On gay question, Georgia legislators side with Sharia
A bill proposed in the Georgia House of Representatives would make it illegal for public employers, such as schools, universities and state government itself, to discriminate against Georgians on the basis of their sexual orientation or identity.
At this point in history, you might think that protecting school teachers and others from being fired solely because of their sexual orientation would be pretty uncontroversial. In fact, the legislator who sponsored the bill, state Rep. Karla Drenner of Avondale Estates, is herself gay. In a subcommittee hearing this week, every witness but one testified in favor of House Bill 630.
The sole exception was Tanya Ditty, a teacher and state director of the conservative and anti-gay Concerned Women of America, which claims 12,000 members in Georgia. Among other things, the group also campaigns against the imposition of Sharia law, which it describes as “a threat to America as we know it.”
Here is an excerpt from Ditty’s testimony.
For those unable to view the video, Ditty warns that the legislation would force public schools to hire and employ people who engage in beastiality, necrophilia and other -ialities and -philias too horrible to mention. She also expresses concern about restroom policy, recounting a searing incident five years ago in which she believes she shared a restroom with a man dressed as a woman, but didn’t discover it until afterward.
The good news is, she survived.
“What’s going to protect our children if a pedophiliac comes in and gets a teaching job, is a bus driver, is a custodian?” Ditty asked legislators. “And they can be people who just want to prey on children, and they will be protected with this law.”
For the record, child sexual abuse is a vicious crime. It is a felony in this state. Anyone with a record of pedophilia is not only barred by Georgia law from teaching in a school or serving as a bus driver; such a person is banned from living or working in any job within 1,000 feet of a school or even a school bus stop. Nothing about HB 630 would have changed that. The legislation does not protect criminals or sexual predators.
Nonetheless, the House subcommittee voted 3-2, with the Republican majority carrying the day, to kill the bill and to continue to deny gay and lesbian Georgians the right to be employed by the same government to which they pay taxes and by which they are governed.
However, I wonder if they realize that by doing so, they themselves have ensured that Georgia law remains in compliance with Sharia law, which like Ditty and others condemns gays for “transgressing the limits.”
NOTE: Please keep personal comments about Ditty and others within the bounds of civil discussion.
– Jay Bookman
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Paul
February 24th, 2012
9:35 am
Bud Wiser
“Wanna talk gas prices?”
Wanna talk about conservatives who believe criminal activity is an orientation?
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
February 24th, 2012
9:36 am
I can can get fired for any reason
Absolutely NOT a factual statement.
williebkind
February 24th, 2012
9:36 am
Tom
February 24th, 2012
9:34 am
Are you lying to the public again?
Eat the Rich
February 24th, 2012
9:36 am
Higher gas prices will mean people drive less and drive more fuel efficient cars. People will live in denser cities. Obama wants this and is happy gas prices are higher. He actually said we need high gas prices.
Good job Mr. President.
JohnnyReb
February 24th, 2012
9:37 am
Brosephus – my screen name is not based on my real name being John or Johnny, and I’m not a recreator of Civil War battles. I chose it because everything about me is a States Right guy. It’s not a power grab when the Federal Government should have never taken control in the first place. If we are successful in taking both the White House and the Senate, I think you will see not only Obamacare repealed but a lot of other Federal intrusions walked back.
williebkind
February 24th, 2012
9:37 am
Keep Up–Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
February 24th, 2012
9:36 am
In GA it is!
Doggone/GA
February 24th, 2012
9:37 am
“Things that make you go hmmm…. ”
They do indeed!
Normal
February 24th, 2012
9:37 am
Oh hell, I played Maria in an all male play of “West Side Story”. My rendition of “I feel Pretty” got rave reviews…
Butch Cassidy
February 24th, 2012
9:37 am
Oh geez, looks like the entitlement crowd is back again with their demand for low gas prices. Could someone other than me please explain to these losers that cheap fuel is not a right.
Fred ™
February 24th, 2012
9:38 am
It saddens me that such a law is even needed.
