On gay question, Georgia legislators side with Sharia

A bill proposed in the Georgia House of Representatives would make it illegal for public employers, such as schools, universities and state government itself, to discriminate against Georgians on the basis of their sexual orientation or identity.

At this point in history, you might think that protecting school teachers and others from being fired solely because of their sexual orientation would be pretty uncontroversial. In fact, the legislator who sponsored the bill, state Rep. Karla Drenner of Avondale Estates, is herself gay. In a subcommittee hearing this week, every witness but one testified in favor of House Bill 630.

The sole exception was Tanya Ditty, a teacher and state director of the conservative and anti-gay Concerned Women of America, which claims 12,000 members in Georgia. Among other things, the group also campaigns against the imposition of Sharia law, which it describes as “a threat to America as we know it.”

Here is an excerpt from Ditty’s testimony.

For those unable to view the video, Ditty warns that the legislation would force public schools to hire and employ people who engage in beastiality, necrophilia and other -ialities and -philias too horrible to mention. She also expresses concern about restroom policy, recounting a searing incident five years ago in which she believes she shared a restroom with a man dressed as a woman, but didn’t discover it until afterward.

The good news is, she survived.

“What’s going to protect our children if a pedophiliac comes in and gets a teaching job, is a bus driver, is a custodian?” Ditty asked legislators. “And they can be people who just want to prey on children, and they will be protected with this law.”

For the record, child sexual abuse is a vicious crime. It is a felony in this state. Anyone with a record of pedophilia is not only barred by Georgia law from teaching in a school or serving as a bus driver; such a person is banned from living or working in any job within 1,000 feet of a school or even a school bus stop. Nothing about HB 630 would have changed that. The legislation does not protect criminals or sexual predators.

Nonetheless, the House subcommittee voted 3-2, with the Republican majority carrying the day, to kill the bill and to continue to deny gay and lesbian Georgians the right to be employed by the same government to which they pay taxes and by which they are governed.

However, I wonder if they realize that by doing so, they themselves have ensured that Georgia law remains in compliance with Sharia law, which like Ditty and others condemns gays for “transgressing the limits.”

NOTE: Please keep personal comments about Ditty and others within the bounds of civil discussion.

– Jay Bookman

440 comments Add your comment

Midori

February 24th, 2012
8:37 am

jm

February 24th, 2012
8:39 am

“civil discussion”

That will occur elsewhere….

Brosephus™ - Some things simply make you think WTF??

February 24th, 2012
8:39 am

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Doggone/GA

February 24th, 2012
8:42 am

What I would like to see is a HUGE increase in the number of bumper stickers and T-shirt slogans:

“I’m gay and I VOTE!”

Gale

February 24th, 2012
8:43 am

I’d buy that one, Doggone/GA!

Thulsa Doom

February 24th, 2012
8:43 am

“But I wonder if they realize that by doing so, they themselves have complied with Sharia law”

Naw. They won’t actually be complying with Sharia law until they start hanging gays for being gay like they do in Iran.

jm

February 24th, 2012
8:43 am

“I’m gay and I VOTE!”

Won’t happen. Gay population is just not that big of a demographic. At least as of now.

Adam

February 24th, 2012
8:43 am

People who think that being gay somehow necessarily leads to them being unable to help themselves from raping children, people of the same sex, or corpses – those people are the ones that need to be psychologically retrained, not normal gay people.

Gale

February 24th, 2012
8:44 am

The pity is Ditty can even say something like that without being laughed out of the room.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing?

February 24th, 2012
8:46 am

Well the current “record” for “protecting the children” shows that many failures in the “system” already exist, so I am sure that the legislators considered substantive evidence of how this bil would make things “worse” and not just more knee jerk reaction based on false stereotypes.

Oh wait…. its Georgia republicans.

Thulsa Doom

February 24th, 2012
8:46 am

Bro starts Friday off with a good laugh. The hand on forehead never gets old.

