsin, and here they are running again. They must make you so proud.

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2012/02/29/house-democrats-have-left-the-iowa-capitol-in-protest-in-an-undisclosed-location/

Becky

February 29th, 2012
12:51 pm

The repub running on the Nazi ticket must make you all so proud.

Brosephus Lite™- All the sarcasm, Half the words

February 29th, 2012
12:55 pm

Scout

Can’t check the video right now, but the name doesn’t offend me at all. If someone wants to associate themself as being European-American and supporting someone in a party that appears to hate Europe, that’s all on them.

Normal

February 29th, 2012
1:15 pm

Timbo,
You obviously have no understanding about State Politics. If you had read the site you posted, you would understand more, hopefully.

Carrying a weapon and/or loosening restrictions on what is or is not reasonable force is a serious thing and needs to be debated and not rushed through the legal machine. You wouldn’t want any Tom, Dick, or Harry deciding that, because you accidentally bumped into them, that you are a viable threat and therefore have the right to blow you away, now would you?

timbo

February 29th, 2012
1:21 pm

OK Normal, I am going to go nice and slow for you here. The point of the article is….

THE DEMOCRATS LEFT THE CAPITOL

Instead of doing their jobs that they were elected to do, they decided that the best course of action is to run.

And Becky, you are such a mental midget. You can not argue the facts, so you make a asinine statement to cover up your ignorance. Maybe you DO need to stay out of the kitchen.

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
1:28 pm

Liberals sure are funny! Can you feel their jitters? Mitt is polled over their Annointed One and he has gained tremendous momentum in the conservative arena. Liberals sure are funny! They continuously lambast the Tea Party when it is their OWS that is causing death and destruction. Now they are not so much funny–they’re criminals.

Normal

February 29th, 2012
1:29 pm

Like I said, Timbo…real slow now…If you had read the article, they had no choice. I salute them for that stance.

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
1:31 pm

“Meth user burns 5th oldest tree in the world”
I thought it was oil that was destroying our environment and changing climate.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
1:35 pm

Normal,
Salute quitters? What a profound statement. Wow!!!

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
1:49 pm

timbo

February 29th, 2012
11:53 am

Fred,

Are you normally an as$hole, or do you just become one when someone is critical of your boy?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I don’t have a boy asshat, I have a girl. She’s 9. How is pointiong out you coming through on a drive by to post Neal Boortz latest ramblings being an ass hole?

You really CAN’T think can you?

JPP

February 29th, 2012
1:51 pm

I am a DEM, but assuming Romney holds on to win the nomination, I think he’s got a real shot to beat Obama. I think the electorate will forget a lot of what went on in the primaries and view Romey as a moderate…..

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
1:53 pm

JPP

February 29th, 2012
1:51 pm
Take back your party and vote all liberals out.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
2:05 pm

Fred,

Why are you hung up on this? Do you have a point to make? Could it be that Neal Boortz just happened to see the same video I did last night, and also make a comment on it? Am I not allowed to do that? Do I now have to listen to Neal for 3 hours every day and check his web site before posting anything? I didn’t hear what Neal said, but the article was pretty good, except he didn’t mention that Detroit is falling down while Barry and his UAW union thugs are celebrating.

I feel sorry for your daughter, I hope she seeks some help later on in life.

Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
2:14 pm

uh Huh yeah right. you parrots ALWAYS come in here in the morning right after Neal says something and then post it. THEN you deny it. Why do you have to lie all the time?

Is that the Republican way? Lie lie lie?

Thulsa Doom

February 29th, 2012
2:18 pm

Oh noes. Ya just know the kooks are hating that it looks like its gonna be Romney instead of Santorum. They just hatin it.

I think everybody on here pretty much knows that if Romney wins that he’s going to take down the community organizer.

Republicans Are Beyond Redemption

February 29th, 2012
2:24 pm

The Republicans’ Biggest Problem:

Keeping millions out of work to put ONE MAN OUT OF A JOB.

They HATE Obama more than they LOVE America.

All they had to do is RUN on the issues (jobs, economy, manufactuing, etc.).

They GOT EXTREMELY FANATICAL and lost their MINDS.

Republicans Are Beyond Redemption

February 29th, 2012
2:26 pm

@Thulsa Doom

February 29th, 2012
2:18 pm
Oh noes. Ya just know the kooks are hating that it looks like its gonna be Romney instead of Santorum. They just hatin it.

