Santorum: JFK speech on religion ‘makes you throw up’

In a famous speech in 1960 to a group of Baptist ministers in Houston, then-Sen. John F. Kennedy tried to convince his listeners that he would not take his orders from leaders of his Catholic faith but instead from his own conscience.

“I do not speak for my church on public matters,” Kennedy said, “and the church does not speak for me.”

Here’s the crux of that speech, which is available in its entirety here:

“I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute, where no Catholic prelate would tell the president (should he be Catholic) how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote; where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference; and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the president who might appoint him or the people who might elect him.

“I believe in an America that is officially neither Catholic, Protestant nor Jewish; where no public official either requests or accepts instructions on public policy from the pope, the National Council of Churches or any other ecclesiastical source; where no religious body seeks to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populace or the public acts of its officials; and where religious liberty is so indivisible that an act against one church is treated as an act against all.”

Former Sen. Rick Santorum, running in 2012 for the Republican presidential nomination, said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week” that Kennedy’s speech makes him want to vomit:

“To say that people of faith have no role in the public square? You bet that makes you throw up. What kind of country do we live that says only people of non-faith can come into the public square and make their case?”

“That makes me throw up and it should make every American who is seen from the president, someone who is now trying to tell people of faith that you will do what the government says, we are going to impose our values on you, not that you can’t come to the public square and argue against it, but now we’re going to turn around and say we’re going to impose our values from the government on people of faith, which of course is the next logical step when people of faith, at least according to John Kennedy, have no role in the public square.”

Santorum has badly misread Kennedy’s speech, in my opinion. JFK spoke strongly against letting church leaders dictate public policy to politicians who shared their faith; he said nothing about barring individuals of faith from the public square. Nor did he belittle the power of faith in informing a person’s conscience.

It’s also important to note that Kennedy speech’s was very well-received at the time. In fact, as David Halberstam later wrote in “The Powers That Be,” “it became a staple of the campaign, hundreds and hundreds of copies of the film were made and it was shown whole, used for spots, and played and played again, and most significantly, used as a means of advancing him — with Kennedy coming into a given area they could build interest in him this way.”

Today, more than 60 years later, it makes Santorum want to vomit.

– Jay Bookman

580 comments Add your comment

HDB

February 27th, 2012
7:44 am

Santorum wants to create a theocracy…….let him run for President of Afghanistan….

HDB

February 27th, 2012
7:44 am

Santorum wants to create a theocracy…….let him run for President of Afghanistan….

Brad Steel

February 27th, 2012
7:45 am

googling santorum makes me wanna vomit.

Brad Steel

February 27th, 2012
7:45 am

…..after giggling

Jay

February 27th, 2012
7:45 am

Oh, and Happy Birthday, Mick!

Happy Kine and The Mirth Makers

February 27th, 2012
7:49 am

And you Mr Bookman, with your constant regurgitation of the liberal non-sense, make us all want to “toss our cookies.”

ByteMe

February 27th, 2012
7:50 am

Does Santorum’s second paragraph even make any real sense or is it just a bunch of strung-together Palinisms?

TaxPayer

February 27th, 2012
7:52 am

Every time I hear Santorum speak, it looks like he’s vomiting. Or farting.

ByteMe

February 27th, 2012
7:52 am

And you Mr Bookman, with your constant regurgitation

Who let the trolls out… woof woof…

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2012
7:53 am

Santorum as a Valley Girl:

“It’s like BARF me out.”

ByteMe

February 27th, 2012
7:54 am

Gag me with a secular spoon. Totally.

Jm

February 27th, 2012
7:54 am

More much ado about nothing

All santorum was saying is you shouldn’t have to be an atheist or have to hide your religion in order to run for president

Related to all the oil related posts

Read folks

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-27/with-gas-tax-on-empty-u-s-must-find-new-way-to-fund-roads-view.html

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2012
7:55 am

Fly-on-the-Wall

February 27th, 2012
7:56 am

People like him are just plain scary. Next he’ll be asking for a religious test for the office of the President.

How can we be a great nation when people like Sanitorium want church doctrine committed to before the Constitution? This is a very dangerous path he takes for the whole country.

Mick

February 27th, 2012
7:57 am

Jay

Thanks…life is great and can only get better! I was a mere tyke when kennedy was president, what an intellect he had and just by his standards, nixon included. Santorum is a shrunken head and an embarassment to this country…yet, we persevere, republicans, your party is off the rails…

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2012
7:57 am

Fly-on-the-Wall

February 27th, 2012
7:58 am

Excellent graphic there Granny – I love it.

Normal

February 27th, 2012
8:00 am

I do believe that Mullah Santorum would want to grow a beard and don a turban…the dude is scary nuts.

Fly-on-the-Wall

February 27th, 2012
8:00 am

Wonder how long it will take for the ‘deflectors’ to show up and some how blame all of this on Obama?

F Brancher

February 27th, 2012
8:02 am

Isn’t it a shame how the ultra-conservative nuts are so oppressed in America?

Normal

February 27th, 2012
8:03 am

jm,
diverting all ready?

Bud Wiser

February 27th, 2012
8:06 am

Speaking of dead Kennedys, RFK’s son number 10 (that we know of) has been caught on video tape kicking a nurse from an elevator as he was trying to take his newborn child “outside for some air”, removing the baby from post-delivery without the doctor’s orders or permission.

As reported by USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-02-25/douglas-kennedy-nurse-charges/53240426/1

Another white trash Kennedy sliming their way into the news.

And Bookman digs up the words of a media sanctified dead Kennedy for lack of anything else to say? In rebuttal to Rick Sanitorium (misspelling intended)?

His interpretation of what JFK said seems fairly accurate, but the trained media stooge attack dogs are always looking for a leg cuff to grab on, or a fire hydrant.

He has your interpretation, you have yours. So what?

Michael

February 27th, 2012
8:07 am

Santorum is one scary baby faced dude.

Peadawg

February 27th, 2012
8:08 am

“googling santorum makes me wanna vomit.”

^^This

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2012
8:09 am

Budwiser goes direct to fire hydrant.

Ironically appropriate.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:10 am

Normal – 8:03 – it’s worked so well for him all this time, why change strategy?

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
8:10 am

Santorum is just the male Michelle Bachmann – a complete loon.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:10 am

Finn – 8:10 – and, considering how strongly he’s running, that should tell you the mental state of the GOP …

Religion, Politics and Greed

February 27th, 2012
8:11 am

Everyone should have a CHOICE to worship as they please. It is a shame how religion is used to manipulate issues and people. Religion needs to remain out of politics!

Normal

February 27th, 2012
8:11 am

Michael

February 27th, 2012
8:07 am
Yeah,
He reminds me of “Chuckie”…

Gale

February 27th, 2012
8:12 am

I wonder if it would help if the media ignored him/Santorum? Nah. The rabble will get excited about the next crazy.

Mick

February 27th, 2012
8:13 am

bud

Yes, let’s try to find another kennedy to kick around, they’ve all done so much harm to this country. Santorum is foolish to go there, his interpretation? Not even close to what kennedy was saying, just goes to show you that even with all the degree’s santorum possesses, you can still aspire to be an idiot…

Stevie Ray

February 27th, 2012
8:13 am

JAY,

Agreed..the problem we have is that if you pay attention, all the mega-churchs of the caucasian variety are starting to sprout Santorum for Pres lawn signs and campaigns…Yikes!

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2012
8:13 am

A Santorum-Spread-on-JFK thread?

Clearly, Jay takes his orders from Mick.

Or, maybe, just from guys who just happen to be celebrating a birthday?

Tommy Maddox

February 27th, 2012
8:14 am

The notion of sharing interns with your colleagues should make you want to throw up.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
8:15 am

He has your interpretation, you have yours. So what?

Yeah, Jay. How dare you question one of our public servants looking to reach the highest seat in the land.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
8:17 am

even with all the degree’s santorum possesses, you can still aspire to be an idiot…

Even W has degrees from some of the top schools in the country. You don’t have to be too bright to get those.

Stevie Ray

February 27th, 2012
8:17 am

GRANNIE and FLY,

Imagine us actually agreeing on something…Santorelli eats too much flesh and drinks too much blood on Sundays….Is Catholicism his brand of tribe?

I’m at a point where I feel the only candidate that could soundly whip the spineless blame-master is Chris Christy…pound for pound my favorite. Too bad he not in race….interesting if he gets in at convention….

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
8:17 am

So almost 50 years after JFKs death, Santorum is just now taking notice of his position on faith and elected office? What’s next, if selected as the candidate to beat Obama, will he base his platform on dismanteling LBJ’s policies?

AU Liberal in ATL

February 27th, 2012
8:17 am

Everything about Rectorum makes me want to vomit. I bet he wins Georgia. Another reason to vomit.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:17 am

“all the mega-churchs of the caucasian variety are starting to sprout Santorum for Pres lawn signs and campaigns…Yikes!”

EXCELLENT!!!!

a guaranteed Obama win!

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2012
8:18 am

I didn’t exactly want to vomit, but I did kind of feel sorry for the Mittster when he attempted to channel JFK during the last general election cycle, when he gave his own “I promise I won’t be my church’s robot if you make me Preznit” speech that, of course, paled horribly in comparison to JFK’s.

Mick

February 27th, 2012
8:18 am

stands

Amazing how jay can whip up a column in about 1.1 minutes after a request? Hey, it’s my b-day, gotta roll with it…

Jay

February 27th, 2012
8:19 am

Tommy, I’d fully agree with you on that one. I was never a huge JFK fan, but that revelation was grotesque.

Fly-on-the-Wall

February 27th, 2012
8:19 am

Hey Bud – yes the misspelling WAS intented. This guy is dangerous to this nation – period.

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
8:19 am

How about the democrat party of Georgia about to be insolvent???? Wouldn’t you rather concentrate on that Jay???

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
8:20 am

Joseph – “Wouldn’t you rather concentrate on that Jay???”

I’m sure he would, but as long as the GOP candidates continue to make themselves look like idiots, he has no choice.

Jerome Horwitz

February 27th, 2012
8:24 am

This remark, along with his recent comment regarding college education for the masses, indicates that this man is not ready for prime time. There is a good reason why he was turned out of office in PA by a landslide. Imagine calling Obama elitist for wanting everyone to go to college. Does he want to permeate a permanent underclass?

Fly-on-the-Wall

February 27th, 2012
8:24 am

Stevie – amazing as it seems we can reach across the isle and agree on somethings. I may not care for Chris Christy but at least he can govern to some extent.

jconservative

February 27th, 2012
8:24 am

Whether one does a casual or intense reading of the US Constitution, one must come away from that reading with the knowledge that the US Constitution is the most Religion Neutral governing document on the planet.

Anyone who wants to change that does not deserve the White House.

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
8:25 am

Butch Cassidy:

Thats an obvious opinion from a liberal. Most sane people think its a good crop of candidates. Consider the utter failure they will have to run against….

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
8:26 am

Jerome Horowitz – ” Imagine calling Obama elitist for wanting everyone to go to college.”

It’s not limited to Santorum. Gingrich accused us New Yorkers of being “Elitists” who live in high rises and ride the subway. Because you know, nothing says elitist like riding the subway. :)

AmVet - Just say no to the GOP's fascist theocracy.

February 27th, 2012
8:27 am

As repulsive as Ricky’s ideas are, at least he is consistent and proud of his juvenile rhetoric.

JFK though flawed, was a true American hero. A man of great courage and backbone. Santorum is a disgusting, never done a thing, little twerp not qualified to have ever shined JFK’s shoes.

The good news, of course, is that in about six weeks he will just be another discarded oddity on the mountain of discarded neo-con oddities…

Willydoit?

February 27th, 2012
8:27 am

Kennedy wasn’t really all that religious anyway, he just did the church thing for appearances.
He cheated on his wife many many many many many many times over and over and over…..not that there’s anything wrong with that, if you’re into that kinda thing…or if your old lady don’t object!

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:27 am

Joseph – you might like Blogger … although I prefer WordPress …

either way, starting a blog of your own is free …

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
8:27 am

Joseph – “Consider the utter failure they will have to run against….”

I have, which is why it’s even more disturbing that the GOP couldn’t come up with a better set of candidates to run against him.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:28 am

“Most sane people think its a good crop of candidates. ”

:lol:

although, I shouldn’t laugh … that’s just sad …

Jerome Horwitz

February 27th, 2012
8:28 am

Jay – I was indifferent of JFK until I read some books on the Cuban missle crisis. For all his foibles his leadership probably kept up us from a nuclear confrontation. I cringe when I think what might have happened if Nixon were elected and let LeMay and the Joint Chiefs influence his thinking.

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2012
8:29 am

Santorum has badly misread Kennedy’s speech, in my opinion.

While it’s only my opinion, I don’t think he’s done any such thing. He didn’t “misread” anything. I think Rick Santorum is perfectly capable of understanding exactly what JFK said about his personal faith, and that Rick is deliberately misrepresenting it for stupid people who will vote for him because they need to hear such things.

Such is the coarseness of primary retail politics in 2012.

Put another way: Rick is not stupid. He is a liar.

AmVet - Just say no to the GOP's fascist theocracy.

February 27th, 2012
8:30 am

…a good crop of candidates.

It sure is, USinUK.

For the Democrats.

The Bush/Cheney loyalists and apologists have unwittingly destroyed the GOP for awhile. Heaven knows when it will regain any credibility or earn the trust of the American people again…

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
8:30 am

$3.59 a gallon?????

Citizen of the World

February 27th, 2012
8:31 am

Santorum is *deliberately* misreading JFK’s speech, just like he twists President Obama’s words about education — his willful ignorance and anti-intellectualism boggle the mind; that is, among people who use theirs.

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
8:31 am

Joseph – “$3.59 a gallon?????”

Walking?????????

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
8:32 am

Joseph – “$3.59 a gallon?????”

Public Transportation????????

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
8:32 am

Joseph – “$3.59 a gallon?????”

Not buying an Expedition??????????

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2012
8:32 am

“Does he want to permeate a permanent underclass?”

Sure he does. How can he feel superior if no one will be inferior?

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
8:33 am

Joseph – “$3.59 a gallon?????”

Free Markets?????????

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:33 am

“Walking?????????”

mass trans?????

car pooling????

cycling?????

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
8:33 am

Obama slamming American religous institutions and apoloigizing to radical muslims… Go figure…

Jm

February 27th, 2012
8:34 am

“I was never a huge JFK fan”

Hilarious. Absolutely priceless bunk.

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
8:34 am

Butch Cassidy:

Obama?????

TaxPayer

February 27th, 2012
8:34 am

Most sane people think its a good crop of candidates.

Yep. All they need is a little fertilizer and water and a healthy dose of Roundup.

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2012
8:34 am

Hoping people will be stupid enough to blame Obama for it??????????

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2012
8:34 am

oh, and…Threadjacking???????????

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2012
8:34 am

“that Rick is deliberately misrepresenting it for stupid people who will vote for him because they need to hear such things. ”

I agree. I tried to post pretty much the same thing, but you beat me to it!

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
8:35 am

Joseph – “Butch Cassidy:

Obama?????”

Ask someone who voted for him????????

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2012
8:35 am

Bitter ex-AJC employee???????????

Ron Myers

February 27th, 2012
8:36 am

After an “interpretation” like that, I feel a name change is in order – it should be Rick “Sanitarium”. Our country has shown it will elect male, female, Protestant, Catholic and Jew. Mr. Santorum wants to get us all fighting each other – a very devicive political strategy for running the country I would think. I would rather him tell us all how he intends on dealing with the major issues of the day and not how he wants to have his religion tell us all how to act in our private lives.

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2012
8:37 am

“They get bitter, and they cling to guns, and religion, and hopes that fuel commodity vagaries will piss off the voting public eight months from now.”

–Thomas Jefferson

Normal

February 27th, 2012
8:38 am

Stands,
You said, “Put another way: Rick is not stupid. He is a liar.”

And I’m glad you said it first. My views on religion are pretty well known and I didn’t want to point out he’s a lair first because of that.If Rick Santorum is supposed to be the ideal of “Conservative Religion” with all of it’s piety, then why in blue blazes are they letting him get away with the lies he said about the Netherlands and now this? Where is the supposed “Goodness and Trueness” of these folks.

All I can say is this…”If Rick Santorum is the model of Christian values, then I am glad I am not a Christian. I will never be called a hyprocrit because of it.”

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
8:38 am

Butch Cassidy:

I wasn’t in the booth with ya sport…

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:39 am

“I wasn’t in the booth with ya sport…”

yeah, he was in the one NEXT To you, tapping his foot …

Jm

February 27th, 2012
8:39 am

Jay wouldn’t have been a screaming mad aggressive bestows style JFK fan.

He just would’ve had the posters, all the recordings, and gone to as many concerts as he could have. So I guess he wasn’t a “huge”, or gigsnticly insane fan. Just a really really big fan of the moonshot Camelot president.

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
8:39 am

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:40 am

“Rick is not stupid. He is a liar.”

I’ll see your liar …

and raise you a wanker …

TaxPayer

February 27th, 2012
8:40 am

When the Republicans have the likes of the Koch crooks and Friess and Adelson picking their candidates, this is what they get. They deserve no better.

carlosgvv

February 27th, 2012
8:41 am

Republican politicians have already made it crystal clear they are of the rich, by the rich and for the rich. Now Santorum is making it equally clear he wants a Christian government, preferably Catholic, to rule America. What is not clear at all, in fact totally beyond comprehension, is why so many millions of Republican voters actually support this kind contemptible behavior.

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2012
8:41 am

why in blue blazes are they letting him get away with the lies he said about the Netherlands and now this? Where is the supposed “Goodness and Trueness” of these folks.

Long answer: Read The Family if you haven’t already, to learn about the history of radical right wing evangelism in this country.

Short answer: Lying is a-ok with radical right-wing clerics.

Jm

February 27th, 2012
8:41 am

Bestows = Beatles

No idea how autocorrect came up wid dat

Willydoit?

February 27th, 2012
8:41 am

Why do democrats fear Christians in America but love Muslims in the Middle East?

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:42 am

Joseph – do you even READ what you post???

4 polls show a gain
1 poll shows a tie
3 polls show a loss

that’s a nosedive????

oy to the vey …

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
8:42 am

USinUK, is Scotland ready to break free of England? Interesting op-ed in today’s NYTimes.

AmVet - Just say no to the GOP's fascist theocracy.

February 27th, 2012
8:43 am

Speaking of great GOP candidates for the Dems, is Herman’s campaign still suspended?

Let’s review these great options over the past two elections…

Thompson
Tancredo
Gilmore
Brownback
Thompson
Keyes
Romney
Paul
Huckabee
Hunter
Giuliani
McCain
Pawlenty
Cain
Bachmann
Huntsman
Perry
Santorum
Romney, again
Paul, again
Gingrich

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzJGckMYO4

Normal

February 27th, 2012
8:43 am

So, let me get this straight…If ol’ Rick is elected President, the actual President would be the Pope?

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:44 am

Finn – “USinUK, is Scotland ready to break free of England?”

