Imagine the aftermath of a Romney loss in Michigan
If Mitt Romney loses Michigan tonight — and the polls say that’s possible — you’re gonna see some stuff happen. The Republican Party is gonna look like the scene in “Titanic” when people finally begin to understand: This unsinkable sucker could really go down.
The band warms up the crowd for Mitt Romney's Michigan concession speech?
Such a defeat would not end Romney’s campaign — he has too many resources and too much organization to simply sink beneath the waters. But a loss in his native state would confirm to many of his fellow Republicans that an alternative must be found, and quickly. For Romney, the setback would be significant because it would damage the single most important asset that he possesses, which is credibility. Mr. Inevitable would look more and more like Mr. Inevitable Loser.
But what alternatives do the Republicans have? Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum are far more problematic than Romney. I’m beginning to hear strange noises out of Florida, as if Jeb Bush were starting to stir a bit, but that’s still a longshot. On the other hand, if Romney loses Michigan, those noises may increase in volume pretty quickly.
Truthfully, though, it’s still hard to envision the mechanism by which a late entry seizes control of the race. Those who have been campaigning all along aren’t going to meekly set aside their ambitions and allow some white knight to ride in and seize the prize.
And should Romney win in Michigan? Victory won’t do a lot for him, because it’s a state that he’s supposed to win pretty handily, against a set of opponents whom he ought to thrash. In college basketball terms, you don’t get many RPI points for beating weak opponents on your home court. A Romney win in Michigan, twinned with an expected win in Arizona, would merely extend the party’s current unsettled state of affairs.
– Jay Bookman
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Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
February 28th, 2012
9:24 am
America needs means testing for gas. Why should the poor be denied the right to drive their cars.
-Thomas Jefferson
carlosgvv
February 28th, 2012
9:24 am
Doom – 8:59
There is an excellent chance that, before too long, we’ll conclude that all of our troops who died in Iraq and Afghanistan gave their lives for NOTHING. And, we will thank George W. Bush for that. Of course, debtload, economic growth, unemployment and gas prices mean far more to you and other cons than the mere lives of our troops.
USinUK
February 28th, 2012
9:24 am
“What’s the gas price now?”
all I can say is that the price of being anywhere near the Wondermutt when she has gas is high. VERY high.
Paul
February 28th, 2012
9:25 am
JohnnyReb
Re: the USA Today poll, Affordable Care Act.
As is typical with many polls, I’d suspect people don’t know that much about ACA. Get specific with “if your wife gets breast cancer, do you want the insurance company to have the right to cancel your policy?” and I doubt the answer would be a resounding ‘yes!’
But more to the point: My Congressman, Rep (Dr.) Michael Burgess, is chairman of the House Healthcare Caucus and a critic, not of health care reform, but of aspects of the ACA. Listen to this 2-minute video. Notice how, at the one-minute mark, he says if the Supreme Court finds the individual mandate unconstitutional, other insurance reforms must follow or health care costs will spiral out of control and we need something to take its place.
In other words, JohnnyReb, what Republican Congressional Leaders and presidential candidates say to fire up the base and defeat Pres Obama is one thing. What they do quietly, behind the scenes, is pretty much the opposite.
http://burgess.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=279915
(ir)Rational
February 28th, 2012
9:26 am
Jm – I don’t falsely assume anything. The intelligence reports that have been made public admit that they don’t know if Iran wants to use their nuclear program for energy or for weapons. I’m smart enough to realize that all the intelligence reports aren’t being made public, but one has to assume that they wouldn’t make those reports public if they were sure that Iran wanted to produce a weapons program. If Iran is just building nuclear power plants then what is the big deal? Does Cuba, Mexico or Canada have the right to attack us in here in Georgia because we’re building a new nuclear reactor?
TaxPayer
February 28th, 2012
9:26 am
We know that Santorum has Friess backing him and Gingrich has Adelson and Mitt has his own money but where is the Koch money flowing or is it sitting on the sidelines waiting for a candidate. And why isn’t that money going to Ron Paul. After all, the Kochs and Ron should be tight as in very close since they are all of the Libertarian persuasion and just wearing Republican armbands out of necessity.
