Imagine the aftermath of a Romney loss in Michigan

If Mitt Romney loses Michigan tonight — and the polls say that’s possible — you’re gonna see some stuff happen. The Republican Party is gonna look like the scene in “Titanic” when people finally begin to understand: This unsinkable sucker could really go down.

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The band warms up the crowd for Mitt Romney's Michigan concession speech?

Such a defeat would not end Romney’s campaign — he has too many resources and too much organization to simply sink beneath the waters. But a loss in his native state would confirm to many of his fellow Republicans that an alternative must be found, and quickly. For Romney, the setback would be significant because it would damage the single most important asset that he possesses, which is credibility. Mr. Inevitable would look more and more like Mr. Inevitable Loser.

But what alternatives do the Republicans have? Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum are far more problematic than Romney. I’m beginning to hear strange noises out of Florida, as if Jeb Bush were starting to stir a bit, but that’s still a longshot. On the other hand, if Romney loses Michigan, those noises may increase in volume pretty quickly.

Truthfully, though, it’s still hard to envision the mechanism by which a late entry seizes control of the race. Those who have been campaigning all along aren’t going to meekly set aside their ambitions and allow some white knight to ride in and seize the prize.

And should Romney win in Michigan? Victory won’t do a lot for him, because it’s a state that he’s supposed to win pretty handily, against a set of opponents whom he ought to thrash. In college basketball terms, you don’t get many RPI points for beating weak opponents on your home court. A Romney win in Michigan, twinned with an expected win in Arizona, would merely extend the party’s current unsettled state of affairs.

– Jay Bookman

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USinUK

February 28th, 2012
8:39 am

I think a better question would be – what if he DOES win, but it’s only a single-digit margin … and if that margin is squeaky close …

that doesn’t exactly engender a whole lotta faith, either

USinUK

February 28th, 2012
8:41 am

of course, the “blame the dems” band is already cranking up downstairs … so, even if he loses, he wins with allegations of dem tampering

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 28th, 2012
8:41 am

Gonna be an interesting night on the news shows…

southdem

February 28th, 2012
8:42 am

Jeb Bush??? What is with the fascination with this family of untalented mediocrities? Oh, its the GOP, forget I asked.

I figured it out

February 28th, 2012
8:43 am

Meanwhile, across the hall, Wingdield is grasping at straws. Articles on traffic and Dems wanting but not wanting ACA. What’s up with that?

Jm

February 28th, 2012
8:44 am

It’ll mean there are lots of meddlesome Democrats in Michigan. That’s what it will mean.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

February 28th, 2012
8:46 am

Jm,

How are the gas prices looking today? :)

Who Will Win?

February 28th, 2012
8:46 am

Jay says….
If Romney loses Michigan, those noises may increase in volume pretty quickly….

What about if Newt loses Georgia? Will we hear the same noises? This Republican parade of candidates has got to be the most fascinating show on earth!!

Granny Godzilla

February 28th, 2012
8:46 am

I’m curious as to how the vote will be counted.

Like the Iowa caucus perhaps?

Will they leave entire counties out of the totals?

Will we see Republican Primary
voting and counting “irregularites” again?

If Mitt wins can we be sure he really won?

USinUK

February 28th, 2012
8:47 am

bahahahahaha … and there’s Jm – 8:44 – right on cue …

:lol:

thanks for illustrating my 8:41 (or, at least, stepping up to be the first to do so)

USinUK

February 28th, 2012
8:48 am

“This Republican parade of candidates has got to be the most fascinating show on earth!!”

http://www.forexlive.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/clown-car.png

Jm

February 28th, 2012
8:48 am

No one else is getting in the race. The powers that be are going too watch this play out and recognize if santorum wins the primary battle, then they have virtually no chance of winning. Santorum will get crushed because he has no fundraising ability for the general.

Top Republicans will let conservatives wake up to what they’ve done if mitt loses, prepare ardently for 2016, and focus on winning the senate.

Granny Godzilla

February 28th, 2012
8:49 am

Meddling again?

You mean the meddling invited by conservatives?

An Operation like that could cause chaos….

mmmm operation… chaos…sounds familiar

Who Will Win?

February 28th, 2012
8:49 am

USinUK@8:48 too funny!!

carlosgvv

February 28th, 2012
8:50 am

George W. Bush will probably go down in history as our worst President. When he left office, the chances another Bush would run were about zero. It’s a sign of just how bad the Republican Party has become when Jeb Bush starts to look good. Actually, I still think Chris Christie is their best bet.

