Santorum a symptom of the GOP’s very deep ills
For those who don’t have video access, here’s what Rick Santorum has to say in the interview above:
“In the Netherlands, people wear different bracelets if they are elderly. And the bracelet is: ‘Do not euthanize me.’ Because they have voluntary euthanasia in the Netherlands but half of the people who are euthanized — 10 percent of all deaths in the Netherlands — half of those people are euthanized involuntarily at hospitals because they are older and sick. And so elderly people in the Netherlands don’t go to the hospital. They go to another country, because they are afraid, because of budget purposes, they will not come out of that hospital if they go in there with sickness.”
A few quick points:
1.) The remarks above come from the frontrunner for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, a man who in late February is still leading the race by some 10 percentage points nationwide.
2.) This statement was made not five years ago or 10 years ago, but earlier this month.
3.) Not a shred of what Santorum says is true. There are no such bracelets in the Netherlands. They exist only in the same reality in which green men from Mars exist, and in fact the Dutch press is laughing at Santorum’s claim that “we in the Netherlands delight in murder of the elderly.”
While the Netherlands does have a euthanasia law, a total of 3,136 terminally ill people took advantage of that option in 2010, a far cry from Santorum’s claim of 10 percent of all deaths in that nation.
Under Dutch law, the attending physician must certify in writing that the patient has made “a voluntary and carefully considered request” to die. The physician must also certify that the patient is undergoing unbearable suffering and that the patient’s condition is terminal, with no hope of recovery. As Glenn Kessler of the Washington Post further notes, “the patient must voluntarily and repeatedly request the procedure, and another doctor must provide a written opinion agreeing with the diagnosis. After the death, a commission made up of a doctor, a jurist and an ethical expert also are required to verify that the requirements for euthanasia have been met.”
Say what you choose about the merits of euthanasia. Feel free to debate it. But Santorum’s claims that half of euthanasia deaths in the Netherlands are involuntary — i.e., outright murder — and that senior citizens are terrified of going into the hospital lest they be killed in order to save on health care costs are absolutely ludicrous. It is ignorant fear-mongering, and as the gasps and moans on the tape reveal, people swallow it.
4.) Did I mention that this man leads in every national poll for the Republican presidential nomination? As a Dutch writer notes, “It would be laughable if not for the fact that Santorum is still very much in the race for the Republican nomination against Barack Obama for the presidency of the most powerful country in the world.”
Look, every party has its Maxine Waters and, to a lesser degree, its Dennis Kuciniches. However, Waters did not just win three presidential primaries, as Santorum has. When Kucinich ran for president in 2008, he got all of 1.35 percent of the vote in New Hampshire’s Democratic primary and then dropped out.
I honestly find it depressing that a major American political party has come to a state of affairs verging on collective madness. It’s obviously not a healthy sign for the Republican Party, but it’s also bad for the Democrats, who need a sane and vigorous opposition to keep them honest. Most of all, it’s bad for our country and bodes poorly for its future. I know for a fact that there are millions of very sane, decent Republicans in this country; I just wish they would begin to speak up and take their party back.
– Jay Bookman
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moonbat betty
February 22nd, 2012
9:04 pm
Never heard of her dim.
But sure, whatever you want it to be.
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
9:04 pm
“Then start googling off the information in that report and it is amazing what one can learn……”
Interesting, md. I was unaware that euthanasia was being practiced in the Netherlands and agree that there is at least some basis in reality for Santorum’s statements, however distorted they may have been. It still doesn’t let him off the hook, in my book though. A president, among other things, really needs to get his facts as straight as possible. Because they form part of the criterion for making decisions.
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
9:04 pm
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/news/?subsec=7&id=1028&v=pr
DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
9:05 pm
Towncrier – I generally don’t look too hard at a person’s outside shell, I’ve found that the ugliest person can become beautiful when they open their mouths to speak.
Then there’s Rick Sanitarium………
bman: debbiedocook .. .. have you seen his high school picture
Nope – I’m thinking it looks a lot like this.
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
9:06 pm
Santorum is no dummy
Like him even if I don’t like some ofhis politics
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
9:06 pm
http://www.witn.com/politics/headlines/110335344.html
Midori
February 22nd, 2012
9:07 pm
Too bad, t-i-h-s
perhaps you need to broaden your horizons?
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
9:07 pm
Both
Lemme know if said earmarks mentioned actually passed
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
9:09 pm
Jm(Boy)
No you let me know……..