Adam
February 28th, 2012
9:26 am
Jm: I used to bring facts. I quit (mostly) after I figured out liberals don’t believe in facts.
This is what they call, in layman’s terms, bullsh*t.
Brosephus
February 28th, 2012
9:26 am
(ir)Rational
That fireball was sponsored by JP4. I’ve never seen anything like that before myself. I was amazed that both Montoya and the guy driving the truck walked away from that. I haven’t heard about speed, but from watching the replay, I’m thinking Montoya was probably around 130mph or so. He was trying to catch up with the pack, so he wasn’t just cruising around.
Jay
February 28th, 2012
9:27 am
Heathen, there are refineries in Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Ohio, Kansas, Michigan….
USinUK
February 28th, 2012
9:27 am
it’s a gas gas gas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84YDhZSjmk0
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
February 28th, 2012
9:28 am
Brosephus@9:26
I am very grateful Montoya wasn’t stuck under the back of that truck. That would have been horrible beyond words.
(ir)Rational
February 28th, 2012
9:29 am
Adam @ 9:26 – Amen to that. A big steaming pile of bullsh*t.
Butch Cassidy
February 28th, 2012
9:29 am
godless heathen -”The oil is going to the global market either way.”
Exactly! Since the U.S. has no control over the global market, there is no way that the POTUS can control the prices in order to affect a reduction in the cost of fuel. Moving the oil from point A to point B is simply transportation not pricing. The pipeline will allow the Canadians to move the crude to the coastal refineries where it will then be sold on the world market at market prices. There is no stipulation that the oil transported across the U.S. gets to STAY in the U.S. The only way to guarantee that it does, is to nationalize the industry, giving the U.S. direct control of all domestic oil supplies. Anything else is just smoke and mirrors.
Adam
February 28th, 2012
9:30 am
Heathen, there are refineries in Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Ohio, Kansas, Michigan….
….Louisiana, Texas, oh heck let me just do this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_refineries#United_States
(ir)Rational
February 28th, 2012
9:31 am
Bro – Yeah, it is impressive that they were able to walk away. Says something about how well their crews installed the safety restraints (realizing of course that the dryer truck might not have a crew, but I’m assuming it probably has something more than a standard seat belt and an airbag).
Adam
February 28th, 2012
9:32 am
BTW, no refineries in North Dakota? Actually there is one:
North Dakota
Mandan Refinery (Tesoro), Mandan 60,000 bbl/d (9,500 m3/d)
Common Sense isn't very Common - Papist Independent
February 28th, 2012
9:32 am
The voices in my head keep saying,
Vo Mitt 2012
USinUK
February 28th, 2012
9:32 am
Butch – “Since the U.S. has no control over the global market”
but haven’t you heard???
he DOES!!!
he can go on camera and threaten to drill in Yellowstone and that will automatically reduce prices IMMEDIATELY
(the tightie righties who were here yesterday told me that, so it MUST be true)
Newtiepewtie
February 28th, 2012
9:33 am
The Dems ought to worry if Gen. David Petraeus gets in the race….
godless heathen©
February 28th, 2012
9:33 am
Butch,
You are acting like I am arguing that the construction of the Pipeline will reduce the price of gas and I’m not. But I think that it will increase the price of gas is a weak argument also.
TaxPayer
February 28th, 2012
9:33 am
The oil refineries in the west/midwest can process the West Texas and Canadian Crude. Other refineries are from an earlier generation that can only process the sweet crude and many of those refineries have shut down because of margin squeeze and the resulting inability to make a profit. Once gas prices are high enough perhaps more refineries will be built that can process the less desireable but cheaper crude.
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
9:33 am
“Bury your head in the sand, the real estate collapse, the result of the ownership society and regulators looking the other way is the problem.”
Mick, I don’t disagree with you there. But is it all W’s fault. Do the Ds not hold any responsibility at all? Any? Or fannie or freddie mac? Or people themselves? Or Congress in the laws that they passed that made lending to people who otherwise had no business getting loans?