(ir)Rational
February 24th, 2012
9:38 am
Bro – I thought there were little Road Elves (not necessarily Keebler, I know they’re busy enough on making cookies) that repaired the roads and bridges?
Don't Forget
February 24th, 2012
9:38 am
Hey Bud,
The last time the oil executives testified to congress they estimated that 30-40% of the price of a gallon of gas is due to speculation in the market. Does that bother you or just taxes?
Jay
February 24th, 2012
9:38 am
Yes Paul, I suspect that “research paper” reveals a lot more about the sexual obsessions of those who wrote it and distribute it than it does about its alleged subjects.
RF
February 24th, 2012
9:39 am
“I’m saying that you were wrong to ridicule the woman for being upset over a man being in a restroom stall next to her”
As I asked earlier, how did she know for sure? I saw a gal in Wal-Mart the other day I would have sworn was a guy had it not been for the obvious anatomical display on her upper body that she had barely covered. The hideous makeup job and the gravelly voice had me wondering though…
USinUK
February 24th, 2012
9:39 am
“Oh hell, I played Maria in an all male play of “West Side Story”. My rendition of “I feel Pretty” got rave reviews… ”
Normal, as if you weren’t my hero before, you TOTALLY are now!!!
Normal
February 24th, 2012
9:39 am
Butch Cassidy
February 24th, 2012
9:37 am
That’s right. The only right you have is to conserve…buy a motorcyle!
USinUK
February 24th, 2012
9:40 am
Don’t Forget – 9:38 – I’ve been making htat point all week … good luck …
none so stupid as those who will not learn …
Butch Cassidy
February 24th, 2012
9:40 am
Don’t Forget – “Does that bother you or just taxes?”
Don’t waste your time. Rather than take responsibility for their choices, or go out and get a job that pays them enough to buy gas, they’ll just sit back on their couch and complain waiting for the government to save them. Sad, really sad!
Janney
February 24th, 2012
9:40 am
Ms. Ditty trained the teachers how to use smart boards. I remember her because she did not have much patience and the wallpaper on her laptop had a reference to either Fox News or the Tea Party, can’t remember which. Just thought it was kind of controversial to have that in a school.
JOSE
February 24th, 2012
9:40 am
Maybe we should consider Sharia Law in this country…………… wouldn’t it be better to go back to the good ole days when women had to cover up and shut up……….. a minority of our problems began when they got the right to vote as well………..
Jm
February 24th, 2012
9:40 am
I’ll back that up. As soon as the democrat Wisconsin gov candidate proves the republican governor has “ruined Wisconsin”.
Democrats are dirtbags and anti- America.
RF
February 24th, 2012
9:40 am
“Oh hell, I played Maria in an all male play of “West Side Story”. My rendition of “I feel Pretty” got rave reviews…”
Just so long as you went into the right restroom during scene changes, dude.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
February 24th, 2012
9:41 am
No williebkind… While Georgia is a “at will” employment state, you cannot fire someone for a prohibited purpose. Perhaps you want to check out the existing law in GA which HB630 proposes to change OCGA 45-19-29.
But to simply demonstrate you miscomprehension of law: You are saying that a person can be fired for being black? Christian? Female?
clyde
February 24th, 2012
9:41 am
Ogden Nash might have said,
Ditty
Pity
Normal
February 24th, 2012
9:41 am
Aw USinUK,
You make me blush…
Thulsa Doom
February 24th, 2012
9:42 am
“I’m not suggesting that she has that intent, but can you accurately predict that some nutcase won’t use such tactics 20 years from now?”
Not sure what you mean by this. That one person would start hanging gays for being gay or that one person would oppose a similar bill like this.
“My problem with things like this is that nobody thinks about the long term reprecussions.”
That’s the whole purpose. People on both sides are thinking about the longterm repercussions.
“Most of these protests of laws are rooted in religious beliefs, are they not?”
Yes. As are many of our laws such as murder. So.
“The attempt to back it by scientific fact only masks the true intent.”