Butch Cassidy

February 28th, 2012
8:50 am

Steve USA – How are the gas prices looking today?

They’ll probably go higher if the Keystone is built. Gotta love Free Trade!

“TransCanada Corp. estimates the pipeline would boost sales of Canadian-produced crude by $2 billion to $4 billion a year, according to an assessment submitted to Canada’s National Energy Board.

“The prices for those crudes in North Dakota and Canada will fetch closer to Gulf Coast prices, which are tied into the higher international market price,” said Tim Hess, an Energy Department analyst.

The reason is fairly simple. Even at maximum capacity, the Keystone line will move some 400,000 barrels per day of crude from Canada and the Midwest to global oil market. With the transportation discount removed, those barrels likely will be repriced to the higher global benchmark. “

Jm

February 28th, 2012
8:50 am

Steve USA higher! As Obama likes! Fact.

:)

Paul

February 28th, 2012
8:51 am

If Romney loses Michigan, I predict Newt will call for Romney and Santorum to end their campaigns.

If Romney wins Michigan, I predict Newt will call for Romney and Santorum to end their campaigns.

_________________________________________________________________________________

Seriously, Republicans don’t need a new candidate.

They need a new base.

USinUK

February 28th, 2012
8:51 am

“Top Republicans will let conservatives wake up to what they’ve done”

meh – Top republicans need to wake up to what THEY’VE done by courting the religious right.

(ir)Rational

February 28th, 2012
8:51 am

USinUK – Didn’t take long for your prediction to come true. 3 minutes, could possibly be a new record.

Jay

February 28th, 2012
8:52 am

As to complaints about Democrats crossing over to vote for Santorum, Romney has no grounds on which to complain, since he has bragged a while back about doing the same himself:

Republican presidential candididate Mitt Romney offered a new explanation today for why he supported a Democrat in 1992.

That year, Romney, then a registered independent, voted for former Sen. Paul Tsongas in the 1992 Democratic presidential primary. He told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, in an interview that will air Sunday on “This Week,” that his vote was meant as a tactical maneuver aimed at finding the weakest opponent for incumbent President George H.W. Bush.

“In Massachusetts, if you register as an independent, you can vote in either the Republican or Democratic primary,” said Romney, who until he made an unsuccessful run for Senate in 1994 had spent his adult life as a registered independent. “When there was no real contest in the Republican primary, I’d vote in the Democrat primary, vote for the person who I thought would be the weakest opponent for the Republican.”

Personally, I suspect that’s a story fabricated to give Romney cover for voting in the Dem primary. But he’s on the record as supporting and even participating in the practice, so grumbling about it now is — shocker alert!! — hypocritical.

Butch Cassidy

February 28th, 2012
8:52 am

Jm -”higher! As Obama likes! Fact.

higher! As the free market dictates! Fact.:)

Brosephus

February 28th, 2012
8:52 am

It’ll mean there are lots of meddlesome Democrats in Michigan. That’s what it will mean.

USinner

I’d say the band’s fired up!!! It took 3 minutes…

Newt has Georgia on his mind....

February 28th, 2012
8:52 am

Jay

February 28th, 2012
8:53 am

And Paul, that’s exactly right.

Jm

February 28th, 2012
8:54 am

Butch admits again that what the president decides impacts oil prices

Butch is proving liberals wrong

Good job Butch

ty webb

February 28th, 2012
8:54 am

Synopsis: democrat blogger thinks Mitt has to win Michigan, but, if he wins Michigan, it’s not really that big of a deal.

I’m just glad Jay’s has a new blog up today. I thought he’d be out of contention after shooting his wad with that tome to Obama yesterday.

Thulsa Doom

February 28th, 2012
8:56 am

The Dems are tampering again? Say it aint so. The same party that gave us the 1960 election?

So are the Dems simply encouraging Dems to vote in the Repub primary? Or are they up to their usual tricks of picking up homeless folks, plying them with cigs, beer, and $5 and driving them to polling stations to vote?

Adam

February 28th, 2012
8:56 am

Meddlesome Democrats?

“And I would have gotten away with it too if it hadn’t been for you MEDDLESOME DEMOCRATS!”