I think everybody on here pretty much knows that if Romney wins that he’s going to take down the community organizer.
**************************************************************

Romney could not even take his DOG down off the roof of his car.

He is a total LOSER.

Becky

February 29th, 2012
2:27 pm

Thulsa-do you feel if you repeat it enough it will come true? Don’t think so!

Republicans Are Beyond Redemption

February 29th, 2012
2:28 pm

@Fred ™

February 29th, 2012
2:14 pm
uh Huh yeah right. you parrots ALWAYS come in here in the morning right after Neal says something and then post it. THEN you deny it. Why do you have to lie all the time?

Is that the Republican way? Lie lie lie?
********************************************************

Republicans are NOTORIOUS LIARS and the TRUTH ain’t in them.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
2:30 pm

Fred,

I am done beating the dead horse, whatever you say dude. You really should seek some professional help though, for your daughters sake.

Republicans Are Beyond Redemption

February 29th, 2012
2:32 pm

@williebkind

February 29th, 2012
1:28 pm
Liberals sure are funny! Can you feel their jitters? Mitt is polled over their Annointed One and he has gained tremendous momentum in the conservative arena. Liberals sure are funny! They continuously lambast the Tea Party when it is their OWS that is causing death and destruction. Now they are not so much funny–they’re criminals.
*********************************************************************

IF Liberals hated America we’d vote Republican.

Becky

February 29th, 2012
2:33 pm

Fred-did you have bbq for lunch?

timbo

February 29th, 2012
2:33 pm

Republicans,

Can you explain to me how the Republicans are keeping people out of work? Last time I checked, when a Republican was in the White House, the unemployment wasn’t even close to what it is with a democrat in the White House.

And also, could you list the lies for us.

Republicans Are Beyond Redemption

February 29th, 2012
2:36 pm

@williebkind

February 29th, 2012
1:28 pm
Liberals sure are funny! Can you feel their jitters? Mitt is polled over their Annointed One and he has gained tremendous momentum in the conservative arena. Liberals sure are funny! They continuously lambast the Tea Party when it is their OWS that is causing death and destruction. Now they are not so much funny–they’re criminals.

************************************************************

“They continuously lambast the Tea Party”

Tea Party is for little girls with IMAGINARY FRIENDS.

Republicans Are Beyond Redemption

February 29th, 2012
2:37 pm

@timbo

February 29th, 2012
2:33 pm
Republicans,

Can you explain to me how the Republicans are keeping people out of work? Last time I checked, when a Republican was in the White House, the unemployment wasn’t even close to what it is with a democrat in the White House.

And also, could you list the lies for us.
*********************************************************

I don’t OWE you an explanation.

I said what I said and I am STICKING by it.

You can AGREE OR DISAGREE.

Becky

February 29th, 2012
2:40 pm

So no one here can tell me what the following means:

media elite
take back our country

So sad these are your talking points but you don’t actually have a definition.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
2:47 pm

Media Elite – The leftist main stream media (CNN, ABC, NBS, CBS) that covers for Obama. When gas was $2.50 a gallon, it was all Bush’s fault. They also failed to mention Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers, and Jeremiah Wright.

Take back our country – Stop apologizing to our enemies, deficit control/reduction, put us back to work, seek our own natural resources instead of depending on our enemies, support our allies when they need us, support small businesses instead of creating more regulations.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
2:50 pm

Republicans Are Beyond Redemption

You don’t have an explanation. I think your head is about to explode.

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
2:51 pm

Becky

February 29th, 2012
2:40 pm

Media elite – A psuedo newspaper or news broadcasting companies who have controlled the media from its inception and have such flagrant biased reporting that truth has no value.

take back our country – A motivation to remove liberal socialist from political offices before they can impose Eurpean socialist values and form a collective that dictates free enterprise and personnel responsibility is not the soul of America.

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
2:53 pm

Becky can you tell everyone the agenda of the progressive liberal?

Becky

February 29th, 2012
2:56 pm

willie-you just described faux news as media elite. OMG

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
2:59 pm

Republicans Are Beyond Redemption

February 29th, 2012
2:32 pm
“Tea Party is for little girls with IMAGINARY FRIENDS.”

We call them our liberal friends when we have discussions.

