Imagine the aftermath of a Romney loss in Michigan
If Mitt Romney loses Michigan tonight — and the polls say that’s possible — you’re gonna see some stuff happen. The Republican Party is gonna look like the scene in “Titanic” when people finally begin to understand: This unsinkable sucker could really go down.
The band warms up the crowd for Mitt Romney's Michigan concession speech?
Such a defeat would not end Romney’s campaign — he has too many resources and too much organization to simply sink beneath the waters. But a loss in his native state would confirm to many of his fellow Republicans that an alternative must be found, and quickly. For Romney, the setback would be significant because it would damage the single most important asset that he possesses, which is credibility. Mr. Inevitable would look more and more like Mr. Inevitable Loser.
But what alternatives do the Republicans have? Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum are far more problematic than Romney. I’m beginning to hear strange noises out of Florida, as if Jeb Bush were starting to stir a bit, but that’s still a longshot. On the other hand, if Romney loses Michigan, those noises may increase in volume pretty quickly.
Truthfully, though, it’s still hard to envision the mechanism by which a late entry seizes control of the race. Those who have been campaigning all along aren’t going to meekly set aside their ambitions and allow some white knight to ride in and seize the prize.
And should Romney win in Michigan? Victory won’t do a lot for him, because it’s a state that he’s supposed to win pretty handily, against a set of opponents whom he ought to thrash. In college basketball terms, you don’t get many RPI points for beating weak opponents on your home court. A Romney win in Michigan, twinned with an expected win in Arizona, would merely extend the party’s current unsettled state of affairs.
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Jm
February 28th, 2012
12:12 pm
Normal ford owns a whopping 3.5%
(ir)Rational
February 28th, 2012
12:13 pm
Bro – I lived about 40 miles from the nearest theater, and didn’t have any friends old enough to drive me. Having said that, I was about 15 or 16 and my mom had gone out of town for the weekend with my sister, and my dad “educated” me with the Porky’s movies and Animal House. Good weekend.
stands for decibels
February 28th, 2012
12:14 pm
jm, you want to at least TRY to provide some context for that 2008 quote?
like, say, this?
http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122904040307499791.html
the next administration will face a range of obstacles on the energy front, from plummeting oil prices and a declining economy to potential rifts among Mr. Obama’s own advisers.
In a sign of one major internal difference, Mr. Chu has called for gradually ramping up gasoline taxes over 15 years to coax consumers into buying more-efficient cars and living in neighborhoods closer to work.
“Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe,” Mr. Chu, who directs the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California, said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal in September.
September. 2008. Two months before Obama was even elected, fercryinoutloud.
Normal
February 28th, 2012
12:14 pm
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
12:11 pm
I was Navy and my reasons were voluntary but personal.
Doggone/GA
February 28th, 2012
12:14 pm
“of the funniest things I’ve ever read on here was when she claimed that a weaker dollar meant we could buy more stuff.”
But you couldn’t refute it.
Fred ™
February 28th, 2012
12:14 pm
Brocephus: I may be mistaken but I think you were about 8 when Porky’s came out lol. (1982).
They BOTH suck
February 28th, 2012
12:15 pm
JohnnyReb
If I’m not mistaken……. Delta accepted government funds in 2002
St Simons - we're on Island time
February 28th, 2012
12:16 pm
VOTING is like driving a CAR.
Choose (R) to move backward.
Chose (D) to move forward.
But the clown car is so much funnier when its goin backwards
Brosephus
February 28th, 2012
12:16 pm
(ir)Rational
That sounds like one cool assed dad!!!
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Fred
I don’t remember exactly how old I was, but I know I wasn’t old enough to be watching and listening to what I observed.
Junior Samples
February 28th, 2012
12:16 pm
no chance of bush being considered the worst prez ever. obama has that one locked up …even overtaking jimmy.
jm
February 28th, 2012
12:16 pm
“September. 2008. Two months before Obama was even elected”
thats why he picked him silly
u r not good at putting facts together are you.
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
12:16 pm
Adam,
As TBS said there really isn’t that much difference between hard news on fox vs hard news on say abc. Its the pundits such as Maddow, Olberman, Oreilly, Hannity that have the skewed views and everyone kinda knows that- its self evident. Your perception that leftist pubs and pundits are closer to the truth than right wing ones is just your biased perception.