Shame on Georgia

February 24th, 2012
8:46 am

Jays says,
“What’s going to protect our children if a pedophiliac comes in and gets a teaching job, is a bus driver, is a custodian?” Ditty asked legislators. “And they can be people who just want to prey on children, and they will be protected with this law.”

Please remind this woman that there are people like this all around us everyday. When the Catholic church could not protect the kids, what makes her think that this law will do that. Georgia always the embarassing state….This is why so many of our kids choose to run away from home…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISvMS6s41vY&ob=av2e

bob

February 24th, 2012
8:46 am

“Nonetheless, the House subcommittee voted 3-2, with the Republican majority carrying the day, to kill the bill and to continue to deny gay and lesbian Georgians the right to be employed by the same government to which they pay taxes and by which they are governed.”
Jay, is this what you get out of the story, that gays cannot be employed by gov ? I think that is taking it a bit far isn’t it ? I can can get fired for any reason, so can a gay, get over it.

Ira in East Lake

February 24th, 2012
8:46 am

Between this malarky and the nullification nonsense, the state GOP isn’t far behind the crazies at the national level.

I say encourage them, whip ‘em up into a frenzy so they’ll over reach and get slapped down by the real moderates in this state – not like the fake moderates we see here…

Brosephus™ - Some things simply make you think WTF??

February 24th, 2012
8:48 am

Doom

Sharia starts off by banning things that go counter to religious beliefs. The punishments come later. Your girl is pushing that agenda, whether you want to agree or not. The lumping of homosexuality with pedophilia is a tactic used to make it sound as ugly as possible although there is no 100% connection between the two.

Why does the party of the Founding Fathers want to control what people do in the privacy of their own home when it’s two consenting adults? I don’t like to label Americans as Taliban, but they damn sure share similar qualities at times.

Skip

February 24th, 2012
8:50 am

diddy diddy dom diddy diddy, is that how it went?

Eat the Rich

February 24th, 2012
8:50 am

Obama is in favor of higher gas prices.

One more thing he will have succeeded in doing by the end of his term.

Midori

February 24th, 2012
8:51 am

the only thing I want to know is whether T. Ditty is related to P. Diddy?

Adam

February 24th, 2012
8:51 am

Grasshopper

February 24th, 2012
8:51 am

What Ditty fails to mention is that her incident with the cross-dresser occurred in the men’s room at Backstreet.

Adam

February 24th, 2012
8:52 am

Obama is in favor of higher gas prices.

Proof please. A single quote without telling me where it’s from and when it was said doesn’t count.

Granny Godzilla

February 24th, 2012
8:52 am

We’re number last!

We’re number last!

Rah Rah Sis Boom Bah

Normal

February 24th, 2012
8:52 am

Brosephus™ – Some things simply make you think WTF??

February 24th, 2012
8:48 am

SoCo,
Well said!

JohnnyReb

February 24th, 2012
8:53 am

Why would such a law be needed? I don’t recall discrimination laws/decisions excluding gays from the same rights as others. My guess is any school teacher dismissed for no other reason than being gay would be overturned if it even made it to court.

Peadawg

February 24th, 2012
8:53 am

“Obama is in favor of higher gas prices.”

What does Obama have to do w/ this topic? Wow the deflection started early.

Guy Incognito

February 24th, 2012
8:53 am

‘cept that if radical Islamic law were followed here, anybody gay would have their head chopped-off

Could always move to Iran. Achma-nut-job said that they don’t have ANY gays there

Jm

February 24th, 2012
8:53 am

” The hand on forehead never gets old.”

Disagree. It got old a while ago.

(ir)Rational

February 24th, 2012
8:53 am

Y’all should have waited to let Bro go first with that facepalm. This is some serious BS right here.

Brosephus™ - Some things simply make you think WTF??

February 24th, 2012
8:56 am

Talking Head

February 24th, 2012
8:56 am

“A bill proposed in the Georgia House of Representatives would make it illegal for public employers, such as schools, universities and state government itself, to discriminate against Georgians on the basis of their sexual orientation or identity. ”

This is a pointless bill and topic, therefore I choose not to discuss. Let me know when you’re reading to disucss something more relevant.