Peace
Thulsa Doom
February 22nd, 2012
9:10 pm
Jay
February 22nd, 2012
6:36 pm
“Why did the credit card companies raise rates?
For the same reason that dogs lick themselves,
Because they could.”
When the facts just aint on your side resort to hyperbole and emotional rhetoric. Fact is that opponents of the credit card legislation a couple years back told us exactly what would happen if they passed this populist piece of legislation- credit card companies and banks would have to raise rates on all the good customers to compensate for the added risk and premium that they used to put on the appropriately poor paying bad customers.
Just another example of the law of unintended consequences and govt screwing things up even worse with well intentioned legislation. All they did was make things worse for the people who play by the rules. But don’t let that get in the way of good hyperbole and analogies of dogs licking themselves.
moonbat betty
February 22nd, 2012
9:11 pm
dim, I tawt you were progressive and wanted to move outta the 50’s?
bman
February 22nd, 2012
9:13 pm
Debbiedocook .. .. close.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/05/rick-santorums-tragic-yearbook-photo/239515/
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
9:13 pm
“FDR was a dedicated Christian. So was Truman, Carter ,Reagan, Nixon, JFK, both Bushes…. so what’s the big deal with Santorum?”
Don’t confuse nominal with true Christianity: by their fruits you will know them. Nixon and JFK can hardly be called dedicated Christians (I don’t know about the others). Santorum seems so, but I think at this point in our national history it is not important to respect the views of those who are not. The US is not, nor has it ever been, a theocracy. You can work to implement biblical principles in government without evoking the Bible, simply because they work. An atheist can do that and would, in my view, obtain very good results (as I think many already have).
md
February 22nd, 2012
9:14 pm
“A president, among other things, really needs to get his facts as straight as possible. Because they form part of the criterion for making decisions.”
All of which I disclosed earlier……he’s not my guy, but the misinfo of the misinfo needed to be brought to light.
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
9:14 pm
Both
Yep some earmarks still got through
But earmarks are way down. Good job R’s
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/appropriations/112059-gop-moratorium-leads-to-drop-in-2011-earmark-spending
The amount of earmarked money is down by roughly 40 percent in three 2011 appropriations bills in the House compared to last year’s bills, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Taxpayers for Common Sense.
Midori
February 22nd, 2012
9:15 pm
you are bound and determined to show your ignorance, aren’t you?
i’m gone now – you certainly don’t need my help.
night t-i-h-s
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
9:16 pm
Heck
I prefer mitt
But there’s a part of me that says any of these guys would be better than Obama……
Bruno
February 22nd, 2012
9:19 pm
I really don’t care if Santorum believes that the Devil is the main source of America’s problems. I really don’t think that mainstream America gives a damn either.
When asked directly about his views on contraception and government, Santorum claimed that he would be a vocal advocate for his beliefs, but wouldn’t bring the force of government in to back him up. I’m not sure I trust his answer, but know that one person can’t change the law of the land on their own.
As stated above, all of the candidates are presenting well tonight, even Ron Paul. If one used the Bookman blog for their only source of info, it would be easy to think that all hope is lost for the Repubs.
DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
9:19 pm
Churchgoing among the white working class has declined, eroding the social capital that organized religion once provided
Your comment reminded me of something….
A few months back this black female sociologist, (cana’t remember her name) did a piece in Essence called (paraphrased) “How The Black Church is Keeping Black Women Single”.
In it she outlined how there are 10 women to 2 men involved in black churches and how it’s the female population that keeps the churches afloat and how if all those women were to marry “non christian men”; the black church would go bankrupt. The church fills their head with stuff like “Wait for the right christian man that god chooses for you” and “Being unevenly yoked”; to keep the women bound to the church and paying tithes.
Ahywhoooo — your comment triggered a “Debbie” moment. Sorry.
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
9:19 pm
“Towncrier – I generally don’t look too hard at a person’s outside shell, I’ve found that the ugliest person can become beautiful when they open their mouths to speak. ”
Except those you personally detest? BTW, both Jesus and Plato were apparently unattractive men (we already know Lincoln was)
rivercard
February 22nd, 2012
9:20 pm
md I read your link and I am not convinced that there is any rational basis for fear of the state or docs euthanizing the unwilling elderly or significant occurrence. Is it a complicated issue that deserves some discussion? Of course. But just like late term abortions, I haven’t seen any evidence of and don’t believe that people are out there doing it indiscriminately.