Fred ™
February 28th, 2012
12:17 pm
Bro: And yet nowadays you can see the same thing on network tv…………
stands for decibels
February 28th, 2012
12:17 pm
Normal ford owns a whopping 3.5%
and why do you have to be such a frickin’ jackass about this? Ford once owned 33.4% of Mazda, near as I can tell that was true between 1996 and 2008, so Normal’s presumption isn’t that egregious.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda#Partnership_with_Ford_Motor_Company
Normal
February 28th, 2012
12:18 pm
jm,
In 1997 Ford owned nearly 35% of Mazda.
stands for decibels
February 28th, 2012
12:18 pm
thats why he picked him silly
he understands supply and demand? This is a bad thing, why?
I’m so old I can remember when you weren’t a complete turd on the issue of energy policy. Sad what’s become of you.
Normal
February 28th, 2012
12:18 pm
Beat me to it Stands, but thanks…
Erwin's cat
February 28th, 2012
12:18 pm
Adam – “facts” can be bias or presented that way
Fact 1: The horse doesn’t see so well
Fact 2: The horse is stone blind
2 “facts” about the same horse
jm
February 28th, 2012
12:18 pm
doom – hang onto that chu quote for future reference.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 28th, 2012
12:19 pm
Doom — “I was under the impression that if you’re a ground troop you only had to do 1 year tour.”
Nam was before my time, too, but some guys volunteered for additional tours of duty.
There was a guy in my platoon in boot camp who was actually a Nam vet, who decided to re-up after over 15 years out of uniform. When we had our first Class A uniform inspection, all the old lifer NCOs in our battalion were looking at him VERY closely. Even the sergeant major asked him a lot of questions about his service.
Our senior drill sergeant saw the combat patch on his shoulder and said “damn, Private, you got something I ain’t even got!”
jm
February 28th, 2012
12:19 pm
“In 1997 Ford owned nearly 35% of Mazda.”
Things change.
(ir)Rational
February 28th, 2012
12:20 pm
Bro – Yeah, my dad and I did that sort of thing every time my mom went out of town. We went out fishing, had really good (and by that I mean unhealthy) dinners, and watched movies that my mom wouldn’t approve of.
Doggone/GA
February 28th, 2012
12:20 pm
“2 “facts” about the same horse”
Nope. If the first one is a fact (the truth) then the second is not a FACT, it’s a lie.
Fred ™
February 28th, 2012
12:20 pm
Junior Samples
February 28th, 2012
12:16 pm
no chance of bush being considered the worst prez ever. obama has that one locked up …even overtaking jimmy.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVKUSUL9dYA
Brosephus
February 28th, 2012
12:20 pm
Fred
Sad, isn’t it. I can remember sneaking to watch HBO and Showtime after hours. Nowadays, you can see almost the same amount of skin on network tv.
jm
February 28th, 2012
12:21 pm
sfd 12:17 – that’s your spin pal. he’s technically correct, Ford does own Mazda. Just not very much of it.
godless heathen©
February 28th, 2012
12:21 pm
Normal
February 28th, 2012
12:14 pm
I was Navy and my reasons were voluntary but personal.
Normal, we trust it wasn’t anything like the Village People song?
Brosephus
February 28th, 2012
12:22 pm
Fact 1: The horse doesn’t see so well
Fact 2: The horse is stone blind
The two “facts” don’t even quite say the same thing. To say the horse doesn’t see well would imply there is some semblance of vision. Being stone blind would imply that there is no vision at all.
Fred ™
February 28th, 2012
12:22 pm
stands for decibels
February 28th, 2012
12:17 pm
Normal ford owns a whopping 3.5%
and why do you have to be such a frickin’ jackass about this?
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Are you serious? you are asking the poster child for jackassery why he has to be a jack ass lol? The one with the PhD in asshattery as well? He ALWAYS is.
Gale
February 28th, 2012
12:23 pm
Politics in this country is looking very much like the countries where the powers that be tell you what choice you have in your “free and open” democracy.
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
12:23 pm
Doggone/GA
February 28th, 2012
12:14 pm
“of the funniest things I’ve ever read on here was when she claimed that a weaker dollar meant we could buy more stuff.”