RF

February 24th, 2012
8:57 am

I thought this issue was settled…do we actually need a law like this at the state level when federal law pretty much protects people from being discriminated against based on sexual orientation? Or is this a response to the nullification mess?

Cutty

February 24th, 2012
8:58 am

The movie It’s Pat just popped into my head for some reason.

Road Scholar

February 24th, 2012
8:58 am

jm: You just keep telling yourself that!

Bro: I had a boss that did the hand over face each time something went wrong in the office;Hilareous!

Normal

February 24th, 2012
8:58 am

jm

February 24th, 2012
8:43 am

Doesn’t matter. I’m not gay but I’d wear the shirt to prove the point. Equal rights for Gays fall into the realm of the Bill of Rights.

In fact, I belong to this organization with pride in my effort to see that equal rights are indeed, equal.

http://www.hrc.org/

Gale

February 24th, 2012
8:58 am

JohnnyReb is right on this. The law is not needed, unless of course, the nullification law was passed first. It seems to me the point to Jay’s blog was the dichotomy in Ditty’s position.

Cletus

February 24th, 2012
8:59 am

If we’re going to keep child molesters and pedophiles out of our school systems, it’s rather obvious what we need to do: pass a law prohibiting the employment of Catholics, particularly those who may have once been parish priests.

CJ

February 24th, 2012
8:59 am

“The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual..”

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

Normal

February 24th, 2012
9:00 am

Brosephus™ – Some things simply make you think WTF??

February 24th, 2012
8:56 am

:lol:

I’m keeping that one!

Brosephus™ - Some things simply make you think WTF??

February 24th, 2012
9:00 am

do we actually need a law like this at the state level when federal law pretty much protects people from being discriminated against based on sexual orientation?

Think about that again after pondering the idea that Georgia is floating a bill dealing with nullification of federal laws through the committees under the Gold Dome….

Sometimes, you have to step back a few steps before the full picture comes into focus.

Common Sense

February 24th, 2012
9:00 am

“However, I wonder if they realize that by doing so, they themselves have ensured that Georgia law remains in compliance with Sharia law, which like Ditty and others condemns gays for “transgressing the limits.””

So they were acting to implement Sharia law? No.

Funny how when people compare commonalities between the Hitler administration and the Obama administration, the loonies here go crazy.

Yet here you are using the very same tactic.

Now watch the loonies lock step together to support your comparison.

Orally Taints

February 24th, 2012
9:00 am

who is this sexy sharia of which you speak.

Doggone/GA

February 24th, 2012
9:01 am

“Gay population is just not that big of a demographic. At least as of now”

did I say you HAD TO BE GAY to display it?

Thulsa Doom

February 24th, 2012
9:02 am

Jay,

Before designating the woman a loon I actually took the time to listen to the woman’s argument. First of all assuming she is correct she said that the sponsor of the bill wrote “sexual orientations” which in the broad definition does in fact include up to 23 different orientations as documented in the research paper she provided. Perhaps if the sponsor of the bill could just narrow the language to a handful of specific orientations as opposed to the much broader 23 orientations which I’m guessing would in fact include things such as beastiality then the bill would pass.

Secondly the woman did tell of a cross dressing man who was in the stall next to her in a woman’s restroom. Despite your attempts to ridicule the woman there are a lot of women including liberal women who would feel uncomfortable knowing that a man is in the stall next to them in a public restroom. Doesn’t matter if he’s a cross dresser. He’s still a man.

And lastly it is against the law as she pointed out for men to be entering women’s restrooms. Seems like you conveniently left that out in your attempt to discredit her through ridicule.

Brosephus™ - Some things simply make you think WTF??