Oh I think her intent and her feelings regarding the whole gay agenda are very clear and that she makes no attempt to hide or mask her feelings. She is simply using a research paper to bolster her argument. Both sides frequently do that. So.
As I said just narrow the language to include a couple of specific orientations and try it again.
Fred ™
February 24th, 2012
9:42 am
JohnnyReb
February 24th, 2012
9:37 am
Brosephus – my screen name is not based on my real name being John or Johnny, and I’m not a recreator of Civil War battles. I chose it because everything about me is a States Right guy. It’s not a power grab when the Federal Government should have never taken control in the first place. If we are successful in taking both the White House and the Senate, I think you will see not only Obamacare repealed but a lot of other Federal intrusions walked back.
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Are you crapping me J-Reb? You guys are the ones who slapped civil rights hardest in the balls with that damn ‘Patriot Act.”
GW bush took away more personal freedoms after Sept. 11 than the Democrats ever dreamed of taking for 50 years. Pull your head out of your partisan rear end and look around. Like I keep telling you, as an INDEPENDENT I don’t have a partisan ax to grind so I can see things how the really are, not how a talk show tells me they are.
And right now you republicans are completely bat crap crazy.
Midori
February 24th, 2012
9:42 am
Drama queen alert, drama queen alert! A four-tiara drama-queen alert!
yup
Normal
February 24th, 2012
9:43 am
“Democrats are dirtbags and anti- America.”
There’s your sign, folks…
philosopher
February 24th, 2012
9:43 am
Damm, Jay- when you insist we keep the discussion about someone like that within the bounds of civility, you essentially silence us…lol
The most obvious questions here…could somebody PLEASE give her something to relax one or 2 sphincters??? Second…if I were into bestiality and some of those other kinds of ‘alities…just how the heck are “they” going to know that???? Well, just add this crap to the already existing list…Georgia wants to control the position and the partner, and the body parts and Santorum wants to stop me from having fun unless I plan to produce offspring. ..I guess I’m too old now to have legal sex . Next thing, the waterbed has to go..they’ll be planting video cameras in our homes and holding burnings for anyone accused by a disgruntled neighbor of having a little fun out on the kitchen table…
RF
February 24th, 2012
9:43 am
“Yes Paul, I suspect that “research paper” reveals a lot more about the sexual obsessions of those who wrote it and distribute it than it does about its alleged subjects.”
You know, it does seem that those who oppose all the aberrant behavior they see in society surely do spend a LOT of time learning all the sordid details of it and talking about it.
Aquagirl
February 24th, 2012
9:43 am
I’m saying that you were wrong to ridicule the woman for being upset over a man being in a restroom stall next to her. A lot of women would be very uncomfortable with that.
Thank goodness doomy is in touch with his feminine side, seeing as how what women think or want can’t be expressed by y’know, women.
Butch Cassidy
February 24th, 2012
9:44 am
Normal – “That’s right. The only right you have is to conserve…buy a motorcyle!”
Agreed, or walk, or don’t buy gas if you don’t like the price, or sell the Expedition, or move closer to your job, or take the bus…. Lots of options out there other than waiting for the government to step in and rescue you.
Midori
February 24th, 2012
9:45 am
US –
Normal is tops but my hero is Fred
USinUK
February 24th, 2012
9:46 am
Jm seems to need a change – his diaper must be poopy and uncomfortable – he’s all cranky and out of sorts …
Butch Cassidy
February 24th, 2012
9:47 am
USinUK – “Jm seems to need a change – his diaper must be poopy and uncomfortable – he’s all cranky and out of sorts …”
He’s just upset because he wants the “gubment” to step in and save him from the free market.
(ir)Rational
February 24th, 2012
9:47 am
Aqua – We’ve already established this week that only Republican Men have the right and knowledge to accurately express what women want. Especially you silly liberal women, you probably don’t have enough brains to do so on your own without being told by them.
ByteMe
February 24th, 2012
9:47 am
I’m stunned by this article.