“But you couldn’t refute it.”- doggone
Doggone,
Uhhhh. Ummmm. Yes I did and will do so again. Not sure how to answer a statement so mindbogglingly incorrect. A weaker dollar means you can buy less goods. If the dollar falls everything we import becomes more expensive. It costs more to buy more of that Chinese crap at Walmart. Dollar denominated purchases of foreign oil would be more expensive. I’m not sure there is an economist alive who would disagree with the idea that a weaker dollar reduces purchasing power. At this point you are really looking superlative dumb. Why do you continously endeavor to make sense when you’ve never been able to do so previously. I think your time would be better spent banging your head against the wall.
Erwin's cat
February 28th, 2012
12:24 pm
Doggone – if the second one is true, so is the first
The Thin Guy
February 28th, 2012
12:25 pm
How bout some useful info. Is there a candidate on the March 6 Presidential Preference election on the demoncrap side running against The Indonesian Imbecile? Are you Jackass party types going to offer an American this time around? Should The Reign of Error by ØDumbø be extended to 8 years all Americans will envy the economy of Greece. Already there are predictions of the total breakdown of Western Civilization
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2107315/Market-crash-street-riots-year-Americans-plan-economic-9-11.html
Who are you going to believe? Press releases from the DNC or your wallet?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 28th, 2012
12:27 pm
Thin Guy — “Is there a candidate on the March 6 Presidential Preference election on the demoncrap side running against The Indonesian Imbecile? Are you Jackass party types going to offer an American this time around?”
You’re not looking for any serious replies, I see.
philman
February 28th, 2012
12:27 pm
GOP, how did you end up with 4 clowns in the race???
Fred ™
February 28th, 2012
12:27 pm
Bro: I’m a terrible “censor.” My daughter will be 10 next month. I’ll let her watch or read any thing she wants. (well almost). Funny thing is, she’s just not interested in much that’s not PG. On ‘kissy scenes” she closes her eyes and says ewwwwwww, and scary scenes she just flat out won’t watch.
She watched all of Band of Brothers with me when she was 4 or 5 (maybe 6) and loved it. Now she won’t watch anything with blood or someone getting shot.
(ir)Rational
February 28th, 2012
12:27 pm
Time to go to lunch. Y’all have a good afternoon.
sam
February 28th, 2012
12:28 pm
can someone explain to me how the president controls/affects gasoline prices? I remember the same stuff during GWB’s terms…
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
12:29 pm
Normal,
Okay. I was just trying to reconcile why someone who hated the Vietnam war to the point of protesting it would then voluntarily serve 2 more tours. It didn’t make any sense to me is all.
(ir)Rational
February 28th, 2012
12:29 pm
Fred – If you let them make their own decisions, and remove the “stigma” from it, a lot of kids will make the “right” decision about that kind of thing. At least from my VERY limited experience of observing my cousins.
ken
February 28th, 2012
12:29 pm
And my Wife drives two Cadillacs………….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fred ™
February 28th, 2012
12:29 pm
The Thin Guy
February 28th, 2012
12:25 pm
How bout some useful info. Is there a candidate on the March 6 Presidential Preference election on the demoncrap side running against The Indonesian Imbecile? Are you Jackass party types going to offer an American this time around? Should The Reign of Error by ØDumbø be extended to 8 years all Americans will envy the economy of Greece. Already there are predictions of the total breakdown of Western Civilization
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2107315/Market-crash-street-riots-year-Americans-plan-economic-9-11.html
Who are you going to believe? Press releases from the DNC or your wallet?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Complete nut case alert.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REvmhBO99I4
Adam
February 28th, 2012
12:30 pm
Erwin: Neither of those are fact. Neither are “true.” They are a perception of what the reason is. Here’s the way those would read if they were facts:
1) The horse, does, in fact, have some vision but it is limited.
2) The horse is blind
Since those are ACTUALLY facts, one of them is true, one is not.
Fred ™
February 28th, 2012
12:30 pm
I found a video clip of our new poster, Thin Man:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaezjE1uJTw&feature=related
Adam
February 28th, 2012
12:31 pm
Back to LUNCH
philman
February 28th, 2012
12:31 pm
I am just jumping into the debate… who is this Newt dude? Is he from Washington?