February 24th, 2012
9:03 am

Normal

We all know that Jay’s topic will get thread jacked by page 3. To come on here with crap totally unrelated to the topic within the first 20 posts is nothing short of attention whoreing. Some days it doesn’t bother me, but today’s not one of those days. You would think that topics that hit closer to home would be something that more people want to discuss, but I guess not.

Road Scholar

February 24th, 2012
9:05 am

Granny: Depends on how it is listed…the worse on the bottom…or at the top. Repubs like to list Ga as first…the worst in this country…it makes them feel gooooooood to lead the pack!

When do the “successionist” lock themselves in the capitol?

Midori

February 24th, 2012
9:05 am

“Gay population is just not that big of a demographic. At least as of now”

did I say you HAD TO BE GAY to display it?

Doggone – I’m not gay and I’d be proud/happy to wear it too…..

#1 Foxy Lady

February 24th, 2012
9:06 am

i think someone is angry for being called ‘titty ditty’ all through jr. high.

Doggone/GA

February 24th, 2012
9:06 am

“You would think that topics that hit closer to home would be something that more people want to discuss, but I guess not.”

That’s because some people DON’T want to discuss. All they are looking for is ANY opportunity to ride their hobby horse into the ditch.

Brosephus™ - Some things simply make you think WTF??

February 24th, 2012
9:07 am

Doom

When it comes to cross dressing, there are some tightropes that have to be walked in dealing with that issue. My first question to Mrs. Ditty would be if she reported that incident to any authorities? If she felt that threatened, would that not warrant reporting that incident?

Another thing is, even if he is a man, if he has any female parts, he will be treated as both a man and woman when it comes to law enforcement. If I stop a crossdresser who has breasts, hips, and everything else that looks like a woman, I’ll need a female officer to pat down the woman parts. I would lose my job if I patted him down, even though I know he’s a man. It’s not as simple as you make it sound.

Granny Godzilla

February 24th, 2012
9:08 am

RF

February 24th, 2012
9:08 am

I just keep laughing when I watch this!! She actually thinks someone would come in and get a teaching job and then claim “you can’t fire me as a pedophile by Georgia law”??!! Seriously? And her restroom example–OMG make it stop! My sides are hurting!! 23 sexual orientations? Really? She’s ignoring the obvious fact that this wouldn’t override laws stating the pedophilia is a felony…but let’s not cloud the issue with facts.

Doggone/GA

February 24th, 2012
9:10 am

“When it comes to cross dressing, there are some tightropes that have to be walked in dealing with that issue. My first question to Mrs. Ditty would be if she reported that incident to any authorities?”

Not only that, but “cross” dressing is pretty much a cultural thing. Heck, if you want to get techical she’s in there with “cross dressers” everytime someone in pants comes in. How does she know they aren’t ALL men?

(ir)Rational

February 24th, 2012
9:10 am

Thulsa – Exactly why does the state have the right to dictate what two consenting adults do in their bedroom? And what gives you the moral authority to condemn anyone’s choices? Oh, and if it is left at home, what makes these people a danger to the children they may be teaching, feeding, cleaning up after, or the hundred other functions that people are hired by the state to perform at a school?

Also, I believe the word you’re looking for is Transsexual, not cross dresser. And the law isn’t as clear on that as you seem to make it seem. And she only THOUGHT there was a transsexual in the restroom with her. She doesn’t know for sure. I can assure you, it isn’t as traumatic as you might think (well, maybe for someone as close-minded as that it could be) to share a locker room or bathroom with someone who is gay. Just cause they’re gay doesn’t mean they’re going to jump you in the locker room.

Road Scholar

February 24th, 2012
9:10 am

Thulsa:”d lastly it is against the law as she pointed out for men to be entering women’s restrooms”

Does that include the “little” janitors fulfilling Newt’s job program?

Normal

February 24th, 2012
9:11 am

Brosephus™ – Some things simply make you think WTF??