Not that Ditty feels that way, that’s a given. Not that Republicans voted that way, that’s also a given.
I’m stunned that it even got a hearing. Republicans don’t usually do that with Dem bills. Must have hit a nerve somewhere.
Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
February 24th, 2012
9:47 am
The lumping of homosexuality with pedophilia is a tactic used to make it sound as ugly as possible although there is no 100% connection between the two.
Like lumping conservatives with racists? There is no 100% connection but…..
Talking Points
February 24th, 2012
9:48 am
Last week the GOP published its weekly talking points and highlighted gas prices as an area to attack the President. It is good to see that the Fox News watchers and those that listen to right wing radio heard their marching orders. Perhaps they should consider that a stronger economy and growing unrest over Iran contributes to these higher prices. One can only imagine gas prices if they got their wish and could declare war on Iran.
Brosephus™ - Some things simply make you think WTF??
February 24th, 2012
9:49 am
“Under my plan energy prices will necessarily skyrocket”- Barack Obama in 2008.
And what plan was that? Would that be his cap-and-trade plan that has not even saw committee action?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jun/11/mike-pence/pence-claims-obama-said-energy-costs-will-skyrocke/
JOE COOL
February 24th, 2012
9:50 am
I feel sorry for the Gay men and women of the GOP who have to live their lives in the closet and not be free to be who they are due to the environment/political affiliation that they CHOOSE to stand with. Must be a hard life.
They BOTH suck
February 24th, 2012
9:50 am
“If we are successful in taking both the White House and the Senate, I think you will see not only Obamacare repealed but a lot of other Federal intrusions walked back.”
Which “intrusions” do you foresee being walked back and why did that not occur the 1st 6 yrs Bush was in office?
Not arguing what you deem as an “intrusion”; however I am saying like the Democrat Party, Republicans promise a lot when not in power than it is business as usual when they get that power……
Strange and sad as well, but the electorate seems to buy it on a regular basis
Butch Cassidy
February 24th, 2012
9:50 am
Talking Points – “Last week the GOP published its weekly talking points and highlighted gas prices as an area to attack the President.”
I’ll tell you what, the GOP never ceases to amaze me. One day they all want free trade and capitalism, and then the next they want Obama to nationalize the oil industry so that he can dictate gas prices. They must get awful dizzy from all the spinning.
Thulsa Doom
February 24th, 2012
9:51 am
(ir)Rational
February 24th, 2012
9:10 am
“Thulsa – Exactly why does the state have the right to dictate what two consenting adults do in their bedroom?”
Irational,
What in the hell does your silly bumper sticker slogan about what consenting adults do in their bedroom have to do with this discussion. Seriously? Where in the hell am I or anyone else on here or miss ditty proposing that we regulate what people are doing in their bedrooms? Where? When you get over your bumper sticker slogans and have an intelligent point then please join in.
“And what gives you the moral authority to condemn anyone’s choices?”
Please provide to me the post where I condemned someone’s choices? WHere is it sir? Work on your reading comprehension and get out of your knee jerk reactionary stance of automatically assuming people are saying things that they never even came close to saying. Good freaking grief.
Brosephus™ - Some things simply make you think WTF??
February 24th, 2012
9:51 am
JReb
I never assumed anything about your name. My point is that, what “I” see is nothing more than a pissing contest over who has the power to do what. I’m not saying who’s right or who’s wrong. When two competing entities are fighting over the same power, then my opinion is that, anything done to gain that power is a power grab tactic. I’m not passing judgement, I’m just calling the tactic for what I see.
RF
February 24th, 2012
9:52 am
As much fun as this all is, I have to get busy and get the blower motor off my furnace and put in a new one. Why do builders always have to put the furnace where you either have to crawl in with the spiders or be less than 3ft. tall to get to it? I wonder if Ms. Ditty would recognize me as gay if she saw me working on the furnace- the fashion police would have a fit!
philosopher
February 24th, 2012
9:53 am
I tell you what…Maybe if I lived in another state, I might get all “het up” over the federal govt. stepping on states’ rights. But the sane folks in this state of raving maniacs NEED protection from state government, a collection of ignorant, uptight, lying, hypocritical, redneck, backwards hicks, who want to control every breath I take.
