Swing-state voters just don’t like Romney

UPDATE 12:45: Fresh numbers out of Rasmussen:

Obama 49%
Romney 39%

A 10-point lead is impressive, but Romney below 40% may be the telling number. And again, that’s from Rasmussen.

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In a normal presidential political cycle, fatally flawed politicians such as Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum would not be viable candidates for a major-party nomination this late in the process. So what explains their continued presence, not to mention Santorum’s current status as a fragile frontrunner in the polls?

purple

In effect, they are filling a large and growing vacuum, as the latest Purple Poll documents in startling fashion. The poll surveys voters in 12 swing, or purple, states* that are expected to decide the 2012 election, and the telling numbers are in the table to the right.

Look at the favorability numbers for the supposedly inevitable GOP nominee, Mitt Romney. Just 27 percent view him favorably, while 57 percent view him unfavorably. Again, these are the states likely to decide the outcome in November. And while Romney’s favorable numbers have dropped by 5 points since September, his unfavorable numbers have jumped by 18 points, a swing of 23 points.

Even within his own party, Romney isn’t doing well. As the Purple Poll report points out, “Among Republican voters, the results are dramatic: Santorum is much better liked (58%/24%) than is Romney (42%/41%).”

That’s pretty amazing, and it’s hard to imagine a means of reversing that trend. In fact, the data suggest that Romney may be trapped in a political death spiral. As his numbers drop, they give Santorum and Gingrich continuing reason to keep the campaign going. And the longer the GOP contest goes on, the longer Romney’s collapse continues.

The poll also shows some problems for President Obama — these are, after all, swing states. But to a candidate such as Romney, whose prime attribute is his supposed electability, its findings strike very close to home.

– Jay Bookman

*Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin.

581 comments Add your comment

Normal

February 23rd, 2012
11:22 am

Jay,

I think what we all have to remember is that these guys are the “best money can buy”…says something, doesn’t it?

Butch Cassidy

February 23rd, 2012
11:23 am

Normal – “I think what we all have to remember is that these guys are the “best money can buy”…”

Agreed. Without the support of the SuperPAC, Gingrich and Santorum would have starved to death by now as nature intended.

ByteMe

February 23rd, 2012
11:27 am

Without the support of the SuperPAC, Gingrich and Santorum would have starved to death by now as nature intended.

No more breakfast at Tiffany’s?!?

Yip, yip, yippee

February 23rd, 2012
11:27 am

I really hope the President and the Democrats run on his and their record. Looked at objectively (yes, I know that to our Regressive Party breth- and sistren, that’s alot easier said than done), they have actually done a phenomenal job over the past 3 years.

AmVet

February 23rd, 2012
11:27 am

I doubt I will live long enough to see the day, but hopefully the day is coming eventually when the GOP is not run and enabled by complete Bushbot incompetents and the intellectually bankrupt.

Who knows, perhaps they will ultimately be dragged, kicking and screaming into the 1960s…

Peadawg

February 23rd, 2012
11:28 am

That chart show that swing-state voters don’t like anything right. Not the direction of the country, not Obama, not Mitt, not Santorum…nothing.

chuck

February 23rd, 2012
11:28 am

I fixed your opening sentence for you:

In a normal presidential political cycle, fatally flawed politicians such as Barack HUSSEIN Obama would not be viable candidates for a major-party nomination this late in the process.

You are welcome!

(ir)Rational

February 23rd, 2012
11:28 am

Yeah, too bad the people that have had the opportunity to vote so far haven’t allowed that to happen. Them starving to death, as Butch put it, would be the best thing that could happen to the Republicans’ chances of removing Obama from office.

Yip, yip, yippee

February 23rd, 2012
11:29 am

AmVet – yes, although since they are still stuck very much in the 19th century, it would be nice if they could enter the 20th century. That way, come 2101, they can maybe start thinking about contemplating possibly entering the 21st century.

(ir)Rational

February 23rd, 2012
11:30 am

chuck – Out of curiosity, what is the obsession with the middle name that so many people seem to have?

Butch Cassidy

February 23rd, 2012
11:32 am

chuck -”In a normal presidential political cycle, fatally flawed politicians such as Barack HUSSEIN Obama would not be viable candidates for a major-party nomination this late in the process.”

