Santorum a symptom of the GOP’s very deep ills
For those who don’t have video access, here’s what Rick Santorum has to say in the interview above:
“In the Netherlands, people wear different bracelets if they are elderly. And the bracelet is: ‘Do not euthanize me.’ Because they have voluntary euthanasia in the Netherlands but half of the people who are euthanized — 10 percent of all deaths in the Netherlands — half of those people are euthanized involuntarily at hospitals because they are older and sick. And so elderly people in the Netherlands don’t go to the hospital. They go to another country, because they are afraid, because of budget purposes, they will not come out of that hospital if they go in there with sickness.”
A few quick points:
1.) The remarks above come from the frontrunner for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, a man who in late February is still leading the race by some 10 percentage points nationwide.
2.) This statement was made not five years ago or 10 years ago, but earlier this month.
3.) Not a shred of what Santorum says is true. There are no such bracelets in the Netherlands. They exist only in the same reality in which green men from Mars exist, and in fact the Dutch press is laughing at Santorum’s claim that “we in the Netherlands delight in murder of the elderly.”
While the Netherlands does have a euthanasia law, a total of 3,136 terminally ill people took advantage of that option in 2010, a far cry from Santorum’s claim of 10 percent of all deaths in that nation.
Under Dutch law, the attending physician must certify in writing that the patient has made “a voluntary and carefully considered request” to die. The physician must also certify that the patient is undergoing unbearable suffering and that the patient’s condition is terminal, with no hope of recovery. As Glenn Kessler of the Washington Post further notes, “the patient must voluntarily and repeatedly request the procedure, and another doctor must provide a written opinion agreeing with the diagnosis. After the death, a commission made up of a doctor, a jurist and an ethical expert also are required to verify that the requirements for euthanasia have been met.”
Say what you choose about the merits of euthanasia. Feel free to debate it. But Santorum’s claims that half of euthanasia deaths in the Netherlands are involuntary — i.e., outright murder — and that senior citizens are terrified of going into the hospital lest they be killed in order to save on health care costs are absolutely ludicrous. It is ignorant fear-mongering, and as the gasps and moans on the tape reveal, people swallow it.
4.) Did I mention that this man leads in every national poll for the Republican presidential nomination? As a Dutch writer notes, “It would be laughable if not for the fact that Santorum is still very much in the race for the Republican nomination against Barack Obama for the presidency of the most powerful country in the world.”
Look, every party has its Maxine Waters and, to a lesser degree, its Dennis Kuciniches. However, Waters did not just win three presidential primaries, as Santorum has. When Kucinich ran for president in 2008, he got all of 1.35 percent of the vote in New Hampshire’s Democratic primary and then dropped out.
I honestly find it depressing that a major American political party has come to a state of affairs verging on collective madness. It’s obviously not a healthy sign for the Republican Party, but it’s also bad for the Democrats, who need a sane and vigorous opposition to keep them honest. Most of all, it’s bad for our country and bodes poorly for its future. I know for a fact that there are millions of very sane, decent Republicans in this country; I just wish they would begin to speak up and take their party back.
– Jay Bookman
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md
February 22nd, 2012
8:05 pm
“The man misspoke horribly. He does it regularly. He is a consummate BSer. He knows just enough to get things sort of, kind of, maybe, possibly, almost right. But he is so undisciplined he just can’t pay attention to detail, because that works against his pandering, hyperbolic rhetoric and fear mongering.”
Well Am, that’s a start….at least you said “misspoke”. Now, had he said “wallet card” instead of “bracelet” and gotten the percentages exactly right (it was 7%), I’m guessing Jay doesn’t even print this edition of “who wants to believe everything I print”.
TaxPayer
February 22nd, 2012
8:05 pm
Actually, one of my first links had the journal that included the number euthanized involuntarily…..
I then posted the quote from the survey in which the Dutch admitted to being afraid to go to the hospital along with the organization that prints wallet cards for people that don’t want to be involuntarily euthanized……
It’s all there……have at it.
Or, using the md decoder ring, none of it was there, the ten percent involuntarily euthanized or the braclets. Got it.