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
2:59 pm

Enter your comments here

timbo

February 29th, 2012
3:00 pm

williebkind

I can tell you their agenda better than Becky can. It is

squawk…Bush’s fault…Obama is great…squawk
squawk…Republicans in Congress…Obama is great…squawk
squawk…the Republicans are Nazi’s…Obama is great…squawk
squawk…Romney sux…Obama is great…squawk
squawk…Santorum sux…Obama is great…squawk
squawk…Newt is fat…Obama is great…squawk
squawk…Faux News lies…Obama is great…squawk
squawk…you have been outed…Obama is great…squawk

I think that almost covers it.

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
3:02 pm

Becky

February 29th, 2012
2:56 pm

Becky, is it Fox News you are implying that is elite media? No they are not the elite media they are just “real” reporters. Name one “real” reporter that you know?

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
3:04 pm

Timbo:

That just about covers it!!!

timbo

February 29th, 2012
3:06 pm

Becky,

Are you referring to the #1 cable news program for 10 years running…Fox News? If they report lies, then how is it that the ‘elite’ media is losing viewers and subscribers to Fox News?

Becky

February 29th, 2012
3:10 pm

Becky

February 29th, 2012
3:13 pm

timbo-hon. you make it too easy to dispute your posts.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
3:21 pm

Becky,

It must really piss you off that Fox News is still #1 in cable news, and that you have to look real hard to find a liberal on the radio. Don’t be such a hater.

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
3:21 pm

The GOP base’s idea of a “centrist” candidate today is not Olympia Snowe but someone like the Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell. McDonnell has not yet been in office two years, but in that time he (1) issued a proclamation celebrating Confederate History Month that omitted any mention of slavery, and (2) endorsed a bill mandating that rape victims seeking an abortion be raped a second time by state officials wielding vaginal ultrasound wands.

sheesh

timbo

February 29th, 2012
3:23 pm

Posting a far left web site is hardly ‘disputing’ my posts.

I really do hope you are better in the kitchen then you are debating facts. If not, you are about as useful as a bull with mammary glands.

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
3:27 pm

timbo – nice job of repeating Fox News/Republican talking points.

Who do you want to take America back from?

When will the media begin to ask Mr. Romney about how his Mormon faith influences his political beliefs?

timbo

February 29th, 2012
3:30 pm

Mister.Earl,

Oh jeez, here we go with the talking points again. Hey williebkind, another one for you to add to the list.

squawk…Republican talking points…Obama is great…squawk

Just about everything a liberal says is a talking point. There is no way a logical person can actually believe that Obama is doing a good job……oh wait…we are talking libs here…scatch that.

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
3:31 pm

By sealing his image for phoniness, Romney’s courtship of the Republican base has diminished him. Yet by elevating Santorum — a man whose views on contraception, college and much else are at odds with the views of the vast majority of Americans — the base seems indifferent to the prospect of epic defeat.

Somewhere, President Barack Obama is talking about serious issues.

The Rush Limbaugh’s of the world who want The President to fail are very frustrated people.

Billybob

February 29th, 2012
3:34 pm

thanks for trying to pick the republican candidate again jay…..you are like the dog at the table who, once he gets one handout, never stops begging for it………keep exposing your radical views by doing these kinds of things, please……..the most intellectually dishonest drivel to date from jaylo’ so congrats!
citing david brooks(a ‘new york times conservative) who said after he saw the crease in hussein’s pants he knew he was going to be president…..enough said here lib……bury brooks view forevermore
“……Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine announced her retirement, stripping the GOP and the country of one of the last remaining moderate voices in the party’…….this coming from a lib media hack who is supporting a man who is ‘fundamentally transforming’ our country into a big gov’t nanny state and you can’t define what that means BUT you don’t want anyone to oppose the things that obama is trying to do and are already actually happening like hussein AND YOU supporting taking over 1/5th of our private economy with husseincare……..does everyone know sebelius came out and said that private insurance in this country is dead and will be no more………..that is called a gov’t takeover of an industry……..you view conservative views and the constitution as radical based on what husseincare attempts to do which you want……myself, and the majority of the country view leftist/statist/socialist ideals, which are in the white house and ARE trying to change this nation as founded, are where the extremism lies……….i think i have educated you and your ilk as to who has the EXTREME view of this country……..and you know what, in june you will here it loud and clear from the supreme court and in nov you will hear it from the electorate………..this was fun jay, thanks for letting me expose a little more of who you and your friends are……..enjoy libs

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
3:34 pm

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
3:27 pm

It is separation of church and state and NOT prohibition of religion. You liberals stop reading after the separation of church and state as if the comma were a period. Please read on.

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
3:35 pm

willieb – who has prohibited religion?