Ummmm……You do understand that’s it more typical for the sitting POTUS to run for re-election more often than not right? Actually, after re-reading what you posted, I realize that in order to understand something, a person has to have the ability to think first. So never mind.

AmVet

February 23rd, 2012
11:33 am

Yip, the last two slates of GOP candidates remind of the 1919 Black Sox.

I think they are on the take and intentionally throwing these elections.

Otherwise, how can one explain these vegetables running for the office of President of the United States?

It truly boggles the mind…

Jefferson

February 23rd, 2012
11:34 am

Sometimes the 1st date goes good and it goes down from there…

Bob Farquhar

February 23rd, 2012
11:34 am

I read somewhere that the GOP is considering dusting-off Palin and Jeb Bush.

chuck

February 23rd, 2012
11:34 am

I don’t know ir…maybe it is the reminder that in spite of the fact that the biggest danger we face in this country is from radical islam, we elected as President in 2008 a man whose early life was dominated by a Muslim father and who has shown throughout his term an inclination toward appeasement of those same radicals (Muslim brotherhood in Egypt for example)

Mighty Righty

February 23rd, 2012
11:34 am

I don’t care for any of the Republican candidates, but there is no way in H— I will ever vote for the socialist currently in the White House.

Jefferson

February 23rd, 2012
11:35 am

Folks who don’t give respect, have little self respect.

Aquagirl

February 23rd, 2012
11:35 am

yes, although since they are still stuck very much in the 19th century

I don’t think they’ve made it that far, Santorum seems comfortably rooted in the pre-Reformation era. He probably has a dart board of Galileo in his basement.

ByteMe

February 23rd, 2012
11:36 am

that the biggest danger we face in this country is from radical islam, we elected as President in 2008 a man whose early life was dominated by a Muslim father

The crazy is strong in that one.

chuck

February 23rd, 2012
11:36 am

Butch… the fact that you support Obama automatically rules out the possibility of you having any ability or inclination toward rational thought.

Butch Cassidy

February 23rd, 2012
11:36 am

(ir)Rational -” Out of curiosity, what is the obsession with the middle name that so many people seem to have?”

It makes the President seem more terrortist and dictitorial that way. You know like Sadaam Hussein. I personally just blow it off by equating it to the fact that the people who engage in such behavior are probably the same people who ate their own boogers as children.

Normal

February 23rd, 2012
11:36 am

Beverly Fraud

February 23rd, 2012
11:37 am

Newt and Santorum still in it with Romney is kind of like Joan Rivers and Phyllis Diller in the running with Sophia Loren for Miss Universe.

But as Lloyd Bentsen might have said, “I watched Sophia Loren in the movies. I dreamed of Sophia Loren. Mitt Romney is no Sophia Loren”

I guess to be non-partisan, I could have said “As Larry Craig might have said,” but I’m not really sure about his “stance” on the issue.

(ir)Rational

February 23rd, 2012
11:37 am

AmVet – Bro and I were discussing below that Romney could have been a good candidate, had he ran as himself, and not as the person the far right wanted him to be to win the primary. We both agreed that he could have pulled a lot of votes from both sides of the middle and possibly been good for the country. Having said that, we both agreed that he has been pulled/taken himself so far to the right in an attempt to win some primaries that he has no real chance of doing that now. I actually can’t remember a good crop of primary candidates put forward by either side since I was old enough to pay attention. With the one possible exception being Hillary. I think she would have made a great president.

ByteMe

February 23rd, 2012
11:37 am

I personally just blow it off by equating it to the fact that the people who engage in such behavior are probably the same people who ate their own boogers as children.

Oh, great, now you’ve condemned my 4-year-old to a life of stupid. Thanks.

Yip, yip, yippee

February 23rd, 2012
11:38 am

AmVet – There isn’t much about the current Regressive Party (and the state of modern conservatism, for that matter) that doesn’t boggle the mind. It occurred to me last night that we could conceivably be in for a Democrat-controlled executive branch through at least January 2025. I have a strong feeling Biden will not run for reelection and Hillary will instead take his place. That way we have Obama/Clinton through January 2017, and Clinton/_____ through January 2025. Wouldn’t that be awesome?