I hope so – we’ll come out a net winner with that devolution … Scotland (like many red states) is a net recipient of government funds

(of course, they’ll try to keep North Sea oil and we’ll fight them tooth and nail for it)

Jm

February 27th, 2012
8:46 am

Joseph

Oil prices are high for a variety of reasons

Obama has not helped the situation on the supply side. He hasn’t done anything on the demand side either, though his future CAFE requirements will help in the future. It is a flawed method of addressing demand though (Cafe)

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
8:46 am

USinUK:

Did you look at the dates when the polls were taken??? I realize its difficult for you but the gas prices will soon be taking a toll when Americans finally wakeup and realize that this President has put forth absolutly nothing to help….

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:46 am

“If ol’ Rick is elected President, the actual President would be the Pope?”

does that mean that the US will observe Saints Days and other Holy Days of Obligation???

now, THAT would be interesting …

Willydoit?

February 27th, 2012
8:47 am

The only thing JFK worshiped was the poontang! That I can respect!!

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
8:48 am

So much Republican candidate playing to a rabid base stupidity, so little time……

Jm

February 27th, 2012
8:48 am

“we’ll fight them tooth and nail for it”

Usinuk no longer an American. Awesome.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:48 am

Joseph – 8:46 – considering prices are set by the market, (and production is the highest its been in years), what EXACTLY do you think he should do.

and, please … show your work …

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
8:49 am

45% approve and 50% dissapprove… Looks like a winner there…

Jm

February 27th, 2012
8:49 am

Willydoit 8:47 while true, that was not your classiest post

Just saying.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:50 am

Jm – oh, how sweet …

you don’t seem to grasp the idea that I pay taxes here AND in the US … so have a vested interest in both …

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
8:53 am

USinUK:

He could use the strategy Bush did. A simple threat that he would open up more federal land for oil production and exploration. The only reason oil output is up in this country is because of private land. Obama has refused lease after lease on federal land. The leases that are now coming on-line are from the Bush administration…

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:54 am

so, Joseph … got a response???

what EXACTLY should the President do about the price of oil???

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
8:54 am

Obama and the democrats have proven that they want high gas prices.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:54 am

“A simple threat that he would open up more federal land for oil production and exploration”

and how does that help the price of oil today???

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
8:55 am

USinUK:

Do I need to write it in caps for you to understand…

Jm

February 27th, 2012
8:55 am

Usinuk

You identify as an Englander when you say “we”

Own up, traitor. Good riddance.

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
8:56 am

USinUK:

That’s exactly what Bush did. Touting algae is not only laughable but idiotic… Again look how his approvals plummeted after giving that ridiculous speech…. The public certainly don’t buy it…

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:56 am

Jm – I live in England. thus my monniker.

it’s not something that I’ve hidden.

well done on stating the obvious.

Normal

February 27th, 2012
8:56 am

USinUK,
Save your fingers from typing to Joseph. The man has no concept to the working of the global oil market and has absolutely no idea on how little the President can do about it. He is, (in my favorite word from you) a wanker.

Donovan

February 27th, 2012
8:57 am

Give us rational people a break. I do believe we can determine how to vote and who to vote for.

Needless to say, here is another installment of candidate bashing. This time it is dedicated to the anti-religious issue. Each and every man has his own opinion for whatever reason, so let it alone.
The common denominator here, however, is the Republican Party. Nothing more and nothing less.

First it was the Romney attack. He is a horrible Mormon, a flip-flopper, and a capitalist pig to Bookman and his peanut gallery.

Then there is the Gingrich attack. He is the baggage man, grand visionary debator, and ethics offender.

Then there is the Santorum attack. He is religious zealot, ex-senator who lost big, and the sweater vest idiot who liberals foolishly react to.

We all know how you people rode Perry on a rail with your contemptuous illustrations of Texas bravado and insinuations of Texas stupidity.

Since Paul is not in any kind of serious contention you progressives have left him alone so far.

The point is that we are tired of your ruthless and uncivilized campaigned assaults in order to prop up the worse presidential choice you have been dumb enough to support. The man’s record of uselessness and liberal high-jinx has already turned off this country. Your low class assault from the left only crystalizes America’s vote against Obama.

Willydoit?

February 27th, 2012
8:57 am

“Willydoit 8:47 while true, that was not your classiest post

Just saying.”

Yeah, sorry about that…don’t block me Jay!!!

AmVet - Just say no to the GOP's fascist theocracy.

February 27th, 2012
8:58 am

Once again I ask you fake conservative neo-cons what is your fall back strategy when the Uppity Muslin, Kenyan, Marxist, America-hating, business-hating socialist without a birth certificate gets re-elected?

Venezuela?

Singapore?

Four more years of emasculated b*tching?

Putting impeachment “on the table”? LOL.

NOW is the time to think about this, because it is coming at you like a freight train and you are just napping on the tracks…

Jm

February 27th, 2012
8:58 am

Joseph 8:54 that part is correct for sure. Except during election season when they realize they’ve shot themselves in the foot

(ir)Rational

February 27th, 2012
8:58 am

The more I read about Santorum the more I think he is a loon that needs to have his permanent address changed to the mental ward at the closest hospital. How do you interpret the 1st Amendment any differently than what JFK said? The government stays out of religion, and religion stays out of government. It really is a simple concept. How does he not understand?

kitty

February 27th, 2012
8:58 am

Did Santorum really say that speech makes him want to vomit? OMG, that man can’t even understand what he reads and he wants to run our country? I do not think so. He just gave Romney a huge sound bite to use against him. Sanitorium is a complete loon.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
8:59 am

Joseph – 8:56 – the peak gas prices that happened during hte Bush administration were caused by speculation (not to mention unrest in the middle ease)

the current peak gas prices??? the same.

both W and Obama can make speeches until the cows come home, neither make a difference.

mm

February 27th, 2012
8:59 am

“The leases that are now coming on-line are from the Bush administration…”

Did Rush tell you so?

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
9:00 am

not to be confused with the middle easT

St Simons - we're on Island time

February 27th, 2012
9:00 am

early votin’ for lil Ricky tomorrow – hehehee
he’s transformational!

oh, and bu…bu…bu..Obama!
bu…bu…bu…gas prices (forget Republic approved speculation!)
catapult the propaganda!

Jay

February 27th, 2012
9:01 am

Joseph tells us that Obama “could use the strategy Bush did” in bringing down oil prices.

It’s an interesting approach. In July of 2008, gasoline was selling for $4.12 a gallon, on average. Six months later, right before Obama’s inauguration, it was selling for $1.60.

In other words, the “Bush method” of bringing down gasoline prices was to crash the entire global economy so that nobody could afford to buy gasoline. It worked wonderfully too.

It’s important to remember that bit of history whenever you see statements like “the price of gasoline has more than doubled under President Obama.” While true, it’s only true because of the economic meltdown that occurred just before he took office.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2012
9:01 am

“he’s transformational!”

Pity he doesn’t transform back into an expensive car and then leave it at that.

TaxPayer

February 27th, 2012
9:03 am

I want to get back to low gas prices too. Is there a candidate out there willing to promise me $0.25/gallon gas again. Those were the days.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

February 27th, 2012
9:03 am

Warren Buffet on CNBC right now, he just said any child being born in America is going to have the greatest opportunity and life of any child born in any country in the world.

Too bad President Obama doesn’t agree. All I hear him saying is how difficult it is to be an American and how tough life is in America. Oh yeah, he needs to lie so in order to earn votes from the lower class.

Jm

February 27th, 2012
9:04 am

Santorum is immature

That would be a legitimate criticism

Instead we get this blather about JFK and santorum is crazy blah blah blah

Some responsible liberal commentators are needed. Conservatives and independents are confined to debating Lilliputians.

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
9:06 am

Jay:

Oil companies used the supply and demand smoke screen to raise oil prices along with natural disasters. Bush simply threatened them that he would open up more federal land.. I realize that you and your ilk don’t understand this strategy but it certainly worked.

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2012
9:07 am

Donovan

Your posts does not leave one with the impression that GOP voters have any will of their own.

You would have us believe they are weak and mindless lemmings horrendously suceptible to media bias.

Of course I agree with that….but as it was conservative media that led the charge against the buffet of Not-Romneys you still can’t figure out that you guys are your own worst enemies.

Great Old Punchline….again.

TaxPayer

February 27th, 2012
9:07 am

Jm’s mirror just cracked… again.

Jm

February 27th, 2012
9:08 am

Buffett also said America needs to stop abusing the banks and let the banks do their job, namely by getting the government out of the way from a regulatory standpoint

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
9:08 am

Jay:

I understand that Media Matters orders you in what tripe to spew daily but why not talk about something that actaully affects every American and what the President intends to do about it. High energy costs!

Jm

February 27th, 2012
9:09 am

Taxpayer your 9:03 was funny

Mick

February 27th, 2012
9:09 am

donovan

**First it was the Romney attack. He is a horrible Mormon, a flip-flopper, and a capitalist pig to Bookman and his peanut gallery.

Then there is the Gingrich attack. He is the baggage man, grand visionary debator, and ethics offender.

Then there is the Santorum attack. He is religious zealot, ex-senator who lost big, and the sweater vest idiot who liberals foolishly react to.

We all know how you people rode Perry on a rail with your contemptuous illustrations of Texas bravado and insinuations of Texas stupidity.

You finally nail something down correctly – nice work…

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
9:09 am

jm – “Obama has not helped the situation on the supply side. He hasn’t done anything on the demand side either”

Isn’t that the preferred method, do nothing? All I kept hearing from the GOP faithful is that we should have “done nothing” when the economy was imploding. We should have “done nothing” when the auto industry was dying. We should have “done nothing” to stabilize the credit markets. Now when Obama “does nothing” to lower your gas prices, you throw a hissy fit and scream intervention.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
9:10 am

Joseph – 9:06 – you seem to be totally ignoring the role that Wall Street plays in this little affair …

(here’s a hint: SPECULATORS SET THE FLIPPING PRICES)

Jm

February 27th, 2012
9:10 am

Joseph

The president doesn’t intend to do anything other than make energy costs go higher

And then redistribute wealth to help those he has hurt

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
9:13 am

for the numpties who think that the President has a Magic Button that sets oil prices:

The next time you drive to the gas station, only to find prices are still sky high compared to just a few years ago, take notice of the rows of foreclosed houses you’ll pass along the way. They may seem like two parts of a spell of economic bad luck, but high gas prices and home foreclosures are actually very much interrelated. Before most people were even aware there was an economic crisis, investment managers abandoned failing mortgage-backed securities and looked for other lucrative investments. What they settled on was oil futures.

http://money.howstuffworks.com/oil-speculation-raise-gas-price.htm

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
9:13 am

Joseph – “The president doesn’t intend to do anything other than make energy costs go higher”

Why should he do anything? Let the markets set the rates. It’s not the job of the free market or the President to ensure that gas prices make you feel all warm and comfy. You don’t like the prices, don’t buy the product.

Normal

February 27th, 2012
9:13 am

You know, jm got me to thinkin’…maybe, just maybe President Obama wants the gas prices to go way, way up because he owns lots and lots of Japanese motorcycle stock…think about it… :lol:

Jm

February 27th, 2012
9:13 am

Butch 9:09 Obama has done nothing to increase supply. Ge has done things that would reduce supply (increase prices)

Don’t play that stupid game with me butch

kayaker 71

February 27th, 2012
9:14 am

If liberals have longed for a secular president whose only religion is that of worshiping socialism and Marxism, you have found your man. “If you profess even and interest in organized religion, you have no place in the WH running this country”. I can see both sides of the issue but I disagree with Bookman’s spin on Santorum’s speech. Santorum is offended that someone of faith is deemed “not qualified” for leadership of this country. Tell that to Truman, Eisenhower, Carter, Reagan, George HW Bush, George W Bush…… all religious persons who, although they had mixed records of success, were not deemed a threat to our country because of their faith. Hell, Carter still teaches Sunday school at the Maranatha Baptist Church in Plains when he is in town. So if this is just another Santorum rant that seeks to criticize this man because of his faith, you lose Bookman. I don’t think with any elected president of this country that we are going be mandated to attend Jimmy Carter’s Sunday school class.

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
9:15 am

Jm – “Don’t play that stupid game with me butch”

You mean the game where everything is great as long as it meets your needs, but suddenly, when you get pinched, you want the government to step in and save you?

Jm

February 27th, 2012
9:15 am

Oil speculators. Oooooo the liberal boogeyman. Get under your beds liberals! Run!

carlosgvv

February 27th, 2012
9:16 am

Jm – Joseph

Big Business and The Republican Party absolutely treasure useful idiots like you.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
9:16 am

Jm

February 27th, 2012
9:17 am

Butch no the game where you twist my words

Socializing industry losses sucked buy was necessary because government is incompetent.

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
9:18 am

Jm – “Oil speculators. Oooooo the liberal boogeyman.”

Nothing wrong with speculators, they simply drive the market to maximum ROI. I fear the government trying to direct the market more than I fear the speculators.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
9:19 am

JamVet - Warren B. punks the punks

February 27th, 2012
9:19 am

Warren Buffett now has credibility among the mooching McConnell-bot Republicans???

When did that happen??

LOL…

…open up more federal land…

Federal land? You mean OUR land? The property and assets therein that is owned by we the people? And isn’t “open up” is just Republispeak for giving away?

Big business is against socialism, until it benefits them.

Mick

February 27th, 2012
9:19 am

yaker

Nice list of presidents, santorum is not qualified to carry their jock straps, that’s the major difference. He has made this issue by trying to make the case that people of religious faith are shut out of politics, epic wrong, just witness the modern republican party…

Jm

February 27th, 2012
9:20 am

Carlosgvv

Industry just treasures customers silly

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
9:21 am

“Oil speculators. Oooooo the liberal boogeyman”

boogeyman??? not really.

it’s just the facts.

and we all know, FACTS are the real boogeyman to the right …

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
9:21 am

Jm – “Butch no the game where you twist my words

Socializing industry losses sucked buy was necessary because government is incompetent.”

I wasn’t twisitng your words, merely referring the statements made by your GOP poster children like Romney, Gingrich, Cain, Boehner, Ryan, Santorum, Paul, Bachmann, Palin etc….. Just because their stated positions no longer work for you, is no reason to try and place the blame on someone else.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
9:21 am

Santorum is offended that someone of faith is deemed “not qualified” for leadership of this country

Ahh the stupidity runs deep with Santorum and spreads. Let’s be clear. Most people (liberals, progressives, conservatives, Republican and Democrats) have absolutely NO problem with someone of faith being a political leader provided they do not try to impose their faith and believes on others. And while all the so-called “conservative base” afeared the Catholics at the time Kennedy ran, today they afear an Islamic leader. Too bad that Santorum can’t get his act together to comprehend the distinctions with a base that screams about “Muslims” while at the same time suggesting that Catholic principles should override neutrally applied law.

Oscar

February 27th, 2012
9:21 am

More proof that Santorum should not even be considered as a serious candidate for President.

Jm

February 27th, 2012
9:23 am

Butch I’m not a member of the GOP….

I’m a Romney fan, relative to Obama. That’s it.

Don’t put other people’s words in my mouth.

TaxPayer

February 27th, 2012
9:23 am

Actually, Obama wants oil prices to go way way up because he owns stock in GM and the Chevy Volt is the perfect cure for high oil prices. I’m still partial to the Toyota Prius though. It gets over 50 mpg in city driving and you don’t have to worry about stopping for a battery recharge because it’s a hybrid. Maybe they’ll even make one in the future with a small diesel engine that can run on bio-fuel or an alcohol burning engine or natural gas. By the way, I see that UPS is going to move to electric vehicles. Obama’s plan is working. We will be energy independent thanks to his efforts.

kayaker 71

February 27th, 2012
9:25 am

Another attempt by the liberals to deflect attention from our real problem, the economy, to social issues. Ran across a quote from Bozo over the weekend that makes interesting reading……

“The fact that we are here today to debate America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here”. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. America deserves better”.

Senator Barak H. Obama
March, 2006

Rather profound, ne-ces-pas?

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
9:26 am

So, again, Joseph …. I ask you …

What EXACTLY can the President do when the market is setting the price for oil???

Jm

February 27th, 2012
9:26 am

Usinuk is an imperialist

Go figure. She thinks Scottish oil belongs to her and the Englanders. What a hypocrite she is.

Jay

February 27th, 2012
9:26 am

George Will, Sunday on ABC:

“But right now, (Republicans) think they’re going to float in on high gas prices. Something like that, and that’s just preposterous…. Allen West from South Florida, a Republican, said he was outraged this week because it cost him $70 to fill his car. He drives a Hummer. Newt Gingrich said the American people have a right to demand $2.50 gas. They have the right to demand that lobsters grow on trees, but I mean, this is economic nonsense.”

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
9:27 am

“ne-ces-pas”

spelled n’est-ce pas

always happy to help.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
9:28 am

“She thinks Scottish oil belongs to her and the Englanders. ”

awwwwwwww … he’s so cute when he’s wrong.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
9:28 am

K71 is so funny. He cites Obama’s words like he believes in them and then champions the Republican candidates whos positions and campaign promises go directly against those words….. :lol:

Grasshopper

February 27th, 2012
9:29 am

Bookman is quoting George Will.

Watch out for The Four Horsemen.

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
9:29 am

kayaker 71 – “Rather profound, ne-ces-pas?”

I’m guessing you put that up for those people who missed it the first 1,000 times it was posted here during the debt ceiling fiasco? Anyone NOT get a chance to read the paragraph. Or, perhaps you didn’t get to enjoy it as much when it was posted by “lil barry bailout”, “USMC”, “Joe the plumber too”, “Harry Callahan”, “Obama is Over” etc……

Thanks KY 71, I was really missing my morning shot of redundancy.

Jay

February 27th, 2012
9:30 am

And the thing is, a lot of Republicans understand that it’s economic nonsense. But they are willing to try to peddle economic nonsense because A.) they take the American people for fools willing to believe that nonsense and B.) they really don’t have anything BUT economic nonsense to sell. It’s evidence of just how ideologically bankrupt they have become.

The American people are not as dumb as the Republicans want and need them to be.

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2012
9:30 am

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
9:31 am

GG – 9:30 – holy moly!

talk about a sign of end-times!

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
9:31 am

“The American people are not as dumb as the Republicans want and need them to be.”

I dunno … Adam Sandler keeps making movies, so there’s gotta be a significant amount of stupid out there …

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
9:32 am

USinUK:

Threaten to open up more federal land for energy exploration. Approve the Keystone Pipeline. Fast track the approval process for new refineries and nuclear power plants. I could go on and on but this President likes high energy costs. It forces more people into the lower income brackets and becoming dependant on government…. I can’t possibly explain it any more than that… Do your own research….

retired early

February 27th, 2012
9:33 am

Rick and “W” have one major thing in common; both believe “God” wanted them to become POTUS.
Personally, when anyone claims to be that “special”…they harbor strange intensions indeed and therefore, cannot be trusted in any capacity, much less the presidency.
Talk about a perfect example of religious brainwashing.
“God, please deliver me ( and our country ), from your followers”.

bman

February 27th, 2012
9:33 am

George Will misspoke. $4 + gas prices will effect much more than just paying a little more at the pump. The cost of nearly every single thing we purchase would eventually rise, too.

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
9:34 am

Grasshopper – “Bookman is quoting George Will.

Watch out for The Four Horsemen.”