“Why is the middle class in tatters? They are all broke from equity lines, flipping real estate. You conveniently overlook all that as if it didn’t matter.”
And its all W’s fault?
“Bush was handed a surplus, squandered it, eviscerated it and left the next guy a big pile of elephant dung.”
Wrong on 2 points. First of all the surplus was projected and never realized so you’re wrong on that count. Secondly the real credit to balanced budgets goes to Newt and the Rs who dragged Clinton screaming and kicking to the table. And one other thing. We inherited the dot.com bust from Clinton or did you forget all about that?
“That’s not playing a card, that’s reality…you are in favor of historical amnesia, no friggin way…”
Yes. And I just corrected you on some more of your inaccuracies regarding history.
Ennis
February 28th, 2012
9:34 am
I take it you don’t watch too many addresses from the white house where BHO is speaking. You may also find this a bit alarming, but you can be born in America and be a Muslim. And no, there is no religious test to be the POUS. Nor will I advocate there to be one. Some people don’t think Mormon is a religion and come down hard on Romney for it.
Adam
February 28th, 2012
9:36 am
But I think that it will increase the price of gas is a weak argument also.
Who said that?
Butch Cassidy
February 28th, 2012
9:37 am
Here’s a little insight to the “Glory Days” of the Bush Administratin in regard to Thulsa Dooms ascertion that things were hunky dorey during Bushs middle years:
How did it get so bad?
Greed. The American economy is built on credit. Credit is a great tool when used wisely. For instance, credit can be used to start or expand a business, which can create jobs. It can also be used to purchase large ticket items such as houses or cars. Again, more jobs are created and people’s needs are satisfied. But in the last decade, credit went unchecked in our country, and it got out of control.
Mortgage brokers, acting only as middle men, determined who got loans, then passed on the responsibility for those loans on to others in the form of mortgage backed assets (after taking a fee for themselves originating the loan). Exotic and risky mortgages became commonplace and the brokers who approved these loans absolved themselves of responsibility by packaging these bad mortgages with other mortgages and reselling them as “investments.”
Thousands of people took out loans larger than they could afford in the hopes that they could either flip the house for profit or refinance later at a lower rate and with more equity in their home – which they would then leverage to purchase another “investment” house.
A lot of people got rich quickly and people wanted more. Before long, all you needed to buy a house was a pulse and your word that you could afford the mortgage. Brokers had no reason not to sell you a home. They made a cut on the sale, then packaged the mortgage with a group of other mortgages and erased all personal responsibility of the loan. But many of these mortgage backed assets were ticking time bombs. And they just went off.
The housing market declined
The housing slump set off a chain reaction in our economy. Individuals and investors could no longer flip their homes for a quick profit, adjustable rates mortgages adjusted skyward and mortgages no longer became affordable for many homeowners, and thousands of mortgages defaulted, leaving investors and financial institutions holding the bag.
This caused massive losses in mortgage backed securities and many banks and investment firms began bleeding money. This also caused a glut of homes on the market which depressed housing prices and slowed the growth of new home building, putting thousands of home builders and laborers out of business. Depressed housing prices caused further complications as it made many homes worth much less than the mortgage value and some owners chose to simply walk away instead of pay their mortgage.
Paul
February 28th, 2012
9:37 am
NewtiePewtie
“The Dems ought to worry if Gen. David Petraeus gets in the race….”
What makes you think a guy who’s enjoyed the benefits of socialized medicine all his life and who experienced a decade-long, unnecessary war that killed and maimed many of his friends is a Republican?
Adam
February 28th, 2012
9:37 am
Ennis: I have watched plenty of Obama’s speeches, including at the national prayer breakfast. Also that one where that guy was yelling that he was the anti-christ. You know, the one where he yelled first “Jesus Christ is Lord” and Obama said “I believe that too.”
Mick
February 28th, 2012
9:37 am
doom
Doomy logic – let me get this straight, you exonorate bush of everything that happened on his watch yet you seem to blame everything that is going on now – on obama? All the good things are because of repub. policies? Uh-huh, there you go, you really can’t argue with a cinderblockhead…
Midori
February 28th, 2012
9:37 am
so Ennis — when Obama attended Rev. Wright’s church was he just faking it or had other motives?