Romney’s stabs at seeming a regular guy have provided the most painful moments of his campaign. How to come off as a car buff in Michigan? Mention your wife’s Cadillacs. How to be a good ol’ boy at Daytona? Say you’re friends with some of the race car owners.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
3:37 pm

Hey Becky,

Do I need to see you or Fred if I want to ‘out’ somebody? Looks like Mister.Earl is doing a ‘drive by’ and adding in some ‘talking points’.

Ohhhhhh…..Mister. Earl is in trouble……

timbo

February 29th, 2012
3:40 pm

Mister. Earl

Yes, and Obama is just a ‘regular guy’…just your good old community organizer ‘regular guy’. And his wife Mooochelle at Daytona last year…yeah, she fits.

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
3:40 pm

Santorum, by contrast, seems comfortable only with ordinary guys, provided “ordinary” is defined as white, working-class, traditional, patriarchal, borderline theocratic and seething with resentment at everyone except the rich.

Santorum is the latest right-wing demagogue who rails at the real and imagined sins of liberal cultural elites (joining Joseph McCarthy, George Wallace and Spiro Agnew, to name but a few), but in his zeal to damage Romney in Michigan, he has more effectively damaged himself throughout professional America.

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
3:42 pm

” the base seems indifferent to the prospect of epic defeat.”

Mister.Earl that happened in the last election because of ObamaCare and again in 2012. Remember how your annoited one and his worshipers the libs, bribed other senators for votes, used closed doors to ram obamacare down the throats of all Americans, and spent billions to bail out companies using the pockets of the tax payer. We now own auto companies and insurance companies. Amazing aint it.

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
3:43 pm

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
3:40 pm
Who cares?

mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!

February 29th, 2012
3:50 pm

“just three percentage points”…hmmm that’s about 30,000 votes and BTW Mitt has almost 1,000,000 votes more cast for him in the primaries than any other candidate. Go ahead keep hoping Mitt WON’T be the nominee.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
3:52 pm

Hey Mister Earl, you need to cool it on those talking points. Fred and Becky have real ‘issues’ with people who come on here and repeat what they have heard. Luckily for you, I think Fred is at the local bath house right now getting a rub down, and Becky is cooking dinner.

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
3:58 pm

timbo – Santorum’s message may get Rush Limbaugh listeners to the polls, but it is a disaster in upscale Republican and independent suburbs. Just as Romney can’t relate to blue-collar Americans, Santorum can’t, or won’t, relate to professionals. And the Republicans’ class war rolls on.

yourmine

February 29th, 2012
4:02 pm

If Orrin Hatch survives the caucuses in Utah in March he’ll be able to use his war chest to disillusion the people. Orrin Hatch wears a Conservative cloak. Look at his record. http://www.hatchrecord.com
17 votes to raise the debt = 7.6 trillion isn’t Conservative. Nor is SCHIP, Medicare part D, he wrote the Patriot Act, supports the NDAA- is this Constitutional? Hatch is a D.C. Progressive

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
4:07 pm

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
3:58 pm
How do you know? Are you sure? Have you talked to the conservative groups?

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
4:11 pm

A moderate is a republican in name only who will vote with the liberals to move things along but never can get the libs to vote on republican issues. So in other words a moderate is someone who will give up their values and beliefs to pacify a liberal. Is that Hatch?

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
4:11 pm

timbo – put aside the childish personal insults and please read carefully.

‎”a campaign is not the time to try to convince voters of anything they don’t already believe. A campaign is about showing how your values align with theirs.” – Bob Kerry

Neither Santorum or Romney have demonstrated values that align with a majority of American voters. Sadly, their demographic in decline is aging and more rigid in thinking than younger, educated American voters.

You can throw tantrums over nothingness all you want. Context is the key. While you are attempting to talk over the issues that matter to people with hackneyed silliness – the Republicans biological clock is ticking louder than Mona Lisa in My Cousin Vinny.

You do the math.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
4:12 pm

Most of my Republican friends really don’t care about the nomination, we just want to vote Obama out of office. Whether it is Santorum, Romney, or Gingrich, we just want the candidate that can beat Obama. I don’t like any of them, but right now it looks as if Romney has the best chance of winning in November. Therefore, I will vote for Romney next Tuesday, as will a lot of my Republican friends.

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
4:13 pm

timbo

February 29th, 2012
4:12 pm
So will I!