February 24th, 2012
9:03 am

SoCo,
The topic of “Gay” scares the hell out of more than a few folks on this blog, mainly due to a complete misunderstanding of “Gay”. That’s understandable and provides a reason for the topic jacking you talk about, BUT, what is not understandable or acceptable to me is the total lack of desire to find out all they can (as I did) about the subject of “Gay”. It really isn’t scary, gay men and women are not out to subvert you or your children, they are, for the most part, completely “normal”. I’m proud to have known more that a few and to have served with them in the military….period.

Slick and Tired

February 24th, 2012
9:12 am

Hey, Georgia is a “Right to Work” state — or better described: “Right to Fire” state. You can be fired for wearing brown shoes and have no recourse.

Let’s make it easier and just call it a “Right to Say Stupid Things” State and that would encompass everything coming from the Gold Dome.

JohnnyReb

February 24th, 2012
9:12 am

OK folks, put aside the foolishness and own up to knowing the Nullification thing is a message to Washington instead of some serious intent for Georgia to pick and choose which federal laws it will and will not obey.

There could be a show-down over, say, Obamacare, but it has to be taken in the context of protesting to the highest degree an over reaching Federal government.

To believe the suggested law protecting gays is needed because of a Nullification law is ridiculous. If you believe that, then you are one step away from the Nullificaiton bill passing and it be declared open season on gays and Liberals.

RF

February 24th, 2012
9:13 am

I gotta ask: how did she know, without looking, that it was actually a guy in the stall next to her? I’d love to ask her that…

thulsa: it didn’t seem to bother the women who marched boldly into the men’s restroom at the Dome when I was there for a concert once because the line was too long at the women’s restroom. Turned into a big joke and everyone had a good laugh. And nothing inappropriate happened.

Keep Up--Te gusta losing?

February 24th, 2012
9:17 am

Sick and Tired — Right to Work has little to do with termination. Georgia is a “at will” employment state. Right to Work has to do with whether a union may negotiate to require union membership as a condition of employment because the union represents all employees when negotiating.

(ir)Rational

February 24th, 2012
9:17 am

RF – You should probably have filed charges. I believe you were sexually assaulted and just didn’t realize it. :roll:

Jay

February 24th, 2012
9:18 am

Seriously, Thulsa. The restroom incident happened five years ago, by her account.

Did state law back then protect her from that emotionally scarring incident? Did she report it to law enforcement? Does this law have anything to do with restrooms? If it was in effect five years ago, would it have altered the course of events in any way?

The answer to all of the above is No. Her story has nothing to do with the bill or the issue, and everything about her personal horror at those who, in her opinion, “transgress the limits.”

Thulsa Doom

February 24th, 2012
9:18 am

“Sharia starts off by banning things that go counter to religious beliefs. The punishments come later. Your girl is pushing that agenda, whether you want to agree or not.”

Bro,

Are you suggesting that this woman and other Christians like her want to start us on a slippery slope to where we would one day go down the road of hanging gays for being gay? I don’t think that’s what you are suggesting but if so it would be an absurd suggestion- particularly given that people of that extreme view are an extremely small, tiny % of the population.

“The lumping of homosexuality with pedophilia is a tactic used to make it sound as ugly as possible although there is no 100% connection between the two.”

As I said all the sponsor of the bill needs to do is narrow the definition of sexual orientation to gays only and it would seem to me the problem is solved.

“Why does the party of the Founding Fathers want to control what people do in the privacy of their own home when it’s two consenting adults?”

2 things. First of all the founding fathers were for the most part deeply religious men. I seriously doubt many of them would be supportive of the gay agenda. Secondly I also doubt that they or most people in general care what goes on in the bedrooms of gays. That’s nothing more than a damn bumper sticker slogan used to inject emotional rhetoric into the debate.

“I don’t like to label Americans as Taliban, but they damn sure share similar qualities at times.”

So not believing in the imposition of a homosexual agenda because it conflicts with what you believe the bible says regarding homosexuality equates a Christian to the Taliban at times? That’s quite a bit of a stretch bro.