Here is a link to a book discussing this study and others. ( I need link lessons)
Google the following and you can read part of his book
Euthanasia in the Netherlands: the policy and practice of mercy killing
By Raphael Cohen-Almagor
moonbat betty
February 22nd, 2012
9:20 pm
OK, chicken t-i-h-s.
nite nite.
ROTFL
ld
February 22nd, 2012
9:21 pm
prefer Dennis; but then I’d prefer to have a root canal than vote for Santorum.
From some of his recent statements, Santorum seems to have let a few relatively minor wins go to his head and suddenly believes he’s above critical scrutiny.
Santorum seeks to be a ‘pied piper’ leading a nation of idiots toward theocracy.
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
9:21 pm
“A few months back this black female sociologist, (cana’t remember her name) did a piece in Essence called (paraphrased) “How The Black Church is Keeping Black Women Single”.
Interesting…I need to take a look at that. Thanks for the tip.
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
9:22 pm
@Jm
February 22nd, 2012
9:06 pm
Santorum is no dummy
Like him even if I don’t like some of his politics
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The bible says:
“No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other.
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
9:24 pm
Oh
“some got through”… This from a brainwashed “fill in the blank” who told me to shut up
WOWWWWWW
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Have a great night……………….
DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
9:24 pm
bman – OMG!! He took ugly to new heights!!
Mick
February 22nd, 2012
9:24 pm
Jay
Gotta get rumsfieldian here; You go into the presidential election year with the party you have, not the one you wish you had. I imagine that the republicans will figure it out and give themselves romney. It’s the smart move, although the movers and shakers will be needing some overtime. Santorum is burnin for a flameout, he’s just the man to do it…
Thulsa Doom
February 22nd, 2012
9:27 pm
Moonbat,
I wondered when someone was gonna throw the chicken in there. Damn that was funny. BOOM!
Keep Up--Te gusta losing numb nutz?
February 22nd, 2012
9:27 pm
Midori: you are bound and determined to show your ignorance, aren’t you?
Many of our right wingnuts are doomed to this!
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
9:28 pm
Jm
I knew you were WRONG from the start……..
With that said, earmarks when looking at the total budget are minuscule and make for more political banter than budget reality………
I just wish it was mandatory for all “earmarks” to be made public with names, dates, amount and what it was for………. That BS is buried so far into a bill and tacked on at the last minute………….
DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
9:28 pm
Towncrier: Except those you personally detest?
Of course!!
BTW, both Jesus and Plato were apparently unattractive
But their words made them beautiful….
TaxPayer
February 22nd, 2012
9:29 pm
“YOU, Mitt, gave H-e-a-l-t-h-c-a-r-e to the people while governor,” cried Santorum, as the audience collectively gasps.
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
9:29 pm
“But there’s a part of me that says any of these guys would be better than Obama……”
Romney, certainly. Santorum and Gingrich possibly. I doubt Paul would be, however. He would have too much power in the office and his stringent libertarians stances would be too radical in practice I think. He’d be a great opposing voice to have in you cabinet though, because he really does think out of the box and that is not always wrong. Indeed, it can be very good at times.
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
9:30 pm
@Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
9:21 pm
“A few months back this black female sociologist, (cana’t remember her name) did a piece in Essence called (paraphrased) “How The Black Church is Keeping Black Women Single”.
Interesting…I need to take a look at that. Thanks for the tip.
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Black women are single because they chose to be.
Black women are single because some of them WILL NOT SETTLE.
Some black women feel that they can do bad by themselves.
Some black women PREFER being single.
Some black women are doing well by themselves.
Some black women only need companionship when they want it not because they need it.
Some black women are too busy to deal with the BS.
Some black women calls the shots for themselves.
The Black Church has NOTHING TO DO with black women being single. THAT IS JUST ANOTHER LIE BEING PERPETRATED.
NEED I SAY MORE.
ld
February 22nd, 2012
9:30 pm
With, In God We Trust as our nation’s motto,
when the GOP religious right declares that it is determined to apply their commandment, ‘Thou shall not kill’ not just to women seeking reproductive freedom but ALSO TO THE ENTIRE NATION — AS A NATION – -as in the NATION ITSELF MUST NOT KILL, must turn the other cheek, no more death penalty, no more strongest military in the history of humanity no more bombs that might kill even one living child–THEN, I’ll believe their “faith” is real; until then, it’s all a power grab.