Don't Forget
February 24th, 2012
9:53 am
I really think that most of these “social conservatives” are about 4 martini’s away from doing everything they fear from others and that’s the real issue.
Jay
February 24th, 2012
9:54 am
Philosopher, I just don’t like to see private citizens attacked on a personal basis for daring to speak their minds, even if …. well, you know.
Her point of view itself is fair game, of course, since it was offered in a public forum to influence public policy. But there’s a distinction between how we ought to approach private citizens such as Ditty and, say, politicians.
Oscar
February 24th, 2012
9:55 am
philosopher
______
Quit holding back. Tell us what you really think of our state government.
(ir)Rational
February 24th, 2012
9:56 am
Thulsa – First, you’re right, the post I was responding to just expressed outrage that Jay would dare question a crazy woman and call her crazy, guess you didn’t actually imply (but you did make it easy for one to infer) that you are condemning someone’s choices. As for the rest of it, it isn’t a “bumper sticker slogan” as you put it. This discussion has EVERY thing to do with what consenting adults do in their bedrooms. Considering how it is whether the state has the right to bar them from employment for that very thing. But I guess someone who only has a “knee jerk reactionary stance” isn’t going to be able to see that very objectively. But hey, you keep believing what you want to believe.
ty webb
February 24th, 2012
9:56 am
I predict more glitter bombs…they’re so effective in changing public opinion.
Jm
February 24th, 2012
9:56 am
Butch. Hardly.
I’d be thrilled if the Feds just got out of the way
Joe Hussein Mama
February 24th, 2012
9:57 am
Doom — “Yes. As are many of our laws such as murder. So. ”
One can acknowledge murder being wrong without that acknowledgement being religious in nature. I don’t credit for a moment that murder being a crime in our society has a single thing to do with there being any particular religious proscription against it.
Adam
February 24th, 2012
9:57 am
Doom: “Under my plan energy prices will necessarily skyrocket”- Barack Obama in 2008.
That’s about as straightforward as you can be on energy prices. He said it. I believe him for once.
Like I said, PROVE it. This is not what he actually said, and is also sourced from an edited video, as far as I can tell from a Google search. What he actually said has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with oil or gas prices.
Concede that, and we can talk about how wrong it was for him to take that position on the issue he was ACTUALLY talking about, and how he hasn’t even implemented his “plan” as mentioned above.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?
February 24th, 2012
9:57 am
Seems rather silly for anyone to claim that a discussion about sexual orientation is NOT a discussion about what consenting adults do in their bedroom. It is a diversion and more drama queen rant to suggest that this is direct regulation of the bedroom. A discussion about sexual orientation is necessarily a discussion about acts which occur in bedrooms.
Perhaps we better move that drama queen alert up to 5 stars!
Adam
February 24th, 2012
9:58 am
He actually said we need high gas prices.
Prove it.
Thulsa Doom
February 24th, 2012
9:58 am
“Thank goodness doomy is in touch with his feminine side, seeing as how what women think or want can’t be expressed by y’know, women.”
Aquagirl,
Well then I guess I’ll just have to defer to you. After all being a woman and all you automatically know what the 4 million other women in the state feel and think. And let’s not forget that you of course know exactly how many women would or wouldn’t feel comfortable knowing there is a man in the stall next to them.
Brosephus™ - Some things simply make you think WTF??
February 24th, 2012
9:59 am
As I said just narrow the language to include a couple of specific orientations and try it again.
The problem with what you’re asking is that what she’s talking about has nothing to do with sexual orientation in the first place.
http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx
Sexual orientation refers to an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions to men, women, or both sexes. Sexual orientation also refers to a person’s sense of identity based on those attractions, related behaviors, and membership in a community of others who share those attractions.