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
4:16 pm

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
4:11 pm
Churchhill once said,”If you are young and not a liberal you have no heart, but if you are old and not conservative you have no sense.”

Old being defined as 35 and up!

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
4:17 pm

Pop Quiz

timbo – what are he three most critical issues to you and your anti-President Obama Republican friends?

Inquiring minds want to know.

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
4:17 pm

Obama got voted in because it made history. Obama gets voted out because his ideology is to change history.

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
4:19 pm

williebkind – Winston Churchill was a great man for another era.

The year is 2012 and I don’t think Winston ever learned how to use an iPad. The world is measured in nanoseconds, not by telegraph clicks.

Nice try.

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
4:20 pm

williebkind – for you, what are the three most critical issues of this years presidential campaign?

Take your time.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
4:21 pm

And Mister Earl, those are not childish personal insults. Fred and Becky really hate when you just repeat what you have heard or read from someone else, in fact, their heads explode. Just trying to help you out a little.

You have been warned.

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
4:22 pm

timbo – enough with the sidesteps.

can you please answer the question that I posed respectfully on the campaign issues that matter to you most?

Avoidance of dialogue speaks volumes about your maturity

Rickster

February 29th, 2012
4:27 pm

It helps no one to have one of our major political parties take a headlong plunge into fanaticism and willful ignorance.

And it would make matters worse if the Republicans did the same thing.

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
4:31 pm

Rickster – cute, but no cigar.

fanaticism? Care to cite examples that back your point?

SFX; crickets

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
4:34 pm

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
4:19 pm
Truth has no age no era and no ending however liberals do not believe in absolute truths because it may interfer with what makes them feel good.

John Birch

February 29th, 2012
4:35 pm

The reason there are so many negative campaign adds these days is because they work! More posple vote against soemthing/someone thne fo someon. So middle and lower class white voters don’t have to identify with Romney to vote for him, they just have to dislike Obama’s record (economy, Middle East, Obamacare, etc.) enough to vote against him. If the economy shows more signs of improvement he will win and if it pulls back just a little more he will lose regardless of what Romney does.

williebkind

February 29th, 2012
4:36 pm

“critical issues of this years presidential campaign?”

1. Obama
2. Obama
3. Obama

timbo

February 29th, 2012
4:43 pm

Mister.Earl

I’ll play your game.

#1 – Get a clue on how to get America back to work. Stop being a hindrance to small businesses by lifting some of the regulations that have slowed their growth.

#2 – Stop relying so heavily on the middle east for oil and open up our resources. Yes, that means ‘Drill here, drill now’.

#3 – Pass a budget!!!

#4 – Repeal ObamaCare. We don’t need it, and we sure can’t afford it.

#5 – Stop blaming the achievers in society for what is wrong with our country. We do not want to ‘re-distribute’ the wealth. Our problem is we have way too many moochers in society always looking for hand outs, and it is not being addressed. Class warfare is not going to win.

#6 – Deficit control and reduction. We do not have an income problem, it is a spending problem. See #3.

#7 – Stop with the apologies to other countries.

#8 – Stop propping up failing businesses with tax payer dollars. Let capitalism work the way it should. See Solyndra.

There are a few. I have more if you want them, but I could be here all night.

Martin Williams

February 29th, 2012
4:43 pm

I repeat, the GOP needs to start looking for the 2016 candidate as Jeb Bush and Chris Christie got too much baggage. The 2012 general election is over.

Rickster

February 29th, 2012
4:47 pm

Mister.Earl: People swooning/fainting at Obama rallies.
People falling for slogans like “Yes we can!” without asking, “Yes we can… what?”
Electing someone who if they were applying for a job at the CIA couldn’t pass the background check.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
4:48 pm

John Birch nailed it with his post at 4:35. You are ABSOLUTELY right. Most Republican supporters I know are not really paying attention to the primaries, but the dems sure are. If this economy stays as it is or gets worse, my dog could win the election.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
4:55 pm

Mister.Earl

Avoidance of dialogue speaks volumes about your maturity as well.

yuzeyurbrane

February 29th, 2012
5:04 pm

Jay, you are being a stateman, but I respectfully disagree with you. To truly purge our political body of this Tea Party cancer, the Republicans need to nominate Santorum and have him thrashed as soundly as Richard Nixon thrashed George McGovern. That is the only thing that will save the soul of the party of Lincoln by having them learn that bad behavior leads them to the political wilderness. It may take awhile, the Israelites had to wander 40 years in the desert until they had purged themselves of the generation that worshiped the Golden Calf, but they and the country would then emerge far better.