-their party would surely die because most of us, specifically including the non-gullible non-believers, ARE willing to fight and kill for individual liberty and equal right under law, but I’d finally believe in the sincerity of their faith..
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
9:30 pm
Good night to all………………….
Time to finish up watching the “Little Rascals” (Repub debate)
md
February 22nd, 2012
9:31 pm
“md I read your link and I am not convinced that there is any rational basis for fear of the state or docs euthanizing the unwilling elderly or significant occurrence.”
I think the rational basis occurs when one reads the study…..if I’m Dutch, and I read a few studies that say docs have put people under without permission, I might be a bit leery. We aren’t talking 1 or 2….the number was in the hundreds…….I think that would justify being a little afraid of going to the hospital if one was on the down hill side of life.
I read a few discussions on concern that docs were falsifying death certificates or needed a bed for another patient……I wouldn’t want to be the one in the bed.
moonbat betty
February 22nd, 2012
9:32 pm
Santorum would rather look bad and win than look good and lose.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw
ragnar danneskjold
February 22nd, 2012
9:32 pm
Looks like our leftist Constitutional scholars – you know, the ones who say the Constitution is a living breathing organism, and specifically not the rock hard foundation of this republic – have been wafting the vapors of the penumbra again. For the record there is no Constitutional “right to privacy,” certainly none with any meaningful limits. That is why they never cite to any Article.
Santorum is correct in his legal analysis: if there is a right to privacy that gives Constitutional sanction to homosexuality, the same provision gives sanction to statutory rape, incest, zoophilia, and polygamy. None of those is really an issue so far as I am concerned – I could not care less what leftists do in the privacy of their McMansions – but I credit Santorum for consistency in his analysis, and accuse our leftist friends of ad hoc jurisprudence. I say all of that knowing the existence of Griswald v Connecticut, a classic case of leftist activist judges making up language to fit their prejudices.
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
9:32 pm
The Obama foreign policy second guessing is a bit over the top
But O is weak
DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
9:33 pm
Towncrier- A good example is Morgan Freeman. I used to think he was pretty attractive, that is until I found out he’s a pederast. After that I can’t stand him, won’t spend a dime on anything even REMOTELY related to him getting richer, etc.
Only a very shallow person would judge on looks alone — i’m not that shallow.
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
9:34 pm
Agree amen Ron Paul
If you want to go to war, pony up for the declaration of war
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
9:35 pm
“For the record there is no Constitutional “right to privacy,” certainly none with any meaningful limits. That is why they never cite to any Article.”
Rd…parse through the discussion of the 9th Amendment I had with Jay and JHM downstairs. I agree with you.
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
9:36 pm
@DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
9:19 pm
DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
9:19 pm
Churchgoing among the white working class has declined, eroding the social capital that organized religion once provided
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Santorum quoted the AUTHOR CHARLES MURRAY during the dabate.
In his new book, “Coming Apart: The State of White America 1960-2010,”
Charles Murray said “Churchgoing among the white working class has declined, eroding the social capital that organized religion once provided.”
GOOGLE HIM
ld
February 22nd, 2012
9:36 pm
theybothsuch:
thanks for the Men @Work link
Now I’ll be humming, “it’s a mistake” til bedtime
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2012
9:37 pm
“For the record there is no Constitutional “right to privacy,” certainly none with any meaningful limits. That is why they never cite to any Article.”
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people
Gm
February 22nd, 2012
9:39 pm
Obama is weak, why thats why 10 of the top 10 terrorist are pushing up flowers now in the grave.
Once again Rep want to send the poor whether black, white, brown to die, and keep their rich friends safe, not one of these clowns would send their kids to die, now you know why Obama is leading in all polls.
Thulsa Doom
February 22nd, 2012
9:39 pm
“The church fills their head with stuff like “Wait for the right christian man that god chooses for you” and “Being unevenly yoked”; to keep the women bound to the church and paying tithes.”
Debbiedoright,
“Filling their heads with” waiting for the right Christian man? Is that indoctrination or some kind of brain washing to tell a woman to choose a good Christian man? And this sociologist thinks that its all in an effort to keep tythes paying women bound to the church? That makes no sense whatsoever- especially considering that a tythes paying married couple pays more in tythes than a single woman who is likely to be impoverished. Look at the census and at the poor households and you will find there is a striking correlation between poverty and single parent households.