Butch Cassidy

February 28th, 2012
8:57 am

Jm – “Butch admits again that what the president decides impacts oil prices”

Jm admits that the Keystone XL would not lower the price of gas despite his many previous positngs that it should be built and that Obama is a loser for not doing so. And that Republicans are for the nationalizing of the oil industry in order to control the free market.

Good job Jm!

Jay

February 28th, 2012
8:57 am

Ty, you’re welcome to explain how that analysis is wrong in any way. Go ahead, try it.

(ir)Rational

February 28th, 2012
8:58 am

USinUK – Why did you have to give them that idea? I mean, we might have been able to have a nice conversation except they’ve already high jacked the blog with nonsense.

Adam

February 28th, 2012
8:58 am

Thulsa: Or are they up to their usual tricks of picking up homeless folks, plying them with cigs, beer, and $5 and driving them to polling stations to vote?

Prove it.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 28th, 2012
8:59 am

prepare ardently for 2016

Yeah, just skip over 2014, please.

Talking Head

February 28th, 2012
8:59 am

I think you’ve gone a little over the top with the Titanic analogy, Jay. Let’s wait and see what the counts look like after Super Tuesday next week before we start to talk about the end of the Republican Party.

Thulsa Doom

February 28th, 2012
8:59 am

“George W. Bush will probably go down in history as our worst President”

Carlosgvv,

Thank God you just woke up from that coma that you’ve been in for the last 3 years. You woke up to a pretty bad situation with the debtload greater, paltry economic growth, and unemployment substantially worse than under W. And when they drive you away from the hospital take notice of the gas prices also.

Normal

February 28th, 2012
8:59 am

Jay

February 28th, 2012
9:01 am

Talking, the Titanic analogy applies to the Romney campaign, not necessarily the GOP.

St Simons - we're on Island time

February 28th, 2012
9:01 am

ok, get this outta the way – gas prices are at $2 fitty…oh wait they’re not
thanks to Republican-protected speculation in da freeee freedum market
man. AM radio wore that talky point out yesterday.

the only question is, Who will it be in the broken convention?
I think this is their plan all along. They’ve tried to sell Rmoney to
the snakehandlers for 7 years now, and ching-No Sale. And a 2 month
candidacy with hopefully no time for Obama the Black Mammmmba
to attack – is their only hope.
Who will it beeee?

Ennis

February 28th, 2012
9:02 am

If Romney loses today…. We don’t need to wait for November. Just give the gavel to the Muslim and be done with it.

Normal

February 28th, 2012
9:02 am

Seriously folks…
No, really. Isn’t it true that the Democrats can vote in Michigan today? Won’t that skew the vote?

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 28th, 2012
9:02 am

Anyone stay up for the whole race?

Butch Cassidy

February 28th, 2012
9:02 am

Thulsa Doom – “And when they drive you away from the hospital take notice of the gas prices also.”

Yes, please take notice of the higher gas prices if the Republican backed Keystone XL pipeline ever becomes a reality. Or, you may get lucky and the Republican dream of a nationalized oil industry becomes a reality in their attempt to socialize free trade.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 28th, 2012
9:03 am

Just give the gavel to the Muslim and be done with it.

Well said! Bravo

Normal

February 28th, 2012
9:03 am

Ennis, get outtis… Muslim, indeed…what a hoot!

Mick

February 28th, 2012
9:03 am

doom

You can try to give the previous guy a pass all you want but he set the table for the disaster that is today’s economy. No matter who followed him – it was going to take a lot of digging out. In fact, if it took eight years to create this mess, it will take just as ling to fix. As for any more bushes in the white house….Never again…

Adam

February 28th, 2012
9:04 am

Ennis: If Romney loses today…. We don’t need to wait for November. Just give the gavel to the Muslim and be done with it.

So let me get this right:
1) Romney losing would mean a guaranteed loss for the GOP in 2012
2) The President gets a gavel in November OR
3) Boehner is a Muslim

Do I have that about right?