Or is Rev. Wright a muslim too? That would pretty much explain his “god d*mn america” comments, wouldn’t it?
Paul
February 28th, 2012
9:38 am
NewtiePewtie
Oh, sorry…. I realize you meant Gen Petraeus would challenge Pres Obama for the Democratic nomination and that would be messy for Democrats.
Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
February 28th, 2012
9:38 am
I’d like to say that “crossing over” is just plain wrong.
I did it once – when Ralph Reed ran here in GA. No way I could fathom that putz representing the state in anything.
USinUK
February 28th, 2012
9:39 am
““The Dems ought to worry if Gen. David Petraeus gets in the race….””
there’s LOADS of things to worry about.
that ain’t one of them.
Granny Godzilla
February 28th, 2012
9:39 am
santorum is getting secret service protection today
tweet I read:
“Well in my day a candidate held a gun tightly between his knees”
USinUK
February 28th, 2012
9:40 am
GG –
USMC
February 28th, 2012
9:41 am
Bush Was Blamed For Gas Prices By The Left, But Obama Gets A Pass, Hypocrisy? Yes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oaq2fHiOOY
LOL!
Adam
February 28th, 2012
9:41 am
there’s LOADS of things to worry about.
that ain’t one of them.
I got 99 problems but Petraeus ain’t one….
Midori
February 28th, 2012
9:41 am
I did it once – when Ralph Reed ran here in GA. No way I could fathom that putz representing the state in anything.
LOL Finn!! Desperate circumstance promote desperate measures
Adam
February 28th, 2012
9:41 am
Bush Was Blamed For Gas Prices By The Left, But Obama Gets A Pass, Hypocrisy? Yes!
What’s your point?
Jm
February 28th, 2012
9:44 am
Steve USA 9:24
Hilarious
Irrational
If you think Iran is creating enriched uranium and developing nuclear missile payload integration for nukes in order to run their power plants, you’re clueless
Midori
February 28th, 2012
9:45 am
Say what you will about Obama, at least he is AWARE of the problem:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004250068_bush29.html
ByteMe
February 28th, 2012
9:45 am
Jay, I think your analysis is wrong. If Romney wins AZ while losing MI, it’s a push and the bet rides another week into Super Tuesday. If Romney wins MI slightly, it’s also a push. A big win in the face of polls saying otherwise, and he takes the pot and goes all-in on Super Tuesday to force everyone else to fold.
Obama’s not the only poker player out there. Romney also plays… and he appears to bluff a lot and chatters way too much when he’s bluffing (there’s your tell).
(ir)Rational
February 28th, 2012
9:45 am
Adam – The point is that they have no point, and nothing they can say of relevance to the topic. They think they’re winning something by pointing out things that everyone already knows, and if you challenge them on something, they get belligerent or pretend they didn’t see your post. It is interesting to watch though. Do you think they all have a secret blog where they get together and compare notes before they come here so they’re all on the same page?
Paul
February 28th, 2012
9:45 am
USMC
For the umpteenth time:
Democrats assailed Pres Bush for rising gas prices and Republicans said they were wrong.
Now Republicans assail Pres Obama for rising gas prices and Democrats say they are wrong..
So which is it?
ByteMe
February 28th, 2012
9:45 am
“America needs means testing for gas”
No, they need drug testing for gas.
Think about how that would play in Rightwingnutistan.
Jm
February 28th, 2012
9:46 am
“What’s your point?”
That you liberals are morons.
Simple answer to a stupid question.
St Simons - we're on Island time
February 28th, 2012
9:46 am
Could you cons keep the wah-wah screeching down?
You’re harshing the bootiful vibe of de island mon
Butch Cassidy
February 28th, 2012
9:47 am
godless heathen – “But I think that it will increase the price of gas is a weak argument also.”
