3:41 pm February 24, 2012, by Jay
According to John Lennon, his bandmate Paul McCartney wrote this song “back in the Cavern days” in Liverpool, which would put McCartney at about 20 years of age.
Today, the 69-year-old McCartney is looking at 64 from the opposite end of the time scale, peering back at it instead of forward to it. When he performs it today, an already wistful little ditty no doubt takes on an even more sepia tone.
But why, you may ask, did I choose to post this now? Well, 33 years ago today, my bride and I said our “I do”s, and the passage of time does make you think a little differently about such things.
Happy Anniversary, Babe.
“Will you still need me, will you still feed me,
When I’m sixty-four?”
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DebbieDoRight
February 25th, 2012
11:15 pm
All I would say is get things straight on the front end, whatever you do. Otherwise he’s going to feel betrayed.
It’s not like he’s been faithful the whole time we’ve been together. I had caught him with some chick when he was in California a few years ago. We worked it out, but i’ve always kept that in the back of my mind; and i’ve always wondered if it’s happened again and i just don’t know about it.
I don’t know. I’m flustered and confused. Since his sister and I were best friends before I ever even met him, I’m afraid that if we broke up I’ll loose not only my best friend but my neice, and my whole extended family. I love my step kids and I don’t wanna loose them.
It’s complicated.
DebbieDoRight
February 25th, 2012
11:26 pm
well thanks for the advice ya’ll. have a great night.
Bruno
February 25th, 2012
11:34 pm
We worked it out, but i’ve always kept that in the back of my mind; and i’ve always wondered if it’s happened again and i just don’t know about it
I’m no Dr. Phil, but personally I wouldn’t stay with someone if I didn’t trust them. Without trust, you got nothing. Best of luck.
Paddy O
February 26th, 2012
2:21 am
jm – regarding the BEatles – they have not recorded any new music in 40+ years, yet here is a fun song. I consider them great. I would say your perception is skewed.
Oscar
February 26th, 2012
3:04 am
The Beatles were great. Their music still is.
Normal
February 26th, 2012
7:45 am
jm just likes being the f@rt in the room…and he has a secret crush on President Obama, too…
stands for decibels
February 26th, 2012
8:14 am
mornin’.
skimming the comments, I see Thulsa called Luckovich a “kook.”
Think I’ll have about as much luck with asking him to identify which of ML’s sentiments are outside the American public-at-large’s sentiments as I did with our “USMC” after he said this about Jay?
(probably, which is why I’ll just snicker quietly over our right wingers’ insulated, teensy little echo chamber instead.)
Brosephus
February 26th, 2012
8:16 am
dB
I get a good snicker at the one’s who repeatedly come here and bash this “liberal rag”. If the AJC is so liberal, why hasn’t the free market created a sustainable and profitable conservative newspaper in Georgia? One would think that a “Red” state would have a complimentary reliable conservative news source.
TaxPayer
February 26th, 2012
8:58 am
Georgia cons prefer FOX on AM radio 100 to 1 over reading. If Rush introduced his rant in printed form, he’d lose his audience.
Soothsayer
February 26th, 2012
9:06 am
Good morning, everyone! I hope everyone is having a wonderful weekend.
If you get bored, check out this website. You can see everyone who got arrested in Gwinnett County yesterday. Left-click on each photo to see what they’re charged with.
It’s amazing how many people get arrested for marijuana possession, violation of probation, and DUI.
Doggone/Ga
February 26th, 2012
9:07 am
“he’d lose his audience.”
He’d also have a LOT harder time claiming he didn’t say what “they” said he said.
Jam Man
February 26th, 2012
9:11 am
As it is an opinion blog, I merely chuckled when jm made that odd comment about the Beatles. I suspect he was not a sentient being until they had already disbanded. Simply put, they changed the world, and are in a class of their own.
Debbie, for you…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8hAvVyCfzg
Normal
February 26th, 2012
9:14 am
My problem is….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuOec305SQA
Doggone/Ga
February 26th, 2012
9:16 am
“Simply put, they changed the world, and are in a class of their own.”
Certainly they are. That’s what I told my sister when she said they weren’t really very good. It’s not fair to compare them to bands that came after them, because those bands would probably not even have existed is the Beatles had not come first.
Mighty Righty
February 26th, 2012
9:46 am
Georgia cons prefer FOX on AM radio 100 to 1 over reading. If Rush introduced his rant in printed form, he’d lose his audience.
Rush has a news letter which has a higher circulation than any publication other than U.S.A. Today. The left on the other hand gets their news via boom boxes.
Doggone/Ga
February 26th, 2012
9:49 am
“Rush has a news letter ”
How much of it does HE write?