Also I think the brothers need to know about all the nice single women at church. I used to go to the Buckhead church and was a member of their singles club. There were more women then men in that club and the only black guy was my buddy who brought me into the club. There were 3 black women there and they were hot, classy, and smart. Lotta nice women to be met at church and if the ration is 8-2 or whatever then some of the brothers need to get down to the local church.
DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
9:39 pm
The Black Church has NOTHING TO DO with black women being single. THAT IS JUST ANOTHER LIE BEING PERPETRATED.
NEED I SAY MORE.
Dude/Dudette(?) – It was just an article that I had read in Essence a few months back. Michael Baisden also had the author of the article on his show to follow up with the conversation.
Hey i’m a black woman too, I’m married, I didn’t settle, I married the man who was right for me.
I tell all my sister to look beyond the IBM (Ideal BLACK Man) and just find the IM4U (Ideal Man For You), no matter what color they come in.
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
9:40 pm
“Towncrier- A good example is Morgan Freeman. I used to think he was pretty attractive, that is until I found out he’s a pederast. After that I can’t stand him, won’t spend a dime on anything even REMOTELY related to him getting richer, etc.”
Thanks for that personal revelation. My point is simply this: looks (like race, gender and the like) can’t much be helped. Behavior can. We can fault people for their behavior, but not their race, gender or physical appearance. So, to me, looks never enter into consideration (and maybe also because I am not Brad Pitt
).
Joe COOL
February 22nd, 2012
9:40 pm
WAR is GOOD for REPUBLICANS!!!! They not sending their kids, their sending YOURS!
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
9:41 pm
@DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
9:33 pm
Towncrier- A good example is Morgan Freeman. I used to think he was pretty attractive, that is until I found out he’s a pederast. After that I can’t stand him, won’t spend a dime on anything even REMOTELY related to him getting richer, etc.
Only a very shallow person would judge on looks alone — i’m not that shallow.
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He’s a pederast.?
So is SANTORUM, ROMNEY, GINGRICH, PAUL AND GINGRICH.
ld
February 22nd, 2012
9:42 pm
just a thought but…
would the GOP–and right-wingers blogging here–accept that a “marriaj” is a civil union between any two consenting adults–w/equal rights as that of “marriage”?
Santorum’s logic fails. Rape is sex WITHOUT consent.
And homosexuality is not the same level as sex w/animals–animals cannot speak to decline.
md
February 22nd, 2012
9:43 pm
“Once again Rep want to send the poor whether black, white, brown to die, and keep their rich friends safe, not one of these clowns would send their kids to die, now you know why Obama is leading in all polls.”
Last I checked, we still have an all volunteer military……..knowing what the military may have to do, aren’t they sending themselves to die?
Thulsa Doom
February 22nd, 2012
9:43 pm
Morgan freeman a pederast? What the heck???
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
9:43 pm
@Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
9:40 pm
“Towncrier- A good example is Morgan Freeman. I used to think he was pretty attractive, that is until I found out he’s a pederast. After that I can’t stand him, won’t spend a dime on anything even REMOTELY related to him getting richer, etc.”
Thanks for that personal revelation. My point is simply this: looks (like race, gender and the like) can’t much be helped. Behavior can. We can fault people for their behavior, but not their race, gender or physical appearance. So, to me, looks never enter into consideration (and maybe also because I am not Brad Pitt ).
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I BET HALF THE PEOPLE ON THIS BLOG WOULD CRACK A MIRROR.
In plain english…………….I BET half of the people are UGLY ON THIS BLOG AND could not BUY A DATE.
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
9:44 pm
Yeah mitt
Good answer on NCLB
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
9:45 pm
“Hey i’m a black woman too, I’m married, I didn’t settle, I married the man who was right for me. I tell all my sister to look beyond the IBM (Ideal BLACK Man) and just find the IM4U (Ideal Man For You), no matter what color they come in.”
I think the article you cited probably has some truth to it, DDR, so I will look it up. The fact is, the Bible clearly says you should not be “unevenly yoked” and rightly so, for it is a recipe for disaster. Let me ask your opinion: why are so many young black men apparently irresponsible? Is it because they have no fathers in their lives? A lot of young white men are irresponsible as well, but probably for a different reason.
Gm
February 22nd, 2012
9:47 pm
Please when did Newt help Georgia win the Olympic games? wow, Obama was the gov in Georgia the last 15 years, thats why we are last in education, 5 in poverty, next to last in job creation
Wow its really the Government fault?