Paul

February 23rd, 2012
11:38 am

I’m astounded at the lower unfavorability ratings for Romney than for Santorum. Gives weight to the view that the average voter, at this point, is woefully uninformed.

The death spiral thing – further illustration that Republican Party activists, die-hards, Tea Partiers and power brokers are tremendously out of sync with the average Republican voter.

So, AmVet, maybe there is some hope.

chuck

Fo-cus. The topic is the state of the Republican primary process and the effect it has on candidates’ behavior and ratings.

Butch Cassidy

February 23rd, 2012
11:38 am

chuck – “Butch… the fact that you support Obama automatically rules out the possibility of you having any ability or inclination toward rational thought.”

chuck, the fact that you arbitrarilly assumed that only strengthens my original analysis of you.

Mr. Snarky

February 23rd, 2012
11:38 am

Does anyone?
He’s like the nerdy guy who ends up with the girl because he hangs around long enough and the football star ends up in jail. He just keeps hanging around.

ByteMe

February 23rd, 2012
11:39 am

Bro and I were discussing below that Romney could have been a good candidate, had he ran as himself, and not as the person the far right wanted him to be to win the primary

Had he won as the relatively moderate technocrat he really wants to be, he would have gotten my vote. But he couldn’t help himself to pander to everyone at the same time, so now he loses more than just my vote.

Paul

February 23rd, 2012
11:40 am

(ir)Rational

Huntsman was on Morning Joe on MSNBC this morning (followed by Christie). When asked why he didn’t make it, Huntsman said it was because he refused to pander.

Given the Republican Party activists controlling the primary process, I’m afraid Romney would have met the same fate if he were to have ‘been himself.’

ByteMe

February 23rd, 2012
11:41 am

It occurred to me last night that we could conceivably be in for a Democrat-controlled executive branch through at least January 2025

Argh! Don’t say that. Rove thought that Republicans would rule for 40 years. The pendulum never ever stops moving in one direction or the other. Never forget that, because if you do, you end up with Bush II screwing things up for 8 years.

Thulsa Doom

February 23rd, 2012
11:41 am

“best money can buy”

Goldman Sachs disagrees. They, GM, and other corporate interests bought Obama in 08.

Butch Cassidy

February 23rd, 2012
11:42 am

Paul – “Given the Republican Party activists controlling the primary process, I’m afraid Romney would have met the same fate if he were to have ‘been himself.”

I disagree. I think the problem is that he is being exactly like himself. :)

ByteMe

February 23rd, 2012
11:42 am

Given the Republican Party activists controlling the primary process, I’m afraid Romney would have met the same fate if he were to have ‘been himself.’

Did McCain pander during the primaries? It didn’t feel like it does for this crop of losers.

Yip, yip, yippee

February 23rd, 2012
11:43 am

Aqua – I agree with the sentiment but I also happen to believe that Rick is a closet homosexual and his setup therefore consists of penis-shaped darts thrown at a picture of Dan Savage and the President, both naked, in a loving embrace.

AmVet

February 23rd, 2012
11:43 am

(ir), no doubt.

And the guy I feel most sorry for in the whole sordid deal?

Mitt Romney.

Likely a good, honorable man. And potentially even a good president, once upon a time.

But his going all Faust and kissing the ring of the GOP’s lunatic Limbaugh fringe is gonna cost him what chance he ever had.

One would think that the fake conservatives who are handling his campaign would be smarter than to replay the exact same mistakes made last time and to NOT jump right in for another McCaining, huh?

One would think…

RF

February 23rd, 2012
11:44 am

chuck- Obama’s father left the family and he was most directly influenced by his grandparents- Kansas born and bred white folks. I’d say their influence was much stronger than the absentee father the president openly states he had very little contact with through most of his life. My dad, who has always been part of my life, is a functioning alcoholic. I haven’t turned into one because I CHOSE not to- what incontrovertible evidence do you have that Obama has chosen, at any point, to be a full-fledged Muslim?