Jam Man
February 26th, 2012
9:49 am
Doggone, some people, it seems believe in measuring musical greatness in some sort of empirical or technical way. As if the guitar player who can’t play 64th notes or the piano player who can’t span 13 keys with one hand or the vocalist who doesn’t have a five octave range, that that somehow matters. It does not.
From Dar es Salaam to Kyoto to Rio de Janeiro to Moscow to Mexico City to Berlin to San Francisco, that band ruled the universe for enough time and enough consecutive songs and albums, that NO ONE will ever have the same impact as them. Well, maybe in another two hundred years, who knows?
And when I saw Paul McCartney a few years ago at Piedmont Park it was, for me, a spiritual, magical, once in a lifetime thing. I saw grown men and women cry when he played Please, Please Me. Tell me, who else has that kind of power?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MWVo1fjRsQ
carlosgvv
February 26th, 2012
9:51 am
Our people accidently burned some Korans and the Afghans, in retalitation, have killed four of our soldiers. There is no indication they will stop anytime soon, massing in the streets and yelling “death to America”. On a talk show this morning, I say Gingrich and Romney trying to get as much politicial mileage out of this as possible. Wow!! Are these swell fellows or what????
Jm
February 26th, 2012
9:53 am
Josef 7:34 how?
New budget, new legislation.
Doggone/Ga
February 26th, 2012
9:55 am
“Doggone, some people, it seems believe in measuring musical greatness in some sort of empirical or technical way”
Sure, there are some like that…but a think a lot of them are more like my sister. They are comparing the Beatles to the musicians that came after them, when you can only assess their true impact by comparing them to what came before.
All great musicians take what exists at their time and make it better, before they can make it different. That is what the Beatles did.
I wasn’t a big fan after their first few albums, in particular I wasn’t much of a fan after Sargeant Peppers…but I heard them often enough to hear their influence in many, many bands that came after them.
Jm
February 26th, 2012
10:00 am
Fill your car up lately?
Obama one termer
Brosephus
February 26th, 2012
10:11 am
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/super-pacs-2012/
Here’s an interesting graphic of large donors to GOP affiliated SuperPAC’s. Another interesting thing about the 2012 campaign is that 5 people accounted for 25% of the money raised in January, to the tune of $19 million. Hopefully, this time period won’t be remembered as the time we sold our government to the highest bidder, although I think we’ve already crossed that bridge.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/super-pac-donors-revealed-who-are-the-power-players-in-the-gop-primary/2012/02/21/gIQAPU3BSR_story.html
Soothsayer
February 26th, 2012
10:11 am
Some imams, or mosque preachers, delivered fiery sermons that helped drive the protests, turning the week’s events into a broader complaint about the Western entanglement in Afghanistan.
“Burning the Koran at Bagram is an unforgivable crime and sin,” Inayatullah Baleegh thundered from the pulpit of a Kabul mosque Friday, the main prayer day of the Islamic week. “But the presence of infidels in a Muslim country is an even bigger sin.”
The Taliban, too, sought to portray a society that had fallen in thrall to the West.
“Under the slogan of ‘freedom,’ new doors of corruption are being flung open every day,” the movement said in a midweek statement, as the protests were gathering force. “Blind imitation of the Western infidels is being encouraged in our cities and villages; the veil of modesty and dignity is being lifted from our women under the slogan of ‘women’s rights.’ … All these things are brought to us by the accursed Western invasion, which is forcing itself upon us in the name of democracy.”
Looks like we really stepped in it this time.
By the way, the caught the guy who was responsible for the whole thing!
Jm
February 26th, 2012
10:12 am
“will you still feed me,
When I’m sixty-four?”
Sexist male chauvinist! Seriously
Jm
February 26th, 2012
10:15 am
So a few korans are burned and its ok to kill people
Backwards people
Our military should be firing back instead of being asked to stand down by Obama
Brosephus
February 26th, 2012
10:16 am
Rush has a news letter which has a higher circulation than any publication other than U.S.A. Today. The left on the other hand gets their news via boom boxes.
Seems like some enterprising conservative could piggyback on his circulation and start their own conservative newspaper instead of bellyaching about how all the existing ones are so liberal. That is, unless it’s just that conservatives like to complain about things instead of actually doing things.
Jam Man
February 26th, 2012
10:18 am
carlos, to my knowledge, virtually none of these people that the neo-cons have “liberated” (HA!) give a flying ___ about the USA. For example, was there ever a time in Iraq when a large majority of the local people did not want us out of there? Ditto, Afghanistan.