I enjoy George Will. He’s a conservative that can actually criticize his own party without the fear of being made to stand in the corner.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2012
9:34 am

“Allen West from South Florida, a Republican, said he was outraged this week because it cost him $70 to fill his car”

How big is the tank on a Hummer? Because my van has a 30 gallon tank and it costs ME $105 to fill it up. I want to know where he’s still getting gas for $2.33

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2012
9:34 am

Darn Jay beat me the the George Will Punch….

Let’s Review:

Trump
Bachmann
Christie
Cain
Pawlenty
Gingrich
Santorum
Romney
Economy
Birth Certificate
National Security
Birth Control
Gas Prices

What’s up next?

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
9:35 am

bman – “George Will misspoke. $4 + gas prices will effect much more than just paying a little more at the pump. The cost of nearly every single thing we purchase would eventually rise, too.”

So what?

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
9:35 am

Jay:

I agree Jay but stupid people are what keeps democrats in office. Take the unemployment numbers for instance… It don’t take a rocket scientist to understand that the numbers have goon down because of people dropping out of the work force. Not actual jobs being created…

bman

February 27th, 2012
9:36 am

Doggone .. .. I was wondering the same thing lol .. .. Fill up a Hummer for $70 in South

Joe the Prophet

February 27th, 2012
9:36 am

Cut Saint Ricky some slack…..He’s in a primary race against a Mormon…..He wants to interject religion as much as he can….If he can pull it off in Michigan, it’s a good strategy…..

I must admit how surprised I am how many so-called “Christians” are supporting Romney…they are against gay marriage and contraception…but polygamy and polytheism is OK….!?!?!? But hey, I heard the price of gas is 25 cents a gallon on the Planet Kolob….!!!!!!!

JamVet - Warren B. punks the punks

February 27th, 2012
9:36 am

More proof that Santorum should not even be considered as a serious candidate for President.

Outside of the Republican lunatic fringe, he’s not.

And never was.

But like so many other of their candidates any more, a GREAT source of comedic fodder…

Don’t put other people’s words in my mouth.

Hysterical, given that Mr. Two Faced does it pretty much non-stop…

Jay

February 27th, 2012
9:37 am

And the funny thing, is, Allen West DOES drive a Hummer, a point that he himself made:

“Here is the bottom line, last night it took 70 dollars to fill the tank of my 2008 H3 Hummer, what is it costing you? What does it cost the president to fill his gas tank?”

West doesn’t even begin to understand the silliness of that statement. He believes that he has the God-given right as an American to drive a Hummer (15 mpg), that government has a responsibility to ensure that he has cheap gasoline to fuel that Hummer, and that he ought to be shielded by government from the financial consequences of choosing a Hummer.

So much for “personal responsibility.”

bman

February 27th, 2012
9:37 am

“So what?”

What do you mean by that?

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
9:37 am

Joseph – and none of those things do anything for oil prices NOW

Threaten to open up more federal land for energy exploration.
which means that you’d have years of hearings before the first drill happened

Approve the Keystone Pipeline.
which helps CANADA move oil THROUGH America – nothing else

Fast track the approval process for new refineries and nuclear power plants.
do you realize how many approvals have already happened but HAVEN’T been built??? approvals mean bupkis.

kayaker 71

February 27th, 2012
9:37 am

Keep, 9:28,

Just passing along a quote that makes this clown look pretty inadequate. He also said, in so many words, that if he didn’t have the economy fixed in the first three years of his presidency, he ought to be a one term president. That ought to be good reading on campaign ads during the general election. Why do you liberals concentrate so heavily on social issues instead of the real meat of where this country is heading? Because you don’t have a leg to stand on. There is nothing there. Bozo has no record. If he ran on fiscal success, he would be laughed out of town. So you and others like Bookman make this election about someones religion, or shopping at Tiffany’s or looking stupid at a debate, or some other numbskull nonsense…. anything but the real banana. This country is in the tank and Bozo is the most complicit idiot in the mix that made it this way.

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
9:39 am

Joseph – “It forces more people into the lower income brackets”

It’s so good to see the likes of Joseph and Jm take a reverse on their stance regarding the free market. All along I thought they were completely against Obamacare, but from reading their various posts, they apparently want the governement setting the rates and getting involved in free trade. I just don’t understand why they didn’t just say it to begin with. I’m curious as to what might have happened for them to suddenly change their opinions on personal responsibility and poor choices?

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
9:43 am

Butch – 9:39 – we evidently have the RIGHT to cheap gas, but not affordable healthcare.

or something like that.

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
9:43 am

bman – ““So what?”

What do you mean by that?”

Just what I said. No one here whether they pledge Dem or Rep has a right to cheap stuff. The fact is that prices rise and fall in response to the market and demand. I find it comical that only now do the right wingers suddenly believe that the government should somehow step in and resue them from the high cost of driving their SUVs. It’s not the governments job to save you from your Escalade.

Jm

February 27th, 2012
9:44 am

Jay

Look, obama is pro higher energy prices. Even if in the short term he can do very little other than (ab)use the SPR. Like it or not his position won’t be popular with the public and will hurt him.

Likewise republicans can’t count on oil saving their butts. After the general is over, it’s going to be economy 24-7.

JamVet - Warren B. punks the punks

February 27th, 2012
9:44 am

Joseph, your “analysis” at 9:32, is absurd conjecture that would not even pass muster in the ninth grade.

Completely sophist and little more than a string of logical fallacies.

At every level, it does not even make sense…

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
9:45 am

k71… sorry not going to engage with you. I really don’t respect your ability to have rational discussion given your history. When you are ready to demonstrate an ability to be rational, we can discuss. I reserve the right to continue to point out your silliness however as it seems to be representative of the inability of a great number on the right to see the failures of their party.

Recon 0311 2533

February 27th, 2012
9:46 am

Jay, throws up another biased story taken out of context about a Republican candidate and the loonies go wild with their juvenile comments. Pathetic.

JamVet - Warren B. punks the punks

February 27th, 2012
9:47 am

Paul

February 27th, 2012
9:47 am

“Santorum has badly misread Kennedy’s speech, in my opinion. JFK spoke strongly against letting church leaders dictate public policy to politicians who shared their faith; he said nothing about barring individuals of faith from the public square.”

I think Santorum read Pres Kennedy’s speech accurately, he just chose to ignore what he read, continue with his pandering demagoguery and trust his base it too ill-informed to know the difference.

“But they are willing to try to peddle (this and economic) nonsense because A.) they take the American people for fools willing to believe that nonsense ”

Look at Santorum’s standing in the polls.

Enough said.

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
9:47 am

Recon 0311 2533 – “the loonies go wild with their juvenile comments.”

Agreed, I can’t imagine the shame you must feel with “Jm”, “Joseph” and kayaker 71 on your team.

Paul

February 27th, 2012
9:48 am

Allen West and his Hummer.

He still wants to play soldier.

Time to move on, Allen.

Jm

February 27th, 2012
9:49 am

Meant to say primary, not “general”

JamVet - Warren B. punks the punks

February 27th, 2012
9:49 am

Butch, and apparently “loonies go wild” is a long standing philosophical truism and not a juvenile comment.

Oy…

bman

February 27th, 2012
9:51 am

Butch, or should I say Darth Vader .. That reply really has nothing at all to do with what I said about gas prices, and how it could effect the economy which, by the way, is fragile.

I don’t own an escalade.

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
9:51 am

LOL Unless I’m mistaken Santorum is sponsoring the 26 car in the Daytona 500.

Just saying..

February 27th, 2012
9:51 am

Our American Ayatollah…

Paul

February 27th, 2012
9:52 am

‘g morning, USinUK

“Approve the Keystone Pipeline.
which helps CANADA move oil THROUGH America – nothing else”

Remember when this started Republicans touted it as a JOBS plan?

Then gas prices start rising, now it’s all about prices?

You’d think they’d get whiplash from all the squirrels they keep spotting.

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
9:52 am

I do admit, I miss some of the more fiscally responsible policies of days gone by:

9/ll – Go shopping

War in Iraq – Cut taxes

Need to increase auto sales – Tax credit for SUV’s

Why can’t we just get back to the basics so we can start using our homes as ATM’s again?

Republicans Had 8 Years Of INSANITY and Now They ALL Have Gone MAD

February 27th, 2012
9:52 am

SAVE America.

Spay or Neuter A Republican.

jm

February 27th, 2012
9:52 am

Here’s a country that knows how to manage its border. And our border with Mexico is definitely “hot”.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/27/us-israel-sinai-fence-idUSTRE81Q13620120227

Recon 0311 2533

February 27th, 2012
9:53 am

Butch, didn’t you once tell me that you choose not to vote or do I have you confused with another poster?

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
9:54 am

Recon – 0311 2533 – “Butch, didn’t you once tell me that you choose not to vote or do I have you confused with another poster?”

Nope, that’s all me.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
9:55 am

ragnar danneskjold

February 27th, 2012
9:56 am

Santorum correctly analyzes the effect of the Kennedy speech, to marginalize people of faith in their participation in, and statements on public affairs. For proof one need not look further than the leftists deceit on Santorum’s thoughts on contraception. I would not have said “throw up” – I would have alleged naiveté.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
9:56 am

“You’d think they’d get whiplash from all the squirrels they keep spotting.”

meh – it’s Messaging Whack-a-Mole … trying to catch the little bugger that they think will give them prize coupons …

but they just keep missing …

Republicans Had 8 Years Of INSANITY and Now They ALL Have Gone MAD

February 27th, 2012
9:57 am

Santorum has FOOT IN MOUTH DISEASE.

Jm

February 27th, 2012
9:58 am

“your “analysis” at 9:32, is absurd conjecture that would not even pass muster in the ninth grade”

Tell that to Paddy O who had an even more absurd analysis last night. He declared $2 was the fundamental price and the rest of the premium was speculators. Dumb dumb dumb.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
9:59 am

deceipt on Santorum’s “thoughts” on contraception???

a direct quote: “ One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country. Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that’s OK; contraception is OK. It’s not OK. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”

g’head … spin it.

RLJ

February 27th, 2012
9:59 am

Do you choose which GOP candidate to bash based on the latest polls? It doesn’t bother me that you do so. It is just so obvious that you come across as a partisan hack.

Republicans Had 8 Years Of INSANITY and Now They ALL Have Gone MAD

February 27th, 2012
10:00 am

@jm

February 27th, 2012
9:52 am
Here’s a country that knows how to manage its border. And our border with Mexico is definitely “hot”.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/27/us-israel-sinai-fence-idUSTRE81Q13620120227
************************************************************

ANNOYED by immigrants?

TELL it to the Indians. :)

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
10:00 am

Messaging Whack-a-Mole

Now that catches it…..and the same moles keep popping up no matter how many times they are whacked.

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2012
10:01 am

Own up, traitor. Good riddance.

Jay, THIS personal attack stays up there but my observation about Santorum’s likely marital behavior, based on years of observation, which is pertinent to the discussion at hand, gets moderated out?

ooo-kay.

Joseph

February 27th, 2012
10:01 am

The Obama speech on gas prices makes you want to throw up!!! Algae is our future… We must invest billions in tax payer dollars for this…..

Jm

February 27th, 2012
10:01 am

Recon 0311 2533

February 27th, 2012
10:01 am

Butch, you’re certainly as welcome to post your views just like anyone else, but given that this is a political blog and since it appears that your views coincide with left wing Democrats, why do you choose not to vote? No need to answer my question of course but just curious.

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
10:01 am

In case you are wondering, YES the puppet for Neal Boortz is talking about gas prices.

After the break get ready for one of the puppets here to list any or all of the “10 things Barack Obama could do to bring down gas prices but won’t.”

I forget the name of the idiot filling in for Boortz today………..

Billings

February 27th, 2012
10:02 am

JFK also said this in his speech.

“I would not look with favor upon a President working to subvert the first amendment’s guarantees of religious liberty.”

I guess he would not look favorably upon Obama.

About all I can say about Bookman’s columns is they are predictable.

sigh

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
10:03 am

RLJ – maybe nobody’s told you … the interwebs are vast and wide.

don’t like Jay?

go elsewhere.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
10:04 am

Billings – 10:02 – tell it to the Supremes – they deemed things like hospitals and universities to be SECULAR, not religious, and therefore subject to the same laws as the rest of us.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
10:04 am

Peadawg

February 27th, 2012
10:04 am

“About all I can say about Bookman’s columns is they are predictable.”

He’s as predictable as Kyle is next door. Do you piss and moan on his blog as well?

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2012
10:05 am

“It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”

Problem is, he has a total misconception about the biological role of sex.

Republicans Had 8 Years Of INSANITY and Now They ALL Have Gone MAD

February 27th, 2012
10:05 am

@RLJ

February 27th, 2012
9:59 am
Do you choose which GOP candidate to bash based on the latest polls? It doesn’t bother me that you do so. It is just so obvious that you come across as a partisan hack.
*********************************************************************************************************

DON’T blame the messenger for EXPOSING fanatical idiots like Santorum.

BLAME yourself for supporting IDIOTS like Santorum.

Granny Godzilla

February 27th, 2012
10:07 am

Billings

I bet you’d guess on Door # 4 on Let’s Make a Deal….

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
10:08 am

Hey Red!!!!!!!

Just killing time listening to the REPUBLICAN SOCIALISTS tell us how to nationalize the oil industry. LOL It’s especially funny to see asshats who use book names that pretend to be “free market capitalists” whining hard and calling for socialism now……..

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
10:08 am

“Problem is, he has a total misconception about the biological role of sex.”

ohhhhhhhhh, the naughty comments that are springing to mind …

philosopher

February 27th, 2012
10:09 am

Billings

February 27th, 2012
10:02 am

JFK also said this in his speech.

“I would not look with favor upon a President working to subvert the first amendment’s guarantees of religious liberty.”

I guess he would not look favorably upon Obama.

Ummmmm…I have seen absolutely zilch efforts by Obama to subvert my faith or anyone else’s, for that matter. Care to enlighten me on who, what, where, how??? Otherwise, I’ll just scrap that crap along with all the other unsupported rhetoric from foolish folks who think they can just shout something at me and I’ll wilt and say, “oh, no…what a wicked man… somebody wrote that and I’m sure it must be true because somebody said it, so it must be true….

Adam

February 27th, 2012
10:09 am

Arguing that church and state should not be separate is like arguing that poor people should pay more taxes while rich people pay less, or that making college available to everyone is a “snob”y thing to do.

Oh wait….

WHY oh WHY do people want someone who is anti-science, pro-theocracy, and anti-education? Because the only people I can see voting for this dumbass are people who want public schools to all be destroyed and the Catholic church to run the country.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
10:09 am

Fred – 10:08 – I know! the irony of the situation … well, let’s just say that none of them should ever have a problem with anemia ever again …

bman

February 27th, 2012
10:11 am

if gas prices continue to rise all the way through the summer, Obama will do (or say) something to ease the price of oil. He won’t let the high cost of oil get in the way of his re-election hopes

Adam

February 27th, 2012
10:11 am

philosopher: “I would not look with favor upon a President working to subvert the first amendment’s guarantees of religious liberty.”

I guess he would not look favorably upon Obama.

Right, because guaranteeing coverage for a number of different things is infringing on my religious right to force everyone to pray away their illness instead.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
10:12 am

I guess he would not look favorably upon Obama.

I bet you also would guess that Rush weighs, ummm, 180 or so.

JamVet - There are two types of Republicans, millionaires and suckers.

February 27th, 2012
10:12 am

Morning, Paul.

Given his own words, the Bushbot, Allen West, is a disgraceful representative.

Not to worry though, Come next January the one and doner, will be seeking employment in the private sector…

carlosgvv

February 27th, 2012
10:13 am

ragnar danneskjold

Just exactly what is this “leftists deceit on Santorum’s thoughts on contraception” you speak of?

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
10:13 am

“I bet you also would guess that Rush weighs, ummm, 180 or so.”

well, his left thigh probably does, anyway …

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
10:14 am

“Obama will do (or say) something to ease the price of oil”

yay!!!

the Magic Button that controls gas prices – located in the Oval Office right behind the gumball machine …

Republicans Had 8 Years Of INSANITY and Now They ALL Have Gone MAD

February 27th, 2012
10:14 am

@Joseph

February 27th, 2012
8:19 am
How about the democrat party of Georgia about to be insolvent???? Wouldn’t you rather concentrate on that Jay???
**************************************************************************

Let Kyle Wingfied the conservative do that story.

Jm

February 27th, 2012
10:16 am

Republicans had 8

I’m pro immigration. Just managed immigration. In other words I’m anti anarchy. You apparently not so much.

it's me

February 27th, 2012
10:17 am

hello. yes, it’s me. are you there?

0311/1811

February 27th, 2012
10:18 am

Two points this morning:

1) “God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid?… Without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel.” Benjamin Franklin, 1787

2) Kennedy’s “sexploitation” of a nineteen year old White House intern makes me want to throw up.

Kennedy’s

bman

February 27th, 2012
10:18 am

yay!!!

the Magic Button that controls gas prices – located in the Oval Office right behind the gumball machine …
USinUK .. .. gee the guy in Iran can say one thing to move the markets. Do you not believe the most powerful person in the world can do the same? Really??

If it effects the economy that is trying to recover, I can assure you that he will take a peek behind that gumball machine

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
10:20 am

“hello. yes, it’s me. are you there?”

Is that you, Margaret?? – God

Paul

February 27th, 2012
10:20 am

Jm 10:01

You may want to Google “department of defense algae fuel”

You will see Dept of Defense has been a major player in this effort for years.

Of course, it’s obvious Republicans, talk radio and supercon (’consrvative” or ‘con man’ applies equally well) tv opinion guys like Hannity find it convenient to ridicule only the president.

They don’t have the guts to say the same about the general officers running the military and pushing these projects.

kayaker 71

February 27th, 2012
10:21 am

“There is no place for a non-secular president in the WH.” Seems that America had other ideas in 1984 when Reagan swept the election by 49 states to one when he beat McGovern. It has never happened before and it will no doubt never happen again. America didn’t seem to be threatened by Reagan’s belief in God, his insistence that most of man’s accomplishments have been because of a profound faith in something or someone much bigger than yourself. Why is that so threatening to liberals? They feel little to no threat when some Muslim wannabe steps into the WH and threatens their freedoms, separates them from their hard earned money to fund his wildly socialistic schemes and wants to make all of their decisions for them. But just say that you believe in some kind of God and suddenly, you are the enemy. Wish to hell they felt that way about Allah.

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
10:22 am

Recon – “it appears that your views coincide with left wing Democrats, why do you choose not to vote?”

Because the candidate pool from the Left is just as un-appealing to me as the ones on the Right. Since all politicians, in my opinion, are just as pandering and hypocritical, it leaves me with no other choice than to sit the game out until a player comes along to my liking.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
10:23 am

bman – “gee the guy in Iran can say one thing to move the markets. Do you not believe the most powerful person in the world can do the same? Really?? ”

considering Iran is one of the world’s leading oil producers AND was threatening to close off the Straits of Hormuz which would have an IMMEDIATE impact on the amount of oil released into the market … yes … there is a world of difference.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
10:23 am

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
10:24 am

kayaker – “Seems that America had other ideas in 1984 when Reagan swept the election by 49 states to one when he beat McGovern.”

hate to be the one to bring it up, but Carter was one of the most openly religious presidents in my lifetime – so, he pipped Reagant to the post on that particular issue.