USinUK

February 24th, 2012
9:19 am

I can’t BELIEVE they capitulated to a group of 12K people …

talk about effing SPINELESS

Brosephus™ - Some things simply make you think WTF??

February 24th, 2012
9:19 am

OK folks, put aside the foolishness and own up to knowing the Nullification thing is a message to Washington instead of some serious intent for Georgia to pick and choose which federal laws it will and will not obey.

That is exactly why I stated that. If Georgia wanted to send a message to DC over specific laws, that’s what the court system is for. Making such a blanket statement, by way of a nullification law, does not show any specific intent other than to thumb their noses at federal law. The intent right now may very well be tied to the healthcare law. However, neither you nor I can predict what would follow that law 5-10-20 years down the road. As I stated on that thread last night, knee-jerk legislation always bites you in the ass somewhere down the road. As a citizen of Georgia, I will continue to push back against knee jerk things because of the fact that people are not contemplating long term reprecussions of their short sighted power grabs.

0311/1811

February 24th, 2012
9:19 am

JAY:

You forgot the Christian pastor who converted from Islam and has been sentenced to death in Iran under sharia law !

Oh by the way, a couple of from the last blog on “Nullification”:

1) BUT IT’S O.K. IF OBAMA “NULLIFIES” THE CONSTITUTION !

2) Speaking of “Nullification” !

“”The political elites are trying to NULLIFY (emphasis added), reverse and gut the Supreme Court’s ”
decisions through a blizzard of legislative road blocks,” LaPierre says.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/23/gun-ownership-very-difficult-despite-supreme-court-rulings/#ixzz1nGqjmaxw

Paul

February 24th, 2012
9:22 am

I sure hope Ms. Ditty doesn’t teach civics, government or psychology.

And it also sounds as if the three Republican senators were all taught by Ms. Ditty.

Adam

“People who think that being gay somehow necessarily leads to them being unable to help themselves from raping children, people ”

I don’t think Ms. Ditty was saying that. She was quoting an unsourced ’study’ which listed a wide range of sexual orientations (and the authors don’t have a clue what ‘orientation’ means. By their definition, a thief has an orientation).

If you want to read people who actually think homosexuality leads to pedophilia, etc, you’ll have to read comments from our fellow bloggers.

Eat the Rich

Fo-cus.

Talking Head/JohnnyReb/Gale

“This is a pointless bill and topic, therefore I choose not to discuss. ”
“Why would such a law be needed? I don’t recall discrimination laws/decisions excluding gays from the same rights as others.”
“The law is not needed,”

Did you feel the same way about repealing Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell for the military?

Normal

Thanks for the morning ‘toons!

Keep Up--Te gusta losing woofinpoofs?

February 24th, 2012
9:22 am

The concept that a woman should be terrorized by the potential that a man may be in the stall next to her is simply an overreaction and more fearmongering. Why indeed, if could have been a lesbian woman in the next stall. God forbid! :roll: Oh the fear and the drama.

Eat the Rich

February 24th, 2012
9:23 am

YouTube is your friend.

Obama wanted higher gas prices and he is getting them. Good for him.

Paul

February 24th, 2012
9:23 am

Thulsa

“Are you suggesting that this woman and other Christians like her want to start us on a slippery slope to where we would one day go down the road of hanging gays for being gay”

I missed the part where Ms. Ditty said she’s a Christian.

I wouldn’t have guessed so by her attitudes.

JohnnyReb

February 24th, 2012
9:24 am

Brosephus – I’m not so sure legislators who vote for the law would agree with you that it’s a power grab. The Right believes Obamacare is not just an intrusion of states rights but instead the straw that broke the camel’s back.

sheepdawg

February 24th, 2012
9:25 am

So sad, our state continues to regress, and will do so until the angry racist homophobic white old men loose control of our legislature

Midori

February 24th, 2012
9:25 am

Scout –

get help.

please?

Senate Toe Tappers

February 24th, 2012
9:25 am

At least Thulsa does not have to worry about entering a men’s room stall and having GOP Senators tapping their toes from an extra wide stance next to her.