Billybob

February 29th, 2012
5:13 pm

yuzeyurbrane,
what bad behavior? Is is wanting to cut, cap. and balance the debt and to stop gov’t spending to keep it from going bankrupt and to get gov’t out of the way so the private sector can grow our way out of the mess tha big gov’t has gotten us into in the first place? what do you define as bad behavior……this should be a hoot

timbo

February 29th, 2012
5:16 pm

If the Tea Party is a ‘cancer’, what is OWS? I can’t think of one single riot, rape, arrest, or act of vandalism at a Tea Party event.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
5:22 pm

I guess Mister Earl’s head exploded. Another liberal bites the dust. So sad. I was so looking forward to his reply.

Billybob

February 29th, 2012
5:27 pm

timbo,
to radical leftists democrats, who have taken over the dem party, the cancer and bad behavior is that they want to stop spending……..that’s it….and that’ a loser for the dems in nov and trust me when i say that conservatives and tea party fiscal policies will be in the majority in nov as well……….jaylo’ knows this as well, obama has NO economic record to win on in nov…..
jay,
do you know what hussein means by fundamental transformation yet…….i do and until you denounce it you are supporting it and you will have to be the one to live with it…….good luck with that and the day you will be forced to make that choice out in the open…………

yuzeyurbrane

February 29th, 2012
5:37 pm

timbo and billybob, you 2 should be thrilled that I say that Republicans should choose Santorum and let’s have a clear ideological choice in November. If you are right, I will have my “left-wing” ass handed to me, but if I am right are you 2 willing to admit that your vision for the country is totally out of step with the kind of country that most Americans want and that the Republican Party will have to accommodate that reality if it wants to be a majority party;? You guys are so out of touch with the big changes in culture and demographics that are occurring at this very moment.

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
5:40 pm

timbo – your reading comprehension needs work.

The request was specifically made that you list your top 3 issues. You listed 8 and offered more.

Do you listen?

Three top issues, then we can dance.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
5:50 pm

Mister.Earl,

Pick your 3, any 3 will suffice. And as I said, I could go on, and on, and on, and on…………

Billybob

February 29th, 2012
5:51 pm

i don’t know who i am voting for yet, but i will not let a supporter of the radical leftist democrat party pick my candidate……….the self ascribed ‘intellectual superiority’ of the left will take a beating this fall…..i am excited about it, but for you to understand what is coming you would actually have to know your own name….this is fun

timbo

February 29th, 2012
5:55 pm

Mister.Earl

You must be struggling trying to find the liberal talking points to respond to my post.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
6:12 pm

Mister.Earl

A lack of response shows your ignorance. Thanks for playing. Jay, what do we have for our departing guests?

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
6:13 pm

Republican Policy Answers To Date

(timbo – please amend with actual policy statements from Republican candidates if you please)

#1 – Get a clue on how to get America back to work. Stop being a hindrance to small businesses by lifting some of the regulations that have slowed their growth.

President Obama signed Small Business Jobs Act in 2010

- that Doubled of the Maximum Loan Size for The Largest SBA Programs:The bill also increases the maximum loan size for SBA loan programs, which in the coming weeks will allow more small businesses to access more credit to allow them to expand and create new jobs.

The bill permanently raised the maximum size for SBA’s two largest loan programs, increasing the maximum 7(a) and 504 loans from $2 million to $5 million, and the maximum 504 manufacturing related loan from $4 million to $5.5 million.

In addition, it will temporarily increase the maximum loan size for SBA Express loans from $350,000 to $1 million, providing greater access to working capital loans that small businesses use to purchase new inventory and take on their next order – allowing them to create new jobs.

A New $30 Billion Small Business Lending Fund:The bill would establish a new $30 billion Small Business Lending Fund which – by providing capital to small banks with incentives to increase small business lending – could support several multiples of that amount in new credit.

An Initiative to Strengthen Innovative State Small Business Programs – Supporting Over $15 Billion in Lending:The bill will support at least $15 billion in small business lending through a new State Small Business Credit Initiative, strengthening state small business programs that leverage private-sector lenders to extend additional credit – many of which have been forced to cut back due to budget cuts.

Republicans Are Beyond Redemption

February 29th, 2012
6:13 pm

@Becky

February 29th, 2012
3:10 pm
http://foxnewslies.net/
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Republicans are not only NOTORIOUS LIARS they are also intellectually stupid.