Thulsa Doom
February 22nd, 2012
9:49 pm
Damn. Just damn. Morgan freeman was one of my favorite actors. Then again this is from the enquirer. Then again the enquirer has broken some serious stories like the John Edwards mistress story.
The relationship between the 72-year-old actor with step-granddaughter E’Dena Hines, 27, began when she was a teen, the source told The ENQUIRER exclusively. The alleged affair not only contributed to his split from Myrna, his wife of 25 years, it also led to his breakup with his longtime mistress, former schoolteacher Mary Joyce Hays. E’Dena is the granddaughter of Morgan’s first wife, Jeanette Adair Bradshaw, and was raised by Morgan and Myrna “since she was a little girl,” the source told The ENQUIRER. “Myrna said E’dena told her that when she was a teenager, she and Morgan went to dinner at a friend’s house one evening. Both had been drinking, and when they returned home, Morgan attempted to have sex with her. They stopped just short of having intercourse,” the source, a close family insider, told The ENQUIRER. “E’Dena explained to Myrna that she stopped Morgan from going any further.” Myrna confronted Morgan, and he agreed to leave E’Dena alone – but unbeknownst to Myrna, the relationship continued for years, said the source. E’Dena has also been Morgan’s escort to several public events, including last summer’s premiere of the blockbuster Bat-flick hit, The Dark Knight. “Nobody thought anything of it, because she would be introduced as his ‘granddaughter.’ The family insider divulged. “It’s not technically incest, because they are not related by blood…[but] Morgan is trying desperately to keep his divorce out of open court so all the shameful facts won’t become public.”
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
9:49 pm
@DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
9:39 pm
The Black Church has NOTHING TO DO with black women being single. THAT IS JUST ANOTHER LIE BEING PERPETRATED.
Hey i’m a black woman too, I’m married, I didn’t settle, I married the man who was right for me.
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I am happy for ya!
But I stand by my comment.
“A LIE BEING PERPETRATED” to make money at the expense of black women.
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
9:49 pm
Morgan Freeman pederast??? WTF
Someone better back that up with some factual links
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
9:51 pm
@Thulsa Doom
February 22nd, 2012
9:49 pm
Damn. Just damn. Morgan freeman was one of my favorite actors. Then again this is from the enquirer. Then again the enquirer has broken some serious stories like the John Edwards mistress story.
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The Enquirer?
GIVE US A BREAK!
Keep Up--Te gusta losing numb nutz?
February 22nd, 2012
9:52 pm
oy vey…. suddenly Morgan Freeman is being accused by the same posters who still defend Cain ……but I am sure that somehow this is different.
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
9:53 pm
“Damn. Just damn. Morgan freeman was one of my favorite actors.”
Yeah…that refrain could be repeated with a lot of actors. I think Sean Penn turned out to be a pretty good actor, but…Same with many more. What can you do? I guess exercise your own boycott as you see fit.
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
9:53 pm
What is the biggest misconception the public has about the candidates?
That they were SANE.!
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
9:56 pm
If santorum becomes the nominee, I don’t ever ever ever hear again that money matters in elections from you liberals
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
9:56 pm
““A LIE BEING PERPETRATED” to make money at the expense of black women.”
I take it you are not a church-goer. The synopsis I read of the article seems indeed plausible (if not actually true).
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
9:58 pm
Want to ever hear again
Missing word in there
JKL2
February 22nd, 2012
10:00 pm
ld- would the GOP–and right-wingers blogging here–accept that a “marriaj” is a civil union between any two consenting adults–w/equal rights as that of “marriage”?
No. Marriage is designed for procreation and raising families. Untill you adapt the ability for one of the people in your civil union to change sexes, it’s not the same. (and if one could change, then it goes back to rule one of them still not being the same.)
Bruno
February 22nd, 2012
10:01 pm
Doom–Refresh my memory if you will. Wasn’t it Fred a while back who stated that he was in the home repair biz and got beat on a job out of a few thousand dollars?? If I recall correctly, Kamchak identified Keep as being an attorney who worked in that field. Does that ring a bell, or was it someone else??
JKL2
February 22nd, 2012
10:03 pm
md- knowing what the military may have to do, aren’t they sending themselves to die?
No. It’s the other guy’s job to die for their country.
md
February 22nd, 2012
10:03 pm
“oy vey…. suddenly Morgan Freeman is being accused by the same posters who still defend Cain ……but I am sure that somehow this is different.”