And of course, it works in reverse. It is exceptionally hard to believe that these supposed Christian Republicans, who don’t even give a tinker’s damn about their fellow Americans, are remotely concerned about Muslims in these other countries.
They just love the bloodshed. From afar.
And to Righty’s point, that sickening characteristic sells very, very well to the Limbaugh/Fox/corporate media stooges.
And they can all go to hell, where they belong.
Jm
February 26th, 2012
10:22 am
Bro
The people who pay all the taxes to support the government should have more say.
Unless you want to go to a real flat tax. Then we would be all equally supporting the government and you’d have a better argument then.
Jm
February 26th, 2012
10:24 am
“unless it’s just that conservatives like to complain about things instead of actually doing things.”
Bro you do plenty of your own complaining
Jm
February 26th, 2012
10:27 am
Meh, I didn’t say the Beatles didn’t influence other bands. But that’s not the metric for a great musician or musicians.
200 years from now will anyone listen to the Beatles? Or even 50 years. Very very few.
Soothsayer
February 26th, 2012
10:29 am
Here’s a good one!
Brosephus
February 26th, 2012
10:30 am
The people who pay all the taxes to support the government should have more say.
One person, one vote! Contrary to popular conservative rhetoric, money /= speech. Throwing loads of money into politics only strengthens the corruption we already have. You can continue to cheer for the corruption and eventual collapse of our country, but I won’t.
Bro you do plenty of your own complaining
If you take my expressing opinions as complaining, then you read me wrong. I’m not the one coming here EVERY DAY complaining about liberal this, liberal that, Obama this, Obama that. If I wanted to complain about stuff like that, I would definitely not do it on a regular basis on a left leaning blog for a paper that I consider a liberal rag. Pointing out the idiocy of arguments here is not complaining. I only seek to point out the stupidity amongst us.
carlosgvv
February 26th, 2012
10:35 am
jm – 10:15
Obama should tell the Afghans we won’t sacrifice another single soldier and get our military out NOW. We have done our best to try to help them and this is the thanks we get. Why won’t any of our elected officials stand up and be counted on this?
Midori
February 26th, 2012
10:37 am
. Pointing out the idiocy of arguments here is not complaining. I only seek to point out the stupidity amongst us.
Bro — I could kiss you for that
Jm
February 26th, 2012
10:38 am
Bro 10:30
The supreme court disagrees. Take it up with them
Yes one person one vote, but spending your money as you see fit to promote your views is a foundation of our democracy.
ByteMe
February 26th, 2012
10:39 am
Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum says President Barack Obama’s apology for the burning of Qurans in Afghanistan was a mistake that demonstrates the president’s “weakness.”
Santorum says that rather than saying he was sorry, Obama should have only acknowledged it was wrong.
So, two questions come to mind, Senator:
If you just acknowledge you’re wrong, but don’t say you’re sorry after burning something your wife loves, how many nights do you have to sleep on the couch?
If Marines accidentally burned a whole lot of Holy Bibles while vacationing in Vatican City and it starts a riot, do you — as President — apologize or just say “our bad!”?
Jm
February 26th, 2012
10:39 am
Carlosgvv
Obama is pretty much doing that. Troops out next year. You can only move people and equipment so fast if you want to do it in a perfectly sensible fashion.
Soothsayer
February 26th, 2012
10:41 am
As it turns out, someone actually agrees with Little Rickie Sanitarium!
Brosephus
February 26th, 2012
10:42 am
Midori
I’m kind of cranky today. I’m in one of those no bullsh*t moods. I’ll probably be my kind and gentle self tommorow or something.
Yes one person one vote, but spending your money as you see fit to promote your views is a foundation of our democracy.
LMAO!!!! Only if we were a plutocracy, which it appears you’re cheering for. The governement is supposed to be representative of the people and work for the people, ALL PEOPLE. It is not some kind of play toy that the wealthy can buy and own to use for their personal benefit.
Midori
February 26th, 2012
10:44 am
Bro -
I like it when you’re cranky.
you kinda have that Fred thing going
Jm
February 26th, 2012
10:46 am
Bro
You have a poor knowledge of history
When this country was founded it was only white male land owners. I’m not advocating turning back the clock. But I think those who pay the bills should (and do) have the right to express their opinion with their money as they see fit.
carlosgvv
February 26th, 2012
10:57 am
Brosephus – 10:42
That’s what it’s suppose to be. Unfortunately, The Republicans have largely succeeded in turning it into a Govt. of the wealthy, by the wealthy and for the wealthy. They have made no effort to hide this. So, it’s puzzling why they still have so many supporters.
Jam Man
February 26th, 2012
11:02 am
Very very few.
OF COURSE, they will. In the year 2062 some kid will hear Something for the first time and flip out.