Doggone/GA

February 24th, 2012
9:26 am

“The Right believes Obamacare is not just an intrusion of states rights but instead the straw that broke the camel’s back.”

Yeah, isn’t it a real pity that it was thought of by “righties” first?

Midori

February 24th, 2012
9:27 am

At least Thulsa does not have to worry about entering a men’s room stall and having GOP Senators tapping their toes from an extra wide stance next to her.

:lol: :lol:

folks — we have a winner!!!

:lol: :lol:

Thulsa Doom

February 24th, 2012
9:28 am

Jay,

I’m saying that you were wrong to ridicule the woman for being upset over a man being in a restroom stall next to her. A lot of women would be very uncomfortable with that. Can you at least be honest enough to admit that sir? Can you?

And the fact that it was 5 years ago has nothing to do with it. Or with the price of tea in China for that matter.

Now perhaps her personal retelling of the story has nothing to do with this bill. I still likewise see no point in your attempt to ridicule her over an experience she found upsetting. Its equally as irrelevant.

Also perhaps in the bill should it have passed cross dressers would be allowed to use the same restroom as women. I dunno. But if it would then perhaps that’s one reason as to why the woman related the story.

0311/1811

February 24th, 2012
9:28 am

Midori:

The family in Iran needs help. At least pray for them (if you pray).

Brosephus™ - Some things simply make you think WTF??

February 24th, 2012
9:28 am

Are you suggesting that this woman and other Christians like her want to start us on a slippery slope to where we would one day go down the road of hanging gays for being gay?

I’m not suggesting that she has that intent, but can you accurately predict that some nutcase won’t use such tactics 20 years from now? My problem with things like this is that nobody thinks about the long term reprecussions. Most of these protests of laws are rooted in religious beliefs, are they not? The attempt to back it by scientific fact only masks the true intent.

Here’s the text for the bill, House Bill 630.

http://www1.legis.ga.gov/legis/2011_12/versions/hb630_LC_36_1768_a_2.htm

If you, or anybody else, can show where it would override the criminality of beastiality, pedophilia, and the other “orientations” that are already deemed illegal, please point it out. I’ve read the bill, and I can’t find such a passage.

RF

February 24th, 2012
9:29 am

(ir)Rational: Yeah, when they said “y”all ain’t got nothing we want to see” I felt pretty assaulted…:-o

thulsa: some evidence would suggest that quite a few of the founding father were deists. They may have been deeply religious, but their beliefs were varied, thus the notion that government and religion shouldn’t be mixed.

Unfortunately, the tiny % of the population you mention are the ones making all the noise right now and sponsoring they kinds of ridiculous legislation we see in places like Virginia and here in good old Gawgia.

Thulsa Doom

February 24th, 2012
9:30 am

Midori,

I thought you promised you weren’t going to post anything directed at or related to me given the meltdown you had the last go round with me. Run along now before I send you home crying again.

Bud Wiser

February 24th, 2012
9:30 am

Wanna talk gas prices?

Here’s a did-you-know……..

Did you know that in Georgia, for every @$50 dollars you spend in fuelling up, almost $7.50 goes to the state and feds in taxes? For the mathematically challenged, that’s nearly a 15% tax rate…on EVERYBODY. (oh the poor, oh the poor, who is going to pay this unfair – but equitable – tax rate? I have it!! Tax the rich!!!)

Be very glad that if you have to drive for a living, (forget about truckers, their business should be socialized anyway and make them deliver for free) that you do not live in Connecticut, New York or California.

audra

February 24th, 2012
9:31 am

Has anyone else on here ever noticed that the people hung up on weird sexual perversions are the right-wing nut jobs? Things that make you go hmmm…. :)

Brosephus™ - Some things simply make you think WTF??

February 24th, 2012
9:31 am

I’m not so sure legislators who vote for the law would agree with you that it’s a power grab. The Right believes Obamacare is not just an intrusion of states rights but instead the straw that broke the camel’s back.