DDR? Who would of thunk it……
DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
10:04 pm
Morgan Freeman may have robbed his ex-wife’s daughter’s cradle. The National Enquirer alleges that the 72-year-old actor has been romantically involved with his 27-year-old step-granddaughter, E’Dena Hines, for as long as a decade.
He’s currently mired in a messy divorce with his now-estranged wife of 25 years, costume designer Myrna Colley-Lee, and may go public with his unconventional relationship when the smoke clears.
E’Dena is the granddaughter of Jeanette Adair Bradshaw, Morgan’s first wife, but she was raised by Morgan and Myrna since she was a small child. Morgan adopted E’Dena’s mother, Deena, who is Jeanette’s biological daughter.
“Myrna said E’Dena told her that when she was a teenager, she and Morgan went to dinner at a friend’s house one evening. Both had been drinking, and when they returned home, Morgan attempted to have sex with her. They stopped just short of having intercourse,” a family insider told The Enquirer.
Before you scorn the story (It’s old and it’s already been proven to be true) remember the Equirer broke the news about John Edwards
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
10:04 pm
@Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
9:56 pm
““A LIE BEING PERPETRATED” to make money at the expense of black women.”
I take it you are not a church-goer. The synopsis I read of the article seems indeed plausible (if not actually true).
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“A lie told often enough becomes the truth”.
“Its not a lie if you believe it.”
Bruno
February 22nd, 2012
10:06 pm
Just passing on some “rumors” I heard, but I believe the military is training right now for a confrontation with Iran. It may just be routine training, but there may be more behind the scenes than we know about.
md
February 22nd, 2012
10:06 pm
“No. It’s the other guy’s job to die for their country.”
Preferably……..but guys that post that crap tick me off. gm and Joe cool need to understand the concept of choices…..
DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
10:07 pm
OK so Freeman isn’t a pederast — but he’s a b@$^astard and a child molester….
$Here’s a couple of links:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/10/edena-hines-morgan-freema_n_229070.html
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.hollyscoop.com/morgan-freeman/morgan-freeman-to-marry-step-granddaughter.html&sa=U&ei=4KxFT6L7IsS9gAey_Z2VBA&ved=0CDcQFjAL&usg=AFQjCNFQRPUib3DUK1-lJQuP9mJJcCjSPw
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
10:07 pm
@DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
10:04 pm
Before you scorn the story (It’s old and it’s already been proven to be true) remember the Equirer broke the news about John Edwards
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The Enquirer?
Intelligent reading?
A waste of a tree!
I can find more intelligent sources than the enquirer.
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
10:10 pm
““Its not a lie if you believe it.”
I guess it’s a lie, however, when a poster using a ridiculous moniker says that it is without any proof.
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
10:10 pm
@DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
10:07 pm
OK so Freeman isn’t a pederast — but he’s a b@$^astard and a child molester….
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Are you people suffering from autism?
Can you stay on topic? Santorum a symptom of the GOP’s very deep ills
That is what is WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY.
No one can focus on the important things.
THIS AIN’T ABOUT MORGAN FREEMAN.
GOOD LORD!!!
AmVet - Stop the Phallacy Party.
February 22nd, 2012
10:10 pm
Just wondering, who won tonight?
Which one’s Pink? ~Thomas Jefferson
md
February 22nd, 2012
10:10 pm
Bruno…after the recent comments from the IAEA yesterday, we better be training for that confrontation….Israel is going to do what Israel needs to do and we are right smack in the middle of it. With 2 carrier groups already there, I can see Iran targeting us in response…..then all hell breaks loose.
Wonder if gm would notice who the President would be that sends our kids in to die?
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2012
10:12 pm
“No. Marriage is designed for procreation and raising families”
got proof of that? It actually isn’t. It is, and was, intended to control the inheritence of property…and to protect the wife and children legally. It has nothing to do with procreation. Or are you REALLY advocating that those who are sterile, or past child bearing age should be barred from marrying?
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
10:12 pm
@Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
10:10 pm
““Its not a lie if you believe it.”
I guess it’s a lie, however, when a poster using a ridiculous moniker says that it is without any proof.
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CAN YOU PEOPLE STAY ON TOPIC.
When did the conversation turn to Morgan Freeman.
I thought we were discussing Santorum.
That is why people like Santorum can get away with his insanity because of people like you who can’t not STAY FOCUSED.