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
8:06 pm
Sinkwich…………. Please vote for Santorum. The RNC is hoping you don’t but who cares what they think. Be YOUR own man
“(AP) taped on April 7, 2003, and published April 20, 2003, Santorum stated that he believed mutually consenting adults do not have a constitutional right to privacy with respect to sexual acts. Santorum described the ability to regulate consensual homosexual acts as comparable to the states’ ability to regulate other consensual and non-consensual sexual behavior, such as adultery, polygamy, child molestation, incest, sodomy, and bestiality, whose decriminalization he believed would threaten society and the family, as they are not monogamous and heterosexual.”
AmVet - Stop the Phallacy Party.
February 22nd, 2012
8:06 pm
bman, you should have been around at Luckovich’s when Midori would go toe to toe with Andy, @ @, Dusty, RW and Buy Danish concurrently and all by herself.
I always considered that a fair fight!
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:06 pm
Better national anthem than trashy Roseanne barr’s version
DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
8:06 pm
AmVet – Stop the Phallacy Party
OMG AmVet!! I fell out the chair when I read that!!!
DogGone: And I’m trying to figure out if it’s the hoops that wear high heels, or the lions!
Depends on how kinky he is…..
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 22nd, 2012
8:06 pm
They ain’t Daily Kos, Arnold Einstein…
Well, I hate to correct a fellow blogger, but it’s Norman Einstein. At least this librul can get the guy’s name right.
Carry on everybody. It’s time for the debate.
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
8:08 pm
“md, if I have to write a retraction, I have to know what I’m retracting”
Would you ever be required to write a retraction in an opinion column, Jay? Would the AJC require it or your own conscience?
kayaker 71
February 22nd, 2012
8:08 pm
A third Santorum rant in two days. So now social issues are more important than a failing economy, no leadership on the international scene, record debt, lies, corruption…. anything that the community organizer says is OK because that nut Santorum really believes in his Catholic convictions. Now lets prey on women and convince all of them that Santorum doesn’t really care about them. That sonogram picture a couple of days ago still sticks in my mind,,,, that probe that Republicans are going to stick up your vagina when you get an abortion. Bookman, you have really gone to a new low with that picture. You said that It “is inserted “deeply” into the vagina, if I remember the quote just right. Wonder if it feels any better than what was inserted “deeply” to cause the problem in the first place. You have nothing else. GDP equals our debt or better. Unemployment is in the tank as well as home foreclosures. Millions of Americans have just quit looking. And we are concentrating on some probe inserted into some woman’s vagina. If it weren’t so damn ridiculous, it would be funny.
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
8:09 pm
Sinkwich’s theme song when he has to get into “fight or flight” mode to defend his assertions………………..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Pq0xYr3L4
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:09 pm
Silly Gingrich
Two fifty gingy
AmVet - Stop the Phallacy Party.
February 22nd, 2012
8:10 pm
I don’t know, Bro.
Lions in high heels could be kind of a turn on.
But, really I’m just into humans. Growl….
http://fashion.sinaimg.cn/cr/2012/0202/1298611931.jpg
Midori
February 22nd, 2012
8:10 pm
bman — you’ve got to let go…..
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
8:11 pm
Amvet
Dont be silly
Its COUGARS in heels not lions
md
February 22nd, 2012
8:12 pm
“In a Palinesque manner, Santorum seems to have misstated some of the material facts of the matter, and his timeline may be off, but the essence of his concern is rooted in reality as you have documented, md.”
Personally, it sounds like he re-told the story from a story vs sitting down and doing his homework too….but yeh, the basic facts are there……but folks will poo poo them because they don’t jive with their pre-conceived notions dictated by the lead cheerleader.
bman
February 22nd, 2012
8:12 pm
i think Santorum has done well in the last few weeks BECAUSE of no debates. He’s a very awkward looking human being.
Bruno
February 22nd, 2012
8:12 pm
And that number was …. 0.7 percent, back in the mid-90s?
Applying that number to the US, we had 2,437,163 deaths in 2009. That would mean “only” 17,060 would have been euthanized involuntarily at the 0.7 % rate. Sounds like a news story to me.
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:12 pm
Yeah Romney good answer
bman
February 22nd, 2012
8:12 pm
Midori haha
AmVet - Stop the Phallacy Party.
February 22nd, 2012
8:14 pm
They BOTH suck, that’s right! Silly me.