The Romney numbers only prove what we’ve know all along- the far right doesn’t like a Mormon, the moderates aren’t happy with his foolish play to the right, and the rest just find him boring and unconvincing. He can’t say anything that sounds strong and confident without time for a speech writer and coach to train him. And their only other leading candidate is a zealot who is speaking like a snake charmer in a holy-roller tent revival meeting every chance he gets. Yeah, that makes me, as an independent, really feel good about this race…

(ir)Rational

February 23rd, 2012
11:44 am

ByteMe and Paul – Yeah, that was basically the consensus we came to. I liked Huntsman before, but obviously he didn’t make it very far. As far as the ones there now, two out of the four are crazy, one has way too much baggage and the fourth, I would vote for if he were nominated, but like we said, he pandered to the far right so much that he lost too many people’s confidence. Santorum is so crazy (in my opinion), that I will consider voting for Obama if he looks like he has a chance of winning the general election.

Thulsa Doom

February 23rd, 2012
11:44 am

“I loves me the smell of fresh liberal hatred in the morning”- anonymous Obamabot

Paul

February 23rd, 2012
11:44 am

Butch

Ka-zing!

:-)

Jay

February 23rd, 2012
11:45 am

Along those lines, Amvet, you may have noticed that in the debate last night, Romney quoted George Costanza, the Seinfeld character. Jason Alexander, the actor who played George, later tweeted the following:

“Thrilled Gov. Romney enjoys my old character. I enjoyed the character he used 2 b 2. If he’d embrace that again, he’d b a great candidate.”

Butch Cassidy

February 23rd, 2012
11:46 am

Thulsa Doom – ““I loves me the smell of fresh liberal hatred in the morning”-

Not me, I sure do wish Ann Coulter and the rest of the liberals would get on board with the GOP party and start showing support for this stellar group of candidates.

ByteMe

February 23rd, 2012
11:46 am

Jay, that’s awesome.

Brosephus™ - Browning America Since 1973

February 23rd, 2012
11:46 am

maybe it is the reminder that in spite of the fact that the biggest danger we face in this country is from radical islam, we elected as President in 2008 a man whose early life was dominated by a Muslim father and who has shown throughout his term an inclination toward appeasement of those same radicals

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JOE COOL

February 23rd, 2012
11:47 am

“Likely a good, honorable man. And potentially even a good president, once upon a time.”

Agreed, but he wants it TOO much that he will stop at nothing for it, regardless of how many different stances he takes. Santourum my be off, but he is consistent.

(ir)Rational

February 23rd, 2012
11:47 am

ByteMe – I don’t remember it feeling like this 4 years ago either, but then again, I and everyone else I know were all way more wrapped up in the democrat primaries than we were in the Republican.

AmVet – Romney, and America are the losers in how our current primary system works. Actually, I wouldn’t mind seeing the two parties that we have now occupying the extreme fringe of their beliefs and having a third party take over the center so people like me would have a home.

Curious Observer

February 23rd, 2012
11:47 am

I see only a couple of explanations for Romney’s unpopularity in the swing states:

1. Conservative voters would rather have a truly conservative candidate than win the general election. They want a fire-breather who expresses their frustrations and deeply held beliefs. It’s sort of a re-run of the Confederates who know they’ve been beaten but continue to carry around Confederate battle flags and bumper stickers. That’s why Santorum out-paces Romney. These conservatives are somewhat like the beaten and bruised boxer who wants to boast, “But I got my licks in.”

2. The poll cited includes Democrats and independents who, given a choice of two somewhat distasteful alternatives, are willing to stick with the devil they know (Obama) than turn to the devil they don’t know (Romney). And who can know Romney, given the inconsistencies in his past?

(ir)Rational

February 23rd, 2012
11:48 am

Bro – Thank you. That is exactly what that comment called for.

Brosephus™ - Browning America Since 1973

February 23rd, 2012
11:48 am

Oh, great, now you’ve condemned my 4-year-old to a life of stupid. Thanks.

ByteMe

Sounds like you need to stage an intervention… STAT!!!

AmVet

February 23rd, 2012
11:49 am

And to Paul’s point, with the extreme degree of dysfunctionality in that party now, only the most rabid – or the ones who fake it best – can run the neo-con gauntlet of being willfully unpragmatic and dogmatic…

But ask them, they will tell you that they are fiercely proud that they stand alone against every modern civilization and western democracy in the world.

Which tells you pretty much all you need to know about them…

Thulsa Doom

February 23rd, 2012
11:49 am

“The Romney numbers only prove what we’ve know all along- the far right doesn’t like a Mormon,”

Not intended to be a factual statement. You gotta love it when they think they can read the minds and hearts of millions of people.