Your somewhat right in that regard. The prices will continue to fluctuate up or down in reaction to to the market. However, what the pipeline does is makes it cheaper for Canada to move the oil to the coastal refineries. Rather than pay the transportation costs of refining the product and then having it shipped to the ports for sale on the world market, they would have the ability to eliminate the “middle man” as it were and go direct. This is a definite cost saver for the company, but that savings is not being passed to the consumer. The pipeline simply makes it cheaper for the company to move the oil to the market in order to sell it at a higher price, which does nothing to help the U.S. in regard to our current fuel costs.
ByteMe
February 28th, 2012
9:47 am
“What’s your point?”
That you liberals are morons.
Aaaaaand he loses another argument on points and goes away sulking.
Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
February 28th, 2012
9:47 am
Are the cacti the right height in Arizona?
St Simons - we're on Island time
February 28th, 2012
9:48 am
Butch, 9:37, I’ll Stamp that.
ByteMe
February 28th, 2012
9:49 am
Are the cacti the right height in Arizona?
Depends on the viewpoint: Wyle E. Coyote or Road Runner?
Granny Godzilla
February 28th, 2012
9:49 am
“That you liberals are morons.”
EEEK Name Calling!
TaxPayer
February 28th, 2012
9:50 am
I see jm is still trying to impress. Keep trying. No one likes a quitter.
(ir)Rational
February 28th, 2012
9:50 am
Jm – Are you an expert on national security now? Do you have a security clearance and receive morning briefings from people in the intelligence community? No? Then while I’m admittedly clueless about what is actually going on, that is much better than someone who is clueless and doesn’t know it. Especially since you seem to be ready to sacrifice the lives of so many others to support your theory on what is going on in another country. But hey, you think what you want, and I’ll remain “clueless” and not beg my country to send more of my generation to their deaths.
USinUK
February 28th, 2012
9:50 am
“Aaaaaand he loses another argument on points and goes away sulking.”
I thought he lost it on a TKO … nowhere close enough for points to matter …
Granny Godzilla
February 28th, 2012
9:51 am
The cacti’s as high as a elephants eye, And it looks likes it’s climbing right up to the sky, OOOOHHHHH what a beautiful morning
~ Thomas Jefferson
Jm
February 28th, 2012
9:53 am
Irrational
I listen to what the IAEA says
You not so much
Butch Cassidy
February 28th, 2012
9:54 am
Jm – “I listen to what the IAEA says
You not so much”
Or GW Bush as it turned out.
Adam
February 28th, 2012
9:54 am
Do you think they all have a secret blog where they get together and compare notes before they come here so they’re all on the same page?
Drudge Report
Recon 0311 2533
February 28th, 2012
9:55 am
I guess this topic is designed to divert attention away from polling that has Romney and even Ron Paul beating Obama with Santorum only a few points behind in his match up. All this even before the Republican nominee emerges. The Republicans are in trouble and it’s all roses for the Democrats. Yeah right.
godless heathen©
February 28th, 2012
9:55 am
http://youtu.be/sQb_4hXLx2Q
USinUK
February 28th, 2012
9:56 am
dangitall, GG … now, when I picture Thomas Jefferson, this is what will come to mind:
http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/27/2769/DXJTD00Z/posters/gordon-macrae.jpg
USinUK
February 28th, 2012
9:56 am
“polling that has Romney and even Ron Paul beating Obama with Santorum only a few points behind in his match up”
yay!!
I’ll play
got a linkee?
Jm
February 28th, 2012
9:57 am
Self declared victory does not equal a win
Silly liberals
Your parents told you that you were above average didn’t they? Parents lie, sorry to break it to you.
ByteMe
February 28th, 2012
9:58 am
I guess this topic is designed to divert attention away from polling that has Romney and even Ron Paul beating Obama with Santorum only a few points behind in his match up
Awww, you’re upset because we aren’t talking about the latest Islamist threats or high gas prices being all the President’s fault, huh?
Let us know when the Republican Party clusterf**ck is over and then take a poll about a general election match-up. Until then, a poll about it is a mind game to be played.
Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")
February 28th, 2012
9:58 am
Do you think they all have a secret blog where they get together and compare notes before they come here so they’re all on the same page?