I do love cougar meat…(grin)
For my favorite…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39Xf6XTgohA
josef
February 22nd, 2012
8:14 pm
Towncrier
“All I can say is it’s a good thing you didn’t grow up among the Dixiecrats in the south during the 40s and 50s.”
That’s precisely what overtook the South in the 1950s and ’60s…collective madness…it isn’t the first, and won’t be the last, time and place such madness takes over. That’s why this recent series
of forays into absolute lunacy with the cast of nightmare characters from an insane asylum scares the living daylights out of me…
md
February 22nd, 2012
8:15 pm
“Please do enlighten me as to how…”
Folks were being charged higher rates subject to worthiness…..no different than one going to the car dealer and getting a higher rate because their credit sucked….but instead of targeting what cc corps can do with just those folks, the misfits rewrote the entire handbook so that the ones not paying the bills could only be charged a set amount…….which means you and I get to pay what they aren’t.
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:15 pm
Grrrrrrrrrr
TaxPayer
February 22nd, 2012
8:16 pm
Ron Paul – Delegate Hunter. A new series set to air immediately following Sarah Palin’s outdoor adventure. I wonder what he uses for bait.
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
8:17 pm
AmVet
Great tune no doubt
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2012
8:17 pm
“Applying that number to the US, we had 2,437,163 deaths in 2009. That would mean “only” 17,060 would have been euthanized involuntarily at the 0.7 % rate. Sounds like a news story to me”
Heck, go whole hog! Santorum said 10%. Never mind that it’s not about the US, it’s about Holland. So exercise your amazing math skills and tell us what it WOULD BE IF it was the US.
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:17 pm
Silly Gingrich answer
Hamilton never envisioned a federal budget at 25% of GDP so needing jobs to balance the budget never entered into the equation
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
8:17 pm
““(AP) taped on April 7, 2003, and published April 20, 2003, Santorum stated that he believed mutually consenting adults do not have a constitutional right to privacy with respect to sexual acts. Santorum described the ability to regulate consensual homosexual acts as comparable to the states’ ability to regulate other consensual and non-consensual sexual behavior, such as adultery, polygamy, child molestation, incest, sodomy, and bestiality, whose decriminalization he believed would threaten society and the family, as they are not monogamous and heterosexual.”
He does have a point there, in my view. It is all about drawing lines. Ideally you want all or nothing (all sex is allowed or none). But that is impossible, so people will draw lines where they see fit. A homosexual may want to exclude bestiality or polygamy, for instance. I consider homosexuality (along with adultery, bestiality and the like) wrong on religious grounds – on the theory that if a certain and best order of things was established by a being with enough wisdom and power to create the universe and life as we know it, then a perversion of that order is wrong. But that also includes theft, murder, lying, and a host of other things. Homosexuality is not a special kind of “sin” – it is but one of many.
md
February 22nd, 2012
8:18 pm
“but folks will poo poo them because they don’t jive with their pre-conceived notions dictated by the lead cheerleader.”
As a certain 8:05 shows evidence of……
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:19 pm
I like Ron Paul
He just doesn’t have “it”
Jay
February 22nd, 2012
8:19 pm
Crier, both.
And I have done it on occasion, and work hard to make sure I keep it to a minimum.
Note that md has yet to specify what Santorum got right.
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
8:19 pm
“Ron Paul – Delegate Hunter. A new series set to air immediately following Sarah Palin’s outdoor adventure. I wonder what he uses for bait.”
He uses AlexJones / Infowars groupies……… Those guys are big Ron Paul folks. Check out his site for the latest in FEMA camps coming to a neighborhood near you, world elite, and the Illuminati………..
DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
8:21 pm
The Branding Dilemma For Southern Baptists and The Republican party:
Late last year, the Southern Baptist Convention completed an eye-opening study that included this fact: Knowing that a church is Southern Baptist would make four out of 10 Americans less likely to become a member of what is – for now – the nation’s largest Protestant denomination.
In the political world, this is known as unfavorable name recognition. And it’s a killer. Ask Newt Gingrich.
So this week it was no surprise that, for 24 hours, at least, leaders of the denomination considered dropping – after 166 years — one of the most iconic and successful brand names in American culture.