Butch Cassidy

February 23rd, 2012
11:49 am

JOE COOL – “Santourum my be off, but he is consistent.”

I’ll see your Santorum and raise you a G.W. Bush and Iraq. :)

Josey Whales

February 23rd, 2012
11:49 am

Chuck – you still looking for those WMD’s and yellow cake. Also looking for the real killer(outside of O.J.)

ByteMe

February 23rd, 2012
11:50 am

Sounds like you need to stage an intervention… STAT!!!

Sigh. We try. Every day. We try. But his fingers are sneaky.

Josey Whales

February 23rd, 2012
11:50 am

Santourum is consistently OFF

Yip, yip, yippee

February 23rd, 2012
11:50 am

(ir)Rational – again, if we can be objective for a second, mainstream Democrats do not occupy the extreme fringe. Not even close. That’s not to say there aren’t extreme liberals, but they represent the minority and are the proverbial eunuchs of their party. The same can’t be said of the Regressive Party, for whom moderate conservatives are the eunuchs. Remember, the term “RINO” is bandied about quite a bit, and never in a good way; there is no corollary for progressives.

(ir)Rational

February 23rd, 2012
11:51 am

ByteMe – Rub some jalapenos on them (cut up), he won’t go anywhere near his eyes, nose, mouth or anything else with them. Then again, DFACS might consider that child abuse.

Brosephus™ - Browning America Since 1973

February 23rd, 2012
11:52 am

Paul

Huntsman and Romney were the two that I thought would have the best chance at attracting enough independents to beat Obama. With Huntsman out and Romney wearing two right shoes, I don’t see anything at this point to drain off the independent vote.

ByteMe

February 23rd, 2012
11:52 am

That’s not to say there aren’t extreme liberals, but they represent the minority and are the proverbial eunuchs of their party

Queuing up a response that reeks of false equivalency from Rightwingnutistan in 3… 2… 1…

Butch Cassidy

February 23rd, 2012
11:52 am

ByteMe – “Sigh. We try. Every day. We try. But his fingers are sneaky.

Try the Clockwork Orange approach. Prop his eyelids open in front of your computer and make him listen to you read some of these blog statements aloud. :)

ByteMe

February 23rd, 2012
11:52 am

Then again, DFACS might consider that child abuse.

What do you mean “might”? :lol:

(ir)Rational

February 23rd, 2012
11:53 am

Yip – You could be surprised to see that the perception is similar, but opposite when viewed from the other side of the isle.

USinUK

February 23rd, 2012
11:53 am

“the far right doesn’t like a Mormon”

welp … all I can say is that the Republicans I know are anti-choice, but not religious extremists – they are the only ones I know who like Romney. And, even then, they don’t like-like him … they’re accepting him as the best of the lot.

Thulsa Doom

February 23rd, 2012
11:53 am

“Not me, I sure do wish Ann Coulter and the rest of the liberals would get on board with the GOP party and start showing support for this stellar group of candidates’

Well if they don’t like this group they can always stick with the proven loser who has presided over the single worst economic recovery since the Great Depression. Or they could go with Elmer Fudd. He couldn’t possibly do any worse than the O man. Personally I think Ann is holding out for Elmer to announce.

JohnnyReb

February 23rd, 2012
11:54 am

If I was a Leftie, God forbid, I’d be concerned of Santorum’s unfavorables being less than Barry’s disapprovals. Knowing, that as gas prices increase the annointed one’s numbers are going down the toilet. How do you yuts put it – it sucks to be a Democrat?

retired early

February 23rd, 2012
11:54 am

Huntsman was the best GOP candidate and you see how the far right treated him. Nothing short of a religious nut case can survive their primary. So, why is anybody surprised that Santorum is in the lead.
It’s really kind of fun to watch the GOP self destruct.

(ir)Rational

February 23rd, 2012
11:55 am

ByteMe – I don’t know, the only time I’ve ever dealt with DFACS is when they investigated my parents for child abuse cause I visited the ER too many times in a row. All of the injuries were documented to my stupidity, and happened at school, but they still felt the need to check.