Media Matters
Butch Cassidy
February 28th, 2012
9:59 am
godless heathen – “http://youtu.be/sQb_4hXLx2Q”
Yep, the Dems were wrong then just as the Reps are wrong now. I watch that video and remain convinced that both sides are comprised of nothing more than pandering idiots.
Thanks godless!!
ByteMe
February 28th, 2012
9:59 am
USinUK: it’s gallup and the results are within margin of error, so there’s no clear “leading” at this point.
USinUK
February 28th, 2012
9:59 am
shorter jm 9:57 –
“am not! am not! am not!!! lalalalalalala I can’t hear you!!!”
Granny Godzilla
February 28th, 2012
9:59 am
My parents pointed at your parents and laughed
then warned about cross breeding….
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
10:01 am
“Doomy logic – let me get this straight, you exonorate bush of everything that happened on his watch yet you seem to blame everything that is going on now – on obama?”
Mick,
Nope. I’m not exonerating W. He is the one that started spending us into debt and got us into 2 expensive wars although the Ds also voted to go to war in Afgh at least. W deserves blame for the debt run up under his presidency- plain and simple. And he deserves partial blame for the housing meltdown as well.
“All the good things are because of repub. policies?”
Mick, I never said that. Didn’t even imply it. You are the one saying it. Not me. The Rs are simply the lesser of the 2 evils in my book. The only point that I’m saying in defense of W is that in 6 of his 8 years things were okay and were certainly better than under O. The unemployment and economic data bear this out. Its not even debateable.
“Uh-huh, there you go, you really can’t argue with a cinderblockhead…”
I didn’t stoop to calling you names Mick.
Jm
February 28th, 2012
10:01 am
Butch
I Didn’t listen to Bush either, correct
USinUK
February 28th, 2012
10:01 am
ByteMe – not according to this: http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx
(ir)Rational
February 28th, 2012
10:01 am
Jm – See, that’s funny, cause I looked, and couldn’t find anything on their site saying with certainty that Iran has nuclear weapons or is producing them. It says they asked to visit a military site, and Iran said no, but that in itself isn’t damning. I’m guessing you’re probably above military age, and wouldn’t have to worry about being sent over though if you get your wish, so go ahead and play armchair diplomat and military leader and pretend it is a good idea to send others to do what you think is right.
TaxPayer
February 28th, 2012
10:02 am
Uh Oh. It sounds like jm has found out the truth about Santa.
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Recon 0311 2533
February 28th, 2012
10:04 am
“got a linkee?”
I’d help you out but finding poll results on the internet isn’t that difficult.
Granny Godzilla
February 28th, 2012
10:04 am
every call for Iran war makes the gas cost even more!
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
10:04 am
Steve- USA
Media matters. BOOM!!! Now that was funny.
Stevie Ray
February 28th, 2012
10:05 am
JAY,
Funny stuff today. Two questions for you:
First, what do you think of that Christy cat from NJ?
Second, what do you think about BO’s about face on Keystone? I actually admire his unusual backbone on this…good play since the green and environmental cash contributions certainly are not going to GOP…
Butch Cassidy
February 28th, 2012
10:05 am
Jm – “I Didn’t listen to Bush either, correct”
Good, because he definitely didn’t listen to the IAEA.
Thulsa Doom
February 28th, 2012
10:06 am
“Are you an expert on national security now? Do you have a security clearance and receive morning briefings from people in the intelligence community?”
Irrational,
No. But i slept at a Holiday inn express last night.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 28th, 2012
10:07 am
(ir)Rational — “I don’t falsely assume anything. The intelligence reports that have been made public admit that they don’t know if Iran wants to use their nuclear program for energy or for weapons.”
Not so sure about that. There’s evidence that Iran is enriching uranium to about 20%, which is way higher than you need for a conventional reactor such as a power plant. Purity of 3-5% is sufficient for that. You have to get to ~90% to have weapons-grade uranium, but my understanding is that by the time you can enrich to 40-50%, you’ve done most of the work and your research is largely complete.
I think the burden of proof is on Iran to show what it’s doing that 20% enrichment for, and if they can’t provide a scientifically plausible explanation, then the only remaining conclusion I can reach is that they’re trying to make weapons-grade HEU. If they can’t provide that explanation, then I think measures stronger than sanctions must be considered in an expeditious manner.