DwayneL

February 27th, 2012
10:24 am

The founders were against any govt. sponsored religion. That does NOT mean that religion can’t be recognized in govt. or the schools. God is mentioned throughout the founding documents and the words on most monuments in DC.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
10:25 am

Kennedy’s “sexploitation” of a nineteen year old White House intern makes me want to throw up.

And yet, a sheriff allowing the “sexploitation” of immigrants and children in AZ by failing to investigate while diverting resources to abusing prisoners and others does not seem to trouble you nearly as much as this “sensitivity”. :roll:

JOSE

February 27th, 2012
10:25 am

Butch
I agree……….. if it is a choice between donkey manure and elephant manure…….. i choose to fast.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
10:25 am

Reagan had Alzheimer’s didn’t he?

GT

February 27th, 2012
10:26 am

JFK was the first Catholic president. There were well founded fear in those days that a very powerful foreign organization might then control the While House. European history is sum total a history of the over reaching power, corrupt many times, of the Catholic church. The very foundation of this country was the fleeing of religious zealots. There was a bigotry in those days by WASPs and that bigotry should have triggered far more illness from RS than a speech by a Catholic brother protecting both their rights as American citizens. One thing no one accounted for was how non practicing a Catholic Jack really was. They make the same mistake today. As religions get older the unity weakens . The splits in the Protestant churches are more proof of this. A man speaking on religious topics and thinking he has a mob backing him up may find the soul is weaker than the flesh.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 27th, 2012
10:26 am

Well, there’s nothing wrong with having a little Gospel in guvmint. I think we’ve done went too far by taking God out of guvmint and laws. This Ashcroft and his bunch had the right idea. A little prayer meeting once in a while, putting a sheet over the buck-nekkid statue of that woman in the Justice Department, making sure all the people you appoint are good Christians—this is the kind of stuff we ought to do to make sure God is on our side. And majority rules in this country. If Christians are the majority then the rest of the religions ought to get use to having a Christian guvmint. And if they don’t like it they can just move out of this country. And far as I’m concerned people that don’t beleive in religion ain’t real Americans anyway. They ought to be rounded up and shipped overseas.

That’s my opinion and it’s very true. Have a good Monday everybody.

Paul

February 27th, 2012
10:27 am

For the Google-impaired:

“The Defense Department is a Significant Driver of New Technology”

“The Navy and Air Force have both worked with biofuel suppliers to conduct tests and certify that biofuels meet exacting requirements for performance and cost. For instance, Solazyme – a California algae oil producer –delivered to the Navy 20,000 gallons of jet and diesel from algae, the largest amount of advanced biofuel ever produced. And Sustainable Oils – a renewable fuel producer in Montana – supplied camelina-based bio-jet fuel for a 2010 test flight at supersonic speeds of the U.S. Navy’s F/A-18 “Green Hornet” aircraft.”

http://www.biofuelsdigest.com/bdigest/2011/06/03/the-defense-department-is-a-significant-driver-of-new-technology/

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

February 27th, 2012
10:27 am

JOSE – “I agree……….. if it is a choice between donkey manure and elephant manure…….. I choose to fast.”

That was a good line.

Adam

February 27th, 2012
10:28 am

Paul: They don’t have the guts to say the same about the general officers running the military and pushing these projects.

Interestingly, the people pushing R&D from the Pentagon continue to do so regardless of political climate. I do, however, wonder what they think of these idiots vying for the Republican ticket.

Jm

February 27th, 2012
10:28 am

Liberals are just liars that love mind f’ing themselves

Find one post where a con said “nationalize oil”

You liberals are pathetic.

They BOTH suck

February 27th, 2012
10:28 am

“They feel little to no threat when some Muslim wannabe steps into the WH”

Please define “Muslin wannabee” with fact. Save the innuendo, talking pts and hyperbole. Who is this “wannabe”?

Thanks

bman

February 27th, 2012
10:29 am

USinUK. .. .. The President of the U.S., depending on what they say, can move markets like no one else in the world. You have to know that

Adam

February 27th, 2012
10:31 am

Jm: Find one post where a con said “nationalize oil”

Every time you suggest we should implement cost controls by the government taking over some aspect of the oil industry, that’s exactly what you’re suggesting should be done.

However, since the gas prices thing is an old and tired argument, I’m gonna sit that one out. We all know what affects gas prices, and that you can’t change the price of a McDonald’s burger worldwide by building a couple of burger joints next to your local McDonald’s. So quit bellyaching or don;t, but I’m not going to engage in that particular line of nonsense if it’s off topic.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
10:32 am

bman – 10:29 –

darlin, it’s down to the boys and girls on Wall Street MUCH more than the person in the Oval.

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
10:32 am

The definition of Irony: The people who bought giant SUV’s under the Bush tax rebate plan are the same people who bitch about cash for clunkers, and who complain about Obamacare and auto industry bailouts as “overreach” and the “governenment attempting a socialistic solution to a capitalistic problem,” now advocate for the government nationalizing the oil industry in order to guarantee cheap fuel.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
10:32 am

The President of the U.S., depending on what they say, can move markets like no one else in the world. You have to know that.

Yeah, USinUK, and look how well the markets are doing…..thanks Obama

Newtiepewtie

February 27th, 2012
10:35 am

When Santorum “blows chunks,” his projectile vomit exudes bile toward anything that is progress in America. He wouldn’t vomit if he lived in Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, etc.

Normal

February 27th, 2012
10:36 am

They just never give up…”Compassionate” Christians trying to push their values on others, not caring if it is wanted or not. God save us all from the Conservative, “Compassionant” Christian…

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/02/navy-lawsuit-records-study-dont-ask-dont-tell-022512w/

bman

February 27th, 2012
10:36 am

“darlin” .. .. now why did you have to go and say that? btw .. .. I have peeked a few times at your food blog. Pretty good stuff!

WOODSTOCK MIKE

February 27th, 2012
10:36 am

Here’s an article for Obama’s new program, “African Americans for Obama”. Wow, what is Romney had a “Whites for Romney” program, how would that go over??

http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-plays-race-card-calls-on-churches-to-support-campaign.html

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
10:37 am

Jm – “Find one post where a con said “nationalize oil”

Just go back and find any statement that starts with or infers – “Obama needs to do something about gas prices.”

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
10:37 am

Finn – I’m sorry your 401K is doing so well.

I’ll take it up with O.

JamVet - There are two types of Republicans, millionaires and suckers.

February 27th, 2012
10:37 am

Reagan had Alzheimer’s didn’t he?

As apparently did the American electorate in the 1980s.

That the trickled-on sheep still adore The BIG government thespian is a testament to willful stupidity and self-destructiveness…

…when some Muslim wannabe steps into the WH…

Along with racism, religious hatred and bigotry – alive and well in the GOP.

Speaking of profiles in non-courage…

http://tinyurl.com/7ulev2p

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
10:39 am

WOODSTOCK MIKE – “Wow, what is Romney had a “Whites for Romney” program,”

He does, it’s called the Republican Party. Haven’t you been getting the memos?

Normal

February 27th, 2012
10:39 am

Jm

February 27th, 2012
10:28 am

No jm, you’re the one being pathetic here. The ONLY way President Obama could control gas prices is by nationalizing the oil companies…THE ONLY WAY! Think that’s a good idea, do you?

JOSE

February 27th, 2012
10:40 am

Normal

Every group tries to push their values on everybody…….. liberals try to push their values on everybody………….. its hypocritical to say one group does it and they are wrong to do it but then you infer your views are right

ragnar danneskjold

February 27th, 2012
10:40 am

Dear Carlos @ 10:13, good morning, fair question: “Just exactly what is this “leftists deceit on Santorum’s thoughts on contraception” you speak of?” The leftists routinely imply that Santorum approaches the law the same way as leftists, with an intention to inflict his beliefs on those who disagree. While he would freely use the bully pulpit, he would not inflict the conservative equivalent of “ObamaCare” on the population – indeed, he has repeatedly stated his belief that states should have comparatively more say on health and related “liberty” issues than the central government.

it's me

February 27th, 2012
10:41 am

USinUK – no, it’s me. i already told you that. duh!

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
10:41 am

Obama will nationalize oil right after he rolls out the Sharia Law in December.

Oh, wait. It will have to wait until February because January is the month we will be taking away all yer guns.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

February 27th, 2012
10:42 am

Hey NORMAL, guess who said this??

“Not only is Obama playing the race card in an attempt to pressure black Americans into voting for him, he is also violating the separation between church and state. In the video promo for the campaign, Obama urges black people to pressure churches into supporting his administration by getting his message out via “the faith community”. He also calls on voters to become “congregation captains”.

Thulsa Doom

February 27th, 2012
10:44 am

Attention was drawn to Russell Edwards, treasurer of the Democrat party of Georgia:

“Mr Edwards distributed a document showing cash balances for several months, beginning with February 2011, ending with February 22, 2012. A budget was not presented. He explained the dire financial situation of the organization. Upon review and discussion of the document it was generally agreed that the current financial approach was unsustainable”

Well it looks like the Democrats are back to their old tricks only this time with their own party instead of America’s checkbook.

Let’s see- fianances in shambles? Hmmm. Whose financial management does that sound like Mr. Obama?

What else?- They didn’t even present a budget? Hmmm. Who does that sound like Senator Reed?

Dire financial situation of the organization? Hmmm. Sounds like the Democrats financial management of the U.S. and 16 trillion in debt including nearly 5 trillion in new debt in just over 3 years with the O man.

Democrats= financial ruin.

bman

February 27th, 2012
10:44 am

” advocate for the government nationalizing the oil industry in order to guarantee cheap fuel”

You do realize that not everyone who has an SUV or people who do not wish for higher gas prices advocate for the nationalization of the oil industry, right? I understand that you’re retired and wealthy (i guess) and that no matter what the economy brings, you are not going to be bothered.

I don’t own a Escalade, but I do own 2 restaurants. When the price of gas goes higher, my costs go higher. I am charged a extra gas fee for the food I order from my distributors. The prices of services that I use rise, too. Those big trucks (bigger than the SUV’) with all of those wheels delivering goods all across the nation? They charge more as well. Eventually it hits the pockets of the consumers.

Normal

February 27th, 2012
10:44 am

Jose can you see? I push nothing but I like to point out stupidity. The religious right is the second stupidest entity in the country. The people who believe their filth is the first. But, and a big but, in this country they have the right to believe what they want. God bless America.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

February 27th, 2012
10:45 am

It’s so hilarious to me when I hear Democrats slam religion. Do they not understand the majority of their own have a deep belief in religion? Take a look at the African American community, it’s extremely religious and votes 99% Democrat. What a joke…

TaxPayer

February 27th, 2012
10:45 am

Santorum must do the will of Friess if he wants to keep Friess as his sugar daddy.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

February 27th, 2012
10:46 am

Normal you are a sick human being… And clearly have no clue what you speak of…

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

February 27th, 2012
10:46 am

Jm,

I have to give you credit, you certainly know how to change the topic. You moved it from Santorum to Oil prices in record time today.

carlosgvv

February 27th, 2012
10:48 am

ragnar danneskjold – 10:40

I think most on the left understand we will be electing a President, not a King. Neither Obama, Romney, Gingrich or Santorum, as President, can “inflict beliefs on those who disagree” without a majority in the House and Senate and the approval of the Supreme Court.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
10:48 am

When the price of gas goes higher, my costs go higher

Want some cheese with that whine?

Normal

February 27th, 2012
10:49 am

WOODSTOCK MIKE

February 27th, 2012
10:42 am

I don’t know but I am sure you will tell me and I will retort it doesn’t matter. If it was said before he was elected this time then it’s yesterday’s news, if it’s current, then I say why not? Turn about if fair play and the big white boys in Congress have already made their first priority to make President Obama a one term President. The GOP is constantly reminding us that all is fair in war and politics…

Thulsa Doom

February 27th, 2012
10:49 am

I wonder if Obama and the Dems want to bring us the values and culture of one of their bastions of Democratic progress- Detroit! After all the O man did say he wanted to fundamentally transform America. I guess that means he wants Detroit values everywhere. Democrats = moral decay, economic decay, social decay,

WWII Vet Says Nobody Helped After He Was Carjacked

By JEFF KAROUB Associated Press
February 25, 2012

A World War II veteran said nobody helped him in the minutes after he was attacked and carjacked during daylight at a busy Detroit gas station and he had to crawl across a concrete parking lot to get help.

A roughly four-minute surveillance video shows 86-year-old Aaron Brantley struggling to get from the fuel pump to the gas station’s door as people walked and drove by him Wednesday morning. The video was first obtained by the Detroit Free Press.

Brantley told The Associated Press said several people passed by him as he crawled, unable to walk because his leg was broken in the attack. The carjacker knocked Brantley down, took his keys and drove off in his car about 10:40 a.m.

TaxPayer

February 27th, 2012
10:49 am

Normal,

You are one more mighty fine blogger. Woodstock Mike is clearly jealous.

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2012
10:50 am

treasurer of the Democrat party

…aaaand I stopped reading.

However, TD, you can redeem yourself and explain just how it is that you consider Mike Luckovich to be, as you called him yesterday, a “kook.”

Kindly explain which of Mike Luckovich’s apparent stands on issues are outside of the American mainstream. I will accept as “kooky” anything that polls at less than 30% with the public at large, by a reliable pollster using decent sampling.

Thanks in advance.

straitroad

February 27th, 2012
10:50 am

Jay, you will look down your nose at men like Santorum for their convictions yet you support a president who appoints devout Muslims to protect us from devout Muslim terrorists. I will never understand men like you who think the best defense is to take a punch in the face.

Normal

February 27th, 2012
10:50 am

WOODSTOCK MIKE

February 27th, 2012
10:46 am

Woodstock, coming from you I consider that a great compliment, thank you.

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
10:50 am

Yo bman? Can I have a job? You need a cook with no commercial cooking experience? I’ll work cheap………….

JOSE

February 27th, 2012
10:50 am

Normal
You prove my point….. you infer your view is right so therefore you are pushing it

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
10:51 am

actually, this is an interesting read about the state of religion in America

http://religions.pewforum.org/reports

A major survey by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life finds that most Americans have a non-dogmatic approach to faith. A strong majority of those who are affiliated with a religion, including majorities of nearly every religious tradition, do not believe their religion is the only way to salvation. And almost the same number believes that there is more than one true way to interpret the teachings of their religion. This openness to a range of religious viewpoints is in line with the great diversity of religious affiliation, belief and practice that exists in the United States, as documented in a survey of more than 35,000 Americans that comprehensively examines the country’s religious landscape.

Normal

February 27th, 2012
10:51 am

Taxpayer,
Thank you

bman

February 27th, 2012
10:52 am

“When the price of gas goes higher, my costs go higher

Want some cheese with that whine?”

wow

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
10:52 am

straitroad

February 27th, 2012
10:50 am

Jay, you will look down your nose at men like Santorum for their convictions yet you support a president who appoints devout Muslims to protect us from devout Muslim terrorists. I will never understand men like you who think the best defense is to take a punch in the face.
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Really? Who? What’s this devout Muslim’s job? Would it be ok if he were a devout Christian? Are you an asshat? Will you answer these questions?

Normal

February 27th, 2012
10:52 am

Jose,
I recommend a remedial reading course for you…you need it.

bman

February 27th, 2012
10:53 am

Fred .. .. haha . . I love it when you get on your cooking roll! And trust me, I can tell by what you say here that you would be better in the kitchen than anyone I have!

reebok

February 27th, 2012
10:53 am

Seems fair…Santorum makes me want to vomit, so why not share the misery?

ragnar danneskjold

February 27th, 2012
10:55 am

Dear Carlos @ 10:48, partially agree with your sentiment. We disagree in the area of “intent” – certainly the events of the past few weeks – think abortifacients and Catholic hospitals – have shown Obama’s effort to magnify the power of the government against the will of the governed. Seemingly only the Supreme Court stands as a potential block against the leftist control of health in this country. Although – thinking counter-intuitively – if the Supreme Court upholds the Constitutionality of ObamaCare, Obama might carry only California and DC.

carlosgvv

February 27th, 2012
10:55 am

straitroad

Please furnish additional information about all these “devout Muslims” Obama has appointed.

JOSE

February 27th, 2012
10:57 am

Normal,
Rebutting with an insult and offensive remarks is an indicator of a liberal. A liberal when confronted with logic and reason does not have the capacity to comprehend the content so they thereore project their shortcomings on the subject who exposes them………….

carlosgvv

February 27th, 2012
10:58 am

ragnar – 10:55

OK – that’s fair. However, Santorum’s recent comments indicate that, as President, he would “magnify the power of the government against the will of the governed” every bit as much, if not more, than Obama.

JamVet - There are two types of Republicans, millionaires and suckers.

February 27th, 2012
10:59 am

71 and Mike, are you guys having a good Black History month?

…who appoints devout Muslims to protect us from devout Muslim terrorists.

Tell that to your buddies, Anwar al-Awlaki, Abu Hafs al-Shahri, ‘Atiyah ‘Abd al-Rahman, Ammar al-Wa’ili, Abu Ali al-Harithi, Ali Saleh Farhan, Harun Fazul, Younis al-Mauritani, Baitullah Mahsud, Noordin Muhammad Top, Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, Saleh al-Somali, ‘Abdallah Sa’id, Abdul Ghani Beradar, Muhammad Haqqani, Qari Zafar, Hussein al-Yemen, Dulmatin, Abu Ayyub al-Masri,Sheik Saeed al-Masri, Hamza al-Jawfi, Abu Omar al-Baghdadi and of course, Osama bin Laden.

Life in the GOP’s parallel reality of permanent blindness is truly bizarre…

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/the-terrorist-notches-on-obamas-belt/

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:00 am

bman – “I can tell by what you say here that you would be better in the kitchen than anyone I have!”

I have immense respect for anyone who works the grill/saute station … hard, sweaty work! I waited tables working my way through university – as much as I love cooking, I could never do the back-breaking work those guys do.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:00 am

“Rebutting with an insult and offensive remarks is an indicator of a liberal.”

:lol:

you must be new here.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
11:01 am

Rick Santorum’s home-school hokum
America’s most famous home-schooler spent three years soaking Pennsylvania taxpayers for his kids’ education
According to the Penn Hills Progress, a newspaper in Santorum’s suburban Pittsburgh hometown that broke the story at the time, the local school district had spent approximately $100,000 educating the senator’s so-called home-schooled children, although they lived neither in the district nor in the state.
http://www.salon.com/2012/02/26/rick_santorums_home_school_hokum/

Adam

February 27th, 2012
11:01 am

yet you support a president who appoints devout Muslims to protect us from devout Muslim terrorists.

Even if true, so the eff what? If you think people really can’t do their jobs without protecting every other person of their same faith ABOVE and beyond the law and the Constitution, I can only assume that if YOU were in a place of power, that’s what YOU would be doing – letting your faith run things rather than common sense.

lovelyliz

February 27th, 2012
11:02 am

Don’t you just love the conservatives who want the government to placate the church, tear down the wall of separation when it comes to abortion and gays but when it comes to social justice, caring for the poor and working class, healthcare, human rights, etc they want the church to shut it’s collective mouth?!?!?