That you never did, because you are way too young to even know what the hell happened back then doesn’t change that.
Look no farther than a recent FNM here. We spent virtually the entire evening playing nothing but Beatles songs.
Go listen to your Lady Gaga. Or whatever it is that fits your “metric”. LOL
Brosephus
February 26th, 2012
11:02 am
jm
If you’re equating people putting money into our political system as a means of speak, yeah, you’re advocating turning back the clock. You’re basically stating that wealthy landowners should be the main ones dictating our political dealings. By trying to tie it to “those who pay the bills”, you’re basically giving the finger to millions of working Americans who pay all kinds of taxes but don’t meet your personal requirement because they don’t pay federal income taxes. You can try to sugarcoat it all you want to, but you’re still trying to sell a bullsh*t sandwich as Kobe steak. I’m not buying it.
Money does not equate speech regardless to how you try to frame it. Contrary to your, and popular conservative, rhetoric, most everybody has skin in the game in some form or fashion. You pay taxes when you buy stuff, and you pay taxes when you get your paycheck. Federal income taxes are not the only way our government is funded. Until you realize that, your logic will continue to be faulty.
Don't Forget
February 26th, 2012
11:13 am
jm,
you’re naive if you think that large donations don’t “buy” policy decisions. that’s not democracy.
Doggone/Ga
February 26th, 2012
11:16 am
“We have done our best to try to help them and this is the thanks we get”
Talk about rewriting history. Did they ask us to come “help” them? We INVADED them against their will. I said it then, and I will always say it: we should have gone in, got Bin Laden and got out. Everyday we are there past the first 6 months is nothing but a waste.
Fred ™
February 26th, 2012
11:17 am
Jm
February 25th, 2012
4:59 pm
“I can name 3 female drivers better than Danica………….”
Tee them up genius.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Not a problem asshat. Jennifer Jo Cobb, Johanna Long, and Alli Owens pop into mind without a second thought.
Doggone/Ga
February 26th, 2012
11:18 am
“It is not some kind of play toy that the wealthy can buy and own to use for their personal benefit.”
Well…it certainly appears that it IS that…but that’s not what it was meant to be.
Brosephus
February 26th, 2012
11:19 am
Fred
Who ya got today?? My yahoo fantasy team reeks of Japanese horsepower.
Brosephus
February 26th, 2012
11:20 am
Doggone
Recon 0311 2533
February 26th, 2012
11:22 am
The last survey I saw had the percentage of those paying zero federal income tax at 49.5% and that survey was taken about 18 months ago. If that’s the case, it’s a reasonable assumption that by now the percentage is over 50%. Also from recent reports one in five people are getting financial assistance from the federal government. The left talks about unfair taxation and that is indeed correct, however, the lack of fairness is the ever increasing number of people living in the U.S. who depend on the federal government for their living, while contributing less and less financially. This is an unsustainable track that we’re running on and we need to get people back on the tax paying role not off of it. We need to get everyone who earns income at every level paying federal income tax. I think that a flat tax that can be adjusted for the various income brackets could be a solution.
Don't Forget
February 26th, 2012
11:27 am
Recon 0311 2533
February 26th, 2012
11:22 am
The last survey I saw had the percentage of those paying zero federal income tax at 49.5% and that survey was taken about 18 months ago.
The part they ALWAYS leave out is how much money these people are earning. Don’t you think that’s a more reasonable metric as to who should pay taxes?
Brosephus
February 26th, 2012
11:29 am
Recon
I’ll ask you the same question I’ve asked everyone else about that 49.5% group. Are you pointing that group out because it shows the need for tax reform due to the number of people with 6 figure incomes that don’t pay taxes, or are you pointing out to that group to say that the poor need to pay?
http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/14/pf/taxes/who_pays_income_taxes/index.htm
For tax year 2010, roughly 45% of households, or about 69 million, will end up owing nothing in federal income tax, according to estimates by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center. Some in that group will even end up getting paid money from the federal government.
[...]
It’s true that the vast majority of the 69 million households make less than $50,000 — with very heavy representation among households making less than $30,000.
But nearly 5 million households in the group make somewhere between $50,000 and more than $1 million. The vast majority of that group — 4.3 million — make between $50,000 and $100,000. Another 485,000 make between $100,000 and $500,000. And the remaining 18,000 make $500,000 or more
Very high-income households can fall into the non-payer group if they get their income from tax-exempt bonds or overseas sources for which they get foreign tax credits, according to Roberton Williams, a senior fellow at the Tax Policy Center.