Anyone can GOOGLE anything.

Republicans Are Beyond Redemption

February 29th, 2012
6:15 pm

@timbo

February 29th, 2012
3:21 pm
Becky,

It must really piss you off that Fox News is still #1 in cable news, and that you have to look real hard to find a liberal on the radio. Don’t be such a hater.
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DON’T hate the HATER hate the GAME.

Republicans Are Beyond Redemption

February 29th, 2012
6:17 pm

@timbo

February 29th, 2012
3:23 pm
Posting a far left web site is hardly ‘disputing’ my posts.

I really do hope you are better in the kitchen then you are debating facts. If not, you are about as useful as a bull with mammary glands.
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DON’T hate the messenger HATE the facts.

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
6:18 pm

#2 – “Drill Baby Drill” – where were all the Drill Baby Drillers during the BP disaster?

Hate to beak it to you – Alternative energy initiatives are the answer. Not fossil fuels.

Did you read where Republican Allan West was complaining about filling up his Hummer H3?

Rep. West may need to brace his pocketbook; that H3 will need $90 to fill when prices hit $4 a gallon, as most experts suspect they will soon. Or he could switch into something a little more economical; there’s nothing quite as obnoxious as the Hummer on sale, but switching to, say, the 2-liter turbo Ford Explorer would save him at least $1,400 a year in gas — and maybe some aggravation.

THE TRUTH

February 29th, 2012
6:20 pm

What will Jay write about come Nov. when his idol looses ? Perhaps Jay will go on hiatus and sob when Obozo is ousted.

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
6:27 pm

The President of The United States on Drill Baby Drill

“I mean, the American people aren’t stupid. They know that’s not a plan – especially since we’re already drilling. That’s a bumper sticker. It’s not a strategy to solve our energy challenge. That’s a strategy to get politicians through an election. You know there are no quick fixes to this problem.

You know we can’t just drill our way to lower gas prices. If we’re going to take control of our energy future, and can start avoiding these annual gas price spikes that happen every year when the economy starts getting better, world demand starts increasing, turmoil in the Middle East or some other parts of the world, if we’re going to stop being at the mercy of these world events, then we need a sustained, all-of-the-above strategy that develops every available source of American energy – oil, gas, wind, solar, and nuclear, and biofuels, and more.

We need to keep developing the technology that allows us to use less oil in our cars and trucks, less energy for our buildings and our plants and our factories. That’s the strategy we’re pursuing, and that’s the only real solution to this challenge.”

What are Republican candidates saying on the US energy future?

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
6:28 pm

The Truth – do you have anything of interest on actual US policy, instead of juvenile remarks on the author?

sheesh, grow up

Republicans Are Beyond Redemption

February 29th, 2012
6:29 pm

@Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
3:27 pm
timbo – nice job of repeating Fox News/Republican talking points.

Who do you want to take America back from?

When will the media begin to ask Mr. Romney about how his Mormon faith influences his political beliefs?
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They want to take the country back?

We want to take the country forward.

When will the media begin to ask Mr. Romney about how he and his Mormon faith baptizes DEAD JEWS?

Mormons baptize deceased Jews and members of other religions as part of a rite intended to give them access to salvation.

But the practice has stirred outrage among some Jewish leaders.

Republicans Are Beyond Redemption

February 29th, 2012
6:34 pm

@williebkind

February 29th, 2012
4:17 pm
Obama got voted in because it made history. Obama gets voted out because his ideology is to change history.
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If LIBERALS hated America we’d vote Republican.

By the way, I thought you died at the Atlanta Zoo Willie B.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
6:35 pm

This is way too easy. To answer your counter-points, let me offer my own.

Point #1 – Unemployment STILL 10%, but most agree it is closer to 15% when you count the under-employed and the folks who have stopped looking. I would venture a guess that it is higher than that.

Point #2 – Gas is $3.70 a gallon. And where do libs get off telling people what they SHOULD drive? Do you have an alternative RIGHT NOW to oil? Sure, I am all about alternative energy resources, but there is not an alternative on the market right now that people will invest in. Of course, there was Solyndra.