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
11:03 am

When Penn Hills tried to bill Santorum for $72,000 that the state had withheld from the local education budget to cover the senator’s kids’ online tuition, he refused to pay. In the end, the Pennsylvania department of education was forced to refund most of that money to the local district. In other words, the Santorums presented themselves to the world as home-schoolers for at least three years, while Pennsylvania taxpayers picked up the bill for their kids’ education — and they actually lived in a different state.

Adam

February 27th, 2012
11:03 am

Finn: Yes, he used taxpayer money for it. Many conservatives would call this a success, kind of like the whole voucher take-from-the-poor-to-give-to-the-rich scheme.

Ernest T. Bass

February 27th, 2012
11:04 am

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/27/poll-obama-holds-double-digit-leads-over-romney-and-santorum/?hpt=hp_bn3

Thank god the election is just about over anyway.

Santorum wants to create a Theocracy. If he is President the first thing he will do is attempt to make Christianity the official state religion.

TaxPayer

February 27th, 2012
11:04 am

It’s a good thing bman was not running those restaurants back when gas was 25 ¢ per gallon. Inflation would have surely done him in by now.

Jay

February 27th, 2012
11:04 am

“I wonder if Obama and the Dems want to bring us the values and culture of one of their bastions of Democratic progress- Detroit! After all the O man did say he wanted to fundamentally transform America. I guess that means he wants Detroit values everywhere. Democrats = moral decay, economic decay, social decay,”

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Thulsa, you remind me of Newt, and not in a good way (question for a later day — could there BE a good way?).

Remember Susan Smith in South Carolina killing her own children and blaming it on a black guy? Newt announced that it was the Democrats’ fault and reflected Democratic values, claiming that “The only way you get change is to vote Republican.”

Yet Newt went oddly silent when it was discovered that as a child Smith had been abused by her stepfather, a member of the executive committee of the state Republican Party.

It was a stupid thing for him to say back then, and your version is no improvement in the genre.

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
11:04 am

Just curious, Jay, as to whether you considered (out of a sense of fairness) to write a piece on Obama’s overt and specific appeal to black voters for help in his reelection? Do you consider that even wrong, or would you not write a column about Romney were he to make a “whites for Romney” pitch to prospective voters? Seems like I recall something Obama intimating something about a “post racial” America four years ago…which is looking more and more like the mere rhetoric I guess it was.

Normal

February 27th, 2012
11:06 am

Jose,
You don’t know me but I’ll tell you what…this old tree huggin’ commie, fascist, atheist says “you win”..Happy now? Jose you cannot see…too bad, too…

Adam

February 27th, 2012
11:07 am

Towncrier: Being that this is the second time from the second poster I have heard “white for Romney” I am going to say ….

Please stop repeating what you hear on talk radio. Thanks.

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
11:07 am

Bman: thanks.

Ernest T. Bass

February 27th, 2012
11:08 am

Please furnish additional information about all these “devout Muslims” Obama has appointed.

They cant.

Its just a talking point they repeat to each other over and over.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

February 27th, 2012
11:09 am

Here’s two devout Christians…

DEMOCRATS AND RELIGION….Hillary Clinton, as anyone who’s ever read anything about her knows, is a devout, lifelong Methodist. So when she came to Washington DC in 1993 she joined the “Fellowship,” a well-known organization run by Doug Coe that’s basically a collection of Bible study groups. In the 90s Hillary studied with a group made up of other high-powered Washington women, and today she belongs to the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast. The Fellowship leans conservative, but it’s a bipartisan organization. You can read about it in her autobiography, Living History.

Barack Obama, as everyone who didn’t spend last week on Mars knows, is a sincere and devout member of the Trinity United Church of Christ. He joined the church 20 years ago, married his wife there, and had his children baptized there. You can read about it in both of Obama’s books, Dreams From My Father and The Audacity of Hope.

bman

February 27th, 2012
11:09 am

“I have immense respect for anyone who works the grill/saute station … hard, sweaty work! I waited tables working my way through university – as much as I love cooking, I could never do the back-breaking work those guys do.”

Guys? It’s all women. I am the only guy. I keep it really cool in the back. Have to. If I didn’t, the girls would hurt me!

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
11:10 am

Here ya go Adam the early morning talking points from the Neal boortz show:

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/02/27/morning-briefing-for-february-27-2012/

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
11:10 am

Its just a talking point they repeat to each other over and over.

Hey, if conservatives could think for themselves, Hannity and Limbaugh would be out of a job.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:10 am

bman – 11:09 – SAAAAAAAAAA-LUTE!!! :-D

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
11:11 am

“Please stop repeating what you hear on talk radio. Thanks..”

I didn’t hear that on talk radio (which I haven’t listened to in about a week); I saw links on Drudge and viewed the actual video in which Obama makes his appeal. So, in the interest of intellectual honesty, why don’t you please stop deflecting and address the question for us?

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
11:11 am

bman – ” Eventually it hits the pockets of the consumers.”

Of course it does, but there isn’t anything that the President can do to stop that. Just as Bush couldn’t affect the price of gas, neither can Obama. It’s not that I don’t sympathize, it’s just the reality if the siutation. I still remember standing in gas lines and 20% interest rates on mortgages. Life sucks, get used to it.

[...] Santorum said, ““To say that people of faith have no role in the public square? You bet that makes you throw up. What kind of country do we live that says only people of non-faith can come into the public square and make their case?” [...]

Peadawg

February 27th, 2012
11:14 am

Daytona 500 under the lights tonight @ 7:00. Oooooooh yeah!

lovelyliz

February 27th, 2012
11:15 am

So Rick Santorum doesn’t believe in the separration of church and state. When can we expect him to come out against the death penalty and for paying workers a living wage or is he like a lot of poliiicans only pro-life until birth and the then ignorant on other matters of life involving the church?

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:15 am

“Daytona 500″

okay.

I confess.

I’ve never understood the appeal.

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
11:15 am

Damn. Now the race is postponed until 7PM………

Jay

February 27th, 2012
11:16 am

JamVet - There are two types of Republicans, millionaires and suckers.

February 27th, 2012
11:16 am

Personally, I can’t wait for the day – and make no mistake, it is coming – when a US President does not have to prove his spirituality to little men.

He won’t go to church, simply to appease the modern day puritans and fraudulent, tawdry, would-be king-makers like the Falwells, Robertsons, Reeds, Wrights and Grahams.

And he will make no apologies for it.

And Jay, I believe that Newt does serve a valuable, albeit unwitting, purpose.

The narcissist perfectly demonstrates the depths of the depravity of his ideology and the shallowness of his acumen.

TaxPayer

February 27th, 2012
11:17 am

Rebutting with an insult and offensive remarks is an indicator of a liberal. A liberal when confronted with logic and reason does not have the capacity to comprehend the content so they thereore project their shortcomings on the subject who exposes them………….

Such a bold statement, Jose. Do you care to proffer some content to back up your phloppy phalanges.

Peadawg

February 27th, 2012
11:17 am

“I’ve never understood the appeal.” – It’s very simple to follow after a few beers :lol: .

They BOTH suck

February 27th, 2012
11:17 am

Please pay close attention to the 2nd paragraph below. Regardless of where you stand on African American’s for Obama, is it not “fair and balanced” to include the ENTIRE pic and not just the one being sold on Drudge, Fox, talk radio and the right leaning blogs

“This month we’re announcing the 2012 launch of African-Americans for Obama,” he said in a video. “I don’t think there’s a better time than African-American History Month to consider the tremendous progress we’ve made through the sacrifices of so many.”

African-Americans for Obama is part of the campaign’s Operation Vote, which targets individual voting blocs, including Jews, Hispanics, gays and African-Americans.

“This campaign is powered by folks at every level, taking ownership where it matters most — around the kitchen table, in barber shops and beauty salons, in your faith community, at work or at school,” Obama said.

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
11:18 am

LOL Peadawg, you saw that too.

USinUK. Don’t worry, the rest of the world does. It’s the 4th biggest “sports event” in the World as ranked by Forbes a couple of years ago. 1. Superbowl 2.Summer Olympics 3. FIFA Men’s World Cup 4. Daytona 500.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:18 am

williebkind

February 27th, 2012
11:19 am

You liberals sure are funny! I am guessing when you are a spend free person it makes you humorous. Gas $3.70 and rising. You liberals are starving an oil based economy of oil. You answers are walking, mass transits, and cycling. You are a bunch of spoiled people who think everyone except you should pay the price of your ideology.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:19 am

Fred – really??!! I’m surprised that World Cup is #3 and that Formula 1 isn’t in the top ones …

the Summer Olympics – I totally get that!

Jay

February 27th, 2012
11:19 am

Oct. 17, 2008:

“U.S. Sen. Mel Martinez, former senator and presidential candidate Fred Thompson and actress Katie Barberi will headline the “Latinos for McCain” picnic in Tampa on Saturday.”

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
11:20 am

Fred – “Damn. Now the race is postponed until 7PM………”

Hey Fred, this is a political blog, could you please leave “race” out of it? ;)

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:20 am

“You are a bunch of spoiled people who think everyone except you should pay the price of your ideology.”

and you’re a spoiled person who thinks you’re entitled to gas at $1/gal.

Adam

February 27th, 2012
11:20 am

Towncrier: I saw links on ****Drudge**** and viewed the actual video in which Obama makes his appeal.

And then…

So, in the interest of intellectual honesty, why don’t you please stop deflecting and address the question for us?

Hilarious!

Just because you didn’t get the daily talking point from the source that a lot of others do, doesn’t mean that you didn’t repeat the talking point anyway.

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
11:20 am

They BOTH suck

February 27th, 2012
11:17 am
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Hush now. Republicans don’t want the TRUTH, they just want to toss out “talking points” lies and crap taken out of context.

Don't Forget

February 27th, 2012
11:21 am

People of faith are free to argue their positions in the public square but if the justification for the law or policy that they want is purely religious, and they are successful in their attempts to implement the policy or law, then that policy or law is based on theology and by definition violates separation of church and state. It’s just that simple.

Jay

February 27th, 2012
11:22 am

“Seeking to drive a wedge into Democrat Barack Obama’s strong support from Hispanic voters and peel off voters in a key demographic, Hispanic organizers for Republican John McCain are quietly mounting a major push on the abortion issue….

“We are telling them, ‘If you are Hispanic and a Christian, you should vote with your principles,’” said Tibi Ellis, a Las Vegas business owner and co-chairwoman of the national Latinas for McCain coalition, which held a gathering in Las Vegas last week. “Our job is to inform Hispanic voters that Senator Obama is against life.”

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
11:22 am

Butch :lol:

USinUK: Formula 1 isn’t even in the top 10. It’s not racing anyway.

JamVet - There are two types of Republicans, millionaires and suckers.

February 27th, 2012
11:22 am

That funny parting shot at the fear mongering neo-con from NY, vis a vis, that long list of terrorist operatives that BHO has gotten killed, cracked me up.

Remember when Rudy Giuliani warned that electing Barack Obama would mean that the U.S. played defense, not offense, against the terrorists?

If this is defense, what does offense look like?

Imagine that? An Uppity Muslim punking the GOP punks at their own war on terror game?

Too funny…

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
11:23 am

“http://jewsformccain.blogspot.com/”

What is this link supposed to represent? Is that your response to my post, Jay? Obama made a video specifically appealing to black voters. Why don’t you weigh in on this at least?

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
11:23 am

williebkind – “You are a bunch of spoiled people who think everyone except you should pay the price of your ideology.”

No, we think that everyone should be held accountable for their choices and take responsibility for them. We also believe that the the free market can and should dictate the price of oil. What’s your ideology, Free gas for everyone?

They BOTH suck

February 27th, 2012
11:24 am

How funny that Obama’s distractors knew of Operation Vote at lease since September, but didn’t start crying until he pointed out African Americans…………………

Boy a headline can get people jumping and running down rabbit holes in seconds…….. People are acting as if this is new “news” because Fox, talk radio and Drudge want to know spin one piece of the puzzle as it is the entire pic………

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-2012-campaigns-operation-vote-focuses-on-ethnic-minorities-core-liberals/2011/09/23/gIQAlY7JuK_story.html

It will coordinate recruitment of an ethnic volunteer base and push out targeted messages online and through the media to groups such as blacks, Hispanics, Jews, women, seniors, young people, gays and Asian Americans.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 27th, 2012
11:24 am

Well, I guess I’ll have to show up without my Talking Points tomorrow. I can’t tune in to Fox News and watch the race at the same time tonight.

Peadawg

February 27th, 2012
11:24 am

Fred, where was the Indy 500 on that list? That’s the only indycar/formula 1 type race that I’ll watch. The top 4 is pretty spot on I think.

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
11:24 am

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
11:23 am

“http://jewsformccain.blogspot.com/”

What is this link supposed to represent? Is that your response to my post, Jay? Obama made a video specifically appealing to black voters. Why don’t you weigh in on this at least?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Your lie has already been exposed here. Time for you to move on to the next lie.

Adam

February 27th, 2012
11:25 am

Towncrier: Why don’t you start by detailing what problem YOU have with it, specifically, without resorting to “well if a Republican candidate did ______….”

Jm

February 27th, 2012
11:26 am

Blogspot? :D hilarious

carlosgvv

February 27th, 2012
11:26 am

USinUK – 11:15

You have to compare it to the rest of what’s on TV. Such jewels as American Idol, Biggest Loser etc. etc. etc. etc. Get the picture?

Jay

February 27th, 2012
11:26 am

“”Mitt reaches out to Hispanics while demonstrating fiscal conservatism:
The campaign’s “Hispanics for Romney” coalition promised yesterday that hosts of house parties for the Univision debate on December 9 with more than 20 attendees will receive an autographed photo of Governor Romney. The one with the biggest attendance in the country will get an autographed photo AND “a personal thank you note from the Governor!” The value of those awards, according to Romney Shop prices for personalized buttons, comes to $6.75.”

deegee

February 27th, 2012
11:26 am

I don’t know if it’s flu season or the Catholic bishops’ tirade, but my casual observation is that attendance at 5:00pm Saturday mass is down about 25%. Plenty of room in the pews. I know it’s not football season.

I think that Santorum is confusing people of religious denominations with people of faith. When you place more importance on your denomination than your faith, you are probably a difficult person to get along with.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:27 am

“USinUK: Formula 1 isn’t even in the top 10. It’s not racing anyway.”

I’ve walked on the course in Monaco (since it’s actually the street people drive on) – if you can manage those hairpin turns at speed, that’s racing to me!

Willydoit?

February 27th, 2012
11:27 am

“No, we think that everyone should be held accountable for their choices and take responsibility for them. We also believe that the the free market can and should dictate the price of oil. What’s your ideology, Free gas for everyone?”

So, now you are a republican???? Make up your mind!

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
11:30 am

USinUK… those are some sharp turns. But great views!

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
11:30 am

“Just because you didn’t get the daily talking point from the source that a lot of others do, doesn’t mean that you didn’t repeat the talking point anyway.”

Come on. Adam. That is childish. And it is nothing but a deflection. For it is a FACT that Obama made a video specifically appealing to black voters. Have you even bothered to look at it? Personally, I find that objectionable. I have never been racist in my life and am bothered that a man who promised a post racial America is now using racist tactics to get reelected. I guess that sits well with people like you.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:30 am

carlos – 11:26 – have you guys gotten Stars on Ice, yet??? (think Dancing with the Stars … on ice) …

or “I’m a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here” – Z-list celebs meets Big Brother meets Fear Factor.

gah.

give me Law and Order any day of the week.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:31 am

Keep Up – yeah – could never afford to live there, but it was a nice way to spend the day :-)

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
11:31 am

Peadawg: Just found a newer list and the Daytona 500 has dropped to 7th. Indy 500 still isn’t in the top 10, (nor is any other race or racing series). That’s hilarious. Shows how much little Brian France has killed NASCAR.

http://karllusbec.wordpress.com/2011/10/05/nike-leads-forbes-list-of-most-valuable-sports-brands/

Jay

February 27th, 2012
11:31 am

Oct. 30, 2000:

In fact, Mr. Bush’s only public event today was a satellite address to a gathering of California Latinos for Bush in Anaheim Hills. In those remarks, he seized on new language and evidence to press his charge that Mr. Gore’s proposed programs would make the federal government too large.

They BOTH suck

February 27th, 2012
11:31 am

Adam @ 11;25

I have already blew that out of the water…….. It is very easy to see that Drudge, Fox, talk radio and the right leaning blogs achieved their goal………. Tell a fraction of the story and bet big in Vegas that those who follow them will run with it…….

As you can see, several on here appear to be running a marathon and the bets are being paid out in Vegas

The Doobie Brothers once wrote a song these type people

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDWGKQcQ8zw

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
11:32 am

Willydoit? – “So, now you are a republican???? Make up your mind!”

I’m a capitalist. Pure and simple. Letting the markets operate as they were intended is not a Left/Right thing. However, from reading the posts on here, it’s obvious that the Republicans are now the party of government intervention and socialism. All it took was $1.50 increase per gallon for them to go running to Obama to save them.

Thank God I left the GOP when I did.

Guy Incognito

February 27th, 2012
11:32 am

UnU

The Form 1 Champs come to NASCAR and fail because it’s much easier to drive a Form 1 car than a Sprint Cup car. The best drivers in the world are humbled when they try NASCAR

Normal

February 27th, 2012
11:33 am

williebkind

February 27th, 2012
11:19 am
You’ve got to explain this one…how “walking, mass transits, and cycling.” make you think…”You are a bunch of spoiled people who think everyone except you should pay the price of your ideology…”

When something happens that is beyond your control, you have to adjust, or pay the going price. It’s very simple really, walking, biking, and mass transit will mean less demand, more supply and then lower prices.
Boycott the gas stations if you feel you have to, but conservation is the best.

They BOTH suck

February 27th, 2012
11:34 am

Towncrier

Than I assume you didn’t vote for Bush based on the examples being shown of his campaign also targeted different demographic groups

Guess you do not vote much at all or only want to call it out when the targeting is from Democrats

Jay

February 27th, 2012
11:34 am

Arlington, VA – Today, Bush-Cheney ‘04 launched its African Americans for Bush National Steering Committee in Detroit, Michigan. The Honorable Alphonso Jackson, former U.S. Congressman J.C. Watts and Actor Joseph Phillips joined Bush supporters at a press conference to introduce the 61-member team.

The African Americans for Bush National Steering Committee will lead the campaign’s outreach efforts to the African American community nationwide and serve as messengers of the President’s positive agenda.

Former U.S. Congressman J.C. Watts praised President Bush’s economic plan. “One hundred eleven million people now have lower tax bills. Small businesses and community entrepreneurs got a tax cut. Almost 15 percent of small businesses are owned by minorities. Now they are keeping more of their money. They’re hiring more workers. The economy is growing faster than it has in nearly 20 years – and we’ve added 1.5 million new jobs since last August,” said Watts.

Any more questions?