Republicans should pay close attention to this, for the parallels are deep and striking. The strength of both institutions is rooted in the traditional South. Membership in both is aging, white – and slowly declining. Each has problems appealing to minorities. Gender gaps are another common bond.
Finally, over the last several decades, both Southern Baptists and Republicans have created an orthodox set of beliefs to determine who, really and truly, is one of their number.
http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2012/02/22/the-branding-dilemma-for-southern-baptists-and-republicans/?cxntfid=blogs_political_insider_jim_galloway
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2012
8:21 pm
“Note that md has yet to specify what Santorum got right”
What?! “gist” isn’t good enough? You’re tough sell!
St Simons - we're on Island time
February 22nd, 2012
8:22 pm
ok, they’ve got Citizens United, couldn’t they spring for the organ grinder?
Where he at?
I’m with you cons. I’m votin for lil Ricky heehee
DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
8:24 pm
SoCoBro: DDR – I will never look at clowns, lions, or high heels in the same light anymore. Now, I can only hope I don’t have nightmares after reading that
Giving a “Bama” nightmares….well, I guess my work here is done.
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:24 pm
Jay is a “hole digger”
When faced with contravening facts, he just digs deeper
Brosephus™ - "Browning America Since 1973"
February 22nd, 2012
8:26 pm
AmVet
I’ve gotta side with TBS on cougars in heels…
md
I wasn’t quite sold on your argument until your 8:12 post. I could see thr possibility of him retelling something he’s heard before. If I buy that argument, then I’ve gotta question the logic of repeating something without investigating things for accuracy. If memory serves me correct, numerous politicians have gotten caught in that trap.
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2012
8:27 pm
“When faced with contravening facts”
Except he wasn’t.
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:29 pm
Yeah. Bad bad earmarks
Awesome
bman
February 22nd, 2012
8:30 pm
i wish Romney would sock Santorum in the eye
Brosephus™ - "Browning America Since 1973"
February 22nd, 2012
8:30 pm
DDR
Yeah, you messed me up with that one.
md
February 22nd, 2012
8:31 pm
“Note that md has yet to specify what Santorum got right.”
Depends on one’s definition of “right”…..nothing if you are looking for exact wording…..but we both know he didn’t get that part right.
As for what he did get “right”…….the basic premise of the underlying story…….
Were there folks afraid to go to the hospital due to euthanasia….yes.
Did folks have some form of system to have on their person so as not to be involuntarily euthanized…..yes.
Is there data indicating percentages of people were killed involuntarily……yes.
So you are now free to continue with your silly game of he lied, he lied, he lied.
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:31 pm
Santorum doesn’t come across as a crazy
But defending earmarks is bad republican politics
moonbat betty
February 22nd, 2012
8:31 pm
“bman, you should have been around at Luckovich’s when Midori would go toe to toe with Andy, @ @, Dusty, RW and Buy Danish concurrently and all by herself.”
OMG, you must believe in going into a gun fight with a toothpick(s). lol
Santorum will not have a chance.
Anyway, I can’t wait until health care reform kicks in.
Everyone gets coverage and the government decides what treatment granny deserves.
But, at least health care will be efficient and affordable again.
Right?
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:32 pm
Now newt is defending earmarks
Anti romney’s self destructing
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
8:33 pm
“Note that md has yet to specify what Santorum got right.”
Santorum has now proven himself to be unpresidential, in my opinion. I have liked a lot of what he has said – especially saying that most young people who 1) graduate from high school 2) hold a job and 3) have children after they are married do not wind up at the poverty level. That’s social conservatism at it’s best, in my view. Things usually work well if you follow the right path. But he cannot be imposing his (and my) religious views on those who are not religious and he cannot get basic facts wrong. It shows a lack of maturity and judgement.
md
February 22nd, 2012
8:34 pm
“I wasn’t quite sold on your argument until your 8:12 post. I could see thr possibility of him retelling something he’s heard before. If I buy that argument, then I’ve gotta question the logic of repeating something without investigating things for accuracy.”
Please note I never said he was smart…….he should have verified the facts as well……but there are facts that coincide with the story.
josef
February 22nd, 2012
8:36 pm
jm
“Santorum doesn’t come across as a crazy”
Say what? What planet are you on?
DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
8:37 pm
bman: i think Santorum has done well in the last few weeks BECAUSE of no debates. He’s a very awkward looking human being.
He looks like a caricature of what an artist would draw of the class nerd. Everytime I look at him I think, “How the heck did HE get married?” I mean, how desperate was his wife?
Brosephus™ - "Browning America Since 1973"
February 22nd, 2012
8:40 pm
md
Nah, you didn’t give him THAT much credit.
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
8:40 pm
Jm
“But defending earmarks is bad republican politics”
Seeing there aren’t many Repubs, like Dems, who do not take them………. why would he want to hide that fact?
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:41 pm
Newt is committing political malfeasance
Anti US car guys and pro foreign car guys?
Newt. Say no to crack
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
8:42 pm
@DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
7:52 pm
Santorum described the ability to regulate consensual homosexual acts as comparable to the states’ ability to regulate other consensual and non-consensual sexual behavior, such as adultery, polygamy, child molestation, incest, and bestiality
I wonder if Sanitarium is a closet weirdo. I bet he has a thing for clowns dressed like lions who love to jump through hoops in high heels.
AND
@josef
February 22nd, 2012
8:02 pm
DDR
I’ll say this about Santorum, call it my early childhood training, but my radar went up on him the first time I ever watched him speaking thusly. He’s what my mentors told me to watch out for.
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“AS A MAN THINKETH SO IS HE.”
Bruno
February 22nd, 2012
8:43 pm
Looks like all of the Repub candidates are doing well in tonight’s debate. It’s starting to look like the Libs early dismissal of the bunch may be a tad premature……
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
8:43 pm
Here we go………….
Like an earlier post mentioned…… maybe Santorum will take it to the next level and speak in tongues in the next segment of the debate…………
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:43 pm
Both
Wake up. Republicans STOPPED EARMARKS.
U been smoking up with Newt haven’t you?….
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
8:43 pm
“He looks like a caricature of what an artist would draw of the class nerd. Everytime I look at him I think, “How the heck did HE get married?” I mean, how desperate was his wife?”
Pffttt….you are the very first person I have heard suggesting he is ugly or basically unattractive. He is not Brad Pitt, but few men are. I guess you wouldn’t have voted for Lincoln, huh?
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
8:44 pm
@DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
8:37 pm
bman: i think Santorum has done well in the last few weeks BECAUSE of no debates. He’s a very awkward looking human being.
He looks like a caricature of what an artist would draw of the class nerd. Everytime I look at him I think, “How the heck did HE get married?” I mean, how desperate was his wife?
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TOUCHE’
heeheeheehee
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:44 pm
Bruno agreed
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
8:45 pm
“Like an earlier post mentioned…… maybe Santorum will take it to the next level and speak in tongues in the next segment of the debate”
Last I knew, he was Catholic and not Pentacostal.
rivercard
February 22nd, 2012
8:46 pm
I have spent hours searching for evidence of the flood of Dutch patients in German hospitals and the secret dutch doctor death cult. I keep coming up with nada. Must be a Godless Socialist conspiracy in conjunction with Google to keep us in the dark until Obama can get those death panels up and running.
Let’s assume there are a few paranoids in Netherlands that are afraid their Doc just can’t wait to send them on their way. No surprise. Everywhere has their share of nuts. Probably related to the ones over here with their equally absurd fears and projections.
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
8:47 pm
@They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
8:43 pm
Here we go………….
Like an earlier post mentioned…… maybe Santorum will take it to the next level and speak in tongues in the next segment of the debate…………
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If he does we will need to perform an EXORCISM.
DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
8:47 pm
Ron Paul – Delegate Hunter
Coming this fall on Fox……….
He’s tough, he’s sexy, he’s the answer to every woman’s prayers…He’s Ron Paul! Fighting corporate malfesance while throwing granny from the train!!
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Also new on Fox coming this fall, a brand new hero, a man whose very name means, “Sex” and “Virility” — it’s Rick Sanitarium!! He’s just too sexy for this promo!!!