Thomas
February 26th, 2012
11:34 am
The part they ALWAYS leave out is how much money these people are earning
Don’t forget- I applaud your (in the cloud of course) choice of the word “earning”
Recon 0311 2533
February 26th, 2012
11:34 am
Don’t you think that’s a more reasonable metric as to who should pay taxes?
Don’t Forget, I think everyone earning income needs to share in paying tax. As a country we’re on thin ice economically when we depend on only a small percentage of the population contributing to the nations support.
Fred ™
February 26th, 2012
11:34 am
Bro; You in a league? Got room for another lol? I’m not doing one this year.
It’s hard to pick against little shrub, but it’s also hard to pick against Jeff Gordon on a restrictor plate track given he is the leading active driver (and second all time) with 12 wins, (6 at each Daytona and Talladega). His was quick in the shoot out but made a tactical error in trying to get around Busch. He was definitely faster. Can’t discount Toni Stewart or Lil Boy Junior either. Kevin Harvick is just flat out awesome on those tracks. I’ve seen him do some amazing things at ‘Dega.
With this new set up, it’s really more of a crap shoot than usual. One little tap in the left rear and around you go. It’s a tough call. For the “under dog” i’d like the see trevor Bayne and Woods Brothers do it again, except they can’t afford to lose the car for a year, so maybe I should root for them for second lol. Michael McDowell is a really nice kid, well I guess he’s not a kid anymore, and I would never mind seeing him win or do well. But old habits (and loyalties) die hard so I’m gonna have to cheer for old washed up Jeff Gordon. Maybe he’ll regain some fire in his belly and drive it like he stole it again. It almost looked like he was trying to do that last week……..
Don't Forget
February 26th, 2012
11:39 am
Recon, you miss the real point.
A nation that has 50% of it’s people making wages so low that they cannot afford to pay taxes is on very thin ice. I’m not sure why you can’t relate to the real financial difficulties of the lower middle class and instead focus on the frustrations of those who have no real financial worries.
Recon 0311 2533
February 26th, 2012
11:44 am
Brosephus, upper income tax avoidance through various loop holes is another subject. What I was saying is that continuing to remove people from the tax paying role and creating a condition where more and more people then become dependent on the federal government is unsustainable. Sooner or later we will be diminishing the segment that that the government depends on for tax revenue out of existence. Regardless of how upper income individuals manipulate tax code loop holes ten percent of the population pays the greatest percentage of federal income tax.
carlosgvv
February 26th, 2012
11:49 am
Doggone/GA – 11:16
Actually, quite a lot of them were happy, at the time, to see us take out the Taliban. 10 years later, The US, The Afgan Govt. and The Taliban are in “negotations”. Of course you know negotating with the Taliban is like dealing with Hitler. I just can’t help but wonder what the families of all of our dead and wounded soldiers must think about this? If they all decided to move to Canada tommorrow, I wouldn’t blame them.
Doggone/Ga
February 26th, 2012
11:50 am
“Regardless of how upper income individuals manipulate tax code loop holes ten percent of the population pays the greatest percentage of federal income tax.”
And the best answer to that is to RAISE UP those so low on the economic scale that they owe nothing in FIT. The answer is NOT to take even more from them and make them even POORER.
Recon 0311 2533
February 26th, 2012
11:51 am
Don’t Forget, I would question the validity that everyone who earns moderate to low income can’t afford to pay something in federal income tax. But lets say you’re right, what would be your solution?
Doggone/Ga
February 26th, 2012
11:53 am
“Actually, quite a lot of them were happy, at the time, to see us take out the Taliban.”
And how often, BEFORE we invaded, did they seek such an invasion? I don’t feel any need to apologize for thinking that freedom cannot be IMPOSED on another people. It must be sought by those people FIRST.
paulo977
February 26th, 2012
11:53 am
josef :Yes, he’s CIC…so I should, as some here would like to do, “blame” him for burning the Koran and bringing on the attacks on US personnel in the riots now taking their toll?
_____________________________________________
Gee ,did he give the GO AHEAD to burn the Koran?
Recon 0311 2533
February 26th, 2012
11:53 am
“The answer is NOT to take even more from them and make them even POORER.”
I’ll ask the same question, what’s the solution?
Brosephus
February 26th, 2012
11:55 am
Recon
Ok, gotcha!!
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Fred
I’m still flipping between Shrub and Smoke myself. I’ve been a longtime Stewart fan, even when he was in open wheel. I’ve also got loads of JGR stuff around the house, and I’ve been a fan since Dale Jarrett drove for Joe. I put Trevor on my team this week too, but like you, I don’t think they can risk losing that car for a year.