Mad Max

February 27th, 2012
11:34 am

A lot has happened in those 60 years and at the time, that speech was intended to head off the effort to discount him as a Catholic. There was a large (unfounded) fear by both the fringe left and right (at least according to my recollection) at the time of having a Catholic in the the White House as they assumed that he would be required to take orders from the Pope. Of course they also feared anyone who was not an old WASP back then. Remember he was also attacked because of his age and inexperience and his inexperience ended up being an issue in some of the key events of his presidency.

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
11:34 am

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:27 am

“USinUK: Formula 1 isn’t even in the top 10. It’s not racing anyway.”

I’ve walked on the course in Monaco (since it’s actually the street people drive on) – if you can manage those hairpin turns at speed, that’s racing to me!
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Naw, it’s some of the most amazing automotive technology. I don’t know why they even have drivers sit in the cars with all the traction control, automatic starts, remote control suspension changes ect…. seems like all they need is a kid in a room with a joystick.

Racing is where one car will pass another one. That never happens in F1.

Bruno

February 27th, 2012
11:35 am

It’s important to remember that bit of history whenever you see statements like “the price of gasoline has more than doubled under President Obama.” While true, it’s only true because of the economic meltdown that occurred just before he took office.

I’ll remember this quote next time you go bragging about how the stock market has risen so much under Obama, Jay. You can’t have it both ways, though I’m sure you’ll try.

Jay

February 27th, 2012
11:36 am

So Crier, explain to me how it is perfectly fine for the Bush campaign to create “African-Americans for Bush” yet somehow racist for Obama to do the same.

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
11:37 am

Normal – “When something happens that is beyond your control, you have to adjust, or pay the going price.”

Or, just alter the Decleration of Independence to read:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Escalades.” :)

They BOTH suck

February 27th, 2012
11:37 am

Towncrier

You are a smart man……….. Please cut your loses on the issue of voters being targeted by Dem as you know it is done by both Parties.

On this issue, you wanted so bad to believe it was a one sided story and failed to do your research.

It is ok, we all step in it sometime…………….. some more than others

Normal

February 27th, 2012
11:37 am

UsinUK, Pea…

I only watch NASCAR because of all the left turns…good liberal entertainment there…

Jay

February 27th, 2012
11:38 am

Bruno, the only time I cite the stock market is as a rebuttal to those who claim that Obama is a socialist who hates business and wants to drive this country into the economic ditch.

Guy Incognito

February 27th, 2012
11:38 am

Normal

Nice 11:37.

Well played sir

Becky

February 27th, 2012
11:39 am

Jay-all your facts go right over their heads but thanks for the laughs.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
11:40 am

Newt Gingrich’s campaign released a new ad Friday directed towards the Arizona Latino community, ahead of the state’s February 28 primary.

Feinting couch for the offended, stat!!!!!!

Peadawg

February 27th, 2012
11:40 am

I’m content with that list, Fred. Maybe switch the MLB All-Star week for the Indy 500. But other than that…pretty good.

“I only watch NASCAR because of all the left turns…good liberal entertainment there…” – Nice…

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
11:41 am

Obama made a video specifically appealing to black voters.

It’s ok for white people to do that but black people should be called out for it.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:41 am

Guy – to me it still equals guys driving around in a circle.

after reading the Art of Racing in the Rain, I know there’s a lot of skill to it … but it jsut doesn’t blow my skirt up.

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
11:41 am

Normal@ 11:37: :lol: I guess then the races at Watkins Glenn and Infineon Raceway are out for you.

Retired Vet

February 27th, 2012
11:42 am

Freedom of religion does not mean religious bullying to the point that people use their religion to force the government’s hand thereby denying freedoms and privileges enshrined in the constitution to others who do not share their religious ideology.

Don't Forget

February 27th, 2012
11:42 am

Jay

February 27th, 2012
11:36 am

So Crier, explain to me how it is perfectly fine for the Bush campaign to create “African-Americans for Bush” yet somehow racist for Obama to do the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuBkWHfCuc

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
11:43 am

“So Crier, explain to me how it is perfectly fine for the Bush campaign to create “African-Americans for Bush” yet somehow racist for Obama to do the same.”

I don’t have a problem with anyone targeting specific ethnic groups in a campaign, but I do have a problem with someone – a sitting black president – appearing in a video showing images of MLK and footage from the civil rights movement. Come on, do you want to tell me that this isn’t more than a simple appeal to an ethnic group? It is implicitly saying “vote for me because I am black” (not because of what I shall do for you). It is implicitly racial. Have you even seen it?

http://www.barackobama.com/videos?source=primary-nav

JamVet - There are two types of Republicans, millionaires and suckers.

February 27th, 2012
11:43 am

The GOP has elected exactly ONE black US Senator EVER – Edward William Brooke, III, Massachusetts, 1967 – 1979. (No doubt a RINO. LOL!)

And of the one hundred and one black members of the US House since 1935 – the GOP has elected THREE. EVER.

Four black men in 77 years vs. 102 black men and women for the Democrats.

What’s left to say but that when it comes to racial representation, you boys are a total mess…

TaxPayer

February 27th, 2012
11:44 am

That Latino vote outreach by Gingrich not too long ago did not go too well. Perhaps if he had been able to communicate with the host more effectively… :lol:

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
11:45 am

USinUK: You can’t really tell til you actually go to a race and have 43 cars go by you at 200MPH an inch apart, (sometimes on all 4 sides) and then suddenly make a 180 and are back up to 200 in seconds…. I mean there are left turns and then there are left turns…………

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:46 am

“I do have a problem with someone – a sitting black president – appearing in a video showing images of MLK and footage from the civil rights movement.”

um. why?

TaxPayer

February 27th, 2012
11:47 am

Towncrier has found Obama’s achille’s heel — he’s black. What will he do. What can he do. Appealing to the black vote would be so wrong. :lol:

Trolls Bane

February 27th, 2012
11:47 am

Santorum is an unabashed papist who would like nothing better to make Catholic church the official church and then instituted the Inquisition … where they burned people at the stake for the crime of disagreeing …

JamVet - There are two types of Republicans, millionaires and suckers.

February 27th, 2012
11:47 am

NASCAR races generally hold my attention for about five minutes.

Formula One, I can watch for awhile, once in awhile.

Personally, I much more a fan of the submarine races…

Guy Incognito

February 27th, 2012
11:48 am

Fred

Attending a NASCAR event is an experience in sensory overload. The 1st time I got smacked in the chest by the thunderous roar of those engines……….I was hooked

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
11:49 am

USinUK – “um. why?”

Because Obama is also half white, and to be fair he should have also included the footage of the fire hoses and attack dogs along with some Klan footage. You know, just for balance. :)

Adam

February 27th, 2012
11:49 am

Towncrier: Personally, I find that objectionable

Why?

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
11:49 am

Hmmm… wonder if that problem reaches to claims by Mitt Romney that his father marched with MLK? Why clearly that must be an appeal to “vote for me because you’re black”, right?

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:50 am

Fred – I gave the mister a day at a Porsche track for Valentines day … he drove the new 911 (he said £100K) …

am I a good wife or what?

and, yes, he said that he was taking turns sideways and just loved it but said he nearly shat himself when the instructor took the wheel at the end and was doing those speeds.

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2012
11:50 am

is a FACT that Obama made a video specifically appealing to black voters.

JC on a frickin’ pike, is THAT what you guys are reduced to crying about today?

Adam

February 27th, 2012
11:51 am

stands: JC on a frickin’ pike, is THAT what you guys are reduced to crying about today?

It does seem a bit odd…. putting it as mildly as I possibly can….

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:52 am

Guy – 11:48 – that’s how I feel about college football – the first time I went to Death Valley stadium and heard the roar of 80K+ fans … totally hooked.

Adam

February 27th, 2012
11:53 am

Towncrier: So far, what I hear from you is, Obama is black and is appealing to black voters and is using MLK and civil rights imagery as part of this appeal.

What I don’t understand is why this has inspired your outrage.

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2012
11:53 am

Edward William Brooke, III, Massachusetts, 1967 – 1979. (No doubt a RINO. LOL!)

Seemed like a decent bloke, when I heard him interviewed a few years back (by David Bender, on his AAR “Politically Direct” radio show… sorry, don’t have a link.) He didn’t make any really nasty remarks about what had become of the GOP today, but he was clearly not happy with their direction. Still, he considered it to still be his party.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
11:54 am

Hooray! Kyle called me a pest. I can take the rest of the day off!

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:54 am

Adam – I believe you mean poutrage.

Peadawg

February 27th, 2012
11:54 am

“Attending a NASCAR event is an experience in sensory overload. The 1st time I got smacked in the chest by the thunderous roar of those engines……….I was hooked”

AMEN!!!!!

Normal

February 27th, 2012
11:55 am

I seem to remember that at the Conservative Conference CPAC, there was a white Supremest lecturing on “The Failure of Multiculturalism”…

Like I said earlier on, President Obama is just playing by the rules set down by the GOP…

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
11:56 am

“um. why?”

Because the civil rights movement was supposed to be the end of race in politics and Obama himself spoke of a “post racial” America in his initial campaign and, of course, there would be no end of the rants here if Newt Gingrich made a similar video, specifically targeting whites (you know, caucasians for Newt), and asking them to vote for him because he is white. Deflect all you want, but you hold to a double standard.

Adam

February 27th, 2012
11:56 am

I mean, if we try to avoid the whole racial angle a little bit, are we saying it is wrong somehow to try to appeal to low information voters by using imagery and words that don’t have anything to do with actual policy?

If so, where is this outrage over similar appeals to low information voters by Republicans running against an Obama straw man instead of the real Obama?

Peadawg

February 27th, 2012
11:56 am

Finn @ 11:54.

LOL awesome. *cyber high five*

ragnar danneskjold

February 27th, 2012
11:57 am

Dear Jay @ 11:38, perhaps we can agree that you cannot cite his policies for rebuttal!

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
11:58 am

The 1st time I got smacked in the chest by the thunderous roar of those engines……….I was hooked”

The first time I brushed the tire rubber out of my teeth I was hooked.

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
11:58 am

Towncrier: Your attempts at racial divide aren’t going very well. I thought that was an awesome ad.

As a “group” blacks in America have traditionally voted Democrat by a huge percentage. It’s in the 90’s maybe even as high as 95% or more.

As to what Brother Barry is “doing?” I’m all for it. Regardless of the tactic he’s using, he is getting AMERICANS off their butts and involved in the election process. I don’t care if it’s “religious nutcases” using abortion to get people to the polls or Obama using race, the underlying principle is the samwe. Get people to care, to vote. And that only makes us as a nation stronger.

You really should actually READ Dreams from my Father, not just repeat the quotes taken put of context that the talk shows and websites use. You might actually learn something.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2012
11:59 am

“Because the civil rights movement was supposed to be ”

“supposed to be” does not equal “IS” – not yet, anyway.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
11:59 am

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
11:59 am

“Why?”

Adam: Can you not understand English? How many times do I have to explain before it sinks in?

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
12:01 pm

if Newt Gingrich made a similar video, specifically targeting whites (you know, caucasians for Newt), and asking them to vote for him because he is white

Someone obviously forgot the “food stamp President” targeting.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
12:02 pm

The first time I brushed the tire rubber out of my teeth I was hooked

Dang that 5th dentist, 4 others recommend Trident!

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
12:02 pm

Regardless of the tactic he’s using, he is getting AMERICANS off their butts and involved in the election process.”

Thank you, Fred, for that partial concession. Geez, it seems getting liberals to admit their man has done something wrong or even questionable is like pulling teeth.

Soothsayer

February 27th, 2012
12:02 pm

What will Little Rickie say today?

Adam

February 27th, 2012
12:03 pm

Towncrier: Geez, it seems getting liberals to admit their man has done something wrong or even questionable is like pulling teeth.

I don’t see anything particularly wrong or objectionable in what he is doing, nor do I see any such concession from Fred.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2012
12:04 pm

“I don’t see anything particularly wrong or objectionable in what he is doing, nor do I see any such concession from Fred”

I agree, on both.

Normal

February 27th, 2012
12:04 pm

Towncrier
Read my 1155…What is so different?

Becky

February 27th, 2012
12:04 pm

Does anyone else suspect Towncrier is really td? He/she keeps bleating the same gop talking points over and over with no original thought.

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
12:05 pm

“I don’t see anything particularly wrong or objectionable in what he is doing, nor do I see any such concession from Fred.”

So, if Newt Gingrich made a similar video, specifically targeting whites (you know, caucasians for Newt), and asking them to vote for him because he was white, that would be alright with you? You wouldn’t see “anything particularly wrong or objectionable” in that? Just to be clear.

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
12:06 pm

Nor am I a liberal lol. I’m just not a republican……….

Becky

February 27th, 2012
12:07 pm

Towncrier-haven’t you seen the ad put out by Santorum-Honkies for Jeebus?

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2012
12:07 pm

“So, if Newt Gingrich made a similar video, specifically targeting whites (you know, caucasians for Newt), and asking them to vote for him because he was white, that would be alright with you?”

What would be objectionable about it? Besides, he’s already doing it…he just uses inuendo instead of a direct appeal.

Bruno

February 27th, 2012
12:07 pm

in my opinion. JFK spoke strongly against letting church leaders dictate public policy to politicians who shared their faith; he said nothing about barring individuals of faith from the public square. Nor did he belittle the power of faith in informing a person’s conscience.

Per the main thrust of your article, Santorum claimed in the last debate that while he planned to be a vocal advocate for his beliefs, he didn’t plan to use the force of government to carry them out. In practice, I see that he has been extremely active in sponsoring and cosponsoring legislation to restrict abortion. He also pledged support for funding of Abstinence Only sex education in school, which is in contrast to his above statement about not using the force of government. The deciding factor for me is the Terry Schiavo case. Huge overreach by the government. So, for me, I don’t trust Santorum to keep his private views private.

http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profiles/Senate/Pennsylvania/Rick_Santorum/Views/Abortion/

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
12:08 pm

“Does anyone else suspect Towncrier is really td? He/she keeps bleating the same gop talking points over and over with no original thought.

Uninspired deflection.

Brosephus

February 27th, 2012
12:08 pm

I do have a problem with someone – a sitting black president – appearing in a video showing images of MLK and footage from the civil rights movement.

Huh???

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2012
12:08 pm

Towncrier, perchance are you one of those guys who goes a little nuts every time you are reminded there’s such a thing as a Congressional Black Caucus, and cry about how people would react if there were a Congressional White Caucus?

Guy Incognito

February 27th, 2012
12:08 pm

UnU

I’ve experienced that same Death Valley kick to the chest, and it was very impressive. Now crank that up about another 25dbl and you get the picture of what a NASCAR event is like

Finn

I’ve been sprayed with the dirt behind turn 2 at Dixie Speedway in Woodstock, GA, and enjoyed the short tracks at New Smyrna, FL and Slinger, WI. Good times

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
12:08 pm

Towncrier: I wouldn’t see a thing wrong with that, but I’m sure Jesse Jackson would raise all kinds of holy hell lol, and the press would jump on it as well.

But he (Newt) DID do something similar with his “foodstamp” president remark.

Jay

February 27th, 2012
12:09 pm

Adam

February 27th, 2012
12:10 pm

Towncrier: So, if Newt Gingrich made a similar video, specifically targeting whites (you know, caucasians for Newt), and asking them to vote for him because he was white, that would be alright with you?

First, that would require the video to specifically be asking black people to vote for Obama because he is black. Since that is not happening…..

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
12:10 pm

Towncrier – “Because the civil rights movement was supposed to be the end of race in politics and Obama himself spoke of a “post racial” America in his initial campaign and, of course, there would be no end of the rants here if Newt Gingrich made a similar video, specifically targeting whites (you know, caucasians for Newt), and asking them to vote for him because he is white. Deflect all you want, but you hold to a double standard.”

actually, it was NOT about the end of race in politics – it was about the end of RACISM in EVERYDAY LIFE.

(and very interesting that you don’t understand the difference).

The fact that you take offense that Obama would dare appear in a video marking that he has actually achieved the promise that a black man could be elected president – only a little over 40 years after black men were killed for simply tryng to vote – is very sad.

St Simons - we're on Island time

February 27th, 2012
12:10 pm

really? poutrage as a pretty much your whole party platform? really?

good luck wit dat

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
12:11 pm

“What would be objectionable about it?”

Because it is racist. And basically, it goes against the law of the land – namely that race is not to be a consideration for employment. Obama, Newt and all of the others are seeking employment as our commander-in-chief.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
12:12 pm

Jay –

bit.ly

it’s your friend.

love ya, but just sayin.

JOE COOL

February 27th, 2012
12:12 pm

Butch Cassidy

February 27th, 2012
11:49 am

Good one!

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
12:12 pm

Guy: How about NASCAR at Bristol lol? Talk about some dB’s………..

USinUK: That was wicked cool. Sounds like the equivalent of the “Richard Petty Driving Experience” over here only better. I have a buddy that has a porshe (forget which flavor). Once or twice a year he treats himself to a day at Road Atlanta (the Porsche club sponsors it) and he does the same. He also made the same comment about his driving and the difference when the “instructor” took over. He said it trashes a new set of tires, but WTH, he’s a brain surgeon, he can afford it.

bman

February 27th, 2012
12:12 pm

am i the only one who hasn’t seen this video?

carlosgvv

February 27th, 2012
12:12 pm

USinUK – 11:30

I’m not certain about Stars on Ice. To me, Law and Order CI, is the best American show on the air now. All of my other favorites are British – Dr. Who, Torchwood, Primeval and MI-5. Unfortunately, MI-5 is not shown here and I have to get it on DVD. Also, for whatever the reason, British actors seem always to be better than American. Do they all start off with Shakespear training?

Adam

February 27th, 2012
12:13 pm

USinUK: it was about the end of RACISM in EVERYDAY LIFE.

And as we can see from out-and-out racist rhetoric from people on multiple websites and on mainstream TV, as well as at political rallies, racism is still very much alive – perhaps even worse before it gets better – because we now have a black President.

To ignore such a reality by yelling “RACE CARD” or similar is to not admit that we have a problem, and therefore come up with no solution for it.

Brosephus

February 27th, 2012
12:13 pm

The 1st time I got smacked in the chest by the thunderous roar of those engines……….I was hooked”

The first time I brushed the tire rubber out of my teeth I was hooked.

Back in the old days, you could get close enough to the track to get the chain link fence pattern “airbrushed” on your clothes as the cars passed by.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
12:15 pm

He asks black people to vote for him because he’s black? because he’s the only black man running? Is that what he says?

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
12:15 pm

“Geez, it seems getting liberals to admit their man has done something wrong or even questionable is like pulling teeth.”

so, appearing in a video with MLK is wrong.

to you people, the guy is wrong for simply BREATHING. Frankly, I’m surprised you haven’t accused him of being anti-CO2 for breathing IN oxygen and breathing OUT carbon dioxide … or maybe you want to say he’s not green enough for doing that …

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2012
12:15 pm

“What would be objectionable about it?”

Because it is racist.

Boy howdy, just when I think the “R” word can’t be any more dumbed down than it already is…

anyhow, I gots to run. Don’t form a “Crackuhz fo’ ‘Bama” super-PAC without me.