That’s coming from the American Psychological Association. Can you show where necrophilia and those other things even pertain to orientation. She’s basically marching a straw army through the Gold Dome, and you and others are laying rose petals at her feet while she’s torching those straw men.
Midori
February 24th, 2012
9:59 am
Today, President Obama delivered a strong moral rebuke of Republicans who are rooting for higher gas prices so that Americans feel more pain at the pump.
Here is the video from C-SPAN:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/ObamaonEne
(ir)Rational
February 24th, 2012
10:00 am
Thulsa – I would venture that Aqua has a much better idea than you do, but that could just be a “knee jerk reaction” to the fact that one would have to assume, being a man and all, that you probably have male genitalia.
Butch Cassidy
February 24th, 2012
10:00 am
Thulsa Doom – “And let’s not forget that you of course know exactly how many women would or wouldn’t feel comfortable knowing there is a man in the stall next to them.”
I haven’t had any complaints yet.
Adam
February 24th, 2012
10:00 am
Brosephus: I see your Politifact source was from 2009. While that probably makes it more accurate, please do not source Politifact. They have been unreliable since about October of last year, possibly earlier than that.
Fred ™
February 24th, 2012
10:01 am
Midori
February 24th, 2012
9:45 am
US –
Normal is tops but my hero is Fred
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Ahhhhhhhh you have me speechless…… :blush:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PjqsMop2LQ&feature=BFa&list=PL7B626D544F671E2C&lf=plpp_video
Ennis
February 24th, 2012
10:02 am
Is it just me or are all the Ga people that get elected have to go thru a crazy test, and if they fail, have to go get their crazy tank filled???
(ir)Rational
February 24th, 2012
10:02 am
Bro – Careful now, bringing facts into this will just muddle the issue.
Adam
February 24th, 2012
10:02 am
JHM: One can acknowledge murder being wrong without that acknowledgement being religious in nature. I don’t credit for a moment that murder being a crime in our society has a single thing to do with there being any particular religious proscription against it.
The entire concept of murder, as well as the concept of theft, have NOTHING to do with morals. Morals were applied AFTER it was discovered how tribes and larger societies benefit from such rules as a mode of enforcement.
JOE COOL
February 24th, 2012
10:02 am
The internet can be your friend and your enemy…..that poor lil lady DITTY will catch all kind heat for this. I aint mad at her for saying her piece, but people in life have to know that freedom of speech does come at a price.
Thulsa Doom
February 24th, 2012
10:03 am
Adam. Prove it? I just did. But I can’t make you open your eyes. That I leave up to you. Nevertheless I’ll give you some more proof. Oil production in the U.S. is at an alltime high- due mainly to the end of the drilling moratorium under W. Also take a look at the numbers of drilling permits being issued. Its half or less under Obama as what it was under W. That’s pretty direct proof sir. And as for the nonsensical argument that the Ds always present that we can’t influence the price of oil by drilling for more oil I have but one response. If you drill for more oil you increase the world supply. Yes? I now direct all liberals to the laws of supply and demand.
USinUK
February 24th, 2012
10:04 am
“how many women would or wouldn’t feel comfortable knowing there is a man in the stall next to them”
I don’t know any woman who HASN’T used a men’s room at one point or another during their 20s when they were out (because the line for the ladies was too damned long)
Adam
February 24th, 2012
10:04 am
Midori: The speech was yesterday and it was awesome. He ripped apart the arguments of the “Drill Baby Drill” people and made sure everyone knew they were liars for saying that would solve gas prices.
Brosephus™ - Some things simply make you think WTF??
February 24th, 2012
10:04 am
Adam
The context in which he made that statement was in regards to cap-and-trade legislation. Others are trying to pretend it’s some general policy that he’s had, when that is not the case. That politifact link there accurately shows his statement for what it was intended for, and that is cap-and-trade legislation. That’s not something that politifact got wrong.