Jm

February 28th, 2012
9:05 am

Usinuk predicting a discussion that was already occurring is as spectacular as someone predicting the sun will rise in the morning

Amazing job usinuk

What’s the gas price now? :)

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 28th, 2012
9:06 am

A land of 300 million people and these 4 guys are the best the Republican voters can come up with?

mwuahahahahahahahahahaha

Adam

February 28th, 2012
9:07 am

At least no one can accuse Ennis of being an educated snob. Who needs to know things like who gets the gavel and whether or not there is a religious test for office? Just take Fox, Rush, Drudge’s word for what the Constitution says and everything will be FINE. :D

Guy Incognito

February 28th, 2012
9:07 am

USinUK

February 28th, 2012
9:07 am

(ir) – “Why did you have to give them that idea? I mean, we might have been able to have a nice conversation except they’ve already high jacked the blog with nonsense.”

meh – they were already warmed up from downstairs – it was just a matter of time.

JohnnyReb

February 28th, 2012
9:07 am

Jay, what’s your take on the USA Today poll showing a majority of swing state voters oppose Obamacare? If they vote that way, Obama is in trouble regardless of the Repub nominee.

Thulsa Doom

February 28th, 2012
9:07 am

Adam, disprove it.

Jm

February 28th, 2012
9:07 am

Israel is helping protect America better than Obama

Thanks Israel. Israel will attack Iran before the end of the year. Chew on that prediction.

(ir)Rational

February 28th, 2012
9:09 am

USinUK – I have to say, one day it would be nice if there could be a good conversation held here without a bunch of nonsense. It would be even more amazing if we could hold a fact based conversation with everyone willing to back up their arguments with something more than conjecture. I’m probably dreaming too much though aren’t I?

bman

February 28th, 2012
9:10 am

“New orders for U.S. manufactured goods fell in January by the most in three years as demand fell across the board from machinery to aircraft, suggesting the economy started the year on weaker footing than expected. Economists had forecast orders falling 1.0 percent.”

You gotta love those expert economists…

Norma

February 28th, 2012
9:10 am

Jeb Bush is ready for his closeup now, Mr. DeMille.

Jm

February 28th, 2012
9:11 am

Doom

The unions are doing GOTV for santorum

Perhaps more surprising is Santorum asking democrats to come vote for him

Pathetic is what santorum is

Adam

February 28th, 2012
9:11 am

Thulsa: Adam, disprove it.

Shifting the burden of proof means you have conceded the argument.

Jay

February 28th, 2012
9:11 am

JohnnyReb, if the nominee is Romney, he cannot make the argument against ObamaCare. I mean, this is the man who insisted that his official portrait as governor of Massachusetts include a copy of his health-insurance reform plan. He cannot credibly turn around and condemn Obama for following his example.

Ennis

February 28th, 2012
9:12 am

It means that the GOP loses. The White House will remain the home address of BHO. and the repubs will have to figure out how to make their message resonate with middle class America. Hoot and Holler all you want, I personally think BHO is a Muslim in his heart. He doesn’t salute the Flag. He stands in front of a curtin filled with Muslim symbols and sayings when he addresses the public. If it walks and clucks like a duck

USinUK

February 28th, 2012
9:13 am

“It would be even more amazing if we could hold a fact based conversation with everyone willing to back up their arguments with something more than conjecture. I’m probably dreaming too much though aren’t I?”

to dreeeeaaaaaaaammmmmmm the impossible dreeeeeaaaaaammmmmm …

Adam

February 28th, 2012
9:13 am

Also, good job, Thulsa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

Congratulations on being ignorant on purpose. I accept your surrender.

(ir)Rational

February 28th, 2012
9:14 am

JohnnyReb – If they vote that way and the Republican nominee is Santorum, we’re all in trouble. Or rather, more trouble than we’re already in.

Mick

February 28th, 2012
9:14 am

ennis

Muslim, kenyan, socialist my my….does this garbage ever end???????

Butch Cassidy

February 28th, 2012
9:14 am

Jm – “What’s the gas price now?”

Why don’t you check the market and find out? Or, are you waiting for your Republican overlords to seize control of the industry?

Vote Republican=Free gas for everyone!

USinUK

February 28th, 2012
9:15 am

bman … interesting editing you’ve got there …

“The expiration at the end of 2011 of a tax incentive allowing full depreciation on equipment purchases may have prompted a slowdown in investment at the start of this year. At the same time, a strengthening auto industry may help keep factories at the forefront of the expansion that began in June 2009. ”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-28/durable-goods-orders-in-u-s-drop-4-marking-worst-decline-in-three-years.html

Aquagirl

February 28th, 2012
9:15 am

He stands in front of a curtin filled with Muslim symbols and sayings when he addresses the public.