Guy Incognito

February 27th, 2012
12:16 pm

Bro

You still can at the home tracks

Guy Incognito

February 27th, 2012
12:16 pm

Fred

Bristol is on the “list”

MiltonMan

February 27th, 2012
12:16 pm

JFK to his mindless minions: I am a Catholic…

JFK in reality: I use my religion when it is convenient and it is not convenient when it gets in my way of having multiple affairs.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
12:17 pm

So, Santorum saying “vote for me cause I’m a closet homosexual” would be wrong?

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
12:17 pm

“Towncrier: I wouldn’t see a thing wrong with that, but I’m sure Jesse Jackson would raise all kinds of holy hell lol, and the press would jump on it as well.”

Thank you for that, Fred. At least YOU are being honest.

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
12:18 pm

Adam

February 27th, 2012
12:10 pm

Towncrier: So, if Newt Gingrich made a similar video, specifically targeting whites (you know, caucasians for Newt), and asking them to vote for him because he was white, that would be alright with you?

First, that would require the video to specifically be asking black people to vote for Obama because he is black. Since that is not happening…..
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Come on Adam don’t be obtuse. Did you watch the video? He may not have said, “Vote for me because I’m black,” but the message was heavily implied. He uses the words “we and us” countless times. There is no mistaking the message. But again I still don’t see any thing wrong with it. It’s the very basic: “You are like me, we are the same, so vote for me,” message that every politician everywhere uses to get the people to identify with them and not the other candidates. Whether it’s “we’re both Black” or “we’re both Dawg fans” or whatever.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
12:19 pm

carlos – “Do they all start off with Shakespear training?”

I don’t know about Shakespeare training, but , yeah, RADA is all about stagework. and, the really interesting thing is that the lines here between TV / Movies / Stage are a lot more blurred here – Judi Dench is a prime example – still does a lot of stage work, and is in movies and does the occasional TV show.

if you haven’t seen the UK version of Law and Order, check it out – la-la-LOVE it!

yuzeyurbrane

February 27th, 2012
12:19 pm

It makes me vomit when I hear Christian fanatics proclaim this is a Christian nation. This is both a brazen lie and a brazen display of ignorance and bigotry. Let them nominate Santorum and let’s have an electoral showdown over what this country believes in.

Becky

February 27th, 2012
12:19 pm

Miltonman-the big and huge difference is JFK didn’t care what anyone else’s religion was. Can you see the difference?

godless heathen©

February 27th, 2012
12:19 pm

“I’m not certain about Stars on Ice. To me, Law and Order CI, is the best American show on the air now.”

Wipeout! Not very high brow, but the puns are hilarious.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2012
12:19 pm

“And basically, it goes against the law of the land – namely that race is not to be a consideration for employment”

Nope. Those laws prevent the EMPLOYER from using race as a condition of employment, they do not prevent the EMPLOYEE from pointing out their own race as a reason for employment.

ken

February 27th, 2012
12:20 pm

Santorum does not have Muslim roots.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
12:20 pm

Does this outrage namely that race is not to be a consideration for employment that applies to the “Food Stamp President” also apply when Santorum stands quietly takes a question that includes false accusations that the President is Muslim. I am sure that Ricky stood up and said “religion is not a factor to be considered for employment”…. oh wait, he stood there.

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
12:21 pm

Jay@ 12:09: That picture really struck me hard. I stared at it for a long time and tried to find someone, ANYONE who wasn’t white and I couldn’t. I can’t think of any event I have been to that was that large where there wasn’t SOMEONE who was Indian, Hispanic, Black, Asian, SOMETHING other than white.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
12:21 pm

“JFK in reality: I use my religion when it is convenient and it is not convenient when it gets in my way of having multiple affairs.”

same can be said with the “C-Street Project”

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/09/13/100913fa_fact_boyer

They BOTH suck

February 27th, 2012
12:21 pm

Guy Igcognito

While not a huge follower as I once was I have been to numerous NASCAR races, F1 (Montreal), KART (now defunct, but at Laguna Seca) and several Indy races………

I do not get into who has the best drivers, etc, but if you don’t mind the “red”……… For my money; Talladega is the best spectator race, especially with 25 or less to go

It is a spectacle to see…… and I’m not just talking about the fans at the race

JamVet - There are two types of Republicans, millionaires and suckers.

February 27th, 2012
12:22 pm

Jay, LOL.

Just wait til that gathering in Tampa later this year.

In 2008, among the GOP’s 2,380 delegates gathered in St. Paul, only 36 were African Americans and very few other visible minorities were to be found on the convention floor.

For the past six years there has not been a single black Republican governor, senator or representative in the US Congress.

BTW, that figure for the last GOP convention was a whopping 1.5%.

And this observation just cracked me up…

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who did not appear at the convention, is like a tree hiding in the forest of the Republican landscape.

How the hell, in this day and age, can the GOP have gone backwards in racial representation???

Lou

February 27th, 2012
12:22 pm

Yet Obama can attend a church for 20 years that preaches hate from the pulpit and spend three years as an abject failure as President, but you want to focus on Santorum’s moral compass. Way to go AJC!! If the progressives are so open minded, then why not be open to someone who is different….maybe you aren’t as progressive as you think.

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
12:23 pm

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
12:12 pm

Jay –

bit.ly

it’s your friend.

love ya, but just sayin.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Elucidate for us stoopid people please.

Brosephus

February 27th, 2012
12:23 pm

Guy

Sweet!!! I wish I still had at least one of those tshirts from back in the day. That was THE thing to do at Talladega back in the day.

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
12:24 pm

“The fact that you take offense that Obama would dare appear in a video marking that he has actually achieved the promise that a black man could be elected president – only a little over 40 years after black men were killed for simply tryng to vote – is very sad.”

The fact that you would readily excuse behavior in Obama you would likely condemn in a white politician (but probably not in another minority politician unless he or she was Republican) is most sad. At least Fred admit a whole lot of people would have a problem with Newt doing a similar thing. I don’t have any problem acknowledging the faults of conservatives, because that is the truth.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
12:24 pm

Fred – 12:12 – don’t think I’d want to do it with my own car – as you say, not particularly good for the tires … but, yeah – if they’re supplying the automobobble, let loose!

They BOTH suck

February 27th, 2012
12:24 pm

Bro

I forgot you are from Alabama……… You know about some Talladega………..

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 27th, 2012
12:25 pm

Obama can attend a church for 20 years that preaches hate from the pulpit

Conservatives think that speech by Rev Wright was the same every week for 20 years? Just an endless loop?

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
12:25 pm

Bman: If you haven’t seen the video it’s your own fault lol. He linked it. Here I’ll link it again. It may appear n a page with several videos, if so, click the one that says: President Obama Announces the 2012 Launch of African Americans for Obama.

http://www.barackobama.com/videos?source=primary-nav

They BOTH suck

February 27th, 2012
12:27 pm

Towncrier

Keep up the good fight……… You came with a small piece to a large picture, but you are hanging on.

No mention that the Republican Party does the same thing. No mention that Obama is also targeting other groups and not just blacks.

It’s all good…………. hang on

Thanks for the belly laughs

bman

February 27th, 2012
12:27 pm

I just watched the ad. It isn’t a simple “African Americans for Obama” campaign. He tries to relate the struggles of the past (slavery, civil rights movement) and tie it together as to why it’s so important that they not forget and continue with progress. And yeah, he played the race card with it.

He will need the African American vote in record numbers to win

Bruno

February 27th, 2012
12:27 pm

And basically, it goes against the law of the land – namely that race is not to be a consideration for employment. Obama, Newt and all of the others are seeking employment as our commander-in-chief.

TC–The bottom line is that there are two distinct mindsets at work here. Let’s start from an assumption of good will, that both political parties have the same goal in mind: a color-free America. On the conservative side, the belief is that the best way to achieve a color-blind society is to remove all references to race on job applications, college applications, etc. and to apply the law equally to everyone by not favoring or disfavoring any person based on their skin color. On the liberal side, the belief is that the best way to achieve a color-blind society is to encourage an equality of outcomes by structuring the law to favor disadvantaged groups.

Leave it to my simple mind to favor the first approach.

Adam

February 27th, 2012
12:27 pm

Fred: He uses the words “we and us” countless times

Just like he does in JUST ABOUT EVERY SPEECH HE GIVES.

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
12:28 pm

“Nope. Those laws prevent the EMPLOYER from using race as a condition of employment, they do not prevent the EMPLOYEE from pointing out their own race as a reason for employment.”

Technical dodge. The president is sworn to uphold the law of the land. So, are you saying he is recommending everyone play up their race in their job interviews? Is that he plan to help joblessness?

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
12:29 pm

“The fact that you would readily excuse behavior in Obama you would likely condemn in a white politician (but probably not in another minority politician unless he or she was Republican) is most sad. ”

“excuse behavior”

he’s appearing in a video with MLK.

there’s nothing there to “excuse” because there’s nothing wrong with that in MOST people’s books … only yours, it seems.

Brosephus

February 27th, 2012
12:30 pm

They BOTH

Even from back before it was “family friendly”. ;)

They BOTH suck

February 27th, 2012
12:32 pm

Finn

“Conservatives think that speech by Rev Wright was the same every week for 20 years? Just an endless loop?”

Yet I can post more inflammatory quotes from Falwell and Robertson than all the Wright quotes that they post and all you get his, well which Republican sat in his their church…..

Everyone knows that both Falwell and Robertson have had much more influence within the NATIONAL Republican Party over the last 30 yrs than Wright even had within local Democratic circles……

Bottom line……. What did all the Wright crying get them last time?

Adam

February 27th, 2012
12:33 pm

If a politician used Klan images to say “vote for me” you’re damn right I’d have a problem with it. As well as someone going “Whites for _____” (any of the white candidates go in that blank). Why the difference? BECAUSE IT’S DIFFERENT.

White men can still easily oppress minorities and women if they want to, from the simple fact they have been in power for so long. Black men or women for that matter, do not have the same running start or opportunity and until that changes you bet your sweet ass I’m gonna have a problem with someone asserting anything that smacks of patriarchy or white privilege.

THERE. There’s your flippin’ honesty Towncrier.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2012
12:33 pm

“He will need the African American vote in record numbers to win”

Maybe not so much:

“Poll: Obama holds double digit leads over Romney and Santorum”
“A Politico/George Washington University Battleground Poll released Monday indicates Obama topping former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney 53% to 43% in a hypothetical general election matchup, with the president leading former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania 53% to 42%”

“Matched up against a generic GOP opponent in the general election (an unnamed candidate who has not suffered negative attacks during the primary process), Obama has a five-point advantage (50%-45%), up from a dead heat back in November. It’s also telling that the president is at or above 50% in all three general election matchups”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/27/poll-obama-holds-double-digit-leads-over-romney-and-santorum/

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
12:34 pm

“Does this outrage namely that race is not to be a consideration for employment that applies to the “Food Stamp President” also apply when Santorum stands quietly takes a question that includes false accusations that the President is Muslim. I am sure that Ricky stood up and said “religion is not a factor to be considered for employment”…. oh wait, he stood there.”

Argumentum ad populum. Have you seen me defending Santorum or Gingrich or Romney here? OF COURSE they have done objectionable things. Now, how about some stinking HONESTY from liberals, instead of a sting of logical fallacies in response? Geez!

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
12:36 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdjoHA5ocwU

okay.

I gotta be honest.

I really don’t get the poutrage.

seriously – what am I missing

Adam

February 27th, 2012
12:37 pm

USinUK: Me either. I think white people with fantasies of returning to white privilege don’t like that their historical “inherent power” has been challenged in any small way, and in order to justify it, they us the projection race card.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2012
12:38 pm

“The president is sworn to uphold the law of the land”

And, as I pointed out, he has not violated it. Want to try again?

“. So, are you saying he is recommending everyone play up their race in their job interviews?”

I haven’t made any speculation about what HE is saying. Want to try again?

bman

February 27th, 2012
12:38 pm

doggone .. .. did you happen to see the USA Today/Gallup poll that was also released today, or are you a choosy poll-site picker?

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
12:39 pm

Bruno: Leave it to my simple mind

Well we both agree that you used only a simple mind to come up with that post of pure ignorance about affirmative action. You ought to put a TM by that go to move.

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
12:39 pm

“Why the difference? BECAUSE IT’S DIFFERENT. White men can still easily oppress minorities and women if they want to, from the simple fact they have been in power for so long. Black men or women for that matter, do not have the same running start or opportunity and until that changes you bet your sweet ass I’m gonna have a problem with someone asserting anything that smacks of patriarchy or white privilege. THERE. There’s your flippin’ honesty Towncrier.”

THANK YOU, Adam. At least you’ve come out with it and are not deflecting anymore. Yours is a double standard, however justified you might think it may be. I have never been racist and have done much to make up for the sins of my “fathers”. So it REALLY bothers me to have someone like YOU try to keep me in the doghouse for something I personally didn’t do for another 50 to 100 years (or whenever it is YOU think we should all finally be treated equally).

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
12:41 pm

“And, as I pointed out, he has not violated it. Want to try again?”

Senseless deflection.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
12:41 pm

So Towncrier, you are saying that your “objection” is about all of the candidates and not limited to Obama but you only stated it as an objection to Obama’s use? :roll:

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
12:41 pm

““The president is sworn to uphold the law of the land””

how in the sweet name of Carol O’Connor has he violated the law of the land?

this is no different than “hispanics for … ” or “Italian Americans for … ” or “Irish for … ”

oy.

Fred ™

February 27th, 2012
12:42 pm

Adam

February 27th, 2012
12:27 pm

Fred: He uses the words “we and us” countless times

Just like he does in JUST ABOUT EVERY SPEECH HE GIVES.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You know what? That is just about the stupidest F’ing thing I think I’ve seen here and there have been some really stupid ones. He uses the the word THE in every speech too dummy. Boy howdy, I scored a point there, I said the.

It’s HOW and WHERE he uses the words Adam. There is NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER, that in that video his “we and us” means BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It doesn’t mean We men, or we Americans, or We Methodists or we anydamnthing else. It’s CRYSTAL CLEAR.

Just damn Adam, pull your head out.

They BOTH suck

February 27th, 2012
12:43 pm

bman

No need for either of you to be choosey……… Let’s look at numerous polls

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html

Adam

February 27th, 2012
12:43 pm

I’m sorry you feel so oppressed Towncrier. I suggest you look on the bright side.

Doggone/GA

February 27th, 2012
12:47 pm

“this is no different than “hispanics for … ” or “Italian Americans for … ” or “Irish for ”

Now, now…that’s just “senseless deflection” doncha know?

bman

February 27th, 2012
12:49 pm

TBS … Obama avg +5.2. That seems about right. The ones I can’t figure out are how Santorum is close, not only with Obama, but with anyone!

As bad as the republican debates have been, the negative press they have received, the recent state of the union speech, the improving economic #’s, I would expect Obama to be up higher in the polls than what we’re seeing. He isn’t, and I think that’s bad news for him.

However, at this point, it doesn’t really matter what any polls show.

Bruno

February 27th, 2012
12:49 pm

Well we both agree that you used only a simple mind to come up with that post of pure ignorance about affirmative action.

Any rebuttal to the post, or are you also reserving the right to snipe at me without backup as you did with K71 earlier?? Pretty lame, even for you…..

They BOTH suck

February 27th, 2012
12:50 pm

Keep up

Even though it took all of 5 minutes (tops) for people to post info that shows Obama’s campaign is targeting numerous groups in different demographics, the Republicans do the exact same thing and the media sources all up in arms only told 1% of the story; TC has to keep the focus on AA and Obama otherwise the narrative loses its steam and focus………..

Let’s be honest here……. To open up the story and speak of ALL the facts around targeting and who does it; shines a LIGHT on the angle that is being portrayed here today

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
12:50 pm

Doggone – you know, a lot of times, it’s a matter of not agreeing rather than not understanding. issues around abortion, for instance – I get where they’re coming from – I understand their POV, I just don’t agree.

with this, I honestly don’t get it.

Bruno

February 27th, 2012
12:50 pm

How bout it, Libs?? Anyone here defending the liberal path to a color-blind society??

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 27th, 2012
12:51 pm

Well, it’s just a flat-out lie the Republican convention don’t have any of Those People. I saw both of them on TV clear as day back in 2008.

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
12:52 pm

“So Towncrier, you are saying that your “objection” is about all of the candidates and not limited to Obama but you only stated it as an objection to Obama’s use?”

In truth, I would have made but a single post had some here said something like “yeah, I see your point and he probably shouldn’t have done that” afterwards. But instead all I got (and am still getting) was deflection, denial, logical fallacies and the like. I think someone like Brosephus would be one who would say we, as a nation, are not going to solve any of our problems or get anywhere without being honest about ourselves. I think it’s a no brainer that Obama shouldn’t have done what he did. Do I hate him for it? Of course not! I respect the man in some ways, even if I think differently on a number of issues. But my initial appeal was to Jay, really. Because it really starts with him (and with Kyle as well): it is fine to advocate for a certain position, but if all you are doing is criticizing the other side without acknowledging their merits and your own failings, you are nothing but a partisan who will help ensure America fails to solve her problems.

They BOTH suck

February 27th, 2012
12:52 pm

bman @ 12:49

You have a point. I do not think it bad or good for Obama at this point. Those on the right have been pointing out that once a nominee is determined than a all out focus will be placed on Obama. That is true; however an all out focus will be placed on that candidate as well

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
12:52 pm

Bruno – if it doesn’t go by a Krispey Kreme, I’m not defending it.

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
12:54 pm

“Now, now…that’s just “senseless deflection” doncha know?”

Who are you quoting? Why don’t you get your citations right before attempting an intelligible post?

Bruno

February 27th, 2012
12:54 pm

LOL @ USinUK–So your efforts to “shift” those extra 15 to an unsuspecting passerby still haven’t worked?? ;-)

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
12:54 pm

Bruno, sorry if you are ignorant about the reasons affirmative action was created. Now if you want to keep posting ignorance and take broad brush swipes of stupidity at “liberals” then I will be glad to point it out without trying to engage your brush approach. If you don’t like it, then post something actually intelligent.

LUCIFER

February 27th, 2012
12:54 pm

Santorum needs to read Tom Paine’s little ditty called “Age of Reason.” It’s frightening that Santorum wants to govern using the supersititions and religious myths of 2,000 years ago. It was exactly this possibility that spurred Paine into action dispelling the fabrications of Christianity and urgently focused him on urging a clear separation of church and state.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
12:55 pm

“I think it’s a no brainer that Obama shouldn’t have done what he did. ”

and, again, I ask – just what did he do that was so bad? I watch the video – he appealed to the african american community to get involved – to remember their past and to play a role in their future.

I wouldn’t have a problem with ANY presidential candidate who did that – if the Kennedys did that with the Irish community or whatever.

I really don’t get what has your boxers in a bunch.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
12:57 pm

Well Town I see that your demands for honesty start apparently with your partisan dishonesty and then cries about how everyone else is partisan. And of course, apples to oranges. But continue your silly poutrage.

USinUK

February 27th, 2012
12:58 pm

Bruno – 12:54 – now, THAT would be deflection I could live with!

Darwin

February 27th, 2012
12:58 pm

And we’re in Afghanistan fighting against who?