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
12:31 pm
jm,
That chu quote???
Doggone/GA
February 28th, 2012
12:32 pm
“Yes I did and will do so again. Not sure how to answer a statement so mindbogglingly incorrect”
Now that I have a moment to think about it, you actually misquoted me…why am I not surprised? I said a weaker dollar means we can SELL MORE. It makes American goods more attractive in the global market. As you so eloquently pointed out, even though you probably don’t realize it.
JOE COOL
February 28th, 2012
12:33 pm
-Wyoming legislator David Miller (R) introduces “doomsday” bill-
Wyoming Republican state legislator David Miller has introduced a bill to prepare his state for a doomsday scenario in which the nation’s economy and social structure completely collapse.
“Things happen quickly sometimes — look at Libya, look at Egypt, look at those situations,” Miller told the Star-Tribune. “We wouldn’t have time to meet as a Legislature or even in a special session to do anything to respond.”
Man, gotta love them CONs!!
If Liberals Hated America We'd Vote Republican
February 28th, 2012
12:34 pm
@Jm
February 28th, 2012
12:04 pm
Hey zoom zoom
Mazda isn’t an American manufacturer
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Partnership with Ford Motor CompanyMazda’s financial difficulties during the 1960s resulted in a new corporate investor, Ford Motor Company. Starting in 1979 with a 7-percent financial stake, Ford began a partnership with Mazda resulting in various joint projects. During the 1980s, Ford gained another 20-percent financial stake. These included large and small efforts in all areas of the automotive landscape. This was most notable in the realm of pickup trucks (like the Mazda B-Series, which spawned a Ford Courier variant in North America in 1972) and smaller cars. For instance, Mazda’s Familia platform was used for Ford models like the Laser and Escort, while the Capella architecture found its way into Ford’s Telstar sedan and Probe sports models. In 2002 Ford gained an extra 5-percent financial stake.
AM I LIBERAL OR JUST WELL EDUCATED?
Erwin's cat
February 28th, 2012
12:34 pm
Adam,
you had to rewrite the “facts” to prove your point, which makes mine
Joe Hussein Mama
February 28th, 2012
12:34 pm
ken — “And my Wife drives two Cadillacs………….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
At the same time, even.
Bruno
February 28th, 2012
12:35 pm
JohnnyReb, if the nominee is Romney, he cannot make the argument against ObamaCare. I mean, this is the man who insisted that his official portrait as governor of Massachusetts include a copy of his health-insurance reform plan. He cannot credibly turn around and condemn Obama for following his example.
Jay–As I’m sure you’re well aware, Romney is proposing a revocation of ObamaCare from a states’ rights standpoint. Somewhat of a stretch, but at this point I don’t care what the reasoning is.
This game of politics is not very much fun anymore and there is so much at stake for the future of this country. I’m ok, my family will be ok, but the children, what will they be looking at in 20, 30 years?
Mick–As far as I’m concerned, the National Debt should be the only campaign issue coming from either side. The numbers are out of control. We can’t keep spending more than we’re bringing in. We’ve got a $38,000 budget on a $29,000 income, with $158,000 already on the credit card.
jm
February 28th, 2012
12:36 pm
But three years into his presidency, Obama’s marquee council of faith advisers has gone dark — a little-noticed postscript for a panel that he rolled out with fanfare and high expectations during his first weeks in office but ended up playing only a limited role in West Wing deliberations.
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ForDEMOCRATSonly
February 28th, 2012
12:36 pm
Check into how much the MEDIA MATTERS CEO chief paid his ex live-in boyfriend to keep his mouth shut. Don’t worry HUF POST, or the AJC won’t cover it.
Let me save you demos the time – $850.000.00
I should have known that guy was a “little light in the loafers”
jm
February 28th, 2012
12:38 pm
Doom – this
Energy Secretary Steven Chu notably said “we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe” to make Americans trade in their “love affair with the automobile” for a marriage to mass transit.
Doggone/GA
February 28th, 2012
12:38 pm
“if the second one is true, so is the first”
Nope, it isn’t. If the second one is true the horse can’t see at all. The first is stating that it CAN see, just not very well. There’s quite a big difference between being blind and having limited vision. They can’t both be true. The horse can’t both see and not see at the same time. One of them is a lie.
jm
February 28th, 2012
12:39 pm
“AM I LIBERAL OR JUST WELL EDUCATED?”