Although not an underdog, I’m thinking Mark Martin as a sleeper. Waltrip’s team seems like they’re getting closer and closer to being real contenders. Put him in the right place at the right time, and he’s good to get his first win in the 500. I’ll have my #18 coffee mug sittin’ beside me while I’m watching the race though.
Fred ™
February 26th, 2012
11:56 am
Also from recent reports one in five people are getting financial assistance from the federal government. The left talks about unfair taxation and that is indeed correct, however, the lack of fairness is the ever increasing number of people living in the U.S. who depend on the federal government for their living, while contributing less and less financially. This is an unsustainable track that we’re running on and we need to get people back on the tax paying role not off of it.
While maybe factually correct, that is intellectually disingenuous. There is a HUGE difference between getting some assistance from the gov’t and “depending on the federal government for a living.” Soldier “depend on the federal Gov’t for a living” wouldn’t you agree? So they should be counted in your stat’s.
See how easy it is to say something that is factual but not really true in context? But a case in point. I had a friend in the Army. He was a Sergeant with over 10 years in the Army. He had two small children. HE received “gov’t assistance” in the way you mean. He got the great Gov’t cheese, and other food. Was he a dead beat? There he was serving his Country and yet didn’t make enough money doing so to feed 2 SMALL children. And no, he wasn’t wasting his cash on stupid stuff. There just weren’t none.
As to getting people on the tax rolls? How in the hell are ypou going to do that when the Uber rich are sending all their jobs over to freaking China? And don’t give me that crap about “it’s cheaper over there.” Of COURSE it is. Slave labor and the only “restrictions” are the bribes one pays to the local Gov’t authority.
How about some HUGE tariffs on imports (to equal waht other countries do to us) and taxation of money made over seas? By God THAT would have some people either moving some jobs back here or moving their asses out. But wait, they won;t move out. DESPITE the right wings lies, we ARE the best place to live and make money. Case it point? they are still here. Why the hell did Rupert Murdoch and George Soro’s relocate here? Because we suck so bad and our taxes are so “terrible?” I don’t think so.
My accountant just finished with our taxes (we already have our return). By the time he did his magic we ended up paying just a little under 10% in taxes of our overall income. hell, even if you go by the “adjusted net” income we barely paid 15%. Our accountant charges 300 bucks to do my corporate and personal returns. That’s pretty cheap. He doesn’t even cut things to the bone. He figures it better to leave cash in there than go through the hassle of being audited. How much more could he cut if I said, “Cut it to the bone.” At $300 he’s not even that expensive. He’s old. I don’t think he keeps up with all the changes. Imagine if I had the type of accountant that the really rich folks use. How little would i be paying then?
One thing i KNOW he’s never mentioned is that private school “donation” thing I’ll link below. Using that, we could probably bring our “tax burden” down to almost 0%. And we are in the top 3 if not 2%, (top 1% is 347,000 and we aren’t there yet). It just isn’t right Del.
I don’t like to pay taxes more than anyone else, but right is right. If I can make my LEGAL tax bill that low with minimal effort then how low could I make it with more effort? Something has to give. We can’t just cut spending, we HAVE to raise taxes as well. And no, people who are already just barely scraping by can’t pay more. They may not pay “income tax” but they are being raped by other taxes. Get off that “income tax” lie.
Doggone/Ga
February 26th, 2012
12:00 pm
“I’ll ask the same question, what’s the solution?”
Unionization of more of the workers. Give them some say in their compensation, instead of leaving them to the “tender” mercies of their employers.
That should raise some hackles.
Fred ™
February 26th, 2012
12:01 pm
Recon 0311 2533
February 26th, 2012
11:34 am
Don’t Forget, I think everyone earning income needs to share in paying tax. As a country we’re on thin ice economically when we depend on only a small percentage of the population contributing to the nations support.
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That’s not true and you are too smart to believe it is. Look at all the different and separate taxes we pay every day that have nothing to do with “income tax.”
Your heart isn’t in your “argument” anymore. You know it’s disingenuous at best. I think the gravity of our national situation is sinking in to you FINALLY and you are starting to acknowledge that everything isn’t exactly like Neal and Rush portray it. They are after all only looking out for their own investments, paychecks, and personal power circles. They care nothing about the rest of us.
Old Timer
February 26th, 2012
12:02 pm
. . . but it’s also hard to pick against Jeff Gordon on a restrictor plate track given he is the leading active driver (and second all time) with 12 wins, (6 at each Daytona and Talladega).
I’m not a big racing fan, but I was suitably impressed when some outfit matched a teenager who was supposedly the nation’s best at one of those computerized racing games requiring amazing reflexes against Gordon, who had never played the game. Gordon beat him.