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
1:00 pm

Both Suck….. Let’s be honest here……. To open up the story and speak of ALL the facts around targeting and who does it; shines a LIGHT on the angle that is being portrayed here today

Most definitely agree!

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
1:01 pm

“I wouldn’t have a problem with ANY presidential candidate who did that – if the Kennedys did that with the Irish community or whatever.”

Fair enough, but would you concede (as Fred did) that the media and people like Jesse Jackson would? Or do you really suppose that if Newt came out with a “caucasians for Newt” video they would pay it no mind? If you concede that much, would you not further concede that it is unfair?

Towncrier

February 27th, 2012
1:06 pm

“Well Town I see that your demands for honesty start apparently with your partisan dishonesty and then cries about how everyone else is partisan. And of course, apples to oranges. But continue your silly poutrage.”

What partisan dishonesty? What Obama did honestly bothers me because I really DO believe in MLK’s color blind vision for America. Also, I have admitted conservative failings in my posts. Care to point me to any of your posts in which you do likewise of liberals? Now, do you have anything to contribute beside more deflection?

Bruno

February 27th, 2012
1:12 pm

Now if you want to keep posting ignorance and take broad brush swipes of stupidity at “liberals” then I will be glad to point it out without trying to engage your brush approach.

Translation: I can’t explain how the creation of special laws based on race can ever lead to a color-blind society, but I’ll continue to be a mindless snipe. Got it.

Thulsa Doom

February 27th, 2012
1:15 pm

“On the liberal side, the belief is that the best way to achieve a color-blind society is to encourage an equality of outcomes by structuring the law to favor disadvantaged groups.”

Bruno,

Another way to look at it would be lowering people to the lowest common denominator through diminished expectations. And then incentivizing this low performance through outcome based policies which guarantee slots- a policy that discriminate against others. With the outcome based standard vs performance based standard it looks like Asians are being systematically discriminated against due to their high performance. Ironical isn’t it.

Religious freedom « Petunias

February 27th, 2012
1:21 pm

[...] part of what Kennedy said: I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute, where no Catholic [...]

monty

February 27th, 2012
1:28 pm

Me thinks that Santorum was speaking about being true to convictions. If you believe abortion on demand is wrong, you don’t hide behind politics and play word games. So many candidates try to ride the fence by saying things like “for me personally I believe it’s wrong but I would never let personal beliefs have any bearing on my being President. Really? Don’t believe it for a second, but even if I did, how sad is that where you somehow believe one code and work by another. Anyone think a devout Muslim candidate would not let his personal beliefs influence his decison making process or his political ideology? I don’t. So many political candidates say they are one thing(Christian usually), even if they don’t even believe the very basic precepts of their faith, like is Jesus who he claimed to be, the Son of God-(see Obama). Santorum (I believe) is just saying operate your life by what you say you believe, even in the political square. Quit trying to be politically correct whether that means saying you are Christian( because that wins votes with Christian voters) but also saying at the same time you won’t act like a Christian when you get elected(garners votes from the opposing side). How silly. Why would I vote for a man on principal and then not expect him to act on principal. I’m not a Santorum voter, but what he says is refreshing. Just be who you say you are every day and don’t speak out of both sides of your mouth to gain an office.I like that.

Michael

February 27th, 2012
1:33 pm

Jay, Thank you for the video of Kennedy. It reminded me of his speaking ability on the campaign trail and at press conferences. There was a great fall off, when we went from JFKIt’s painful to see Santorum with his limited ability being one of the three or four finalists to be considered for president.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 27th, 2012
1:36 pm

Nawwwww Bruno…. I’ll agree a snipe. Mindless would be your post. I know much more about affirmative action than you want to acknowledge in your post but I just find that if I have to spoon feed you so much to bring you out of the ignorance, you probably are mindless. Enjoy your childish poutrage.

Nope

February 27th, 2012
1:39 pm

It’s not poor Ricky’s fault… he thinks he is running for Pope.

john ehlers

February 27th, 2012
2:11 pm

Jay,
I wrote this and sent it as a letter to the editor before I found your column. Thanks for picking up on Santorum’s ridiculous statement right away.

Taking exception to what John Kennedy said some fifty years ago, Rick Santorum said that the separation of church and state makes him want to throw up. I never gave Mr. Santorum much credit for being a scholar, but this latest theocon statement of his reveals just how out of touch he is with the reality of what has made the United States of America a positive example to the world. He compounds his statement by saying this is not what the Founding Fathers intended. Rick, this is precisely what they intended. The West began resolving its theological issues five hundred years ago, and the wisdom embodied in the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights in particular, represents the culmination of the struggles that shook and bloodied Europe for centuries. It is this struggle and the ability of this nation to capture the idea of a government that does not depend on religion for its strength that separates us from the backward-looking theocracies that we see in the Middle East today. Take away the separation of church and state and you have Afghanistan run by the Taliban, or Iran run by the ayatollahs.

yuzeyurbrane

February 27th, 2012
2:47 pm

John Ehlers, you are 100% correct but unfortunately your accurate statement of historical facts will fall on the deaf ears of the many posters on this blog who are ignorant and bigoted.

whyhow1

February 27th, 2012
2:53 pm

UK Postcodes List

Retired Vet

February 27th, 2012
2:56 pm

As November grows ever closer ODS (Obama Derengement Syndrome) will be on full display. Pick a topic. Any topic. The universe, cats and dogs, peanut n jelly, green eggs and ham, spam, the rainbow, green cheese and watch ODS slither its way into the topic by those afflicted by it. Most ODS sufferers reside in deep red states.

BigD

February 27th, 2012
2:57 pm

Lets talk about everything ….BUT…..how crappy this president is at managing anything , but…. a golf game or hoops…that is the new Democrat talking point.

GT

February 27th, 2012
3:19 pm

White America as we know it is pretty much dead. Now you take the women out of that minority who are more than half the white race and you have a pitiful minority. The right must be thinking that their turnout is in the 90s while the rest of the country shows up in the 50% at the poll. I seriously cannot figure how they turn this wagon around quick enough after this much damage to get the vote out for the general election. Now instead of getting Catholics to join the Evangalistic following they are sounding so horribe they are running that group off. I never hear these talking heads talk about this, maybe they want to just keep the election alive for adverstising but as far as I can tell the parade has passed and it is time to go home.

DawgDad

February 27th, 2012
3:26 pm

I have a daughter. I wouldn’t want her in a room alone with JFK for five minutes. Santorum, fine. Please put THAT in your pipe before trashing the values of the right.

lovelyliz

February 27th, 2012
3:59 pm

Someone needs to tell Rick SAntorum and his evangelical followers that according to the Pope being pro-life doesn’t end at birth. No death penalty according to the Vatican

Bob

February 27th, 2012
4:30 pm

Bud Wiser: Do you mean to say that because JFK’s family members exercised extremely poor judgment means the ability of JFK as President is suspect? If so that is pure Ad Hominem. I would much rather prefer the economic conditions of 1961-63 than the sorry economic state we have had in the past 4 to 5 years.

Retired Vet

February 27th, 2012
4:47 pm

@BigD

February 27th, 2012
2:57 pm

Yes, a glaring example of an ODS sufferer, the topic is about Santorum disparraging Kennedy.

Tom(Independent-Viet Vet)

February 27th, 2012
4:48 pm

GOP rivals quiet on foreclosure issue, just saw those headlines. Ok, liberal favored media, tell me what Barrack Obama is doing about same topic, nothing under his watch is working, oh yes, I forgot, it’s all Bush’s fault!!!

Retired Vet

February 27th, 2012
4:49 pm

I will give ODS suffers some credit. Even if they are afflicted with ODS they do have enough control of their mental faculties to not defend Mr. Santorum.

Billybob

February 27th, 2012
5:10 pm

obama equating gov’t redistribution/socialism with ‘what jesus would do’ makes me want to throw up and yet i have not heard you come out against his comments….jesus would want people to help each other, but not at the point of an authoritarian gov’t taking and forcing one person to help another that the ‘gov’t’ deems deserves it…….this highlights an enormous fundamental difference b/t leftists’ libs and conservatives……let the media keep talking/bringing up social issues……how about this one jaylib…….conservatives fight for life for all and hussein votes in Illinois senate votes in favor of abortion and then infanticide….. which means if the baby wasn’t killed during the abortion you need to bring in another doctor to finish the killing of that baby……on both of these social issues i think the overwhelming majority of the public is with my and the conservative view……….what say you jaylib?

marc

February 27th, 2012
5:11 pm

Question: who’s running Rick’s campaign?…answer: Rick is..and there lies the problem….he’s on a mission from God..and that scares independents and moderate GOP voters..(who he needs)….that he can’t check his ego and emotions and be pragmatic enough to win a nomination…shows a
shallow perspective more suited to mid level management……

Travis McGee

February 27th, 2012
5:22 pm

Rick Santorum is dangerous to the republic.

Billybob

February 27th, 2012
5:28 pm

and barrack hussein obama is destroying our republic

Republicans Had 8 Years Of INSANITY and Now They ALL Have Gone MAD

February 27th, 2012
5:40 pm

@marc

February 27th, 2012
5:11 pm
Question: who’s running Rick’s campaign?…answer: Rick is..and there lies the problem….he’s on a mission from God..and that scares independents and moderate GOP voters..(who he needs)….that he can’t check his ego and emotions and be pragmatic enough to win a nomination…shows a
shallow perspective more suited to mid level management……
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“He’s on a MISSION FROM GOD?”

He’s on a mission from the DEMONS that have possessed his HUNGER for POWER.

The bible says:

1 Peter 5:8

Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

Ephesians 6:11-12

Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.

Rick Santorum is POSSESSED BY SATAN and he needs an exorcism.

Republicans Had 8 Years Of INSANITY and Now They ALL Have Gone MAD

February 27th, 2012
5:43 pm

@Billybob

February 27th, 2012
5:28 pm
and barrack hussein obama is destroying our republic
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You think Obama is destroying our republic?

Don’t judge Obama against God but against his alternative.

Republicans Had 8 Years Of INSANITY and Now They ALL Have Gone MAD

February 27th, 2012
5:48 pm

@Billybob

February 27th, 2012
5:10 pm
obama equating gov’t redistribution/socialism with ‘what jesus would do’ makes me want to throw up and yet i have not heard you come out against his comments….jesus would want people to help each other, but not at the point of an authoritarian gov’t taking and forcing one person to help another that the ‘gov’t’ deems deserves it…….this highlights an enormous fundamental difference b/t leftists’ libs and conservatives……let the media keep talking/bringing up social issues……how about this one jaylib…….conservatives fight for life for all and hussein votes in Illinois senate votes in favor of abortion and then infanticide….. which means if the baby wasn’t killed during the abortion you need to bring in another doctor to finish the killing of that baby……on both of these social issues i think the overwhelming majority of the public is with my and the conservative view……….what say you jaylib?
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TAKE your RELIGION OUT OF MY GOVERNMENT.

The difference between Republicans and Democrats is Republicans want to save the UNBORN and let the LIVING die.

Mama Says

February 27th, 2012
6:03 pm

It is absolutely unbelievable how you libs think you can or should separate core religious beliefs for the sake of political office in this country.

Now Santorum is the devil. Really ? Seriously ?

The real question, keeping JFKs speech in mind is HOW.

How does a true believer of any faith separate his/hers foundation of spiritual beliefs from what they believe is right ?

I don’t believe it’s possible.

If you are religious, as many presidents claim (ed) to be then you seek the word of God or Godly direction in your decision process, to do otherwise makes you much less than a devote follower by nature.

My difficulty as a conservative is understanding how any democrat can insist they are religious and then pursue or support policies that are directly opposite of the word. To me that is a very confused person.

To be truly religious, I believe requires, a person to be devoted to God, spouse and then country — in that order. Factually speaking I believe a true believer would follow the word of Christ when he said “give unto Ceasar, what is Ceasars”

Although I don’t really like it, because I am a human and wish to stand up for my religion, a true Christian would not involve themselves in the how would Jesus govern argument but rather ceed to the president what is the presidents and focus on individual righteousness. If a person wishes to use their compass to decide who to vote for, like I will, then that’s ok. But to use it as a axe handle with which to batter someone is not the intent of the very religion they support.

JFK had it right and while I understand him and what he is saying, Santorum has it wrong.

I would however look at what he pushed when he was a senator, if you did you may see he was much less imposing than democrats would have us believe.

LUCIFER

February 27th, 2012
6:17 pm

Santorum’s an idiot.

Republicans Had 8 Years Of INSANITY and Now They ALL Have Gone MAD

February 27th, 2012
6:18 pm

Now I know why Santorum is so ANGRY.

Has anyone seen his wife?

Republicans Had 8 Years Of INSANITY and Now They ALL Have Gone MAD

February 27th, 2012
6:23 pm

@Mama Says

February 27th, 2012
6:03 pm
It is absolutely unbelievable how you libs think you can or should separate core religious beliefs for the sake of political office in this country.

Now Santorum is the devil. Really ? Seriously ?

The real question, keeping JFKs speech in mind is HOW.

How does a true believer of any faith separate his/hers foundation of spiritual beliefs from what they believe is right ?

I don’t believe it’s possible.
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YOU cannot re-write the constitution (separation of church and state).

It is what it is.

This is going to be the very thing that KILLS Satorum’s candidacy.

He will never be the NOMINEE.

I will be back to say I TOLD YOU SO.

Remember my Blog Name (Republicans Had 8 Years Of INSANITY and Now They ALL Have Gone MAD). ;)

LUCIFER

February 27th, 2012
6:25 pm

Dear Mama Says:

If you are religious, as many presidents claim (ed) to be then you seek the word of God or Godly direction in your decision process, to do otherwise makes you much less than a devote follower by nature.

I may disagree with you in your beliefs that contain manmade inventions such as Christian mythlogy and other fabrications that developed religious dogma, but as an American I will fight for your right for your free will to believe in anything you wish — even UFOs. However, do not contaminate the Oval Office is pitiful superstitions from 2,000 years ago. The presidency needs to find the answers in empirical evidence, truth and reason. It can’t allow itself to be directed or swayed by angles or demons.

Mama Says

February 27th, 2012
6:37 pm

Republicans had 8 years blah blah blah, ( how can I argue with u when your name is that long),

Here again is the typical liberal problem.

The separation says nothing about personal religious beliefs qualifying a candidate. It does not call for non believers to hold office, it calls for the prevention of this government from imposing an official religion.

U guys are hard pressed to make your arguments and then go out and follow the law when the law, which is made by the government, is based entirely on the 10 commandments.

You are also hard pressed to explain how you have any basis of core belief or the determination between right and wrong without religion effecting your belief system at some point in your life.

Had u not been taught, at some point, the difference between right and wrong you would be savages roaming the countryside, yet somewhere somwhow you learned not to steal, not to rape, not to have affairs and not murder, all religious teachings.

As for you Lucifer,

You may wish to write Obama your thoughts, he refers to God in his speeches.more than any other president in modern times and he is a democrat. Do you fear him ?

Republicans Had 8 Years Of INSANITY and Now They ALL Have Gone MAD

February 27th, 2012
6:52 pm

@Mama Says

February 27th, 2012
6:37 pm
Republicans had 8 years blah blah blah, ( how can I argue with u when your name is that long),

Here again is the typical liberal problem.
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Republicans had 8 years blah blah blah?

Mama Says? Do you have a problem with my blog name?

Yours would not make me take notice.

Why do you think we have to ARGUE?

Why am I the TYPICAL Liberal?

Why are you NOT the TYPICAL Republican that want to argue your point?

Republicans Had 8 Years Of INSANITY and Now They ALL Have Gone MAD

February 27th, 2012
6:54 pm

@Mama Says

February 27th, 2012
6:37 pm

As for you Lucifer,

You may wish to write Obama your thoughts, he refers to God in his speeches.more than any other president in modern times and he is a democrat. Do you fear him ?
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Obama does not try to push his religious views DOWN OUR THROAT.

LUCIFER

February 27th, 2012
6:59 pm

Mama Says: Obama is forced into reminding god-fearing people that he is “Christian,” not Muslim — a blatant falsehood spread by Donald Trump and many other Goofy Odd People (GOP). Bottom line – Obama is a smart guy. He plays the game when he must. But, underneath the game playing, he will toss off the commandment of “Thou Shalt Not Kill.” Just ask bin Laden and his ilk of merrymakers who have been rewarded their 76 Virgins by way of Obama’s craftiness, patience and courage, obviously not reeking of religious rules of any kind. Santorum, on the other hand, is stuck in the Elmer Gantry mode, when a charlatan could wear a convincing disguise as an authentic “man of the cloth” while fleecing the flock of their hard earned cash. Mama, you need to read Tom Paine’s book “Age of Reason.” That might open you mind to a new set of values that aren’t set in the Middle East 2,000 years ago. Obviously, such claptrap and rubbish.

Republicans Had 8 Years Of INSANITY and Now They ALL Have Gone MAD

February 27th, 2012
7:06 pm

@@Mama Says

February 27th, 2012
6:37 pm

As for you Lucifer,

You may wish to write Obama your thoughts, he refers to God in his speeches.more than any other president in modern times and he is a democrat. Do you fear him ?
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With a name like Mama Says you should know better.

That is not true that Obama refers to God in his speeches.more than any other president in modern times.

THAT IS EITHER AN OUTRIGHT LIE OR YOU ARE EXAGGERATING.

Which is it?

Jimmy Carter should be a fairly obvious choice, as should Woodrow Wilson who was the son of a Presbyterian minister. James Garfield was actually an ordained minister, Benjamin Harrison was a Presbyterian Elder and taught Sunday school and McKinley was a devout Methodist.

Bill Clinton was religious. Bill Clinton could quote Scripture with the best of them. Bill Clinton could preach with the best of them. He gave some very powerful speeches, where he sounded Catholic; at African-American churches, where he sounded AME or Baptist. Now, these all overlap. It wasn’t contradictory. And he quoted Scripture at least as much, if not more than George W. Bush does.

LUCIFER

February 27th, 2012
7:20 pm

I am relieved Santorum is at least candid. For now we can see in plain view the religious fanaticism that has destroyed one of the major parties in this country, a destruction that is perilous for any workable politics. It must be defeated – and not by electing a plastic liar and panderer like Romney. But by nominating Santorum and defeating him by such a margin that this theo-political Frankenstein, which threatens both genuine faith and civil politics, is dispatched once and for all.

Bernie

February 27th, 2012
9:27 pm

Mullah Rick should be running to be the POPE instead of President.

robo

February 27th, 2012
11:49 pm

“Ask not what your country can do for you…” to “That makes me throw up.” Really, America, Really? Someone like Neal Boortz endlessly rants in his typical delusion world that anyone who voted for Obama does not have a brain and is a parasite, but it’s OK to vote for this man who called the president a snob for aiming to send more kids to college? It’s OK to vote for this guy who said that contraception goes against the “natural order of things?” Are there Santorum supporters out there who can reasonably defend this guy? Obama is dangerous, but Santorum is OK? Really?

Z

February 28th, 2012
12:41 am

Everyday, Santorum shows us why the people of Pennsylvania got rid of this grotesque man. His insanity grows larger everyday. I believe he is a Manic..prone to madness. That or he is on something. He was on one of those Sunday talk shows and he was talking a mile a minute..anyone notice.

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