Whoooo-weeeee—what crazycakes forwarded e-mail is THAT from?

Jm

February 28th, 2012
9:15 am

“a fact based conversation”

Liberals abandoned that long ago.

Adam

February 28th, 2012
9:15 am

Ennis: What about the gavel? Still think that’s the President’s to have when he takes office? Or maybe you meant he gets keys to the gas lever. :roll:

Thulsa Doom

February 28th, 2012
9:15 am

“You can try to give the previous guy a pass all you want but he set the table for the disaster that is today’s economy.”

The dreaded blame W card gets played. It was inevitable I suspect.

“No matter who followed him – it was going to take a lot of digging out.”

Blame W redux card.

“In fact, if it took eight years to create this mess, it will take just as ling to fix”

Blame W card with a dash or revisionist history thrown in. Folks keep forgetting that for the middle years of the W presidency we had moderate economic growth, low unemployment, etc. The recession didn’t hit until late 2007. But don’t let the facts get in the way of revisionist history.

St Simons - we're on Island time

February 28th, 2012
9:15 am

got to the office at 9 today……
’cause I early voted for lil Ricky hahahaha
never saw so many Obama bumperstickers. hahaha
my work is done – now les go surfin’

Brosephus

February 28th, 2012
9:16 am

Anyone stay up for the whole race?

Not me, I gave up after Montoya did his tribute to Fireball Roberts. :)

(ir)Rational

February 28th, 2012
9:16 am

Jm – Exactly how is provoking an unnecessary war in the Middle East protecting America? I don’t think Israel cares about us except whether we’ll join them if they get in over their heads. They care about themselves and what is best for them (as they should), which is what the US should care about. Please explain that one to me though.

Adam

February 28th, 2012
9:16 am

Butch: “Romney’s gonna buy me a brand new Escalaaaade!”

Jm

February 28th, 2012
9:17 am

Butch’s rants have become completely unhinged

Poor guy

Ennis

February 28th, 2012
9:18 am

I used the gavel as a symbol of control. Just about every govment hearing, meeting, etc has a person with a gavel to control. Just a symbol. Ah, u rite about being uneducated, Went to Colorado State University, which is (I’M guessing here) not a school in the SEC.

(ir)Rational

February 28th, 2012
9:18 am

Bro – My TV was tuned in to Fox and I just happened to finish one show on DVR right before that happened. I have to question how come he was riding so close that he hit the service truck during a caution lap. Is that something that happens frequently? Yeah, I know, surprising, a redneck from the country that has never watched NASCAR.

Adam

February 28th, 2012
9:18 am

“Cross our hearts and hope to die, we believe in lower gas prices. Just hand over the White House to us. We will do oil markets better and it won’t cost ANYBODY – ANYTHING!”

Brosephus

February 28th, 2012
9:18 am

I’m probably dreaming too much though aren’t I?

Yep.

jconservative

February 28th, 2012
9:19 am

“Top Republicans will let conservatives wake up to what they’ve done if mitt loses, prepare ardently for 2016, and focus on winning the senate.”

I agree with Jm on this.

What I have never understood is why any party would allow people in the other party to vote in their primary. To me that is just dumb. Better a convention or caucus.

Remember Bo Callaway and Lester Maddox? That was a real lesson in how to out smart yourself.

And. It appears that Republicans are determined to keep Obama in the White House, apparently believing that is better than 8 years of Romney in the White House.

What’s the word? P-U-R-I-T-Y.

Thulsa Doom

February 28th, 2012
9:19 am

Adam,

Here’s my white flag of surrender. If you want to beat up on me some more I’ll be in Detroit as a paid adviser to O passing out beer and lotto tickets for voters willing to push the S button for Santorum.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=white+flag+of+surrender+pictures&view=detail&id=C66AB85E666BD93C30D220D7A5BEEF2B8F606D4C&first=0&qpvt=white+flag+of+surrender+pictures&FORM=IDFRIR

bman

February 28th, 2012
9:19 am

USinUK .. .. I didn’t edit anything. I just didn’t want to take up an entire page. However, the link you just posted is the news injected with opinions, not facts.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46554315

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

February 28th, 2012
9:20 am

Butch – Vote Republican=Free gas for everyone!

No I think that was Democrats.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36×8rTb3jI

USinUK

February 28th, 2012
9:20 am

“Vote Republican=Free gas for everyone!”