Is it not a power grab, if they think the feds overstepped their bounds, and the Georgia legislators are simply trying to regain the powers they feel they should have in the first place? To me, that’s not only a power grab, but a pissing contest for power as well. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

GT

February 24th, 2012
9:31 am

The right never auguries the subject matter, they bring in irrelevant argument which is allowed because the listening audience is sympathetic to their cause. The politicians are just looking for cover to agree with hate. Fear is an effective cover. The cowards run so fast they never have time to think how weak the facts are. Fear and cowardice what a legacy we leave.

Thulsa Doom

February 24th, 2012
9:31 am

Senate Toe Tappers,

Google my handle and you’ll understand your ignorance. Or maybe not…

(ir)Rational

February 24th, 2012
9:31 am

Thulsa – “Also perhaps in the bill should it have passed cross dressers would be allowed to use the same restroom as women.” – OH MY! Everyone, grab your pitchforks and torches, we’ve got to stop those people that identify themselves as women from using the women’s bathroom!

Normal

February 24th, 2012
9:32 am

Paul,
“Normal

Thanks for the morning ‘toons!”

Meh, it’s a job… :D

Jm

February 24th, 2012
9:32 am

In less than a full term Obama has ruined America.

Doggone/GA

February 24th, 2012
9:33 am

“I’m saying that you were wrong to ridicule the woman for being upset over a man being in a restroom stall next to her”

except she DIDN’T KNOW if there was or not.

Paul

February 24th, 2012
9:33 am

Jay

I looked thru the link on CWA and the Georgia link. Nowhere did I see any reference to the ‘research paper’ Ms. Ditty quoted.

That might be an interesting follow-up question by the press – link to the paper, who wrote it, what are the sources – then followup with the three Republicans to see why they accepted unverified information in casting their vote.

Jay

February 24th, 2012
9:33 am

Drama queen alert, drama queen alert! A four-tiara drama-queen alert!

Brosephus™ - Some things simply make you think WTF??

February 24th, 2012
9:33 am

Did you know that in Georgia, for every @$50 dollars you spend in fuelling up, almost $7.50 goes to the state and feds in taxes?

No Sh*t Sherlock!!! And did you just think the roads magically repaired themselves or there were Keebler Road Elves that used their effin magic to fix the roads and bridges? Geez……

mm

February 24th, 2012
9:33 am

“I can can get fired for any reason, so can a gay, get over it.”

Last time I checked, you have to get hired before you can get fired.

Tom

February 24th, 2012
9:34 am

The best statistical indicator for the likelihood of child sexual abuse is paternal alcoholism. Second highest: fundamentalist Christian religious beliefs.

(ir)Rational

February 24th, 2012
9:34 am

Jm – Care to back that up?

Butch Cassidy

February 24th, 2012
9:34 am

I totally see her point. Nothing worse than being set upon by a gang of gays hell bent on bringing you over to the dark side. I was attacked once in my own home, I was cleaning up boa feathers for days! ; )

Normal

February 24th, 2012
9:34 am

jm,

If you really think America is ruined, the, please, please move elsewhere…

williebkind

February 24th, 2012
9:34 am

Well, tell all those gay people CNN hires gays and widespreads this vile disgusting behavior. I think about half of CNN is gay now. Why does the vile disgusting behavior of the very few outweigh the nausiness of the many.?

USinUK

February 24th, 2012
9:34 am

could someone please show Jm to the fainting couch …

… and please pass him a cool cloth for his fevered brow – he seems all hyperbole’d out

Thulsa Doom

February 24th, 2012
9:35 am

Adam

February 24th, 2012
8:52 am
Obama is in favor of higher gas prices.

“Proof please. A single quote without telling me where it’s from and when it was said doesn’t count.”

Adam,

“Under my plan energy prices will necessarily skyrocket”- Barack Obama in 2008.

That’s about as straightforward as you can be on energy prices. He said it. I believe him for once.