USinUK
February 28th, 2012
10:07 am
“I’d help you out but finding poll results on the internet isn’t that difficult.”
in other words, your claim is unsubstantiated.
thanks for playing.
(ir)Rational
February 28th, 2012
10:08 am
Thulsa – That’s hilarious. Thanks for that.
USinUK
February 28th, 2012
10:08 am
“No. But i slept at a Holiday inn express last night.”
okay, that made me chuckle.
Stevie Ray
February 28th, 2012
10:09 am
I think this poll is likely to be disputed but see trial heat:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx
This is before the summer of $6 gas prices…should be big fun in November…
Stevie Ray
February 28th, 2012
10:09 am
I think this poll is likely to be disputed but see trial heat:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx
This is before the summer of $6 gas prices…should be big fun in November…
Mick
February 28th, 2012
10:09 am
doom
Yes, it’s frustrating. This game of politics is not very much fun anymore and there is so much at stake for the future of this country. I’m ok, my family will be ok, but the children, what will they be looking at in 20, 30 years? I completely disagree with modern republican philosopy and view most of their policies as dangerous to the middle class but mighty friendly to the wealthy class, as if they need any more help. It’s the same old story, ok man just kidding about you being a cinderblockhead, you’re actually more of a spirited debater with whom I disagree. At least you have the humor down…
Joe Hussein Mama
February 28th, 2012
10:10 am
Doom — “But is it all W’s fault. Do the Ds not hold any responsibility at all? Any?”
The Bush Administration demanded that states not impose stricter controls on mortgage issuance and underwriting. Georgia was one of the first states told *not* to stiffen their regulations when the General Assembly was considering it.
“Or fannie or freddie mac?”
Fannie and Freddie provided liquidity. They didn’t write the crappy, toxic mortgages.
“Or people themselves? Or Congress in the laws that they passed that made lending to people who otherwise had no business getting loans?”
Over 80% of the toxic loans were written by organizations that were *not* subject to Federal oversight. You are just repeating a baseless canard of the right.
Granny Godzilla
February 28th, 2012
10:12 am
Stevie Ray
“Second, what do you think about BO’s about face on Keystone?”
What about face?
He’s doing just what he said he would do.
Aren’t you just simmply delighted!
Imagine the aftermath of a Romney loss in Michigan – Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog) | Lexington Christian Radio
February 28th, 2012
10:12 am
[...] Article from http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/02/28/imagine-the-aftermath-of-a-romney-loss-in-michigan/…Imagine the aftermath of a Romney loss in Michigan – Atlanta Journal Constitution [...]
(ir)Rational
February 28th, 2012
10:13 am
JHM – That’s more of “in-depth” explanation than I’ve seen for it. On the news or otherwise. But I would still want that explanation and more concrete evidence before I would support an attack.
Doggone/GA
February 28th, 2012
10:13 am
Just out of curiosity…what are these posts where the name is a link?
Granny Godzilla
February 28th, 2012
10:14 am
Jeez…gas is getting expensive this summer…
started at 4 bucks now it’s 6 bucks..
can I get 8?
going once…..going twice….
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And yet the conservatives want us to subsidize somehow their addiction
Recon 0311 2533
February 28th, 2012
10:14 am
Stevie Ray, wait now for USinUK to declare it unsubstantiated and then go back to playing or pretending.
Butch Cassidy
February 28th, 2012
10:14 am
Stevie Ray – “This is before the summer of $6 gas prices…should be big fun in November…”
Agreed. If people vote for the next POTUS based soley on criteria that can’t be controlled by the administration, then they are truly idiots and deserve the government that they get.
ByteMe
February 28th, 2012
10:15 am
USinUK, the poll in question is this: http://www.gallup.com/poll/152918/Romney-Santorum-Closely-Matched-Against-Obama-Nationally.aspx
(ir)Rational
February 28th, 2012
10:16 am
Doggone – I believe it is where other bloggers/news sites are linking this blog.