Liberal. Those are mutually exclusive, incompatible traits. See Venn diagram for help understanding.
BOB FROM ACCOUNT TEMPS
February 28th, 2012
12:39 pm
LIBS, PLEASE TRY TO UNDERSTAND -this is a throw away election for the repubs. they(the pary power brokers), don’t care who the candidate is. 2012 is to purge the party of the all the has beens’ and wanabes’. the prize is 2016 with some new blood against whomever the dems think can win for them. an obama win this year makes a repub win in 2016 a done deal.
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
12:40 pm
Doggone,
If you are going to outright lie you should at least make it a lie that you can’t get so easily busted on.
Doggone/GA
February 28th, 2012
12:32 pm
“Yes I did and will do so again. Not sure how to answer a statement so mindbogglingly incorrect”- Doom
Now that I have a moment to think about it, you actually misquoted me…why am I not surprised? I said a weaker dollar means we can SELL MORE. It makes American goods more attractive in the global market. As you so eloquently pointed out, even though you probably don’t realize it.
Doggone/GA
August 16th, 2011
8:52 am
“and his policies have deflated our dollar”
Which is actually a GOOD thing. Gives the dollar more buying power on the world market.
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
12:41 pm
Doggone,
What was that about misquoting you?
Erwin's cat
February 28th, 2012
12:42 pm
Doggone – Are you suggesting that a blind horse can see well?
If the horse is blind, then he can’t see so well either……
the point is “facts” can be presented with a bias and still be loosely defined as “fact”
Kiteman
February 28th, 2012
12:43 pm
The Republicans need a charismatic candidate who is not swayed by the detestable evangelical lobby. That could be Michael Bloomberg or Marco Rubio. Chris Christie, while OK in his politics, is simply too fat. The media will ahve a field day with him, trying to make him look like Fat Albert or Fat B—–d. Ron Paul was a logical choice politically. Unfortunately, the evangelical lobby did not approve. The Republican Party heads bend over backwards to satisfy them, even though their anti-intellectual politics don’t represent conservative principles by any means.
Normal
February 28th, 2012
12:43 pm
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
12:29 pm
OK, I’ll tell you this much…I was an Army brat, taught red, white and blue. Dad was a WWII vet from Normandy to Berlin. I got a gut full of the goodness of America and her might and I believed it.
So, when I volunteered the first time, I felt it was my patriotic duty to go. My eyes were opened then and I felt betrayed, but after what was going on in The States at the time, I also felt that I didn’t belong anywhere else, so I volunteered again. My third tour was, for the most part, the same deal but I also felt that by going again, so other poor fool didn’t have to go. Can you understand that?
I still think that any war is the most stupid endeavor that mankind can do and always will, but most especially undeclared ones.
John Birch
February 28th, 2012
12:44 pm
stand for decibels – http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx
Romney +2 over obama, santorum -1. Have a swell day!
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
12:44 pm
jm,
Thanks again. I had completely forgotten about that. Its hilarious. Here we have statements from Obama himself and from his energy secretary where they blatantly express that they want higher energy prices. Its right there for people to read and see with their own 2 eyes. And yet people still don’t believe it. Its nothing short of bizarre. That’s some powerful brainwashing going on there.
Bruno
February 28th, 2012
12:48 pm
Ooops, only $153,000 on the credit card:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/video/national/watch/28288921
Cosby
February 28th, 2012
12:49 pm
Yawn..to bad the electorial college is not operated a per the constitution and somehow a real statesman, leader is oput in charge…only clowns, eliteist, power hungry idiots that want to put all on the government plantation..but wait..that makes the citizens idiots…sad sad sad day in the USA!!
Brosephus
February 28th, 2012
12:49 pm
Fred
If it’s not animated or on Nick Jr, my 3 year old isn’t very interested in watching it. One exception is police shows. I thought she was going to hurt me when I tried to turn it from Police Women of Broward County one day. We ended up watching a full day marathon.
Doggone/GA
February 28th, 2012
12:49 pm
Thulsa – You are correct. I did state it wrong. I do know the difference, but as I have already proven today I DO get things turned around when I try to state them.