Don't Forget
February 26th, 2012
12:03 pm
Recon 0311 2533
February 26th, 2012
11:51 am
Don’t Forget, I would question the validity that everyone who earns moderate to low income can’t afford to pay something in federal income tax. But lets say you’re right, what would be your solution?
Either you level the playing field between us and the countries that subsidize their industries so that our workers can compete fairly or you tax the people who benefit from these unfair trade practices.
Brosephus
February 26th, 2012
12:03 pm
That should raise some hackles.
I think “some hackles” is highly underestimating things…
Recon 0311 2533
February 26th, 2012
12:04 pm
“Get off that “income tax” lie.”
I won’t call you a liar, I’ll go easy and call you intellectually disingenuous.
Brosephus
February 26th, 2012
12:06 pm
Old Timer
Gordon is a great racer. If you get a chance, go back and look for video of him and Juan Pablo Montoya when they switched cars. JPM was driving in Formula 1 then. Gordon drove an F1 racecar for the first time, and he wasn’t too far off the times that JPM drove. I think Gordon’s one of those who could race the wheels off a lawnmower.
Recon 0311 2533
February 26th, 2012
12:09 pm
Don’t Forget, I would certainly agree with leveling the international trade playing field but the government has to take action that can accomplish doing so.
Don't Forget
February 26th, 2012
12:12 pm
Recon 0311 2533
February 26th, 2012
12:09 pm
Don’t Forget, I would certainly agree with leveling the international trade playing field but the government has to take action that can accomplish doing so.
Why can’t at least a few business’s stand up for what is right? Does the pursuit of profit rise above all other concerns? (rhetorical question)
Fred ™
February 26th, 2012
12:14 pm
Recon 0311 2533
February 26th, 2012
12:04 pm
“Get off that “income tax” lie.”
I won’t call you a liar, I’ll go easy and call you intellectually disingenuous.
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So no taxes whatsoever are paid by anyone EXCEPT income taxes? Really? What percent of the “income stream” for the federal Govt is from income tax? Do you know? I don’t and don’t have time to look it up right now (the girls want to go eat) but I would bet it isn’t a majority……..
I know I paid a lot more in “other taxes this year than I did in income tax.
DOGGONE: I disagree about the union thing. I’ll fight with you about it later lol.
Fred ™
February 26th, 2012
12:15 pm
For the Intimidator:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlW4zPE3twM
getalife
February 26th, 2012
12:15 pm
“intellectually disingenuous.”
Not bad del.
Recon 0311 2533
February 26th, 2012
12:16 pm
“That should raise some hackles.”
Don’t know about hackles but it will certainly raise more campaign shekels for Democrats.
Doggone/Ga
February 26th, 2012
12:18 pm
“DOGGONE: I disagree about the union thing. I’ll fight with you about it later lol”
No, you won’t. I won’t engage in a fight over my opinion.
bman
February 26th, 2012
12:22 pm
“Unionization of more of the workers. Give them some say in their compensation, instead of leaving them to the “tender” mercies of their employers.”
Ya….let them go to work for a company, then sort of start their own Management & HR company from within. I’m not totally against unions, but this just sounds silly.
Doggone/Ga
February 26th, 2012
12:24 pm
“Don’t know about hackles but it will certainly raise more campaign shekels for Democrats”
Am I supposed to worry about that? Because I don’t. Nor will I.
Doggone/Ga
February 26th, 2012
12:28 pm
” I’m not totally against unions, but this just sounds silly.”
I refer you to the history of the unions and their relationship with BellSouth for how it OUGHT to work…and, in that case, does. (And yes, I already know that BellSouth as a separate entity no longer exists, but that doesn’t negate the relationship between the company as it once existed and the unions)
Fred ™
February 26th, 2012
12:31 pm
Well that was a short trip lol. Honey let me off the hook, she’s going shopping instead.
Ok I did a quick peek and found this wiki thing which say that in 2007 income taxes were 44% of the budget. Yeah it’s not a majority but it’s a lot higher than I suspected. I figured around 30% at most.
As to your question Del: Let me think on it. There HAS to be a way of raising some tax revenue, having everyone pay some without completely breaking the poor.
Don't Forget
February 26th, 2012
12:32 pm
I think that in the future, private sector unions would be wise to tie their compensation to the profitability of the company they work for.
Fred ™
February 26th, 2012
12:33 pm
getalife
February 26th, 2012
12:15 pm
“intellectually disingenuous.”
Not bad del.
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Obviously you didn’t read my 11:56. It’s a straight rip from my first line lol.
Fred ™
February 26th, 2012
12:34 pm
Doggone/Ga
February 26th, 2012
12:18 pm
“DOGGONE: I disagree about the union thing. I’ll fight with you about it later lol”
No, you won’t. I won’t engage in a fight over my opinion.