THE TRAIN IS LEAVING THE STATION WITHOUT YOU.
Keep Up--Te gusta losing numb nutz?
February 22nd, 2012
10:14 pm
bruno, if you are looking for an attorney, you might try a more direct approach and ask.
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2012
10:14 pm
“Just passing on some “rumors” I heard, but I believe the military is training right now for a confrontation with Iran”
rumor? More like standard operating procedure. The armed services are in the job of being prepared for any eventuality. They would be remiss in their jobs if they DIDN’T prepare for that possiblity.
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
10:15 pm
“Its not a lie if you believe it.”
And of course there is no reason on earth to suppose the hollywood elite were ever guilty of abhorrent or surprising behavior.
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
10:16 pm
“THE TRAIN IS LEAVING THE STATION WITHOUT YOU.”
getalife, get a better alternative moniker.
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
10:17 pm
“It has nothing to do with procreation.”
Patently false. Why make such inane statements. Is it all about procreation? Of course not. But that is a long way from saying it has nothing to do with it.
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
10:20 pm
Town crier. Good call
JKL2
February 22nd, 2012
10:21 pm
joe cool- They not sending their kids, their sending YOURS!
Did you miss the part about where the military is overwhelmingly Republican? Are you assuming that only poor kids join the military and since obama is only focused on the votes of poor people, it’s only Democrats who are joining now.
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
10:22 pm
Dear God,
We need you down here on this earth.
People have GONE MAD.
People are INSANE.
People are EVIL.
People are LIARS.
People are RACISTS.
People have no COMPASSION.
People are SELFISH.
People are LOVERS OF THEMSELVES.
The Republicans are leading the pack.
ARE WE LIVING IN OUR LAST DAYS LORD?
Hurry up………………….The world is self destructing with insanity.
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
10:23 pm
@Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
10:16 pm
“THE TRAIN IS LEAVING THE STATION WITHOUT YOU.”
getalife, get a better alternative moniker.
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YOU NEED JESUS.
Good night
DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
10:23 pm
Oops You beat me to it Doom — good looking out!!
And this sociologist thinks that its all in an effort to keep tythes paying women bound to the church? That makes no sense whatsoever- especially considering that a tythes paying married couple pays more in tythes than a single woman who is likely to be impoverished
(A) It was just an article I read — nothing scientific to back up this woman’s claim; just her opinion.
(B) The richest self made woman in America is Oprah Winfrey. She’s black and single. Single (childless) Black Women have more disposable income than a married couple would EVER have.
Republican — I’m now sorry I mentioned that article!! I didn’t mean to start a firestorm, it was just that a comment that was posted jogged my memory.
Towncrier: DDR, so I will look it up. The fact is, the Bible clearly says you should not be “unevenly yoked” and rightly so, for it is a recipe for disaster. Let me ask your opinion: why are so many young black men apparently irresponsible? Is it because they have no fathers in their lives?
I think the problem is multifaceted. You can blame the father’s not being in the home BUT you can also blame the Uncles, grandfathers, cousins, brothers, etc. not stepping up and taking the father’s place.
You can blame the woman for not putting the same restrictions on their sons that they put on their daughters.
You can blame that “brother” who doesn’t volunteer in Big Brothers or who doesn’t mentor a child or who doesn’t come back into that neighborhood he fought so hard to get out of to help the next generation coming up.
When anyone, not just the black youth, doesn’t have the right role model to show him what a REAL man is and how a REAL man acts, you get a bunch of confused kid trying to make their way on their own.
Thulsa Doom
February 22nd, 2012
10:24 pm
Regarding Morgan Freeman it wasn’t me who made the charge that he was a pederast. Debbiedoright stated that. I was aghast and just looked it up to see if it was true or not.
If you have a problem with it take it up with Debbie seeing as how she seems to be more familiar with the charge against Freeman than myself.
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
10:25 pm
“People have GONE MAD….”
People on blogs have resorted to spouting nonsense and adding nothing of value to any discussion.
Bruno
February 22nd, 2012
10:26 pm
bruno, if you are looking for an attorney, you might try a more direct approach and ask.
Sorry, no work for you, Counselor. Just trying to cross-check Fred’s claim of being independently wealthy.
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
10:27 pm
“When anyone, not just the black youth, doesn’t have the right role model to show him what a REAL man is and how a REAL man acts, you get a bunch of confused kid trying to make their way on their own.”
Amen. I agree totally.