A weaker dollar gives us greater selling power, not buying power.
Adam
February 28th, 2012
12:49 pm
Erwin: You falsely attributed the word “fact” to your explanation. You weren’t stating facts at all, both of those things are opinions.
So no, you did not make your point. For example, let’s look at what Media Matters does:
First, they state what someone said and back it up with a quoted source. Therefore, they start with a FACT that this person said this.
Then they take what was said and refute it, again with facts, by saying what other people and groups have said or done that is contrary to whatever statement they are targeting.
The WORST you can say about them is that they use buzz headlines to get you to start reading and a preamble that is “left leaning.”
So how exactly do you think your “point” even applies?
Joe Hussein Mama
February 28th, 2012
12:50 pm
Normal — “So, when I volunteered the first time, I felt it was my patriotic duty to go. My eyes were opened then and I felt betrayed, but after what was going on in The States at the time, I also felt that I didn’t belong anywhere else, so I volunteered again. My third tour was, for the most part, the same deal but I also felt that by going again, so other poor fool didn’t have to go. Can you understand that?”
I’m an Army vet and younger than you, but I can understand. And I salute you for your service, your selflessness and your dedication, regardless of how you came to the decision to do three tours in Nam.
You’re a rare bird, you are.
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
12:50 pm
Normal,
I don’t disagree with any of what you just said about war in general. And I don’t disagree with your protesting the war after you returned. My problem with Kerry is that he alleged things that he had no evidence of happening and to me this whole charade of his was nothing more than a publicity stunt to get elected in a liberal district. I just find this man shameful and a despicable POS. The man is on record in 3 different video clips with 3 different accounts of what he did with his ribbons and medals. He can’t even get his lies straight on a small thing such as what he did with his medals.
Doggone/GA
February 28th, 2012
12:51 pm
“If the horse is blind, then he can’t see so well either”
If the horse is blind he can’t see AT ALL. He can’t both see and not see at the same time.
Adam
February 28th, 2012
12:51 pm
jm: Those are mutually exclusive, incompatible traits
Erwin, this is an example of a LIE. Just because it is his opinion does not mean it cannot be directly refuted.
Adam
February 28th, 2012
12:53 pm
Doggone: If the horse is blind he can’t see AT ALL. He can’t both see and not see at the same time.
It’s Schrodinger’s Horse.
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
12:53 pm
doggone,
I accept that you just got it turned around. But being a lib and all ya know I just gotta mess with ya.
Erwin's cat
February 28th, 2012
12:53 pm
Adam and Doggone,
geez….never mind!
sometimes the blind don’t see so well
Joe Hussein Mama
February 28th, 2012
12:54 pm
Doom — “My problem with Kerry is that he alleged things that he had no evidence of happening”
Nope. He repeated what others had testified about in a hearing in Detroit. He didn’t allege anything.
DawgDad
February 28th, 2012
12:54 pm
“Top Republicans will let conservatives wake up to what they’ve done if mitt loses, prepare ardently for 2016, and focus on winning the senate.”
Top Republicans will need to wake up to what THEY’VE done and prepare to change or exit stage right. Some of these people are at odds with their voting base.
Remember where the Dems were in 2008 at this point. Their “inevitable” establishment candidate was in trouble, too, ultimately on her way to a Cabinet post.
Adam
February 28th, 2012
12:55 pm
Erwin: You used a bad example. Plus, you are saying things are facts that are not facts. I can understand why you might be confused, but do not expect those of us who know better to follow along.
A fact is something that can be verified to be true. An opinion is something that cannot be verified to be true, but can nevertheless be disproven sometimes. For example, if I say all conservatives are idiots, that might be my opinion, but it’s still not the truth. And it was NEVER a fact.
Doggone/GA
February 28th, 2012
12:55 pm
“to bad the electorial college is not operated a per the constitution ”
how is it not?
Erwin's cat
February 28th, 2012
12:56 pm
Adam 12:53
Bruno
February 28th, 2012
12:56 pm
If the horse is blind he can’t see AT ALL. He can’t both see and not see at the same time.