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Tonight on Fox – The Perils of Pauline! Starring Callista Gingrich as Pauline. See Callista hold on for dear life to Newt’s extra tire around his waist while he decides whether to dump her for an equally rich, and even more psuedo attractive wife!! See Callista jump to new heights as she suppresses her shudder and kisses fatboy in public!! See Callista’s hair actually MOVE when the wind blows!!
Don’t miss the new Fox lineup for the fall!!!
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:47 pm
Santorum would be a decent foe in debates against Obama
Problem is, his very socially conservative statements would be used to hang him by the Obama team
(of note, santorum is white. Hanging is not a reference to a racial lynching. Also, the post brought to you by campbell’s tasty tomato soup)
moonbat betty
February 22nd, 2012
8:47 pm
Is Obama still hiding in the closet?
Midori
February 22nd, 2012
8:48 pm
“bman, you should have been around at Luckovich’s when Midori would go toe to toe with Andy, @ @, Dusty, RW and Buy Danish concurrently and all by herself.”
OMG, you must believe in going into a gun fight with a toothpick(s). lol
thanks for the compliment, and for bringing out the fourth toothpick.
moonbat betty
February 22nd, 2012
8:49 pm
Obama will probably come out sporting a “faux hawk” at his first debate this year.
You know, just to connect and be cool…
bman
February 22nd, 2012
8:50 pm
debbiedocook .. .. have you seen his high school picture?
Aquagirl
February 22nd, 2012
8:50 pm
No surprise. Everywhere has their share of nuts. Probably related to the ones over here with their equally absurd fears and projections.
Oh, god, don’t tell me they have Faux News over there too.
Midori
February 22nd, 2012
8:51 pm
I have spent hours searching for evidence of the flood of Dutch patients in German hospitals and the secret dutch doctor death cult.
silly rivercard!!
they were trumped by that flood of Canadians coming to the US for much needed and denied health care.
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:51 pm
Santorum is against children out of wedlock
So….. Then get rid of birth control?
Rick, please exit the house of mirrors
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
8:51 pm
Jm
So there are no Republican earmarks in the House or Senate?
Really?
moonbat betty
February 22nd, 2012
8:51 pm
Sure thing, i-r-o-dim.
I enjoyed watching your sophomoric meltdowns back in the day
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
8:52 pm
Jm
“Problem is, his very socially conservative statements would be used to hang him by the Obama team”
You want have to worry about the Obama team. People that classify themselves as moderates and independents will do the killing on voting day
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
8:53 pm
I am watching these idiots debate……..
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity).
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:53 pm
Both
Prove there are earmarks republicans voted for in the last 12 months or just shut up
DebbieDoRight
February 22nd, 2012
8:53 pm
oops thanks Repub — I missed ths one!
josef: I’ll say this about Santorum, call it my early childhood training, but my radar went up on him the first time I ever watched him speaking thusly. He’s what my mentors told me to watch out for
Uh huh. Remember that LOGO documentary I was telling you about, (Closeted Republicans)? He fits the profile PERFECTLY.
Doggone/GA
February 22nd, 2012
8:53 pm
“So….. Then get rid of birth control?”
No, no…you’re forgetting the sex police that will make sure that unmarried people never have sex.
Midori
February 22nd, 2012
8:53 pm
as did I, bat t-i-h-s
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
8:53 pm
“If he does we will need to perform an EXORCISM.”
Where is Linda Blair and the dude who played the Priest when we need them?
md
February 22nd, 2012
8:54 pm
Here rivercard….since you must have missed it earlier:
http://jme.bmj.com/content/25/1/16.full.pdf+html?sid=26248333-079c-4ade-a0b9-1a3872758d05
Then start googling off the information in that report and it is amazing what one can learn……
Towncrier
February 22nd, 2012
8:54 pm
“Coming this fall on Fox………”
Speaking of networks, I must admit I like a few of the NBC shows like The Voice. And I will still watch their news programs (especially Meet the Press) in spite of their looney liberal leanings (even Chris Matthews say some amazingly sane things at times – like the time to exercise “choice” is before conception, not afterwards).
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
8:56 pm
Santorum mention the author Charles Murray.
Charles Murray Examines the White Working Class in ‘Coming Apart’
This is what he said in his book:
“Illegitimacy, crime, joblessness — these are not merely the much debated pathologies of a black underclass, Murray finds. They are white people problems too.”