(ir)Rational
February 24th, 2012
10:04 am
Thulsa – Not an expert on this, but last I checked, that was in direct reference to the coal industry. How does that have anything to do with gasoline? There were plenty of other quotes you could have chosen that would have proved your point, but I’m not doing your job for you today.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 24th, 2012
10:05 am
JOE COOL — “…..that poor lil lady DITTY will catch all kind heat for this. I aint mad at her for saying her piece, but people in life have to know that freedom of speech does come at a price.”
Indeed. As our conservative friends often forget . . .
“Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.”
–Rush Limbaugh
Thulsa Doom
February 24th, 2012
10:05 am
Butch Cassidy,
Well I have to admit. I did laugh out loud.
williebkind
February 24th, 2012
10:06 am
“Democrats are dirtbags and anti- America.”
That is the sign of democrats!
Oscar
February 24th, 2012
10:06 am
We need to quit using so much gas and the price would fall. That’s what we need to do.
Adam
February 24th, 2012
10:06 am
Brosephus: True, but I am sure the case can be made without sourcing politifact. If you source politifact you are likely to see a bunch of politifact sources from the right in which they got it completely wrong. And I would like to have to avoid that.
JohnnyReb
February 24th, 2012
10:07 am
Fred – claiming to be an independent means nothing other than you are fickle. I suppose the Patriot Act could be looked upon as a states rights issue, but I believe usually not. And, don’t lump all Republicans into one group; I don’t think all support every aspect of the Patriot Act.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 24th, 2012
10:07 am
Doom — ” And as for the nonsensical argument that the Ds always present that we can’t influence the price of oil by drilling for more oil I have but one response. If you drill for more oil you increase the world supply. Yes? I now direct all liberals to the laws of supply and demand.”
I saw a guy from Reuters on the business news this morning, and he said the exact opposite of what you’re saying.
No diss intended here, but I’m going to go with the opinion of the guy who collects and reports business news for a living over your opinion, okay?
jewcowboy
February 24th, 2012
10:07 am
RF,
“do we actually need a law like this at the state level when federal law pretty much protects people from being discriminated against based on sexual orientation?”
Except it doesn’t. Please reference ENDA.
http://sites.hrc.org/sites/passendanow/index.asp
TaxPayer
February 24th, 2012
10:07 am
I personally do not believe that any person such as Ms. Ditty deserves civility in response to blatant lies introduced as testimonial in order to prohibit others from attaining the same level of freedoms in these United States as those like her currently enjoy. The least she could do is wear a Burka.
Butch Cassidy
February 24th, 2012
10:07 am
Thulsa Doom – “If you drill for more oil you increase the world supply. Yes?”
Yes, and then OPEC can simply reduce production to keep levels static. In the meantime, Shell Oil, owned by a company based in the Netherlands can then direct it’s U.S. producers to continue to sell oil at the current market rate. Thereby having 0 effect on the price of gas. But hey, that doesn’t sound nearly as sexy as “drill here, drill now, pay less”.
williebkind
February 24th, 2012
10:07 am
“Midori: The speech was yesterday and it was awesome. He ripped apart the arguments of the “Drill Baby Drill” people and made sure everyone knew they were liars for saying that would solve gas prices.”
OMG! Did we hear the same speech? You really are lost to America!
Adam
February 24th, 2012
10:07 am
Thulsa: Adam. Prove it? I just did. But I can’t make you open your eyes. That I leave up to you.
Way to stay honest.
What Obama said had NOTHING to do with oil and gas prices, and I proved that. If you can prove otherwise, go for it.
Oscar
February 24th, 2012
10:08 am
If you drill for more oil you increase the world supply.
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No, not by drilling. Unless you find some and bring it to market. Then the supply is increased.
Brosephus™ - Some things simply make you think WTF??
February 24th, 2012
10:08 am
http://www.times-herald.com/local/Subcommittee-kills-bill-to-prevent-state-hiring-discrimination–2089848
“The gist of this bill is fairness,” Drenner said. “There is nothing civil about discrimination.”
She noted that 24 states and 13 of Georgia’s local governments already have similar anti-discrimination policies.