I guess no blog dispute too small to weigh in on:
Doggone–Though his wording was poor, EC is technically correct in his assertion. A horse which was blind would not qualify for the category of horses which saw well. Think about it from the Venn diagram perspective. Your return point that a horse which didn’t “see well” necessarily had some sight isn’t correct from a strict set-theory POV.
Jm
February 28th, 2012
12:59 pm
” this is an example of a LIE”
Incorrect. It was an example if a joke. Apparently over your Lilliputian head.
Erwin's cat
February 28th, 2012
12:59 pm
I must not speak “left” so well
between USinUK yesterday and this today, I must not be able to speak it at all
Jm
February 28th, 2012
1:01 pm
Adam, since I lied about you being Lilliputian, please do us a favor and refute it if you can.
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
1:02 pm
I guess no blog dispute too small to weigh in on:
Bruno,
Now DAT was funny!!!!!
Bruno
February 28th, 2012
1:02 pm
Looks like this thread has played out.
So what’s next, a slam piece about Santorum or Newt?? Or will Jay go for the back-to-backer on Romney??
JOSE
February 28th, 2012
1:02 pm
Normal
You said:
I still think that any war is the most stupid endeavor that mankind can do and always will, but most especially undeclared ones.
What do you think the Jewish people who your dad helped liberate think about the Allies waging a stupid war that saved them?
Jm
February 28th, 2012
1:04 pm
Adam often wins arguments
But only when arguing with himself
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
1:04 pm
Jm @ 1:01,
Between you and Bruno I’m lmfao over here.
I wonder if Secretary Chu is lying.
They BOTH suck
February 28th, 2012
1:06 pm
TD
If Kerry used his service for political gain, so be it…
Bush Sr and Dole when running against Clinton ran commercials when speaking of their service.
Bush Jr accentuated his bravery of being in the Air National Garud when running sorties up and down the Gulf Coast and protecting Gulf Shores and Destin from being invaded by the Viet Cong. Heck he was so arrogant that he during the 88 or 92 convention he told a reporter that the war may have been different had he been there… You want to see the clip?
It is KERRY’s service, NOT anyone else’s. his experience and experience of those who served with and spoke to who served
Could he have embellished? sure. But you nor I were there. We do not know.
We do know that the SVBs main spokesmen went on tv to laugh about Kerry saying he was in Cambodia only for WH tapes to reveal that that same person told Nixon.. HE was in Cambodia himself. So we do know that disinformation was purposely directed at him……
You have your opinion, but lose no more sleep about it
Normal
February 28th, 2012
1:08 pm
JOSE
February 28th, 2012
1:02 pm
Jose,
Are you really that stupid?
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
1:08 pm
JOSE,
Conversely I wonder if the Tutsis in Rwanda think war would have been justified to save them as 800,000 of them and Hutu moderates were being slaughtered with hoes and machetes. I agree with normal to a point but I also agree that war is absolutely justified sometimes- “The only thing evil needs to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing.” And thankfully good men eventually quit standing by and doing nothing in WW2. Unfortunately they did stand by and do nothing in the case of Rwanda- or in Darfur today.
Adam
February 28th, 2012
1:09 pm
Jm: There is plenty of contrary evidence in many of my posts. You, on the other hand….
They BOTH suck
February 28th, 2012
1:09 pm
TD
Have a great afternoon……… Have to drive up to Gwinnett Cty to meet with a client………. Don’t want to be accused of living off of Uncle Sam or anything like that
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
1:11 pm
TBS,
Trust me I don’t lose sleep over Kerry. But I read both sides of the argument and came to the conclusion that while the right is not fully accurate on his war svc I learned enough to know that I still find this man to be despicable. That’s enough about Kerry though. We don’t want to lose no sleep over him after all.
jm
February 28th, 2012
1:13 pm
ok, everyone other than a Hooverite should take a look at this and be: amused, annoyed, PO’d
http://animalnewyork.com/2012/02/the-department-of-homeland-security-is-searching-your-facebook-and-twitter-for-these-words/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
government hard at work. read to the bottom
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
1:13 pm
They BOTH suck
February 28th, 2012
1:09 pm
TD
“Have a great afternoon……… Have to drive up to Gwinnett Cty to meet with a client”
Git going. I was just about to call you a parasite! Seriously though I knows what you mean. I been messing around too much this morning and need to get back to following up with some clients. Have a safe drive.