Because Anything Else is Sociamalism!

Brosephus

February 28th, 2012
9:20 am

(ir)Rational

Nah. He was riding along the yellow line, and something in his car broke. He lost control and slid into the truck. I’m guessing it was something in his drivetrain that snapped because he was reporting a vibration in every gear right before that accident.

Mick

February 28th, 2012
9:20 am

doom

Bury your head in the sand, the real estate collapse, the result of the ownership society and regulators looking the other way is the problem. Why is the middle class in tatters? They are all broke from equity lines, flipping real estate. You conveniently overlook all that as if it didn’t matter. Bush was handed a surplus, squandered it, eviscerated it and left the next guy a big pile of elephant dung. That’s not playing a card, that’s reality…you are in favor of historical amnesia, no friggin way…

JohnnyReb

February 28th, 2012
9:21 am

Jay, I understand your point on Romney if all things were equal. However, Romney is promising to repeal Obamacare. Everyone knows Obama will not.

(ir)Rational

February 28th, 2012
9:21 am

Jm – Just what verifiable facts have you brought to the table this morning?

Jm

February 28th, 2012
9:22 am

Irrational

You falsely assume it is unnecessary

A non-nuclear Iran will make the US safer too

Thank heavens for Israel, because it’s 3am and Obama has no effing idea what to do.

Adam

February 28th, 2012
9:22 am

Ennis: Went to Colorado State University, which is (I’M guessing here) not a school in the SEC.

You went to college? You SNOB :D

Seriously though your original statement is full of nonsense. The President isn’t a Muslim (not that it should matter considering policy making from an executive level has never been about Christian, Muslim, Atheist, or any other religious values), and the legislative branch gets the gavel, not the President. I also happen to think no matter who gets the nomination, they will lose to a sitting President with foreign policy success, several supported initiatives that he then signed into law, and calm resolve.

Thulsa Doom

February 28th, 2012
9:22 am

Those D voters that rely on social programs. Well they just loves themselves some high gas prices. And you know the Rs gotta be loving it too.

(ir)Rational

February 28th, 2012
9:22 am

Bro – That makes better sense. I was just captivated by the fireball. And a little jealous, cause while I’ve caused big fires, I’ve never had one blow like that. Gives me something to shoot for. :)

Butch Cassidy

February 28th, 2012
9:22 am

Thulsa Doom – Folks keep forgetting that for the middle years of the W presidency we had moderate economic growth, low unemployment, etc.”

They are equally forgetful of the fact that much of the economic growth during that period was based on a hyper inflated credit market driven by shoddy lending practices and people using their homes as ATM’s thereby creating an unsustainable housing bubble which later imploded nearly destroying the world economy. And as for the low unemployment rate, would you care to show us how many jobs, i.e. construction workers, lending agents, real estate brokers, underwriters, mortgage sales, closing attorneys, etc…… at that time were tied to the aforementiond housing bubble?

Adam

February 28th, 2012
9:23 am

Thulsa: If you want to beat up on me some more I’ll be in Detroit as a paid adviser to O passing out beer and lotto tickets for voters willing to push the S button for Santorum.

Pics or it didn’t happen :D

Midori

February 28th, 2012
9:23 am

I’d like to say that “crossing over” is just plain wrong.

It’s was wrong when Republicans did it, and it’s wrong if Democrats do it.

And you guys are right about the last pResident. A complete and utter imbecile. And yet some continue to work so furiously hard to ignore and deflect all the damage that fool did during this 8 year tenure.

And those people are wrong, too.

godless heathen©

February 28th, 2012
9:23 am

Butch:

“The reason is fairly simple. Even at maximum capacity, the Keystone line will move some 400,000 barrels per day of crude from Canada and the Midwest to global oil market. With the transportation discount removed, those barrels likely will be repriced to the higher global benchmark. “

That’s the part of this I don’t get, because there are no refineries in North Dakota. The oil is going to the global market either way.

Jay

February 28th, 2012
9:23 am

Well Johnny, I still suspect we’ll get the chance to see who is proved right. I still think Romney is the odds-on favorite to win the nomination, and will get his chance to make that argument in the general.

Jm

February 28th, 2012
9:23 am

Irrational

I used to bring facts. I quit (mostly) after I figured out liberals don’t believe in facts.