Butch Cassidy

February 23rd, 2012
11:55 am

Thulsa Doom – ” Personally I think Ann is holding out for Elmer to announce.”

Probabaly, but Palin is going to have to wait until the brokered convention to do so.

Jefferson

February 23rd, 2012
11:55 am

Hate turns the mind to jello, at that point they will settle for anything. Too bad if it don’t go your way, buddy.

ByteMe

February 23rd, 2012
11:55 am

Well if they don’t like this group they can always stick with the proven loser who has presided over the single worst economic recovery since the Great Depression.

Huh. That’s the latest talking point, Doomie? That this credit crisis recovery looks a lot like the Great Depressions credit crisis recovery? That one’s gonna be a hard sell to anyone with a brain, so it’ll work well with your constituency, I reckon.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 23rd, 2012
11:56 am

And Santorum makes many people’s stomach turn. Sad what has become of the Republican party.
Democrats need some competition for the top spot.

JOE COOL

February 23rd, 2012
11:56 am

@Butch Cassidy…lol

@Josey Whales, agreed, but he gives the base what they want. The Tea Party is jumping on his bandwagon. Once Newt gets out of the race, Santorum numbers in the GOP will skyrocket.

Jimmy62

February 23rd, 2012
11:57 am

Just remember, Obama won the last election with tons of money bundled by Tony Rezko, who now sits in jail for fraud. I seem to remember Corzine helping him collect money, too. Obama uses convicted criminals and thugs to get money, yet y’all are upset about legit PACs who are not breaking any laws.

JohnnyReb

February 23rd, 2012
11:57 am

“..the extreme degree of dysfunctionality in that party (Republican) now….”

Are you kidding me? Obama stepped in it waste high with the Catholic birth control fiasco trampling the Constitution along the way; the hard Left supports him on it, and the Right is dysfunctional?

RF

February 23rd, 2012
11:57 am

thulsa: the fact that so many religious leaders are lukewarm at best in their support for Romney speaks volumes. Quite a few have outright said they’ll vote for him if and only if he’s the only alternative they have, but they still consider Mormonism a cult. I’m talking about the FAR right- a group which has been very vocal in this campaign even if the more moderate majority of the party doesn’t agree with them. And the fact that all of the current pool of candidates is pandering to them only encourages their lunacy.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 23rd, 2012
11:58 am

it sucks to be a Democrat?

LOL, we are looking at a landslide for Obama in November. It sure don’t suck. High times right now!

(ir)Rational

February 23rd, 2012
11:58 am

Alright, I’m going to lunch. Y’all have fun.

Butch Cassidy

February 23rd, 2012
11:58 am

Jimmy62 – “yet y’all are upset about legit PACs who are not breaking any laws.”

Who’s upset? If the SPs want to throw their money at a bunch of dysfunctional asshats, it’s their right to do so.

Yip, yip, yippee

February 23rd, 2012
11:58 am

(ir)Rational – Perception does not equal reality. And in the real, fact-based world that I live in – as opposed to the magic bubble Regressives have created for themselves where up is down, left is right and Obama is a marxist socialist anarchist Kenyan Muslim anti-Christian community organizing stock market loving anti-capitalist Jew hater – it would be impossible to argue that the Democrats have nearly as many crazies in their party as do the Regressive Party.

Brosephus™ - Browning America Since 1973

February 23rd, 2012
11:59 am

Well if they don’t like this group they can always stick with the proven loser who has presided over the single worst economic recovery since the Great Depression.

Would you rather us go through a slow, steady recovery built upon something solid or see another “jobless recovery” a.k.a. bubble inflated only to screw us over down the road again? I, for one, am tired of the bubble economy. If it takes a 10 year recovery to build our economic foundation on something solid, I’ll have no problem waiting it out.

Butch Cassidy

February 23rd, 2012
11:59 am

JohnnyReb – “and the Right is dysfunctional?”

Why don’t you ask them, they seem to bitch more than anybody about the current batch of candidates.

ByteMe

February 23rd, 2012
11:59 am

Obama stepped in it waste high with the Catholic birth control fiasco trampling the Constitution along the way

Already pointed out many times that his numbers with women are through the roof because of it and the SC has already affirmed his position more than once. It’s you who is out in the wilderness on this one.