[...]
The lone witness opposed to the bill was Tanya Ditty, state director of Concerned Women of America. She said the bill would erase safeguards against schools hiring child molesters because their sexual preferences could no longer be discriminated against.
Sexual preferences and sexual orientation are not the same thing. And she’s supposed to be an educator? Damn….
Aquagirl
February 24th, 2012
10:09 am
After all being a woman and all you automatically know what the 4 million other women in the state feel and think.
Woah! quite a hissy lecture from the d00d who just spoke for “most women.” Especially seeing as how I expressed no opinion on what “most women” think in this matter.
I forgot that as a man it’s not only your job to speak for “most women,” it’s your job to pre-emptively tell women they don’t speak for women.
Now if you’re done with the lectures get back in that kitchen and make me a sammich.
philosopher
February 24th, 2012
10:09 am
Oh, I agree, Jay, but when a person takes their craziness to the point of messing with someone else’s right to life, liberty and the pursuit of a job, they’d better have thick skin. Some days, this crap just gets to me! I keep thinking it can’t get any worse…and then I read this stuff ….surreal!
Adam
February 24th, 2012
10:10 am
williebkind: OMG! Did we hear the same speech? You really are lost to America!
I bet you think he blamed Bush for something in the speech too…
Thulsa Doom
February 24th, 2012
10:10 am
“This discussion has EVERY thing to do with what consenting adults do in their bedrooms”
Um. No. It doesn’t. You just think it does because it matches your bumper sticker slogan that you like to bandy about so much.
williebkind
February 24th, 2012
10:10 am
jewcowboy
February 24th, 2012
10:07 am
How did sexual orientation get into the constitution? Was that another judge making law?
Doggone/GA
February 24th, 2012
10:10 am
“If you drill for more oil you increase the world supply. Yes? I now direct all liberals to the laws of supply and demand.”
No. That would only be true IF we were the ONLY people with oil to sell. We could drill more, produce more…and other suppliers could REDUCE their output and the supply would remain exactly the same.
Brosephus™ - Some things simply make you think WTF??
February 24th, 2012
10:10 am
Adam
When I googled that quote, that was one of the first links that explained where the quote came from. Fact is fact and can’t be twisted to something other than it’s meaning unless that fact is chopped to pieces. I don’t care what source it is. I don’t get into that whole source nullification stuff that y’all do.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 24th, 2012
10:10 am
Oscar — “We need to quit using so much gas and the price would fall. That’s what we need to do.”
That’s exactly what the Reuters guy said. Reducing consumption is about the only way the US can impact petroleum prices.
If we produce more, then other nations that produce more oil than we do will produce less. If we cut back production, other nations will increase theirs.
The only way, he said, for us to influence oil prices, would be to cut back our *consumption* or to physically take oil off the market by producing it and holding it without selling it. Iran has done that in the past, but since we don’t have a nationalized petroleum industry, that’s not a method we can use. Therefore, he said, the only tool we have here is to cut back consumption.
HDB
February 24th, 2012
10:11 am
Jm
February 24th, 2012
9:32 am
In less than a full term, Obama has worked towards restoring America.
There….fixed your statement…………
williebkind
February 24th, 2012
10:11 am
Adam
February 24th, 2012
10:10 am
No, but if he told you the ocean was black you would begin recoloring your maps.
Nope
February 24th, 2012
10:12 am
So Thulsa… if I went before the State legislature and testified that YOU were a pedophile and that YOU wanted to rape children in public school bathrooms, you would be happy with that language? Of course you wouldn’t .You would be angry that someone lied about you and spoke about you with such disgusting hatred. Walk a mile in someone else shoes before you judge them.
ty webb
February 24th, 2012
10:12 am
Let me go ahead and apologize. In a drunken stupor, I once wandered into a women’s restroom at a hilton head beach club…I became aware of my surroundings at “mid stream”…I left as soon as as finished. Sorry for the irreparable damage I may have caused. It wasn’t my intent… When you have to go, you have to go.