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Jesu you sure love to get prickly. How about a pleasant exchange of ideas? Can I say THAT or do you feel compelled to censor that as well?
Doggone/Ga
February 26th, 2012
12:38 pm
“Jesu you sure love to get prickly”
Maybe you better get used to it. I’ve always been this way, and I don’t see it changing. That is ALWAYS going to be the problem with only communicating through the written word.
Fred ™
February 26th, 2012
12:43 pm
I used to be “anti-union” until I worked for a Company called JM Wilkerson. He had gone union (carpenter) to get govt jobs. When it is done correctly, it’s an awesome system. When you get a journeyman you KNOW by golly he knows what to do. For each carpenter you should have x number of helpers and then the laborers. Every one knows what they should do.
But on the other hand, Jim didn’t need to go union. he already paid higher and treated his employees better than any union. Now his employees had money taken out of each check for union dues. The retirement was now handled by the union (who don’t have a great track record of that).
Unions aren’t always better. Nor are they automatically the devil. Properly run they are great.
TaxPayer
February 26th, 2012
12:45 pm
Rush has a news letter which has a higher circulation than any publication other than U.S.A. Today.
The Koch crooks should print it on POM so it will get the attention it deserves through increased circulation. Which reminds me, which way, CW or CCW, would it circulate in North American toilets.
getalife
February 26th, 2012
12:45 pm
Fred,
The fact that del writes about intellectual honesty is change.
Doggone/Ga
February 26th, 2012
12:47 pm
“Unions aren’t always better. Nor are they automatically the devil. Properly run they are grea”
And that is exactly the point. They give the workers some power that they don’t have otherwise. Ideally, they should work themselves out of a job…but the recent past has shown that when you give away power, those who gain it will abuse it. It has ever been thus, and unions help rebalance that power.
Brosephus
February 26th, 2012
12:49 pm
When it is done correctly, it’s an awesome system.
Same thing applies to corporations. We shouldn’t let a few bad apples cloud our judgements against entire swaths of people. I guess that’s just human nature though.
Fred ™
February 26th, 2012
12:50 pm
Don’t Forget
February 26th, 2012
12:32 pm
I think that in the future, private sector unions would be wise to tie their compensation to the profitability of the company they work for.
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I disagree DF. The union scales for each particular industry seems to work pretty well. For instance, every electric contractor (union) knows how much labor a job takes and how much that labor takes. But however why should an electrician working for ABC electric make less than an electrician working for XYZ electric because the owner of ABC electric can’t bid for crap and underbids every job? He loses money because he’s stupid not because of anything his electricians do or don’t do.
JohnnyReb
February 26th, 2012
12:51 pm
re, unions. That Caterpillar plant in North Georgia sure is good news, huh? At whose expense? Peoria, IL, that’s who, where the unions went on strike after strike and finally run part of Caterpillar out of their state taking the jobs with them. But that’s not all.
Peoria use to have two large breweries, Pabst and Herman Walker where, like at Caterpillar bluecollar workers enjoyed better than average wages and benefits. They are gone, out of business there. Why? Unions. Just like the unions drove Easter Airlines out of business.
Yea, Doggone, lets put more unions in place so they can over-reach as they always do and end up with nothing.
0311/1811
February 26th, 2012
12:52 pm
Headline: “Afghans hunt for killers of U.S. officers”
Oh, you mean like the Pakistanis hunted for Osama ?
Fred ™
February 26th, 2012
12:52 pm
getalife
February 26th, 2012
12:45 pm
Fred,
The fact that del writes about intellectual honesty is change.
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LOL Get. His stuff lately has begun to make some sense. It’s like he’s actually READING what folks write. Not only reading, but weighing it, mulling it around and thinking about it, not just looking for code words to pop out the pre-programmed response. ( That’s why I spent the time to address him today lol.)
TaxPayer
February 26th, 2012
12:53 pm
Time is ticking — and money could be waiting — for those who have yet to file their 2008 federal tax returns. Half of those nonfilers could be due refunds of $637 each — their share of the more than $1 billion the Internal Revenue has in unclaimed refund money for that year.
JohnnyReb
February 26th, 2012
12:55 pm
I commented here yesterday on Lukovich not being in step with the majority of Georgians and how the AJC would continue to be a liberal rag with Luckovich putting forth the paper’s basic stand with his cartoons. Low and behold, today the AJC posts a counter to Lukovich. Doing so speaks volumes for the AJC in their efforts to be more balanced and I applaud them.
getalife
February 26th, 2012
12:56 pm
Funny thing about union members.
Most kept their jobs.