USinUK

February 23rd, 2012
12:00 pm

“Obama stepped in it waste high with the Catholic birth control fiasco trampling the Constitution along the way”

:lol:

the President solidified the public’s support of birth control and women’s health – with the support of the Supremes … so Constitutional violation??? not quite.

RF

February 23rd, 2012
12:00 pm

johnnyreb: the right was first to vote for laws requiring religious organizations to offer birth control coverage in insurance. IOWA passed one of the first laws requiring, and heck even Mike Huckabee himself as governor of Arkansas signed such a law. Check your facts- the president only took a position that many of his critics had taken years ago. If the constitution was “trampled” it was done by conservative leaders over the last ten years when they passed state laws requiring contraceptive coverage in insurance.

JohnnyReb

February 23rd, 2012
12:00 pm

Finn – there will only be a small carrying charge for the crying towels for people as you in November. If Obama wins, it won’t be a landslide.

JOE COOL

February 23rd, 2012
12:00 pm

“Obama won the last election with tons of money bundled by Tony Rezko”

AHHHH yes, the Rezko card. The Soros card in 3,2,1……..

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 23rd, 2012
12:01 pm

The US is heading in the right direction is up 12 points since November?

Yeah, November will be a Republican blood bath. Good thing they already have a lot of red in their logo – the stains won’t show.

ByteMe

February 23rd, 2012
12:02 pm

The Soros card in 3,2,1……..

Didn’t know this about him, but Soros has given millions to foster democracy in the eastern European formerly communist countries.

Brosephus™ - Browning America Since 1973

February 23rd, 2012
12:02 pm

How do you yuts put it – it sucks to be a Democrat?

Actually, in today’s time, it sucks to be tied to either party’s ideology as they’re both worth less than two week old dried up dog sh*t. That’s just my opinion though. It doesn’t seem like either party wants to make the hard decisions that we need to correct things. Yet, they’d rather blame each other for crap and further stall things, which is only making things worse.

Butch Cassidy

February 23rd, 2012
12:02 pm

JOE COOL – ““Obama won the last election with tons of money bundled by Tony Rezko”

Yes, but only when he wasn’t “palling around” with terrorists. :)

JohnnyReb

February 23rd, 2012
12:02 pm

Come on SCOTUS on Obamacare. Come on November. I can’t wait to see who is dillusional. And, the contraceptive issue is not over just because in Progressive minds it is.

JOE COOL

February 23rd, 2012
12:03 pm

“yet y’all are upset about legit PACs who are not breaking any laws.”

NOPE, just note it goes both ways. If the Obama admin raised like 600 plus million with no Super Pac last time, what kind of monies do you think he will do now that he has one?

RF

February 23rd, 2012
12:03 pm

“with the support of the Supremes”

USinUK: sorry, I just had a flash of sequined dresses and bouffant hairdo’s in the background. Now if the prez had had that when he was singing at the blues celebration, that would have a good show!!

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 23rd, 2012
12:04 pm

Johnny Reb is living in a lah-lah land similar to Romney. Who needs drugs?

Butch Cassidy

February 23rd, 2012
12:05 pm

JohnnyReb – “And, the contraceptive issue is not over just because in Progressive minds it is.”

Wait, only yesterday on this very blog, your team accused the “Progressives” of manufacturing the contraceptive flap as a distraction from the real issues. Now, it’s suddenly not going to go away except in the mind of the Progressives? Geebus, no wonder you love Romney!

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

February 23rd, 2012
12:06 pm

Come November 7th we are laying out the Sharia Law and taking yer guns.

JOE COOL

February 23rd, 2012
12:06 pm

“Yes, but only when he wasn’t “palling around” with terrorists”

You mean the one who wrote his 1st book….lol. :-)

Butch Cassidy

February 23rd, 2012
12:06 pm

Finn – “Come November 7th we are laying out the Sharia Law and taking yer guns.”

You left out the part about impregnating their daughters and then forcing them to get abortions.

Thulsa Doom

February 23rd, 2012
12:07 pm

ByteMe,

Facts is facts ma’am. Fact of the matter is that its the single worst economic recovery since the great depression. I’m sorry if you don’t like the facts with them being facts and all. But it is what it is ma’am. Own up to the economy. Debbie Wasserman does.