Republicans Are Beyond Redemption

February 29th, 2012
6:37 pm

@timbo

February 29th, 2012
4:43 pm

I’d vote for a Republican but I am ALLERGIC TO NUTS.

yuzeyurbrane

February 29th, 2012
6:39 pm

timbo and billybob’s non-response to my challenge exposes that they prefer to have Romney be the candidate whether or not he loses to Obama so they can continue their rant against moderation. My gosh, if Obama were to run against Santorum and demolish him then they would have to admit their ideas have little following; if Santorum were to win and the country descended into Banana Republic status, what rationalization defending their 15th century political thought would they come up with?

Republicans Are Beyond Redemption

February 29th, 2012
6:40 pm

@Rickster

February 29th, 2012
4:47 pm
Mister.Earl: People swooning/fainting at Obama rallies.
People falling for slogans like “Yes we can!” without asking, “Yes we can… what?”
Electing someone who if they were applying for a job at the CIA couldn’t pass the background check.
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Democrats are SEXY (Obama).

Who ever heard of a nice PIECE of ELEPHANT. :)

Republicans Are Beyond Redemption

February 29th, 2012
6:42 pm

@timbo

February 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
If the Tea Party is a ‘cancer’, what is OWS? I can’t think of one single riot, rape, arrest, or act of vandalism at a Tea Party event.
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I guess not.

Those uneducated rednecks were carrying guns.

Tea is the new KOOL AID.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
6:44 pm

@yuzeyurbrane

I can’t speak for ‘billybob’ but I will vote for the GOP candidate who has the best chance of beating Obama in November on Tuesday. If that is Romney, than he has my vote. If Santorum wins the nomination, then I will vote for Santorum in November. If Scooby Doo wins the nomination, I will vote for Scooby Doo in November.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
7:02 pm

Interesting;

President Barack Obama’s Secretary of Energy Stephen Chu uttered the kind of Washington gaffe that consists of telling the truth when inconvenient. According to Politico, Chu admitted to a House committee that the administration is not interested in lowering gas prices.

Chu, along with the Obama administration, regards the spike in gas prices as a feature rather than a bug. High gas prices provide an incentive for alternate energy technology, a priority for the White House, and a decrease in reliance on oil for energy.

The Heritage Foundation points out that hammering the American consumer with high gas prices to make electric and hybrid cars more appealing is consistent with Obama administration policy and Chu’s philosophy. That explains the refusal to allow the building of the Keystone XL pipeline and to allow drilling in wide areas of the U.S. and offshore areas.

Here, you can read the rest if you want to;
http://news.yahoo.com/energy-secretary-chu-admits-administration-ok-high-gas-193900713.html

Billybob

February 29th, 2012
7:22 pm

timbo,
mentioned this earlier blogging as well, the truth about obama and his radical nature will get out in the general election and he will not win re-elction based on who he is, not who the leftist media portrays him as………nothing jay or anyone here can do to stop it

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
7:39 pm

Jesse Watters on FOX News asked George Clooney: “Is Obama doing a good job?” and George responded: “Yes, he is. He’s the president of the United States. He’s not Obama. He’s the President of the United States.

Nice response from George Clooney.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
7:42 pm

Spoken like the true pompous ass that George Clooney is.

timbo

February 29th, 2012
7:47 pm

“The problem is we elected a manager, and we need a leader,” Clooney tells the magazine. “Let’s face it: Bush is just dim.” – George Clooney

Effing hypocrite, just like most Hollywood folks are. Don’t see him refer to him as ‘President Bush’.

Mister.Earl

February 29th, 2012
8:32 pm

I watched Romney’s speech, linked to in the editorial above, and I am stunned. Now I understand exactly what the skill is that is required to be the Repugnican candidate for president of the USA.

You have to be able to look the people you are going to rip off straight in the eye, just like George W. Bush used to do, and tell them exactly what you are going to do. Only you have to make it sound like letting corporations repatriate their offshore profits tax free, and repealing health care reform, and repealing the tax on inheritances more than $5 million, and cutting taxes on the rich, and not increasing taxes on capital gains are JUST WHAT THE MIDDLE CLASS NEEDS!

I can see being that cynical in writing. That would be like dropping an A-bomb from 30,000 feet. But standing in a high school gymnasium, surrounded by a loving throng of supporters who believe you, and lying straight into their faces is more like killing a defenseless civilian with a knife — from the front.

You have to be able to stand there and tell those lies and not reflect for one second on how cruelly you are conning your victims.

Wow. That is an Olympic gold-medal performance.

Degrees of cruelty and cynicism: 10.

Billybob

February 29th, 2012
8:56 pm

mister.earl,
what does obama mean when he says he wants to fundamentally change the USA?