SANTORUM DID NOT MENTION THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE.
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
8:56 pm
Jm
F you…. You dont tell me to shut up…
Go look up cry baby Lamar Alexander and his crying about Obama wanting earmarks banned
Apologize JB for that outburst at the punk a$$ hiding behind a type writer
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:57 pm
Well everyone is in favor of 2 parent households
So get rid of the marriage penalty…..
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
8:57 pm
Republicans……………………take back your party.
These candidates are self serving.
They don’t give a rats behind about you.
rivercard
February 22nd, 2012
8:58 pm
“they were trumped by that flood of Canadians coming to the US for much needed and denied health care.”
Yes, Midori , I called for an appointment the other day and was told minimum of two months due to snowbird influx. Because, otherwise you would NEVER have to wait for anything here in freedom land.
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
8:58 pm
Jm
What were you saying boy?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/26/republicans-defense-spending-earmarks-mckaskill_n_867769.html
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
8:59 pm
Ron Paul would dynamite the federal government
Would be interesting
Both- bring a link. Anytime pal. In the meantime, use your pie whole to converse with someone else
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
9:00 pm
The author Charles Murray that Santorum quoted also said:
Using a statistical construct he calls Fishtown — inspired by an actual white, blue-collar neighborhood of the same name in Philadelphia — Murray sorts through demographic data to present a startling picture. Women in Fishtown now routinely have children outside of marriage. Less than a third of its children grow up in households that include both biological parents. The men claim physical disability at astounding rates and are less likely to hold down jobs than in the past.
Churchgoing among the white working class has declined, eroding the social capital that organized religion once provided.
moonbat betty
February 22nd, 2012
9:01 pm
midori, certainly you have a faux hawk, hairdo?
It’s part of the liberal dress code.
Erwin's cat
February 22nd, 2012
9:01 pm
We are just lillies of the valley…..
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
9:02 pm
Both
A democrat accuses republicans o f earmarks in defense without any specifics
Try harder
Midori
February 22nd, 2012
9:02 pm
opposed to your Phyllis Diller do?
kayaker 71
February 22nd, 2012
9:02 pm
And while we are participating in any sexual act that a closed door bedroom can conceive…… and we are not so enamored with Mr. Santorum, lets shift the focus from the really important things to those that bring up emotion, light us afire, bring us to the brink….. those crazy Catholics, like Santorum, those Jesus freaks who want to dictate what we can do with out “bodies”. Meanwhile, we are losing our Republic. Government is taking over. I really don’t care if Santorum believes that the Devil is the main source of America’s problems. I really don’t think that mainstream America gives a damn either. They just want to go back to work., they want to keep their home and participate in the American dream. whatever that has turned into. They want to send their kids to college, have some sort of retirement that allows them to enjoy their older years. the America that they remember is all but gone. And it was a good America, despite some warts. And it could be good again but not with Bozo and what he has in mind for this country. Santorum represents what a secular America fears most….. a truly dedicated Christian who wants to bring this country back to what it once was. What’s wrong with that? FDR was a dedicated Christian. So was Truman, Carter ,Reagan, Nixon, JFK, both Bushes…. so what’s the big deal with Santorum?
Midori
February 22nd, 2012
9:02 pm
FANG!!!!!
Republicans Speak Up And Take Your Party Back From The Lunatic Fringe (If you have the integrity)
February 22nd, 2012
9:03 pm
SANTORUM AND ROMNEY
POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK ON HEALTHCARE.
heeheeheeheeheehee
Jm
February 22nd, 2012
9:03 pm
Silly healthcare debate
Too far into the weeds
Dubious string of Romney logic there
They BOTH suck
February 22nd, 2012
9:04 pm
Senate Republican leaders are taking heat for millions of dollars worth of earmarks they requested in a $1.1 trillion spending package on deck for passage this month.
GOP Policy Committee Chairman John Thune (S.D.) and National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn (Texas) convened a Wednesday morning press conference to criticize Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) for trying to speed the package through the Senate before Christmas.
Senate Republican leaders are taking heat for millions of dollars worth of earmarks they requested in a $1.1 trillion spending package on deck for passage this month.
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/133777-senate-gop-leaders-take-heat-over-earmarks